WE WILL WELCOME TO THE REGULAR MEETING THE CAPE CORAL CITY COUNCIL TODAY IS NOVEMBER 3RD. TWENTY TWENTY ONE THIS MEETING NOW COMES TO ORDER. TODAY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A TRIBUTE TO THE VETERANS ALSO DURING THE PRESENTATION. WE HAVE MANY VETERANS WHO ARE EMPLOYED HERE AT THE CITY OF CAPE CORAL AND WE WILL BE RECOGNIZING THEM AS WELL IN THE VIDEO TO ALL THE VETERANS HERE TODAY, I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE AND YOUR SACRIFICE TO OUR COUNTRY WHILE VETERANS DAY OBSERVED ON NOVEMBER 11TH. BEFORE WE START TODAY'S CITY COUNCIL MEETING, WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO RECOGNIZE THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO SERVED OUR NATION. PLEASE STAND FOR A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOR THOSE THAT HAVE GIVEN THEIR LIFE TO OUR COUNTRY . THANK YOU. PLEASE BE SEATED. WE WILL NOW PLAY A VIDEO PRESENTING AND THE HONOR VETERANS DAY AND IN EACH BRANCH OF THE MILITARY WILL BE HONORING OUR SONG. IF YOU'RE A VETERAN WE ASK THAT YOU STAND DURING THE PLAYING OF YOUR SONG TO BE RECOGNIZED. >> PLEASE PLAY THE VIDEO FOR THANK YOU FOR HONORING OUR VETERANS TODAY AND SHOWING YOUR SUPPORT IF YOU'RE A VETERAN PLEASE ONE MORE TIME STAND. THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE. NOW WE ASK THAT EVERYONE TO STAND FOR THE SINGING OF THE NATIONAL ANTHEM TO BE PERFORMED BY BAILEY MCARTHUR, A SENIOR AT OASIS HIGH SCHOOL. OH SAY CAN YOU SEE BY THE DAWN'S EARLY LIGHT WAS SO PROUD WE HELD AT THE TWILIGHT'S LAST GLEAMING WHOSE BROAD STRIPES AND BRIGHT STARS THROUGH THE PERILOUS FIGHT OVER THE BATTLE WITH WATCHED WERE SOAKING GENTLY STREAMING BURSTING GAVE PROOF THROUGH THE NIGHT THAT SZERLAG WOULD STILL MISS OH SAY DOES THAT STAR SPANGLED YET LIVED OR THE HOME. THANK YOU BALIAN. AND IF YOU WOULD PLEASE CONTINUE TO STAND FOR THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. MADAM CITY CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL. YES YOUR HONOR. BEFORE I CALL THE ROLL I WOULD LIKE TO ANNOUNCE THAT COUNCIL MEMBER WELSCH HAS ASKED TO BE EXCUSED AND I WILL MARK HIMSELF MAYOR GUNTUR HERE COUNCIL MEMBERS COSDEN HERE. HADYN HERE. YEAH NELSON HERE APPART HERE. TAITE SEVEN PRESENT ONE EXCUSED . THANK YOU. BEFORE WE MOVE FORWARD I LIKE TO PASS THE GAVEL. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TODAY I LOOK BACK AT COUNCIL MEMBER WELSH'S ATTENDANCE RECORDS AND I THINK ONE OF THE RESPONSIBILITIES THAT WE HAVE AS A COUNCIL IS TO PARTICIPATE IN OUR COUNCIL MEETINGS THAT ARE REQUIRED BY EACH ONE OF US . IT'S LISTED IN OUR COUNCIL RULES OF PROCEDURE. BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY I THINK WE OWE THAT TO OUR CONSTITUENTS THAT VOTED FOR US TO BE HERE ON THEIR BEHALF. AND WHEN I LOOK AT THE ATTENDANCE RECORDS OF COUNCIL MEMBER WELSCH, HE MISSED THE MEETING BACK ON AUGUST THE 10TH . HE MISSED THE MEETING BACK ON AUGUST 18TH. HE MISSED THE MEETING ON SEPTEMBER TWENTY THIRD. HE MISSED THE MEETING ON SEPTEMBER TWENTY NINTH AND AGAIN HE MISSES A MEETING HERE AGAIN TODAY. SO I FEEL THAT WE HAVE A RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE WERE PRESENT DURING THESE MEETINGS SO THEREFORE I MAKE A MOTION THAT WE HOLD COUNCIL MEMBER WELSH'S ABSENCE TODAY UNEXCUSED SO AM LOOKING FOR A SECOND FOR THAT MOTION I'LL SECOND IT FOR DISCUSSION. >> UM COUNCIL MEMBER NELSON. THANK YOU MAYOR. MY QUESTION IS DO WE KNOW LIKE I SOME OF US HAVE MISSED MEETINGS BECAUSE OF FAMILY ISSUES DOES SICKNESS MOST OF US THAT HAVE HAD TO DO THAT THOUGH ESPECIALLY WITH COVID DID PARTICIPATE REMOTELY EVERY CHANCE WE COULD. I KNOW FOR MYSELF HAVING TO GO TO A CONFERENCE LAST YEAR FOR OUR EARLIER THIS YEAR FOR MY NEW JOB WHICH I'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO DO AGAIN NEXT FEBRUARY I WAS STILL ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE MEETING REMOTELY. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW, FOR THE PUBLIC'S PURPOSES THAT THEY UNDERSTAND THE NATURE OF THESE ABSENCES BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE I KNOW ALL OF THEM. I THINK I KNOW SOME OF THEM. I KNOW THIS THIS PARTICULAR ABSENCE WAS MORE A VACATION BUT I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS THAT WE DO MAKE CONCESSIONS, YOU KNOW, WHEN THERE'S WHEN THERE ARE SPECIAL THINGS SO MAYBE IF YOU COULD CLARIFY, MAYOR, WHY THIS IS DIFFERENT THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL. THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER TATE. I BELIEVE THIS WAS A VACATION. THAT'S RIGHT. YEAH. AND I THINK THERE WERE THREE THAT WERE VACATIONS IF I'M NOT MISTAKEN. >> OK, SO I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT I THINK LIKE BECAUSE I KNOW LIKE I SAID, WE MAKE SPECIAL CONCESSIONS FOR THOSE OF US THAT HAVE WORK RELEGATIONS BUT BUT I WILL SAY THAT WE'RE ALL PRETTY GOOD ABOUT CALLING IN AND PARTICIPATING REMOTELY. I MEAN AND I WILL SAY THAT THANK YOU MAYOR. >> AND I THINK IF WE CAN ATTEND PHYSICALLY I THINK THAT THE WITH TODAY'S TECHNOLOGY AND WHAT WE'VE DONE HERE ESPECIALLY WITH THE PANDEMIC AND COVID WE COULD PARTICIPATE REMOTELY. I CAN SAY THAT I I'VE BEEN HERE FOR YEARS. I THINK I PARTICIPATED REMOTELY ONCE AND HAVEN'T MISSED ANY OTHER MEETINGS IN THAT FOUR YEAR PERIOD OF TIME. I'M NOT SAYING THAT THINGS DON'T COME UP. THERE'S NOT FAMILY EMERGENCIES ,THERE'S NOT SICKNESSES BUT AM I OPINION COUNCIL MEMBER WALSH HAS ONLY BEEN HERE FOR A SHORT PERIOD OF TIME AND IF YOU LOOK AT HIS TRACK RECORD AND THE REASONS FOR THOSE ABSENCES, TO ME IT'S GETTING TO BE MORE THAN WHAT I THINK THE EXPECTATION SHOULD BE FOR FOR THIS COUNCIL . SO THAT'S WHY I BROUGHT IT FORWARD. I DIDN'T HEAR A SECOND SECOND. OK, COUNCIL MEMBER HANAN YEAH. MAYOR JUST TO MAKE SURE AND THESE ARE ALL MEETINGS THAT HE WAS PHYSICALLY NOT AT NONE OF THESE WERE DONE OVER OR TEAMS OR WHATEVER. CORRECT. AND I GOT THIS INFORMATION FROM CITY COURT TODAY SO I WILL ASK HER IN JUST A MOMENT. I'LL PULL UP THE RESEARCH THAT I CAN DO IN THE MEANTIME, UH, MISS CITY ATTORNEY BECAUSE HE ASKED TO BE EXCUSED. CAN WE SIT WITHIN OUR PURVIEW TO CHANGE THAT TO UNEXCUSED ABSENCES PURSUANT TO THE COUNCIL RULES? ABSENCES ARE PRESUMED EXCUSED AND OUR UNEXCUSED ONLY BY A MOTION TO HOLD THE ABSENCE UNEXCUSED AND A MAJORITY VOTE IN FAVOR OF THAT MOTION. SUCH MOTION AND VOTE MUST OCCUR NO LATER THAN THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED COUNCIL MEETING AFTER THE DATE ABSENT. SO IF YOU DID NOT WANT TO TAKE THIS UP TODAY OR YOU WANTED TO TAKE IT UP AT A MEETING AT AT THE NEXT REGULARLY SCHEDULED MEETING AND COUNCIL MEMBER WELSCH MIGHT BE THERE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE DISCUSSION, YOU WOULD HAVE THE OPTION OF DOING THAT. >> OK, OK, SEE YOU. >> NO OTHER DISCUSSION. THERE'S A MOTION AND I'M SORRY MADAM CITY CLERK SO YOUR HONOR AND COUNSEL IN THE RESEARCH I CONDUCTED IT SHOWS THAT THE AUGUST 17TH WAS A JOINT WORKSHOP THE AUGUST EIGHTEENTH WAS A REGULAR THE SEPTEMBER TWENTY THIRD WAS A SPECIAL AND THE SEPTEMBER TWENTY NINTH WAS A SPECIAL. SO THOSE THREE OF THOSE WERE ADDED MEETINGS BUT HE DID NOT PARTICIPATE IN ANY OF THOSE MEETINGS IN ANY FORM. I DON'T SEE OF UH REMOTE PRODUCTION. THERE'S A MOTION IN THE SECOND COUNCIL NO LONGER I'M CITY ATTORNEY. CAN YOU PLEASE EXPLAIN WHAT WHAT IS THE RESULT OF AN UNEXCUSED ABSENCES? >> MY MADAM CITY ATTORNEY PURSUANT TO THE CHARTER, IF A MEMBER HAS THREE CONSECUTIVE UNEXCUSED ABSENCES FROM REGULAR MEETINGS THEN TECHNICALLY THAT SUBJECTS THEM TO POTENTIAL FORFEITURE OF THEIR OFFICE. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? CNN WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND FLOOR. MADAM CITY CLERK PLEASE CALL THE GUNTA I GUESS I NO NO NELSON I SHEPHERD I TAKE COSDEN I SIX EYES ONE MOTION CARRIED OK NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS CHANGES TO THE AGENDA. I DO HAVE TO THAT I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION FIRST ON THE CONSENT AGENDA ITEM WHICH IS RESOLUTION TWO FORTY THREE DASH TWENTY ONE HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN FROM TONIGHT'S AGENDA BY THE CITY MANAGER. MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THIS WILL BE COMING BACK AT A LATER DATE . NO MR. MAYOR I'D LIKE TO LEAVE I'M SORRY WE'VE PROPOSED AN AMENDMENT TO THIS ITEM THAT WOULD REMOVE ANY REFERENCES TO A BOAT DOCK SO YOU CAN CHOOSE TO LEAVE IT ON THE AGENDA AS AMENDED OR WITHDRAW IT AND BRING IT BACK LATER. OK, ALL RIGHT. SO YOU'RE ASKING THAT WE MOVE FORWARD WITH IT THEN WITH THE AMENDMENT WITH THE AMENDMENTS AS PREPARED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE? YES, SIR. OK THEN IF WE WANT TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THAT THEN WE CAN ALWAYS PULL THAT ITEM. YES, SIR. OK, ALL RIGHT. AND SO WE WILL CANCEL THAT AGENDA CHANGE MR. CITY MANAGER MINDER'S ANING AS YOU'VE REQUESTED TO REMOVE ITEM TEN B FOR ORDINANCE NINETY FIVE DASH TWENTY ONE WHICH IS THE PUD DASH ZERO ZERO HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN BY THE APPLICANT IS THAT CORRECT. YES MR MAYOR THAT IS CORRECT. OK SO WE'LL REMOVE THAT PARTICULAR ITEM ONLY FROM THE TONIGHT'S AGENDA AND DO I HAVE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE REMAINING MR MAYOR I MAKE A MOTION TO ADOPT THE AGENDA AS PRESENTED AND IF SOMEONE DOESN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE WITH THAT I WANTED TO ADD TO MY MOTION TO ADD THE LANGUAGE THAT WAS GIVEN TO US AS IT RELATES TO THE FOUNDERS PARK WHICH I THAT IS THE BECAUSE BASICALLY THAT REMOVES THE BOTOX AND IT CONTINUES THE BEAUTIFICATION PROJECT AT THE PARK THE SECOND MADAM CITY ATTORNEY, THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY THAT AT YESTERDAY'S HEARING MEETING THE BOARD SELECTED THE CONCEPT PLAN THAT IT WANTED TO PURSUE BUT A CONCEPT PLAN STILL HAD THE BOTOX IN IT SO THAT HAS BEEN MADE AN EXHIBIT TO THE RESOLUTION THAT YOU HAVE BEFORE YOU TODAY BUT IT'S STILL REFLECTING BOTOX. SO I WOULD RECOMMEND THAT WHEN YOU GET TO THE ACTUAL CONSENT AGENDA THAT THAT ITEM BE PULLED AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO APPROVE THAT RESOLUTION RESOLUTION AND REMOVE THAT RESOLUTION 550 TO THREE I'M SORRY RESOLUTION TO FIVE TO FORTY THREE DASH TWENTY ONE THAT THE COUNCIL JUST BE CLEAR THAT WHILE YOU'RE APPROVING YOU'RE APPROVING IT WITH NO REFERENCE AT ALL TO THE TO ANY OF THE DOCS BECAUSE IT'S THAT CONCEPT PLAN HAS NOW BEEN ATTACHED AS EXHIBIT A TO THE RESOLUTION BUT IT STILL REFLECTS THE DOCS AND I THINK THAT'S WHAT I SAID. RIGHT OK OK WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND ON THE FLOOR MADAM BECAUSE YOU'VE GOT THE ROLL PLEASE. >> YES, YOUR HONOR. BEFORE I CALL THE ROLL CAN I CLARIFY THAT THE MOTION ON THE FLOOR IS TO APPROVE THE AGENDA AS PRESENTED AND STAFF HAD ASKED YOU TO REMOVE THE TWO ITEMS OR IS THE WE'RE REMOVING THE ONE ITEM ORDINANCE NINETY FIVE DOLLARS TWENTY ONE LEAVING THE OTHER ONE ON THE FORTY THREE ONE IS AS PRESENTED REMOVING THE DOG WITH THE INFORMATION THAT WAS PRESENTED TO COUNCIL AND REMOVING COMPLETELY THE INTRODUCTION FOR TENBY FOR THE SECOND AGREES. >> YES BEFORE WE CALL THE ROLL COUNCIL MEMBER COSDEN THANK YOU MAYOR IS NOW JUST PROCEDURALLY NOW THE APPROPRIATE TIME TO BRING UP THE AMENDMENT OR DO WE DO THAT WHEN WE BRING IT OUT THE CONSENT AGENDA? I DON'T THINK IT NEEDS TO BE PART OF THIS MOTION. TALKING ABOUT THE FOUNDERS PARK. YES, I WOULD THINK THAT WE'RE JUST APPROVING THE AGENDA AND IF I'M LEAVING IT THERE AND THEN WE CAN PULL BACK AND TALK ABOUT AND THEN HAVE THAT DISCUSSION AT THE RIGHT SO IT'S NOT PART OF THE MOTION AS DOES A SECOND DEGREE. YEAH, OK, YES. ALL RIGHT. MADAM CITY CLERK, PLEASE CALL GUNTER HEYDEN LONG NELSON SHEPHERD I HI COSDEN I SET A NICE MOTION CARRIED OK HOW'S ITEM SEVEN APPROVAL MINUTES. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE MINUTES FROM THE REGULAR MEETING OF OCTOBER 20TH? >> TWENTY TWENTY ONE TECHNICAL ANY DISCUSSION AND I'M CITY CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROAD GUNTA I HATED LORD NELSON I SHEPHERD T I COSDEN I SEVEN EYES MOTION CARRIED OK ITEM EIGHT IS CITIZENS INPUT TIME A MAXIMUM OF 60 MINUTES IS SET FOR INPUT OF CITIZENS ON MATTERS CONCERNING CITY GOVERNMENT THREE MINUTES PER INDIVIDUAL PLEASE REMEMBER TO STATE YOUR NAME FOR THE RECORD ANYONE WISHING TO PARTICIPATE IN CITIZENS INPUT ASK TO USE THE PODIUM TO THE LEFT ONLY HAD ONE SHOT MAYOR BE CAREFUL. OH GOOD AFTERNOON MAYOR COUNCIL LOU NOVARA WITH OVER FORTY YEAR RESIDENT OF THE CAPE VETERAN THIRTY EIGHT YEARS TEACHER HERE RETIRED IN THE DISTRICT TO MY FORMER VOTERS WHO VOTED FOR ME IN DISTRICT FOUR SCHOOL BOARD RACE WHICH WAS DERAILED BY THAT FALSE ARREST AND TO THE THIRTY THREE THOUSAND VOTERS WHO VOTED FOR ME TO IN DISTRICT FIVE THAT I NARROWLY LOST LAST YEAR. I'M REPORTING MY SUPPORT FOR THE HALF PERCENT SALES TAX FOR CAPE CHARTER SCHOOL. THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING LAST NIGHT I HAVE I HAVE I WANT TO MAKE FOLLOWING COMMENTS. OK, IF I WAS THE SCHOOL BOARD CHAIR AND HAD BEEN ELECTED LIKE I GOT DERAILED THIS WOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED. THAT'S WHAT I WANT TO SAY. THE MAYOR AND HIS ENTOURAGE WERE EXCELLENT. THEY TOLD THE TRUTH. DAVID JORDAN, DISTRICT FOUR SOLD ALL OF THIS OUT. I WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT SHE WILL SPEAK UP FOR CHARTER SCHOOLS FOR THE CAPE. SHAME ON HER AND THE REFUSAL OF THE HALF A CENT TAX. SHE IS OUT OF ORDER LAST NIGHT WITH THE VOTE BECAUSE WE HAD WITH MY RESEARCH WHICH I'LL GIVE YOU PRETTY QUICKLY WE HAD GWEN GETTINGS AND OUR CAPE REPRESENTATIVE MARY FISHER WANT TO HOLD EVERYTHING UP FOR MORE STUDY BECAUSE NO ONE WAS CONSULTED SO SHE'S OUT OF ORDER ACCORDING TO MY ROBERT'S RULES AND I'M FILING A COMPLAINT AND HAVE THAT MEETING REDONE PROPER . YOU DON'T COERCE TO BOARD MEMBERS INTO VOTING AND I WILL FILE THAT TOMORROW. I'VE SPOKEN WITH THE SUPERINTENDENTS EXECUTIVE SECRETARY. THE FACTS SHOW RIGHT HERE THAT'S A REGRESSIVE HALF A CENT. >> BUT HERE'S THE DEAL ON YOUR NUMBERS. YOU'RE PAYING ONE PERCENT THE STATE AND DEBBIE, FINALLY AT LEAST SHE GAVE ME THAT. >> SO YOU'RE PAYING EVEN MORE. THERE'S PLENTY OF MONEY AND WITH INFLATION NOW THEY'RE THEY'RE GETTING A WINDFALL BECAUSE GO TO THE GROCERY STORE . SO I'VE GOT THE REVENUE SHEET AND THEY KNOW IT. CHRIS PATRIQUE, SHE WASN'T TELLING THE TRUTH. NO, PEOPLE WERE NEVER CONSULTED FROM THE CAPE AND I TOLD HER DON'T SAY LET REST IN PEACE. THE MAYOR BECAUSE HE PASSED AWAY A TOWN HALL MEETINGS. I WENT TO THEM. I REALLY DIDN'T LIKE THE TAX ANYWAY BUT I WENT TO THEM. NOTHING WAS EVER MENTIONED BY THE BOARD. PATRIQUE MR TOIBA OK SO I HAVE COMPLAINED ABOUT THAT AND SHE WANTS YOU TO PRIVATIZE TO SAVE MONEY BUT I'LL MAKE IT QUICK. WE WE SENT THEM A BUNCH OF STUFF MARVIN AND I GET TO PRIVATIZE AND THEY THREW IT IN THE GARBAGE AND THEY KNOW THAT . WRAP IT UP MR BARRON. OH ALL RIGHT. >> I'LL BE WORKING ON THIS CONTACTING DUVALL AND SARASOTA AND I DON'T LIKE THE GRANDFATHER CLAUSE THAT THEY'RE USING. THE GOVERNOR HEARS ABOUT IT. >> HE'S NOT GOING TO BE VERY HAPPY AND THE TEACHERS ARE CELSI I WAS A MEMBER. I DON'T APPROVE OF WHAT THEY'RE DOING. IT COMES OUT OF THEIR PLAYBOOK . THANK YOU. SORRY IT TOOK SO LONG. THANK YOU, SIR AND THANKS FOR BEING GENEROUS. THEY WOULD HAVE THROWN ME OUT AT THE SCHOOL DISTRICT LAST NIGHT. I HAD TO BE THE LAST ONE AND THEY FORGOT TO CALL ME. THANK YOU FOR YOUR PATIENCE. OK, MY NAME IS STEVE FABIAN. I'M A NORTHWEST CAPE RESIDENT. I PURCHASED A HOME ABOUT TWELVE YEARS AGO A NEW HOME AND I'M A RETIRED ACCOUNTING PROFESSOR WHO WHO'S VERY HAPPY WITH THE LIVING HERE. BUT I THINK THERE'S AN ISSUE MAINLY STEMS FROM THE POPULATION GROWTH AND IT'S A REALLY A PANDEMIC NOT TALKING ABOUT A A VIRUS PANDEMIC BUT IT'S THE IDEA OF I WAS GOING TO SEEM SILLY BUT LOOSE DOGS YOU CAN'T RIDE A BIKE THE WHOLE BIKE LANE THAT THEY'RE BUILDING ON AND YOU KNOW, I'M VETERANS NORTH OF THAILAND. YOU KNOW YOU CAN'T EVEN RIDE YOUR BIKE ON A DAILY BASIS WITHOUT HAVING SOMEBODY WHO THINKS IT'S GLAMOROUS OR PRESTIGIOUS OR ADOLESCENT OR WHATEVER YOU WANT TO CALL IT ALL AGE GROUPS HAVE THEIR DOG LOOSE AND THIS IS LIKE IT'S A SERIOUS ISSUE BECAUSE THAT IS THE MAIN ISSUE ABOUT WHAT ANIMAL WILL HURT YOU. I'VE HAD DOGS ALL MY LIFE BUT I WILL NEVER BE THAT INCONSIDERATE THAT I THINK IT'S YOU KNOW, IT'S TRENDY OR SOMETHING TO HAVE YOUR DOG LOOSE. I'VE BEEN ATTACKED SO MANY TIMES WALKING ON A BIKE I'VE ACTUALLY BEEN ATTACKED IN MY HOUSE STANDING ON MY DECK IN THE BACK HAVING A LOOSE ANIMAL ,A LOOSE DOG, A LARGE DOG QUITE A FEW TIMES DIFFERENT DOGS TRY TO BREAK THROUGH TO SCREAM, TO ATTACK. YOU KNOW, I LIKE TO KNOW WHAT CAN BE DONE. MAYBE SOME SIGNS CAN BE INCORPORATE IN THE BUDGET ESPECIALLY ON THE BIKE PATH AT THE BUILDING. YOU KNOW THAT THAT THEY'RE BUILDING IT TO SAY HOW SERIOUS THE TOWNSHIP IS ABOUT ENFORCING THAT THIS THIS LOOSE DOG DOG WITHOUT A LEASH KIND OF STUFF. PEOPLE WALKING AROUND WITH 20 FOOT ISSUES ARE 30 FOOT LEASHES SO YOU CAN'T EVEN WALK BY THEN NEVER MIND BEING A BICYCLE. AND IT'S NOT JUST THE BICYCLE. I MEAN YOU REALLY FEEL UNSAFE AND I HAD DOGS ALL MY LIFE THAT BIG DOGS OF DOBERMANS HAVE ALL KINDS OF DOGS AND MY DOG LOVING PERSON. BUT I THINK THIS IS REALLY OUT THERE WHERE THE BUSSES DON'T RUN. IT REALLY IS A SERIOUS ISSUE AND I DON'T THINK ANIMAL CONTROL IS STAFFED ENOUGH TO REALLY HANDLE THIS WHOLE ISSUE . THERE HAS TO BE A REAL SERIOUS TONE EXPRESSED MAYBE IN THE BUDGET MAYBE THEY CAN INCORPORATE SOME SIGNS IN THE BUDGET EVERY SO OFTEN TO SHOW RESIDENTS THAT WE ARE SERIOUS ABOUT THIS AND WALKING AROUND WITH YOUR DOG LOOSE IS NOT SOMETHING THAT THAT THAT SHOULD BE YOU KNOW, DONE SEEN ON A REGULAR BASIS. I MEAN, YOU KNOW, IT'S USUALLY A HINT THAT THAT YOU'VE GOT A CITY THAT'S GOING DOWNHILL WHEN YOU SEE LOOSE MANGY DOGS RUNNING AROUND LOOSE. SO AND THIS IS WHAT WE THIS IS A REAL SERIOUS PROBLEM WHEN YOU CAN'T CAN'T FEEL SAFE BECAUSE OF THIS ISSUE BECAUSE IT'S PRESTIGIOUS OR WHATEVER TO HAVE YOUR DOG LOOSE. I'M FREE. I'M DOWN HERE IN FLORIDA. I'M FREE SO MY DOG CAN BE FREE . I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE MENTALITY IS. YOU KNOW, LIKE I SAID, I'M A RETIRED TEACHER SO I THINK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE MENTALITY BUT I HOPE HOPE THAT THE TOWN COUNCIL HOPE ISN'T LIKE ONE HAND CLAPPING WHERE NOTHING CAN BE DONE. I HOPE YOU CAN DO SOMETHING MAYBE SOMEBODY CAN CAN START SOMETHING TO PUT SIGNS UP SOMETHING EVERY SO OFTEN JUST TO LET PEOPLE KNOW WE'RE SERIOUS HERE AND IT'S AN ISSUE. IT REALLY IS. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK TO ONE CITIZEN? >> YES, MA'AM. GOOD EVENING, EVERYBODY. IN THIS SMART APPALACHIA'S I HAVE A BOMB ON YOUR HEAD AND I NEED SUPPORT FROM YOU BECAUSE I JUST WENT TO THE BUILDING DEPARTMENT ASKING FOR HELP BECAUSE I HAVE A CONDO THE BUILDING WAS MADE IN NINETEEN SEVENTY NINE AND HE HAS A CRACKS ON THE CEILING, A LOT OF CRACKS AND THE SECOND FLOOR A CRACKS AND THE POOL HAS CRACKS IN THIS EMPTY WATER. I ASSOCIATION FEAR THE ASSOCIATION DOESN'T DO ANYTHING FOR MONTHS FOR YEARS AND THAT'S GETTING WORSE. THE BUILDING IS GETTING WORSE AFRAID ABOUT THE COLLAPSE IN I DON'T WANT TO HAPPEN AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE TO GO. WE HAVE TO ASK FOR SUPPORT HERE . THE OFFICE IN THE CITY I MEAN IN THIS BUILDING IN THE DEPARTMENT SAY TO COME TONIGHT AND THIS IS MY CASE AND I'M ASKING YOU GUYS FOR SUPPORT WAS WHAT WE HAD TO DO NEXT IN THE SITUATION. THANK YOU. OK. HAVE A SEAT. I'M SURE WILL ADDRESS YOUR CONCERN. OK, THANK YOU BRUCE MARVIN 17 YEAR OF CAPE CORAL. THIRTEEN YEARS IN THE UNITED STATES AIR FORCE NEXT YEAR YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO INCLUDE A SPACE COMMAND BECAUSE I'M SURE WE'RE GOING TO HAVE SOME VETERANS FROM THE SPACE COMMAND ANYWAY I'D LIKE TO EXPRESS MY THANKS FOR CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THE WORK THAT YOU DO TO KEEP THIS CITY GOING AND ESPECIALLY TO THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT RESPOND TO MY EMAILS. >> I'M REALLY CONCERNED WITH LEGISLATION THAT'S COMING FROM TALLAHASSEE ON THE HOME BASED BUSINESSES AND ALSO FLORIDA SENATE BILL 60 ON CODE REPORTING CODE VIOLATIONS BY CITIZENS. I WANT TO MAKE IT CLEAR THAT I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THE EXPANSION OF WHAT CAN BE CONSIDERED A HOME BASED BUSINESS. THE ISSUE I HAVE IS ALLOWING COMMERCIAL SIGNS AND RESIDENTIAL AA1 PROPERTY BEYOND THOSE RELATING TO THE SALE OF THE PROPERTY OR TEMPORARY COMMERCIAL SIGNAGE DURING CONSTRUCTION, REMODELING ETC. AT ISSUE AS ORDINANCE SIXTY NINE TWENTY ONE CHANGES THAT ADDRESS RESIDENTIAL SIGNS SPECIFICALLY REMOVAL OF LANGUAGE ADDRESSING COMMERCIAL MESSAGES. THIS CHANGE ALLOWS FOR COMMERCIAL MEASURED SIGNS ON RESIDENTIAL ZONE PROPERTY. THE ORDINANCE AN ORDINANCE FORTY THREE DASH TWENTY ONE WHICH WAS JUST ADOPTED IN JUNE ON PERMANENT SIGNS RESIDENTIAL THAT ALLOWS FOR AT LEAST ONE SIGN A MAXIMUM FOUR SQUARE FEET AND A HEIGHT OF FIVE SQUARE FEET AND A PERMIT IS ONLY REQUIRED IF IT HAS A PERMANENT FOUNDATION OR ELECTRICAL LIGHTING. JUST IMAGINE A SIGN FOR ADULT SERVICES AT A HOME NEXT TO YOU . ANY GUESTS ON WHAT THAT WILL DO TO YOUR PROPERTY VALUE? LASTLY, BOTH THE STATE OF FLORIDA LEGISLATIVE ACTS WILL REQUIRE ADDITIONAL WORK ON THE PART OF CODE ENFORCEMENT. ONLY TIME WILL TELL IF REACTIVE CODE IS DROPPED DUE TO SENATE BILL 60 AND THE SLACK CANNOT BE PICKED UP IN THE PROACTIVE REPORTING WHICH IS A MEASURABLE INDEX AND THE INCREASED REQUIREMENTS CONCERNING HOME BASED BUSINESSES ALLOWED BY COMBINED SENATE HOUSE BILL FOUR OF THREE. I HAVE CONFIDENCE STATE CODE ENFORCEMENT WILL STEP UP TO THE PLATE BUT TIME IS GOING TO TELL WHERE THERE'S GOING TO BE AN ISSUE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SIR. ANY OTHER PERSON WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO CITIZENS INPUT PLEASE COME FORWARD. GOOD EVENING. UM MY NAME IS CONSTANCE MEHANNA LIVE IN THE NORTHEAST PART OF CAPE CORAL. I'VE BEEN HERE ABOUT UM TEN ELEVEN YEARS. I'VE REALLY ENJOYED EXCUSE ME I'VE REALLY ENJOYED THE STAY BUT UM THIS ISN'T ANYTHING I DON'T THINK IT'S THAT SMALL AS FAR AS RELATIVE TO A PROPERTY OWNER I'M A PROPERTY OWNER AND I HAVE A HOME. MY CONCERN IS THIS IS NOT A NEW ISSUE. THIS HAPPENED LAST YEAR AS A HUGE TRAMPOLINE SIZE OF A HOUSE I I CATEGORIZE IT LANDED ON MY WELL LANDING ON MY WELL IS IS TO ME AN ISSUE BECAUSE I JUST INSTALLED A NEW WELL IT WAS A FIVE THOUSAND DOLLARS SO I SAW THAT AND PANICKED CAME HOME AT DUSK AND MY SON SAID TAKE A LOOK IN THE BACKYARD AND IT WAS MY NEIGHBOR'S NEW NEIGHBOR HE'S A RENTER FROM THE BACK DIRECTLY NOT BEHIND ME BUT RIGHT IN THE BACK TO THE RIGHT AND THAT'S ALL I NEEDED TO SEE SO I ADDRESSED IT TO HIM BECAUSE IT BROKE A PANEL. I HAVE PHOTOS OF THE PANEL OF THE IF IT JUST LANDED IN THE BACKYARD, BROKE A PANEL OF A VINYL FENCE PANEL THAT I HAD PURCHASED FROM LOWE'S SIXTY DOLLAR VALUE AND SO I'M THINKING WELL I CAN ADDRESS HIM ,YOU KNOW, SIXTY DOLLARS I PUT IT IN A NICE WAY AND SO I DID TRAMPOLINE WAS THEN REMOVED FROM MY YARD PUT INTO AN AREA WHERE HE TOOK HIS TIME. IT WAS AN EMPTY LOT THAT IT WAS PUT ON SO HE COULD JUST TAKE IT AND PUT IT OVER THE FENCE THAT WAS THAT WAS DEMOLISHED WAS A CHAIN LINK. HE DIDN'T REMOVE IT RIGHT AWAY . I ADDRESS CODE AND CODE SAID HE HAD TO TAKE IT OFF THE EMPTY LOT. WE TOOK HIS TIME AND HE HAD UNTIL A CERTAIN DAY FOUR DAYS FROM THEN HE WAS ADDRESSED AND HE DID BECAUSE CODE TOLD HIM TO I DON'T THINK I'M NOT PERSONALLY ACCUSING HIM BUT I'M NOT SO SURE HE WOULD HAVE TAKEN MORE TIME AND MORE TIME TO REMOVE IT. BUT THAT BEING SAID, I WENT OVER VERY NICELY AND ASKED HIS WIFE WAS IN THE BACK ON THE CEMENT AND I SAID CAN I SPEAK TO YOUR HUSBAND? SHE SAID YEAH, HE'S OVER WHO VERY NICELY. I TOLD HIM YOUR TRAMPOLINE DID THIS JUST DESTROYED PART OF MY FENCE THE PANEL AND I SAYS THIS IS GOING TO COST ME I SAID ABOUT FIFTY SEVEN DOLLARS. I SAID CAN I HAVE THE REIMBURSEMENT AND HE SAID YEAH WHEN DO YOU WANT IT? AND I SAID WELL IF THIS WAS LIKE MIDWEEK I SAID BY THE WEEKEND AND IS OK AND HE SAID YEAH I'LL HAVE IT BY THE WEEKEND SO THEN WE CAN CAME AND HE NEVER HE NEVER ADDRESSED IT AND THEN LATER HE RODE BY THE HOUSE AND I SAID HEY YOU KNOW WITH THE WITH THE MONEY HE SAID OH MRS. PUT IT ON YOUR HOMEOWNERS AND HE JUST DROVE OFF AND FROM THEN I KNEW THAT I COULDN'T APPROACH HIM ANYMORE. I WENT BACK TO CODE AND THEY SAID WELL HE'S ALLOWED TO HAVE THE TRAMPOLINE SO WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT AND I HAD NO PROBLEM WITH THAT. BUT HE DIDN'T HAVE IT TIED DOWN AND I TOLD HIM SO I SAID YOU NEVER TIED THAT DOWN. WE HAD A BAD WINDY NIGHT. IT WASN'T EVEN A HURRICANE. IT WAS A IT WAS A WINDY NIGHT AND THAT'S WHY I'M HERE TONIGHT. I'M CONCERNED THAT SO FAR SO GOOD WE HAVEN'T REALLY HIT BEEN HIT WITH WITH THE HURRICANE PRESENTLY SO I'M NOT AS ANXIOUS BUT I WAS A LITTLE WHILE AGO WHEN WE WERE THREATENED WITH BUT YOU KNOW, THIS IS THIS IS NO THIS IS NOW NOVEMBER. WE ALL MOVEMBER WE STILL HAVE ALL DECEMBER AND I'M GETTING NOWHERE. I JUST I JUST WANT THEM TO TIE IT DOWN. IT'S BACK UP AGAIN AND I WOULD LIKE THEM TO AT LEAST KNOW IS IT TIED DOWN AGAIN? THAT'S ALL. WRAP IT UP MAN. YOUR THREE MINUTES IS UP. OK IF YOU LIKE SIT DOWN AND COUNCIL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO READ. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER PERSON WISHING TO SPEAK ON CITIZENS INPUT PLEASE COME FORWARD. A NONCITIZENS INPUT IS NOW CLOSED THERE ANY COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON CITIZENS INPUT COUNCIL MEMBER TE THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO THANK MR NOVARA. HE DID COME OUT YESTERDAY TO SUPPORT CHARTER SCHOOLS AND HE DID STAY FOR THE WHOLE DAY SO I REALLY APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT AND ON THE GENTLEMAN THAT SPOKE ABOUT THE LOOSE ANIMALS WE PAY SIX HUNDRED AND FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS TO THE COUNTY ANIMAL CONTROL AND ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS CALL THEM AND THEY WILL IF THERE IS A LOOSE ANIMAL WE HAVE A LEASH LAW IN CAPE CORAL SO WE SHOULDN'T HAVE LOOSE DOGS RUNNING AROUND ON THE BIKE PATHS AND THINGS LIKE THAT IF THERE IS ONE THEY WILL BRING IT BACK TO THE COUNTY ANIMAL CONTROL AND FIND ITS OWNER SO PLEASE DO THAT AND WE CAN PROVIDE YOU WITH THE INFORMATION IF YOU DON'T HAVE IT. THANK YOU MR THANK YOU. >> COUNCIL MEMBER NELSON. THANK YOU MAYOR. JUST TO ECHO WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER TATE SAID REGARDING MR NERVA THANK YOU AS WELL FOR THE SUPPORT. I'M CURIOUS TO KNOW MAYOR, IF YOU ARE A COUNCIL MEMBER STATE WE'LL BE DISCUSSING THE DETAILS OF THAT MEETING OR THE OUTCOME OF THAT MEETING WITH THE REST OF US DURING YOUR REPORTS. YES, OK, WELL THANK YOU. OK, THE MR MARVIN WHO BROUGHT THE TWO TOPICS OF HOMEBASE AND CO COMPLAINTS AS I'M SURE YOU'RE WELL AWARE STATE LEGISLATION PASSED THAT INTO LAW WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT UNFORTUNATELY WE HAVE TO FOLLOW IT. I DO THINK THAT IT'S GONE AS FAR AS CO COMPLAINTS IT'S GOING TO PUT THE BURDEN BACK ONTO OUR CODE OFFICERS AS FAR AS PROACTIVE ENFORCEMENT, I THINK THAT YOU'LL PROBABLY SEE LESS PEOPLE WANT TO FILE A COMPLAINT SINCE THEY HAVE TO GET THEIR NAMES AND THE HOME BASE RULE AGAIN WHETHER WE SUPPORTED IT OR NOT, WE HAVE TO FOLLOW IT. SO I THINK WE'LL HAVE TO SEE THE IMPACTS HERE IN THE FUTURE. WHAT THAT MAY BRING THE YOUNG LADY WHO CAME IN REFERENCE TO THE TRAMPOLINE BAND THAT IS BASICALLY A CIVIL MATTER. MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO EITHER CONTACT AN ATTORNEY OR YOUR INSURANCE COMPANY AND GO THAT ROUTE. UNFORTUNATELY THAT'S OUTSIDE OF OUR PURVIEW HERE AT CITY COUNCIL SO WE CAN INTERJECT OURSELVES INTO THAT MATTER. I DON'T HAVE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR ANY OTHER COMMENTS MAY OR DID THE LADY WITH A CONDO OH I SEE SHE TALKED EVENTS AND YEAH I THINK MR KITARA ADDRESSED HER CONCERNS. SO I THINK WE WE COVERED EVERYONE SO WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM NINE IS BUSINESS AND WE'LL MOVE ON TO NINE A CONSENT AGENDA AND I'LL OPEN UP THE CONSENT AGENDA FOR COUNCIL TO PUT ANY ITEMS FOR DISCUSSION. MAYOR CAN I PULL RESOLUTION TWO FORTY THREE TWENTY ONE PLEASE SURELY AND MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE BALANCE OF THE CONSENT AGENDA PER SECOND ANY OTHER DISCUSSION THE MADAM CITY CLERK WOULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLF GUNTA I HEYDEN LONG TIME NELSON I SHEPHERD I TAKE I COSDEN I SOUTHERNISM CARRIED OK SO ON TWO FORTY THREE TWENTY ONE THIS YEAR I DID MEET YESTERDAY I DID GET MANY CALLS OVER THE WEEKEND LOTS OF CONCERNS AND MIS INFORMATION ABOUT THE BOAT DOCKS WHETHER IT WAS THE RIGHT THING OR NOT WE HAD A LOT OF CONFUSION PEOPLE AS FAR AS FOUR FREEDOMS PARK WERE CALLING ME SAYING THAT THE CANAL WAS GOING TO BE WINE DIDN'T AFFECT THEM SO THERE WAS A LOT OF MISINFORMATION OUT THERE OR LACK OF INFORMATION I WOULD SAY SO IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THE SERIES MOVED FORWARD WITH THE TWO FIFTY THOUSAND DOLLARS FOR THE PARK BUT TO ELIMINATE ANY DISCUSSION ON THE BOAT DOCKS AT THIS TIME AND I BELIEVE THAT IS CORRECT I WOULD ASK THE CITY MANAGER SINCE I WAS AT THE SCHOOL BOARD MEETING YOU ARE CORRECT IN YOUR DESCRIPTION OF WHAT HAPPENED YESTERDAY. SO THEN IF IF EVERYBODY ELSE HAS DISCUSSION AND IF NOT I'LL MAKE OR MAKE A MOTION TO GO AHEAD AND APPROVE IT AS DISTRIBUTED WITH THE AMENDMENT AND IF I GET A SECOND THEN YOU CAN DISCUSS A SECOND. MR CITY MANAGER. MR MAYOR, I KNOW THIS MIGHT BE A TRIVIAL POINT BUT ON EXHIBIT A TO THE INNER LOCAL AGREEMENT WHICH IS THE CONCEPT ONE FOR THE PROPOSED IMPROVEMENTS TO THE FOUNDERS PARK, I JUST WANT TO POINT OUT THAT THE CENTER CIRCLE AND FOR WHATEVER REASON ON THIS VERSION IT DIDN'T PRINT THAT'S IDENTIFIED AS A SITE FOR PUBLIC PEACE. IT JUST DOESN'T SHOW ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE. SO I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT YOU KNOW THAT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? I HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND ON THE FLOOR. MADAM CITY CLERK, CAN YOU CALL THE ROLL PLEASE? ENTER. I HATE IT. ALL RIGHT. NOW I. I APOLOGIZE, MA'AM. I SHEPPARD I TAKE COSDEN I SET A NICE MOTION HEARING YOUR NEXT ITEM IS PERSONNEL ACTIONS AND I DON'T SEE ANYTHING LISTED PETITIONS THE COUNCIL I DON'T SEE ANYTHING AS WELL. ITEM NINE D APPOINTMENTS TO BOARDS AND COMMITTEES D ONE IS STORMWATER SPECIAL MASTER WE HAVE ONE VACANCY MADAM CITY CLERK YES YOUR HONOR WE HAVE A VACANCY FOR THE STORM WATER SPECIAL MASTER DUE TO A RESIGNATION WHEN ADVERTISED WE RECEIVED ONE APPLICATION FROM BRIAN ROSE. I'M NOT SURE IF HE HAS IT TODAY . I DON'T SEE HIM CHECK IN MR. ROSE. OK, THANK YOU. IF YOU'D LIKE HIM TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM FOR AN INTERVIEW THAT WOULD BE GREAT. I DID HAVE THE APPLICATION REVIEWED BY THE PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT THAT WORKS IN THE STORM WATER DIVISION AND THEY CONFIRM THAT HE MEETS THE QUALIFICATIONS WE HAVE ONE VACANCY AND ONE APPLICANT. YES, SIR. DO WE HAVE THE MOTION SO ANY DISCUSSION? MADAM CITY CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL GUNTER HAYDON LONG NELSON SHEPHERD TATE COSDEN I SEVEN EYES MOTION CARRIED. THE NEXT ITEM ON AGENDA IS THE MUNICIPAL FIREFIGHTERS PENSION TRUST FUND BOARD OF TRUSTEES. WE HAVE ONE VACANCY AND I BELIEVE THREE APPLICANTS. MADAM CITY CLERK YES. >> YES YOUR HONOR FOR FIREFIGHTERS PENSION TRUST FUND BOARD OF TRUSTEES THERE ARE THREE APPLICATIONS. THE FIRST IS FROM WILLIAM PATRICK, THE SECOND FROM BARBARA JEAN SAFRANEK AND THE THIRD FROM JENNIFER ROSE WOLLAR. I APOLOGIZE THE SPELLING IS INCORRECT IN THE PAPERWORK IT IS WADLER SO BOTH MR AND MRS COTLAR ARE PRESENT TODAY. IF YOU'D LIKE TO INTERVIEW THEM SURELY AND I SEE YOU HERE ON THE AGENDA ONE VACANCY FOR COUNCIL APPOINTMENT AND ONE VACANCY FOR COUNCIL RATIFICATION. THAT'S ONE IN THE SAME IT'S ACTUALLY A SEPARATE ACTION ITEM AFTER IF YOU PLEASE AFTER THE APPOINTMENT IS MADE FOR THE COUNCIL DECISION. THE SECOND ACTION ITEM IS A RATIFICATION FITH. TRUSTE IS SELECTED FROM THE MEMBERS OF THE BOARD AND COUNCIL GIVES IT THE RATIFICATION OF YOU INTO IT OR NOT. SO WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO CALL, UM, WILLIAM PATRICK IF YOU WOULDN'T MIND COMING TO THE PODIUM TO TELL A LITTLE BIT ABOUT YOURSELF? EVERYTHING. THANK THAT AFTERNOON MAYOR AND COUNCIL MY NAME IS PAT LONG. I'M A RESIDENT OF CAPE CORAL FOR ALMOST SIX YEARS. I'M A CURRENT CITY EMPLOYEE. I'M WATER RECLAMATION MANAGER FOR THE CITY. I'VE WORKED AS A AS A PUBLIC SERVANT WITH THE MUNICIPALITIES FOR OVER 40 YEARS AND UNDERSTAND THE IMPORTANCE BOTH TO THE CITY AND EMPLOYEES HAVING A STRONG AND VIABLE DEFINED PENSION PLAN ESPECIALLY AS CAPE CORAL GROWS IT WILL BE IMPERATIVE TO CONTINUE TO PROTECT AND STRENGTHEN THE FIREFIGHTERS PENSION PLAN TO BE ABLE TO RECRUIT QUALITY PERSONNEL. I SERVED AS AN ELECTED TRUSTEE FOR THE CITY OF FORT LAUDERDALE GENERAL EMPLOYEES PLAN FOR THREE YEARS THROUGH DECEMBER 2007. AT THAT TIME I WAS AN EMPLOYEE OF THE CITY OF CAPE CORAL AND ACCORDING TO THEIR PENSION RULES I WAS NOT ALLOWED TO CONTINUE AS A TRUSTEE AT THAT PLAN. I MAINTAIN MY CERTIFICATION AS A PUBLIC PENSION TRUSTEE AT MY OWN PERSONAL COST FOR TWO YEARS AFTER I LEFT FORT LAUDERDALE HOPING I'D HAVE ANOTHER CHANCE TO SERVE IN THAT CAPACITY AGAIN I WAS APPOINTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL IN JANUARY 2020 TO COMPLETE THE TERM OF LONGTIME BOARD MEMBER STEPHEN KHOI. I'VE BEEN A CERTIFIED FLORIDA PUBLIC PENSION TRUSTEE SINCE FEBRUARY OF 2006 AND HAVE A WORKING KNOWLEDGE OF FLORIDA STATUTES 112, 175 AND 185 WHICH GOVERN PENSIONS. THE STATE OF FLORIDA I WOULD APPRECIATE YOUR SUPPORT IN CONTINUING TO ALLOW ME TO USE MY EDUCATION AND EXPERIENCE TO SERVE IN A FIDUCIARY ROLE TO BENEFIT THE CITY'S FIRE DEPARTMENT PERSONNEL AND THEIR BENEFICIARIES AND I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION AND I WOULD WELCOME ANY QUESTIONS. >> THANK YOU, MR. LONG. ANY QUESTIONS FOR MR. LONG, CNN . THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU. JENNIFER ROSE BUTLER HELLO EVERYONE. MY NAME IS JENNIFER WOLLAR. I AM ORIGINALLY FROM IOWA. I GREW UP THERE AND MY FAMILY FARM. I WAS INVOLVED IN ALL ASPECTS OF THE FARM BUSINESS FROM SHOVELING THE CORN AND HELPING SELL THE CORN AS WELL AS THE BOOKKEEPING AND MANAGING ALL THE EXPENSES WITH THAT AS WELL. I THEN MOVED TO FLORIDA. I LOVE THE ENVIRONMENT DOWN HERE. I'M CURRENTLY WORKING FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION. I'VE BEEN DOING THAT FOR SIX YEARS NOW. UM, I WOULD LIKE TO SERVE ON THIS BOARD FOR MULTIPLE REASONS . MY HUSBAND IS CURRENTLY A FIREFIGHTER AT NORTH COLLIER DOWN IN NAPLES. MY FATHER IN LAW IS ALSO HE IS A RETIRED FIREFIGHTER OF THIRTY THREE YEARS OVER AT DEERFIELD BEACH. HE ALSO IS CURRENTLY SERVING ON THE CITY OF DELTONA FIREFIGHTER PENSION BOARD. SO I HAVE A LITTLE RELATION THERE. MY SISTER IN LAW ALSO SERVES ON THE FIREFIGHTER CITY OF BOYNTON BEACH FIREFIGHTERS PENSION BOARD. SO I HAVE HEARD HOW THINGS WORK THERE AS WELL. I FEEL LIKE SINCE MOVING DOWN HERE TO FLORIDA AND SEEING MORE POPULATED AREAS AND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO GET INVOLVED IN THE COMMUNITY ESPECIALLY AT A YOUNG AGE TO HAVE THOSE DIFFERENT VOICES AND DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVES TO BRING TO THE TABLE. I ALSO AM CURRENTLY PURSUING MY GETTING MY SERIES SIXTY FIVE LICENSE TO LEARN MORE ABOUT INVESTING AND GETTING MORE KNOWLEDGE ABOUT MONEY AND FINANCE AS WELL AND I THINK THIS'LL BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR ME TO GIVE BACK TO THE COMMUNITY AND SERVE IN THIS ROLE AND HELP SECURE FINANCES AND ALSO MAINTAIN THEIR KEEP THOSE GOOD EMPLOYEES ON THE BOARD. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. AND YOUR HONOR AND COUNSEL, IF I MAY MENTION BARBARA JEAN SAFRANEK HAD A SCHEDULING CONFLICT TODAY BUT HAS A DEEP INTEREST IN SERVING UM SHOULD COUNSEL DETERMINE THAT SELECTION? SHE WOULD REQUIRE A TWO THIRDS VOTE AS SHE IS A CURRENT MEMBER ON THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND A CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION. >> OK, THANK YOU. SO I GUESS WHAT WE'LL DO LIKE WE NORMALLY DO UH MADAM CITY CLERK IS UH WILL GO DOWN THE LIST IN OUR VOTING UH UH LINE TODAY AND PICK AN INDIVIDUAL CERTAINLY GUNTUR LONG HEYDEN LONG LONG LONG NELSA WALTER SHEPHERD LONG TAPE COSDEN LONG SO THAT IS SIX FURLONGS AND ONE FOR WELL BUTLER THANK YOU. >> DO I HAVE A MOTION UM ANY DISCUSSION MADAM MADAM PLEASE GO TO THE ROW CENTER. UH HAYDEN NOW I HALCóN I SHEPHERD UH I COSDEN I SET A NICE MOTION CARRIED WILL MOVE ON TO THE VACANCY OF THE COUNCIL RATIFICATION MADAM CITY CLERK. YES SIR. THE NEXT OH YES THE RATIFICATION THE NAME THAT HAS BEEN SUPPLIED IS DAMIáN OUT OF MONTE AND IT IS THE SELECTION OF THE PENSION BOARD TO MAKE HIM THE FIFTH TRUSTEE AND I WAS HOPING FOR A MOTION FROM THE COUNCIL TO ACCEPT AND AFFIRM THAT APPOINTMENT. SO MOVE ANY DISCUSSION NON MADAM CITY CLERK PLEASE CALL THE AND I HATE IT NOW NELSON I SHEPARD UH TATE I COSDEN I SEVEN EYES MOTION CARRIED. >> NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE MUNICIPAL POLICE EMPLOYEES PENSION TRUST FUND BOARD OF TRUSTEES WITH ONE VACANCY ADAM CITY CLERK SO FAR THE POLICE EMPLOYEES PENSION TRUST FUND BOARD OF TRUSTEES THERE IS ONE VACANCY FOR COUNCIL APPOINTMENT . WE HAVE THREE APPLICANTS ROBERT KEPPLER, BARBARA JEAN SAFRANEK AND JENNIFER ROSE BUTLER. BOTH MR. KEPPLER AND MISS SAFRANEK WERE UNABLE TO ATTEND TODAY'S MEETING BUT DESIRE TO BE APPOINTED. THEY ARE VERY INTERESTED IN THE POSITION AND AGAIN IF BARBARA JEAN SAFRANEK IS CONSIDERED SHE WOULD REQUIRE A TWO THIRDS VOTE BECAUSE SHE IS A CURRENT MEMBER AND CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSIONER JENNIFER BUTLER IS PRESENT. SHE HAD JUST INTERVIEWED FOR THE PREVIOUS SO WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO CALL HER UP TO THE PODIUM OR TALLY FOR A SELECTION? I THINK PROBABLY GOING TO BE THE SAME INFORMATION THAT SHE ALREADY GIVEN US. SO I THINK WE COULD PROBABLY JUST MOVE TO GO DOWN THE COUNCIL LIST FOR FOR THEIR CHOICE. GUNTUR KEBLE HAYDEN KEPPEN LE KEBER, NELSON KAEPPELER, SHEPHERD DIPLOCK TATE KEPLER COSDEN KEPLER THAT SEVEN FOR KEPLER AND DO I HAVE A MOTION SO MOVE TO APPOINT KEPLER SECOND WE GET A MOTION IN TWO SECONDS MADAM GUNTUR I HEYDEN LONG HI NELSON MY SHEPHERD I TAKE COSDEN I SEVEN EYES MOTION CARRY. I WANT TO THANK YOU MA'AM FOR PUTTING YOUR NAME IN. WE HAVE MANY COMMITTEES ON BOARD SO PLEASE FEEL FREE TO TO APPLY TO ONE OF THOSE IN THE FUTURE SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. FOLLOW UP ITEMS FOR CITY MANAGEMENT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A WATER QUALITY UPDATE MR. POGOING AND PUBLIC WORKS MIRABAD WILL BE GIVING YOU AN UPDATE ON WATER QUALITY. THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING. BARRON COUNCIL MIRABAD PUBLIC WORKS NOT MUCH TO REPORT ON WATER QUALITY. WE ARE IN THIS TRANSITION PHASE TO DRIER MONTHS SO RIGHT NOW WE ARE LOOKING AT GETTING SOME BENEFICIAL FLOW FROM THE LAKE TO SUSTAIN SALINITIES FOR THE HEALTH OF THE ESTUARY AND ITS HABITAT FOR THE LAKE OKEECHOBEE SYSTEM OPERATING MANUAL. THE US ARMY CORPS OF ENGINEERS HAVE PUSHED BACK THE DATE WHEN THEY WILL ANNOUNCE WHAT THE LAUSANNE PLAN CHOSEN WILL BE THE DATE INSTEAD OF YESTERDAY BEING PUSHED TO NOVEMBER 16TH. UM, THERE'S NOT MUCH NEWS ON THE BUBBLE CURTAINS PERMITTING PROCESS BUT I'M HERE IF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. OK, ANY ANY QUESTIONS FOR STAFF . OK, CNN THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THE FOR THE UPDATE. WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM TEN ORDINANCES AND RESOLUTIONS EXCUSE ME ITEM TEN IS PUBLIC HEARINGS. WE HAVE RESOLUTION TWO THREE FOUR DASH TWENTY ONE MADAM CITY CLERK PLEASE READ THE TITLE RESOLUTION TO THIRTY FOUR DASH TWENTY ONE A RESOLUTION PROVIDING FOR THE VACATION OF CLERK FOR EASEMENTS UNDERLYING A PREVIOUSLY VACATED ALLEY AND PUBLIC UTILITY AND DRAINAGE EASEMENTS LYING IN LOTTE'S FOURTEEN THROUGH TWENTY FIVE BLOCK FIFTEEN FORTY THREE CAPE CORAL UNIT SEVENTEEN AS PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HERE IN PROPERTY LOCATED AT THREE EIGHTEEN NE SIXTEENTH PLACE PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU. THIS IS A QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK COULD PROVIDE TESTIMONY. PLEASE BE SWORN IN PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? >> I DO THANK YOU. I'LL TURN IT OVER TO STAFF. >> THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL FOR THE RECORD PATRICK WHITE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. THIS CASE HAS RESOLUTION TWO THIRTY FOUR TWENTY ONE THIS AERIAL DOES A PRETTY GOOD JOB SHOWING YOU WHAT'S ON THE PROPERTY RIGHT NOW THE PROPERTY IS ADDRESSED AT THREE ONE EIGHT NE SIXTEENTH PLACE. THE AUTHORIZED REPRESENTATIVE ON THIS VACATION ZABULON ENGINEERING AND THE APPLICANTS ARE REQUESTING TO VACATE A LITTLE OVER 7000 SQUARE FEET OF PUBLIC UTILITY AND DRAINAGE EASEMENTS AND UNDERLININGS PAYMENTS THAT WERE UNDER A FORMERLY VACATED ALLEY. THERE'S A PERIOD OF TIME WHEN THE CITY VACATED ALLEYS BUT RETAINED THE UNDERLYING EASEMENTS. THESE ARE ALL LOCATED IN LOTTE'S 14 OR 25 OF A BLOCK FIFTEEN FORTY THREE I MADE THIS A LITTLE AERIAL HERE THAT BLUE AREA KIND OF RUNNING DOWN THE CENTER DEPICTS WHERE THE UNDERLYING EASEMENTS OF THE ALLEY ARE AND THOSE YELLOW AREAS DEPICT WHERE THE PEEWEES ARE THAT ARE GOING TO BE VACATED. THE IMAGE ON THE RIGHT SHOWS THE CURRENT ZONING MAP. THIS PROPERTY IS ALL ZONED COMMERCIAL AS OUR PROPERTY IS TO THE SOUTHWEST NORTH AND THERE'S SOME AMELLE PROPERTY FURTHER TO THE SOUTH AND TO THE EAST THE PROPERTY IS TWELVE LOTS. A PROPERTY HAS A COMMERCIAL PROFESSIONAL FUTURE LAND DESIGNATION THAT'S SHARED WITH PROPERTIES TO THE NORTH SOUTH WEST. THE APPLICANT HAS REQUESTED THIS VACATION TO ELIMINATE THESE INTERNAL EASEMENTS AND FACILITATE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT OF THE PROPERTY AND IN AN EXHIBIT IS LOCATED ON THE RIGHT THAT IS PROVIDED FROM THE APPLICANT. I'VE OUTLINED THE PERIMETER PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT IN A YELLOW OR GOLD COLOR THAT IS NOT AFFECTED BY THIS REQUEST. IT MEETS ALL THE REQUIREMENTS OF LDC THREE POINT FOUR OR FIVE . IT COMPLIES WITH THE PLAN AND SUPPORTS AN ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT PLAN GOAL AND WE ARE RETAINING OUR EASEMENTS NO ADDITIONAL EASEMENTS ARE REQUIRED. THE HEARING EXAMINER RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH CONDITIONS ON SEPTEMBER 14TH. STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF THE RESOLUTION AND WE HAVE RECEIVED NO INQUIRIES OR CORRESPONDENCE ON THIS MATTER. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU. I AN OPEN PUBLIC HEARING. THERE'S ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ORDINANCE ON RESOLUTION TO TWO THREE FOUR DASH TWENTY ONE PLEASE COME FORWARD COTININE LINDA MILLER AVALON ENGINEERING REPRESENTING THE PROPERTY OWNER AND THE FUTURE DEVELOPMENT DEVELOPER OF THIS SITE. I'D LIKE TO THINK PATRICK ON HIS PRESENTATION TONIGHT. I DON'T REALLY HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD THIS EASEMENT. THE EASEMENTS ARE IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SITE AND WE NEED TO VACATE THEM IN ORDER TO REDEVELOPMENT, REDEVELOP THE SITE. >> I STAND BY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ORDINANCE? I'M SORRY RESOLUTION TWO THIRTY FOUR THERE'S TWENTY ONE. A NON PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED TO OUR MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION TWO THIRTY FOUR DASH TWENTY MOVE ANY DISCUSSION FROM COUNCIL S.A.M. CITY PLEASE CALL THE ROPE GUNTUR I HATE IT ALL NIGHT LONG I NELSON SHEPHERD I TAKE I COSDEN I HAVE A NICE MOTION CARRIED WE'LL MOVE ON THE RESOLUTION TO THIRTY FIVE DAYS TWENTY ONE MADAM CITY PLEASE READ A TOTAL RESOLUTION TWO THIRTY FIVE DASH TWENTY ONE A RESOLUTION PROVIDING FOR THE VACATION OF PLAT FOR A PORTION OF THE THEMONE AND SKYLAKE CANAL RIGHTS OF WAY AND ALL UNDERLYING EASEMENTS LOCATED ADJACENT TO LOTTE'S THIRTY ONE AND THIRTY TWO BLOCK ONE TWENTY SIX CAPE CORAL UNIT FIVE PROVIDING FOR A VACATION OF PLAT FOR PUBLIC UTILITY AND DRAINAGE EASEMENTS ASSOCIATED WITH LOTS THIRTY ONE AND THIRTY TWO BLOCK ONE TWENTY SIX CAPE CORAL UNIT FIVE PROPERTY LOCATED AT FIVE TWO ZERO ONE SKYLAKE CAUGHT PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> THIS IS A QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK COULD PROVIDE TESTIMONY MUST BE SWORN IN. PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? >> I DO. THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. AGAIN FOR THE RECORD PATRICK WHITE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. MY CREDENTIALS MAY BE OBTAINED FROM THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE THIS CASE RESOLUTION 2005 I MADE THIS LITTLE ARIELS KIND OF DEPICTS WHERE WE ARE IN THE CITY THIS IS A PIECE OF PROPERTY THAT IS LOCATED IN FIVE TO A ONE SKYLAKE COURT. THE APPLICANTS ARE PETER AND WINIFRED FOSTER. THEY ARE LOOKING TO BUILD A NEW HOME. THIS AREA IS ALREADY OUT OF DATE. THAT SITE IS NOW VACANT. THE APPLICANTS ARE REQUESTING TO VACATE 690 FEET OF CANAL RIGHT OF WAY AND ONE THOUSAND SEVENTY FOUR FEET OF INTERIOR PUBLIC UTILITIES EXCUSE ME EXTERIOR PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENTS. THE PARCEL IS R1 HAS A SINGLE FAMILY FUTURE LAND USE DESIGNATION AS DO ALL PROPERTIES IN ALL DIRECTIONS. THE SINGLE FAMILY HOME WAS DEMOED IN LATE TWENTY TWENTY THE SIX HUNDRED NINETY SQUARE FEET OF UPLAND AREA IS DEPICTED ON THIS IMAGE HERE YOU CAN SEE THE GUYS IS ALWAYS MAYBE A FOOT OR TWO OFF BUT YOU CAN SEE WHERE THE SEAWALL IS AND WHERE THE PROPERTY LINE IS DEPICTED IN RED THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING THAT WE VACATE THE SITE THE PORTION OF THAT THAT ABUTS THE BIMINI CANAL AND SKYLAKE CANAL ON THE NORTH AND WEST OF THE PROPERTY WITHIN THE RESOLUTION ARE TWO EXHIBITS. EXHIBIT ONE IS THE CANAL RIGHT OF WAY VACATION. EXHIBIT TWO IS THE PUEA. NOW IN THIS INSTANCE THE APPLICANT IS PROPOSING TO VACATE ALL OF THE EXISTING PEWEE AND IN AN EXHIBIT THREE WHICH IS A CONDITION OF STAFF THAT A REDEDICATE THE EASEMENTS NEEDED TO REESTABLISH THE PERIMETER PEWEE THAT WILL ACCOMPLISH THE OBTAINING THE CITY'S PERIMETER PUBLIC UTILITIES BUT SO THE CASE REQUIRE ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS OF SECTION THREE, FOUR OR FIVE COMPLIED WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. A PERMANENT EASEMENT IS REESTABLISHED BY STAFF'S CONDITION. A PUBLIC HEARING WAS HELD ON SEPTEMBER 14TH BEFORE HECKS HECKS RECOMMENDED APPROVAL WITH CONDITION STAFF RECOMMENDS APPROVAL OF RESOLUTION TO THIRTY FIVE TWENTY ONE I RECEIVE TO TELEPHONE INQUIRIES THEY WERE BOTH JUST KIND OF WONDERING WHAT THE NEIGHBORS WERE UP TO. I RECEIVED ONE INQUIRY BY EMAIL NO ONE EXPRESSED ANY DISAGREEMENT OR CONSTERNATION OVER THE REQUEST. THANK YOU. I'LL STAND BY FOR ANY QUESTIONS . THANK YOU. I KNOW THE PUBLIC HEARING IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON RESOLUTION TWO THIRTY FIVE DASH TWENTY ONE PLEASE COME FORWARD. SEE A NON PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. IS THERE A MOTION FOR APPROVAL ? SOME OF SECOND I JUST HAD ONE QUICK QUESTION JUST TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR WE'RE GOING TO VACATE THOSE TWO ITEMS THAT YOU HAD NOTED IN THE EXHIBIT. BUT WE ARE GOING TO ADD BACK IN THE SIX FOOT PUBLIC UTILITY EASEMENT IN THAT AREA IS THAT RIGHT? >> YES, SIR. WE'RE REALIGNING IT ALIGNS WITH THE APPROPRIATE PROPERTY LINE AFTER THE VACATION GOES THROUGH . >> ALL RIGHT. I HAVE NO QUESTIONS. I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER LIGHTS ON . SO MADAM CITY CLERK, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND COULD YOU PLEASE GUNTER I HADYN I I NELSON I SHEPPARD I TAKE MY COSDEN I STEP IN I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> THANK YOU. WE WANT A RESOLUTION TWO FORTY ONE DASH TWENTY ONE MADAM CITY CLERK PLEASE READ THE TOTAL RESOLUTION FORTY ONE DASH TWENTY ONE A RESOLUTION PROVIDING FOR THE VACATION PLAN FOR A PORTION OF THE MAJESTIC CANAL RIGHT OF WAY LOCATA ADJACENT TO LOTTE'S FIFTY EIGHT THROUGH FIFTY NINE BLOCK TWENTY SEVEN CAPE CORAL UNIT ONE PART TWO PROPERTY LOCATED AT FIFTY THREE ZERO TWO MELALEUCA CAUGHT PROVIDING AN EFFECTIVE EIGHT. >> THIS IS A QUASI JUDICIAL HEARING. ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK WILL PROVIDE TESTIMONY MUST BE SWORN IN. >> PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND . DO YOU SOLEMNLY SWEAR OR AFFIRM TO TELL THE WHOLE TRUTH AND NOTHING BUT THE TRUTH? >> I DO THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR THE RECORD MIKE STRUVE PLANNING TEAM COORDINATOR WITH THE PLANNING DIVISION MY CREDENTIALS ARE IN FILE WITH THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE. THIS CASE BEFORE YOU THIS EVENING INVOLVES A PRIVATELY INITIATED VACATION REQUEST THE OWNERS SEAT LENDING SOLUTIONS LP, THE OWNERS ARE REQUESTING TO VACATE THIRTY THREE SQUARE FEET OF CANAL RIGHT AWAY FOR A PART OF THE MAJESTIC CANAL THIS PARTICULAR SITE IS LOCATED IN SOUTHEAST CAPE CORAL AT FIFTY THREE TO MELALEUCA COURT SCENARIO MAP SHOWING THE SUBJECT YOU NOTICE IT HAS CANAL FRONTAGE TO THE WEST. THIS AERIAL IS A LITTLE DATED AS A SINGLE FAMILY HOME WITH A POOL HAS RECENTLY BEEN CONSTRUCTED ON THE SITE IN THIS IS A ZONING MAP SHOWING THAT THE SUBJECT PROPERTY HAS R-1 ZONING AS DO ALL SURROUNDING PROPERTIES WITHIN FIVE HUNDRED FEET OF THE SITE. SOME BACKGROUND ON THIS CASE. THE SITE IS OVER TWELVE THOUSAND SQUARE FEET. IT'S AS I MENTIONED EARLIER OF A RELATIVELY NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOME WITH A POOL HAS BEEN CONSTRUCTED ON THE SITE. THE SITE ALSO HAS A SEAWALL TO THE WEST OR TO THE REAR OF THE PROPERTY AND IF THE AREA LOOKED FAMILIAR TO SOME OF YOU IT SHOULD BE BECAUSE YOU ENTERTAINED A VACATION REQUEST ON THIS SITE OF BACK IN JUNE WHICH LED TO THE ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION ONE TEN TWENTY ONE. NOW THAT RESOLUTION VACATED OVER FOUR HUNDRED SQUARE FEET OF CANAL RIGHT AWAY AND OVER THREE HUNDRED SQUARE FEET OF PLANTED EASEMENTS FOLLOWING THE APPROVAL THAT RESOLUTION THE APPLICANT DISCOVERED THAT THE OWNERS SURVEYOR HAD MADE A SMALL ERROR IN THE FIELD AND WHAT THAT RESULTED IN WAS A DISCOVERY THAT THERE WAS ACTUALLY MORE AN EXCAVATED CANAL RIGHT AWAY THAT COULD CONCEIVABLY BE VACATED. IT'S A SMALL AMOUNT OF RIGHT AWAY BUT IT TURNED OUT TO BE PRETTY SIGNIFICANT FROM THE OWNER'S POINT OF VIEW. SO WHAT THAT LED TO WAS A REFILING OF A NEW APPLICATION WHICH THIS PARTICULAR CASE REPRESENTS THIS EVENING AND THE APPLICANT IS REQUESTING TO VACATE A LITTLE BIT MORE ADDITIONAL AN EXCAVATED CANAL RIGHT OF WAY AND THIS IS A SKETCH PROVIDED BY THE APPLICANT SURVEYOR SHOWING THE LOCATION IN THE AREA. THIRTY THREE SQUARE FEET OF CANAL RIGHT OF WAY THE CITY WOULD BE RETAINING ALL UNDERLYING EASEMENTS IN ADDITION TO ENSURE THAT THE CITY WOULD MAINTAIN A SIX FOOT WIDE PUBLIC UTILITY DRAINAGE EASEMENT AROUND THE EXPANDED SITE, THE APPLICANT WOULD BE PROVIDING THE CITY WITH SOME REPLACEMENT EASEMENTS AS SHOWN HERE IN RED ALONG THE CANAL STAFF HAS ANALYZED THIS REQUEST CONSISTENT WITH THOSE STANDARDS FOR VACATION REQUESTS THAT APPEAR IN THE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE IN ARTICLE THREE. THE CANAL RIGHT AWAY IN THIS AREA CONSISTS ENTIRELY OF UN EXCAVATED CANAL RIGHT AWAY OUR DRY LAND THE RIGHT AWAY AREAS MALL THIRTY THREE SQUARE FEET DUE TO ITS ISOLATION, SMALL SIZE STAFF DOES NOT BELIEVE THAT THIS RIGHT AWAY AREA WOULD PROVIDE ANY FORESEEABLE PUBLIC BENEFIT. ALL EASEMENTS UNDERLYING THE RIGHT AWAY WOULD BE RETAINED BY THE CITY LIKE COMCAST AND CENTURYLINK HAVE REVIEWED THIS APPLICATION. THEY HAVE NO OBJECTION AND THE CITY WILL BE RECEIVING REPLACEMENT EASEMENTS FROM THE OWNER AS A CONDITION OF APPROVAL. STAFF IS RECOMMENDING APPROVAL OF THIS RESOLUTION WITH CONDITIONS THAT APPEAR IN RESOLUTION TWO FORTY ONE DASH TWENTY ONE. THE HEARING EXAMINER DID REVIEW THIS REQUEST IN SEPTEMBER AND RECOMMENDS APPROVAL WITH STAFF CONDITIONS. WE HAD NO SPEAKERS AT PUBLIC HEARING. WE HAD PREVIOUSLY RECEIVED ONE PHONE CALL JUST FROM AN INDIVIDUAL WANTING MORE INFORMATION ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR REQUEST AND I'LL STAND BY IN CASE YOU HAVE QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. I KNOW AND PUBLIC HEARING IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON RESOLUTION TWO FORTY ONE DASH TWENTY ONE PLEASE COME FORWARD SAYING NON PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE RESOLUTION TWO FORTY ONE POINT TWENTY ONE? ALL RIGHT. ANY DISCUSSION ADAMS CITY PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ENTER. I HATED LONG NELSON I SHEPARD I COSDEN I SEVEN EYES MOTION CARRIED IT WILL MOVE ON THE ORDINANCE EIGHTY DASH TWENTY ONE MADAM CITY CLERK PLEASE READ THE TITLE ORDINANCE EIGHTY DASH TWENTY ONE AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CITY OF CAPE LAND DEVELOPMENT CODE AMENDING ARTICLE THREE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW CHAPTER THREE SPECIFIC REVIEW PROCEDURES ADMINISTRATIVE PERMITS AND APPROVALS SECTION THREE POINT THREE POINT SIX ADMINISTRATE DEVIATIONS REGARDING DEVIATIONS FOR BOTH CANOPY'S AMENDING ARTICLE THREE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW CHAPTER FOUR SPECIFIC REVIEW PROCEDURES QUASI JUDICIAL PERMITS AND APPROVALS SECTION THREE POINT FOUR POINT TWO DEVIATIONS REGARDING DEVIATIONS FROM MARINE IMPROVMENT DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS AMENDING ARTICLE FIVE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS CHAPTER TWO ACCESSORY STRUCTURES SECTION FIVE POINT TWO POINT ONE ZERO GAZEBOS, SUN SHELTERS AND SIMILAR SHELTERS REGARDING HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS AMENDING ARTICLE FIVE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS CHAPTER FOR MARINE IMPROVEMENTS SECTION FIVE POINT FOUR POINT TWO GENERAL REQUIREMENTS SECTION FIVE POINT FOUR POINT THREE DIMENSIONAL STANDARDS SECTION FIVE POINT FOUR POINT FOUR JOINT MARINE IMPROVEMENTS SECTION FIVE POINT FOUR POINT SIX DAVITS WATERCRAFT LIFTS AND FLOATING DOCKS SECTION FIVE POINT FOUR POINT SEVEN BOAT CANOPY'S IN SECTION FIVE POINT FOUR POINT ONE ZERO CONSTRUCTION STANDARDS REGARDING REQUIREMENTS FOR MARINE IMPROVEMENTS DELETING SECTION FIVE POINT FOUR POINT FIVE KEYS AND MOORING PILES AND CREATING SECTION FIVE POINT FOUR POINT ONE ONE DEVIATIONS ESTABLISHING PROCEDURES FOR DEVIATIONS FROM THE REQUIREMENTS OF CHAPTER FOUR AMENDING ARTICLE ELEVEN DEFINITIONS CHAPTER ONE GENERAL PROVISIONS SECTION ELEVEN POINT TWO DEFINITIONS BY ADDING DEFINITIONS FOR SUN SHELTER AND THATCHED ROOF PROVIDING SEVERABILITY AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE LIKE YOU ARE NOW OPEN A PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ORDINANCE EIGHTY DASH I'M TURNED OVER TO STAFF FIRST GOT TO EDIT MYSELF I'M GOOD EVENING JUSTIN HELLER, SENIOR PLANNER WITH THE CAPE COD PLANNING DIVISION. UM THIS TEXT AMENDMENT WAS PREVIOUSLY PRESENTED TO YOU AT THE COMMITTEE OF MEETING ON SEPTEMBER 8TH. IT ALSO WENT TO PLANNING AND ZONING AND THEY RECOMMENDED APPROVAL. THERE HAVE BEEN NO CHANGES SINCE YOU LAST HEARD THIS. JUST TO QUICKLY SUMMARIZE, THIS AMENDMENT WILL RESTORE THE DEVIATION PROCESS FROM RAIN IMPROVEMENTS THAT EXISTED IN THE FORM OR LAND USE AND DEVELOPMENT REGULATIONS WILL ALSO RESTORE SOME ADDITIONAL LANGUAGE THAT WAS INADVERTENTLY DELETED. REFORMAT THE CHAPTER CORRECTS SOME GRAMMATICAL ERRORS AND ADD SOME NEW LANGUAGE FOR CLARIFICATION. I DO HAVE A PRESENTATION PREPARED IF YOU'D LIKE TO HEAR IT OTHERWISE I'LL I'LL STAND BY FOR QUESTIONS TO ANYONE WISHING TO SEE PRESENTATION OK I WILL NOW OPEN UP PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK WITH THE AUDIENCE. EIGHTY DOES TWENTY ONE PLEASE COME FORWARD SEE A NON PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED OR MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE EIGHTY DASH TWENTY ONE SEGMENT SO ANY DISCUSSION FROM COUNCIL SYNANON MADAM CITY CLERK PLEASE CALL GUNTUR I HEYDEN I MA NELSON I SHEPHERD I TAKE I COSDEN I A NICE MOTION CARRIED THANK YOU WILL MOVE ON THE ORDINANCE FIFTY SEVEN DASH TWENTY ONE MADAM CITY CLERK PLEASE READ THE TITLE ORDINANCE FIFTY SEVEN ASH TWENTY ONE AN ORDINANCE AMENDING CHAPTER NINE HEALTH AND SANITATION ARTICLE THREE DISPOSITION OF GARBAGE SECTIONS NINE DASH SIXTY FOUR THROUGH NINE DASH SEVENTY FIVE POINT EIGHT OF THE CITY OF CAPE CORAL CODE OF ORDINANCES PERTAINING TO REFUSE REMOVAL FOR RESIDENTIAL DWELLINGS AND COMMERCIAL ESTABLISHMENT WITHIN THE CITY PROVIDING SEVERABILITY AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. >> THANK YOU MR. CARTIER. >> THANK YOU. BEN SCUTARO, DIRECTOR OF THE DEVELOPMENT SERVICES DEPARTMENT . WE HAVE A BRIEF PRESENTATION FOR YOU. THE ORDINANCE TITLE IS YOU OR THE NUMBER AS YOU JUST HEARD FROM THE CLERK IS UM FIFTY SEVEN TWENTY ONE AS WE'VE TALKED ABOUT BEFORE FROM SOME OTHER WORK THAT WE'VE DONE IN THIS AREA AND THE CONTRACTS WITH WASTE FOR THE PURPOSE AND INTENT IS TO BRING THE REGULATIONS TOGETHER FROM RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL DISPOSAL TO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE CONTRACT AND THE NEW CONTRACT WASTE WASTE PRODUCT. THIS AUDIENCE DOES HAVE A LOT OF DEFINITIONS AND WE'LL GO THROUGH A FEW OF THOSE HERE THIS EVENING AS I STATED, IT ALIGNS THE CONTRACT WITH OUR CURRENT PRACTICE AND IT CREATES A PROCESS FOR WHAT WE CALL TIMELY REMOVAL OF NONCOM CLIENT BULKY WASTE. I KNOW IT'S A MOUTHFUL BUT THIS IS ONE OF THREE MAJOR ISSUES THAT THE ORDINANCE COVERS. IT COVERS WHAT WE CALL NON-COMPLIANT WASTE, COMPLIANT WASTE AND WHITE GOODS. WHITE GOODS WOULD BE APPLIANCES NOT FURNITURE THEY USED TO WHEN PEOPLE SAY YOU'VE HEARD ABOUT THE COUCH AND THE TABLE AND THE CHAIRS MOVED OUT THAT'S THOSE AREN'T WHITE GOODS. THE WHITE GOODS WOULD BE THE WASHER DRYER REFRIGERATOR AGAIN ONE OF THE MAJOR PORTIONS OF THE ORDINANCE IS AIMED AT UNSIGHTLY AND NON-COMPLIANT MOVE OUT TRASH AND PROPERTY OWNERS ARE BUILT AND HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL COSTS FOR IMPROPERLY PLACING THIS OUT ON THEIR PROPERTY AND CODE ENFORCEMENT HAS A ROLE IN IT IN TERMS OF FOLLOW UP. SO BOTH TRASH OR HORTICULTURAL WASTE THAT'S PILED ON IDENTIFIED AS PART OF THIS COMPLAINT GOES TO CODE COMPLIANCE WITH CODE COMPLIANCE DOES IS THEY GO OUT AND THEY VERIFY THAT THAT IT IS NOT COMPLIANT AND THEN THERE'S A NOTICE OF VIOLATION ISSUED PROPERTY OWNER HAS SOME TIME TO CORRECT IT IF THEY DON'T CORRECT IT WE MAKE THE CALL TO WASTE PROBE WASTE COMES OUT BILLING TAKES PLACE AND THEN WE HAVE TO GO BACK OUT AGAIN AND MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S FINAL COMPLIANCE. SO THERE'S A THERE'S A DETAILED PROCESS THERE AND WHAT WE'VE STATED ON THIS SLIDE IS ESSENTIALLY THE PROCESS IN A SHORTER VERSION OF WHAT THE ORDINANCE STATES. SO THAT'S WHAT THIS SLIDE COVERS HERE. SO WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO IS IS ESTABLISH THE PROCESS THAT PEOPLE WILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH AND SHOW THAT THERE'S RECOURSE IF PEOPLE DON'T FOLLOW THE GUIDELINES AND THERE'S OWNER ACCOUNTABILITY FOR IT. SO JUST TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW ITEMS IN THE ORDINANCE FOR YOU BECAUSE WE'VE RECEIVED SOME QUESTIONS FOR IT. PEOPLE SAY WELL WHAT IS HOW DOES THIS RELATE TO SINGLE FAMILY? WELL, THEY'RE REALLY ALL SINGLE FAMILY AND IT ALSO RELATES TO WHAT WE CALL SMALL SCALE MULTIFAMILY. SO NOT THAT PLANNERS, YOU KNOW ,NEED ANOTHER PIECE OF JARGON IN THEIR VOCABULARY BUT DUPLEXES AND TRI FLUCTUS AND QUADS ARE IN THERE AS WELL. SO THERE'S DIFFERENT DEFINITIONS IN THE CODE. I JUST WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE OF THAT BULKY WASTE IS THE MAIN TOPIC HERE AND THAT IS ANY GARBAGE OR TRASH THAT WEIGHS MORE THAN FIFTY POUNDS OR SUCH BULK THAT CANNOT FIT INTO A CART CAN OR REFUSE BAG EXCLUDING WHITE GOODS. SO THAT'S YOUR DEFINITION OF BULKY WASTE IF IT'S PUT OUT IN A COMPLIANT MANNER IT'S PICKED UP AND IF I'M CORRECT I HAVE ONE OF MY SENIOR STAFF MEMBERS HERE. IT'S PICKED UP THE DAY AFTER THE REGULAR PICK UP. OK, SO YOUR DAY IS TUESDAY THE THE PICK UP FOR THE COMPLIANT BALL TRASH WOULD BE WEDNESDAY. OH, THAT'S A RULE OF THUMB. THAT'S WHAT'S COMPLIANT IF IT'S NOT COMPLIANT I MEAN YOU DIDN'T DO THE RIGHT YOU DIDN'T PUT IT OUT RIGHT. SOMEBODY CALLS OR TO PROACTIVE CASE STARTED BY CODE COMPLIANCE . WE TALKED ABOUT WHITE GOODS. THOSE ARE THE HOUSEHOLD APPLIANCES. I JUST WANTED TO GET THESE ON THE RECORD. HORTICULTURAL WASTE IS COLLECTED ONCE PER WEEK AGAIN A DIFFERENT DAY FROM THE REGULAR DAY. THERE WAS A CHANGE ALSO IN THE ORDINANCE THAT STATES THAT HORTICULTURE WASTE THAT'S TOO LARGE FOR RECEPTACLES SUCH AS TREE BRANCHES, PALM FRONDS OR BRUSH HAVE TO BE CUT IN LENGTHS NOT EXCEEDING SIX FEET INSTEAD OF FOUR. SO THAT'S A CHANGE THE ORDINANCE THAT THAT'S IMPORTANT WE ALSO PLACE DAYS THAT REFUGEES CANNOT BE PLACED OUT ON THE PROPERTY AND THAT WOULD BE THE MAJOR HOLIDAYS MEMORIAL DAY INDEPENDENCE DAY, LABOR DAY ,THANKSGIVING DAY, CHRISTMAS DAY AND NEW YEAR'S DAY. THE ORDINANCE ALSO GOES INTO GREAT DETAIL ABOUT THE PROCESS FOR EACH ONE OF THESE PROCESSES. WE TALKED ABOUT BULKY WASTE, NON-COMPLYING AND COMPLIANT AND WE MADE SOME CHANGES IN THE ORDINANCE TO NARROW THE SCOPE OF THIS PARTICULAR SECTION BY ELIMINATING THE CODE COMPLIANCE MAGISTRATE PROCESS WE LEFT LEAVING IN THE WORDS ONLY THAT PERTAIN TO THE SECTION AND THE MAGISTRATE PROCESSES IN ANOTHER SECTION OF THE CODE. SO THE GIST OF THE ORDINANCE IS TO BRING IT INTO COMPLIANCE WITH THE CONTRACT AND SET UP A DETAILED PROCESS THAT CODE COMPLIANCE WILL FOLLOW AND WORK JOINTLY WITH WASTE. SO THEY ARE AWARE OF THE ORDINANCE. THEY'VE HAD INPUT INTO THE ORDINANCE AS WELL AS CITY DEPARTMENTS INTERNALLY. IF I HAVE ANY QUESTIONS WE'D BE HAPPY TO ATTEMPT TO ANSWER THEM. THANK YOU SIR. NOW PUBLIC HEARING THERE'S ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ONE ORDINANCE FIFTY SEVEN THAT'S TWENTY ONE. PLEASE COME FORWARD. I'M MR. MAYOR KEVIN BEST DIRECTOR OF PUBLIC POLICY FOR THE ROYAL PALM REALTOR ASSOCIATION. WE WANT TO RISE IN SUPPORT OF THIS ORDINANCE AND THANK THE CITY COUNCIL AND STAFF FOR HOLDING NON-COMPLIANT HOMEOWNERS ACCOUNTABLE. >> SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU SIR. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ORDINANCE FIFTY SEVEN TWENTY ONE PLEASE COME FORWARD. >> SEE A NON PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE ORDINANCE? FIFTY SEVEN DAYS TWENTY ONE MINUTES SECOND AND COUNCIL MEMBER NELSON THANK YOU MAYOR. SO I'M GRATEFUL THAT THIS ORDINANCE HAS FINALLY COME TO FRUITION. AS WE ALL KNOW OUR PROCESS HAS BEEN A BIT BROKEN IN TERMS OF BOTH TRASH WHITE GOODS ESPECIALLY MOVE OUTS. SO I'M GRATEFUL THAT WE ARE PUTTING SOME FORMALITIES TOGETHER IN THE FORM OF THIS ORDINANCE. I WANTED TO HAVE SOMEBODY MR. CITY MANAGER SPEAK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE EDUCATION PLAN BECAUSE WE CAN DO THIS ORDINANCE ALL WE WANT. BUT IF OUR RESIDENTS AND HOMEOWNERS AREN'T EDUCATED ON WHAT THE PROCESS IS, IF YOU COULD KIND OF SHARE THAT FOR THE PUBLIC KNOWLEDGE IN TERMS OF HOW WE'RE GOING TO COMMUNICATE THIS HOW AND WHERE AND HOW FREQUENT AND WHEN IT'S GOING TO START. YES. SO WE ARE WORKING ON A BROADER PUBLIC EDUCATION CAMPAIGN NOT ONLY AS PART OF THIS BUT AS PART OF AN EFFORT TO TRANSITION TO SAME DAY PICKUP AND WE HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH WASTE PRO TO HEAD IN THAT DIRECTION. SO OUR STAFF IS WORKING ON THAT AS WE SPEAK. UNFORTUNATELY I DON'T HAVE THE SPECIFICS AS TO WHEN SPECIFIC ITEMS WILL BE ROLLED OUT BUT IT WILL BE SOON OK AND THEN IN TERMS OF THE COST, I KNOW MR. CARTER SAID IT WAS IT STATES THAT IT'S GOING TO BE THE COST IT'S GOING TO BE THE COST TO THE HOMEOWNER BUT IT WILL BE WHATEVER IT COSTS FOR FOR US OR FOR WEISBURD TO COME IN AND MAKE THAT EXTRA PICKUP. IS THAT WHAT WE'RE CHARGING? I BELIEVE SO. AND I THOUGHT I READ IN THE ORDINANCE THERE IN THE ORDINANCE OR THE CONTRACT WITH WAZE PRO I KNOW I DIDN'T MAKE THIS NUMBER UP SOMEWHERE LIKE SIX DOLLARS. YEAH, I THINK IT WAS IN THE ORDINANCE I BELIEVE I'M TWENTY TO THIRTY PER CUBIC FOOT. THANK YOU. PERFECT. AND DO WE KNOW HOW THAT RELATES WITH OTHER I DON'T KNOW YOU WHAT'S YOUR MARILYN MORRIS AND I'M JENNIFER NELSON. NICE TO MEET YOU. SO MARILYN THEN IN TERMS OF HOW HOW DOES THAT RATE WITH LIKE SOME OF OUR SISTER CITIES AND OTHER MUNICIPALITIES THAT ARE AROUND OUR SIZE? YOU KNOW, I CAN'T ANSWER THAT QUESTION. I THINK IT'S ABOUT THE SAME BECAUSE I THINK ST. PETE SARASOTA WAS LIKE TWENTY ONE DOLLARS. TWENTY TWO DOLLARS. SO I WANT TO SAY THE COUNTY OR THE CITY OF FORT MYERS WAS AROUND THE SAME TOO. THERE'S A LOT OF CITIES THAT HAVE WEXPRO SO I CAN IMAGINE IT . YEAH YEAH. OK GREAT THANK YOU. THANK YOU MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER TATE THANK YOU. I HAD THE SAME QUESTION ON EDUCATION AND I WONDERED IF WE CAN PUT TOGETHER A FLIER OR SOME PIECE OF INFORMATION THAT WE CAN GIVE TO KEVIN FOR THE ROYAL PALM ASSOCIATION SO HE CAN SEND IT OUT TO THE THEY HAVE A PROPERTY MANAGER GROUP AND WE CAN GET IT OUT THAT WAY AS WELL AS OUR RENTAL REGISTRATION PROGRAM THAT WE'RE DOING. AND LASTLY, WHEN MR. COMPTON FIRST CAME HE TALKED ABOUT YOUTUBE AND ALL THESE DIFFERENT WAYS OF COMMUNICATION. I HOPE WE'RE GETTING STARTED ON THAT SOONER THAN LATER TO THE WAY OKEYDOKEY. THANK YOU. AND I AGREE. YOU KNOW, I THINK THE TWO THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DO IN THIS PROCESS IS EDUCATION AND ENFORCEMENT AS LONG AS WE DO THOSE TWO ITEMS, I THINK THIS WILL BE A SUCCESSFUL INITIATIVE MOVING FORWARD. COUNCIL MEMBER ALONG JUST A QUICK QUESTION FOR TUROW. WHAT'S A REASONABLE ESTIMATE OF THE TIMELINE IN ORDER FOR FROM DEALING WITH THE NUISANCE WASTE REMOVAL IF YOU'RE COMPLYING WITH ALL THESE STEPS IN THE 48 HOUR NOTICE AND THE SERVICE WITH CERTIFIED MAIL AS FAR AS THE WHEN THE NOTICE IS BROUGHT TO YOUR ATTENTION AND THEN WHEN IT'S REMOVED FROM BEGINNING TO END IF WE HAVE NONCOMPLIANT PARK TRASH WELL RIGHT. IT'S THE PROCESS REALLY COULD BE OVER IN TWO WEEKS BECAUSE WE HAVE TO RECHECK ON DAY ELEVEN WE GIVE THEM SO MANY SO MUCH TIME TO PUT IT OUT AND WHAT WE DO IS WE SEND THEM A NOTICE OF VIOLATION BUT IF IT'S RETURNED TO US THEN WE POST ON THE PROPERTY SO MAYBE A LITTLE BIT MORE THAN THAT BUT IT'S DESIGNED TO HAVE A RECHECK ON DAY ELEVEN BASED ON THE PROCESS THE WAY IT FLOWS IN THE ORDINANCE. THANK YOU. >> OK, SEE NO OTHER DISCUSSION WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR. MADAM CITY CLERK, COULD YOU PLEASE CALL GUNTUR I HEYDEN I LONG NELSA I SHEPHERD I TAKE COSDEN I SEVEN EYES MOTION CARRIED LIVE ON THE ORDINANCE EIGHTY FIVE DAYS TWENTY ONE MADAM CITY CLERK PLEASE READ THE TITLE ORDINANCE EIGHTY FIVE DASH TWENTY ONE AND ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CITY OF CAPE CORAL ENGINEERING DESIGN STANDARDS BY REPEALING PAGES H DASH ONE THROUGH H DASH NINE SECTION H SEAWALLS AND REPLACING THE REPEAL PAGES WITH PAGES H DASH ONE A THROUGH H DASH ONE M H DASH TO A THROUGH H DASH TUCK AND H DASH THREE A THROUGH H DASH THREE G ATTACH HERE TO AND INCORPORATED HERE IN BY REFERENCE PROVIDING SEVERABILITY AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THANK YOU MR. KATARI. I THANK YOU PAUL IN PUBLIC WORKS I'M UP. >> THAT'S OK. THIS IS REGARDING THE SEAWALL ENGINEERING DESIGN STANDARDS. WE'LL BE DISCUSSING THE NEW INSTALLATIONS THE PREVIOUS COUNCIL APPROVED SEAWALLS THE STANDARDS THEMSELVES, THE SEAWALL HEIGHTS SEAWALL PERMITTING IN THE NEXT STEPS THE SEAWALL INSTALLATIONS ENGINEERING DESIGN STANDARDS WERE FIRM ORIGINALLY NINETEEN EIGHTY EIGHT WITH MINOR REVISIONS AND 2002 IN 2017 WITH HURRICANE IRMA THERE WAS MANY SEAWALL FAILURES WHICH PROMPTED THE REVIEW OF THE EDDS PUBLIC WORKS IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE STRUCTURAL HEDS DCD IS RESPONSIBLE SEAWALL PERMITTING INSPECTIONS AND FINAL APPROVAL SEAWALL INSTALLATIONS NEW CONSTRUCTION WITH THE SOME OF THE FAILURES THERE WAS THE SEAWALL CAPS TIRZAH FAILURE MID PANEL FAILURE TOE PANEL FAILURE THAT KICKED OUT SOME MINOR SEAWALL FAILURE REQUIRING REPAIRS. EACH INSTALLATION IS SITE SPECIFIC. THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF A MAJOR SEAWALL FAILURE COUNCIL DID APPROVE IN THE PAST AFTER HURRICANE IRMA. THERE'S THREE BASIC TYPES IN THE CITY THAT ARE ALLOWED. THEY'RE ALL CONCRETE BASED IS THE TYPICAL PRECAST CONCRETE PANELS THAT WERE IN THE EXISTING EDES THE CAST TO PLACE CONCRETE AND FLAT VINYL AND IN THE CAST IN PLACE CONCRETE CORRUGATED VINYL SHEETING. HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF A TYPICAL PRECAST CONCRETE PANEL. >> HERE'S A FINAL USSERY A FLAT A VINYL ADJACENT TO A CAST IN PLACE CONCRETE PANEL THIS ONE HERE IS A FLAT VINYL REPAIR IN FRONT OF AN EXISTING SEAWALL AND HERE'S A CORRUGATED VINYL SHEETING REPAIR IN FRONT OF AN EXISTING SEAWALL THE FOR THE ENGINEERING DESIGN STANDARDS PUBLIC WORKS IN DC DCD MET WITH STAKEHOLDERS GROUPS INCLUDED BELOW ENGINEERING WAS A STRUCTURAL ENGINEER. WE HIRED A LOCAL SEAWALL CONTRACTORS THE CIA, THE SOUTHWEST FLORIDA MARINE INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION ALSO CONSULTED WITH THE CITY OF GORDA AND MAYOR GUNTA WAS ALSO ON THAT STAKEHOLDER GROUP. SO SOME OF THE ISSUES WE LOOKED AT OR THE CONCRETE CAPS, CONCRETE PANELS, THE SLABS, STEEL REINFORCEMENT PANELS, SOIL PENETRATION THAT MAIN ANCHORS TIEBACK ANTZ SO AS PART OF THE PROCESS IN THE NEW EDES WILL REQUIRE A SITE SPECIFIC DESIGN FOR SEA WALLS BY PROFESSIONAL ENGINEERS ALSO REQUIRE FINAL CERTIFICATION BY AP THAT THE SEAWALL IS CONSTRUCTED PROPERLY APPROVED PLANS. WE ALSO LOOKED AT THE SEAWALL HEIGHTS SO WE LOOKED AT THE CITY WITH THE HUNDRED YEAR FLOOD ZONES THE HIGH RISK ALONG THE RIVER, THE HIGH RISK AS I SORRY THE HIGH RISK COASTAL AREA ALONG THE RIVER, THE HIGH RISK AREA THE MAJORITY OF SALTWATER CANALS AND THE 500 WHICH IS THAT LOW RISK AREA MODERATE TO LOW WAS THE MAJORITY OF THE FRESHWATER CANALS AND YOU CAN SEE HERE THAT THE THE YELLOW AREA IS THE 100 YEAR FLOOD AREA AND THE ORANGE IS THE 500 YEAR FLOOD ZONE. >> SO WE USE THIS INFORMATION AND THE CONCLUSION FROM THE GROUP WAS THAT FOR THE PROPOSED SEAWALL HEIGHTS, THE RIVER WOULD BE A MANDATORY TO RAISE THE SEAWALLS 24 INCHES FOR NEW HOUSE CONSTRUCTION. BUT IF THERE'S AN EXISTING HOUSE, THERE'S A VARIANCE FOR A 12 INCH REPAIR OR TO MATCH THE EXISTING SEAWALL SIMILAR TO A SALTWATER CANAL YOU CAN RAISE THE SEAWALLS. TWENTY FOUR INCHES HAVE A 12 TO REPAIR OR MATCH THE EXISTING SEAWALL, THE FRESHWATER CANALS . THE DECISION WAS MADE TO MATCH THE EXISTING SEAWALLS THERE BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE THE BEHIND THE WHERE'S THE LEVELS ARE FAIRLY CONSTANT ALL SEAWALLS UEMATSU EXISTING SEAWALL FOR PARTIAL REPLACEMENT REPAIR OR REPAIR THE SEAWALL ENDS WILL BE LEVEL WITH SITE SPECIFIC DESIGN RETURNS. AND HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF WHEN A SEAWALL WAS RAISED AND IT WOULD DOWN TO THE ON THE LEFT DOWN TO THE EXISTING SEAWALL AND YOU CAN SEE HERE IS A CASE WHERE ANOTHER SEAWALL CAME IN AND BUILT IT ON TOP. SO THE NEW RETURN WILL BE A CLEAN RIGHT ANGLE AND HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF A NEWER SEAWALL. THE PICTURE ON THE RIGHT THAT'S HIGHER AND THEN FOR EXAMPLE, SOMEDAY IF THAT OTHER PROPERTY DOES RAISE THE SEAWALL, IT'LL MATCH THE ONE THAT'S THERE. >> SO THE NEW SEAWALL ADS WILL BE EFFECTIVE MARCH 1ST, 2022 PERMITS SUBMITTED TO THE CITY PRIOR TO EFFECTIVE DATE OF GRANDFATHERED PERMITS SUBMITTED TO THE ARMY CORPS PRIOR TO THE EFFECT THEY WILL ALSO BE GRANDFATHERED UPON APPROVAL NEXT STEPS IS WHAT WE DID. WE GET TO GO GO TO THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION THAT APPROVED IT. SO WE BROUGHT IT FOR THE INTRODUCTION OCTOBER 20TH AND WE'RE HERE TONIGHT AND AGAIN THESE NEW SEAWALL NEEDS WILL BE EFFECTIVE MARCH 1ST, 2022 AFTER ORDINANCE APPROVAL. >> ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, MR. CLINTON. NOW OPEN UP PUBLIC HEARING. IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON AUDIENCE 85 IS TWENTY ONE. PLEASE COME FORWARD. >> HELLO, MY NAME IS JESSE CURTIS. I AM AN ENGINEER AND A SALES REPRESENTATIVE FOR TUFAN TOUGH AND LIGHT IS A MANUFACTURER IN THE UNITED STATES OF GLASS FIBER REINFORCED POLYMER THAT'S THE IN THE SPECIFICATION THAT YOU GUYS HAVE PUT OUT AND I'M HERE TO SUPPORT LOCAL BUILDERS AND ALSO JUST TO COMPLIMENT YOU ON THE PROGRESS OF FORWARD THINKING THAT YOU'RE DOING HERE BECAUSE THIS IS A PRETTY GOOD SPECIFICATION BECAUSE THIS PRODUCT WILL NEVER CORRODE OBVIOUSLY AND IT'S VERY MUCH BETTER PRICED THAN THE ALTERNATIVE WHICH IS A STAINLESS STEEL. SO I'M JUST HERE FOR THAT SUPPORT. BUT I NOTICED THERE IS A AND THIS MAY BE ADDRESSED LATER BUT THERE IS A ASTM SPECIFICATION THAT MIGHT NEED TO BE MODIFIED A LITTLE BIT. SO I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN PUT THAT COMMENT COMMENT IN LATER OR IF NOW IT'S APPROPRIATE WITH YOUR COMMENTS ARE OK. >> SO THE GFP REBAR IS IT'S LISTED AS SPECIFICALLY REGARDING THE FIBERS THEMSELVES. SO THAT MIGHT JUST BE LOOKED AT BEFORE THE FINAL VERSION. THANK YOU MR. CLINTON. YEAH AGAIN IF IF THE EDES IS PROVED TONIGHT, CERTAINLY I CAN GET WITH THIS GENTLEMAN AND WE CAN WE CAN CORRECT THAT BY ADMINISTRATIVE CLARIFICATION THAT THAT TYPE OF DETAIL. THANK YOU, SIR. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON AN AUDIENCE? >> EIGHTY FIVE DASH TWENTY ONE JOE MUSICWORKS BGM CONSULTING ON BEHALF OF THE SELF A FORMER BRITISH ASSOCIATION. I JUST WANT TO TAKE THE TIME TO FIRST OF ALL THANK STAFF FOR THE 18 MONTHS TO TWO YEARS THAT WE WORKED ON THIS ALL ALONG WITH THE MAYOR AND WE STARTED OFF A LONG DISTANCE APART. ARE YOU IN ABOUT EVERY SINGLE COMPONENT THAT MAKES A SEAWALL AS TO WHAT WAS WHAT WAS NECESSARY AND WHAT MIGHT NOT BE NECESSARY? >> THE POLICY IN THIS ORDINANCE THAT ESTABLISHES THE NEED FOR SITE SPECIFIC ENGINEERING FOR EACH SEAWALL IN THE CITY OF CAPE CORAL ADDRESSES MYRIAD OF CONCERNS RAISED THROUGHOUT THE LOT THROUGHOUT OUR MEETINGS OVER THE LAST 18 MONTHS, TWO YEARS THAT TOGETHER WITH THE ENGINEER OF RECORD BEING RESPONSIBLE FOR THE INSPECTIONS ALL THE WAY UP WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A FINAL SEAL INSPECTION BY THE CITY. WE BELIEVE THIS WILL DO A COUPLE OF THINGS. NUMBER ONE, IT WILL MAKE FOR BETTER SEAWALLS FOR EVERY SINGLE INSTALLATION IN THE CITY OF CAPE CORAL BECAUSE THEY'LL BE SITE SPECIFIC DESIGNED BY A LICENSED P THEY'LL BE INSPECTED BY THE SAME LICENSED P THAT THEY WILL BE INSTALLED IN ACCORDANCE WITH THE DRAWINGS AS SUBMITTED AND IT ALSO WILL WILL ALLOW THE CONTRACTORS TO SEE WHILE AMERICAN CONTRACTORS TO HAVE MORE OVERSIGHT AND CONTROL OF THEIR INSTALLATION BECAUSE THEY WILL BE WORKING WITH THEIR SUB THEIR ENGINEER WITH INSPECTIONS. IT WON'T BE WAITING FOUR TIMES FOR WAITING FOR THE CITY TO COME AND MAKE INSPECTIONS. SO WE BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A WIN WIN WIN FOR THE FOR THE CITIZENS GETTING BETTER SEAWALLS. IT IS ALSO GOING TO BE SAFER SEAWALLS AND WE THINK THEY'LL BE DONE IN A MORE EXPEDITED MANNER AND WE RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT YOU APPROVE THIS AUDIT. THANK SIR. HI EVERYONE. MELANIE WILLIAMSON, I WANT TO KIND OF PIGGYBACK OFF OF WHAT JOE WAS SAYING FIRST THANK YOU AGAIN TO EVERYONE FROM THE CITY AND EVERYONE WHO WAS INVOLVED IN THIS BECAUSE WE HAVE COME A LONG WAY AND THE CITY DID MORE TO MEET US IN THE MIDDLE THAN ORIGINALLY WHAT WAS TALKED ABOUT. BUT SO I JUST WANT TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION. WHAT WAS IT MARCH 20 SECOND DID I SEE UP THERE? WAS IT MARCH TWENTY SECOND WAS MARCH 1ST. TWENTY TWO TWENTY TWO. OK SO DOES THAT MEAN THAT WE SO WE HAVE FROM NOW UNTIL MARCH SO ANYTHING AFTER MARCH IS GOING TO BE THE NEW STANDARDS. OK SO EVERYTHING THAT WE HAVE PERMITTED NOW ARMY CORPS DEP ALL THAT'S GOING TO BE GRANDFATHERED IN I HAVE NOTHING TO WORRY ABOUT OK I DO WANT TO JUST GO OVER A COUPLE THINGS AND I WILL TELL YOU THE PAGE NUMBER SO YOU ALL DO YOU HAVE THAT UP THERE ON YOUR OK SO LET'S GO TO H DASH ONE C DASH A AND IT'S THE MATRIX AND LET ME KNOW WHEN EVERYONE'S ON THEIR YOU GO AHEAD WITH YOUR WITH YOUR CAR OK SO JUST SO EVERYONE UNDERSTANDS WHEN YOU HAVE CAST IN PLACE CONCRETE AND FLAT VINYL OR CORRUGATED THERE IS ABSOLUTELY NO WAY THAT THAT CAN EVER MATCH A NEIGHBOR. DOES EVERYONE UNDERSTAND THAT AND IT HAS MATCH ONLY GO AHEAD AND CONTINUE. I MEAN ALL THE MATTRESSES ARE THE SAME SO I'LL GIVE YOU ONE OF MINE WHILE WE CAN PUT THEM UP ON THEM OR JUST WANT TO POINT TO WHERE YOU'RE TALKING SO YOU HAVE ON THE RIVER YOU HAVE THESE WHICH IS AND THEN IF YOU GO OVER TO THE MATCH IT'S GOT THE EXPERT NOTHING IN THE TOILET YOU CAN'T MATCH VINYL. SO VINYL WHEN IT GOES IN FRONT OF AN EXISTING SEA WALL, THE TIEBACKS HAVE TO COME BACK OVER THAT SEA WALL. THERE'S NO WAY THAT IT'S GOT TO BE AT LEAST A MINIMUM OF TWELVE . BUT IF WE'RE MAKING IT MANDATORY TO RAISE TWENTY FOUR ,HOW COME WE CAN'T HAVE VINYL RAISED TWENTY FOR THE TWO FEET ? DO YOU WANT TO OK SO I'M TRYING TO SO IF YOU HAVE AN EXISTING HOUSE YEP. AND SAY SO WE'RE TRYING TO GIVE FLEXIBILE THAT THIS WAS ALONG THE RIVER. WELL IT'S ANY OF THESE YOU HAVE MATCHING ON ALL OF THE MATRIXES AGAIN THAT'S A SEA WALL HEIGHT RIGHT. OK CERTAINLY THIS VINYL CAN'T MATCH IT CAN NEVER MATCH OK THIS IS CERTAINLY A DETAIL I'M WILLING TO SIT DOWN AND I CAN CLARIFY LIKE I SAID WITH ADMINISTRATION ADMINISTRATOR CLARIFICATION WITHOUT IT I'D HAVE TO LOOK AT THAT'S FINE. THAT'S FINE. YEAH THAT'S JUST LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE. WE'LL NEVER BE ABLE TO MATCH VINYL. OH WHAT ELSE ARE I THINK THAT WAS MY ONLY MAIN CONCERN. I JUST WANT EVERYTHING TO RUN AS SMOOTHLY AS POSSIBLE WHEN THIS PASSES SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUES. ONE THING I ALSO DID WANT TO BRING UP BECAUSE THIS HASN'T BEEN VOTED ON YET TWO OF OUR PERMITS HAVE BEEN REJECTED AND THEY'VE BEEN REJECTED GEARED TOWARDS THESE STANDARDS. SO I DIDN'T UNDERSTAND THAT. I'D BE HAPPY TO LOOK AT THAT. TAKE CARE THAT FOR YOU. >> OH, I'LL GIVE YOU MY CARD. WE CAN CERTAINLY TALK AFTERWARDS. I BELIEVE THIS HAS TO DO WITH THE EXISTING REGULATION ON THE WELL CAP BUT WE'LL TALK OK, THANK YOU. I'LL GET THAT FROM YOU. THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ORDINANCE EIGHTY FIVE THERE'S TWENTY ONE. GOOD AFTERNOON MR MAYOR. MEMBERS OF COUNCIL AND STAFF FOR THE RECORD BILL JOHNSON JR. EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR CAPE CORAL CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY ASSOCIATION. I JUST WANT TO ECHO THE COMMENTS MADE BY MR MOSKOWITZ. THIS HAS BEEN A LONG PROCESS AND I WOULD LIKE TO THANK MR KLING AND HIS STAFF FOR SITTING WITH US THROUGH MANY MEETINGS TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE ARE TODAY LIKE MR MAZURKAS SAID ,I DO BELIEVE THAT THESE CHANGES WILL BENEFIT OUR CITY RESIDENTS AS A WHOLE AND WITH THIS SMALL LITTLE INTERPRETATION WE CAN GET WORKED OUT AND KEEP THIS MOVING FORWARD SO WE'RE IN FULL SUPPORT OF WHAT HAS BEEN PRESENTED TO YOU TONIGHT AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO WRAPPING THIS UP AFTER A TEDIOUS TWO YEAR PROCESS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, SIR. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON ORDINANCE EIGHTY FIVE DASH TWENTY ONE PLEASE COME FORWARD . CNN PUBLIC HEARING IS NOW CLOSED THEIR MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE EIGHTY FIVE DAYS TWENTY ONE SO MOVE SECOND I JUST ANY DISCUSSION COUNCIL MEMBER OK SO WE'RE PASSING THIS AND I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH THAT BUT YOU ARE GOING TO ADDRESS MRS WILLIAMSON'S CONCERNS OUTSIDE OF PASSING THIS. DO YOU CAN YOU CAN PASS THE AREAS AND THAT ADMINISTRATIVE CLARIFICATION WILL LOOK AT THAT AND MAKE SURE WE CLARIFY THAT AND ALSO THERE MIGHT BE SOMETHING THAT COMES UP IN A MONTH FROM NOW OR A YEAR FROM NOW THAT WE WOULD NEED THAT ADMINISTRATIVE CLARIFICATION WHICH I COULD LOOK AT AND DO FOR THOSE DETAILS. OK, THANK YOU. DON'T REMEMBER LONG MR GILLIGAN. IF YOU COULD JUST COME BACK REAL QUICKLY AND EXPLAIN THE ADMINISTRATIVE CLARIFICATION THAT DOESN'T NECESSARILY CHANGE THE LANGUAGE IN THE CODE ITSELF WITH REGARDS TO ANYBODY THAT MIGHT WANT TO POTENTIALLY LOOK THROUGH THE CODE AND SEE WHAT THE SPECIFICATIONS ARE. THEY WOULD SEE ON ITS FACE WHAT THE ISSUE THAT YOU JUST DISCUSSED. YEAH, THAT THAT WOULD BE ADDED TO IT. THAT ADMINISTRATOR OF CLARIFICATION AND THEN CERTAINLY IF THERE'S A FEW OF THEM WE CAN COME BACK AND DO THE HOUSEKEEPING TO ADD IT TO IT LIKE YEAH I I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO PARTICIPATE IN THE STAKEHOLDERS GROUP THERE FOR EIGHTEEN MONTHS OR SO. I WILL TELL YOU THAT THIS TOPIC WAS EXTREMELY VETTED BY NOT ONLY STAFF BUT MANY OF THE MARINE CONTRACTORS THROUGHOUT THE CITY TO MAKE SURE THAT AND I THINK THAT'S WHY I TOOK 18 MONTHS TO MAKE SURE WE GOT IT RIGHT THE FIRST TIME. SO I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE THAT PARTICIPATED IN THAT LENGTHY PROCESS AND I AGREE THAT THIS WILL BE A MUCH BETTER PRODUCT AND AND ALSO I THINK THE ORDINANCE IS A MUCH BETTER ORDINANCE BECAUSE EACH INDIVIDUAL SEAWALL WILL BE SITES SPECIFIC. AS WE ALL KNOW, THERE'S MANY VARIABLES WITH A PARTICULAR SITE. SO THE ENGINEER THAT WILL BE SUBMITTING THE PLANS WILL HAVE TO LOOK AT EACH SITE SPECIFICALLY. SO I THINK IT WILL BE A MUCH, MUCH BETTER AND STRONGER FINISHED PRODUCT AT THE END. SO I DID WANT TO THANK EVERYONE THAT PARTICIPATED IN THIS THIS ENDEAVOR. SO THANK YOU. WE HAVE A MOTION WE HAVE A SECOND ON THE FLOOR AND I'M CITY CLERK. COULD YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COUNTER I IN LA NELSON I SHEPHERD I TAKE I COSDEN I SEVEN EYES MOTION IT WILL MOVE ON THE RESOLUTION TWO FORTY FIVE DASH TWENTY ONE MADAM CLERK PLEASE READ THE TITLE RESOLUTION TO FORTY FIVE DASH TWENTY ONE A RESOLUTION PROVIDING FOR HARDSHIP DEFERRAL OF SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS AND LEGACY ASSESSMENTS AND OF CERTAIN FEES FOR CERTAIN PROPERTY OWNERS AND THEIR PROPERTIES FOR FISCAL YEAR TO TWENTY TWO BASED ON CRITERIA ESTABLISHED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AND RESOLUTION FORTY SEVEN DASH FOURTEEN PROVIDING FOR SEVERABILITY AND AN EFFECTIVE DE. THANK YOU MR MASON SIR I'M ALMOST THERE. MARK MASON FINANCIAL SERVICES DIRECTOR. OH THERE'S ALWAYS A GIZMO THAT I NEED TO TOUCH. DIDN'T KNOW WHICH ONE IT WAS. THANK ANYWAY ANYWAYS MARK MASON ,FINANCIAL SERVICE DIRECTOR THANK YOU ALL HARDSHIP DEFERRAL WE DO THIS ANNUALLY EACH YEAR WE RECEIVE APPLICATIONS FOR HARDSHIP REFERRALS FOR THOSE THAT ARE LOOKING TO DEFER ALL OUR PORTION OF THEIR SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS AND THESE APPLICATIONS ARE REVIEWED AND EITHER APPROVED OR DENIED THAT ARE PURSUANT TO OUR HARDSHIP DEFERRAL PROGRAM WHICH IS RESOLUTION FORTY SEVEN INCH FOURTEEN. THE APPLICANTS THEN ARE THAT DO NOT MEET THE CRITERIA THEY ARE PROVIDED ANY INSTRUCTIONS TO APPEAL AND THEN DEFERRED ASSESSMENTS ARE PAID BY THE GENERAL FUND. SO WE SET ASIDE MONEY EACH YEAR FOR THOSE PAYMENTS. HOWEVER IT SHOULD BE UNDERSTOOD THAT ANY DEFERRED ASSESSMENTS THEY THEY THEY BASICALLY WORK THERE STILL DO THEY DON'T GO AWAY. THEY ACCRUE INTEREST OVER A PERIOD OF TIME AND THEY HAVE TO BE PAID AT SOME TIME IN THE FUTURE WHEN THEY ARE ABLE TO PAY THEM. SO FOR FISCAL YEAR TWENTY TWENTY TWO WE HAD SIXTY FIVE APPLICATIONS RECEIVED WE HAD TEN WITHDRAWN OR DENIED FIFTY FIVE BEEN APPROVED AND FOR A TOTAL DOLLAR VALUE OF NINETY THOUSAND DOLLARS THIS COMPARES BACK TO FISCAL YEAR TWENTY TWENTY ONE WHEN WE HAD ONE HUNDRED FOURTEEN THOUSAND DOLLARS IN HARDSHIP APPLICATIONS AND THAT'S IT. HOW MANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU SIR AND OPEN UP THE PUBLIC INPUT. IS THERE ANYONE WISHING TO SPEAK ON RESOLUTION TWO FORTY FIVE DAYS TWENTY ONE PLEASE COME FORWARD SEE A NONPUBLIC INPUT IS NOW CLOSED. IS THERE A MOTION TO APPROVE ORDINANCE CORRECTION RESOLUTION TWO FORTY FIVE POUNDS SECOND ANY COUNCIL DISCUSSION COUNCIL MEMBER TAKE MR. MASON IS IT TIME TO RELOOK AT THAT RESOLUTION FROM FOURTEEN TO SEE IF ANYTHING NEEDS TO BE UPDATED IN THAT HARDSHIP APPLICATION OR IS IT I'M DIDN'T LOOK AT IT SO I DON'T KNOW IS IT ANYTHING WE NEED TO LOOK AT WITH TIMES HAVE CHANGED AND TIMES HAVE CHANGED. I WOULD SAY YOU KNOW IT'S BEEN AT LEAST WHAT NOW IT'S FIVE YEARS SIX YEARS SINCE IT WAS IT WAS APPROVED AND AND ACTUALLY IT WAS APPROVED IN FIFTEEN OR SO BUT WE'LL CERTAINLY BE MORE THAN HAPPY TO LOOK AT IT BUT IT USES GUIDELINES THAT ARE ASSOCIATED WITH HUD. SO AS HUD GUIDELINES ARE CHANGED, SO TOO DOES THE RULES ASSOCIATED WITH WHAT WE'RE REVIEWING. OK, SO IF YOU JUST TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND IF WE NEED TO UPDATE IT, JUST LET US KNOW WE'LL DO. THANK YOU. I PUBLIC INPUT I DID AND WE CLOSED IT AND WE HAVE THE MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE FLOOR CAN YOU PLEASE CALL THE ROLL KANTER I HEYDEN I KNOW NELSON I SHEPARD I TAKE COSDEN I SET A NICE MOTION CARRIED ON ITEM TEN BE INTRODUCTIONS MADAM CITY CLERK WORD ORDINANCE EIGHTY NINE DAYS TWENTY ONE PLEASE READ THE TITLE SAID PUBLIC HEARING DE ORDINANCE EIGHTY NINE DASH TWENTY ONE AND ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CITY OF CAPE CORAL OFFICIAL ZONING DISTRICT MAP OF ALL PROPERTY WITHIN THE LIMITS OF THE CITY OF CAPE CORAL BY REZONING PROPERTY DESCRIBED AS THE WEST HALF OF THE SOUTHWEST QUARTER LESS THE WEST THREE HUNDRED TWENTY FEET THEREOF AND THE NORTHEAST CORNER OF THE SOUTHWEST QUARTER SECTION SIXTEEN TOWNSHIP FORTY FOUR SOUTH RANGE TWENTY THREE EAST LEE COUNTY FLORIDA AS MORE PARTICULARLY DESCRIBED HERE IN FROM SINGLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL TO COMMERCIAL CORRIDOR ZONE PROPERTY IS LOCATED AT TWENTY THREE ZERO ONE SOUTH WEST PINE ISLAND ROAD PROVIDING SEVERABILITY AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE NOVEMBER 17TH TWO THOUSAND TWENTY ONE. THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION BY STAFF OR COUNSEL? CNN WILL MOVE ON THE ORDINANCE NINETY ONE DASH TWENTY ONE MADAM CITY CLERK PLEASE READ THE TITLE AND SET THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING DATE ORDINANCE NINETY ONE DASH TWENTY ONE AN ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CITY OF CAPE CORAL OFFICIAL ZONING DISTRICT MAP OF ALL PROPERTY WITHIN THE LIMITS OF THE CITY OF CAPE CORAL BY REZONING PROPERTY DESCRIBED AS UNIT TWENTY FOUR BLOCK TEN SIXTY EIGHT LOTS ONE THROUGH FORTY BLOCK ELEVEN FIFTY FOUR LOTTE'S ONE THROUGH FORTY AND BLOCK TEN SEVENTY THREE LOTTE'S ONE THROUGH FIFTEEN AND THIRTY THROUGH FORTY CAPE CORAL SUBDIVISION FROM PROFESSIONAL OFFICE TO RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY LOAN ZONE PROPERTY LOCATED BETWEEN CULTURAL PARK BOULEVARD SOUTH TO THE EAST SOUTHEAST NINTH STREET TO THE SOUTH SE SIXTH COURT TO THE WEST AND SOUTH EAST SEVENTH STREET TO THE NORTH PROVIDING SEVERABILITY AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE. THE FIRST PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE NOVEMBER 17 TWO THOUSAND TWENTY ONE. ANY DISCUSSION BY STAFF OR COUNCIL S.A.M. MOVE ON TO ORDINANCE NINETY TWO DADGE TWENTY ONE MADAM CLERK PLEASE READ THE TITLES OF THE PUBLIC HEARING DATE ORDINANCE NINETY TWO DASH TWENTY ONE AND ORDINANCE AMENDING THE CITY OF CAPE CORAL OFFICIAL ZONING DISTRICT MAP OF ALL PROPERTY WITHIN THE LIMITS OF THE CITY OF CAPE CORAL BY REZONING PROPERTY DESCRIBED SLOT'S ONE THREE SEVEN BLOCK ELEVEN FORTY SIX UNIT TWENTY TWO CAPE CORAL FROM PROFESSIONAL TO RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY MEDIUM ZONE BY REZONING PROPERTY DESCRIBED AS LOTTE'S EIGHT THROUGH TEN BLOCK ELEVEN FORTY SIX UNIT TWENTY CAPE CORAL FROM RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY LOW TO RESIDENTIAL MULTIFAMILY MEDIUM ZONE PROPERTIES LOCATED AT EIGHT SIXTEEN SOUTH EIGHTH PLACE PROVIDING SEVERABILITY AND AN EFFECTIVE EIGHT THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE NOVEMBER 17TH TWO THOUSAND TWENTY ONE. ANY COMMENTS BY STAFF OR COUNCIL CNN LIVE ON ORDINANCE NINETY FIVE DAYS TWENTY ONE HAS BEEN WITHDRAWN FROM TONIGHT'S AGENDA BY THE APPLICANT SO WE WILL MOVE ON TO ORDINANCE SIXTY EIGHT THOUSAND TWENTY ONE MADAM CITY CLERK PLEASE READ THE TITLE SAID THE PUBLIC HEARING DATE ORDINANCE SIXTY EIGHT THOUSAND TWENTY ONE AND ORDINANCE PENDING THE CITY OF CAPE CORAL CODE OF ORDINANCES CHAPTER TWO ADMINISTER BY CREATING ARTICLE NINE NAMING OF CITY ASSETS PROVIDING PURPOSE DEFINITIONS POLICY AND PROCEDURE FOR NAMING OR RENAMING OF CITY ASSETS OR COMMEMORATIVE OF WORK PROVIDING SEVERABILITY AND AN EFFECTIVE DATE THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE NOVEMBER 17TH TWO THOUSAND TWENTY ONE OH THANK YOU. >> ANY DISCUSSION I STAND FOR COUNCIL CNM WILL MOVE ON THE ORDINANCE FOR DYCHE TWENTY ONE MADAM CITY CLERK PLEASE READ THE TITLE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING DE ORDINANCE NINETY FOUR DASH TWENTY ONE AND ORDINANCE AMENDING CITY OF CAPE CORAL ORDINANCE SEVENTY FOUR DASH TWENTY AS AMENDED BY ORDINANCES THIRTEEN DASH TWENTY ONE FORTY SIX DASH TWENTY ONE AND EIGHTY SEVEN DASH TWENTY ONE WHICH ADOPTED THE CITY OF CAPE CORAL OPERATING BUDGET REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES AND CAPITAL BUDGET FOR FISCAL YEAR TWO THOUSAND TWENTY ONE BY INCREASING THE TOTAL REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES BY A TOTAL OF SEVENTY SEVEN MILLION THREE HUNDRED THIRTY THREE THOUSAND ONE HUNDRED FORTY DOLLARS PROVIDING SEVERABILITY AND AN EFFECTIVE AID THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE NOVEMBER 17TH TWO THOUSAND TWENTY. THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION BY STAFF OR COUNCIL? CNN WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM ELEVEN UNFINISHED BUSINESS. I DON'T SEE ANYTHING NOTED IN OUR AGENDA. WE DO HAVE ANY FOLLOW UP ITEMS FOR COUNCIL, ANY FOLLOW UP ITEMS THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TO DISCUSS. CNN WILL MOVE ON TO ITEM TWELVE NEW BUSINESS AT THIS TIME I THINK WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF MAYOR PRO TEM AND OUR OFFICE MANAGER AND SEVERAL OF OUR COMMITTEES AND BOARDS MEMBERSHIPS SO WE'LL GO DOWN THE LIST. THE FIRST ITEM OF DISCUSSION IS MAYOR PRO TEM SELECTION SO I'D LIKE TO OPEN IT UP FOR ANY NOMINATIONS OR ANY VOLUNTEERS FOR THE MAYOR PRO SELECTION YOU WOULD LIKE TO BE MAYOR PRO TEM . OH MY LAST HURRAH I'LL NOMINATE TO DO IT. I LIKE THE IDEA OF ROTATING ANNUALLY SO SZERLAG LAST ROUND OK WE HAVE ONE NOMINATION ON THE FLOOR COUNCIL MEMBER STATE DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER NOMINATIONS? OK, CNN DO WE HAVE A MOTION ON THE FLOOR FOR COUNCIL MEMBER TO BE MAYOR PRO TEM SO MOVED ANY DISCUSSION THE NON MADAM CITY CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLF GUNTUR I HEYDEN I LE I NELSON SHEPHERD TATE I COSDEN I SEVEN EYES MOTION CARRIED THANK YOU THE NEXT ITEM IS THE OFFICE MANAGER SELECTIONS. >> DO WE HAVE THAT PART. DO WE HAVE ANY NOMINATIONS OR ANY VOLUNTEERS MAYOR I THINK THAT YOU SHOULD CONTINUE THIS YEAR. I THINK IT'S BEEN COHESIVE AND YOU'RE HERE AND I JUST REALLY LIKE THE WAY IT'S BEEN GOING. I SECOND I MEAN DID YOU MAKE A MOTION? >> NO BUT I WILL I JUST WANT OK . OH SORRY HE DIDN'T ASK FOR IT. >> YEAH BUT I WAS GOING TO YES . >> SO DID YOU MAKE A MOTION I'M MAKING A MOTION THAT THE MAYOR GUNTUR BECOME THE OFFICE MANAGER WITH NO INCREASE IN PAY . >> NO I SECOND THAT ABSOLUTELY NO INCREASE ANY OTHER DISCUSSIONS ON THIS TOPIC. >> SEE A NON MADAM CITY CLERK PLEASE CALL THE WORLD GUNTER HEYDEN. I LIKE NELSON I WILL SHEPHERD I TAKE COSDEN I SET A NICE MOTION CARRIED OK THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS MEMBERSHIP FEES EITHER THE SAME FEES THAT WE'VE PAID OUT FOR SEVERAL YEARS I THINK ALL COUNCIL HAS GOTTEN A COPY OF THE DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE PARTICIPATE IN. I WILL READ THE LIST HERE THAT I HAVE IN FRONT OF ME. WE HAD THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES, THE FLORIDA LEAGUE MAYORS METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION, THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES IN THE SOUTHWEST FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES AND ALSO THE U.S. CONFERENCE OF MAYORS. THERE THEY ARE THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT WE HAVE BEEN PARTICIPATING IN SO OPEN UP A DISCUSSION FROM THERE AND I SEE MADAM CITY CLERK LIGHTMAN'S YES . I JUST HAVE ONE NOTE FOR OUR COUNCIL THE AGENDA REQUEST FORM MAKES A REFERENCE TO THE SOUTHWEST FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES SELECTING A TIER THAT NO LONGER APPLIES. WE HAVE CONFIRMED THE FEE IS THE THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS ON THE LIST SO PLEASE JUST DISREGARD THAT NOTATION. >> YEAH, MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WAS FOR ASSOCIATE MEMBERS THAT TIER SYSTEM OF FOR ANYONE THAT WANTED TO PARTICIPATE AS AN ASSOCIATE MEMBER. BUT AS FAR AS MANY SUPPORTERS THAT WANTED TO PARTICIPATE IT WAS STILL THE SAME THREE THOUSAND DOLLAR FEE SO I GUESS I'LL OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION OR A MOTION TO BE SENT TO APPROVE THE MEMBERSHIP FEES AS WRITTEN LIKE THE CORRECTION OUR CITY CLERK GAVE US A SECOND ANY DISCUSSION ON THAT? CNN MADAM CITY CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROPE GUNTER I HEYDEN I LONG HI NELSON. HI SHEPHERD. HI KATE. I COSDEN I HAVE A NICE MOTION CARRIED. >> THANK YOU. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS THE LIAISON APPOINTMENTS ON THE SEVERAL BOARDS THAT COUNCIL SAID ON. SO I THINK WHAT I'LL DO IS I'LL JUST GO DOWN EACH ITEM INDIVIDUALLY AND I SEE COUNCIL MEMBER HEYDEN YOU GET YOUR LIGHT ON GOOD. I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF IT MIGHT MAKE IT EASIER IF I JUST REQUEST TO REMAIN ON A SEVEN THAT I'M CURRENTLY ON. OK AND I'LL RUN THOSE DOWN IF IF YOU HOW ABOUT IF WE JUST MAKE A MOTION? I THINK I THINK THE EASIEST THING TO DO IS GO DOWN EACH INDIVIDUAL COMMITTEE AND I WILL MENTION WHO'S ON THAT NOW AND WE'LL TAKE NOMINATIONS, SEE IF THE PERSON WANTS A VOLUNTEER AND THEN AND THEN HAVE A MOTION FOR EACH SPECIFIC SET. SORRY JUST TO CLARIFY WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS IS WE'LL HAVE TO DO A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR EACH SINGLE ONE OR WE'RE GOING TO LUMP IT ALL TOGETHER. WELL WE CAN I THINK WE NEED TO GO DOWN A LIST AND FIND OUT NO ONE WHO'S STILL INTERESTED AND THAT AND THEN SECONDLY THE C OF GIVE EVERYONE ELSE THE OPPORTUNITY TO SEE IF THEY WANT TO PARTICIPATE ON THAT PARTICULAR BOARD. IF WE WANT TO DO ONE MOTION AT THE END OR EACH INDIVIDUAL, I'LL LEAVE IT UP TO THE RECOMMENDATION. AND MADAM CITY CLERK, WHAT WOULD BE EASIER FOR YOU? SORRY TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT. EXCELLENT QUESTION. I PERSONALLY THINK JUST GO DOWN THE MOTION FOR EACH ITEM SO WE'LL HAVE A TOTAL OF EIGHTEEN MOTIONS WHEN WE'RE DONE IF WE DO IT ALL IN ONE GROUP WE'LL STILL BE TALLYING AND SURVEYING AND TRYING TO DECIDE IF THERE'S ANY CHANGES. SO I WOULD IF COUNCIL BRIEFS EACH BOARD I'M PRETTY GOOD. ALL RIGHT. IT MAY TAKE US A LITTLE LONGER BUT I THINK IT'LL BE A LITTLE CLEARER TO TO UNDERSTAND OK, THE FIRST BOARD THAT WE HAVE IS THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ADVISORY COMMITTEE COUNCIL MEMBER NELSON PRESENTLY SITS ON THAT BOARD SO I WILL OPEN UP FOR ANY NOMINATIONS OR ANY VOLUNTEERS THAT WANT TO FULFILL THAT PARTICULAR BOARD AND MANY COUNCIL MEMBER NELSON NO. I WAS GOING TO NOMINATE COUNCILOR COSDEN WHEN THE MEETING'S THERE IN THE EVENING . THEY DO HIM IN THE EVENING. IT'S AWESOME AT FIVE THIRTY UNFORTUNATELY THAT WILL NOT WORK FOR ME. OK THEN I'LL TAKE THE NOMINATION OK. >> IS THERE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO BE CONSIDERED FOR THAT BOARD? ALL RIGHT WE JUST HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER NO TO CONTINUE ON THAT BOARD. SO DO I HAVE A MOTION MOTION TO APPROVE COUNCIL MEMBER NELSON? OK, ANY DISCUSSION THE ANNOUNCEMENTS PLEASE CALL THE ROLL GUNTUR I HEYDEN ARE I NELSON SHEPHERD TATE I COSDEN OUR ALLIES MOTION CARRIED OK NOW WE'LL GO INTO THE AUDIT COMMITTEE. THAT PARTICULAR COMMITTEE IS CURRENTLY LEE IS ON IS HELD BY COUNCIL MEMBER HEYDEN. HIS EARLIER COMMENTS SOUNDS LIKE HE HAS A DESIRE TO CONTINUE TO IMPROVE COUNCIL MEMBER SEGAN THE AUDIT IN EVERY OTHER ONE. NO I'M KIDDING. I'M SORRY IT THEY NEED IT ALL RIGHT. >> ANY OTHER VOLUNTEERS FOR THAT PARTICULAR COMMITTEE? CNN WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND MENDHAM CITY CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL COUNTER I PAID IN BY NELSON. I SHEPARD TATE I COSDEN I MOTION CARRIED THE NEXT ONE ON THE LIST BUDGET REVIEW COMMITTEE WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER HEYDEN SECOND. >> WELL THAT WAS QUICK. I TOLD YOU I COULD HAVE ANY SAY FOR THE OTHER THE OTHER VOLUNTEERS SO WE GET A MOTION IN THE SECOND. MADAM CITY CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL FOR THE BUDGET REVIEW COMMITTEE GUNTUR I HAYDEN I NELSON SHEPHERD TATE I COSDEN I MENTIONED CARRIE WE ARE THE CHARTER SCHOOL GOVERNING BOARD CURRENTLY HELD BY COUNCIL MEMBER TATE SO I WILL OPEN IT UP FOR ANY MOTION TO APPOINT COUNCIL MEMBER TATE TO THE SCHOOL GOVERNING BOARD DOES TAKE ONE OH SORRY. >> YEAH NO I'LL TAKE A SECOND. ANY OTHER VOLUNTEERS HAVE MOTION AND SECONDMENTS PLEASE CALL THE LOCAL CANTOR HEYDEN I NELSON SHEPHERD TATE I COSDEN I MENTIONED WE HAVE THE SELECTION ADVISORY COMMITTEE COUNCIL MEMBER HEYDEN CURRENTLY ON THAT HAS A LIAISON WITH COUNCIL MEMBER IN ANY OTHER VOLUNTEERS SYNANON MADAM CITY CLERK PLEASE CALL THE RO GUNTUR HEYDEN OR BY NELSON I SHEPHERD TATE I COSDEN I I'LL READ THE NEXT ONE ON THE LIST IS YOUTH COUNCIL. THIS PARTICULAR BOARD HAS A A MEMBER ALESUND MEMBER THAT'S ASSIGNED AND THEY ALTERNATE THE LIAISON MEMBER ASSIGNED TO THE YOUTH COUNCIL NOW AS COUNCIL MEMBER HEYDEN WITH COUNCIL MEMBER COSDEN AS A ULTRANET SO DO WE HAVE ANY ONE THAT WOULD BE INTERESTED THE BEING ON THIS BOARD AS A COUNCIL MEMBER? HEYDEN STATED EARLIER HE WOULD HAVE THE DESIRE TO STAY ON AS THE YOUTH COUNCIL LIAISON TO KEEP BOTH COUNCIL REIGN AS THE LIAISON IN COUNCIL MEMBER COSDEN AS THE SECOND YEAH ALTERNATE ANY OTHER VOLUNTEERS A NON MADAM CITY CLERK PLEASE CALL THE RO GUNTA HEYDEN OR I NELSON I SCHEPPER TATE I COSDEN I I SMOKED AND CARRIED ON TO THE NEXT POSITION AS A TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE. THIS PARTICULAR COMMITTEE IS HELD BY FIVE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND ONE ALTERNATE CURRENTLY COUNCIL MEMBER DELSON COUNCIL MEMBER SHEPHERD MYSELF COUNCIL MEMBER HEYDEN AND COUNCIL MEMBER LONG ARE THE FIVE MEMBERS ON THE TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE WITH COUNCIL MEMBER COSDEN AS A ALTERNATE I JUST WANT TO REMIND EVERYONE THAT WHOMEVER IS ON THIS PARTICULAR BOARD AS A VOTING MEMBER THOSE FIVE INDIVIDUALS THOSE FIVE INDIVIDUALS HAVE BEEN IN THE PAST ON THE METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION AS WELL. SO I JUST WANTED TO TO MENTION THAT SO FROM MYSELF I WOULD ASK TO STILL BE ON THE TRANSPORT AND ADVISORY COMMITTEE. ANYONE ELSE LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE A COUNCIL MEMBER COSDEN MAYOR AND WHAT YOU JUST READ DOESN'T MATCH WHAT I HAVE IT RIGHT IN THE BACK UP SO I'M WONDERING IF WE HAVE DIFFERENT INFORMATION. WHAT DO YOU HAVE ON HERE? I HAVE WELSH AS A MEMBER AND LONG AS AN ALTERNATE NOT ME ON THE LIST. OK, WELL WE MAY HAVE MADE THAT CHANGE THE MAYBE THE LIST THAT I HAVE TO SAY ODORLESS. SO YOU HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER LONG AS AN ALTERNATE AND WELL AS A VOTING MEMBER WELSH OK IS THAT CORRECT? OK AND I WANTED TO ASK IF I COULD SWITCH WITH COUNCIL MEMBER LONG AND GIVE HIM THE SPOT AND TAKE THE ALTERNATE. I'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. HOW DO YOU THINK IS ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO BE ON THAT PARTICULAR BOARD MEMBER MOTION TO APPROVE NELSON AS THE ALTERNATE SHEPHERD GUNTER HEYDEN AND WELSCH AND LONG AND OK DO I HAVE A SECOND TICKET? OK MADAM CITY CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL GUNTER PAYDEN OH I NELSON SHEPHERD TATE I COSDEN I ALLIES MOTION CARRIED OK WE HAVE THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT BLOCK GRANT COMMITTEE COUNCIL MEMBER WELSCH IS CURRENTLY THE LIAISON. DO WE HAVE A NOMINATION OR A VOLUNTEER FOR THAT PARTICULAR MOTION TO APPROVE COUNCIL MEMBER LS THERE ANY DISCUSSION ANY OTHER VOLUNTEERS SYNANON COUNCIL. I'M SORRY MADAM CITY CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ENTER I PAYDEN HI NELSON HI SHEPHERD TATE I COSDEN I ALWAYS MOTION CARRIED OK THE COMMUNITY REDEVELOPMENT AGENCY THAT PARTICULARLY IS ON POSITION IS HELD BY COUNCIL MEMBER TATE. LAST YEAR WE HAD A PUT COUNCIL MEMBER WELSCH AS A ALTERNATE BUT I WILL SAY THAT I KNOW WE NEVER HAD AN ALTERNATE ON THAT PARTICULAR BOARD SO I DON'T REALLY KNOW IF THERE'S A NEED FOR THAT BUT THAT'S WHAT WE DID LAST YEAR WHICH WAS DIFFERENT THAN THE PREVIOUS YEARS AND ALSO I HAVE A LETTER SINCE COUNCIL MEMBER WELSH'S IS AN ATTENDING UH HE STATED IN HIS LETTER THAT HE HAD A DESIRE NOT TO BE THE ALTERNATE BUT HE DID HAVE A DESIRE TO BE THE LIAISON . SO I WANTED TO MENTION THAT PUT THAT RECORD. SO AT THIS TIME I'LL OPEN UP FOR ANY NOMINEES. >> MAYOR, THE ONLY THING I WOULD LIKE TO SAY ABOUT THAT IS HAVING BEEN THE LIAISON IN THE LAST YEAR BECAUSE IT FALLS IN MY DISTRICT IT IS EXTREMELY BENEFICIAL FOR FUTURE COUNCILS AS WELL FOR THE PERSON WHO IS REPRESENTING DISTRICT ONE TO BE THE SCIARRA IT KIND OF KEEPS EVERYTHING THE INFORMATION FLOWING. SO I DON'T MIND SERVING IN THAT POSITION. I APPRECIATE THAT. BUT IT WOULD BE AT THE WORLD COUNCIL. YEAH, I AGREE. I MEAN I I HELD THAT THE LIAISON POSITION MYSELF WHEN I WAS THE DISTRICT ONE COUNCIL MEMBER AND I THINK IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT FOR THE DISTRICT ONE COUNCIL MEMBER TO BE THE LIAISON THAT'S THEIR BACKYARD AND I THINK FOR THAT REASON THAT THE THE DISTRICT ONE REPRESENTATIVE SHOULD BE THE LIAISON. >> SO I WOULD SUPPORT THAT MOTION TO IMPROVE COUNCILOR TATE AS A LIAISON TO THE RIGHT AND REMOVE WEIGHT AND REMOVE THE ALTERNATE ROLE UNLESS YOU GUYS KNOW TO REMOVE THE ULTIMATE ROLE. >> OK, WHO WAS THE SECOND I I SECOND IT BUT I DON'T KNOW IF I'M THE AND I AGREE IF I AM OK WE HAVE TWO SECONDS AND THEY BOTH AGREE. OK GREAT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION SEE A MADAM CITY CLERK PLEASE GO TO THE ROAD GUNTUR ALL RIGHT HAYDEN ALL RIGHT NELSON I SHEPHERD I I COSDEN I I MOTION CARRIED WE HAVE TO GO OF COURSE. >> ADVISORY BOARD COUNCIL MEMBER HAYDEN IS CURRENTLY THE LIAISON AS HE MENTIONED EARLY HE WOULD PREFER TO STAY ON THAT PARTICULAR MOTION TO APPROVE COUNCIL MEMBER HAYDEN THE GOLF COURSE ADVISORY COUNCIL MEMBER COSDEN I NOTED THAT YOU MUST DISTRICTING COMMISSION BECAUSE YOU HAVE AN OLDER YEAH PROBABLY YEAH. SO CAN WE DO THAT ONE AFTER THIS? YES, MA'AM. OK, ANYONE ELSE THAT WANTS TO BE ON THE I MADE A MOTION WAS SECOND OK ANY DISCUSSION CNN MADAM SPEAKER PLEASE CALL THE CANTARE I HATED NELSON SHEPHERD I COSDEN I ALLIES MOTION CARRIED AND THEN WE'RE DOING THE DISTRICT COMMISSION. YES. OH HERE OK DISTRICT COMMISSIONER APPARENTLY THAT'S GOING TO BE A NEW BOARD THAT'S COMING UP FOR AND THAT PARTICULAR POSITION IS VACANT NOW. SO DO WE HAVE ANYONE THAT WOULD LIKE TO SERVE ON THE DISTRICT COMMISSION BOARD? I WOULD LOVE TO. OK, ANYBODY ELSE LISTEN TO APPROVE SECOND COSDEN I MEAN SECOND OK. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? >> UH, MADAM CITY CLERK, I SEE YOUR LIGHT ON. I JUST WANTED TO ADD THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED MON'S FOR THE MEETINGS AND THE LATE AFTERNOON THE FIRST MEETING IS SET FOR THE FIFTEENTH AT THREE O'CLOCK . THAT WORK FOR YOU COUNCIL MEMBER DOES GREAT. WE HAVE A MOTION THE SECOND ON THE FLOOR MADAM CITY CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROPE GUNTER HEYDEN UH LONG UH NELSON SHEPHERD UH TATE I COSDEN I ALLIES MOTION CARRIED OK NEXT UH WE HAD THE WATERWAY ADVISORY BOARD MOTION TO APPROVE REMEMBER LONG ABOUT PLANNING AND ZONING. WE'LL GO BACK. OH SORRY. OK, SECOND SO I'M SORRY WITH ALL THE ALL THE CHATTER I MISSED THE MOTION I KNOW WAS KEEPING YOU BUSY IN MOTION TO APPROVE COUNCIL MEMBER ALLOWING FOR THE WATER ADVISORY BOARD. OK, WE HAD A SECOND SECOND DYNAMIC SECOND FROM OK YOU'RE GOING TO MISS ME UP HERE. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER ANYONE ELSE THAT WOULD LIKE TO VOLUNTEER MR. COUNCIL MEMBER SHEPARD YOU HAVE A DESIRE. OK, ALL RIGHT. WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND CITY CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL GUNTER I HEYDEN I I NELSON SHEPHERD UH COSDEN ALLIES MOTION CARRIED THE NEXT PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION . AS OF NOW WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER SHEPHERD UH NOTED AS THE LIAISON WITH COUNCIL MEMBER AGAIN I THINK THIS WAS ANOTHER BOARD THAT TYPICALLY WE ONLY HAD ONE LIAISON AND WE ADDED AN ALTERNATE LAST YEAR. SO I GUESS WE CAN DISCUSS THIS COUNCIL IF WE JUST WANT A LIAISON POSITION OR WE WANT A LIAISON AN ALTERNATE. BUT I WILL OPEN THE FLOOR UP FOR THE LIAISON POSITION WHERE THEY ALTERNATE MEMBERS SEPETYS DON'T WANT TO STAY ON I'M SORRY THIS COUNCIL MEMBER SHEPPARDS STILL WANT TO STAY ON. >> YEAH THE MOTION TO APPROVE COUNCILMAN FOR THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMISSION AND IF WE DON'T NEED AN ALTERNATE THEN THAT'S IN MY MOTION OK THE SECOND GROUP YES OK ANY OTHER DISCUSSION CNN MANAM PLEASE CALL THE ROLL GUNTUR I HEYDEN I NELSON I SHEPARD TATE I COSDEN I LIKE MOTION CARRY AND OUR NEXT COMMITTEE IS THE COASTAL AND HEARTLAND NATIONAL ESTUARY PARTNERSHIP. PRESENTLY COUNCIL MEMBER LAW IS ON THAT PARTICULAR COMMITTEE AS A LIAISON COUNCIL MEMBER LONG DO YOU WANT TO CONTINUE THAT? YES. MOTION TO APPROVE COUNCIL MEMBER FOR THE COASTAL AND HEARTLAND NATIONAL ESTUARY PROGRAM. OK MADAM PLEASE CALL THE ROLL CENTER I HEYDEN UH NELSON UH SHEPHERD UH TATE UH COSDEN. >> OUR ALLIES MOTION CARRIED THE NEXT ITEM WE HAVE IS THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES VOTING DELEGATE. AS OF RIGHT NOW I AM THE VOTING DELEGATE AND I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE THAT. I WILL JUST MENTION TO COUNSEL FOR THE FUTURE THAT THAT APPOINTMENT WITH THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES BASICALLY STARTS IN SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR TO AUGUST OF NEXT. SO WE KIND OF HAD THIS ISSUE WITH ONE COUNCIL MEMBER. WILLIAMS WAS THERE IF YOU WANT TO MAKE CHANGE, THAT CHANGE THEORETICALLY WOULD HAVE TO HAPPEN IN APRIL. SO I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT THAT WAY MAYBE MADAM CITY CLERK, IF YOU COULD BRING THAT UP IN OUR APRIL MEETING BECAUSE THAT WOULD BE THE TIME AS A COUNCIL WE WOULD MAKE A RECOMMENDATION TO THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES FOR THE SEPTEMBER MEETING MOTION TO APPROVE MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBER HAYDEN IS THE ALTERNATE ALTERNATE SECOND. OK, WE HAVE A MOTION IN THE SECOND ALTERNATE KNOW I HAVE BEEN YES. OK. YEAH YEAH YEAH I UNDERSTAND. OK AND NO FURTHER DISCUSSION. MADAM CITY CLERK CALL THE ROAD GUNTA I NELSON I SHEPHERD I I COSDEN I I'LL MOTION CARRIE OK FLORIDA LEGAL CITY'S BOARD OF DIRECTORS THAT SAME METHODOLOGY IS ALSO PRESENT WITH THIS POSITION IT HAS TO BE TALKED ABOUT PROBABLY IN OUR APRIL MEETING AND MAKE A RECOMMENDATION FOR ANY CHANGE FOR NEXT SEPTEMBER. SO I WOULD BE WILLING TO STAY ON UNTIL THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF MAYORS ARE GUNTA FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES BOARD OF DIRECTORS MAYOR GUNTUR BECAUSE THEY'RE BOTH THE SAME REALLY SECOND OK AND FURTHER DISCUSSION ON THAT. SO THAT'S TWO DIFFERENT. YEAH, IT'S TWO DIFFERENT BOARDS YOU GOT TO DO ONE FOR THE OTHER SO THEY GO INTO THE SAME PLACE? I THINK SO. ALL RIGHT. UH, WE HAVE A MOTION THE SECOND COULD YOU PLEASE GO THE ROAD GUNTA I PAYDEN ALL RIGHT NOW UH NELSON SHEPARD TATE UH COSDEN. I AND THE OTHER THING I JUST MENTIONED THE COUNCIL I WAS RECENTLY APPOINTED TO THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF MAYORS BOARD OF DIRECTORS AS WELL. THAT PARTICULAR POSITION COINCIDES WITH THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES AS WELL. SO THAT SAME METHODOLOGY WOULD APPLY. BUT UH, WITH THAT PARTICULAR POSITION YOU DO HAVE TO BE A MAYOR. UM, WE'LL MOVE ON TO THE HORIZON COUNCIL PRESENTLY WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER NELSON AS THE LIAISON AND COUNCIL MEMBER HEYDEN AS ALTERNATE. SO DO THOSE TWO. WE KNOW COUNCIL MEMBER HEYDEN EXPRESSED AN INTEREST TO STAY IN ALL HIS PARTICULAR POSITIONS. COUNCIL MEMBER NELSON, DO YOU HAVE A DESIRE TO STAY ON THAT? I DO AND ESPECIALLY BECAUSE I AM POSITIONED TO BE ON THE EXECUTIVE COMMITTEE OF THE HORIZON COUNCIL AND SERVE ALONGSIDE MAYOR HOLLY SMITH FROM SANABEL. SO I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITY TO IMPROVE COUNCIL MEMBER NELSON AS THE MEMBER FOR THE HORIZON COUNCIL AND COUNCIL MEMBER HEYDEN IS THE ALTERNATE BACK. OK AND DID I HEAR A SECOND FOR THAT MOTION? HELLO. SOMEBODY'S DOWN SECOND. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER HANAN SECONDED ANY OTHER DISCUSSION CNN CITY PLEASE CALL THE ROAD GUNTUR I HEYDEN I NELSON I SHEPHERD I I COSDEN I THIS MOTION VERY CLEAR NEXT UH COMMITTEE IS LEE COUNTY HUMAN SERVICES COUNCIL. I BELIEVE COUNCIL MEMBER COSDEN IS PRESENTLY THE LIAISON ON ON THAT PARTICULAR COMMITTEE I GUESS COUNCIL MEMBER COSDEN DO YOU HAVE A DESIRE TO STAY ON THERE OR DO WE HAVE ANY OTHER VOLUNTEERS FROM COUNCIL I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SAY MOTION TO APPROVE THE KIND OF HUMAN SERVICES COUNCIL COUNCIL MEMBER COSDEN WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND MADAM CITY CLERK PLEASE ENTER AIDEN NELSON SHEPHERD TATE UH COSDEN. I MOTION CARRY BACK THE METROPOLITAN PLANNING ORGANIZATION I MENTIONED EARLY EARLIER TYPICALLY THE INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE VOTING MEMBERS ON THE TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE ARE TYPICALLY THAT. SO I GUESS WE JUST NEED A MOTION UH, MOTION TO APPROVE THE UH ONE QUESTION A WHILE BACK AND WE DIDN'T HAVE SO MANY PEOPLE THAT WERE ABLE TO GO TO A MEETING. WE DISCUSSED HERE THAT EVERYBODY THAT'S ON THIS COUNCIL WOULD BE A MEMBER OF THE MPO AND THEN IF WE NEEDED TO WE WOULD SEND SOMEBODY AS AN ALTERNATE. SO THAT'S STILL THE DEAL. YEAH, I THINK THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD WAS WE WOULD STILL IDENTIFY THE FIVE MEMBERS. RIGHT. BUT WITH THE REMAINING THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD AUTOMATICALLY BE AN ALTERNATE ON THE CAMPAIGN, NOT THE WAY IT'S READING. I'M ONE THE FIVE AND I'M NOT IT'S COSDEN SHEPHERD GUNTUR HEYDEN AND I THINK IT WAS ALONG OR IT COULD YOU MADAM CITY CLERK, COULD YOU CLARIFY WHO IS ON THE TRANSPORTATION ADVISORY COMMITTEE AS THE LIAISON VOTING MEMBERS? >> YES. THIS EVENING YOU APPOINTED COUNCIL MEMBER NELSON AS THE ALTERNATE FOR THE MEMBERS SHEPHERD GUNTUR HEYDEN WELSCH AND LONG RIGHT. >> SO I THINK WE WOULD NEED A MOTION FOR THOSE FIVE VOTING MEMBERS AND THEN POSSIBLY ADD THE REMAINING THREE COUNCIL MEMBERS AS ALTERNATES SOME OF THEM YES SIR. YES, MA'AM. I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. UM, WE HAD A DISCUSSION ABOUT HAVING DIFFERENT MEMBERS ON THIS CCAC VERSUS NAMPO. I WAS ONE OF THE MEMBERS THAT COULD ONLY BE ON THE BOARD AND I WOULD LIKE TO REMAIN A REGULAR MEMBER OF THE BOARD. I THINK MAYBE THAT'S WHERE COUNCIL MEMBER IS OK, I'M NOT SURE BUT I WOULD LIKE TO AND I NEED TO BE ACTUALLY SO THAT I CAN CHAIR THE LOCAL COORDINATING BOARD, OK TO BE A MEMBER OF THE ALL RIGHT. SO LET'S JUST OPEN THAT BACK UP FOR DISCUSSION THEN. >> UH, MADAM UH, CITY CLERK, COULD YOU MENTION THE FIVE PEOPLE THAT ARE ON THE CASE AGAIN SHEPHERD GUENTER HEYDEN WEALTH AND SO WHAT I HAVE BUT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT NOW AREN'T WE? YES. OK, RIGHT I JUST WANTED TO SEE WHO WAS ON THE OTHER END. >> YOU NEED FIVE FOR THE NPL? YES MA'AM WE DO. OK SO IT WOULD BE COSDEN SHEPHERD GUNTUR HEYDEN AND LONG AND ELSE WOULD BE THE ALTERNATE BECAUSE HE'S BEEN THE ALTERNATIVE BEFORE. ALL RIGHT. SO IS THAT A MOTION THAT IS SECOND, SECOND AND THE OTHER DISCUSSION THAT I'M CITY CLERK PLEASE GO THE ROW UH ONE POINT OF CLARIFICATION. I KNOW THAT YOU JUST IN THE MOTION PUT WELSH AS THE ALTERNATE ARE THE OTHER TWO REMAINING MEMBERS OF COUNCIL ALTERNATES? YES. WELL, THAT'S WHAT WE DISCUSSED . THANK YOU GUENTER I AN HOUR LONG NELSON SHEPHERD UH I COSDEN I MENTIONED OK WITH THE NEXT UH COMMITTEE IS THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES. UH WE HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER WELSCH AND COUNCIL MEMBER NELSON IS AN ALTERNATE CURRENTLY AND I WILL OPEN THE FLOOR UP FOR ANY NOMINATIONS OR ANY VOLUNTEER AND I HAVE COUNCILMAN COSDEN LIGHT ON. >> THANK YOU. IN THE PAST I DID AT LEAST ONE OR TWO YEARS I WAS A REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES AND I WOULD LOVE TO DO IT AGAIN THIS YEAR AND MAKE A MOTION TO ADD COUNCIL MEMBER COSDEN AS THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES MEMBER AND COUNCIL MEMBER NELSON IS THE ULTRANET GREAT SECOND I SECOND THAT OK SECOND ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION OK CNN WE HAVE A MOTION IN SECOND MADAM CITY PLEASE CALL THE ROAD ENTER HAYDEN RIGHT NOW NELSON SHEPHERD TATE I COSDEN I ALWAYS MOTION CARRIED UH NEXT ON THE AGENDA IS A SOUTHWEST FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES. I'M CURRENTLY THE 30 MEMBER AND COUNCIL MEMBER. HAYDEN IS THE ALTERNATE CHINTA APPROVED. GUNTUR IS THE MEMBER AND COUNCIL MEMBER. HANAN IS THE ALTERNATE FOR SOUTHWEST US CITIES. IS THAT WHAT YOU WANT ME TO ENTER? >> THAT'S FINE. I MEAN I WILL SAY THAT THE SOUTHWEST FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES AND THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES THEY DEFINITELY INTERTWINE. YEAH, I WILL SAY THAT THERE HAS BEEN TIMES THAT I WAS NOT ABLE TO ATTEND BECAUSE OF OTHER COMMITMENTS AND COUNCIL MEMBER HAYDEN HAS GRACIOUSLY ATTENDED MY BEHALF. SO I THINK BETWEEN HE AND I WILL MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE GOT TO REPRESENT A TEAM WE MAKE YEAH GREAT TEAM SO WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND AND I'M CITY CLERK. PLEASE CALL THE ROLL CENTER. I HAYDEN I I NELSON SHEPHERD I COSDEN I MENTIONED GARY AND THE LAST ONE THAT'S ON THE LIST BUT PRESENTLY WE DO NOT HAVE ANY REPRESENTATION IS THE TOURIST DEVELOPMENT COUNCIL. WE GET THAT REPRESENTATION I WILL TELL YOU THAT I HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH COMMISSIONER WAYNE TO TRY TO GET US BACK ON THAT PARTICULAR COMMITTEE SO I'M HOPING THAT WILL HOPEFULLY TRANSPIRE BY THE BEGINNING OF THE YEAR. GOOD BECAUSE I WOULD LOVE TO SERVE IN THAT AND GET US BACK ON THERE AT LEAST. THANK YOU AND ONCE WE GET THOSE DETAILS WORKED OUT, I WILL BRING THAT BACK TO COUNCIL FOR DOING THAT. OK AND THANK MADAM CITY CLERK IT LOOKS LIKE RECOVERED UH EVERYTHING UNLESS I MISSED SOMETHING I THINK WE CAN HAVE IT ALL FOR THAT. THANK YOU MA'AM. ALL RIGHT. >> SEATTLE YES. >> ALL RIGHT. THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA IS OUR MEETING CALENDAR. UH, I KNOW IT WAS IN OUR BACKUP MATERIAL. I JUST MENTIONED THAT THE CITY MANAGER MYSELF WOULD HAVE A DISCUSSION ON THE ON THE CALENDAR FOR NEXT YEAR. WE PRETTY MUCH HE HAD A PREFERENCE TO MAKE SURE WE HAD A COUNCIL MEETING ON THE FOURTH WEDNESDAY OF THE MONTH THROUGHOUT THE YEAR UNLESS WE WERE ON HIATUS. BUT THAT PARTICULAR ITEM ON THE SCHEDULE WAS KNOWN AS NEED BASIS AND I THINK IT DOES NOTE THAT IN OUR SCHEDULE UM MR. CITY MANAGER WOULD LIKE TO ELABORATE FURTHER ON THAT. NO, MR. MAYOR, I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD. >> OK, THANK YOU. SO I THINK IT'S EASIER TO HAVE IT ON THE SCHEDULE WHEN IT BECOMES A TIME WE DON'T NEED, WE JUST REMOVE IT. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, THE WE DON'T HAVE ANY FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION. DO WE HAVE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE TWENTY TWENTY TWO CALENDAR AS PRESENTED SECOND I GUESS THAT ALL RIGHT. I'M TIRED. I'M SORRY. SO WHO WAS FIRST COSDEN AND BY NELSON. ALL RIGHT ALL RIGHT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION SO YOU KNOW MADAM CITY CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL GUNTUR I HEYDEN I NELSON I SHEFFORD I HATE COSDEN I ALWAYS MENTION CARRIED OK WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM THIRTEEN REPORTS UH COUNCIL MEMBER HEY REPORT YOU DON'T GET TO TALK ABOUT RHUM TOO MUCH UP HERE BUT I GET TO TONIGHT AS WE PAY TRIBUTE TO OUR SPECIAL VETERANS TONIGHT I ALSO WANT TO MENTION AND CONTINUING WITH THAT THEME AT WORK THE DOLPHIN HAS PARTNERED WITH THE BROTHERHOOD OF HEROES MILITARY MUSEUM AND RESOURCE CENTER TO PUT OUT A COMMEMORATIVE ROM THAT WILL BE AVAILABLE STARTING NEXT TUESDAY AND ALL PROCEEDS FROM THAT ROOM WILL GO BACK TO THE MILITARY MUSEUM TO HELP OUR VETERANS. SO JUST AGAIN, AN OUTSTANDING EFFORT BY WICKED DOLPHIN AND WHAT THEY DO FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND IT'S A TREMENDOUS HONOR FOR FOR OUR VETERANS. SO THANK YOU THAT'S ALL. THANK YOU, SIR. COUNCIL MEMBER LONG REPORT NO PROBLEM. COUNCIL MEMBER NELSON. UM, FIRST OF ALL, I ATTENDED THE UNITED WAY BREAKFAST THIS MORNING, THE KICKOFF FOR THE CAMPAIGN AND I WAS PLEASANTLY SURPRISED AND HAPPY TO SEE THAT WE ARE A CITY OF CAPE CORAL IS NOW A TRENDSETTER AS WE GENERATED AROUND FORTY THOUSAND DOLLARS LAST YEAR FROM OUR UNITED WAY CAMPAIGN AND IN PREVIOUS YEARS WE WERE TRENDING AT ABOUT 10000 TO 11000 ANNUALLY FOR OUR CAMPAIGN. SO WE HAD A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE AND I WANTED TO THANK ALL OF THE STAFF THAT WORKED ON THAT LAST YEAR. BUT HERE WE ARE WITH THIS YEAR. LAST YEAR DURING THE CAMPAIGN I HOSTED FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE NEW BREAKFAST TACO TUESDAY WHEN I MET WITH THE CITY MANAGER TODAY HE TOLD ME THAT I AM ALLOWED TO HOST THAT AGAIN FOR OUR EMPLOYEES AND ANYBODY ELSE THAT WANTS TO ORDER BREAKFAST TACOS. ALL I I PAY FOR ALL THE SUPPLIES TO MAKE THE BREAKFAST TACOS. I HAVE TO DEAR FRIENDS PAMELA CRONAN AND JAY JOHNSON HAVE WILL COME AND HELP ME SERVE. THEY BOTH OWNED RESTAURANTS AND SO I WILL BE HOSTING THAT AGAIN I'M LOOKING AT THE DATE OF DECEMBER 7TH SO I HAVE PERMISSION FROM THE CITY MANAGER TO WORK WITH STAFF TO GET THE WORD OUT ABOUT THIS. SO JUST GIVING YOU A HEADS UP THEY'RE REALLY GOOD. AND THEN CONNIE HAD PASSED OUT AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETING THE EDISON FESTIVAL OF LIGHT SPONSORSHIP AND YOU MAY SAY WHY ARE YOU BLACK? WHY DO WE HAVE THIS THIS IS IN FORT MYERS. SO I WAS APPROACHED TWO WEEKS GO BY TWO COMMITTEE MEMBERS FOR THE EDISON FESTIVAL LIGHTS TO SEE THE CITY OF CAPE CALL WOULD LIKE TO PARTNER AND PARTICIPATE AS A SPONSOR FOR THIS EVENT. IT'S A IT'S A SEVERAL HOUR EVENT. THERE'S A VIP EVENT. THERE'S OF COURSE A PARADE. THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO HAVE A BOOTH DEPENDING ON WHAT SPONSORSHIP LEVEL WE LOOK AT. I SPOKE WITH KEVIN ANDERSON ON SUNDAY. WE WERE AT A JOINT EVENT TOGETHER. WE HAVE SOME MUTUAL FRIENDS AND AND I HAD ASKED HIM AND THE COMMITTEE MEMBERS WHAT THE SPONSORSHIP WAS FOR THE CITY OF FORT MYERS. THEY DO AROUND FIVE THOUSAND SIX HUNDRED DOLLARS IN SPONSORSHIP IN THE FORM OF A GRANT AND IN THE PAST THIS PARADE THE MAYORS ALWAYS RIDE IN THE PARADE IF WE DO AGREE AS A COUNCIL THAT WE WANT TO SPONSOR THIS EVENT, THEY HAVE AGREED TO LET US AS WELL IF WE WANT TO RIDE IN THE PARADE OR ATTEND THE VIP EVENT, WE CAN CERTAINLY DO THAT. I THINK YOU KNOW, THE REASON THEY ASKED ME IS I KNOW IS BECAUSE I KNOW THAT WE HAVE A JOINT PROJECT COMING UP WITH THE WATER PIPELINE AND SINCE THE MAYOR HAS ALWAYS ASKED OTHER ELECTED OFFICIALS TO PARTICIPATE, THEY CAME TO ME AND SAID WOULDN'T IT BE A GREAT OPPORTUNITY TO SHOW COLLABORATION AND PARTNERSHIP BY SUPPORTING THIS EVENT? SO MY COMMENT BACK WAS GREAT. WHAT EVENT WILL YOU ALL SUPPORT WITH BECAUSE WE HAVE SEVERAL SO THAT'S SOMETHING DOWN THE ROAD. I SAID I WOULD PRESENT IT DURING MY REPORT SO I'M PRESENTING YOU KNOW, I OBVIOUSLY YOU IF WE IF WE WANT TO DO THIS GREAT. YOU KNOW, IF YOU GUYS SAY NO WE DON'T WE DON'T WANT TO DO THIS THEN THAT'S OK TOO. BUT I THOUGHT I WOULD PRESENT I WAS ASKED TO THANK YOU MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER COSDEN I JUST HAVE A QUESTION OR ANY OTHER CITIES SPONSORING THAT YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF THE COUNTY SPONSORS OR NOT. I DIDN'T CHECK THAT I DIDN'T ASK THAT QUESTION. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THIS THIS EDISON FESTIVAL MIGHT GET OUT OF COMMITTEE BOARD DOES IS THEY OFFER EDUCATIONAL PROGRAMS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU'RE AWARE OF THAT STEREOTACTIC IS ONE OF THEIR BIG ONES. THEY DO THE INVENTORS FAIR WHICH ALSO INCLUDES KIDS FROM CAPE CORAL AND THEY ALSO GIVE SCHOLARSHIPS AND THEY GIVE THEM COUNTY WIDE AND I WASN'T ABLE TO GET THE NUMBER OF RECIPIENTS FROM CAPE CORAL FROM LAST YEAR OR THE YEAR BEFORE THE THEY JUST DIDN'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION AVAILABLE FOR ME WHEN I ASKED. BUT IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT CAPE CORAL STUDENTS I MEAN IT'S COUNTY WIDE SO THEY'VE WON THESE SCHOLARSHIPS BEFORE SO OUR SPONSORSHIP WOULD GO TO FUNDING THOSE PROGRAMS FOR CHILDREN THAT YOU KNOW I KNOW PIPER'S INVOLVED IN THE INVENTORS FAIR A FEW YEARS AGO THAT SEVERAL OTHER CAPE CORAL STUDENTS DO AS WELL AND THE QUESTION I GUESS IT'S FOR THE CITY MANAGER DOES THE CITY SPONSOR EVENTS WE DON'T EVEN SPONSOR A BIT OBVIOUSLY OUR OWN I THINK THE SHORT ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION IS YES. OBVIOUSLY WE SPONSOR THE RED WHITE AND BOOM EVENT. OK, THAT'S OK. THAT'S A GOOD EXAMPLE. MY ALL RIGHT. I'M NOT REALLY SURE BUT THANK YOU FOR THE INFORMATION. YEAH. SO WE WOULD JUST NEED TO DECIDE IF WE WANT TO SPONSOR OR NOT. IF YOU WANT TIME TO THINK ABOUT IT WE CAN TALK ABOUT IN OUR NEXT BOATING MEETING THE EVENT I THINK IT'S IN FEBRUARY SO YEAH FEBRUARY AND LIKE I SAID, IT'S IT'S A PRETTY INVOLVED EVENT. I KNOW COUNTY COMMISSIONERS DO ALSO RIDE IN THE PARADE. THEY'RE INVITED BUT WHATEVER YOU GUYS DECIDE I MEAN IT'S JUST I WAS APPROACHED AND I SAID I WOULD ASK AND LIKE I SAID, I MEAN THE THE IDEA IS THAT WE COLLABORATE AND THERE ARE SISTER CITY ACROSS THE BRIDGE OR WHERE THERE'S AND YOU KNOW, IT MIGHT BE A NICE GESTURE AND THEN YOU KNOW, HOPEFULLY THEY RETURN THE FAVOR AND SPONSOR ONE OF OUR EVENTS. >> THANK YOU, MAYOR. THANK YOU. YEAH. I MEAN THE I AGREE THAT COLLABORATION BETWEEN THE TWO CITIES IS IMPORTANT AS YOU KNOW WE DO HAVE PROJECTS BUT WHAT I WOULD YOU KNOW THAT WE WORK ON TOGETHER ONE THING THAT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IS MAYBE SOME MORE INFORMATION TO SEE IF THE COUNTY PARTICIPATES IN THIS PARTICULAR EVENT. ANY OTHER CITIES YOU MENTIONED THE THE GRANT I THINK THAT THE CITY OF FORT MYERS PROVIDES MAYBE GETS MORE INFORMATION ON THAT AND MAYBE IN OUR NEXT MEETING YOU COULD BRING THAT THAT INFORMATION BACK TO US. HAPPY. SO WE HAVE A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION AND INSIGHT OF EXACTLY WHAT OUR MONIES WOULD BE DOING. AND I THINK IF WE HAD THAT INFORMATION THEN I WOULD PROBABLY BE A LITTLE MORE AT EASE TO TO ENTERTAIN THIS POSSIBILITY AND I WILL TRY TO SEE IF THEY CAN COLLECT THE SPECIFIC INFORMATION OF HOW MANY SCHOLARSHIPS OR PARTICIPANTS THEY HAD IN THEIR INVENTORS FAIR AS WELL AS THE STEM TACTIC AND SCHOLARSHIPS. OK, NO PROBLEM. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER COMMENTS ON THAT PARTICULAR TOPIC? >> OK, UH LOOKS LIKE WE SKIPPED OVER THE PARKS AND RECREATION LIAISON'S. IT'S CURRENTLY HELD BY COUNCIL MEMBER WELSCH SO WE WILL NEED TO OPEN THAT UP AS WELL. SO DO WE HAVE ANY VOLUNTEERS FOR THAT PARTICULAR POSITION OR DO WE HAVE A MOTION THAT I WOULD MAKE A MOTION TO HAVE COUNCIL MEMBER WELLS I KNOW HE SAID THAT HE'D BEEN WORKING ON THAT SO MAKE A MOTION FOR HIM AND ANY DISCUSSION WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. MADAM CITY CLERK, COULD YOU CALL THE ROLL PLEASE? GUNTER I HEYDEN I KNOW NELSON HI SHEPARD TATE I COSDEN I I MOTION CARRIED. >> THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBER NELSON WERE YOU DONE IN YOUR REPORT? YES SIR. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. YOU'RE WELCOME. AND COUNCIL MEMBER SHEPARD REPORT THE REPORT COUNCIL MEMBER. YES. JUST TO GIVE YOU AN UPDATE ON THE INSURANCE, I THINK YOU ALL GOT EMAILS TODAY ON THE UPDATE BILL THAT HAS BEEN FILED BY SENATOR RUBIO FOR THE BIPARTISAN LEGISLATION TO REAUTHORIZE THE NATIONAL FLOOD INSURANCE PROGRAM. THERE ARE THREE LETTERS THAT OUR BEKKER POLAKOFF AMANDA WOOD WROTE TODAY AS SAMPLE LETTERS TO GIVE TO THE MAYOR TO SEND OUT TO DONALD SCOTT AND RUBIO ESPECIALLY TO DONALDS TO ENCOURAGE HIM TO GET ON BOARD TO THIS. SO I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION THAT THIS COUNCIL APPROVE THE MAYOR OF SENDING THE LETTERS, SIGNING THE LETTERS AND SENDING THE LETTERS. I'LL SECOND THAT MOTION ANY DISCUSSION I'M CITY CLERK PLEASE CALL CENTER HEYDEN I I NELSON I CHAPATI I COSDEN ALL MOTION CARRIED OK AND THEN SPEAKING OF EVENTS CATCH THE VISION. THE ELEVENTH ANNUAL CATCH THE VISION EVENT IS TUESDAY NIGHT AT FIVE O'CLOCK IS THE TRADE SHOW SIX FIFTEEN IS THE PROGRAM AT CAPE CHRISTIAN FELLOWSHIP OPEN TO THE PUBLIC YOU CAN BUY TICKETS AT CATCH THE VISION CAPE CORAL DOT AND DON'T FORGET THE VETERANS DAY PARADE SINCE WE DID A BEAUTIFUL TRIBUTE TO VETERANS TODAY IT IS ELEVEN ELEVEN AT ELEVEN AND I THINK ALL OF US ARE GOING TO BE IN ATLANTA. BIONDI AND HER TEAM AND PARKS ARE DOING AN AMAZING JOB PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. THERE ARE HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF PEOPLE ALL SIX BANDS. THIS WILL BE THE FIRST TIME ALL SIX BANDS EVER PERFORM IN THE PARADE AND THEN WE HAVE ALL THE ARTISTS FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTY. SO THIS IS A TRUE BRING THEM ACROSS THE BRIDGE KIND OF EVENT. SO I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THE VETERANS DAY PARADE SPECIAL OPS IS MAKING BOWS AND THEY ARE ADORABLE FIVE FOUR TWENTY DOLLARS SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY TO DECORATE WITH THE BOWS TO GET THEM FROM SPECIAL POPS. THEY'RE SO CUTE AND IT'S REALLY A GREAT WAY TO BRIGHTEN UP OUR CITY AND I THINK THAT'S ALL I HAVE TO REMEMBER. I KNOW THAT YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS FOR A WHILE AND YOU AND I BOTH PARTICIPATED IN THE EVENT YESTERDAY AT THE SCHOOL BOARD. WHY DON'T YOU BRING US UP TO SPEED? OH, I WAS GOING TO LET YOU DO IT OK? WELL WE DID GO TO THE SCHOOL BOARD YESTERDAY AND I WANT TO THANK PATRICK MELISSA EVERYBODY WAS THERE ASSISTANT CITY MANAGER BARRON SUPPORTED US. IT WAS A LITTLE DIFFICULT. IT WAS CHALLENGING. I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE WALKED AWAY WITH NOT GETTING SUPPORT BUT IT WAS CONFUSING AND THEIR VOTE IN THE END. SO I DO BELIEVE THAT WE MAY HAVE SOME SUPPORT ON THE BACK SIDE AND THAT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO WORK FORWARD. AND I KNOW THE MAYOR HAS SOMETHING TO ADD TO THAT WITH REPRESENTATIVE GENE LOMBARDO SO I'LL LET HIM PICK IT UP SO IT WASN'T A WIN BUT I WOULDN'T SAY IT WAS A TOTAL LOSS EITHER. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER COSDEN. >> THANK YOU. JUST ONE THING I'M REQUESTING CONCURRENCE TO DIRECT THE CITY MANAGER TO ADD TO A FUTURE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING A TOPIC AT HIS DISCRETION. THE TOPIC IS ADDING A NEW USE TO OUR ZONING INDOOR FARMING AND DECIDING WHICH ZONING DESIGNATIONS TO ALLOW THIS NEW USE. I HAD SOMEONE REACH OUT TO ME. THEY WERE INTERESTED THAT AND IT'S NOT ALLOWED IN CAPE CORAL UNDER ANY OF OUR ZONING DESIGNATIONS. SO I THOUGHT WE SHOULD BE PROGRESSIVE AND JUST AT LEAST CONSIDER IT AND SEE WHAT OTHER CITIES DO AND HAVE STAFF DO SOME RESEARCH. AND WHAT WAS THE TOPIC? COULD YOU EXPLAIN THAT OUR INDOOR FARMING INDOOR FARMING I THINK THIS PERSON WANTED MUSHROOMS INSIDE. I WAS THINKING SOMETHING ELSE. ME TOO. I WOULD HAVE JUST SAID IT IF IT WAS IF IT WAS CANNABIS. NOW THIS IS JUST INDOOR FARMING IN GENERAL PRODUCE BUT HAVE PLACES WHERE YOU COULD DO IT ON THE RESIDENTIAL RIGHT. SO IT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD LOOK INTO IT. YEAH THAT WAS JUST SOMETHING THAT YOU'RE REQUESTING TO WORK WITH STAFF WITH AND THAT'S THE SECOND YOU'RE LOOKING FOR I YES. SO WE CAN TALK ABOUT IT AT A MEETING TO SEE EVEN SOMETHING WE WANT TO GOT UP FOR DISCUSSION. ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT MR. CITY MANAGER? THANK YOU. OK, THANK YOU. ANYTHING ELSE? THAT'S ALL I HAVE. OK I'LL TRY TO BE QUICK MINE FIRST OFF BEFORE I MOVE INTO MY REPORT I JUST WANTED TO MENTION ELABORATE A LITTLE MORE ON WHAT COUNCIL MEMBER TATE SAID WITH THE MEETING YESTERDAY. I WILL SAY THAT THE MEETING THE TONE OF THE MEETING WAS THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE A DESIRE TO SHARE THE SALES TAX. WE WILL BE GETTING A FORMAL RESPONSE FROM THE BOARD SOMETIME IN THE NEAR FUTURE AND ONCE WE GET THAT OF COURSE THAT ALL THAT WILL BE SHARED WITH THE COUNCIL. I DID SPEAK WITH THE CITY ATTORNEY TODAY TO GET SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION FOR US AND ALSO TO LAY OUT WHAT OUR OPTIONS COULD BE IN THE FUTURE . SO SHE'LL BE GETTING BACK WITH US ON THAT ON THAT PARTICULAR TOPIC. SO I JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT AS FAR AS THE REPORT THURSDAY, OCTOBER 21ST, I ATTENDED THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE AFTER HOURS EVENT FRIDAY THE TWENTY SECOND I ATTENDED RISE IN COUNCIL INDUSTRY APPRECIATION AWARDS SEVERAL COUNCIL MEMBERS ALSO ON FRIDAY THE TWENTY SECOND I ATTENDED THE THIRTY SIX ANNUAL OPENING CEREMONY OF OCTOBER FEST. FIRST TIME I PARTICIPATED IN THAT THAT WAS A GREAT EVENT TO TO ATTEND ALSO ON OCTOBER TWENTY THIRD I ATTENDED THE BLUE LINE BEYER'S EVENT ON OCTOBER TWENTY SIX I WAS A GUEST SPEAKER AND ALSO SEVERAL MEMBERS OF COUNCIL ALSO ATTENDED THE CEREMONY FOR THE JOE COVIELLO PARK GROUNDBREAKING ALSO ATTENDED THE CHARTER REVIEW COMMISSION MEETING ON THE TWENTY SEVENTH ALSO ON THE TWENTY SEVENTH I ATTENDED THE RETIREMENT CELEBRATION FOR DEPUTY CHIEF LISA BARNES ON THE TWENTY NINTH WAS A GUEST SPEAKER OF A GROUNDBREAKING CEREMONY AT SANES NEIGHBORHOOD PARK. I ALSO ATTENDED ON THE TWENTY NINTH THE PROMOTIONAL CEREMONY FOR THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. FOUR INDIVIDUALS GOT PROMOTED ON THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. ANOTHER GREAT EVENT ALSO AS A GUEST SPEAKER ON NOVEMBER TWENTY ON NOVEMBER 2ND FOR THE NEW RESIDENTS CLUB OF CAPE CORAL BUT IT'S PRETTY THE UH ORGANIZATION I WAS SURPRISED IT WAS AT LEAST ONE HUNDRED AND FIFTY PEOPLE THERE THAT ATTENDED THAT EVENT AND SO UH UH YESTERDAY I ATTENDED THE LEE COUNTY SCHOOL BOARD BRIEFING WITH COUNCIL MEMBER STATE AND MANY MEMBERS OF THE UH UH STAFF . SO I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR FOR PARTICIPATING IN THAT AS WELL. I KNOW NEXT WEEK SEVERAL OF US WILL BE ATTENDING CATCH THE VISION AND THE VETERANS PARADE ALSO I'M LEAVING REAL EARLY TOMORROW MORNING TO ATTEND THE FLORIDA LEAGUE OF CITIES MEETING AND ALSO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS MEETING ON THURSDAY AND FRIDAY. SO THAT'S THAT'S MY REPORT. MISS MENENDEZ, DO YOU HAVE A REPORT? I HAVE NO REPORT, MR. CITY MANAGER. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO REQUEST YOUR CONSIDERATION ON THE ONE PARTICULAR ITEM. SO YOUR NEXT MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR NEXT WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER 10TH. IT WAS ADVERTISED AS A COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING. I'M GOING TO ASK THAT YOU CONSIDER CHANGING YOUR COW MEETING TIME FROM THREE O'CLOCK TO FOUR O'CLOCK AND THAT WE SCHEDULE A EXECUTIVE SESSION FOR THE PURPOSES OF COLLECTIVE BARGAINING DISCUSSION FROM TWO P.M. TO FOUR P.M. THANK YOU, MR. OK. I DON'T I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THAT. THE CONSENSUS TO MOVE THAT MEETING TO FOUR AND THEN HAVE THOSE OTHER TWO MEETINGS. OK, ALL RIGHT. >> THANK YOU, MR. CITY MANAGER . A TIME AND PLACE FOR FUTURE MEETINGS WE HAVE A COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE MEETING IS SCHEDULED FOR WEDNESDAY, NOVEMBER TWENTY TWENTY ONE AT FOUR P.M. NOW AND ALSO WE HAVE A MEETING SCHEDULED ON THAT PARTICULAR DAY ALSO FOR TWO P.M. DO WE HAVE A MOTION FOR GERMAN ALL IN FAVOR SAY I OPPOSE MEETING ADJOURNED