Charlotte City Council Committee Meeting wrap-up - March 3, 2025
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e e [Music] e [Music] can we get everybody here are they on are they I know we're waiting on the coming up for the [Music] okay so um welcome to this meeting this is a day that we actually act in um small groups so that we have the opportunity to address specific issues that are referred to the council so that we can have continuous Improvement and strategy and so today was this day but at the end of this day when we're having all of the work that the community the individual council members have made we try to come together and weave it into something that really works for our community so I'm grateful for that um I think that we'll go ahead and start with our um introductions and we'll start with our clerk Ariel Smith lead city clerk Anthony Fox interim City attorney good evening marer Molina District 5 good evening dimple arj at large good evening and happy birthday Mr barari wait wait wait that's my job sorry yikes okay wait a minute no no no now that you started it you finish it you start the tune go ahead happy birthday to you happy birthday to you happy birthday T Pari happy birthday to you you he he's acting like he's shy whatever [Applause] shy it's a Bo my goodness so nice a birthday boy boom thank you all so much thank you thank you how old are you please pass them around to my colleagues who love to celebrate birthday days OB not big into celebrating so thank you for that so much so welcome D Mard just six all right so as I was saying that we come together and we're going to go ahead and continue our introduction what we got to finish our introduction so miss mayor protim real name mayor protim district one V's mayor marus city manager malcol gram District to Ed DRS district 7 Mard Lana Mayfield council member La all right thank you I think that's everyone and so um tonight I think that one of the things that I heard and I was listening to the housing committee and the work that you guys are doing is so important that I would like to ask you to be the first group to report out and um be able to tell us and give us a summary of what you would like to have council members begin to um review and Ponder for the future Mr Jones does that okay with you ABS absolutely mayor you shouldn't say no right right thank you so much mayor my chair I'm thinking hopefully is right around the corner we went through a lot today and our we had one item our policy referral on our minimum housing code we had quite a bit of conversation ultimately there are some recommendations that came out of committee and staff as well as our legal representation regarding our INR process and an injective release as well as code enforcement actions I'm going to keep this real short so we have a short night our ultimate recommendations tonight was around directing staff what we're bringing to full Comm committee is a recommendation around directing staff to advance new processes for inim repair and injunctive relief we have had the ability of legal action through injunctive relief but it has not been utilized so this is to request for us to really start utilizing that language when the ability and mlus will help keep me honest with CU I did not write the notes down for this and ultimately our committee next steps is also our procurement for mm Services council member ashmir am I forgetting anything as well as our bringing in it will help us to bring in inim repair ords forward for Council action so when we look at the opportunities and working with our partners we're also going to get some actual numbers for some of the recommendations in here to know where we are budget wise so of course we have about 3 million in Pago total well the we had a ation around the a pilot for mold testing we're still going to get some more communication regarding how that will be implemented and to get an idea of exactly what are the dollars that we're looking at when we look at our Upstream rental assistance and we're looking at when there's a displacement how much money do we have available through our cdbg funds and how much money does our partner crisis assistance and through our relocation contract is still available for such events did I miss anything any questions I just want to say that it is great to hear that we're examining what the old was and what the new can become so thank you so much for taking that in a forward Direction so our next committee is um go budget governance and intergovernmental relations our next report thank you madam mayor so for the budget governance and intergovernmental Relations Committee let me first start out with u introducing our committee members starting with Vice chair council member bukari in fact he did join the meeting on his birthday today so thank you council member bukari uh and council member Brown Mayfield and Mitchell so during today's meeting of the committee we discussed two important topics first was charlot water and Stor water which was uh their budget um proposal and that operations priorities for the coming fiscal year uh so as you know as part of our budget uh process this year we are doing all the Enterprise funds uh in the committee uh uh there were some questions about the rate increase for Charlotte water um and uh it's in line with what we had historically um also we got an update on the storm water where staff is being proactive in uh in Asset Management uh to ensure that we don't have a huge backlog like we had back in 2017 when council member DRS was the chair of the committee and I remember discussing that back in 2017 so I think we are in much better uh uh State than we were back in 2017 because we are being more proactive and because we are being more proactive uh and and um we are really addressing uh we we are doing more on the prevention side so that we don't end up having a huge backlog uh certainly staff is investing more in Capital Improvements uh both on water and strong water s side so we got an overview of that so if you're interested in learning more obviously there there are two decks available uh for for deeper dive on water and storm water so that's on that uh there will be a rate increase for a typical homeowner we are looking at about 5.6 about $5 and some cents per month uh but this is critical as we as we continue to invest in our aging uh Charlotte water as well as uh continue to stay up to dat with our operations Investments like pasas and others uh but you know we are a we have a safe water um it's an w- winning water and certainly something that uh we should be very proud of because not a lot of municipalities can say that and when we look at our pasas which is the forever chemicals as you know there were additional regulations that came out under Biden Administration but you know thanks to Charlotte water leadership we always stayed ahead of all of those regulations even the regulations that are being rolled back now when it comes to past we are still ahead of it so I appreciate the leadership ship of Miss Charles and her entire team on what we are doing to stay uh ahead of the CB there and a second topic was increasing our part mwsb participation in capital projects uh there is um I'm I'm sorry um you don't have that okay so you will all get a copy of the draft of our mwsb pilot project in terms of what we are doing to increase the participation uh I ask Mr Heath to provide a copy to all council members so you all can read it but what we are doing just to highlight uh we are streamlining our procurement process we are expanding Outreach efforts and we are also delivering targeted support uh this was all the concerns uh that we had heard from mwsb businesses uh and I really hope this will help increase our participation rate and really this plan is designed to incorporate best practices and provide data uh so that we can make an informed decision uh the committee will have uh will track um I mean we we will get data on how we are tracking in terms of our performance by end of the year uh but we are looking at percent percentage of contract goals that's been met what is the total spend when it comes to mwsb uh number of mwsb that are awarded Prime contracts as well as the number of new businesses that are being certified so I think these are um really performance measures to continue to track uh we will have um well Council will take an action on this on the plan in April on April 10th to be specific um so if you all have any questions ahead of that if you could reach out to Mr Heath uh um Miss Allan as well as miss Mr Cocker who have been working on this extensively for past 6 to 8 months it's important to note that the plan that was approved by the committee earlier today it does conform to our existing regulations it also is in alignment with what uh this Council adopted in 2020 in in terms of the CBI program poliy policy and also it's in alignment of what we discussed at our at our strategy meeting back in January um but um I'm excited about this uh new plan um and addresses the concerns of mwsp businesses and uh you will get a briefing on this in April um and yep I'm sorry I said April 10th this will be in frontal for us on our agenda on April 7th so that's all I have if I missed anything council member May pH feel free to chime in mayor if I can the only thing that I will add um chairman asme is if you want to touch on the foundation going back to Charlotte water and the conversation of having a third party that will assist for Fundy if you wanted to go over that yes I think um many of us were around when uh especially during the pandemic when we when Charlotte Water started a nonprofit arm which is really to help with the fundraising so that we can get funding from uh other agencies or uh private foundations uh certainly it's going in the right direction and um and we were the only M municipality that did not have nonprofit uh but certainly that has has been changed and uh I believe Mr fips was one of the board members back when we had started it uh so thanks to his leadership as well as uh Miss Charles and her entire team uh but it's great to see how far it has come along since uh we started that back in uh 2020 or 2021 so that's all I have and I mean it supports so for those of you who do not know about this nonprofit it really helps low-income uh residents to help pay bills water bills um it's a great program to assist families that because water is essential um you know so I have helped connect a few families that could not afford to pay their bills with that and they've benefited from it it's a um uh it's a great program that's all I have thank you all right thank you our next report is um Bobs do you want to do that last Mr Graham so because you have a presentation is that correct I have a presentation as your okay do you want to do it first or okay all right let's go to our um Economic Development Committee thank you madam mayor and members of council uh we had a great meeting today uh based on a a longstanding um commitment by this Council to support Workforce Development um certainly my vice here who's not here council member Mitchell as well as Miss Mayfield were really uh integral part of kind of bringing this forward uh so I want to thank them for their participation and also thank Danielle Frasier for coming on board and really doing a good job and her team um to kind of put us in this position that we are in today uh also want to thank the shamco team who was here with us today for their support along the way uh Miss Fraser has been pretty busy this year starting off with our Retreat uh in January with our panel discussion with Workforce providers from all over the country uh and and and recognizing her presidency um uh Nationwide um she gave the committee a preliminary report in February of this year and today uh she came back with her final Workforce Development draft plan that was unly adopted today by the committee forwarding to the city council for a March 24th vote therefore she will be making a presentation just to make sure that everyone is uh familiar with the recommendations coming forward uh the committee and I want to thank again Mitchell drgs Bahari and Molina for for their support uh the mayor Pro 10 was also in attendance today I think we had some guiding principles about today's meeting and today's vote which was we clearly understand that as a committee our job and responsibility and the council is to make sure that we fly this thing at 30,000 and feet and allow Danielle and her staff and other stakeholders really to kind of get into the devil or the details of some of the work that has to be done um staff and um Mr fr again we'll kind of do the Deep dive with um init from council members and we did provide several uh input for her um the the motion that was carried today also had a caveat that she would kind of um do some not clean up but more specific work necessary to kind of give a broader perspective about some of the questions um being asked uh we said one that what gets measures gets done so that we looking forward to a lot more measurement criteria along the way um we also uh wanted to understand our steady state Mr maner in terms of our Budget moving forward uh so that we can continue to fund fund the work of the Workforce Development officer moving forward so hopefully we can have a better understanding of that uh support for working with outside organizations that the city is not uh in this by ourselves that we're working with a wide variety of organizations to help us fulfill this Mission and we look forward to the September 25th Workforce Development Summit uh last year was the first time that we did it uh we're going to do it again this year uh from my understanding from Mrs Frasier we continue to work with our opportunity helps throughout the quarters of opportunities um making sure that there's um opportunities within neighborhoods and communities to assess these type of um uh initiatives um relating to job and job Readiness so we look forward to that uh we definitely want to continue to work with um um our employes throughout the community employer engagement is significantly uh important as well and then miss Molina said something that I really agree with certainly Mr marari and drgs had a lot of imp phases so that she would go back to adjust the presentation before a final vote and I agree with that but also that we we'd be able to answer a simple question this is a planning document is how we will move forward but a simple question is what does it mean for the man on the street right when I said I need a job whether that person is a first time looking for employment whether it's someone who has been laid off looking for new employment or someone simply looking to change careers and so we believe we have a good format moving forward um I would like to turn the program over to miss frasers uh unless there's any other comments from any committee members um if not miss Fraser welcome you to the podium to share where we are and and where we're going well thank you Mr Graham are can you all hear me am I okay um thank you Mr Graham thank you mayor and to council for the opportunity to share the Workforce Development strategic plan I don't know if if I have anything else to share you you you captured almost everything and so I really appreciate the tea up um there was a lot of pressure today being the only agenda item on the jobs and economic development committee so I weathered it and here I am and and glad that we had some great discussion on uh and feedback on what's next okay kind of already went through this portion and actually uh Mr Graham went through this as well uh what we wanted to do though is make the con contivity of our Workforce Development strategic plan and how it aligns with your Council priorities so it aligns uh directly with Workforce and Business Development uh and want to talk about some of the key takeaways today that we discussed with Council committee committee one to remind you all that this plan was developed with a lot of input uh and feedback from Council thank you all again for all of your support in the early conversations and the feedback that you provided as well as the ongoing feedback that has been supported through committee uh we uh sherco is here Mr Graham already um U mentioned them but they have been working behind the scenes with helping to develop this plan and have done uh a number of uh stakeholder conversations with Workforce Partners as well as partners or uh experts across our our community nationally and even internationally uh one of the things that we want to if we do this right that this plan will support increasing economic and and upward Mobility for our Charlotte residents uh as well as supporting increased access to Skilled talent for our Charlotte Area employers we've had a number of uh connection points and touch points with you all Council as well as our committee so in October we presented at the jobs and economic development committee the high level key Focus areas of this plan in January you all know uh again Mr Graham mentioned this a little bit ago we had a great discussion at our annual strategy meeting as well as we presented the full plan uh back in February and today presented the the final draft and now I'm here with you presenting to full Council on this update and hopes that this will be in preparation for a decision to be made on this this plan uh March 24th business meeting so I'm going to go through a couple of these slides quickly um just for the sake of time again many insights and feedback that we've received uh from committee and from Council and we want to highlight some of those that continue to come up and be in our themes um the things that continue to uh to be pronounced is we need to make sure that we are providing navigation and career pathway services in our community in our corridors focusing on Industries and demand so that means Industries and jobs that are here now and that are growing so that we ensure we're investing in programs and resources and trainings that uh will will support our talent as well as our business needs uh making sure that we're connecting this work to economic mobility and and the cheddy study has come up quite a few times and of course the measurements on related outcomes and performance data that uh that we will measure these programs on and I'll share a little bit more about that later on in the presentation so wanted to share also a few things with with committee and with Council in the midst of all of this Workforce Development planning there are a number of things that uh we've been able to do since I've been on board with Team Charlotte we started our planning with shco almost about a year ago uh last late I think winter um but since then we've deployed over $4.5 million in Workforce Development funding which was part of uh an RCA that you all approved some time ago to support Workforce Services in our community we established the office of Workforce Development we launched our education to Employment Program as well as again Mr Graham mentioned uh the the first um uh Workforce Development Summit that we co-created in partnership with the organizations you see here as well as the opportunity hubs were launched to help support uh workforce and development and small business efforts in our corridors of opportunity and so today it brings us to the the plan the Strategic plan or framework if you will of uh what what our plan will look like and I'm going to share with you our vision and our mission our vision is to cultivate a vibrant diverse and skilled Workforce system that enables residents to obtain sustainable employment and businesses to access skilled talent and our mission of the plan is to Champion Innovative evidence-based Workforce initiatives and solutions that meet the dynamic needs of our employees our residents and our business Community as we think about this plan uh you all know we have the office of Workforce Development that supports both our city employees our 8,500 employees that we support along their Career Development and advancement Journey but it's also how we leverage our external partners and resources to support our community talent and so that brings us to our our key Focus areas of this strategic Plan and there's three areas that we've identified that we really could lean into and support in a greater way and one is career pathway access and awareness two is skill development and credential attainment and three is job placement and career advancement and if you look under these three uh Focus areas or pillars if you will you'll see that everything that we do in these three pillars are data driven as well as Employer informed what I mean by data driven is making sure that we're focusing again on those Industries in in demand the jobs that are growing the jobs that will be here that are coming also knowing about our talent what are our talent um faced with what are their challenges what are some of their barriers so that we understand how we can support programming that supports Alo the wraparound supports of the talent that will be served uh and again all of this is validated with our employers and so understanding what our actual employer needs are within our uh specific community and so now I'm going to walk us through each one of these these goals as well as the strategies and so under goal number one that's to expand access and awareness of in demand career pathway opportunities in the Charlotte area and you'll see to the right a list of strategies that we hope to execute and the first strategy is to promote messaging of career Pathways within key Industries to increase Talent pipelines for in demand jobs strategy number two is to grow career pathway awareness through career exploration and work integrated learning experiences and three is to expand access through Workforce Development Services by increasing Community career navigation support uh and I'll go through and here you see key metrics down at the bottom this is not uh an exhaustive list as I've told committee but these are the things that come to mind as we think about how do we measure success in these very spe specific strategies and what um our our action steps will look like to do that so want to talk through a little bit of what our next steps could look like to uh move this plan forward over the next three to six months um a lot of the conversation has been around um this is great the plan the key Focus areas but what does it really look like in the details and what does it look like in action so I want to share a little bit of uh what we what's top of mind for us as we immediately move forward um fingers crossed once this plan is is endorsed or accepted and so one of those um that corresponds to the these all correspond to the strategies on the previous slide and that's one to leverage and promote existing tools and websites that assist with career resources for job navigation so that's uh for example leveraging some of the tools that we have that we're using whether it's Civ forms some other um websites and guidance and resources that are available uh virtually for those that have access to uh these services or these um these tools and Technology um the second strategy is to deploy career Navigators within the corridors of opportunity and Community to increase access to Career Development Services education and training programs and employment opportun unties so we look at these two strategies as one making sure that we're able to support uh virtual navigation of whether it's in demand Industries career Pathways or what services are in our community but then also we want to make sure that we have boots on the ground in the community to help support hight touch um uh services to help support navigation of our Workforce Development ecosystem within our community and lastly uh is to finalize the mapping of our community Workforce Services and train tring providers to make available to community and organizations this is also something that sherco has been assisting us with and helping to asset map if you will what services in our are in our community what training programs especially free training programs that are in our community that uh we can use uh to help navigate uh help our our talent navigate our ecosystem so our second goal is to enhance Workforce uh skills and education to support demand for current and future Talent needs some of our strategies around that will be to support skill-based training and Industry recognized credential programs for unemployed individuals our second strategy will be to invest in skill growth opportunities for underemployed talent through targeted education and specialized training programs you'll notice that we have two specific strategies around how we support unemployed Talent as well as underemployed Talent so helping individuals that may have no or low skills to get into training programs as well as that that lead to good jobs as well as that individual who may need an upskill or res skill to be able to move to uh the next career move or to be able to increase um whether it's their wages or or promote uh within their their career path and lastly it's to connect more untapped and unders skilled talent to Education and Training Program so we want to make make sure that um we we are being intentional about the talent and being inclusive in and making sure that our Seline Talent whether it's our our veterans our opportunity youth our Justice involved Etc that we are supporting them with the resources they need to get the training skills as that lead to uh sustainable employment some action items for those over the next few months that we feel we can um that we can get moving pretty pretty quickly is one there's a lot of work around this particular um goal and that's to make sure we validate the data I spoke a little bit excuse me about this earlier is ensuring that we know what data we hear whether it's labor market Industries in grow that are in demand that are growing but we want to make sure we validate that information with our business Community we want to review our Workforce Development and ecosystem strengths so when we know what industries are in demand we have about six to seven of those across our region and looking at that we don't want to boil the ocean and that was some of the conversation we had in committee today and that's making sure that we really hone in on those Industries and those areas that we really want to um to impact over time a part of that is to identify the target Talent right when we talk about the talent that we want to to support is that K through 12 unders skilled underemployed untapped uh or a combination of and that also will help us to identify opportunities for Innovative programming to Pilot and lastly to be able to uh release new funding opportunities for new Andor existing Workforce Development programs uh and initiatives and for the last goal um the last goal is to connect more talent to sustainable employment opportunities so strategies to do some of that is to expand earn and learn opportunities such as on the job training or uh registered apprentiship to increase skills development and job placement uh strategy two is to expand our educ to Employment Program to uh employ high school and to expand that to college students for uh with positions within the city of Charlotte and and abroad uh we hope that we've we've somewhat started a movement and and created momentum for other businesses to come on board and support entrylevel um uh roles for our graduating high school students uh and lastly it's to work with education and Community Partners to connect job ready Talent uh with employment opportunities and again you'll see some of the the key metrics below of how we we plan to measure success so some action steps on how we um uh see this this plan in action is to uh identify interested employers to support expansion of apprenticeships and on the job training opportunities uh expand our education to employment initiative by increasing the number of entry-level roles uh for early Talent within the city of Charlotte and again Beyond and then the last is to build industry specific Talent Pipelines uh of teams cons comprised of training providers Workforce Development and Community Partners to meet uh Talent as well as Employer needs to fill available job opportunities um this this plan essentially I'm sorry this last uh uh action essentially is how can the city be a stronger connector and conduit it for connecting talent to jobs and and uh businesses to Talent whether it's through funded programs that we will fund directly whether that's through uh our mwsb opportunities and as well as with our Economic Development Investments uh or companies that are just looking to relocate or expand in our area just making sure that we have that stronger connection of of Workforce Development and talent to to those opportunities so these are act these actions are not an exhaustive list it's just where we see we can really move some things rather quickly once uh um again fingers crossed this plan is is approved and accepted um and and where we can really mobilize this plan and as with any plan again strategies vary um in in how they're executed and when based on priority feasibility uh and again our ecosystem strengths so the one thing that we want to mention and I want to mention here is that we have a number of plans of strategies initiatives that are being updated revised created and we again I think I've said this before but we look at Workforce Development as one of these crosscutting uh factors and it in it touches all of these different areas that you see in these blue bubbles um but but want to really call out some of the plans on the leand side of the slide when we think about mobility and the opportunity potentially that this 1-cent sales tax uh can support and the infrastructure that will need to be built out through jobs talent and what will be needed to to help support that transformation of our transportation and transit system when we think about CA I think some of you heard uh The capa's Plan update today and you heard that Workforce Development is one of their crosscutting uh factors as well and so we've been working closely with with Sarah and team to identify opportunities to collaborate Stephen Coker with uh with Charlotte business inclusion as well as housing um Miss Mayfield I think I heard Workforce Development come up in the housing conversation committee today as well as of course connection to to small business so want Council to know that we're being very intentional with uh how we're thinking about Workforce Development as we think about our our strategies and and our implementation and how we move things forward and um one of the last things that I'll mention is again there's just ongoing work that our office is is doing and I know a lot of this plan is focused on external efforts that we will support and invest in but just want to remind you that we've got about 8008 8,500 to 9,000 employees that we are supporting along their career uh development and advancement Journeys through these specific programs that uh I've shared uh with with Committee in the past um as well as we'll continue to Monitor and manage the performance report information of those programs that you all have already invested in through the $9.1 million that you approved uh some time ago and that ended up being about 4.5 million or so that we were able to deploy and funds in the community last thing that we'll continue to do is is just research best practices and make sure that we are uh staying a breast of what opportunities are out there that we uh may be able to glean um from to en enhance some of the services that are are um being supported in our community um these were our next steps for today and was certainly to incorporate any feedback that Council has um on the plan and um our plan uh was to provide an update to you all as I am right now and again in preparation potentially for a decision on uh the the next business uh meeting on May 24th and um hopefully to begin moving this plan forward uh in sometime in April to talk one of the things that I will mention you have in your appendix uh you have current Workforce Development arpa funded programs performance by organization one of the things that again we heard loud and clear around um making sure that we are monitoring data and performance and outcomes so that we can see the impact of the investment that uh you all are making as as Council and there is a list of programs that are currently in your appendix I will not go through each of those for the sake of time but we had a lot of great discussion in in the committee around some of these these data points and I'm happy to walk through those with you at a later time but one caveat that I do want to mention about the performance information is that a lot of these programs are just getting up and running um some within the last 3 to six months and so we wanted to give you a snapshot of where those programs are year to date those programs run and will terminate as of April 2026 and so you'll see that maybe some of those numbers look low or we haven't enrolled everyone or have served everyone but it's because there's still a long Runway uh to go and that they have just started to get uh ramped up with their programs and services so we want to share these numbers with you on a regular basis um so that you can see how these pro programs are are progressing and Performing over time and ultimately we w we will plan to have a dashboard that you all will be able to access um at at your fingertips at any time so that you can always see how the programs are uh are progressing through your investment and so with that I will pause and answer any questions that you all may have thank you very much Danielle for the presentation we have um several council members that would like to have some time to discuss this with us and we'll start off with Miss Mayfield followed by Miss ashir followed by Miss watlington thank you Madame mayor thank you Miss Fraser for this presentation I will do a plug for slide 16 I would say housing should be moved up instead of below Mobility CA and business inclusion one of the main conversations that we are having is the connection of when we have opportunities of training that gives people better options when they start to increase their individual income I would also mayor like to ask and Mr manager ask if we can have I guess a few more presentations in our committee where we're actually tying in even though it was noted that some of these numbers seem low we approved road to hire back may one that's 10 months with a goal of 152 they had 36 participants so it will be helpful if we can get some of these timelines like 6 months to make sure that we're on track since we allocated a million and some change 26 is going to be gone very shortly so making sure that we're staying ahead I would also like to ask Miss Frasier Have we looked at and to me this seems like a low hanging fol the people that actually apply for the city of Charlotte reaching out to them cuz we have people all over the city that have applied through for a position with the city of Charlotte and or the county that may not be selected but there might be an opportunity for other opportunities that are available because I want to make sure that we're looking at a broad range of Education not overly saturating our focus on those who may not have multiple years of skill set we have a lot of people that are transitioning in their careers we have a lot of individuals that have multiple degrees that may be underemployed or unemployed today I don't want us missing that opportunity of higher skilled labor being able to be connected when we're looking at corporate relocations and other things and they have three or four positions that's at a higher level we already have access to individuals because they've reached out to us on either again through the city or the county that might be a easy win to go back through our own list and reach out to some of those individuals and connect them to the opportunities those were the thoughts that I had Madame mayor thank you all right thank you missa thank you Madame mayor um see um great job Daniel with the very comprehensive presentation on Workforce Development plan um I was going through this PowerPoint deck um I did not see anything being discussed for those with language barriers as you know there are certain corridors um and parts of our city where we have a significant immigrant and Refugee population and they have uh when it comes to barriers in terms of jobs uh language is a barrier uh there are organizations like Latin American Coalition uh Carolina Asian um Asian-American chamber as well as Refugee support services that actually have programs for those with language barrier in other languages uh have you all considered partnering with them in addressing that employment gap because the their needs are very unique uh in and how do we navigate through those challenges would be certainly very important as part of our overall Workforce Development plan got it I appreciate that that question and yes we have thought about that especially when we think about our corridors of opportunity and our opportunity hubs we do know that uh I think it's the Latin Coalition that just launched their uh spark Hub I might be getting it um getting it wrong but that is one of the goals when you think about the career Navigators and and US deploying those resources in the community we want to identify those hubs first because those were the areas in which we've already invested from an infrastructure standpoint we want to make sure that we follow up and we can support from a resource and services standpoint so yes thank you for that but duly noted okay um also Refugee Support Services it's another organization um that helps those that are that have newly moved to the city of Charlotte and they have they need services in terms of not just uh addressing language barrier but around um their uh what you immigration so you know refugees have to apply for this specific uh certification and so on so I think having uh engaging them would help us breach that Gap and also Asian-American chamber they have a programs for uh Burmese as well as monard Community where those communities has very unique challenges when it comes to access to Opportunities um so I just want to make sure we are customizing our Workforce plan to address needs because you know we're not going to find one solution for all communities in in terms of jobs got it yeah thank you all right that's all I have thank you I I really appreciate that Miss hir because I started thinking about more than just the language the life skills you know when people are going to come out and and we have a training and they get a paycheck do they know how to utilize how do you Bank how do you do all of these things so I appreciate that now miss watlington thank you madam mayor my question is very fundamental because I want to make sure that as I'm thinking about this I'm just following the dots I see here and you make mention of it in one of the um IES was around making sure that we're very targeted and not trying to Bow the ocean and so as I look at some of the existing programs and whatnot help me to conceptualize this like what fundamentally is the gap in terms of like our employment rate and for whom and what are the jobs in our community that we struggle to feel I feel like that's how I'm thinking about it because if we start there then that feels like it Paints the picture of who our Target Workforce really is and it might help us to narrow even further some of the efforts because I think about like the uh corridors of opportunity for example given the rate of change that we see there are they still the places where the folks who we're targeting live and are we targeting underemployed under skilled Justice involved folks are we trying to Target like you said the K12 or do those programs already exist and then to Lana's Point um people who are already kind of opting into wanting some Services how are we really like leveraging those folks and specific to for instance we need police officers for example or other civil servants um and then finally I just think about how does this overlay with like higher ed and some of the programs that are already happening they are Rec connecting the dots to our local University Workforce to make sure that we're that there's somewhere for them to live and work within our community if they so choose so that's just some of the stuff that I know it's baked in here but for me I'm not quite yet able to articulate this is this is the gap and this is who we're trying to help with what we have here because I think that may help us um sometimes we hear that some of the programs that we've invested in don't necessarily yield jobs but they yield certifications and I think that might be part of the connecting of the dots and then finally I just want to plus one to what council member Mayfield said in regards to the housing and connecting that to Workforce cuz that might be an angle like let's focus specifically on people who are 30 to 60 Ami or 30% who live in public assisted homes like if we targeted there and brought Folks up that might be something that we could do um quickly and that is right exactly exactly so those are my thoughts thank you for your presentation and thank you for the work that you've done to date you it's we can see that there's been a lot of thought put into it so I look forward to all right I want us to look I feel like we have personally I feel like we have Services targeted at the 30% we have a number of programs out there but where we're missing our local missing middle is that Workforce that earns between 50 and 90,000 they are also are transitioning with employment as well as finding challenges with identifying housing and transportation Okay so thanks for that I I think that's really accurate and I know when we get more data around this we'll be able to have that Mr dggs followed by mayor protin uh thank you mayor I'm really pleased to see the work that we've done in this space uh I think people who know me uh remember that I've advocated for a long time for Workforce Development so that people can afford their own housing um what we did discuss a lot today that the chair alluded to was the need to maybe bring a more operational perspective uh so right now we have uh uh we have a plan and we have the the concepts that we're working with but the appendix in the material that we got uh shows a couple of case studies so um I think that being able to to know what kind of metrics we will see around this uh how we will measure success how long we will keep following people that were in this program uh and then the the other point which again the chair alluded to was uh what is it going to take as on an ongoing basis as a line item in our budget in order to sustain this effort because we're working right now with arpa funds so the vote today was unanimous by the committee to support the plan U but included a recommendation that we look at those issues of metrics and budget thank you thank you mayor proam and Then followed by m Molina thank you Madame mayor and uh Danielle thank you for the presentation it was a really good discussion earlier in committee as I mentioned on your slide 16 I I really feel as like the work that you're doing really cuts across right it's it's really that horizontal um Vector across all of these bubbles that you put here how and CA Etc and we have to work on all of them um in tandem right um and I I really like the plan that you have here the um your specific um key metrics that that you have at the bottom of a few of these slides I think it' be really it it would be really interesting to see how you're going to measure those you know how those metrics will come to life and with some expectation when you do actually bring those to life I think you have to set the table for how long of a Runway you will need in some of these programs right to some of the points that were mentioned earlier in in committee as well as here like is it is a six-month Runway the right Runway to to see Traction in a program or um does it need to be you know a multiple of that right and I think you if you set the table with expect ations as you as you stand up these uh kpis that'll help us to absorb them to understand uh what we're really looking at um and then lastly I know we mentioned earlier leveraging the the the hubs and corridors of opportunity I think we absolutely have to do that but I'm just also thinking about the library system um you know I I met with m and um there's several new libraries coming online you know um the work on the main library is is is really just beginning but I find that I get questions around uh when I'm in community around navigation people just don't know where to go and they have there's a need but they don't know how to navigate they don't know how to find find these services and so just from a education perspective uh and a marketing perspective maybe we can leverage our library system um to have information there potentially even some touch points there especially because um there's a a good amount of at least residents in D district one that leverage the libraries for Digital Services they're going to use the computers to look for jobs um and and build out resumés Etc so I think there's a natural connection there and we just encourage you to investigate that thank you thank you Madame mayor all right Miss Molina thank you Madame mayor um I first want to say thank you Danielle for the work that you and the team have done so far I know um that this is a very unique undertaking because of the breadth of the work um and and feel like as I suggested today in committee that you have an opportunity in my opinion to really shape going into this because I I just keep giving that to you as a soft suggestion you know I I really am excited to have um a leader with your Acumen on board but I think we have to be careful not to overwhelm this endeavor with wanting to affect change across a very broadstream of um of deliverables right of of of intended outcomes and I think you know as we take a look at this I remember the workforce Summit last year and all of the various stakeholders that were in that room I mean we're talking it was 100% a public and private conversation opportunity the CC was in the room a lot of our private institutions we were at Central pedmont um and so we have the stakehold ERS that are at the table and I think now with the launch and being you know using a level of specificity we can as the city because it's like capap and all of the other things that we intend from a policy perspective one of the most important things that we have an opportunity to affect is what we have control of which is the city right so the resources that we deploy we can absolutely say um that we would like to attach quantitative outcomes to those particular items because we can control you know those particular um you know variables within you know a project Baseline whatever a program so I I'm I'm passionate not because I've been here on the council for a very long time but I went through WIA myself twice I was trained as a project management professional through the state program for WIA and I was trained in a one-year program for data analytics specifically around Workforce Development and that was over a 12year difference in time frame and so what I can say for sure is that just because we train someone doesn't necessarily mean without let's say experience an employer will be willing to hire them those are those are variables that you cannot control um in this endeavor there are so many different things that you cannot control not to mention in concurrently what you have is a variation of human beings that need emphasis right we have that human being that's just starting their Journey that they're just getting basic level uh uh you know skills to get started in their Endeavor and then we have all the way up to you know some of the human beings that are transitioning at varying degrees of their lives where just one or two things might be a touch point to get them to the next uh level so I think from a policy perspective like what was alluded to in the committee today we we we we speak in Access and outcome at the same time and they are very very different uh to give someone access is to say I'm going to provide you a service and then I have then at that moment fulfilled my responsibility but if I am attached to the outcome then I have a longterm term project Baseline and I intend to over time um you know provide emphasis to that human being until they get to a certain level of outcome which would then make this a budget conversation and a and a much deeper more profound conversation when we talk about what we're going to do so I challenge us from my personal opinion and experience uh having been like many of us in varying places along my Journey where I've had to you know um pick back up start over do different things and and and really regroup and and I'm fortunate to have had education and you know a a a a background where I've been a business owner brick and mortar and things like that but we have humans that just don't have that right and no matter how much we and and there will be humans that we have to put a great emphasis in in other humans that we put a trade in right to and then we can connect them to employment so what do we consider like I challenged today what do we consider a win do we consider if we've taken this person who walked in like the chairman said today and said I need a job but I don't have you know relative skill sets to even get started I don't have a computer I don't have said you know just the basics of what we consider Basics those of us who have them in our hands that human being is going to need a much greater emphasis than someone who was recently laid off with a bachelor's degree who is just trying to you know um reinvent what their career looks like as opposed to this human being right so I just and and the corridors even the corridors are going to look very very different like what council memba you know alluded to the albamar Road Corridor is going to look different than the freedom Corridor and so making sure that there's a communication I mean I think we have so much that we can say what you know it's just like council member watlington said boiling the ocean right like this is a huge undertaking and so my challenge to us as a body as a policymaking body and to you as the leader of this endeavor this is a perfect opportunity for you to take what we know what you have and and I you've you've been a leader in this sector for a very long time so I don't want to pretend to tell you where to start but I think guidance on you know kind of a what the Baseline looks like what are our key Milestones look like what are we trying to affect when we come out of the gate and what type of like what the mayor protim said what type of time frame do you need in order to complete that endeavor where we can then Monitor and control our Baseline and know where we're going and what type of outcomes we're intending right as we make you know monetary DEC you know decisions that are concurrent with this issue so um if you can't tell this is personal for me I really want us to be successful uh I really want us to be realistic when it comes to this challenge because it's a big Challenge and and we can do so many things but where can we be strategic and where can we impact the most humans and affect change is really what I'm interested in personally and I'm sure my colleagues feel aligned with that Mr Jones Thank You mayor members of council and uh I really appreciate what you just put in the room I I just like to add you know a couple things one one um for us to be realistic is extremely important I I like um slide 16 I I love it when the council members want to take their initiatives and make it first which is great because when we start to think about this if we do this the right way um instead of having having Workforce Development is connected to other strategies it may be housing is connected to other strategies or or the ca so that's extremely important I think we're jelling as as an organization to make we're horizontal with this the the only other thing I'd like to say and Danielle I don't know if you have control to get back to slide nine um thank you is that that thing up there to the top right actually says leader investor convenor connector influencer so there's a role for this community and there's a role for the city and even at the strategy meeting you realize that many cities do not take on Workforce development because it's so difficult it's outside of the city so I I would say that we need to think about the players and the partners um the outcomes and the Investments I can assure you this will not be a $50 million program it won't be a $10 million program because we should not as a city be funding everything but figuring out figuring out what our role is in these various areas whether an influencer or an investor but but again I think um I would like to thank the committee and I'd like to thank Danielle because I think this is the proper way to bring a policy initiative to the body having the committee members have a chance to reframe this thing a bit then coming back to the full body to get more input so I think we're in in a very good place and I just want to publicly thank you Danielle for getting us here thank you mayor thank you Danielle you've heard all of the um opportunities and ideas and I think the manager has framed it very very well this isn't this isn't a new thing it's just something that you have to always you know fill up the tank again over and over again I remember when um Bank of America was just doing anybody that could actually be a teller now there's no such thing as a teller is a machine right and so we have to be thinking about this in a very different way than what the traditional thing things would say and do and I know that you're up for it because you've got a whole team of people that are going to support you as we're doing this so I want to say thanks as well and Mr Graham you got a lot of good things to think about we got a great team behind me so thank you very much so with that are there any other questions or comments thank you for the things that you've said that have made so much sense and bring so much reality to this um so our our next meet our next discussion is on Transportation Planning and Development from Mr DRS thank you mayor um the members of the Transportation Planning Development Committee are myself as chair Miss Molina as Vice chair and council members Graham Johnson and watlington we had two topics today the community area planning process and the Strategic energy action plan both were for information but I want to tell you just a little bit about them because they are both on a timeline route uh toward a proposed Council adoption and I want to make sure everybody's aware of that and roughly what's coming along and if you have concerns you know inform yourself and and don't wait until that day and say oh my God you know where' that come from so um the 2040 comprehensive plan we had a briefing today uh about uh kind of what to expect I think the conversation in committee has been what exactly does this mean what will these area plans do how will they change things and so the staff are attempting to prepare us I think for that describing some of what's in there and today we had two very useful examples in terms of rezonings types of rezoning and how the area plan might affect the way they proceed uh one of them was the resoning within a place type when you have something that's got one in one place type and it want to reone it for another one and that's consistent and then you have one where you want to go from N1 to N2 and that is not consistent so how does that work but I think one thing I want to emphasize is uh there could be a comparatively short time from when we actually have in our hands the draft and relatively few opportunities to talk so I encourage everybody go online you can find a lot of this material you'll be able to see the drafts when they go up look at your district and find out how they describe your District they'll be of course they don't align perfectly with the districts um and know that as it stands right now the uh the part two uh application tpd presentation I.E a sequel to what we heard today is scheduled April and May late April action review and then late April going into May uh public comment and the proposed Council adoption so this is two months away we don't have a lot of meetings before then so it's going to come up sooner than you think uh strategic energy action plan again we got some an overview and I just want to mention a couple of bullets here uh for one uh the draft updates uh goals that the plan has CommunityWide goals Charlotte will reduce CommunityWide greenhouse gases by 72% by 2020 35 and reach Net Zero by 2050 600 megawatts of distributed renewable energy generation will be installed in Charlotte by and then Municipal goals uh the city will Source 100% of its electricity for use in municipal buildings from zero carbon sources by 2030 and reach net zero emissions in municipal buildings by 2050 and the city will reach net zero emissions in its light duty Fleet by 203 these are the uh the key provisions of the plan um the focus areas of the plan are buildings energy generation transportation and what's called cross cutting so you can see there's a lot of detail around that but those are the bones of it uh I think it's it's great that we have this plan that identify Charlotte as kind of a leader in thinking in this area uh which I in turn I emphasized in our meeting today um just burnishes the reputation of the city it reinforces the perception that Charlotte is kind of a happening place uh and uh uh when you think of some cities who in comparison frankly are a bit tired right I mean they're playing defense and they haven't updated these plans so I like the Vitality around this plan as well as the the outlook for a cleaner environment and uh but again the thing you need to know about this is uh March 2025 finalized the draft public review of the draft April 25 um request to approve advancing capap from committee to full Council and full Council adoption so in the next two months we're going to see the community area plans and the updated CA come to council there's flexibility so we're not going to to be jammed if if uh if we aren't happy and we're not ready to move then then it will take longer uh but that is the kind of timeline we're working on there aren't that many meetings between now and then so please just uh be aware uh the last thing I wanted to mention that we talked about in the meeting today was that uh last week a bill was filed and the legislature I think everybody's probably heard about it uh but the bill that the MTC created and drafted Ed all of us and that we approved um was basically has been processed in the legislature and there was a filing on Monday by three very senior Senators the chairs of the um transportation rules and finance committees a powerful group and the bill they ran is not exactly the same as the one we wrote because they separated the bill into a piece which is a funding piece and is a local bill that's the sales tax portion has the 20 4020 split in it and those things and then the other part of it was the governance piece the creation of the authority the appointments in the authority and so on which will be a public bill uh so they they're on different tracks they're both moving ahead um I think the key thing to note here is uh even though this is a big deal and uh a cause for celebration it's just a waypoint and so we need to understand that there is actually uh a lot more than has to happen before you know we are where we want to be for November uh the bill will be the subject of uh probably some horse trading frankly among the legislators to get the votes that are needed to pass it and uh I'm hoping that that will not actually affect the content our content of the bill but that may be up to them to sort of work out what it takes I I need this from you and you give me that and the way they play those games there so I think it's uh good uh for us to uh adopt a position a public position of being appreciative of the filing being hopeful for the success of the bill um but also understanding that there is more to come and that we shouldn't take anything for granted the last thing I'll mention about it is uh the the bill itself is likely to get taken up I guess in the summer sometime it's hard to say for sure it's in the rules committee now um but one of the provisions in the bill that was written was that it doesn't become effective even if it's approved before the budget is adopted so the challenge for us is going to be to bring along the public information process in tandem with those events in the legislature so that we don't start sometime in September trying to inform the public for a vote in November because we need to do a lot of public information I should mention also that uh we appreciate the support of uh private sector leaders business leaders in uh helping us get to this point and getting the legislature to recognize the importance for us of the bill and I don't know uh Mr chair if you want to add anything but uh no I I think you you were very comprehensive in your in your outline um and I'm I'm too very excited about the start that we have um Mr DRS just write the devils in the details you know a local Bill cannot be veto by the Governor a public bill can it is attached to the budget the budget never gets passed in June unlike us we have to do by a date certain they will have a continuing resolution uh the budget probably won't get passed until July at the earliest October at the latest as it was two years ago U for a wide variety of reasons there will be some horse trading for sure um the bill has not changed um dramatically uh it's with left out of the bill that is concerning um and uh the speaker as well as the the president protim said in their public statements that the bill is subject to change and so we just need to make sure that we understand what the changes are and it doesn't have any significant local impact here for what it is that we're trying to do but um the right people have the bill the bills and rules as Mr Drake said uh rules committee U does not meet uh it'll be pulled out all the rules committee at some point in time and sent to the transportation committee uh that generally doesn't happen until late April early May where in the budget is really getting ready to be um seriously debated and and for some type of resolution so um but anything is possible they can pull it out the rules committee tomorrow um but his history suggests that it won't um but um we got a lot of Education to do and even having this conversation right now I think it's a part of the public education making sure that the public knows that this is something really important to the community for a wide variety reasons um that we got work to do that certainly this council member uh understands the economic impact for what I do as chairing the city's economic development committee and what Mr drg does in terms of chairing the transportation committee is kind of hand and gloves that we're working together on this and um I I uh told Mr uh my former colleague burger that I will be up there um often um just to kind of kick in the tires and demonstrate some public support and Raley for the bill and I would encourage all us to kind of make a trip there from time to time uh just to show your face and just to say hello that that goes a long ways in terms of demonstrating um that we We are continuing to advocate for the measure uh and and making sure that doesn't change to a point where it will cause us some discomfort once it's finally passed so I look forward to um working with Mr drgs U working with the city manager working with the corporate leaders um because it's certainly all hands on deck and then getting ready for hopefully a public education campaign where we kind of really inform the public about what it is that we're doing no one's really paying attention to it until it passes uh and that's when hopefully there will be limited opposition to what we're trying to do because I think this is really in the best interest of the um of the of the region and certainly of the city and protecting the Investments that we've already made so I look forward to championing it thank you any other questions or comments regarding Miss yes thank you mam I I have a couple of questions on C uh I'll come back to your second topic son C can we get um sort of onepage s side by side comparison of the CF that we adopted and approved in 2018 and today so that we know uh what exactly the changes are and from what I understood from past two meetings is that it's going to be on heavy Fleet where uh it will apply to just the transportation part of it not so much the the energy generation or the building or the work for his development piece is that correct um there was a special emphasis on greenhouse gases okay right I mean is is that the part you so so you know how the CF has uh goals for our buildings energy generation Transportation uh well in terms of our internal City goal heavy Fleet so are these changes specifically around transportation and heavy Fleet for our city so the way it's described to us was was again that they have CommunityWide goals and Municipal goals and I mentioned what those are and then they had Focus areas buildings energy generation transportation and then there are a lot of detailed bullets about what happens in each of those spaces uh I had asked for the same thing and I haven't actually seen it but I I I think uh uh having an isolated just side by side this is what we've done and this is what we're proposed to do um I think uh from conversations the idea was to sort of update the greenhouse gas Targets in particular uh and I have emphasized the fact that we do not want to put targets out there that are just not achievable or that could only be achieved with the bankrupting the city so um and I've had assurances that the way this has worked out they have done that uh mentioned also that we should have benchmarks or way points so that we actually have an ability to track whether we're gaining on that objective that we set for ourselves uh but I think I could ask the staff to come back and create a a clearer side by side comparison of Mr DS you have Miss Hazel here yes I think that would be help behind you there you are I'm sorry I didn't see you before why do you want to come up and talk about that uh so I think your question specifically was around how the goals were changing right so um I can just quickly give you the highlight level and then um as council member D had suggested when we come back our goal is to create sort of a simplified summary of um what is new um and what Remains the Same so that Council can understand that in addition to the larger document itself um so just a couple high points for the seat Plus update this is not an entirely new plan it is building off of the successes and the work that has been done over the past 5 years we have an updated greenhouse gas emissions inventory um what we see through that is that we are seeing a decrease in greenhouse gas emissions and we're looking at the same Focus areas based on that inventory so as council member dggs had mentioned that's again Transportation being one of the leading sectors for emissions how we power our buildings and so buildings energy generation and transportation with an underlying theme of Workforce Development that Danielle mentioned a little bit earlier we're also going to focus on a cross cutting category that does two things one is it highlights our connection with reduction of waste because waste is um a emitting sector um that based on some of our new data is clear that we need to make sure we're aligned with as we move forward and then we also have a climate risk analysis which is new um and that highlights the importance of continuing to move forward how we address Urban heat something that both is um of interest to the community and is one of our top risk factors in the city of Charlotte with all that said our the goals are um a couple new goals so CommunityWide it's to become Net Zero by 2050 right now it's two tons of co2e per person so that's a stronger goal than um than we had in the 2018 inventory and that's aligned with science then we have an interim Target which is new that shows us whether we're on track to hit that goal and that interim Target is by 2035 we also have a goal that sets out um how we go about doing that through energ energy generation and renewable energy in our community that's new and then the question to the municipal goals is we are now focusing on our light duty Fleet by 2035 with a goal of being zero carbon in our full Fleet by 2050 this is based on where we are today where technology is today and where we can make the biggest impact but still aligning with those 2050 goals and then retaining the goal to become zero carbon in our buildings by 2030 so that's a lot and I sort of just spout it all out but we can make sure that we put that down so it's a little bit easier to see in addition to the larger document yes I think that's very helpful because um I remember having this discussion back in 2018 when I chaired the environment committee where there was a debate even back then on our heavy Fleet because the question was like we don't have technology now right so um I think the majority wanted to have that as 2030 I I see because of the technology and how there would be challenges for us to meet the 2030 goal I see that now heavy Fleet is sort of like 2050 alignment with the larger community and have uh light Fleet which makes sense because there are there is technology available now and we can do that um there was a debate on that back back there as well so well I look forward to reviewing the side by side comparison I think that would be helpful and I think it's important that we are clarifying that we are using this energy generation because some people uh you know when you hear from CF experts some of them do not want us to offset right through energy generation but I think clarifying that would be important uh as part of our overall CF exercise from transparency perspective uh and I appreciate all your work on the CF dashboard uh I get lot of uh compliments on that because it just shows um transparency on in terms of how we where we are in terms of meeting our 2030 goal which is currently and that's going to change but thank you I look forward to reviewing that side by side and I might have questions I'll I'll reach out to you thank you uh so so uh now my second question is on um Bill uh that that was your second update Mr DRS so I know that so there since there are two bills one is the sales tax portion and one is the governing structure you know I I'm concerned about if one getting one gets approved and the other one does not um and I and I've I've you know I hear that concerns from some of the folks who really want to see this go through uh has the committee discussed anything around that so the committee hasn't right I mean this was filed last week we had a little conversation I reported it out today um I think from my conversations with leaders in Raleigh there is an understanding that one of these doesn't make much sense without the other one so uh we're expecting the governance Bill to get filed and acted on uh kind of in tandem like again they're related so I I I would say I don't think that's a big concern um and uh you know that if we got the authority to do the I think members of the MTC would be reluctant to move ahead with the referendum if we didn't have the governance issues also in hand got it and I uh do we have any update from our lobbying lobbyist team uh in terms of how is their um how is their lobbying efforts going we have certainly uh State lobbyist team well Dana but as well as um um if forget the name of um John and I forget the name of the company uh but it would be good to have an update from them in terms of how is that going and what can we do to support that there is a team there's engagement going on by a couple of people we've worked with very closely throughout here uh and some corporate also uh conversations and I heard a fair amount of feedback myself in Raleigh I spent the whole day there the day of the league dinner um so that's what's coming back uh everybody up there is being a little cautious about making predictions partly because uh when the fullblown conversation starts then uh demands could be made by certain members or trades could be made on votes I mean this is just kind of how it gets done and the other issue is the house has a lot of new members and the new speaker so I think there is some genuine uncertainty not not just sort of risk but but they just don't know know exactly what could come up uh I think we're fortunate that uh uh representative cam uh has expressed support or interest in seeing this get done she too is waiting to see what might occur as it moves through the house so I don't know there's a huge amount of information available that we don't have I think we are in an environment of wait and see right now okay thank you and I can I want to comment if I can Madam mayor and and the devil are in the detail and I think as a community we need to continue the the path we're on um great corporate support uh and participation by continuing to talk to the leaders uh secondly working in a bipartisan fashion with both sides of the alows our local delegation as well as the bill sponsors being very visible uh and Raley um just to say hey how you doing Mr Dre has been doing a a really really good job of that for sure uh and then uh a level of patience um that we would have to have because it's going to be a long out process my only unreadiness is the unknown right and um that's why it's really important uh that you read the bill line by line because every word matters but F4 they all mean something uh and then obviously uh the UN file bill which is the The Authority right and and the governance structure uh that's that's unknown at this point and that's where I think the um where the rub is going to come in at I would just note if I may M mayor that uh the indication we got was that the two bills represent really no more than a separation so the language in each bill is pretty much the same as of the language that was in our bill but they did the separation so that one could be public and the other could be local okay and I wanted to ask about CA and the as we were talking about how we were trying to combine things and make sure that everything could work together I wonder about the housing um policies that we have do we have policies that's are within our CA plan for the kinds of materials that we want people to use and build with um and I say this because I saw a a family in Greer High who actually um Chang their heating and air conditioning system and save them enough money to put their kid in child care these are the kind of things that we know about so Sarah is there any connection that we have so that people don't have to end up paying a d i shouldn't say an energy bill I mean Bill like cash that for the winter because we don't have the right materials in the housing that we're building so um one of the new strategies builds off of the work that housing and Neighborhood Services is doing with our partnership with Duke Energy which matches critical home repair with deep energy retrofits so using better materials then also doing those upfits to reduce energy so people are healthier and also save resources so we're working to build off of some of the work that we've already been doing but but really sort of um cautify it in this plan so that we can further explore more opportunities as they arise well that that's really good news to know I think that that's part of what we ought to be trying to intersect um to make sure that we can you know the plant the trees as well as build the houses that will make them safe and sound for a long time so thank you all right M Miss Molina um thank you Madame mayor I'll be brief and I just I want to say with regards to the seat program I know that it's actually evolving and that's kind of the way that I see it right I and I I think when we um one of the things that I like for us to think about as a body when we say that we're going to adopt a policy is it doing exactly what the capap is doing right now I think as time goes on and as we learn more things our policies and the way in which we would Endeavor to do them they have to evolve right and so although there may be some comparison as far as a side by side is concerned etc etc I think I'm encouraged I I don't like the idea of us saying it was done this way and no offense but in 2018 and so now in 2025 we should Endeavor to do it the same way I'm sure that in that time frame we've learned a ton of stuff and what I hope that we would do as this Council and you know um as you know use the information that we've learned uh to make decisions and I think a lot of those decisions would lend themselves to being more quantitative right we know enough about what we can measure from the city's perspective in my personal opinion and I'd like to see us you know take a look at that too so I like to see it evolving um I think that the evolution is a good thing all right could I just know mayor too in my dealings with the staff on environment transportation and planning the awareness that they all have of each other and of the interdependence of these Enterprises has been very impressive they're doing in incredible work all right so do I have a motion second and now we're adjourned thank you I'm doing my [Music] [Music] e