>>COUN. BORREGO: GOOD EVENING, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN AND COUNCILORS. TONIGHT WE HAVE OUR 39th MEETING OF THE 24th COUNCIL. I WILL CALL OUR MEETING TO ORDER. ALL OF OUR COUNCILORS ARE PRESENT. WE HAVE TWO COUNCILORS THAT WILL BE JOINING US A LITTLE BIT LATE THIS EVENING. COUNCILOR HARRIS, AND COUNCILOR BENTON. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO A MOMENT OF SILENCE. I'LL LEAD THAT MOMENT OF SILENCE TONIGHT. I WOULD LIKE TO DEDICATE OUR MOMENT OF SILENCE TO BENNY HARGRAVE, THE 13-YEAR-OLD WASHINGTON MIDDLE SCHOOL YOUNG MAN WHO WAS RECENTLY KILLED. I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO DEDICATE A MOMENT OF SILENCE TO THE PEOPLE OF HAITI AND THE PEOPLE OF AFGHANISTAN. WOULD YOU JOIN ME, COUNCILORS FOR JUST THAT MOMENT? [ MOMENT OF SILENCE ]. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, SO MUCH COUNCILORS. TONIGHT, I'LL ASK COUNCILOR SENA IF SHE WOULD LEAD US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IN ENGLISH. COUNCILOR SENA. >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE, WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SENA. COUNCILOR BASSAN, WOULD YOU LEAD US WITH THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE IN SPANISH? >>COUN. BASSAN: [ RECITING THE PLEDGE IN SPANISH ]. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN. WITH THAT, COUNCILORS, I AM GOING TO BE READING SOME INFORMATION FOR THE PUBLIC INTO THE RECORD. AS WAS NOTED IN A PRESS RELEASE FROM OUR OFFICE ON FRIDAY, POSTED ON THE WEBSITE AND NOTICED ON THE PUBLISHED COUNCIL AGENDA, THIS MEETING HAS SPECIAL PROCEDURES AND IS BEING HELD VIA ZOOM VIDEO CONFERENCE. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, CITY STAFF, AND MEDIA HAVE THE ABILITY TO VIEW THIS LIFE THROUGH FOUR DIFFERENT PLATFORMS. GOVTV ON COMCAST CHANNEL 16. THE GOVTV WEBSITE, YOUTUBE AND ZOOM WEBINAR. THESE LIVESTREAMS CAN BE ACCESSED FROM MOST SMART PHONES, TABLETS OR COMPUTERS. ALSO THIS MEETING IS CLOSED CAPTIONED AND YOU MAY ENABLE THE CLOSED CAPTIONING SERVICES ON YOUR TELEVISION OR DEVICE. FOR THOSE WATCH ON THE LIVE STREAM, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. THE RECORDING OF THIS WILL REMAIN AVAILABLE FOR VIEWING ON THE CITY COUNCIL'S WEBSITE. COUNCIL STAFF IS AVAILABLE VIA TELEPHONE IF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC NEED ASSISTANCE FINDING THE VIDEOS ONLINE. PLEASE CALL 768-3100 DURING BUSINESS HOURS, MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY 8 A.M. TO 5 P.M. THE COUNCIL IS ACCEPTING LIVE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY AS WELL AS ANY WRITTEN COMMENTS. WRITTEN COMMENTS RECEIVED BY 3 P.M. WERE DISTRIBUTED TO ALL COUNCILORS IN ADVANCE OF TODAY'S MEETING. AND THANK YOU, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, FOR JOINING US. WE ARE GOING TO BEGIN OUR AGENDA WITH PROCLAMATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS. AND THIS EVENING, WE HAVE SEVERAL PRESENTATIONS. I WOULD ASK THE PUBLIC TO BE PATIENT WITH US REGARDING THE PRESENTATIONS BECAUSE THEY'RE ALL VERY IMPORTANT TO US AND INFORMATION WE RECEIVE. WE'LL START THIS EVENING WITH GRANT FUNDS UPDATE. MS. BEDFORD, ARE YOU THERE? >> YES. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. MY NAME IS NICOLE, I'M THE COMMUNITY LIAISON FOR THE BLACK COMMUNITY INVESTMENT FUND. I'M HERE TO GIVE A PRESENTATION OF HOW THE FUND WAS ORGANIZED. I WANT TO START WITH A TIMELINE. THE TIMELINE IS HOW THE BLACK COMMUNITY INVESTMENT FUND CAME TOGETHER. AND FROM NOVEMBER TO DECEMBER THE COMMUNITY LIAISON WAS HIRED AND WE FORMULATED A STEERING COMMITTEE. LET'S SEE IF THEY CAN GO TO THE THIRD SLIDE. FROM MARCH THROUGH MAY THE COMMITTEE MET EVERY WEEK. DURING THOSE MEETINGS A SURVEY WAS CREATED TO ESTABLISH FEEDBACK FROM THE COMMUNITY AND ESTABLISHED COMMUNICATION AND PROCESS FOR THE GRANT APPLICATION. WE CREATED A TIMELINE FOR THE GRANT PROCESS. WHAT WE CAME UP WITH ORIGINAL DEADLINE FOR THE APPLICATION WAS SET FOR THE 15th OF MAY. OUR GOAL WAS TO HAVE MONEY DISTRIBUTED BY JUNE 30th. THAT WAS PUT ON HOLD BECAUSE THE CITY AND ONE ALBUQUERQUE FUND NEEDED TO FINALIZE THE AGREEMENT. ONCE THE AGREEMENT WAS SIGNED THERE WAS AN ADDENDMENT TO THE AGREEMENT. YOU CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, SORRY. THE AGREEMENT WAS SIGNED ON JUNE 18th. THE APPLICATION WENT OUT JUNE 19 THROUGH JULY 19th. ALL THE APPLICATIONS HAD TO BE TURNED IN BY JULY 19th BY 5 P.M. THE STEERING COMMITTEE STARTED MEETING IN SUBGROUPS TO REVIEW THE APPLICATION. ON JULY 23rd ONE ALBUQUERQUE FUND RECEIVED THE GRANT MONEY. ALL APPLICATIONS WILL BE REVIEWED BY AUGUST 20th. AND RECOMMENDED APPLICATIONS WILL BE APPROVED BY THE ONE ALBUQUERQUE FUND BOARD BY AUGUST 25th. IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, FROM SEPTEMBER TO DECEMBER 2021 AWARD LETTERS WILL GO OUT TO ALL AWARDES, FUNDING WILL BE DISTRIBUTED TO THOSE WHO TURN IN W-9s. THE DEADLINE TO BE TURNED IN IS THE SECOND WEEK IN SEPTEMBER. WE ARE PLANNING TO GET ALL FUNDING OUT BY THE END OF SEPTEMBER. THE STEERING COMMITTEE WILL MEET WITH COMMUNITY MEMBERS TO DISCUSS POSSIBLE INVESTMENTS WITHIN THE BLACK COMMUNITY. AND THE SECOND PHASE OF THE MONEY WILL START IN NOVEMBER WHICH HANDS OUT MONEY FOR START-UP BUSINESSES. AND ALL AWARDEES WILL TURN IN THE FIRST REPORT BY DECEMBER 31st. THAT'S THE FIRST PHASE OF THE TIMELINE WITH THE BLACK COMMUNITY INVESTMENT FUND. IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, AS I DISCUSSED EARLIER THE STEERING COMMITTEE MET AND WE PUT TOGETHER CRITERIA FOR THE BLACK COMMUNITY INVESTMENT FUND. WITH THE CRITERIA EACH BUSINESS HAD THE ABILITY TO OBTAIN 145 POINTS. AND THE NON-PROFITS HAD THE PROBABILITY OF ESTABLISHING 125 POINTS. ALL APPLICATIONS WERE GRADED ON CLARITY OF THE APPLICATION, QUALITY AND EFFECTIVENESS, AND THE BUSINESS OR ORGANIZATION BLACK-OWNED. FOR BUSINESSES, THE CRITERIA WAS BASED OFF OF IMPACT BUSINESSES HAD DURING THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC. BUSINESSES NEED DUE TO THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC AND HOW IS THE BUSINESS SURVIVING DURING THE COVID-19? FOR ORGANIZATION OR NON-PROFITS, THEY WERE BASED OFF OF THE IMPACT ORGANIZATION HAD ON THE BLACK COMMUNITY. HOW IS THE ORGANIZATION ESSENTIAL TO THE BLACK COMMUNITY AND HOW IS THE ORGANIZATION SURVIVING DURING THE COVID-19 PANDEMIC. IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE IT WILL SHOW THE AWARD AMOUNT. FOR BUSINESSES, ANY BUSINESS THAT SCORED 130 TO 145 WAS ABLE TO OBTAIN 20 TO $30,000. IF THEY SCORED 114 TO 129 THEY GOT $14,000 TO 20,000. FOR NON-PROFITS, IF THEY SCORED BETWEEN 115 AND 125 THEY WERE ABLE TO OBTAIN $15,000 TO $20,000. AND 93 TO 113 WAS $2,000 TO $5,000. THE APPLICATION CATEGORIES, THE CATEGORIES THAT WERE OUT THERE, AND MOST OF THE APPLICATIONS THAT APPLIED, BUT WHAT WE WERE BASING IT OFF OF STEM TECH PROGRAMS. RETAILS, FOOD SERVICES, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, PERSONAL CARE, MARKETING, AND ARTS AND ENTERTAINMENT. THOSE WERE THE MAJOR CATEGORIES THAT WE RECEIVED AND BASED THE APPLICATIONS OFF OF. IF YOU GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, THIS DISTRIBUTION PHASE. THIS IS THE FIRST PHASE WE'RE LOOKING AT IN DISTRIBUTION OF THE MONEY. WHAT WE RECEIVED ON JULY 19th WE HAD 110 BUSINESS APPLICATIONS TO APPLY. NINE NON-PROFIT APPLICATIONS. WE HAD A TOTAL OF 119 APPLICATIONS. 52 APPLICATIONS HAVE BEEN REVIEWED AND RANKED. 18 ARE READY FOR APPROVAL FROM THE ONE ALBUQUERQUE FUND BOARD. 13 HAVE BEEN DENIED, AND 21 NEED REVISION. WHAT WE MEAN BY THAT IS WE NEED MORE DETAIL ON TAX INFORMATION. AND ALSO CLARIFICATION WITH ANY OF THE FORMS THEY SUBMITTED WITH THE APPLICATION. 54 APPLICATIONS STILL NEED TO BE REVIEWED. THOSE APPLICATIONS WOULD BE REVIEWED FROM THE WEEK OF AUGUST 16th THROUGH THE 20th. ALL RECOMMENDED APPLICATIONS WILL BE APROVED, REVIEWED, BY THE ONE ALBUQUERQUE FUND BOARD ON AUGUST 25th. DISTRIBUTIONS WILL BE MADE BY THE END OF SEPTEMBER. WITH THE DISTRIBUTION, THE BUSINESSES AND ORGANIZATIONS HAVE TO SPEND THE MONEY. IF THEY RECEIVE THE MONEY IN SEPTEMBER, THEY HAVE TO GIVE A REPORT DECEMBER 31st OF 2021. THE NEXT REPORT IS DUE BY MARCH 31 OF 2022. AND THEY HAVE THE FINAL REPORT TURNED IN DECEMBER 31st, 2022. ALSO WE LET THE BUSINESSES AND ORGANIZATIONS KNOW THEY'RE UP FOR A SITE VISIT IF NEED BE. WE CONDUCT SITE VISITS WITH ALL THESE BUSINESSES. AND THE NEXT SLIDE, PLEASE. THE SECOND PHASE, BECAUSE I'VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT FIRST PHASE. THE SECOND PHASE IS ANOTHER PORTION OF THE MONEY THAT WOULD BE INVESTED INTO THE COMMUNITY. THAT IS WHAT THE SECOND PHASE WOULD BE IS COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT. WITHIN THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT WE WANT TO DO A TRAINING FOR BUSINESSES. WE FOUND A LOT OF THE APPLICATIONS THAT SOME BUSINESSES WOULD NEED JUST A LITTLE BIT MORE TRAINING IN HELPLING THEM TO SUSTAIN THAT BUSINESS. WHAT WE WANT TO DO, NOT JUST WITH THE START UP BUSINESSES, BUT BUSINESSES THAT NEED THAT EXTRA HELP, WE WANT TO DEVELOP AN INCUBATOR. WE WANT TO PARTNER AND BRING MORE OF THE BUSINESSES AND START-UP BUSINESSES THAT ARE OUTSIDE OF THE INTERNATIONAL DISTRICT. THOSE BUSINESSES GO THROUGH THAT PERIOD IN ORDER TO RECEIVE THE FUNDING. IT WOULD BE A TWO-MONTH PERIOD THEY WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH BEFORE THEY WOULD RECEIVE ANY FUNDING. ALSO WITH COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT IS HOMEOWNERSHIP. WE WANTED TO WORK WITH THE DISTRICTS THAT AFRICAN-AMERICANS HAVE THE HOMEOWNERSHIP. WE WANT TO WORK WITH THAT IN OUR COMMUNITY IN GETTING MORE AFRICAN-AMERICANS TO OWN HOMES. WE ALSO WERE LOOKING AT POSSIBLE MATCHING FUNDS. WE'RE WORKING WITH THE KELLOGG FOUNDATIONS TO MATCH THE FUNDS. AND WE'RE LOOKING INTO COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FINANCIAL INSTITUTE TO HELP US WITH THE HOMEOWNERSHIP. THAT CONSISTS OF BUYING OLD PROPERTIES, FIXING THEM UP AND HAVING AFRICAN-AMERICAN FAMILIES PURCHASING THOSE HOMES. WE WANT TO WORK WITH THE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FINANCIAL INSTITUTE. ALL OF THIS IS TO HELP REVITALIZE THE BLACK COMMUNITY. I THINK THAT'S THE LAST OF MY SLIDES. IF THERE'S ANY QUESTIONS? >>COUN. BORREGO: SORRY, I'M MUTED. I SEE A QUESTION FROM COUNCILOR JONES, COUNCILOR SENA, AND COUNCILOR GIBSON IS RAISING HER HAND AS WELL. I THINK WE'LL GO IN THAT ORDER. COUNCILOR JONES. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I MUST SAY THAT WAS A WONDERFUL PRESENTATION. I'M IMPRESSED WITH THE CONTENT AND HOW MUCH INFORMATION YOU GAVE US. AND TALKING A LITTLE BIT ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED. YOUR EXPLANATION IS MAGNIFICENT. I'M PLEASED TO SEE IT COVERING SO MANY DIFFERENT AREAS. I HOPE IN THE FUTURE YOU VISIT US AGAIN AND GIVE US AN UPDATE ON HOW THE RECIPIENTS HAVE DONE AND HOW IT HAS HELPED THEM WITH BUSINESSES GOING FORWARD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GREAT PRESENTATION. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. MOST DEFINITELY, I WOULD LIKE TO COME AND GIVE A REPORT ON THE SUCCESS THAT WE HAD. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR SENA. >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, MS. BEDFORD FOR THAT PRESENTATION AND UPDATE. I HAD A FEW QUESTIONS IN TERMS OF WHAT IT IS EXACTLY THAT FALLS OR ENTAILS FOR THE SITE VISIT? A LOT OF OUR OTHER GRANTS DON'T HAVE SITE VISITS. MY SECOND COMMENT, HOMEOWNERSHIP IS SOMETHING THAT I LOVE AND SUPPORT. JUST KNOWING OUR OWN HISTORY WITHIN ALBUQUERQUE WHERE WHETHER YOU'RE ASIAN AMERICAN OR AFRICAN-AMERICAN THERE'S LANGUAGE THAT EXISTS THAT PERMITS PEOPLE OF ASIAN OR BLACK DESCENT TO LIVE ON CERTAIN PROPERTY. I THINK PUSHING AND THINKING ABOUT OUR OWN HISTORY, WE NEED TO ADDRESS THESE ISSUES AND HIGHLIGHT AND BRING ABOUT HOW WE START THAT. IF YOU CAN ELABORATE A LITTLE BIT ON THE HOME OWNERSHIP SIDE. HOW ELSE ARE WE GETTING ASSISTANCE FOR PEOPLE TO APPLY FOR THESE GRANTS? >> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SENA. WITH THE HISTORY IN NEW MEXICO AND ALBUQUERQUE IT HAS BEEN HARD FOR MINORITIES TO OBTAIN HOMEOWNERSHIP. ONE WAY WE WERE LOOKING AT IS HABITAT FOR HUMANITY. AND THE WAY THEY DO PROGRAMS IS WITH THIS MONEY AND THE MATCHING FUNDS FROM OTHER FOUNDATIONS THEY WERE ABLE TO OBTAIN PROPERTIES OR ABANDONED HOMES AND DO THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE PROPERTIES AND BEING ABLE TO HAVE FAMILIES APPLY FOR THOSE. IF WE WORK WITH HOME WISE AND OTHER FOUNDATIONS AND WE'RE ABLE TO REALLY CHANGE THOSE PROPERTIES AND HAVE THAT ABILITY FOR HOMEOWNERSHIP FOR THE BLACK COMMUNITY, I THINK THAT WOULD HELP. I USED TO WORK WITH THE OFFICE OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN AFFAIRS AND WE WORKED IN THE AREA ON DOING EDUCATION ON HOMEOWNERSHIP AND HELPING FAMILIES WITH CREDIT TO OWN A HOPE. TH >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU FOR THE PRESENTATION. AND THANK YOU FOR THE GOOD PLAN AND GETTING IT OUT TO HELP PEOPLE WHO NEED IT. I'M PARTICULARLY EXCITED ABOUT YOUR INTEREST IN GETTING PEOPLE HOUSED. AND I THANK YOU FOR THAT. REALLY GLAD THAT YOU'RE WITH US TODAY AND THANK YOU FOR COMING. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCILOR GIBSON. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: MS. BEDFORD IT LOOKS LIKE COUNCILOR SENA HAS ANOTHER QUESTION. >>COUN. SENA: YES, THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I KNOW I ASKED TWO QUESTIONS, PUT I WAS CURIOUS, I WILL SAY IN TERMS OF HOMEOWNERSHIP I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S POSSIBLY EDUCATION BUT IT'S ALSO UNDERSTANDING SOME OF THE BARRIERS THAT THESE FAMILIES FACE IN OUR OWN EDUCATION. IF YOU EXPLAIN THE SITE VISITS. >> WITH THE SITE VISIT THE STEERING COMMITTEE HAD DECIDED TO DO SITE VISITS JUST TO SEE HOW THE BUSINESSES ARE UTILIZING FUNDS GIVEN TO THEM. ALSO JUST TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE RESOURCES, THE TRAINING THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO NOT ONLY USE THE FUNDS IN THE WAY THAT THEY HAD PUT DOWN IN THE APPLICATIONS, BUT ALSO JUST TO MAKE SURE THAT THEIR BUSINESS WOULD BE SUSTAINABLE ONCE THESE FUNDS RAN OUT. IT'S NOT A WHOLE LOT OF MONEY FOR THESE BUSINESSES, BUT IT'S SOMETHING TO HELP GET THEM THROUGH. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE EDUCATION AND MATERIALS THEY NEED TO BE ABLE TO CARRY ON AND BE SUCCESSFUL IN THE FUTURE. BY THE SITE VISIT IT'S NOT TO CHECK UP ON THEM, BUT IT'S REALLY TO MAKE SURE THEY HAVE THE TOOLS THEY NEED TO BE SUCCESSFUL. AND THAT THEY'RE ON TRACK AND SPENDING THE MONEY WITHIN THAT YEAR AS WELL. IT'S, I THINK, REALLY THE SITE VISIT IS A SUPPORT MECHANISM THAT WE PUT TOGETHER JUST TO LET THEM KNOW WE'RE NOT GIVING YOU THIS MONEY AND WE'RE DONE WITH YOU. WE'RE GIVING YOU THIS MONEY TO HELP YOU AND BE ABLE TO HELP YOU SUSTAIN YOUR BUSINESS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, MS. BEDFORD. I ALSO APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION YOU HAVE GIVEN US ON THIS GRANT PROGRAM. IN THE BEGINNING WE HAD LOTS OF QUESTIONS, IT REALLY APPEARS THAT IT'S BEEN VERY WELL-EXECUTED. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STAYED WITH ME WHEN YOU'RE GIVING YOUR PRESENTATION IS YOU WORK WITH OTHER ORGANIZATIONS AND OTHER AGENCIES OR COMPANIES OR WHATEVER. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CROSSED MY MIND WHEN YOU WERE TALKING WAS A LOT OF CREDIT UNIONS OFFER TRAINING. YOU MIGHT REACH OUT TO THE NEW MEXICO CREDIT UNION ASSOCIATION. I THINK JUAN FERNANDEZ IS THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR. HE WORKS WITH ALL CREDIT UNIONS ACROSS THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO. THAT MIGHT BE HELPFUL. BECAUSE THEY OFFER LOT OF TRAINING PROGRAMS FOR PEOPLE THAT ARE EITHER IN BUSINESS OR HOUSING PROGRAMS, OR REMAIN SUSTAINABLE. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DO THAT. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I SURE WILL. WE'RE LOOKING FOR OTHER RESOURCES. WE DON'T WANT TO DO THIS BY OURSELVES, IT WILL TAKE EVERYBODY. I WILL REACH OUT TO THEM. WE'VE ALWAYS TALKED WITH THE NEW MEXICO SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION AND DOING THE TRAINING PROGRAMS AS WELL. AND MANY RESOURCES THE COMMITTEE CAN HAVE TO GIVE OUT WOULD BE REALLY GREAT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. OUR BEST TO YOU AND THIS PROGRAM AS IT MOVES FORWARD. WITH THAT, THANK YOU. IF YOU HAVE ANY CLOSING REMARKS, YOU CAN ADDRESS THEM NOW OR WE WILL MOVE ON. >> THANK YOU. I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO GIVE YOU THE INFORMATION ABOUT THE BLACK COMMUNITY INVESTMENT FUND. I WILL KEEP YOU UPDATED ON HOW IT'S GOING. THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME THIS EVENING. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU SO MUCH. OKAY, COUNCILORS, WE'LL MOVE TO THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS. IT'S THE CASA UPDATE IT'S AN UPDATE THAT I CALLED FOR. IT'S IMPORTANT WE UPDATE OURSELVES AND MAKE SURE WE'RE HEARING THE SAME INFORMATION BUT ALSO THE PUBLIC IS UP TO DATE ON WHERE THE CASA IS. OF COURSE THE CASA HAS BEEN ONGOING FOR MANY YEARS. ALTHOUGH WE HAVE COME TO BE FOND OF SOME OF THE PEOPLE THAT ARE HERE FROM OUT OF STATE, WE WOULD LIKE NOTHING MORE TO ALSO SEE THEM EXIT AT SOME POINT AND TIME. WITH THAT, WE HAVE COMMANDER SANCHEZ. AND DEPUTY COMMANDER WAITS WHO WILL BE PRESENTING TO US THIS EVENING. I'M LOOKING TO SEE IF THEY'RE ON. THEY'RE IN THE CHIEF'S OFFICE. GOOD EVENING, COMMANDER SANCHEZ AND DEPUTY COMMANDER. >> GOOD EVENING. MY NAME IS JASON SANCHEZ. AND SHAUN COULD NOT BE WITH US THIS EVENING. >>COUN. BORREGO: OKAY, COMMANDER, WE HAVE YOUR DOWN AS OUR ARTURO SANCHEZ. I CAN'T SEE YOU. I COULDN'T RECOGNIZE THAT IT WASN'T HIM. GO AHEAD. WE LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR REPORT. >> OKAY. I DO HAVE A POWERPOINT PRESENTATION. I'M TRYING TO SHARE. FIRST OF ALL, THANK YOU FOR TAKING TIME OUT AND HEARING THIS PRESENTATION. I WANT TO FIRST, LIKE I SAID, MY NAME IS JASON SANCHEZ. I'M THE ACTING COMMANDER IN THE ACCOUNTABILITY AND ANALYTICS BURIO WITH THE ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT. I WANT TO PROVIDE A BRIEF UPDATE ON THE COURT APPROVED SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE ACTUAL SECTIONS OUTLINED IN THE CASA. MOST OF YOU ARE AWARE THAT IT HAS SEVERAL SECTIONS THAT GO FROM USE OF FORCE TO SPECIALIZED UNITS TO POLICY AND TRAINING, STAFFING, COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, AND SO ON AND SO FORTH. IF YOU LOOK AT THE CASA IN HOLISTIC FASHION YOU HAVE 344 PARAGRAPHS IN TOTAL. OF THOSE 344 PARAGRAPHS YOU HAVE 276 PARAGRAPHS THAT ARE MEASURABLE FOR COMPLIANCE EFFORTS. THAT IS WHAT THE INDEPENDENT MONITORING TEAM USES TO USE AS A REPORT CARD. OR HOW THE DEPARTMENT IS GOING TOWARD COMPLIANCE EFFORTS. TO UNDERSTAND THAT, WE HAVE TO UNDERSTAND THERE'S THREE DIFFERENT LEVELS OF COMPLIANCE. PRIMARY COMPLIANCE, WHICH MEANS WE HAVE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES IN PLACE AND IN LINE WITH THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. THEN YOU HAVE SECONDARY COMPLIANCE, WHICH MEANS NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES, IN PLACE, YOU HAVE AN EFFECTIVE TRAINING REGIMENT THAT SUPPORTS THOSE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES. THIRD, YOU HAVE OPERATIONAL COMPLIANCE. THAT MEANS THAT NOT ONLY DO YOU HAVE POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AN EFFECTIVE TRAINING REGIMENT YOU HAVE AN INSTITUTED CULTURAL ACCOUNTABILITY WITHIN DEPARTMENT WORK. THESE ARE THE DAY TO DAY ACTIONS OF HOW THE DEPARTMENT CONDUCTS BUSINESS. MOVING ON, I WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. IN THAT SLIDE YOU'LL SEE THIS BAR GRAPH. THIS IS HIGHLIGHTING WHAT WE'VE DONE AS A DEPARTMENT SINCE THE MONITOR'S FIRST REPORT WHICH CAME OUT IN 2015. YOU'LL SEE THERE ARE ACTUALLY 12 REPORTS. I DID NOT -- WE DID NOT LEAVE OUT IMR7. THERE WAS NO REPORT PRODUCED FOR THAT PARTICULAR PERIOD IN TIME. AND I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT YOUR ATTENTION TO THE NAVY BLUE. THOSE ARE THE PRIMARY COMPLIANCE PARAGRAPHS. YOU'LL SEE IN 2018 WE BECAME 100% COMPLAINT. THEN YOU LOOK AT THE LIGHT BLUE, YOU'LL SEE THAT TREND UNTIL IMR11. AND OUR THIRD WAY OF MEASURING IS GOING TO BE OPERATIONAL COMPLIANCE. I WANT TO FOCUS REALLY ON IMR12 AND 13. BECAUSE THAT IS WHERE YOU CAN SEE A LITTLE BIT OF A DROP-OFF. WE WANT TO IDENTIFY WHAT ARE THE REASONS WHY WE SAW A DECREASE IN COMPLIANCE IN SECONDARY AND OPERATIONAL COMPLIANCE INITIATIVES. LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE AND THAT CAN HIGHLIGHT A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THAT. AS I MENTIONED WE'RE STILL IN PRIMARY COMPLIANCE FROM IMR12 AND 13. HOWEVER OUR SECONDARY COMPLIANCE EXPERIENCED A LOSS OF 9.9%. THIS IS LARGELY DUE TO DECREASED COMPLIANCE IN USE OF FORCE TECHNIQUES REPORTING INVESTIGATIONS AND TRAINING. SAME THING IS GOING TO BE GOING ON WITH OPERATIONAL COMPLIANCE. WE LOST 7.8% IN THIS AREA. AND AGAIN THIS IS LARGELY DUE TO THE DECREASED COMPLIANCE IN OUR PROCEDURES, OUR FORCE INVESTIGATION TRAINING, CRISIS INTERVENTION STAFFING AND USAGE, DISCIPLINE REPORTING AND SUPERVISION. MOVING ON TO THE NEXT SLIDE, I DON'T WANT TO SPEND TOO MUCH TIME ON THIS SLIDE. THIS IS MORE FOR GRAPHING A MORE ANALYTICAL APPROACH WITH THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. IF YOU REMEMBER ON THE SECOND SLIDE, WE TALKED ABOUT THE ACTUAL SECTIONS, THIS SLIDE IS TO SHOW FOUR OF THE SECTIONS OF THE CASA MEASURES. I WANT YOU TO PAY ATTENTION TO THE TOP LEFT TABLE FOR USE OF FORCE. IN THAT TABLE YOU'LL SEE A TOTAL NUMBER OF PARAGRAPHS THAT WE SAW AN INCREASE IN COMPLIANCE. WE SAW THREE PARAGRAPHS WHERE WE WENT FROM PRIMARY TO SECONDARY OR SECONDARY TO OPERATIONAL. WE EXPERIENCED THREE. WE SAW HAD 44 PARAGRAPHS WITH NO CHANGE. AND WE SAW 29 PARAGRAPHS THAT DECREASED COMPLIANCE OF USE OF FORCE. LET'S GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE AND GET A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF THE 29 PARAGRAPHS WITH DECREASE IN COMPLIANCE. IF YOU LOOK AT THOSE 29 PARAGRAPHS, YOU'LL SEE CERTAIN THINGS THAT MAKE THEM PREVALENT. WEAPONS PROTOCOLS, CLASSIFICATIONS TRAINING REPORTING AND INVESTIGATION WHEN IT COMES TO USE OF FORCE. AS WELL AS THINGS SUCH AS CRISIS INTERVENTION STAFFING AND DATA COLLECTION. THE NEXT SLIDE, I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT NOW THAT WE KNOW SOME OF THE THINGS OF WHAT'S OCCURRING, WHAT ARE SOME OF THE THINGS THE DEPARTMENT HAS DONE TO INCREASE OUR EFFORTS TOWARD COMPLIANCE. I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT OUR EXTERNAL FORCE INVESTIGATIVE TEAM. THIS TEAM WAS CONTRACTED AND FULLY OPERATIONAL BEGINNING JULY 16th OF 2021. IT'S MADE UP OF 12 INVESTIGATORS WITH DIVERSE BACKGROUNDS FROM ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. THEY'RE ASSIGNED TO A TEAM. THEIR EXPECTATIONS ARE TO MENTOR AND TRAIN THE CURRENT DETECTIVES THAT DO FORCE INVESTIGATIONS TO DO TIMELY AND THOROUGH USE OF FORCE INVESTIGATIONS. OUR NEXT SLIDE, I WANT TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME TRAINING INITIATIVES THAT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO IMPROVE UPON. AS MANY OF YOU KNOW, HAVE EXPERIENCED YOURSELVES, 2020 PROVED TO BE A VERY DIFFICULT YEAR FOR TRAINING. SPECIFICALLY, IT HAMPERED THE DEPARTMENT AND CAUSED AN INABILITY TO PROVIDE IN-PERSON TRAINING THAT WAS NECESSARY FOR SOME OF THE PARAGRAPHS. ACTUALLY, IT RESULTED IN A LOSS OF COMPLIANCE BECAUSE OF THIS TRAINING IN SEVERAL PARAGRAPHS. AGAIN, TO COMBAT THAT WE AT THE DEPARTMENT HAVE FOUR TIERS OF USE OF FORCE TRAINING THAT THE OFFICERS ARE GOING TO BE COMPLETING. WE'VE COMPLETED TIERS ONE THROUGH THREE. TIER FOUR IS THE ONE WE'RE GOING THROUGH RIGHT NOW. TIER FOUR HAS TWO DIFFERENT PHASES OF TRAINING. WE HAVE ALREADY COMPLETED PHASE ONE OF TIER FOUR. THAT WAS COMPLETED JULY 31, 2021. WE ANTICIPATE TO BE COMPLETED WITH TIER FOUR BY DECEMBER 31, 2021. THAT'S VERY GOOD NEWS. I'M ALSO HAPPY TO SAY WE RECENTLY HIRED A NEW TRAINING COMMANDER THAT IS CURRENTLY WORKING AT THE ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT TRAINING ACADEMY. THIS PERSON IS HIGHLY RESPECTED. SHE COMES FROM THE FBI AND HAS BACKGROUND IN CURRICULUM DEVELOPMENT AND TRAINING. I THINK SHE HAS THE SKILL AND THE LEADERSHIP ABILITY NECESSARY TO REALLY BRING FORTH THIS MODERN ERA WE NEED WITH APD. OUR NEXT SLIDE IS GOING TO DEAL WITH OUR CRISIS INTERVENTION TEAM. THIS GOES HAND AND HAND WITH OUR TRAINING SHORTFALLS. WE'RE NOW HAVING A TWO-HOUR MANDATORY RESPONSE TO MENTAL HEALTH REFRESHER. THAT IS GOING TO BE HELD AND WE EXPECT THAT EVERY CIT OFFICER BE ABLE TO GO THROUGH THAT TWO-HOUR TRAINING BY JANUARY 21, 2022. IT WILL HELP GETTING A FOOTING TOWARD COMPLIANCE MEASURES. OUR NEXT SLIDE DEALS WITH POLICIES. I BRING THIS SLIDE TO OUR ATTENTION BECAUSE IF YOU LOOK AT THE CASA, IF YOU LOOK AT THE CORNERSTONE POLICIES, THINGS THAT ARE IMPORTANT TO CASA COMPLIANCE ARE RELATED TO THE PERSONAL CODE OF CONDUCT AND DISCIPLINE SYSTEM. IT WAS REVAMPED AND MODERNIZED. IF AN OFFICER COMMITS A PERSONAL CODE OF CONDUCT VIOLATION, WE SEE SOMETIMES SANCTIONS HAVE BEEN NOT WHAT THEY SHOULD BE. NOT FAIR OR EQUITABLE OR NOT HOLDING THE OFFICER ACCOUNTABLE. WE REVAMPED TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE FAIR AND THEY'RE BEING HELD ACCOUNTABLE TO THE SANCTION LEVEL. IN LINE WITH THE PERSONAL CODE OF CONDUCT IS DISCIPLINE POLICY. THAT DISCIPLINE POLICY HAS WHAT IS CALLED A CHART OF SANCTIONS, WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO GOVERN WHAT DISCIPLINE COMES WHEN AN OFFICER COMMITMENTS A POLICY INFRACTION. THAT CHART OF SANCTION HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS AND WAS IN DIRE NEED OF AN UPDATE. SOMETHING IN LINE WITH BEST PRACTICES THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. WE THINK AS A DEPARTMENT WE HAVE IMPROVED THAT DISCIPLINE SYSTEM TO BE FAIR. WE'VE ALSO BEEN ABLE TO PARSE THROUGH AND DRAW OUT WHAT'S A PERFORMANCE RELATED ISSUE VERSUS WHAT IS MISCONDUCT. AND WE'RE HOPING THAT DISCIPLINE POLICY, WHICH IS PROBABLY A FEW WEEKS, MAYBE ABOUT A MONTH OLD, WILL TAKE US. WE'RE HOPING THAT WILL HAVE POSITIVE IMPACT FOR THE COMMUNITY AND DEPARTMENT. OUR SOP RESOLVING COMPLAINTS INVOLVING DEPARTMENT PERSONNEL HAS BEEN DRAFTED. IT'S SITTING WITH DR. GINGER AND THE DOJ WAITING FOR THEIR COMMENTS. LASTLY, BUT DEFINITELY NOT LEAST, I WANT TO GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE WHICH TALKS ABOUT THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND SOME OF THE INITIATIVES WE'VE MADE IN THIS AREA. WE'RE NOT DONE. WE HAVE A LOT TO GO TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS PARTICULAR TOPIC. I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT OUR EFFORTS TOWARD OUR COMMUNITY POLICING COUNSELS. I TALKED TO POLICY OWNERS FOR THIS PARTICULAR PARAGRAPH. THEY'RE EXCITED ABOUT RESTRUCTURE WHEN IT COMES TO RECOMMENDATION AND REFERRALS COMING OUT OF THE COUNCILS. THAT'S UNDER CONSTRUCTION. WE'RE HOPING TO GET THAT UP VERY SOON. ONE THING THAT DID TAKE EFFECT ON AUGUST OF 1 WAS THE IMPLEMENTATION OF OUR OUTREACH TRACKING APP. THIS WILL HOPEFULLY ALLOW AREA COMMANDERS AND THE COMMUNITY TO GET A BETTER PULSE OF WHAT'S GOING ON DURING THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION MEETINGS. WHAT'S HAPPENING, WHAT SOLUTIONS ARE THE COMMUNITY AND POLICE DEPARTMENT COMING WITH TOGETHER AND WHAT RESPONSE THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS DOING. THIS WAY, IT WILL FOSTER MORE COMMUNICATION BETWEEN THE AREA COMMAND AND THOSE COMMUNITIES THAT ARE WITHIN EACH SPECIFIC AREA COMMAND. AGAIN, I WANT TO -- THAT IS A QUICK SUMMATION OF WHERE WE'RE AT. WE CAN GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE, IF ANYONE HAS QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS, I'M ALL EARS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. IT LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE COUNCILOR GIBSON, COUNCILOR BASSAN. COUNCILOR GIBSON, WOULD YOU LIKE TO GO AHEAD? >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU. I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION, THIS IS ABOUT THE CRISIS INTERVENTION TRAINING. I UNDERSTAND -- I SHOULD ASK THIS INSTEAD OF TELLING WHAT I THINK I HEARD. ARE ALL OFFICERS GOING TO BE GIVEN A TRAINING BEFORE THE END OF THE YEAR RELATED TO CRISIS INTERVENTION OR THIS IS JUST FOR SPECIFIC SPECIALIZED OFFICERS WHO DO THIS TYPE OF WORK? >> I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION, COUNCILOR GIBSON. YES, THIS IS GOING TO BE FOR ALL OFFICERS. THIS IS TWO-HOUR REFRESHER TRAINING. THAT'S WHAT THIS WILL SERVE AS. >>COUN. GIBSON: RIGHT. I HAVE A SECOND QUESTION. IS IT STILL A PRACTICE OF THE DEPARTMENT TO GIVE INITIAL CIP TRAINING FOR OFFICERS COMING IN? >> YES, THAT'S CORRECT. EACH OFFICER WILL GET CIT TRAINED, BUT WITH EVERYTHING WE LOOKED AT AS A DEPARTMENT WE WANT TO LOOK AT BEST PRACTICES. THIS IS A PRACTICE WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT CRISIS INTERVENTION. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS CONSTANTLY EVOLVING. THESE TWO-HOUR REFRESHER TRAININGS ARE VALUABLE BECAUSE IT ALLOWS US TO BE ON TRENDS NATION WIDE. >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GIBSON. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I AM A HUGE FAN OF TRAINING, AS I THINK EVERYBODY HAS HEARD, AND I'M WONDERING, ONE OF THE QUESTIONS -- CAN YOU CONFIRM ARE THE INVESTIGATORS, ARE THEY ALL SWORN OR CIVILIAN? OR IS IT A COMBINATION? >> ALL THE INVESTIGATORS ARE CIVILIAN EMPLOYEES. THEY ARE NOT SWORN ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENTS OFFICERS. HOWEVER, THE OUTCOME FROM THE CAPACITY OF SERVING IN THE LAW ENFORCEMENT IN THE PREVIOUS CAREERS. A LOT OF THE INVESTIGATORS COME WITH GREAT AND VAST EXPERIENCE FROM OTHER INTERNAL AFFAIRS FROM THROUGHOUT THE COUNTRY. THEY WILL BE ABLE TO HELP MENTOR OR MOLD THESE YOUNG INVESTIGATORS THAT ARE IN THE FORCE DIVISION TO HELP PROVIDE A GOOD QUALITY WORK PRODUCT THAT THE COMMUNITY AND DEPARTMENT REQUIRES OF THEM. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. MY REQUEST IS, DID YOU SAY COMMANDER MCDERMOTT IS THE NEW TRAINER? >> YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: I WOULD LOVE SOMEBODY TO HAVE HER REACH OUT TO ME WHEN SHE GETS SETTLED AND WE CAN TALK ABOUT SUPPORT FOR ONGOING TRAINING FOR EVERYBODY AT THE DEPARTMENT. THANK YOU. >> YES, MA'AM. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN. ANY OTHER COUNCILORS HAVE QUESTIONS? I HAD A QUICK QUESTION. COULD YOU GIVE ME A LITTLE BIT OF INSIGHT, IF I WAS AN EXISTING POLICE OFFICER AND I WAS GOING THROUGH THE ACADEMY TO BE TRAINED UNDER THE PROGRAM FOR THE NEW TRAINING PROGRAM, COULD YOU GIVE ME A LITTLE BIT OF INSIGHT AS TO WHAT I WOULD EXPECT? >> SO, I THINK IF I'M UNDERSTANDING YOUR QUESTION, ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT TIER FOUR TRAINING? >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. >> THE TIER FOUR TRAINING, THE FIRST PHASE IS GOING TO BE DEALING WITH -- IT'S MORE A REALITY-BASED CONCEPT. THE OFFICERS ARE HAVING TO DEFUSE, DELECTATE, AND USE FORCE AGAINST AN ACTOR. AND THAT IS EVALUATED ON HOW THEY RESPOND TO THAT. FOR CONSTRUCTIVE FEEDBACK SO WE CAN IMPROVE THAT PROCESS. I HAVE NOT HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO TIER TWO. I WILL GO NEXT WEEK. I'M IN A BETTER POSITION TO ANSWER THAT LATER ON. AGAIN, IT'S ALL DESIGNED TO MAKE THESE INVESTIGATIONS ROBUST AND MAKE THE OFFICERS UNDERSTAND THE COMPLEX ISSUE OF FORCE AND TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE ADHERING TO POLICIES AND PROCEDURES THAT ARE IN PLACE. >>COUN. BORREGO: HOW DOES THE POLICE DEPARTMENT SELECT THE OFFICERS TO SAY, THIS GROUP OF INDIVIDUALS IS GOING TO GO TO THE TRAINING AND THERE'S ANOTHER GROUP. HOW DOES THAT WORK EXACTLY? >> EVERY OFFICER, AFTER THEY GET OFF THE -- EVERY OFFICER HAS TO TAKE TIER FOUR TRAINING. THE WAY THAT WORKS IS THAT IS COORDINATED TO ONE OF THE SOFTWEAR PROGRAMS WE HAVE TO SCHEDULE THE TRAINING FOR THE OFFICERS. AND EACH OFFICER WILL GET TRAINED AND WILL BE TRAINED WITH NOT ONLY THE FIRST PHASE OF TIER FOUR BUT THE SECOND PHASE OF TIER FOUR BY THE END OF THE YEAR. THAT IS A DEFINITE STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR ANSWERING THAT. I WAS CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT AN OFFICER SHOULD EXPECT AS THEY'RE MOVING FORWARD INTO THE TRAINING PROGRAM. >> I THINK, JUST TO EXPAND ON MY COMMENT A LITTLE FURTHER, THEY'RE GOING TO EXPECT THAT USE OF FORCE IS A VERY DYNAMIC AND EVER-GROWING FIELD IN LAW ENFORCEMENT. THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE BETTER TECHNIQUES, MUCH LIKE CRISIS INTERVENTION. THERE'S ALWAYS GOING TO BE BETTER TECHNIQUES WE CAN LEARN FROM. WE CAN LOOK AT SITUATIONS THAT ARE DEFINITELY -- THAT AN OFFICER WILL ENCOUNTER OUT IN THE FIELD. SO THEY HAVE THE TOOLS AND THAT VERBAL CAPABILITY TO DE-ESCALATE THE SITUATION. AND GO FORTH WHAT WE'VE BEEN TRAINED WITH DEFENSIVE TACTICS AND HOW TO GET SOMETHING INTO CUSTODY FOR THAT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. THEY'RE LOOKING AT REAL-LIFE SITUATIONS THEY MIGHT ENCOUNTER BASED ON EXPERIENCE OR THINGS THEY HAVE ACTUALLY ENCOUNTERED IN THE PAST. >> YES, MA'AM. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR HARRIS, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE A QUESTION. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I HEARD FROM COUPLE DIFFERENT PEOPLE THAT THE CPCs CAN GET WAY OFF TOPIC. THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT COMMUNITY CENTERS AND BUS STOPS. REALLY,THAT'S NOT THEIR ROLE. I WAS WONDERING IF YOU HAVE ANY THOUGHTS ON THAT. I DON'T KNOW IF OTHER COUNCILORS ARE HAVING THIS ISSUE WHERE THEY'RE NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT HOW TO WORK WITH THE POLICE IN TERMS OF COMMUNITY POLICY, THEY'RE TALKING ABOUT ALL KINDS OF CITY POLICY. I WONDER IF THERE'S OTHER COUNCILORS THAT HAD THAT CONCERN AND IF COMMANDER HAD ANY THOUGHTS ABOUT WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT? >> WELL, COUNCILOR HARRIS, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. I CAN TELL YOU COMMANDER SANCHEZ IS THE COMMANDER THAT OVERSEES THE PARAGRAPH RELATING TO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT OF THE CASA. I DON'T WANT TO -- I REFER THAT QUESTION SPECIFICALLY OVER TO HIM AS FAR AS WHAT THEY'RE DOING. I CAN TELL YOU THAT WHAT WE'VE SEEN HERE FROM THE COMPLIANCE DIVISION IS AT LEAST A LITTLE BIT THERE SEEMS TO BE MORE COMMUNICATION TALKING ABOUT THE REFERRAL PROCESS. THE CPCs HAVE COME A LONG WAY BUT THEY STILL NEED TO GO A LONG WAY FOR US TO HAVE THE INTENDED CONSEQUENCES WE WANT AND EXPECT FOR THEM TO HAVE. THAT'S SOMETHING I CAN TALK WITH COMMANDER SANCHEZ ABOUT TO SEE WHAT WE AS A DEPARTMENT HAVE DONE TO MAKE THOSE MEETINGS MORE FRUITFUL AND PRODUCTIVE. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR HARRIS. THANK YOU, ACTING COMMANDER. WE'LL ASK THAT YOU GET BACK WITH COUNCILOR HARRIS OR ASK COMMANDER SANCHEZ TO GET BACK WITH COUNCILOR HARRIS REGARDING THAT QUESTION. >> YES, MA'AM. >>COUN. BORREGO: OKAY. THANK YOU, THAT WAS VERY COMPREHENSIVE REPORT. WE VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE TIME YOU TOOK TO PUT THAT TOGETHER. I DON'T SEE ANY ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS FROM THE CITY COUNCILS. WE'LL MOVE ON. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US THIS EVENING. >> THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR NEXT PRESENTATION, WHICH IS THE SOCCER STADIUM. WE HAVE BRETT RASMUSSEN. I APOLOGIZE IF I'M NOT PRONOUNCING IT PROPERLY. DAN -- AND JOE CORVEYA. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, THIS IS LAWRENCE IN THE MAYOR'S OFFICE. BEFORE THEY START, I JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU BACKGROUND TO GET US ALL UP TO SPEED. VERY QUICKLY, IN DECEMBER OF LAST YEAR WE SENT A RECOMMENDATION TO THE CITY COUNCIL TO ELICIT SERVICES OF CA ICON TO BE A FEASIBILITY STUDY ON A MULTI-PURPOSE SOCCER STADIUM FOR ALBUQUERQUE. THE INDIVIDUALS YOU JUST INTRODUCED ARE PRINCIPALS IN THE COMPANY HAVE DONE A LOT OF WORK WITH THE CITY AND ARE PREPARED TO PRESENT TONIGHT THEIR FINDING AS IT RELATES TO THEIR WORK. I WOULD SAY THAT FOR ALL THE COUNCILOR'S INFORMATION THE STUDY WAS FUNDED THROUGH STATE LEGISLATURE. THEY APPROPRIATED FUNDS IN 2019 AND 2020. PART OF THE FUNDS COMMITTED TO DO THIS STUDY WERE PAID WITH STATE APPROPRIATIONS. I'LL TURN THAT OVER TO DAN WHO I THINK LEADS THE CONVERSATION ON BEHALF OF THE COMPANY. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, MR. RAEL. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY. BRETT WILL BE PULLING UP THE PRESENTATION. I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF, ALTHOUGH IT'S AGAINST MY NATURE AND IT'S DIFFERENT WITH A 400-PLUS PAGE REPORT. I'LL DO MY BEST. ALL SET. GO AHEAD. JUST IN TERMS OF A QUICK AGENDA. I WANTED TO BRING YOU UP TO SPEED ON THE WORK WE'VE DONE OVER THE PAST SEVERAL MONTHS. WE'VE COMPLETED A COMPREHENSIVE STUDY ON THE POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITY IN TERMS OF AGENDA FOR THIS PRESENTATION. I'M GOING TO TRY TO KEEP IT WITHIN 10 TO 15 MINUTE AND LEAVE AS MUCH TIME FOR Q&A AS POSSIBLE. I KNOW THE EXECUTIVE SUMMARY AND REPORT HAVE BEEN POSTED. AND HOPEFULLY YOU HAVE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO THROUGH IT. I'LL START WITH A QUICK OVERVIEW OF OUR TWO FIRMS. CA ICON AND CRAWFORD ARCHITECTS. JOE IS WITH US FROM CRAWFORD ARCHITECTS. I'LL TALK BRIEFLY ABOUT THE KEY TASKS WE'VE COMPLETED TO DATE. OUR PRELIMINARY PROGRAM RECOMMENDATIONS, SITE EVALUATION, COST ESTIMATES, AND ESTIMATES OF CONSTRUCTION PERIOD AND ANNUAL ECONOMIC AND FISCAL IMPACT ESTIMATES. THEY'RE A SUBSIDIARY OF CREATIVE ARTISTS INDUSTRY WHICH IS THE LARGEST SPORT AND ENTERTAINMENT AGENCY IN THE WORLD. WE HAVE JUST UNDER 90 PEOPLE. WE HAVE TWO PRIMARY DIVISIONS OF THE FIRM WHICH IS PROJECT MANAGER AND OWNERS SERVICES AND HAVE COMPLETED OVER 50 STADIUM AND ARENA PROJECTS THROUGHOUT THE WORLD IN EXCESS OF $20 BILLION. WE HANDLE FEASIBILITY AND PLANNING AND CONSULTING ENGAGEMENTS. WE'VE DONE OVER 1500 ENGAGEMENT IN MY 30 YEARS IN THE BUSINESS. WE ALSO HAVE EXTENSIVE EXPERIENCE WITH SOCCER STADIUMS, INCLUDING SOCCER STADIUMS IN MLS, EUROPE, AND AS WELL IN THE USL. CRAWFORD ARCHITECTS IS ONE OF THE LEADING ARCHITECTS IN THE COUNTRY. YOU CAN SEE SOME OF THE EXPERIENCE. THEY HAD A BROAD RANGE OF EXPERIENCE WITHIN SOCCER, PROFESSIONAL AND AMATEUR AND COLLEGIATE CLIENTS AS WELL. TO QUICKLY GO INTO SOME OF THE TASKS WE'VE COMPLETED, WE HAVE STARTED OUR ANALYSIS BY INTERVIEWING KEY STAKEHOLDERS INCLUDING REPRESENTATIVES WITH THE CITY AND OF THE TEAM, REPRESENTATIVES OF THE LEAGUE, AS WELL AS POTENTIAL USERS OF THE FACILITY. INCLUDING POTENTIAL HIGH SCHOOL USERS, CONCERTS, CONCERT PROMOTERS AND OTHER PROMOTERS THAT MIGHT USE THE FACILITY. WE CONDUCTED A SITE VISIT, COMPLETED A COMPREHENSIVE MARKET ANALYSIS. FOCUSING ON MARKET AND IDENTIFYING POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITIES. WE DEVELOPED CASE STUDIES FOR RECENTLY COMPLETED STADIUMS. WE HAD AN EVENT NOTIFICATION FOR THE CITY. WE IDENTIFIED KEY CONSIDERATION FOR POTENTIAL SITE AND DEVELOPED A COMPREHENSIVE SITE EVALUATION METRICS THAT INCLUDED 45 FACTORS TO IDENTIFY SPECIAL SITE AND THE ABILITY TO ACCOMMODATE A STADIUM SUCH AS YOU'RE CONSIDERING. WE TESTED THE STADIUM ON FOUR SPECIFIC SITES AND DEVELOPED A DESIGN AND RENDERINGS. AND SELECTED TWO PREFERRED SITE AND COMPLETED CONCEPT DESIGN AND COST ESTIMATE FOR THOSE. WE ALSO PROVIDED ECONOMIC FISCAL IMPACTS FOR THOSE TWO SITES. FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE NOT FAMILIAR, SOCCER IS ONE OF THE -- IF NOT THE MOST POPULAR SPORT AROUND THE WORLD. IN TERMS OF THE U.S. IT'S STARTING TO GAIN MUCH MORE SUPPORT THAN HISTORICALLY. THE DIVISION ONE FOR SOCCER IS MAJOR LEAGUE SOCCER. USL IS THE SECOND TIER IN THE UNITED STATES. IT WAS FOUNDED IN 2010 AND OFFICIALLY LAUNCHED IN 2011. IN 2020 THERE WERE 35 CLUBS IN OPERATION. NEW MEXICO UNITED IS A TEAM PLAYING IN THE USL CHAMPIONSHIP WESTERN MOUNTAIN CONFERENCE. THEY STARTED THEIR FIRST SEASON IN 2019. THE TEAM HAS BEEN EXTREMELY SUCCESSFUL. THEY LED THE LEAGUE IN ATTENDANCE AND IS LEADING THE LEAGUE THIS SEASON. THE TEAM PLAYS AT RIO GRANDE CREDIT UNION FIELD AT ISOTOPES PARK THAT YOU'RE ALL FAMILIAR WITH. THE FACILITY IS ORIGINALLY DESIGNED FOR BASEBALL TO ACCOMMODATE TRIPLE-A. IT WAS A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP. IT INCLUDED RENT AND GROSS RECEIPTS TAX TO HELP PAY FOR THE DEBT SERVICE. THE DEBT SERVICE ON THAT FACILITY WAS RETIRED EARLY. THE UNITED ARE A TENANT IN THE BUILDING CURRENTLY. USL CHAMPIONSHIP AND THE USL AS A LEAGUE HAS CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS FOR THEIR TEAMS TO PLAY IN SOCCER-SPECIFIC STADIUMS BY A CERTAIN PERIOD AFTER THEY'RE AWARDED. FOR TEAMS THAT DON'T CONTROL THE STADIUM OR AREN'T UNDER THE COMMON OWNERSHIP OF ANOTHER TEAM SUCH AS A BASEBALL TEAM, THE USL REQUIRES THAT THERE SOCCER TEAMS PLAY IN MULTI-PURPOSE FACILITIES THAT FOCUS ON SOCCER. YOU CAN SEE A CHART SUMMARIZING SOME OF THE RECENT DEVELOPMENTS IN USL SOCCER IN TERMS OF STADIUM DEVELOPMENTS. THE SHADED FACILITIES ARE CONSIDERED TO BE MORE COMPARABLE TO HOW WE LOOK AT THE POTENTIAL OPPORTUNITY IN ALBUQUERQUE. YOU CAN SEE THE PRIMARY COMERABLE IS THE AVERAGE SIZE IS JUST UNDER 10,000 SEATS WITH UNDER 20 LUXURY SUITES. THEY HAD A MIX OF USES AND TENANTS IN SOME OF THE FACILITIES INCLUDING NCAA, WOMEN'S SOCCER, FC BARCELONA ACADEMY IN AUSTIN AND OTHER TENANTS. AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THIS CHART, THIS PROVIDES THE AVERAGE ANNOUNCED ATTENDANCE FROM 2017 TO 2019. THE RED BAR REPRESENTS NEW MEXICO UNITED. I MENTIONED THEY HAD THE HIGHEST ANNOUNCED ATTENDANCE 2019. THE TEAM TO THE LEFT OF THEM IS FC CINCINNATI, AND THEY WERE RECENTLY AWARDED AN EXPANSION FRANCHISE TO MLS. THEY DID PLAY TWO YEARS FROM 2017 TO 2019, SO THEY'RE INCLUDED IN THIS CHART. YOU CAN SEE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THAT TEAM THE UNITED HAS THE HIGHEST AVERAGE ATTENDANCE DURING THE PERIOD. WE SPEND QUITE A BIT OF TIME LOOKING AT THE DEMOGRAPHICS OF ALBUQUERQUE. THE ALBUQUERQUE CBSA IS SMALLER THAN OTHER MARKETS. THE AVERAGES FOR THE USL ARE A LITTLE BIT MISLEADING BECAUSE THEY'RES TEAMS IN THE NEW YORK AND LA CBSA THAT PULLS THEM UP. YOU CAN SEE WHERE ALBUQUERQUE RANKS IN POPULATION, POPULATION GROWTH HOUSEHOLDS. THEY RANK 22nd OUT OF 28 MARKETS. AND THE CORPORATE BASE IT RANKS 23rd. WHAT'S INTERESTING ABOUT ALBUQUERQUE IS SOME MIGHT ASK THE QUESTION OF HOW ARE THE UNITED SO SUCCESSFUL, WHY ARE THEY LEADING THE LEAGUE IN ATTENDANCE, AND YOU CAN SEE THIS IN MANY DIFFERENT MARKETS AT THE MLS LEVEL, IT'S NOT THE LARGEST MARKET THAT'S MOST SUCCESSFUL. THEY'RE ARE UNIQUE FACTORS ABOUT THE MARKETS THAT CONTRIBUTE TO THAT SUCCESS. I THINK THE ONES THAT HAVE CONTRIBUTED IN ALBUQUERQUE INCLUDE SOCCER PARTICIPATION RATES, SOCCER LEVELS OF INTEREST, MLS SUPER FAN RATES, THE PERCENTAGE OF PEOPLE BETWEEN THE AGES OF 18-34 AND THE SIGNIFICANT HISPANIC POPULATION BASE IN ALBUQUERQUE ARE SOME OF THE KEY FACTORS WHICH CONTRIBUTED TO THE SUCCESS OF UNITED TO DATE. AFTER WE COMPLETED OUR INTERVIEWS OR ASSESSMENT OF THE COMPETITION IN THE MARKETPLACE, OUR REVIEW OF CASE STUDIES WITHIN USL AND EVALUATION OF MARKET, WE CAME UP WITH A PRELIMINARY EVENT AND ATTENDANCE ESTIMATE. WHAT I WANT TO EMPHASIZE BY THIS CHART IS YOU CAN SEE THERE'S 24 EVENTS ESTIMATED WITH OVER 20,000 IN ATTENDANCE. THIS REPRESENTS A PRIMARY EVENT OCCURRING CALENDAR. THIS FACILITY WOULD HAVE MORE EVENTS AND ACTIVITY THAN REPRESENTED HERE. WE WANTED TO SHOW WHAT WOULD BE COMMITMENTED OR RECURRING THAT WOULD ALSO BE MEETINGS, BANQUETS , CHARITY EVENTS , COMMUNITY GATHERING, AS WELL AS POTENTIAL YOUTH SPORTS. AND THERE'S OTHER OPPORTUNITIES. THE USL IS STARTING A WOMEN'S SOCCER LEAGUE. THERE'S THE NWSL WHICH IS THE WOMEN'S SOCCER LEAGUE. AND THERE'S ALSO RUGBY AND OTHER POTENTIAL USERS. SOME ADDITIONAL DETAIL, YOU CAN SEE ON THE PROGRAM ITSELF, WE'RE RECOMMENDING A FACILITY IN THE 10,000 TO 12,000 SEAT RANGE WITH PREMIUM SEATING ELEMENTS THAT REPRESENT OVER 5%, DEPENDING ON THE SCENARIO. THE PRIMARY FIXED SEATING OR GENERAL SEATING WILL BE AROUND 11,000. WITH PREMIUM SEATING WITH THE 800 RANGE. SIMILAR IN SIZE TO THE ISOTOPES AND THE CASE STUDY WHICH IS THE LOUISVILLE FACILITY. I'M GOING TO SHIFT GEARS AND STEEL JOE'S THUNDER. NORMALLY I ALLOW HIM TO PRESENT FROM THE ARCHITECTURE STANDPOINT, BUT I WANT TO BE AS EFFICIENT WITH TIME AS POSSIBLE. WE START WOULD THE MARKET. WHEN WE DID OUR SITE EVALUATION WE IDENTIFIED A NUMBER OF POTENTIAL SITES THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE A MULTI-PURPOSE SOCCER STADIUM. WE NARROWED THE LIST TO APPROXIMATELY TEN. AND FROM THAT LIST WE IDENTIFIED FOUR SITES. THE RAIL YARD SITE, COAL AND BROADWAY, SECOND AND IRON AND 12th AND I-40 WERE THE PRIMARY SITES WE EVALUATED. AS I MENTIONED, WE DEVELOPED KEY CRITERIA TO ASSESS THE SITES. CRITERIA THAT FOCUSED ON PHYSICAL CHARACTERISTICS OF THE SITES, LOCATION CONSIDERATIONS, ECONOMIC CONSIDERATIONS, FINANCING CONSIDERATIONS AND OTHER FACTORS. IN TOTAL, OVER 40 CHARACTERISTICS OR COMPONENTS WERE EVALUATED TO ASSESS A POTENTIAL OF THE SITE. WHAT I WOULD TELL YOU IS THERE ARE A NUMBER OF SITES THAT CAN ACCOMMODATE THIS FACILITY. THE FOUR THAT ARE HIGHLIGHTED ARE THE ONES THAT COULD ACCOMMODATE THE FACILITY FROM A PHYSICAL AND OPERATIONAL STANDPOINT. AS WE WENT THROUGH THE DETAILED EVALUATION OF CRITERIA, WE IDENTIFIED THE COAL AND BROADWAY AS WELL AS THE SECOND AND IRON AS THE TWO PREFERRED SITES. AND CRAWFORD ARCTS HAD A DESIGN TO ILLUSTRATE WHAT IT COULD LOOK LIKE FOR BOTH OF THE PREFERRED SITES. FOR COAL AND BROADWAY YOU CAN SEE THE OUTLINE HERE. THIS REPRESENTS A FULL ENCLOSED STADIUM WHERE ALL FOUR SIDES OF THE STADIUM ARE ENCLOSED. YOU CAN SEE THERE'S SPECIAL DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES ON THIS SITE. WE TRIED TO BE CAREFUL OF PRIVATE OWNERSHIP OF LAND AS WELL AS OTHER CONSIDERATIONS BEFORE GOING TOO FAR WITH CONSENTTUAL RENDERINGS. YOU CAN SEE THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY FOR GATHERING AREA, AS WELL AS A POTENTIAL RAIL RUNNER STOP AND PLATFORM FOR PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION TO THE SITE. HERE, YOU CAN SEE WHAT SOME OF THE POTENTIAL RENDERINGS LOOK LIKE FOR THIS FACILITY. THIS RENDERING, WE HAVE THEOPE END THAT GOES TO THE PLAYSA AREA WHICH LOW -- ALLOWS EXPANSION AND HAS OPPORTUNITIES FOR FARMER'S MARKETS OR GENERAL GATHERING OPPORTUNITY FOR THE PLAYSA THERE. THE SECOND AND IRON SITE WE TOOK LIBERTIES GIVEN THE PUBLIC OWNERSHIP OF THE SITE. YOU CAN SEE PARKING STRUCTURES, MEDIA COMPOUNDS, REDEVELOPMENT OF THE EXISTING RAIL YARD BUILDINGS, AND THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT CAN COME WITH THAT. YOU CAN SEE POTENTIAL FOR RETAIL AS WELL. THAT COULD BE WITH THE OTHER SITE AS WELL. BUT WE TOOK LIBERTIES GIVEN THE OWNERSHIP AS IT'S CITY-OWNED PROPERTY. GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. HERE YOU SEE THE OPEN-ENDED CONFIGURATION FOR THE STADIUM WHERE YOU CAN LEAVE IT FOR EXPANSION OPPORTUNITIES. THAT WAS ONE OF THE KEY THINGS THAT WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION. IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE OLDER USL STADIUMS THEY'RE SMALLER THAN WHAT WE'VE PROGRAMMED HERE. THE REASON THAT WE PROGRAMMED A LARGER FACILITY IS TWO-FOLD. ONE IS THE EXPERIENCE OF THE TEAM TO DATE. AND THE SUPPORT OF THE TEAM IN THE MARKETPLACE AND ALSO THE TRENDS IN USL WHICH ARE GOING TO LARGER FACILITIES AS THE LEAGUE IS GROWING AND ESTABLISHING CREDIBILITY WITHIN THE NORTH AMERICAN MARKETPLACE. YOU SEE ANOTHER RENDERING OF THE SECOND AND IRON SITE. NEXT IN THE ANALYSIS WAS TRYING TO ESTIMATE WHAT THE COST OF THE FACILITY MIGHT BE. SO, WHAT WE EVALUATED WAS THE HARD AND SOFT COST FOR THE TWO SITES. THE COAL AND BROADWAY SITE IS A LITTLE BIT MORE EXPENSIVE DUE TO THE GRADE OF THE SITE. AND THE ADDITIONAL SITE COST THAT WOULD BE REQUIRED. THE TOTAL PROJECT COST FOR THAT IS ESTIMATED AT $70 MILLION. AND THE COST FOR THE SECOND AND IRON IS ABOUT $65 MILLION. AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND THAT A KEY ELEMENT FOR THE COST OF THESE FACILITIES IS WHAT YOU ASSUME FOR THE CANOPY. IT'S WHAT COVERS THE STADIUM AND PROVIDES SHADE. FOR A MARKET LIKE ALBUQUERQUE THAT GETS VERY HOT IN THE SUMMER A CANOPY IS IMPORTANT. WE ASSUME THESE NEED ONE THIRD COVERAGE OF THE STADIUM AND THE SEATS. THAT CAN GO DOWN IF YOU DIDN'T INCLUDE ANY CANOPY OR IT COULD GO UP IF YOU INCLUDE TWO-THIRDS OR A FULL CANOPY OVER THE SEATING AREA. SHIFTING GEARS TO ECONOMIC AND FISCAL IMPACTS. WE TYPICALLY WILL INCLUDE, AT THE REQUEST OF CLIENTS, ESTIMATE OF CONSTRUCTION IMPACT AND ESTIMATES OF ANNUAL IMPACT. WE TRY TO TAKE A CONSERVATIVE APPROACH TO ECONOMIC AND FISCAL IMPACTS. WE FIND THERE ARE A NUMBER OF CONSULTING FIRMS IN THE INDUSTRY THAT TEND TO OVERSTATE THE ECONOMIC IMPACTS. WE TRY TO ESTIMATE NEW SPENDING IN THE MARKETPLACE AND WE ELIMINATE OR TRY TO MINIMIZE ANY TYPE OF RESIDENT SPENDING WITHIN THE CITY LIMITS. YOU'LL SEE NO RESIDENT SPENDING OR EXISTING SPENDING WITHIN THESE NUMBERS. SO, THE ECONOMIC OUTPUT FOR THE CONSTRUCTION PERIOD WOULD BE $78 MILLION. DURING THE CONSTRUCTION PERIOD, AND GENERATE LABOR INCOME JUST OVER $25 MILLION DURING THAT CONSTRUCTION PERIOD. IN TERMS OF ANNUAL OPERATIONS, YOU CAN SEE THAT SOME OF THESE NUMBERS ARE RELATIVELY CONSERVATIVE. YOU CAN SEE ANNUAL ECONOMIC OUTPUT OF $17 MILLION, WHICH REPRESENTS SPENDING WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. EMPLOYMENT OF 280 FULL-TIME EQUIVALENT EMPLOYEES. LABORING FOR ABOUT $6 MILLION PER YEAR. AND FISCAL IMPACTS OF $1.25 MILLION PER YEAR. I THINK WHEN IT COMES TO A PROJECT LIKE THIS THE BIGGER STORY HERE, AND HOW THESE PROJECTS REALLY BENEFIT THE COMMUNITIES, ARE IN THE REVITALIZATION AND REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES THAT THESE PROJECTS CAN GENERATE. GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF INTANGIBLE BENEFITS THAT COME WITH THESE TYPES OF STADIUM AND FACILITIES. SOME OF THEM ARE SUMMARIZED HERE. WHETHER IT'S NATIONAL OR REGIONAL EXPOSURE DUE TO THE EVENT MIX, THE NEW STADIUM. WHAT WE FOCUS ON IS THE ANCILLARY DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES ADJACENT TO THE STADIUM AND REVITALIZATION AND THE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT THAT OCCURS WITHIN THE DEVELOPMENT OF THESE FACILITIES. THERE ARE MANY EXAMPLES IN LARGE COMMUNITIES AS WELL AS IN SMALL COMMUNITIES OF STADIUMS ARENAS AND BALL PARKS THAT HAVE PROPERLY SITUATED AND PLANNED CAN HAVE A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT. AT THE MAJOR LEAGUE LEVEL, YOU SEE, FOR THOSE THAT ARE FAMILIAR, PETCO PARK IN SAN DIEGO. AND AUSTIN, TEXAS WITH SOCCER AND THE AREA ADJACENT. IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE SMALLER MARKETS AND SMALLER COMMUNITIES, ALAN TOWN, PENNSYLVANIA, EL PASO, LOUISVILLE, THEY ALL EXPERIENCED REVITALIZATION WITH THE DEVELOPMENT OF DOWNTOWN FACILITIES THAT ARE PLANNED AS MULTI-PURPOSE FACILITIES AND HAD A SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON THE COMMUNITIES AROUND WHICH THEY'RE DEVELOPED. I BELIEVE THAT IS THE END OF OUR PRESENTATION. AGAIN, I TRY TO BE BRIEF. MY STAFF WILL TELL YOU THIS IS A RECORD FOR ME IN TERMS OF BEING BRIEF. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE. I WANT TO SAY THANK YOU, AND I APPRECIATE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR LETTING US WORK ON THIS PROJECT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. DOES THAT CONCLUDE YOUR PRESENTATION? >> IT DOES. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU SO MUCH. COUNCILORS, I'M LOOKING FOR QUESTIONS FROM COUNCILORS. COUNCILOR BASSAN, COUNCILOR SENA. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. A COUPLE QUESTIONS. WHY WAS IT DECIDED TO ONLY INCLUDE ABOUT 24 EVENTS WHEN DOING THE ANALYSIS? >> I THINK WHAT WHY TRY TO DO IS SHOW A REALISTIC PICTURE OF WHAT THE RECURRING EVENTS ARE LIKELY TO BE. THE EVENTS THAT WE KNOW THAT WILL OCCUR AT THE FACILITY. THERE ARE COUNTLESS NUMBER OF BANQUETS AND COMMUNITY EVENTS THAT COULD BE HELD AT THE FACILITY AND ARE IN OTHER FACILITIES AROUND THE COUNTRY. A LOT OF IT DEPENDS ON HOW THE FACILITY IS DESIGNED AND WHERE IT'S LOCATED. WE FIND THE FACILITIES LOCATED IN DOWNTOWN AREAS HAVE HIGHER ACTIVITY LEVELS THAN FACILITIES LOCATED IN SUBURBAN AREAS. THAT HAS AN IMPACT ON IT. I MENTIONED THE PLAZA AREA, THOSE ARE EXAMPLES THAT HAVE HIGHER ACTIVITY LEVELS THAN OTHER FACILITIES. COUNCILOR BASSAN, IT'S DIFFICULT AT THIS POINT TO ESTIMATE AND TO REASONABLY PREDICT WHAT THOSE NUMBERS ARE UNTIL WHAT THE DECISION IS MADE ON-SITE. I CAN TELL YOU THAT MANY OF THE FACILITIES CAN GENERATE 125 EVENT DAYS. BUT THEY'RE TYPICALLY SMALLER EVENTS , YOU MIGHT HAVE A MEETING WITH 50 PEOPLE IN THE LOUNGE AREA. OR YOU MIGHT HAVE 100 TO 500 PEOPLE FOR COMMUNITY EVENTS. WE WANTED TO GIVE A REALISTIC PICTURE OF THE MAJOR EVENTS. >>COUN. BASSAN: ONE MORE QUESTION. I'M GLAD YOU BROUGHT UP PLAZA, THAT'S PART OF MY NEXT QUESTION. ON THE OPEN-ENDED DESIGN, IS THE ENTIRE FACILITY GOING TO BE FENCED IN, ARE THEY LITERALLY OPEN? I'M ASSUMING THEY NEED TO BE FENCED IN. >> THERE'S CONTROL TO ACCESS. I WOULD TELL YOU THAT OWNERSHIP UNITED HAS INDICATED THAT A DESIRE TO PROVIDE ACCESS TO THE FACILITY ON A YEAR ROUND BASIS. BUT TYPICALLY, YOU'RE CORRECT. THEY'RE GATED OFF. THOSE FACILITIES CAN BE OPENED UP FOR THE FIELD, FOR THE CONCOURSE AREAS. TYPICALLY, THERE'S CONTROL FOR SECURITY PURPOSES. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN. I'LL MOVE TO COUNCILOR SENA AND I SEE COUNCILOR BENTON HAS JOINED US AND WE'LL MOVE TO COUNCILOR BENTON. COUNCILOR SENA. >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS. I'LL TRY TO DO ONE AT A TIME AND MAYBE ASK THEM AFTER YOU ANSWER THEM. I MADE THE MISTAKE OF ASKING ALL MY QUESTIONS AT ONCE EARLIER. MY FIRST QUESTION IS, AND MAYBE THIS IS MORE FOR ADMINISTRATION, CAN YOU EXPLAIN, AND DEBATING TO DO THIS NOW OR LATER WHEN THE BILL COMES UP, I KNOW MANY PEOPLE ARE WATCHING FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. THIS MAY ANSWER SOME OF THE QUESTIONS. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THE BONDING CAPACITY OR WHERE WE'RE GETTING THAT BONDING PUPACITY? THERE'S A LOT OF QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP AROUND THAT, WHETHER IT'S CRT OR GRT. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT FUNDING? >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILORS. BONDING CAPACITY ON THE GROSS RECEIPT TAX BOND IS BASED ON WHAT REVENUE STREAM WE PLEDGE FOR THIS BOND. CURRENTLY WE HAVE PLEDGED THE STATE-SHARED REVENUE OF GROSS TAX WHICH IS 1.225. THAT APPROXIMATELY GENERATES ABOUT $212 MILLION. THIS IS THE FISCAL YEAR 2020 NUMBERS. BASED ON THAT PLEDGE, WE CALCULATE THE BOND CAPACITY. THE BOND CAPACITY IS CALCULATED IN A WAY THAT YOU NEED TO HAVE AT LEAST 225% OF YOUR DEBT SERVICE AMOUNT AS THE REVENUE WHICH YOU'RE PLEDGING. BASED ON $212 MILLION REVENUE THAT WE'RE PLEDGING, IT ROUGHLY GIVES US ABOUT $90 MILLION OF DEBT SERVICE. WE CAN ISSUE BONDS UP TO AN AMOUNT WHEREIN THE DEBT SERVICE WOULD BE ABOUT $90 MILLION. THAT GIVES US A CAPACITY OF -- AND THERE ARE SOME NUANCES HERE. WHAT IS INRATE OF INTEREST YOU ASSUME AND THINGS LIKE THAT. ROUGHLY SPEAKING, IT WOULD GIVE US ALMOST A BILLION-DOLLAR CAPACITY AS FAR AS THE GROSS RECEIPT. AS FAR AS WHAT WE HAVE ISSUED SO FAR, AS OF 6-30-20, OUR OUTSTANDING BALANCE WAS $250 MILLION ON THE GROSS RECEIPT TAX BOARD. WITHIN THAT $250 MILLION, EVEN THOUGH IT'S PLEDGED BY THE GROSS RECEIPT TAX, SOME OF THE BONDS OUT OF THE $250 MILLION ARE ACTUALLY PAID FROM DIFFERENT SOURCE OF REVENUES. FOR EXAMPLE, THERE ARE -- BONDS WHICH ARE PAID FROM THE SAVINGS WE ACHIEVE WITH ENVIRONMENTAL THINGS THAT WE HAVE DONE. AND THERE ARE BONDS WHICH ARE THE LARGEST TAX BOND WHICH ARE PAID FROM THE LARGEST TAX REVENUE. HOWEVER, BECAUSE THEY'RE PLEDGED WITH THE GROSS RECEIPT TAX, IT'S PART OF THE $250 MILLION AMOUNT I JUST MENTIONED. IF YOU REMOVE THE BONDS WHICH ARE PAID FROM REVENUE SOURCES OTHER THAN GROSS RECEIPT TAXES, THEN THE NET BALANCE IS, JUST FOR THE GENERAL FUND, IS ROUGHLY $92 MILLION. IF YOU -- IF THE $92 MILLION IS STRICTLY PAID FOR FROM THE GROSS RECEIPT TAX REVENUE, THAT DEBT SERVICE IS ABOUT $30 MILLION A YEAR UNTIL LAST YEAR. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR, I'M WONDERING IF WE SHOULD SAVE THIS FOR THE ACTUAL BILL DISCUSSION BECAUSE I THINK WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS ABOUT THE BOND AT THAT POINT IN TIME. WOULD YOU BE OKAY IF WE DEFER THESE QUESTIONS TO THAT BILL? >>COUN. SENA: SURE, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'LL STICK TO SOME OF THE QUESTIONS -- >>COUN. BORREGO: BECAUSE THIS PRESENTATION. >>COUN. SENA: I'LL DEFER MY QUESTIONS AND YOU CAN CONTINUE ON YOUR EXPLANATION. I KNOW THE LAST PART WAS A LITTLE BIT IMPORTANT. I'LL LEAVE THE QUESTIONS UNTIL LATER. >>COUN. SENA: MY NEXT QUESTION IS SPECIFIC TO THE STUDY. WAS EVALUATION FOR TRAFFIC DONE AS PART OF THIS STUDY AS WELL AS THE SITE EVALUATED FOR THE SPOT THAT WAS PRESENTED ON? >> INDIVIDUAL TRAFFIC STUDIES WERE NOT COMPLETED. BUT CRAWFORD ARCHITECTS CONSIDERED TRAFFIC IMPLICATIONS AND OPPORTUNITIES AND CHALLENGES WITH EACH OF THE SITE AND ALSO LOOKED AT SURROUNDING PARKING, PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION, AND OTHER FACTORS. IT WAS CONSIDERED, BUT WE DID NOT DO INDIVIDUAL STUDIES FOR TRAFFIC TO THE SITE. >>COUN. SENA: PART OF THAT WAS THE RAILRUNNER IN TERMS OF PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION? >> YES. CORRECT. >>COUN. SENA: MY NEXT QUESTION, IF YOU CAN RUN THROUGH, AND THIS IS MY LAST ONE, REALLY FOR THE PAGE ON THE POWERPOINT AND IN THE STUDY, PAGE 57. TALKING ABOUT HOW WE ARE -- WE ARE BELOW AVERAGE. CAN YOU TELL ME THE RANK SYSTEM OUT OF 26. THAT'S WHERE ALBUQUERQUE'S RANKED, JUST SO I'M READING THAT BOX CORRECTLY. IS THAT RIGHT? >> BRAD, YOU WANT TO PULL UP THE PRESENTATION AND GET TO THE DEMOGRAPHIC SUMMARY? >> THE PAGE BEING REFERENCED IS FROM THE MAIN REPORT. IT'S THE SUMMARY OF ALL USL TEAMS WITH NEW YORK AND LA EXCLUDED. IT'S A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT FROM THE ONE PRESENTED. WE WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE HAD ACCOUNTED FOR THE OUTLIERS. >> WE SHOWED IT BOTH WAYS BECAUSE IT CAN BE MISLEADING. IF YOU LOOK AT THE AVERAGE POPULATION FOR THE MARKETS WAS 3 MILLION. WHEREAS, THE POPULATION FOR ALBUQUERQUE IS JUST UNDER A MILLION. TO BRETT'S POINT, WHEN YOU TAKE OUT NEW YORK AND LA, THAT 3.2 MILLION AVERAGE DECLINES TO 2.1 MILLION. YOU CAN SEE, IF YOU ELIMINATE THOSE MARKETS YOU HAVE 26 MARKETS LEFT OVER. ALBUQUERQUE RANKS 20 OF 26. OR IN THE CASE OF THE PRESENTATION THAT WE SHOWED IT RANKED 22 OF 28, IF YOU INCLUDE LA AND NEW YORK. >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU. THAT'S HELPFUL. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. I'LL MOVE TO COUNCILOR BENTON. COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I APOLOGIZE TO EVERYONE. MY CONNECTION HAS BEEN SO BAD, I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND BE THIS VOICE FROM OUT IN THE ETHER. I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR THE CONSULTANT, OR FOR THE THAT MATTER, THE ADMINISTRATION OR ABOUT THE ANCHOR RETAIL. I WAS LOOKING AT THAT MAP AND LOOKING AT SOME PRETTY BIG TRACTS OF BIG BOX STUFF ON THE NORTH END OF THAT FIRST STREET LOCATION. IT MAKES ME IMMEDIATELY THINK ABOUT DOWNTOWN. IT MAKES ME IMMEDIATELY THINK ABOUT BARELAS MAIN STREET AND OTHER PEOPLE WHO ARE STRUGGLING TO SURVIVE IN A DIFFICULT ECONOMY. I'D LIKE TO HEAR SOMETHING ABOUT THAT. I'LL PUT MY SECOND QUESTION UP WHILE I'M SPEAKING. THAT HAS TO DO WITH THE PARKING GARAGE AND THE IDEA OF BRINGING LARGE NUMBERS OF CARS TO THIS SITE. WE'VE SPOKEN ABOUT THIS IN THE PAST, I THINK THIS IS A KEY ISSUE. WE SPOKE ABOUT IT IN RELATION TO THE RAIL YARDS. THIS IS DIRECTLY NORTH OF THE RAIL YARDS. WHAT'S THE IMPLICATIONS OF BUILDING MORE PARKING IN THIS AREA WHEN WITHIN A FIVE-MINUTE WALK WE HAVE MULTIPLE CITY PARKING GARAGES. WE'VE GOT ALL SORTS OF ON-STREET PARKING IN DOWNTOWN AFTER 6 P.M. WHEN THEY'RE LESS IN-DEMAND. AND GUESS WHAT, THAT'S PART OF WHAT MAKES LODO AND PLACES LIKE THAT WORK IN DENVER. THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE NERVE TO GO DOWN THERE AND PARK, HAVE THEIR CAR AND STAY WHAT THE HECK, I'M GOING TO SPEND SOME MONEY. IF THERE'S A VERY CONVENIENT PARKING GARAGE INVOLVED IN THE PROJECT, I QUESTION THAT AND I QUESTION THE IMPACTS ON THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THOSE ARE MY TWO QUESTIONS. I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE CONSULTANT AND THE ADMINISTRATION. >> I'LL BE HAPPY TO START, COUNCILOR. THEY'RE VERY FAIR POINTS AND VERY IMPORTANT PARTS TO THE PLANNING OF THESE FACILITIES. I'LL START WITH THE SECOND ONE FIRST. PARKING OFTEN IS ONE OF THE MOST CONTRAVERSAL AND DEBATED I'MS, SPECIFICALLY FOR DOWNTOWN LOCATIONS. A LOT OF PLANNING GOES AROUND WHAT THE PARKING REQUIREMENTS ARE GOING TO BE FROM SHARED-USE FACILITIES TO ON-STREET TO PARKING STRUCTURES. AND WHAT I CAN TELL YOU FROM MY MANY YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN THIS BUSINESS IS THAT IT'S AN IMPORTANT ELEMENT, DON'T GET ME WRONG, BUT IT'S ONE THAT OFTEN GETS OVER-EMPHASIZED IN THE PLANNING PROCESS. PEOPLE FIGURE OUT HOW TO PARK IN THESE FACILITIES. WHEN IT COMES TO DOWNTOWN WHEN THERE'S INFRASTRUCTURE FOR PARKING AND OPPORTUNITIES, YOU LOOK AT COMMUNITIES LIKE CLEVELAND WHERE THEY HAVE A MAJOR LEAGUE BASEBALL STADIUM WITH OVER 40,000 SEATS AND AN NBA ARENA RIGHT NEXT TO IT WITH 20,000 SEATS AND YOU HAVE 3200 PARKING SPACES ON-SITE. THEY USE PARKING THAT'S IN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY. PEOPLE ARE WILLING TO WALK UP TO 15 MINUTES, HALF MILE, EVEN THREE QUARTERS OF A MILE, SOMETIME AS MILE. AND IN TERMS OF TRYING TO GENERATE AN ACTIVITY BEFORE AND AFTER EVENTS, TO THE EXTENT YOU HAVE PEOPLE WALKING THROUGH THE COMMUNITY, YOU'RE ABLE TO CAPTURE THOSE SPENDING BEFORE AND AFTER EVENTS. WE TYPICALLY WILL LOOK AT A FACILITY, I BELIEVE, OUR FACILITY IN AUSTIN THAT HAS OVER 20,000 SEATS HAS SEVERAL HUNDRED PARKING SPACES ON-SITE. THAT'S IT. THERE'S A CERTAIN MINIMAL LEVEL OF PARKING YOU WANT TO HAVE ON-SITE FOR CERTAIN USERS OF THE FACILITY. DEPENDING ON WHAT THE DEVELOPMENT IS AROUND THE STADIUM, THERE MAY BE NEED FOR CONVENIENT PARKING. FOR EXAMPLE, IF YOU HAVE A HOTEL ON-SITE. YOU'RE GOING TO NEED PARKING FOR THAT HOTEL. WHAT WE WERE TRYING TO SHOW WAS THE OPPORTUNITY OR THE ABILITY TO ACCOMMODATE IF YOU NEEDED TO AND WANTED TO, NOT NECESSARILY SUGGESTING THAT YOU HAVE TO HAVE THAT PARKING STRUCTURE ON-SITE. AS IT RELATES TO RETAIL AND SURROUNDING IMPACTS ON SURROUNDING USES, IT'S A TRADEOFF. AND IT'S SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO BE VERY CAREFULLY PLANNED. I HATE MAKING -- I'VE BEEN MAKING THIS COMMENT FOR 20 YEARS AND NOW IT SOUNDS SILLY GIVEN THE FIELD OF DREAMS GAME. THEY REALLY REQUIRE SIGNIFICANT PLANNING ON THE FRONT END TO MAKE SURE THESE PROJECTS GENERATE THE MOST IMPACT AND ARE SENSITIVE TO THE SURROUNDING USES IN THE COMMUNITY. WE UNDERSTAND THERE'S RESIDENTIAL IN THE AREA. RESIDENTS WHO HAVE SUFFERED DURING THIS PERIOD. ANY TYPE OF DEVELOPMENT THAT GOES AROUND THE STADIUM WOULD NEED TO BE VERY CAREFULLY PLANNED AND TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION THOSE TYPES OF RESIDENTS AND USES AROUND THE FACILITY. WE REALLY DIDN'T DO MARKET ANALYSIS ON HOW MUCH DEMAND THERE IS FOR RETAIL OR HOTEL OR OFFICE. WE WANTED TO SHOW THAT IF YOU WANTED TO GO BEYOND JUST THE STADIUM THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES ON THOSE SITES TO DO THAT. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR BENTON, YOU HAVE THE FLOOR, I'M GOING TO START WRAPPING THIS UP BECAUSE THIS IS ONLY INTENDED AS A PRESENTATION AND WE'RE GOING TO COME BACK TO THIS ITEM LATER ON. THIS WILL BE COMPLETELY DISCUSSED AS WE MOVE FORWARD. I'LL ALLOW A FOLLOW-UP AND I'LL GO TO COUNCILOR JONES AND WE'RE GOING TO CLOSE BECAUSE THESE GENTLEMEN ARE GOING TO HANG AROUND UNTIL WE GET TO THIS ITEM ON THE AGENDA. >>COUN. BENTON: I UNDERSTAND THAT, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'LL ASK A QUICK FOLLOW-UP. AND HOPEFULLY GET A QUICK RESPONSE AND WE'LL GO ON TO THE AGENDA ITEM. TO ME, PARKING AND ACCESS HAS BEEN THE NUMBER ONE QUESTION WITH REGARD TO THE RAIL YARDS. WE TALK ABOUT A SITE POTENTIALLY THAT'S -- ONE OF TWO SITES. IT WOULD AFFECT THE EAST SIDE OF THE TRACKS JUST THE SAME. THAT DOES HAVE TO DO WITH MAJOR IMPACTS, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE'RE -- THE BEAUTY OF THESE TWO SITES IS THEY'RE IMMEDIATELY ADJACENT TO THE RAILRUNNER AND THEY'RE A FIVE-MINUTE WALK FROM THE ALVARADO TRANSPORTATION. WE HAVE EAST, WEST, NORTH, SOUTH CONNECTIONS. I THINK THAT'S A HUGE ASSET. WHEN WE TALK ABOUT WHERE WE'RE GOING AND WE TALK ABOUT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE GENERAL PUBLIC ON HOW TO ACCESS THIS, AND I AGREE WITH YOU DAN, I HAVEN'T BEEN TO A GAME IN CLEVELAND. BUT I'VE BEEN TO FENWAY PARK IN BOSTON MORE THAN A FEW TIMES, ROAD THE TRAIN FROM RHODE ISLAND TO FENWAY PARK. THERE'S VERY LITTLE PARKING, AS YOU KNOW. AND THERE'S A WHOLE LOT OF SPILLOVER SMALL BUSINESS AROUND FENWAY PARK. WHEREVER WE'RE GOING WITH THIS, I SUPPORT IT IN GENERAL. I THINK WE NEED TO PROTECT THOSE SMALL BUSINESSES TO PROTECT THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD-ORIENTED HANGOUTS OR WHATEVER IT MAY BE. AND BE CAREFUL ABOUT INVITING A BUNCH OF CARS. I'M GO TO COUNCILOR JONES AND WE'LL WRAP THIS CONVERSATION UP. >>COUN. JONES: FOR THAT REASON, I'LL DEFER MY QUESTION. HOPEFULLY, I'LL BE TOWARD THE FRONT OF THE LINE. >>COUN. BORREGO: WE'LL KEEP YOU AT THE FRONT OF THE LINE. I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION SOMETHING IN YOUR STUDY VERY QUICKLY, AND NOT INTENDED TO BE RUDE. BUT THE STREET NAME COAL IS SPELLED C-O-A-L. I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION TO CITY COUNCIL, AND I'LL SEND THAT OUT TO YOU. I DID A LITTLE BIT OF MY OWN REGIONAL RESEARCH ON STADIUMS, I HAD MY POLICY ANALYST DO A LITTLE BIT OF AN ANALYSIS FOR ME OF STADIUM REGIONALLY, WESTERN AREAS, NOT CHICAGO OR NEW YORK. MORE LIKE SALT LAKE CITY, DENVER, PHOENIX, I'M GOING TO ASK MY POLICY ANALYST TO SEND THAT TO YOU. IT'S REALLY JUST INFORMATION ABOUT EACH STADIUM THAT I CAN FIND IN THOSE PARTICULAR AREAS. REALLY, WE JUST COPIED THEIR WEBSITE. IT GIVES YOU SUMMARY INFORMATION. I'M GOING TO SEND THAT TO THE COUNCIL WHILE WE MOVE ON THROUGH OUR OTHER ITEMS. WITH THAT, THANK YOU, GENTLEMEN. PLEASE STAY HANDY. BECAUSE WE'RE GOING TO NEED TO ASK YOU LOTS OF QUESTIONS AS WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THIS ITEM. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: WE ARE MOVING ON THE AGENDA. OUR NEXT ITEM IS ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT DISCUSSION. WE HAVE NONE THIS EVENING. WE ARE GOING TO MOVE TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. BEFORE WE ALLOW THE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK THIS EVENING, WE ARE GOING TO READ SOME INFORMATION FOR THESE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK AND FOR THE PUBLIC. I'M GOING TO READ THIS AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. FOR THOSE OF YOU JOINING US TO PROVIDE LIVE PUBLIC COMMENT, WE WELCOME YOU THIS EVENING. WE ALSO RECEIVED WRITTEN COMMENTS THAT WERE DISTRIBUTED TO ALL THE COUNCILORS IN ADVANCE OF TODAY'S MEETING. AND I'M SURE THAT WE'VE ALL READ BOTH PROS AND CONS REGARDING MANY OF THE ISSUES ON THE AGENDA BUT INCLUDING THE STADIUM. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC WILL BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE COUNCIL IF THEY HAVE SIGNED UP FOR LIVE PUBLIC COMMENTS. PER INSTRUCTIONS PUBLISHED ON THE AGENDA AND ON OUR WEBSITE ON FRIDAY, SPEAKERS WILL BE MOVED INTO THE MEETING ROOM TWO AT A TIME. THEY WILL REMAIN MUTED WITH THEIR CAMERA OFF UNTIL THEY ARE CALLED UPON TO SPEAK, AT WHICH POINT THEY CAN TURN ON THEIR CAMERA, UNMUTE THEMSELVES, AND THEY WILL HAVE ONE AND A HALF MINUTES TO SPEAK. WE HAVE ONE INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS REQUESTED A SPANISH INTERPRETER. MR. MOYA, THIS IS INDIVIDUAL AND ININTERPRETER IN THE MEETING ROOM? OKAY, THE INDIVIDUAL WHO HAS REQUESTED THE INTERPRETER HAS NOT SIGNED IN YET. WITH THAT, I GUESS WE'LL MOVE ON. WHEN THAT INDIVIDUAL OR IF THAT INDIVIDUAL DOES JOIN US, WE WILL HAVE INFORMATION PROVIDED TO THE INDIVIDUAL WITH OUR INTERPRETER. SO, EACH PARTICIPANT HAS ONE AND A HALF MINUTES TO PRESENT. COMMENTS ARE TO BE ADDRESSED TO COUNCILORS ONLY THROUGH THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT. ANY DISRUPTIVE CONDUCT WILL RESULT IN REMOVAL FROM THE ZOOM WEBINAR. MS. REYES IS OUR INTERPRETER. PLEASE CALL THE NAME OF THE FIRST SPEAKER. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I DID WANT TO CHECK. THERE IS SOMEBODY HERE WITH THE PHONE NUMBER 816-916-0054. PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF. YOU CAN UNMUTE YOURSELF. MADAM PRESIDENT, I'LL COME BACK TO THEM. OUR FIRST SPEAKER WILL BE JAVIER. FEEL FREE TO TURN ON YOUR VIDEO AND UNMUTE YOURSELF. YOUR ONE AND A HALF MINUTES WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> A FEW KID AND PARENTS WILL GET TO MY HOUSE -- 30 YEARS AGO. FEEL A SENSE OF BELONGING AND LOVE FOR MY HOMETOWN. I UNDERSTOOD THERE'S A PLACE WHERE 30,000 PEOPLE, REGARDLESS OF AGE, OR GENDER CAN BE UNITEDED BEHIND AN IDEA. THREE DECADES LATER, HERE IN ALBUQUERQUE, WITH MY THREE FAVORITE KIDS AND MY WIFE. I HAVE MADE THE RIO GRANDE MY RIVER. WHEN I TAKE MY FAMILY TO THE NEW MEXICO UNITED HOME MATCHES I FEEL A SENSE OF BELONGS I ONCE FELT BACK HOME. I LOOK AROUND AND SEE HAPPY FACES BEHIND THEIR TEAM. HONORABLE MEMBERS OF THE CITY COUNCIL I WANT TO THANK YOU THE CONSTRUCTION OF THE MULTICULTURAL CENTER AND DEDICATED SOCCER STADIUM. IT'S AN ENORMOUS EFFORT AND NEEDS COMMUNITY DIALOGUE. IT WILL BRING US TOGETHER AND CONTINUE ADDING TO THIS BEAUTIFUL CITY. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND FOR ALLOWING ME TO BE PART OF THE PROCESS. >> THANK YOU. OUR SPEAKER IS DALE. FEEL FREE TO TURN ON YOUR VIDEO AND UNMUTE YOURSELF. YOUR ONE AND A HALF MINUTES WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >>COUN. BORREGO: COULD YOU UNMUTE YOURSELF? THERE YOU GO. I THINK YOUR VOLUME IS OFF, SIR. >> SIR, IF YOU CAN TEST YOUR AUDIO. THERE'S A LITTLE ARROW NEXT TO OUR MICROPHONE. WE'LL MOVE TO THE NEXT SPEAKER. TEST YOUR AUDIO AND SEE IF IT COME THROUGH. OUR NEXT SPEAKER WILL BE RON. FEEL FREE TO TURN ON YOUR VIDEO AND UNMUTE YOURSELF. YOUR ONE AND A HALF MINUTES WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >>COUN. BORREGO: ARE YOU THERE? >> THERE HE IS. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD EVENING, HONORABLE CITY COUNCIL AND COUNCIL PRESIDENT. THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK ABOUT THE STADIUM. I'M PRESIDENT AND CEO OF FIRST FINANCIAL CREDIT UNION. WE ARE A COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT FINANCIAL INSTITUTION REPRESENTING 85,000 STATE MEMBERS. WE ARE COMMITTED TO THE FOUNDATION WITH THE MISSION TO CREATE POSITIVE OUTCOME FOR NEW MEXICANS. AS A PART OF THE TEAM WITHIN NEW MEXICO UNITED. BECAUSE THE UNITED HAS THE ACADEMY THEY HAVE GETTING ACCESS TO A PROFESSIONAL SOCCER TEAM AND THIS PROVIDES OPPORTUNITIES FOR THE RESIDENTS IN THE STATE. ALSO, THIS IS ONE OF THREE SCHOLARSHIP DRIVEN PROGRAMS IN THE COUNTRY. THEY RAISE FUNDS TO BE PART OF THE PROGRAM. FIRST FINANCIAL SUPPORTS THE ACADEMY THE FOUNDATION AND BUILDING OF THE STADIUM AS IT WILL BE A BIG FINANCIAL GAIN FOR THE STATE. (INAUDIBLE). ALL NEW MEXICO IS GOING TO BE PROUD OF IT IN THE FUTURE. WE ASK YOU TO CONSIDER THE PROJECT. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, MR. MOORHEAD. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MARION. FEEL FREE TO TURN ON YOUR VIDEO AND UNMUTE YOURSELF. YOUR ONE AND A HALF MINUTES WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> THANK YOU FOR THE INVITATION TO SPEAK. WHAT I WILL SPEAK ABOUT TONIGHT IS THE AMERICAN INDIAN DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SHELTER FOR ALBUQUERQUE. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS PROJECT FOR SEVEN YEARS. IT HAS BECOME CRUCIAL DUE TO THE PANDEMIC. DOMESTIC VIOLENCE HAS INCREASED AND COST THE GOVERNMENT DOLLARS IN TERMS OF HEALTH CARE, MISSING WOMEN, FOSTER CHILDREN, ADOPTED CHILDREN, AND A LOT OF INCARCERATION OF THE PERPETRATORS. I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT THIS IS OUR HOPE AND DREAM AND WE HOPE THAT YOU CAN JOIN US. WE WEREN'T GOING TO TAKE IT TO VOTE IN NOVEMBER, BUT THANKS TO COUNCILOR GIBSON, WE'VE GONE ALONG WITH HER SUGGESTION TO TAKE TO THE NEXT BOND ELECTION. WE HAVE STUDIES UPON STUDIES THAT SHOW THE DRAMATIC IMPACT OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE. WE WANT TO STOP THIS. WE HAD TWO SHELTERS IN ALBUQUERQUE WHEN WE STARTED THIS PROJECT AND NOW WE ONLY HAVE ONE. THIS IS GOING BACKWARDS. WE DON'T WANT TO DO THIS. WE HOPE AND PRAY THAT VIOLENCE CAN STOP. WE'VE ALL EXPERIENCED IT AND NOW IS THE TIME FOR US TO ACT ON IT. SO, I WILL BE COMING BACK OFF AND ON TO GIVE YOU UPDATES. COUNCILOR GIBSON IS OUR CHAMPION IN THIS CAUSE. I HOPE THAT ALL OF YOU CAN JOIN US. >> YOUR TIME IS UP. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. >> YOU'RE WELCOME. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS ROBERT. FEEL FREE TO TURN ON YOUR VIDEO AND UNMUTE YOURSELF. YOUR ONE AND A HALF MINUTES WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> HELLO, I'M USED TO IT. I'M HERE TO SPEAK ABOUT THE STADIUM AND SUPPORTING IT AND GIVE A COUPLE EXPERIENCES I'VE HAD AT THE STADIUM. PRE-PANDEMIC, BEFORE THE FIRST TEAM MEMBER STEPPED ON THE FIELD MY FATHER PASSED AWAY. AND THE TEAM CAME TO TOWN. I FOUND A COMMUNITY AND FAMILY THAT HELPED ME THROUGH THAT PART OF MY LIFE. I'VE BEEN ABLE TO SHARE THAT WITH OTHER FRIEND AND FAMILY BY TAKING THEM TO GAME AND SEEING THEIR CHILDREN AND EVERYTHING LIGHT UP WHEN THE TEAM COMES AROUND AROUND AT THE END OF THE TEAM AND SIGNS DIFFERENT THINGS. IT'S A COMMUNITY, AND IT'S A COMMUNITY WE DIDN'T KNOW WE HAD UNTIL THIS TEAM CAME AROUND. SINCE THEN, IT'S BEEN ONE BIG FAMILY. LIKE EVERY FAMILY WE HAVE DISAGREEMENTS. AT THE END OF THE DAY WE'RE ALL ONE FAMILY, WE'RE ONE STATE AND ONE CITY. THIS IS ABOUT HELPING EVERYONE UP TO A LEVEL WHERE THEY CAN BE SUCCESSFUL. I HEARD SOMEONE SPEAKING ABOUT THE SOMOS UNIDOS FOUNDATION AND THEY HAVE A SCHOLARSHIP. THEY ARE ONE OF THREE TEAMS OUT OF HUNDREDS. IT'S THE FASTEST GROWING SPORT IN AMERICAN. IF WE DON'T BECOME PART OF IT, WE'RE GOING TO GET LEFT BEHIND. I DON'T WANT TO SEE ALBUQUERQUE LEFT BEHIND. WE DON'T DESERVE THAT. >> THANK YOU, SIR. YOUR TIME IS UP. >> MR. ARMSTRONG, ARE YOU STILL IS THERE? CAN YOU TRY YOUR AUDIO AGAIN? >> CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? >>COUN. BORREGO: WE CAN. >> YES, SIR. MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, I REALLY APPRECIATE YOU GUYS. FOR ME, IT'S ABOUT MY CO-WORKERS. UNITED HAS BEEN AMAZING ABOUT SUPER-POSITIVE. AND IT'S A COMMUNITY. THERE'S A LOT OF OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE TO DO THINGS HERE. BUT UNITED HAS TAKEN IT TO A LEVEL THAT HAS BEEN A BRIGHT A SPOT, NOT JUST IN ALBUQUERQUE, BUT FOR THE ENTIRE STATE. I GO ALL OVER THE STATE AND I SEE UNITED STICKERS EVERYWHERE. I BELIEVE OUR CITY HAS A VIBRANT DOWNTOWN. I THINK THIS GIVES US AN OPPORTUNITY. I STAND IN FAVOR OF GETTING THIS ON THE BALLOT. UNITED HAS PROVEN, DURING TIMES OF CONFUSION, THAT THEY CAN PULL A COMMUNITY TOGETHER. I THINK IT WOULD BE AN AWESOME OPPORTUNITY TO PUT IT IN FRONT OF THE VOTERS. I THINK UNITED NEEDS A HOME. I STAND IN STRONG SUPPORT. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME HERE ON THE COUNCIL. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS DALE. FEEL FREE TO TURN ON YOUR VIDEO AND UNMUTE YOURSELF. YOUR ONE AND A HALF MINUTES WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> GOOD EVENING, I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTOR FOR THE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. OVER THE LAST THREE YEARS NEW MEXICO UNITED HAS CAPTURED THE HEART OF THE ALBUQUERQUE COMMUNITY. THEY PLAY IN A BASEBALL FIELD IN A BASEBALL STADIUM. THIS COULD BE THE LAUNCH OF A TREMENDOUS SOCCER LEGACY IN ALBUQUERQUE. THIS ARENA IS ALSO A REDEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY. LET'S SEIZE THIS MOMENT. GREAT CITIES TIND TO HAVE ARENA LIKE THIS THAT BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER FOR ALL SORTS OF PURPOSES SHOWS CONCERTS MARKETS AND PROFESSIONAL SPORTS. JUST IMAGINE HOW THIS ENGAGES YOUTH SPORTS OR SPORTS TOURISM EFFORTS. WE URGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO SUPPORT NEW CONSTRUCTION OF THIS ARENA. WE'LL URGE YOUR COMMUNITY TO DO THE SAME IF IT GOES ON THE BALLOT IN NOVEMBER. ON A SEPARATE QUESTION ON WHERE IT SHOULD BE LOCATED, WE THINK IT SHOULD BE DOWNTOWN. NEAR THE HISTORIC RAIL YARDS. WE FILE THIS WOULD BE A MISSED OPPORTUNITY TO LOCATE IT ANYWHERE ELSE. ALONG WITH A NEW RAIL TRAIL CAN BE A CAT LIST FOR DOWNTOWN GROWTH AND BRING MORE PEOPLE DOWNTOWN AND MAKE IT THE HEART OF THE CITY THAT IT NEEDS TO BE. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR OUR TIME AND YOUR CONSIDERATION. I URGE THE COUNCIL TO PLACE THIS VERY IMPORTANT QUESTION ON THE BALLOT IN NOVEMBER. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, SIR. >> NEXT SPEAKER IS PETER. FEEL FREE TO TURN ON YOUR VIDEO AND UNMUTE YOURSELF. YOUR ONE AND A HALF MINUTES WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> I GET ASKED A LOT, WHY CAN'T WE KEEP PLAYING AT UNM. THE ANSWER IS THERE'S NOT ENOUGH ROOM. IN TERMS OF STRUCTURE AND PROGRAMMING AFTER ALL THE GAMES. IT CAN'T HAPPEN WITHOUT A FIELD. WE'VE OUTGROWN IN THE AREA AND THE CITY HAS OUTGROWN THAT FACILITY. AND I THINK IF YOU THINK ABOUT A PROFESSIONAL WOMEN'S TEAM, THINK ABOUT THE PRIDE THAT WILL BRING. THINK ABOUT THE LEADERSHIP IT WILL BRING TO ALL OF THE YOUTH. I'LL TAKE A LITTLE BIT OF -- WITHOUT DISRESPECT, I DON'T THINK WE'RE OUT-PERFORMING BECAUSE OF OUR YOUTH SOCCER OR MLS RATES, IT'S BECAUSE NEW MEXICO UNITED ISN'T ABOUT SOCCER. IT'S ABOUT PUTTING OUR DIFFERENCES ASIDE AND FOCUSING ON THE THINGS THAT BIND US TOGETHER AND OUR COMMON. IT DOESN'T WHAT MATTER WHAT GOD YOU PRAY TO, WHAT LANGUAGE YOUR SPEAK, ALL THAT MATTERS IS YOU WANT TO WILL NEW MEXICO TO A WIN. THAT'S HOW YOU BUILD COMMUNITY PRIDE. THAT HAS MADE A REAL CHANGE IN ALBUQUERQUE AND OVER NEW MEXICO IN THE LAST THREE YEARS. THIS IS ABOUT PUTTING IT TO THE VOTERS. LET THE PEOPLE WHO SAID YES TO INCLUSIVITY AND NO TO SILOING THEMSELVES, LET'S GIVE THEM THE OPPORTUNITY TO VOTE ON THIS IN THREE MONTHS. I ASK YOU TO PUT DIFFERENCES ASIDE AND YES TO POSITIVITY. PLEASE BRING THE STADIUM TO NEW MEXICO. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS COLE. FEEL FREE TO TURN ON YOUR VIDEO AND UNMUTE YOURSELF. YOUR ONE AND A HALF MINUTES WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >>COUN. BORREGO: ARE YOU THERE? GO AHEAD, SIR. >> WE CAN'T HEAR YOU. WHY DON'T WE GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO THEEXT SPEAKER. >>COUN. BORREGO: I THINK WE CAN HEAR HIM. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? COUN. BORREGO: YES, WE CAN. >> ALL RIGHT. THANKS GUYS. MY COMMENT IS THEAME AS THE LAST TIME. I WAS BORN IN ALBUQUERQUE, I WENT TO UNM FOR ARCHITECTU. I JUST RECTLY BOUGHT MY HOUSE DOWNTOWN IN HOPESHAT THE STADIUM WOULD BE BUILT DOWN HERE. I WAN TOHANK DAN AND JE FOM AWFORD ARCHITECTS. I FOUND IT REALLY INTERESTING THAT YOU BUGHT UP PETC PARK. THAT WAS SOMETHIESIGNED BY A LOCA ARCHITECT. A FEW OTHER LANDMAR AND AZING ICONIC BLDG AOSS THE RLD. I WANTO GIVE A SHOUT OUT TO ANTWAN IHINK IS AN PORTUNITY TO PARTNER WITH A LOCAL FIRM AND RECCILE THE DESIGN CONCERN BY USING A LOCAL FIRM OR USING SOMEO LIKE THOSE GUYS. THK WE COULD REALLY CREATE SOMETHINGOR THEITY THAT DOES THO SITES HAVELREADY DONE IN THE CITY. LIKE T RIO GRANDE CULTURA CENTER. I THINK THE COMMON THEME TO ANSWERS LIKE WHILE BUILD STADIUM DOWNTOW AND NT JUST UNM FTBALLIELD IS THE LOVE F THE TY. AND ELEVATE THE CITY TO NEW LEVELS. TH HINS ON THE TRUS OR UNDERSTANDIN THAT PEO HAVE ON TS CL. >> THANKYOU, SIR. YO TE IS UP HANK YOU. >> OUREXPEERS -- JOSON. FEEL FREE TO TURN ON YR VIDEO AND UNMUTEOURSF. YOUR ONE AND A HALF NUTEWILL BEGIN WHEN YOU STARTAKING. I HOP YOU VOTE FOR A NEW STADIUM. W MEXICO UNITE HAS BEEN A PA OF SO MANY LE'S LES LIKEMINE. IT MEAN THEOR BECAUSET BRINGS SMANY PEOP TOTHER. E TE CARES A ME AND OTHER PEOPLE A T. IT MES ME FL SPECIAL. NEEU OWN PLACEOLA AND HAVECERTS AND ART THANK YO >>COUN. BOEGO: I JUSTANT TO THAN YOU F COMG ON. IT'S ALWAYS GREAT TO S O YOUNG PEOPLE INLVED ANK YOU SO MUCH. T YOU. >> OUR NEXT SAKS COREY. FEEL FREE TURON YOUR DEO AND MUTEOURSELF. UR OND A HALF MITES WILL BEN WHEN YOUTART SPEAKING. >>I LIVEORT OF THE TRE FARM TH IS FOR THEATURE PRERVE. I REALL WANT YU TO ASK TO PLEASE INVOLVE THE ADJACENT NEIGHBORHOODS THIVE AROUN TH TREE FARM. THEY WL BE PACTE BY THE POTENTIA PARKING ANDROPOD ANGE TO IT. IIKEY NEHBOR THEYON RMALLY GE INVOLVED. THE NEIGHBORS TO THE EAT, THEIR LAND HAS BN IN THAMIL SIE TH1940s. WAY BEFOR ZOOM I URGE Y T SPT MAKING SURE THATHEDJENT NEIGHRS ARE DIRECTLY INVOLVED IN THE SI PLAN THANKYOU. >> OUR NEX SPEAK IS STEVE. FEEL FREE TO TN YOUR VIDE AND UNMU YRSELF. YO ONE AND AALMINUTES WILL BEGIN WHEN YTART SPEAKING. >> I REQUEST TT THE COUNCIL NSIDER FOIDDIRASH WSTE CONSTRUCON MATERIALS. THE CITY INDICATED THE SIT IS NED UP NOW. IT'S T T. CA SEE FROM THEOU PHOTOS THAT IT'S STILL BEING USEDS A DUMP. THEITY SAYS THEY'RETILLOT DUMPG TRASH THERE. YOU CAN SEE TT THEY'RE STILL MPING WOODENRATES THER OM THE PTO U CAN SEE THEY'RSTILL DUMPING PLAIC TTLES AND CS ER THEHOTOS WERE T TODAY. I URGE YOUO ADT THE EPC FINDING TRH AND WAE. I RESCTFULLY AS THAT THE CITY CIL DOTHE RIGHT THING A EAN IS MESSUP. THANK U. >>COUN. BORRO:HANK YOU, R. COUN. BENTON: JUST QLY IN RESPONSE TO THE ABLUTELY, WE NEED TO MAIAIN A DISSSION WITH THEARKS AND DEPARTMENT O OPEN SPACEBOUT THEAINTENANCE OF THAT SE. I THINK I EILED COREY, I STAND READTO DO THAT. THAT MAY BEEPARATE OF THE B ITSELF. THATAS TO DO WITH T CURRENT OPERATION ASPPOSED TO LONG-TER I RECOGNE THEONCERNS AND CA EXPLAINHAT TO COUNCILORS R . THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORRO: COUNCILOR BENTON,OULD TT BE MR. SIMON AT WE NEED TO DCUSS WITH? HE LINE? >>COUN. BENTON I SUGGEST WE DISCUSS THATISSUE, F THAT MATTER, WE CAN TAKE CARE OF IT NOW IF HE'S AVAILABLE. AGAIN, I THINKHESE ARE TO BELITT THE CONCERNS OF T NEIGHBORS ADJACENT TO THE TRE NURSERY. IT WOULD BE AN INTERIM CONDITIO >>UN. BORREGO: I SEE THAT MR. SIMON IS A PARTICIPANT. I THINK HE HEARD THOSE COMMENTS IF YOU CAN GET BACK TOHE COUNCILORSEGARDING THAT ISSUE. MR. IMON. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM PRIDENT, MEMBERS OTHE COUNCIL. I WANT TO REASSE THAT NO TRASH IS BEING DUMPED AT THE NURSERY SITE. IT HASN'T BEE FOR OVER A YEAR. OCCASIONALLY, A LITTLEIT OF FLYING LITR WILL ND ITS WAY INTO THE SITE. CLEAN THAT UP AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE. IT'S QUITE CLEAR AND UNEQUIVOCAL THAT WE'RE NOT DUMPING TRASH AT THE SITE. WE LOOK FORWARD TO REMOVING THE LARGE PIL OF DEBRIS. AND WE'RE DEDICATED TO CLEANIN THE SITE. THAT WOULD BE MY RESPONSE, AT THIS TIME. IF THE COUNCILOR WANTS TO REVISIT HIS ISSUE WHEN THE ITEM IS UP, I'LL WILL BE AVAILABLE TO YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, MR. SIMON. AS LONG AS ITS ON YOUR RADAR, WE APPRECIATE IT. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS TINA. FEEL FREE TO TURN ON YOUR VIDEO AND UNMUTE YOURSELF. YOUR ONE AND A HALF MINUTES WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> HI, THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF A STADIUM FOR NEW MEXICO UNITED. I'M A RESIDENT OF LAS CRUCES. PRIOR TO 2019 I WOULD MAYBE MAKE A TRIP TO ALBUQUERQUE ONCE A YEAR TO PLAN A LOCAL SOCCER TOURNAMENT OR ATTEND A CONCERT. SINCE THE INCEPTION OF NEW MEXICO UNITED AND THE VERY FIRST HOME GAME IN 2019 WHICH WE ATTENDED, WE HAVE NOT MISSED A SINGLE HOME GAME. WE MAKE A TRIP UP NORTH TO SPEND TIME WITH OUR NEW FRIENDS OR AS WE LIKE TO CALL THEM, TAMLY. AND WE LIKE TO JOIN TEAM-RELATED ACTIVITIES. I'VE BEEN BRINGING OTHER FRIENDS FROM LAS CRUCES WHO WERE HOOKED. ALL SPENDING MONEY AT RESTAURANTS, ESTABLISHMENTS AND HOTELS. BECAUSE OF NEW MEXICO UNITED I HAVE A BOND WITH MY CHILD LIKE NO OTHER THAT HAS BEEN FORMED WITH COUNTLESS HOURS IN THE CAR AND CHEERING ON THE TEAM. ALSO BECAUSE OF NEW MEXICO UNITED I'VE BEEN DRIVEN TO HELP MY OWN COMMUNITY HERE BECOME A BETTER PLACE BUT ALSO TO HELP THE COMMUNITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. IF IT WERE JUST ABOUT THE GAME OF SOCCER THERE'S ANOTHER TEAM THAT PLAYS 45 MINUTES FROM MY HOUSE. BUT MY HEART IS WITH NEW MEXICO UNITED BECAUSE THIS ORGANIZATION HAS EARNED MY DEVOTION DUE TO EVERYTHING THAT IT STANDS FOR. THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS CARLOS. FEEL FREE TO TURN ON YOUR VIDEO AND UNMUTE YOURSELF. YOUR ONE AND A HALF MINUTES WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME. I'M THE OWNER OF DORAL MOTORS IN ALBUQUERQUE. I'M ALSO A LEADER IN THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY IN ALBUQUERQUE. I HAVE SOLD THOUSANDS OF CARS TO HISPANICS AND I HELP THEM BUILD THEIR CREDIT AND THEY BUILD THEIR TRUST IN ME. I'VE BEEN SPONSORING SOCCER EVENTS FOR MANY YEARS. FROM LITTLE GIRL'S COMPETITIVE TEAMS. I WAS ONE OF THE FIRST ONES TO BE THERE IN SUPPORT TO SUPPORT NEW MEXICO UNITED. I'VE SEEN THE COMMUNITY GROW. I'VE SEEN FRIENDS, PEOPLE THAT DIDN'T KNOW EACH OTHER BECOME FAMILY. MY HISPANIC COMMUNITY AND KIDS THAT WERE IN THE WRONG WAYS IN LIFE TURNING THEIR LIFE AROUND AND GIVING SOCCER A CHANCE AS A FUTURE FOR THEM. I'VE SEEN THE YOUTH ACADEMIES AND HISPANIC PLAYERS THAT I'VE SEEN PLAY BEFORE ACTUALLY GROWING WITH THE TEAM, GROWING WITH THE FUTURE AND THAT'S SOMETHING I'M PROUD OF BEING A NEW MEXICAN. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, SIR AND THANK YOU FOR THE HELP YOU'RE DOING WITH THE YOUTH. >> WE HAVE MS. GOMEZ. OUR INTERPRETER HAS JOINED THE MEETING WITH US. CAN YOU GO BACK AND READ THE PUBLIC COMMENT INSTRUCTIONS ON PAGE THREE? IF YOU CAN PAUSE EVERY COUPLE OF SENTENCES? >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. I AM GOING TO READ. AND THE INTERPRETER WILL INTERPRET WHAT I SAID. WELCOME AND THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. WE WILL NOW GO OVER THE PUBLIC GROUND RULES. I WILL PAUSE EVERY FEW SENTENCES. >> [ TRANSLATING INTO SPANISH. ]. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, MS. REYES. EACH PARTICIPANT HAS ONE AND A HALF MINUTES TO PRESENT. COMMENTS ARE TO BE ADDRESSED TO THE COUNCILORS ONLY THROUGH THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT. ANY DISRUPTIVE CONDUCT WILL RESULT IN REMOVAL FROM THE ZOOM WEBINAR. >> [ TRANSLATING TO SPANISH ]. >>COUN. BORREGO: MS. REYEZ IS OUR SPANISH INTERPRETER. PLEASE PAUSE EVERY FEW SENTENCES TO LOW HER TO SPEAK. >> [ TRANSLATING TO SPANISH ]. >> [ TRANSLATING TO SPANISH ]. >> FEEL FREE TO TURN ON YOUR VIDEO AND UNMUTE YOURSELF. YOUR ONE AND A HALF MINUTES WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> [ SPEAKING IN SPANISH ]. >> GOOD EVENING, MADAM PRESIDENT COUNCILORS. I AM JUST A HUGE FAN. AS YOU CAN SEE I HAVE -- I'M SPEAKING FOR THE LATINO POPULATION AND THE LOVE OF SPORT. I WOULD LIKE THIS STADIUM TO BE BUILT. I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD FOR THE PEOPLE OF ALBUQUERQUE. I THINK IT WOULD GIVE US OPPORTUNITIES AND ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITIES. AS A RESIDENT OF ALBUQUERQUE, I WANT TO SEE THIS CHANGE. I THINK IT WOULD BE A GOOD IMPACT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH AND SOMOS UNIDOS. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT, AND THANK YOU MS. REYES. OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS CARLOS. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, I MUST COMMEND YOU ON YOUR BILINGUAL CONGRATULATIONS. MY NAME IS CARLOS. TODAY IS A BIG DAY FOR THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITIZENS OF BEAUTIFUL ALBUQUERQUE. TODAY, I PUSH YOU TO PLEASE PUT THE STADIUM ON THE BALLOT IN NOVEMBER. THERE'S BEEN SOME MIXED EMOTIONS ON THE STADIUM TOPIC. IF WE WANT TO ANY THE FULL SCOPE OF WHAT WE THINK LET'S PUT IT ON THE BALLOT FOR THEM TO VOTE FOR. IT WILL BRING UPSIDE WITH REVITALIZATION OF DOWNTOWN AND HELPLING THE MUSEUM DOWNTOWN GET FOOT TRAF SKWK BRINGING MORE PEOPLE DOWNTOWN. THE COMMUNITIES WILL BENEFIT FROM THE FOOT TRAFFIC, THE SMALL BUSINESSES MAKING MORE MONEY AS WELL AS A COMMUNITY GROWTH. IN THE WORDS OF JOHN ADAMS, I SAY VOTE YES. THANKS FOR THE TIME AND I WILL WORK ON MY BILINGUAL LIKE MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, SIR, WE LOVE YOUR SPUNK. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS LISA. FEEL FREE TO TURN ON YOUR VIDEO AND UNMUTE YOURSELF. YOUR ONE AND A HALF MINUTES WILL BEGIN WHEN YOU START SPEAKING. >> PEOPLE IN MY COMMUNITY HAVE A HISTORY OF TRAUMA AND MARGINALIZATION. WE COME FROM A RICH AGRICULTUREAL CENTER AND ECONOMIC TRANSPORTATION CORRIDOR. AND WHAT WE SEEK OUT OF THIS ARRANGEMENT IS NOT A HANDOUT, BUT RATHER AN INVESTMENT IN COMMUNITY. WE SEEK A REGENERATIVE ECONOMIC SOLUTION FOR OURSELVES. WE'D LIKE TO AVOID DISPLACEMENT IF WE END UP WITH THE STADIUM IN THE COMMUNITY. WE'RE LOOKING FOR TOOLS, RESOURCES, AND TIME AS WE RECOGNIZE THAT WE HAVE THE SMART AND HEARTS TO MAKE THOSE THINGS HAPPEN. THIS IS WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR A COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT BE PART OF THIS PACKAGE. WE THINK IT'S INCREDIBLY IMPORTANT THAT WE BE GIVEN THE RESOURCES TO HELP OURSELVES. TOP DOWN SOLUTIONS HASN'T WORKED OR HELPED OUR COMMUNITY. WE NEED A STRONG COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT TO HELP US WITH THE REVITALIZATION AND REDEVELOPMENT THAT WAS SPOKEN OF SO ELOQUENTLY. ANCILLARY DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITIES AND CONTRIBUTIONS TO A REVITALIZATION OF DOWNTOWN IS SOMETHING THAT -- >> THANK YOU, YOUR TIME IS UP. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON. HOW MANY MORE SPEAKERS DO WE HAVE? >> THAT CONCLUDED PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THAT IS THE END OF PUBLIC COMMENT? OKAY. COUNCILORS, WE'RE GOING TO GO AHEAD AND MOVE WITH A FEW MORE ITEMS ON THE AGENDA. I THINK THAT WE WILL TRY TO GET THROUGH -- IT'S 7:22. LET'S TRY TO GET THROUGH, AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE, THROUGH OUR -- AT LEAST TO OUR DEFERRALS AND WITHDRAWALS. AND WE'LL DECIDE IF WE WANT TO TAKE A SHORT BREAK AND COME BACK. BECAUSE WE TYPICALLY ADJOURN AT 10:30. I'M THINKING THIS MEETING MIGHT GO BEYOND THAT. I'M GOING TO TRY TO MOVE THIS AGENDA ALONG A LITTLE BIT FASTER THAN NORMAL. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ADMINISTRATION QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS. COUNCILOR SENA AND COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. SENA: I THINK I'LL RESERVE MY QUESTIONS FOR OFFLINE TO BE RESPECTFUL OF OUR TIME. I WILL JUST FOLLOW-UP IN TERMS OF MY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SENA, FOR THAT. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'M GOING TO SKIP MOST OF MY QUESTIONS SO THAT WE CAN MOVE ALONG. COUNCILOR SENA, I'M TOTALLY INTERESTED IN HEARING THE ANSWERS TO YOUR QUESTIONS WHEN YOU RECEIVE THEM, IF YOU DON'T MIND SHARING. SOME OF THE QUESTIONS ARE REGARDING, AND I'LL TRY TO MAKE THEM BRIEF. SOME OF THEM ARE TIME SENSITIVE. IN REGARD TO THE OVERTIME VIOLATIONS AND AUDIT DONE WITH APD I WANT TO KNOW MORE ABOUT INFORMATION AND WE'RE HEARING A LOT ABOUT HOW THERE'S SO MANY MORE VIOLATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN FOUND IN REGARD TO OVERTIME, I'M GOING TO USE THE WORD ABUSE, BUT WHAT CONSIDERATIONS AND FLEXIBILITY HAVE BEEN OFFERED IN REGARD TO SOME OF THE OVERTIME PROVISION GIVEN THAT WE JUST HAD COVID LAST YEAR AND YOU HAD SO MANY OFFICERS THAT COULDN'T WORK BECAUSE OF COVID AND THEY GOT ILL, OR THEY ASKED TO DO EXTRA BECAUSE WE NEEDED MORE STAFFING ELSEWHERE. WHERE DOES THAT FALL ON THE PERMISSIONS THAT WERE GIVEN? >>COUN. BORREGO: WE'LL GO TO THE CHIEF'S OFFICE. >> I'M GOING TO GIVE CHIEF M MEDINA AN OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, COMMANDER. >> IN RESPECT TO OVERTIME AND COVID, WE HAD OFFICERS WHO WERE SICK AND OFFICERS WHO HAD TO FILL IN FOR THAT TIME. WE HAVE A 25-HOUR OVERTIME CAP THAT SOMETIMES HAS TO BE LIFTED. THAT WAS OFTEN DONE DURING COVID. IT HAS BEEN DONE WHEN WE DON'T HAVE OFFICERS AVAILABLE TO WORK THAT OVERTIME. WE DID SEE AN INCREASE IN OVERTIME DURING THAT TIME. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. DO WE KNOW IF BECAUSE OF THAT THERE WAS LEEWAY GIVEN? I'M CONCERNED BECAUSE I'M HEARING FROM CERTAIN PEOPLE THAT THERE'S A POTENTIAL FOR OFFICERS TO BE RELIEVED OF DUTY FOR HAVING EXCESSIVE OVERTIME. I WONDER WHERE THE BOUNDARY IS FOR THAT. COVID IS AN EXCUSE AND REASON FOR SO MANY THINGS WE'VE ENCOUNTERED IN THE LAST YEAR. I DON'T WANT TO SEE MORE GOOD OFFICERS FALLING UNDER SOME KIND OF POTENTIAL REACTION TO AN OVERTIME PROBLEM WHEN THEY MAY NOT HAVE BEEN AT FAULT WHEN WE HAVE THOSE OTHER PARAMETERS WE NEED TO CONTEND WITH. I GUESS I'M ASKING ARE WE EXPECTING TO BE RELIEVING OFFICERS BECAUSE OF THESE OVERTIME PROBLEMS? >> NO, WE'RE NOT EXPECTING TO BE RELIEVING THE OFFICERS. BUT IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT WE HAVE A POLICY SPECIFIC TO OVERTIME THAT OFFICERS ARE REQUIRED TO FOLLOW. IF THAT POLICY IS DEFICIENT, IT'S SOMETHING WE NEED TO ADDRESS. IF THERE'S INTENTION THERE, DISCIPLINE WILL FOLLOW. OFFICERS DO HAVE TO ADHERE TO THE POLICY WE HAVE IN PLACE. WE'LL ADDRESS ANY DEFICIENCIES IN THE POLICY. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, THIS IS CHIEF MEDINA. IF I CAN ADD TO THAT, ONE OF THE THINGS TO REMEMBER IS THAT ON THE MONTHS WHERE WE ARE SHORT, WE DO HAVE THE ABILITY TO LIFT OUR OVERTIME CAP. THAT WAS DONE MANY TIMES DURING THE HEIGHT OF COVID. WE HAVE NOT BEGAN ANY QUESTIONS INTO INDIVIDUALS THAT I'M AWARE OF BECAUSE THEY PURPOSELY WENT OVER THE CAP. OUR INVESTIGATIONS ARE FOCUSED ON INDIVIDUALS WHO CRIMINALLY DID ACTIONS WITH OVERTIME BY HAVING THE LEEWAY AND COULD HAVE ABUSED OVERTIME BY SCHEDULING THINGS AT A TIME THAT WAS CONVENIENT TO GET OVERTIME. IT'S NOT A CASE WHERE WE'RE JUST GOING OUT AND LOOKING FOR INDIVIDUALS TO FIND THEM TO PUT INDIVIDUALS RELIEVING OF DUTY. I THINK THAT'S THE FAR EXTREME. I THINK THERE'S BEEN EXTREMELY RARE CASES WHERE THAT HAS OCCURRED. ON THE TOP OF MY MIND, THAT ONLY OCCURRED ONE OR TWO TIMES WITHIN THE PAST YEAR. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, CHIEF. THIS IS REALLY GOOD TO HEAR. WITH PEOPLE'S JOBS ON THE LINE AND WITH THE PROBLEMS STAFFING APD I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO KNOW THE BOUNDARIES. HOW DO YOU DECIPHER IF A DC IS APPROVING THE OVERTIME AND WHERE DO WE GO FROM THERE IF SOMEBODY IS FOUND TO BE ABUSING IT? I DON'T KNOW THE POLICY ON THAT. WHO GETS THE BLAME, I GUESS? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, THIS IS GETTING REALLY CLOSE IN FACT PATTERNS TO A CASE WE ACTIVELY HAVE RIGHT NOW. WE NEED TO LET THE CASE TAKE ITS COURSE. THERE'S SEVERAL FACTORS THAT WILL BE LOOKED INTO. IT'S KIND OF LIKE WE HAVE TO REMEMBER, AND I REFLECT THIS BACK TO OUR PURSUIT POLICY. IT'S AN OFFICER'S JOB NOT TO START A PURSUIT, NOT FOR A SUPERVISOR TO CALL OUT THE PURSUIT THAT DOESN'T MEET THE DEPARTMENTAL GUIDELINES. THE SAME WAY WITH OVERTIME IT'S INCUMBENT THAT AN OFFICER PUT IN FOR OVERTIME PROPERLY AND THEY NOT BE TOLD TO STOP OVERTIME WHEN IT'S BEING ABUSED. THE >> IN THE MIDDLE GROUND, THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND OR LIKE THE DOJ REFORM PROCESS ALL THE WAY THROUGH NOT FEELING SUPPORTED BY THE DEPARTMENT. IT'S VERY INDIVIDUAL, THERE'S A VARIETY OF DIFFERENT REASONS. IT'S SOMETHING WE TAKE ACCOUNT AND LOOK FOR. I THINK THAT'S IMPERATIVE THAT WE CONTINUE TO MAKE CHANGES. ONE OF THE BIGGEST COMPLAINTS WE'VE HEARD FROM OFFICERS CURRENTLY IS DISCIPLINE PROCESS THAT WE HAD PRIOR AS YOU KNOW, AS EVERYBODY MAY BE AWARE THAT PROCESS WAS IN PLACE SINCE 2016. WE GOT THAT UPDATED AND IT DID ASSIST US IN WHAT WE CALL PROGRESSIVE DISCIPLINE. IT DID MAKE IT A LITTLE MORE IN LINE WITH WHAT OTHER AGENCIES DO. IT DOES HELP THE OFFICERS TO ENSURE THEY'RE NOT BEING OVER DISCIPLINED IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES. >>COUN. BASSAN: CHIEF, ONE FOLLOW-UP TO THAT, IS THERE, AND I KNOW I'M NOT ASKING PEOPLE'S NAMES. I DON'T WANT TO KNOW PEOPLE'S NAMES. IS THERE A SPECIFIC POSITION -- WHO DOES THE EXIT INTERVIEWS? >> USUALLY THEY'RE CONDUCTED THROUGH THE HR PROCESS AND WE HAVE TO GET OUR HR DIRECTOR TO EXPLAIN THE EXACT PROCESS. THEY'RE GENERALLY DONE THROUGH THE EXIT PROCESS THROUGH HR. >>COUN. BASSAN: I'LL FOLLOW UP AND SEE IF WE CAN GET THAT EXPLAINED. THANK YOU FOR INDULGING ME. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU,COUNCILOR BASSAN. UNDER ADMINISTRATION QUESTIONS AND ANSWERS, COUNCILOR SENA SUBMITTED QUESTIONS TO ANIMAL WELFARE. AND HR. COUNCILOR BASSAN HAS A NUMBER OF QUESTIONS FOR APD. WE WOULD APPRECIATE IF YOU, EACH OF THOSE DEPARTMENTS, WOULD LOOK AT THE QUESTIONS AND WE'RE HAPPY TO SEND THEM TO YOU. I THINK YOU'VE ALREADY RECEIVED THEM. IF YOU WOULD PROVIDE WRITTEN RESPONSES REGARDING THOSE QUESTIONS AND IF YOU WOULD SEND THAT TO ALL OF THE COUNCILORS WE'D CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THAT. COUNCILOR BENTON, DO YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP FOR A REASON? >>COUN. BENTON: YES, I DO, MADAM PRESIDENT. JUST VERY QUICKLY. FOLLOW-UP WITH CHIEF MEDINA AND COUNCILOR BASSAN'S QUESTION. I HOPE I MISUNDERSTOOD, BUT DID I HEAR YOU SAY THAT IT'S THE OFFICER'S RESPONSIBILITY NOT TO START A PURSUIT AND IF SO, COULD YOU EXPLAIN THAT? THANK YOU, CHIEF. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR, THAT IS A QUESTION FOR CHIEF MEDINA? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. BENTON: I'M SORRY, MY CONNECTIVITY IS BAD TOO. DID I HEAR YOU SAY IT'S THE OFFICER'S RESPONSIBILITY TO NOT START A PURSUIT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BENTON, THAT'S CORRECT. IN OUR PURSUIT POLICY THE FIRST STEP IN PROTECTING THE COMMUNITY AND ENSURING THAT UNAUTHORIZED PURSUIT DOESN'T ENDANGER THE PUBLIC AND MEETS OUR EXPECTATIONS OF WHAT CONSTITUTES A LAWFUL PURSUIT IS THE OFFICER MAKING THE DECISION WHETHER HE SHOULD INITIATE THE PURSUIT OR NOT. >>COUN. BENTON: UNDERSTOOD. WE'RE NOT DISCOURAGING OFFICERS, I HOPE, FROM INITIATING A PURSUIT WHEN IT'S WARRANTED? >> OH, NO. WE HAVE CLEAR GUIDELINES OF WHEN THEY SHOULD, WHEN THEY SHOULDN'T, AND A SAFETY OFFICER MUST APPROVE THE CONTINUATION OF THE PURSUIT. >> THAT REALLY SOUNDS LIKE A VERY DIFFICULT CHAIN OF COMMAND WHEN AN OFFICER IS DRIVING AN A UNIT AND IS GOING TO DECIDE AND THERE'S GOING TO BE SOME THIRD-PARTY THAT IS GOING TO AUTHORIZE THAT. I COULD UNDERSTAND THAT. WE HAVE A LOT OF -- AS YOU KNOW, CHIEF, AND I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME CHIEF. WE HAVE A LOT OF VERY AGGRESSIVE PEOPLE ON THE ROADWAYS. I'M TALKING ABOUT AGGRESSIVE URBAN ACTIVITY INCLUDING FIREARMS. I REALLY LIKE TO HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT WITH REGARD TO SOME SUPERVISOR TELLING AN OFFICER WHETHER OR NOT THEY'RE GOING TO INITIATE A PURSUIT AND I'M SURE THAT WE'LL HEAR SOMETHING ABOUT THE DOJ SETTLEMENT. I REALLY NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT. THANK YOU, CHIEF. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. COUNCILOR BASSAN, DID YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP? >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. COUNCILOR, I WOULD LOVE TO ME A PART OF THAT IF YOU HAVE ME. >>COUN. BORREGO: I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THE RESULT OF THAT DISCUSSION. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, WE COULD DISCUSS THAT OFFLINE AT A LATER TIME. OUR POLICY HAS BEEN EXISTENCE FOR THE ENTIRE 26 YEARS OF MY CAREER. IT'S IN LINE WITH BEST PRACTICES ACROSS THE NATION. I THINK WE NEED TO REMEMBER PUBLIC SAFETY. WE'VE HAD NUMEROUS PURSUITS IN WHICH WE'VE HAD MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC KILLED. OUR POLICY WEIGHS THE DANGER TO THE COMMUNITY AND KILLING INNOCENT FAMFAMILIES. AND THE NECESSITY OF HOW TO GET THE SPIKT SUSPECT MRNG AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO HAVING THIS CONVERSATION WHEN COUNCIL IS READY. >>COUN. BORREGO: MAY I SUGGEST THAT YOU CONTACT COUNCILOR SENA AND THIS MAY BE AN ITEM ON THE AGENDA FOR PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE? ALL COUNCILORS ARE FREE TO JOIN ON THAT DISCUSSION AT THE COMMITTEE LEVEL. THANK YOU. WE'LL MOVE ON. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM NUMBER SIX, WHICH IS OUR JOURNAL. COUNCILOR GIBSON. >>COUN. GIBSON: I WILL MOVE APPROVAL OF THE AUGUST 2nd JOURNAL. >>COUN. BORREGO: YOU HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BENTON. ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCILORS? IF NOT, MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. >> 9-0. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. THAT ITEM PASSES 9-0. WE'LL MOVE TO COMMUNICATIONS AND INTRODUCTIONS. ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION? COUNCILOR BENTON. COUNCILOR BENTON? >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. MADAM PRESIDENT. I DO NOT -- I'M NOT ABLE -- >>COUN. BORREGO: WOULD YOU LIKE ME TO MOVE THAT FOR YOU? I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR PLACING O-74 FOR ACTION. IT'S AMENDING ORDINANCE RELATING TO THE AUTHORIZATION, ISSANCE AND SALE OF THE INDUSTRIAL REVENUE BOND TAX-EXEMPT STATUS SERIES 2021 AND PROVIDING FOR THE ISSUANCE OF THE BOND AS A TAXABLE BOND. WE DO NEED TWO-THIRDS OF COUNCILORS PRESENT REQUIRED. COUNCILOR BENTON, ARE YOU WITH US? >>COUN. BENTON: I AM, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'LL SECOND THAT. THANKS FOR MOVING. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR DAVIS, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR A SECOND IN. >>COUN. DAVIS: JUST A SECOND. >>COUN. BORREGO: ANY QUESTIONS FROM COUNCIL? I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS. WE'LL MOVE ON TO MS. ORTEGA FOR THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS THAT ITEM PASSES ON A 9-0 VOTE. WE'LL MOVE TO THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS, COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR THE PURPOSE OF R-189 ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA. IT'S ACCEPTING AND APPROPRIATING FAA GRANT FUNDING FROM THE ARA FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AVIATION DEPARTMENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR DAVIS. YOU HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR JONES. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS REGARDING THIS? I'LL JUST ALSO NOTE THAT WE NEED TWO-THIRDS OF COUNCILORS PRESENT RECORDING THIS ISSUE IN ORDER FOR IT TO PASS. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. THAT ITEM PASSES ON A 9-0 VOTE. WE'LL MOVE TO THE NEXT ITEM. IT'S COUNCILOR PEÑA, COUNCILOR SENA, COUNCILOR BORREGO. COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR PLACING R-193 FOR ACTION. IT'S DIRECTING THAT THE CITY EXPAND THE SITE SELECTION EVALUATION FOR A PURPOSED MULTI-USE SOCCER STADIUM TO INCLUDE EVALUATION OF ONE OR MORE OPTIONS WEST AND APPROPRIATING THE FUNDS FOR THE SAME. I MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR PEÑA. WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR SENA. WE NEED TWO-THIRDS OF COUNCILORS PRESENT REQUIRED TO VOTE IN ORDER FOR IT TO PASS. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANY COUNCILORS? COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE NOT MOVING A DUE PASS. IT'S RULES BE SUSPENDED. >>COUN. PEÑA: THAT'S MY ERROR, SORRY. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR PEÑA. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? I DO NOT SEE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS. MS. ORTEGA FOR THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. THAT CONCLUDES THAT ORDER OF BUSINESS. COUNCILOR GIBSON. >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GIBSON. I'LL SECOND THAT. COUNCILOR SENA ALSO PROVIDED A SECOND. ANY QUESTIONS? IF NOT, WE'LL MOVE TO MS. ORTEGA FOR THE VOTE. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR HARRIS, I THINK YOU'RE UNMUTED. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION PASSES ON A 9-0 VOTE. WE'LL MOVE TO REPORTS OF COMMITTEE. AND WE WILL TAKE A -- 20-MINUTE RECESS. DOES THAT SOUND REASONABLE, COUNCILORS? IS THAT ENOUGH TIME FOR YOU? OR WE CAN TAKE A HALF-HOUR. >>COUN. JONES: ARE WE TALKING AFTER THIS ITEM? >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. IT LOOKS LIKE 20 MINUTES IS WHAT I'M SEEING. REPORTS OF COMMITTEES. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THE FINANCE AND GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE MET ON MONDAY AUGUST 9th AND REPORTS THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. IN THE MATTER OF EC396, 398, 400, 404 BE APPROVED. 183, 184, 185 DUE PASS. AND 402 AND 405 RECEIPT BE NOTED. 375 BE WITHOUT RECOMMENDATION. I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE REPORTS. >>COUN. BORREGO: YOU HAVE SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BENTON. WE NEED A VOTE ON THIS, MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN. THAT PASSES ON A 9-0 VOTE. COUNCILOR SENA. >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THE PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE MET ON TUESDAY AUGUST 10. ON THE MATTER OF EC397 BE APPROVED. IN THE MATTER OF R188 DUE PASS AS AMENDED ASK ACTED ON AT THE MEETING IN WHICH IT'S REPORTED. I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE REPORT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SENA. YOU HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BENTON AND COUNCILOR BASSAN. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE REPORT. SO, I HAVE A REQUEST, COUNCILORS. I KNOW I SAID WE WERE GOING TO TAKE A 20 MINUTE BREAK. THERE WAS A REQUEST FROM THE ADMINISTRATION THAT WE DO THE CONSENT AGENDA BEFORE WE TAKE THAT BREAK IN ORDER FOR OUR DEPARTMENT DIRECTOR THAT DON'T NEED TO BE WITH US TILL 10 O'CLOCK OR 11 O'CLOCK. I MOVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. I'M GOING TO READ THIS INTO THE RECORD. FOR THE INDIVIDUALS ON TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA WHO ARE BEING APPOINTED TO SERVE ON BOARDS OR COMMISSIONS, WE THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE. AND COUNCILOR GIBSON. >>COUN. GIBSON: I'LL MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GIBSON. YOU HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. BENTON: MADAM PRESIDENT. I'LL GO AHEAD AND SECOND THAT, BUT I GUESS I'M NOT SECONDING IT. I WOULD LIKE TO PULL -- NOW I CAN'T FIND IT. THE VACATION OF RIGHT-OF-WAY. ONE OF THE TWO VACATION OF RIGHT-OF-WAYS. I'M SORRY. >>COUN. BORREGO: LET ME SEE IF I CAN FIND IF FOR YOU. I SAW THAT ON THE AGENDA. >>COUN. BENTON: IT WAS MR. -- VACATION OF RIGHT-OF-WAY. >>COUN. BORREGO: ITEM H. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. I'LL MOVE THAT WE PULL THAT. WELL, THERE'S NO VOTE ON THAT. I WILL PULL THAT FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA AND I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE -- >>COUN. BORREGO: OKAY, WE -- COUNCILOR GIBSON YOU MADE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE CONSENT AGENDA. CAN YOU AMEND IT WITH THAT EXCEPTION? >>COUN. GIBSON: I'M GLAD TO MAKE THAT MOTION WITH THE EXCEPTION. >>COUN. BORREGO: THAT WAS ITEM H. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. AND COUNCILOR BENTON YOU SECONDED THE CONSENT AGENDA. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE GO TO THE VOTE? I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. >>COUN. BENTON: MADAM CHAIR, I MOVE DEFERRAL UNTIL OUR NEXT MEETING ON THAT ITEM THAT WE PULLED. >>COUN. BORREGO: OKAY, COUNCILOR BENTON, THAT'S EC399. YOU'RE MOVING A DEFERRAL. YOU HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR DAVIS AND COUNCILOR HARRIS. ANY QUESTIONS? IF NOT, MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. COUNCILOR BENTON, THAT WAS DEFERRED UNTIL SEPTEMBER 8. THANK YOU FOR THAT. COUNCILORS, WITH THAT WE'LL TAKE A 20-MINUTE BREAK. IT IS TEN MINUTES UNTIL 8 O'CLOCK. WE'LL BE BACK AT 10 AFTER 10 O'CLOCK. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: GOOD EVENING, COUNCILORS, LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, THIS IS THE CONTINUATION OF THE 39th MEETING OF THE 24th COUNCIL. WE'RE RECONVENING. COUNCILORS, WE LEFT OFF WITH DEFERRALED AND WITHDRAWALS. WE WILL START WITH DEFERRALS AND WITHDRAWALS. ARE THERE ANY DEFERRALS OR WITHDRAWALS AT THIS TIME? I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE DEFER O-49 TO THE NOVEMBER 15th MEETING. I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR SENA. IS THERE ANY COMMENTS? IF NOT, MS. ORTEGA FOR THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. THAT PASSES ON AN 8-0 VOTE. WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM B, COUNCILOR DAVIS AND COUNCILOR BENTON. O-50. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I MOVE DEFERRAL ON O-50 WHICH AMENDING CHAPTER TWO ARTICLE 11 OF ORDINANCE. I MOVE DEFERRAL UNTIL SEPTEMBER 8TH. >>COUN. BORREGO: WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO THE VOTE. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. OKAY, COUNCILORS, I'M GOING TO ADD ONE MORE ITEM TO THE DEFERRALS. I WILL MOVE THAT WE DEFER ITEM M TO THE SEPTEMBER 8th HEARING. I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN, FOR THE SECOND. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. WE WILL MOVE ON TO OUR ANNOUNCEMENTS. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE WILL BE A FINANCE AND GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE MEETING ON MONDAY AUGUST 23rd AT 3 P.M. VIA ZOOM. AND THERE'S AN ALBUQUERQUE-BERNALILLO COUNTY GOVERNMENT COMMISSION MEETING ON THURSDAY AUGUST 26th AT 5 P.M. VIA ZOOM VIDEO CONFERENCE. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN. COUNCILOR JONES. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THERE'S A LAND USE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE MEETING ON WEDNESDAY, AUGUST 25th AT 5 P.M. VIA ZOOM VIDEO CONFERENCE. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR JONES. COUNCILORS, WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ITEM 12 TO THE END OF THE AGENDA. THE PUBLIC HEARING WILL BE AT THE END OF THE AGENDA. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO APPROVALS, WHICH THERE ARE NONE. WE'LL MOVE ON TO FINAL ACTIONS. I WOULD LIKE TO CHANGE OUR AGENDA SOMEWHAT. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE ITEM K, R-178 AND ITEM P TO THE BEGINNING OF THE AGENDA. WE WILL HEAR THESE ITEMS SIMULTANEOUSLY. AND UNLESS THERE'S ANY OBJECTION COUNCILORS. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM K. COUNCILOR BENTON AND COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT, I'M GOING TO MOVE THE ITEM R-187, THIS IS CONCERNING A BOND ELECTION TO BE HELD ON THE NEXT REGULAR ELECTION ON NOVEMBER 2nd SUBMITTED TO THE QUALIFIED REGISTERED ELECTORS. RELATING TO THE ISSUANCE OF GROSS RECEIPT TAX RENEW BONDS UP TO $50 MILLION TO CONSTRUCT A PUBLIC STADIUM FOR MULTIPLE USES INCLUDING PROFESSIONAL SOCCER EVENTS AND THE DESIGNATION CLAUSE ON THE BALLOT. I MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON. IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR HARRIS. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR HARRIS FOR THE SECOND. WITH THAT, THIS WAS PART OF OUR EARLIER DISCUSSION UNDER PUBLIC COMMENT. I THINK THAT WE COULD PROBABLY CONTINUE THE QUESTION AND ANSWER PERIOD. I THINK WE STILL HAVE THE CONSULTANTS ONLINE. I DIDN'T KNOW IF THERE WAS ANY COMMENT FROM THE CONSULTANTS OR ADMINISTRATION? MR. BARRETT. >> YES, WE'RE HERE FOR QUESTIONS IF YOU HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS. I'M HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. >> I DO APOLOGIZE, THIS IS JOE. I APOLOGIZE MY VIDEO STOPPED WORKING. I'M HEREBY PHONE. >>COUN. BORREGO: WE CAN HEAR YOU SIR. WE HAVE A QUESTION FROM COUNCILOR JONES. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THIS IS WILL BE OUR ONLY DISCUSSION AS A COUNCIL REGARDING THE $50 MILLION TO ACQUIRE AND BUILD A STADIUM? >>COUN. BORREGO: YES, COUNCILOR. WE'RE GOING TO HEAR THIS ITEM RIGHT NOW. >>COUN. JONES: WE WILL HAVE THIS BEFORE WE HAVE ANY DISCUSSION AT ALL ABOUT THE STADIUM? >>COUN. BORREGO: THIS PARTICULAR ITEM -- HOLD ON A MINUTE, COUNCILOR. THAT DISCUSSION WOULD BE APPROPRIATE RIGHT NOW. >>COUN. JONES: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO GIVE A PRESENTATION ABOUT THE STADIUM OR SHALL WE START ASKING QUESTIONS? >>COUN. BORREGO: I HAD ASKED IF THE CONSULTANTS WANTED TO GIVE ANY PRESENTATION OR -- THEY DID EARLIER -- >>COUN. JONES: THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE CONSULTANTS IT HAS TO DO WITH THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AND THE LONG-TERM COMMITMENT WE'RE MAKING. I WOULD LIKE TO ASK SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PLAN WITH THE USER OF THE STADIUM ON WHAT KIND OF CONTRACT WE WOULD HAVE WITH THEM, HOW LONG THEY'RE GOING TO BE. I WOULD LIKE SOME PRESENTATION ABOUT THAT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR JONES. I ASKED THE ADMINISTRATION IF THEY WANTED TO MAKE A PRESENTATION. I'M LOOKING FOR THE ADMINISTRATION. THERE THEY ARE. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, FIRST AND FOREMOST WE WANT TO MAKE SURE TO HONOR YOU ALL WITH THE REQUEST TO HAVE THE CONSULTANTS SO YOU MAY ASK QUESTIONS RELATED TO THE STUDY. IF YOU LIKE FOR US TO MOVE ON TO THE THE NEXT LEVEL OF CONVERSATION, WE'D BE HAPPY TO DO THAT. >>COUN. JONES: MADAM PRESIDENT, IF WHERE MAY. >>COUN. BORREGO: YOU STILL HAVE THE FLOOR. >>COUN. JONES: I THINK IT WOULD BE RATHER INAPPROPRIATE FOR US TO VOTE SUPPORTING A BOND ISSUE IF WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT'S GOING TO GO FOR, THE COST AND LONG-TERM COMMITMENT THE CITY WILL BE MAKING IN ORDER TO DO THIS. IT SEEMS IT'S A BIG QUESTION FOR THE CITY. >>COUN. BORREGO: MR. RAEL, I THINK IT WOULD BE HIGHLY APPROPRIATE FOR THE ADMINISTRATION TO MAKE A PRESENTATION REGARDING THE ENTIRE ISSUE. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I'D BE HAPPY TO MAKE A PRESENTATION. BEFORE YOU IS THE RESOLUTION THAT AUTHORIZES THE PLACEMENT OF A BOND QUESTION ON THE NOVEMBER ELECTION IN WHICH WE WOULD BE ASKING THE VOTERS IF THEY WANT TO COMMITMENT TO SPENDING $50 MILLION FOR THE PURPOSES OF BUILDING A MILT-PURPOSE SOCCER FACILITY IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. THE QUESTION IN ITSELF WOULD BE PART OF THE ALL OF THE OTHER BOND QUESTIONS THROUGH THE BALLOT. SHOULD THE COUNCIL APPROVE THAT, THE VOTERS WOULD WEIGH IN, IF YOU WILL, GIVING THE CITY OF APPROVAL OF YES OR NO ON WHETHER TO MAKE THAT COMMITMENT. AS YOU ALL KNOW, WE ENGAGED THE CONSULTANTS SEVERAL MONTHS TO GO TO GIVE US A PROFESSIONAL VIEW OF THE TEAM ET CETERA. THEY HAVE PRESENTED THAT TO YOU TONIGHT. THE THE NEXT ORDER OF BUSINESS IS REALLY A QUESTION OF WHETHER OR NOT THE CITIZENS, WITH THAT INFORMATION, WANT TO MAKE THE DECISION TO SUPPORT THE BOND QUESTION. TO COUNCILOR JONES'S, I BELIEVE, QUESTIONS. LET ME SAY A FEW THINGS ABOUT THE QUESTIONS AND ANSWER A FEW QUESTIONS THAT SHE MAY HAVE. AS IT RELATES TO THE SITES THAT HAVE BEEN PRESENTED BY THE CONSULTANT. THAT'S THEIR RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE CITY. THE SITES THEMSELVES ARE BASED ON THEIR PROFESSIONAL, IF YOU WILL, EXPERIENCE IN FINDING STADIUMS WHERE THEY MAKE THE BEST ECONOMIC BENEFIT FOR THE COMMUNITY. AND THE SITES ARE FOR OUR CONSIDERATION AND REVIEW. IF THE VOTERS APPROVE THE BOND QUESTION, THE ADMINISTRATION IS PREPARED HAVE A THOROUGH CONVERSATION WITH THE COMMUNITY TO INCLUDE POTENTIALLY OTHER SITES THAT MAY BE UP FOR CONSIDERATION. AS NECESSARY FOR THE NOVEMBER 11 ELECTION SHOULD THAT BOND ISSUE BE VOTED FOR SUCCESSFULLY. I WOULD SAY TO THE COUNCILORS THAT THE PERSPECTIVE OF HOW THIS FACILITY WOULD BE MANAGED AND OPERATED, IT WILL BE A PUBLICLY OWNED FACILITY. IT'S OWNED BY THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. A LOT LIKE THE ISOTOPES PARK TODAY. THAT FACILITY IS A CITY-OWNED FACILITY. THE TEAM WILL BE -- WE'LL WORK WITH THE TEAM IN PUTTING TOGETHER A CONTRACT, A RENTAL AGREEMENT, IF YOU WILL, FOR THE USE OF THE FACILITY. A LOT LIKE WE DO TODAY WITH ISOTOPES PARK. THAT RENTAL AGREEMENT WILL BE NEGOTIATED, AGAIN, SHOULD THE VOTERS APPROVE THE AGREEMENT. ONE OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE HAVE HERE AS IT RELATES TO THE PROJECT IS HOW MUCH DO WE DO UP FRONT BEFORE THE VOTERS GET THE PERSPECTIVE THAT WE'VE ALREADY MADE THE DECISION EITHER ON THE SITE OR ON THE PROGRAM ITSELF AS WE DON'T KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD APPROVE THE BOND QUESTION. MORE IMPORTANTLY, IF YOU LOOK AT THE MODEL WE HAVE WITH ISOTOPES PARK, THE MODEL WE HAVE THERE IS FAIRLY STRAIGHT-FORWARD. THE TEAM RENTS THE FACILITY FROM THE CITY. THE CITY ALSO BENEFITS FROM ADDITIONAL REVENUES FROM THE GOODS AND SERVICES SOLD AT THE FACILITY TO HELP THE COST ASSOCIATED WITH THE BONDS THAT WERE ISSUED WITH USING THOSE REVENUES FROM THOSE CONCESSIONS. AND SECONDLY, THE FUNDS THAT ARE GENERATED FROM THE ISOTOPES PARK PAY FOR A GOOD PORTION OF THE MAINTENANCE AND OPERATIONAL COST OF MAINTAINING THE FIELD. THE FIELD IN THESE KINDS OF FACILITIES NEED TO BE MAINTAINED PROFESSIONALLY AT A HIGH LEVEL AND HIGH QUALITY, THAT WOULD BE THE BURDEN ON THE TENANT THAT USES THE FIELD, IN THIS CASE, IF UNITED BECOMES THE PRIMARY TENET. IT'S MY PERSPECTIVE THAT THE CITY WOULD RESERVE THE RIGHT TO USE THE FACILITY FOR OTHER USES TO INCLUDE USING USES FOR HIGH SCHOOL SOCCER AND MAYBE OTHER, IF YOU WILL, OTHER OPPORTUNITIES AS CITED BY THE CONSULTANT. WHETHER IT'S CONCERTS OR USING IT FOR AN OPEN-AIR MARKET OR THE LIKE. THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE TEAM. AND THE REVENUES THAT ARE GENERATED FROM THE USE OF THE FACILITY AND THE RENTAL OF THE FACILITY WOULD GO BACK TO PAY FOR THE OPERATIONS OF THE FACILITY OR COULD BE USED TO PAY BONDS FOR ADDITIONAL ITEMS WE MIGHT WANT TO HAVE IN THE FILT. AS NOTED IN THE CONVERSATION WITH THE CONSULTANTS, IF WE OFFER TO PUT ADDITIONAL CURVINGS WE MAY USE REVENUES FROM THE TENETS TO PAY FOR THOSE AMENITIES OR PERHAPS A SCOREBOARD OR OTHER AMENITIES THAT WE MIGHT FIND USEFUL IN HAVING A CLASS A FACILITY THAT -- OR MAYBE THE TEAM IS INTERESTED IN PAYING FOR. ALL THOSE NEGOTIATIONS WITH THE TEAM ARE STILL TO BE HAD. IT'S PREMATURE TO HAVE MUCH OF THOSE CONVERSATIONS, GIVEN THE FACT IF THE VOTERS DO NOT SUPPORT THE BOND QUESTION, THEN WE REALLY DON'T HAVE A NEGOTIATE TO BE HAD. ALL OF THAT IS BEING WORKED ON IN TERMS OF GETTING ALL THE INFORMATION LINED UP. THE IDEA IS TO GO STRAIGHT -- TO ASK THE VOTERS TO GIVE US A NOD IF THIS IS THE RIGHT THING TO DO FOR THE CITY. ONCE THAT IS DONE WE'LL GO THROUGH THE CONVERSATION ABOUT THE SITE OF THE FACILITY AND AT THE SAME TIME GO THROUGH A PROCESS OF ENGAGING AN ARCHITECT TO DETERMINE THE REAL COST OF THE FACILITY. AS YOU KNOW THESE ARE JUST ESTIMATES. ESTIMATES BASED ON TODAY'S DOLLARS AND THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE ACTUAL SITE. WE WOULD NEED TO DO ALL OF THAT IN CONJUNCTION WITH THE CONVERSATION OF THE PRIMARY TENANT TO NEGOTIATE A LEASE AND OUTLINE THE DETAILS OF WHO WILL PAY FOR THE OPERATIONS, WHAT THE REVENUES FOR THE CITY, WHAT THAT IS DEDICATED TOWARD. >>COUN. JONES: IF I MAY, MADAM PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, MR. RAEL. I THINK I STILL HAVE THE FLOOR. YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT WE HAVE ESTIMATED THAT A FACILITY THAT THE CITY WOULD LIKE TO HAVE WOULD COST $50 MILLION OR WILL IT COST MORE THAN $50 MILLION? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, AND COUNCILOR JONES, THE CONSULTANTS HAVE GIVEN US A RANGE OF WHAT THIS COST WOULD BE. IT WOULD BE BETWEEN $65 MILLION AND $75 MILLION. DEPENDING ON THE SITE AND THE ACTUAL CONSTRUCTION ONCE WE GO THROUGH WHAT THE WHOLE DESIGN IS. WE'VE PROPOSED $50 MILLION, WHICH IS A PAYMENT OF $50 MILLION TO GET A BARE-BONES FACILITY. ANY ADDITIONAL NEEDS OF THE FILT WOULD BE A COST TO THE OWNERSHIP GROUP OR GOING TO THE LEGISLATURE FOR ADDITIONAL FUNDING. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE ABLE TO GET A BASIC FACILITY IN PLACE. >>COUN. JONES: IF I MAY, I'M GOING TO HAVE A LOT OF QUESTIONS. THANK YOU FOR MOVING IT UP ON THE AGENDA. MR. RAEL, YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT WE'RE COMMITTING TO BOND FOR $50 MILLION WHEN WE DON'T HAVE A ROUGH ESTIMATE WHEN THIS MIGHT BE, NOR WHERE WE WOULD GET THE ADDITIONAL MONEY WERE WE TO SAY THE STADIUM WERE $80 MILLION. THAT IS A POSSIBILITY? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR JONES, LET ME BE REALLY CLEAR. THE CITY IS NOT COMMITTING TO $50 MILLION TODAY. THE CITY IS ASKING THE VOTERS TO GIVE US AN APPROVAL OF WHETHER OR NOT WE SHOULD BOND UP TO $50 MILLION AFTER THE VOTE IN NOVEMBER. IF IN FACT THEY SAY YES, THEN WE'LL HAVE A BUDGET OF $50 MILLION IF WE GET ADDITIONAL REVENUES FROM THE STATE OR OTHERS TO BUILD THE FACILITY, WE'LL BUILD THE FACILITY TO THE REVENUES WE HAVE. I WANT TO BE REALLY CLEAR, THIS IS JUST SIMPLY ASKING THE VOTERS TO GIVE US THE AUTHORITY TO MOVE IN THE DIRECTION IF THEY APPROVE IT. >>COUN. JONES: HOW DID WE COME UP WITH $50 MILLION WHEN IT SOUNDS LIKE IT'S GOING TO QUITE A BIT MORE THAN THAT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR JONES, THE $50 MILLION WE'RE ASKING IN THIS BOND ELECTION IS SIMPLY TO BUILD A BASIC STADIUM THAT WOULD OPERATE ALLOT LIKE ISOTOPES PARK. AGAIN, IF WE HAVE ADDITIONAL REVENUES AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE LEGISLATURE APPROPRIATE ADDITIONAL FUNDING IN THE LAST TWO SESSIONS. WE WOULD HAVE MORE THAN $50 MILLION. CERTAINLY, WE CAN MEET A PROJECT THAT WOULD BE BUDGETED AT $50 MILLION OR IF WE GET ADDITIONAL REVENUES WE BUDGET TO THAT NUMBER. >>COUN. JONES: I WILL STOP ASKING THE QUESTION DIFFERENTLY. THIS IS THE KIND OF CONTRACT THAT WE WOULD FIND WITH THE USER, THEY WOULD CONTROL THE STADIUM? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR JONES, WE IN FACT HAVE A CONTRACT WITH THE BIG USER IN THE ISOTOPES TODAY. THEY MANAGE AND OPERATE THE FACILITY. WE DO HAVE THE AUTHORITY AND THE OPPORTUNITY TO USE THE FACILITY FOR CITY EVENTS LIKE THE SUNRISE SERVICE DURING EASTER OR OTHER EVENTS. THE RESULT OF THE CITY'S EFFORT AND THE FACT THAT WE OWN THE BUILDING WE CAN HAVE UNITED PLAY RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE A RECORD OF DOING THIS KIND OF WORK. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU, MR. RAEL. I WASN'T QUESTIONING THAT AT ALL. MR. RAEL, HOW LONG IS A CONTRACT NORMALLY SIGNED WHERE THE CITY IS COMMITTING MORE THAN $50 MILLION TO BUILD A STADIUM? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR JONES, I ACTUALLY NOTED THE CONTRACT WITH ISOTOPES WHEN I WAS WITH THE CITY YEARS AGO. IT IS MY INTENT THAT WE NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT WITH THE PRIMARY TENANT FOR THE LIFE OF THE BOND. SIMPLY BECAUSE WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE WORKING IN COLLABORATION TOGETHER TO ENSURE THE SADEIUM IS FINANCED AND THAT IT IS USED FOR THE PURPOSES WOO ASKED THE CITIZENS TO WEIGH IN. >>COUN. JONES: I'D BE REMIS FYDIDN'T ASK THIS. CAN THE FRENCH OR OR GUARANTEE THAT IF THE TEAM ISN'T SUCCESSFUL OR THEY GET A BETTER OFFER FROM ANOTHER CITY, WHAT IS THE SECURITY FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE NOW THAT THEY HAVE THIS BEAUTIFUL STADIUM AND PERHAPS THEY WOULD NO LONGER HAVE THE TENET FOR IT, WHAT KIND OF AGREEMENT ARE WE ANTICIPATING. NOT ASKING IF YOU'VE DONE IT, ALTHOUGH YOU SAY YOU HAVE AN AGREEMENT WITH THEM. WHAT KIND OF AN AGREEMENT DO THEY HAVE. WILL THEY DO THE UTILITY AND MAINTENANCE, WILL THE CITY BE PAYING SOME? WHAT'S THE DEAL HERE? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR JONES, LET ME MAKE SURE I'M CLEAR. WE DO NOT HAVE AN AGREEMENT AT THIS POINT. WE HAVE NOT NEGOTIATED AN AGREEMENT. WE'RE SIMPLY SAYING THAT WE'LL USE THE SAME MODEL THAT WE USE AT ISOTOPES IN WHICH THE PRIMARY TENETS PAY THE OPERATION AND MAINTENANCE OF THE FACILITY. THEY GET AN AGREEMENT THAT IS THE LIFE OF THE BOND. IF THEY CHOOSE TO LEAVE OR SOMETHING HAPPENS WITH THE TEAM WHICH YOU KNOW AS BEING A FORMER REAL ESTATE PROFESSIONAL THAT SOMETIMES THESE THINGS HAPPEN. THAT'S WHY IT'S IN THE BEST INTEREST OF THE CITY TO OWN THE FACILITY SO THE CITY CAN USE THE FACILITY MUCH LIKE WE DID YEARS AGO WHEN THE DUKES LEFT ALBUQUERQUE. WHEN THE CITY HAD AN OLD FACILITY AND ABLE TO RENOVATE THAT TO BRING A NEW TEAM. THIS IS A CIRCUMSTANCE WE DON'T WANT TO SEE. WE WOULD CERTAINLY TRY TO PUT WHATEVER WE COULD IN THE AGREEMENT TO ENSURE THERE'S STRUCTURE IN PLACE SO THAT IF THE TEAM LEAVES OR DECIDES TO PULL, WE HAVE SOME COVER FOR THE CITY AS IT RELATES TO THE FINANCIAL ISSUES. BY AND LARGE, THIS IS A CITY-OWNED FACILITY. >>COUN. JONES: I APPRECIATE THAT MR. RAEL, THEREFORE WE WILL NOT RECEIVE REAL ESTATE TAXES OFF OF THIS FACILITY? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR JONES NO. THIS WOULD BE A CITY-OWNED FACILITY. >>COUN. JONES: I HAVE MANY, MANY MORE QUESTIONS. I'M VERY RELUCTANT TO AGREE TO THIS WHEN I DON'T BELIEVE -- WE DO NOT HAVE AN AGREEMENT. WE DON'T HAVE ANYTHING SIGNED. WE DON'T ANY WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BUILD, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT IT'S GOING TO COST. OTHER THAN THAT, I'M ASSUMING THE CITIZENS WILL VOTE FOR IT. THANK YOU, MR. RAEL. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR JONES. WE'LL MOVE TO THE NEXT COUNCILOR. COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'LL TRY TO BE BRIEF. I WANT TO FOLLOW A COUPLE OF COUNCILOR JONES POINTS. I APPRECIATE THAT COUNCILOR JONES AND I HAD A CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT THIS EARLIER TODAY AND OVER THE WEEKEND. I WANTED TO FOLLOW WHAT YOU MENTIONED, WE DO HAVE A MODEL FOR THIS. WE'RE NOT TESTING THIS NOVO IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. YOU HAVE LOTS OF EXPERTISE WITH THE EXPERIENCE WITH ISOTOPES. CAN YOU REMIND ME, IT'S BEEN A FEW YEARS SINCE THE BUDGET DISCUSSION, UNDER THE MODEL WE USED AT THE ISOTOPES WE COLLECT AROUND $700,000 IN GUARANTEED PAYMENTS OR A LEASE? CAN YOU REMIND ME WITH HOW THAT WORKS? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR DAVIS, WE DO HAVE A MODEL. YOU'RE RIGHT. WE HAVE USED THAT VERY SUCCESSFULLY AND ACTUALLY WE'RE COMING ON 20 YEARS OF A GREAT FACILITY IN ISOTOPES PARK. OUR BASELINE AGREEMENT WAS A BASE RENT OF $700,000 A YEAR, PLUS AN ADDITIONAL PROCEEDS THAT WE WOULD SHARE IN THE GOODS AND SERVICES SOLD AT THE PARK THAT WOULD COME TO THE CITY. IT'S BEEN MY UNDERSTANDING THAT FOR SEVERAL YEARS, IF NOT FOR ALMOST EVERY YEAR, WE RECEIVED A PAYMENT WELL CLOSE TO A MILLION DOLLARS, IF NOT MORE. WITH THE EXCEPTION OF LAST YEAR, WHICH WAS A COVID YEAR. WE WERE ABLE TO PAY THOSE BONDS OFF EARLY. THOSE BONDS WERE FOR A SMALLER AMOUNT. NONETHELESS, IT'S A MODEL WE'VE USED BEFORE. >>COUN. DAVIS: MADAM PRESIDENT, TO FOLLOW. MR. RAEL, THANK YOU FOR REMINDING ME OF THAT. IT'S AN EASY ROUND NUMBER TO REMEMBER. THEY'RE GENERATING ABOUT A MILLION DOLLARS FOR THE CITY. THERE'S ALSO TICKET TAX. THERE'S AN EXTRA GRT ON LARGE GAMES OR PROFESSIONAL EVENTS. IS THAT RIGHT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR DAVIS, THAT'S CORRECT. WE WERE AUTHORIZED BY THE LEGISLATURE TO IMPOSE A SURCHARGE ON TICKETS. SO WE CAN USE ADDITIONAL REVENUE TO PAY FOR THE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THE FACILITY AND MAINTENANCE. >>COUN. DAVIS: MADAM PRESIDENT, MR. RAEL, YOU MENTIONED THE STRATEGY YOU PUT TOGETHER AROUND THIS ENABLED US TO PAY THOSE BONDS OFF EARLY. I THINK THE BONDING PROPOSAL IS A LITTLE SIMILAR TO WHAT WE'RE THINKING ABOUT HERE. IS IT SAFE TO SAY THAT OUR CITY HAS BEEN SUPPORTIVE OF A SPORTS TEAM TO PAY OFF THOSE OBLIGATIONS EVEN WHILE WE'RE PAYING THOSE BONDS? WHAT I'M GETTING AT IS IT'S FUTURE GRT AND WE'RE ASKING THE VOTERS TO DECIDE HOW TO USE FUTURE REVENUE. IS THAT RIGHT? WE HAVE A GOOD HISTORY OF PAYING THAT OFF WITH SPORTS TEAMS? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR DAVIS, THAT'S CORRECT. THANKS TO THE GOOD WORK OF MR. BACA AND HIS FINANCIAL FOLKS AT THE CITY WE HAVE A GREAT RATING. AND THE RATING IS A RESULT OF THE EVALUATION OF THE ALL OF THE DEBT SERVICES ACROSS THE BOARD. WHICH INCLUDES ISOTOPES PARK DEBT SERVICE. AND WE'VE ALWAYS MET OUR OBLIGATIONS AND HAVE DONE REALLY WELL. WE HAVE A GREAT RATING. THAT'S CORRECT. >>COUN. DAVIS: I'LL FINISH BY SAYING, I THINK I'M GOING TO AGREE WITH THE ADMINISTRATION. I THINK IT'S A GOOD DEAL FOR THE CITY. WE OUGHT TO LET VOTERS PARTICIPATE. OUR CITY IS GROWING, WE HAVE OTHER NEEDS AND OTHER CHALLENGES, BUT WHILE WE ADDRESS THOSE THINGS WE ALSO HAVE TO BUILD A STRONGER FUTURE. SOMETHING FOR OUR FAMILIES TO BE EXCITED ABOUT. NOT JUST FOCUS ON ALL THE THINGS WE NEED TO DO BETTER ON LIKE CRIME AND HOMELESSNESS. WE HAVE FULLY FUNDED BOTH IN THE LAST TWO BUDGET CYCLES AND HAVE BEEN ABLE TO MEET THE REREQUEST OF THE DEPARTMENTS. I THINK WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING THAT UNITES AND PROVIDES US SOMETHING FOR THE FUTURE. MADAM PRESIDENT, MY QUESTION IS GOING TO BE, MR. BACA WAS GOING TO HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THE CAPACITY. WE HAVE THAT IN THE EMAIL. MR. BACA, WE CUT YOU OFF. CAN YOU REMIND ME, THIS OBLIGATION OR REQUEST TO VOTERS WOULD ASK IF WE'RE BONDING $50 MILLION IN THE FUTURE. WE HAVE A SIGNIFICANTLY LARGER GRT AMOUNT THAT IS AVAILABLE TO THE CITY. I HAVE ZERO DOUBT THAT POLITICIANS ON THIS CALL WILL SPEND ALL OF THE MONEY IN THE NEXT FEW YEARS. HOW MUCH DO WE HAVE AVAILABLE FOR US, DO WE ANTICIPATE? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR DAVIS, PURELY FROM CAPACITY, WE HAVE A CAPACITY OF ALMOST $1 BILLION. THAT'S BASED ON THE REVENUE PLEDGE WE HAVE, WHICH IS THE STATE SHARED PORTION OF THE THE GROSS RECEIPTS TAX. THAT BRINGS IN ABOUT $212 MILLION. THE CAPACITY IS CALCULATED REVERSE. WE SHOULD ARE AT LEAST 225% OF THE DEBT SERVICE AMOUNT TO CALCULATE THE CAPACITY. BASED ON $212 MILLION, THAT AMOUNT COMES TO $90 MILLION. RIGHT NOW, THE GROSS RECEIPT TAX WHICH ARE PLEDGED HAVE THE DEBT SERVICE OF ABOUT $23 MILLION. IN OTHER WORDS, WE CAN ISSUE BONDS WORTH ALMOST $750 MILLION, IF WE WANT TO. HOWEVER, THAT'S NOT PRACTICAL. WE ARE ALREADY USING THAT REVENUE FOR OR OPERATING COST. WHAT WE ARE PROPOSING HERE IS A LITTLE DIFFERENT. IT IS THE AMOUNT BASED ON THE SHARP DECLINE. BEGINNING NOW, WHICH IS GOING TO BE REDUCED TO ABOUT $8 MILLION FROM ABOUT $30 MILLION THAT WE HAD UNTIL LAST YEAR. THAT DELTA CREATES THIS CAPACITY WITHIN THE CAPACITY WITHOUT INCREASING OUR COMMITMENT TO THE DEBT SERVICE. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU. IF I'M GOING TO BOIL THAT DOWN TO MY COLLEGE MATH CLASS, HIGH SCHOOL MATH CLASS, I HEARD WE'RE EXPECTING $90 MILLION OF EXCESS CAPACITY AND THIS COMMITMENTS $50 MILLION TO ONE PROJECT AND LEAVE THE REVENUE FOR OTHER NEEDS IN THE FUTURE. IS THAT RIGHT? MAYBE I'M WRONG. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR DAVIS, YOUR COLLEGE MATH IS STILL VERY SHARP. >>COUN. DAVIS: I'M GOING TO END ON THAT NOTE, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'LL TAKE THE COMPLIMENT FROM HIM ANY DAY OF THE WEEK. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR DAVIS. WE'LL MOVE TO COUNCILOR SENA AND COUNCILOR GIBSON. >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I THINK WE WERE JUST GETTING TO -- WHEN MR. BACA WAS TALKING ABOUT. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR SENA, I APOLOGIZE TO YOU HAVING TO CUT YOU OFF. I KNEW THIS DISCUSSION WOULD HAPPEN AGAIN. I'M GLAD YOU'RE CONTINUING WITH THE DISCUSSION. >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. MR. BACA, YOU WERE STATING WE HAVE $13 MILLION OF DEBT SERVICES. IF YOU WANT TO CONTINUE, I DON'T THINK WE ACTUALLY HEARD SOME OF THE DETAILS AS WE WERE TALKING WITH COUNCILOR DAVIS. JUST TALKING ABOUT THAT DEBT SERVICE. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SENA, THE DEBT SERVICE AMOUNT UNTIL JULY 1, 2021 WAS $13 MILLION A YEAR. BEGINNING JULY 1, 2022 IT WILL DECLINE TO $8 MILLION. THAT IS BASED ON SOME BONDS WHICH WE HAVE PAID OFF. ON JULY 1 OF 2021. ALSO, HOW THE PREVIOUS BONDS HAVE BEEN STRUCTURED, OUR DEBT SERVICE AMOUNT IS GOING TO DECLINE. THAT DELTA IS WHAT WILL GIVE US UP TO 90-PLUS MILLION AND THE PROPOSAL IS FOR $50 MILLION. I HAVE EXPLAINED THIS IN SEVERAL YEARS, BUT IF THERE'S ANYTHING SPECIFIC ABOUT THIS PLEASE ASK AND I'LL DIVE INTO THE DETAILS. >>COUN. SENA: FOR ME, I KNOW WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS PRIVATELY AND RAN THROUGH IT WITH THE STAFF AS WELL. I WANT TO MAKE SURE IN LAYMAN'S TERMS THAT THE GENERAL PUBLIC UNDERSTANDS WHERE WE ARE GETTING THE FUNDS FROM. THE CONCERN IS THIS IS DIFFERENT FROM THE CIP BOND, I WANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. IT'S SEPARATE. I THINK WE'RE GETTING QUESTIONS ON THAT IN TERMS OF WE WERE TOLD WE HAD A CAPACITY ON CIP AND NOW WE'RE HAVING -- I THINK BONDS ARE BEING USED. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES WE'VE SAID THAT WORD IN THE MEETING. I THINK THE GENERAL TERM OF THE BONDS IS IMPORTANT FOR THE COMMUNITY TO UNDERSTAND. MY NEXT QUESTION, THIS HAS BEEN TALKED ABOUT A MULTI-CULTURAL CENTER. I HAVEN'T GOTTEN THAT, EVEN FROM THE THE STUDY. I'M CURIOUS AS TO HOW THAT IS CONTINUING AS A CONVERSATION. HOW IT WILL BE USED A MULTI-CULTURAL CENTER. I HAVE NOT BEEN CONVINCED. I SEE THIS AS A STADIUM OR EVENT CENTER. POSSIBLY AN EVENT CENTER. WHAT MAKES IT A MULTI-CULTURAL CENTER? >> FIRST AND FOREMOST, OUR PROPOSAL TO VOTERS WILL BE A MULTI-PURPOSE FACILITY. MULTI-PURPOSE MEANING NOT JUST A SOCCER VENUE BUT OTHER THINGS THAT ARE SOCCER ORIENTED OR MAYBE EVEN OUTDOOR CONCERTS. THE OWNERSHIP GROUP OF THE UNITED HAVE TALKED ABOUT A CULTURAL CENTER. THEY HAVE BEEN TALKING ABILITY INVESTORS COMING IN TO BUILD THING WITHIN THE FACILITY OR AROUND THE FACILITY AS AN AN IDEA THEY HAVE BEEN PROMOTING. THOSE IDEAS ARE JUST SIMPLY THAT. THEY'RE IDEAS. I THINK THAT THERE'S SOME OPPORTUNITIES AS THE CONSULTANTS MENTIONED FOR REDEVELOPMENT. IF SOME OF THE IDEAS COME TOGETHER ONCE THE VOTERS MAKE A DECISION ON THIS, WE CAN CERTAINLY SEE FACILITIES THAT LOOK LIKE A, IF YOU WILL, A STADIUM INSIDE AND AROUND THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING PERHAPS SOME PUBLIC AMENITIES, PERHAPS AN MEOW-WOLF TYPE FACILITY. OR OTHER FACILITIES WE CAN BUILD OR CONNECT TO THE RAIL YARDS. BECAUSE THE RAIL YARDS, IF THAT SITE IS SELECTED. THERE'S BEEN CONVERSATIONS ABOUT THAT FROM THE OWNERSHIP. ALL OF THAT, IN MY OPINION, COUNCILOR SENA, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, IS A PRIVATE SECTOR INITIATIVE. THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY A PUBLIC-DRIVEN INITIATIVE. IT GOES TO THE QUESTION THAT COUNCILOR JONES WAS ASKING. WE'RE PUTTING IN $50 MILLION AT THE VOTERS APPROVAL. THAT'S TO BUILD A BASIC STADIUM. IF THE OWNERSHIP GROUP WANTS TO ADD ADDITIONAL AMENITIES AROUND THE CITY, WE'LL CERTAINLY ENGAGE IN LEASES AND THEY PAY AND THEY HAVE THE RISK FOR CONSTRUCTION OF THOSE FACILITIES. >>COUN. SENA: OKAY. THAT'S SOMEWHAT HELPFUL. I THINK I ACTUALLY SHARE SOME RESERVATIONS THAT COUNCILOR JONES STATED AS TO WHAT EXACTLY ARE WE -- IN TERMS OF A LEASE AGREEMENT, IF THERE'S NO LEASE AGREEMENT OR AT LEAST GROUNDS TO STAND ON IN TERMS OF LEVERAGE OR HOLDING OWNERSHIP GROUP THAT YOU STATED ACCOUNTABLE TO SOME OF THIS. IT'S NOT UNCOMMON TO HAVE CERTAIN PARAMETERS. ARE THERE CLAW BACKS? IF THEY DON'T STAY FOR THE LIFETIME OF THE BOND. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SENA, WE CAN CERTAINLY PUT THOSE CLAW-BACKS INTO THE LEASE AGREEMENT AS WE NEGOTIATE. LET ME JUST SAY THIS AS A MATTER OF HISTORICAL PERSPECTIVE. WE HAD THE SAME DISCUSSIONS WHEN WE BUILT ISOTOPES PARK AND REMODELED THE FACILITY. WE HAD A PUBLIC VOTE THAT WENT TO THE VOTERS. THE CITY ERRS ON NOT GETTING AHEAD OF ITSELF IF WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE VOTERS WILL SUPPORT AND TO WHAT LEVEL THEY'LL SUPPORT GIVEN THE CONVERSATIONS WE'RE HAVING TONIGHT. WE HAVE -- IF THE VOTERS APPROVE THIS IN NOVEMBER, WE WILL HAVE AMPLE TIME TO PUT IN THESE REQUIRED, IF YOU WILL, CLAW-BACKS AND POTENTIAL GUARANTEES FOR THE CITY. THOSE CONTRACTS ALL GO TO THE COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. IT WILL BE A LONG-TERM LEASE. THERE WILL BE A LOT OF PUBLIC OVERSIGHT AND DISCUSSION ABOUT THE NATURE OF THE LEASE AND THE ASSOCIATED REVENUES FROM THAT LEASE AND HOW THE CITY WILL PROTECT THE INVESTMENT. AGAIN, WE COULD BE DOING A LOT OF WORK AND A LOT OF CONVERSATIONS AND EVEN COMPLICATE THE DISCUSSION MORE IF WE START TOO EARLY. THE IDEA IS IF THE CITIZENS WANT THIS TO BE DONE, WE'LL HAVE A PUBLIC PROCESS AND THE COUNCIL WILL WEIGH IN AND APPROVE OF ALL OF THE DOCUMENTS BEFORE WE START CONSTRUCTION. >>COUN. SENA: I APPRECIATE THAT, MR. RAEL. IT WAS MENTIONED, SURCHARGES ON TICKETS AND WITH EVEN THE STUDIES RELEASING THAT OUR AVERAGE MEDIAN INCOME IS BELOW AVERAGE BELOW TO OTHER USL CITY GROUPS. THE CLIENT INCOME HOUSEHOLD IS WELL BELOW AVERAGE. GDP IS ALSO BELOW AVERAGE. I FEAR THAT IF A SURCHARGE ON TICKETS IS SOMETHING RELIED UPON, BASIC GRASS IS $20 AND IT GOES IN TIERS, I FEAR THAT IF THERE'S A RELIANCE ON SURCHARGES ON TICKETS A LOT OF FAMILIES WILL BE PRICED OUT TO EVEN ATTEND THESE GAMES. IS THERE AN EVALUATION OF -- AS WE TALK ABOUT HAVING ISOTOPES AS AN EXAMPLE THAT WE SHOULD LOOK TO, WHETHER IT'S REVENUES THAT GAIN FROM CONCESSION OR NAMING RIGHTS OR SUITE ROOMS, I PREFER TO SEE THAT WHATEVER IS MADE FROM THERE PREVENT SURCHARGING ON TICKETS THAT WOULD PRICE OUT MORE FAMILIES FROM ATTENDING THESE GAMES. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SENA, LET ME ASSURE YOU THAT THE SURCHARGE IS AN OPTION WE HAVE. ADDITIONALLY, JUST TO GIVE YOU A BIT OF PERSPECTIVE, WITH ISOTOPES, WHAT WE NEGOTIATED WITH THEM IS A CERTAIN NUMBER OF TICKETS AVAILABLE AT EITHER REDUCED OR FREE FOR FOLKS IN THE COMMUNITIESS THAT WANT TO ATTEND SOME OF THESE GAMES. THE REVENUES PRIMARILY COME FROM THE SUITES. WE HAVE COMPANIES AND BUSINESSES THAT CUFORD TO LEASE THOSE SUITES. WE PUT INTO THE AGREEMENT OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THAT WHERE WE WOULD HAVE X PERCENTAGE OF THE TICKETS MUST BE SOLD AT A PRICE POINT OR GIVEAWAYS TO THE COMMUNITY SO WE CAN MAKE SURE THOSE THAT ARE LESS FORTUNATE GET THE OPPORTUNITY TO ENJOY THE FACILITY AND BE PART OF THE EXPERIENCE. WE HAVE THOSE PROVISIONS AND STRUCTURES WITH THE ISOTOPES AND WE CAN INCLUDE THOSE AS PART OF THE NEGOTIATION MOVING FORWARD. >>COUN. SENA: OKAY. I THINK I STILL HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS, BUT I'M GOING TO DEFER TO OTHER COUNCILORS TO ALLOW FOR THEIR QUESTIONS AND MAYBE MY SIDE QUESTIONS WILL GET ANSWERED TOO. I THINK I STILL HAVE A FEW RESERVATIONS ON THIS AND HAVEN'T QUITE FELT COMFORTABLE THAT -- IT'S LIKE REFINANCING OUR HOUSE TO INVEST IN SOMETHING. I GET WE'RE GOING TO SAY THIS IS SIMPLY TO PUT TO OUR VOTERS, WHICH I KNOW IS IMPORTANT AS WELL. I THINK AT THIS POINT I'LL YIELD TO OTHER COUNCILORS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SENA. I'M GOING TO MOVE TO COUNCILOR GIBSON. COUNCILOR GIBSON. >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I GUESS THE QUESTION I REALLY WANT TO ASK IS THE ADMINISTRATION SEEMS QUITE CONFIDENT IN PUTTING THIS QUESTION. I'M NOT TRYING TO BE SNARKY, I'M JUST STATING THE FACTS. YOU SEEM TO BE CONFIDENT IN PUTTING THIS QUESTION ON THE BALLOT. PRETTY CONFIDENT FOR A GOOD-LEANING ACCEPTANCE BY VOTERS BY A MARGIN. CAN YOU TELL ME, I KNOW YOU'VE DONE POLLING OR SOMEONE HAS DONE POLLING, I DON'T KNOW IF IT WAS UNITED OR THE CITY. I CAN DEFINITELY SEE HOW THE ADMINISTRATION WOULD REALLY LIKE TO GO IN THIS WITH THEIR EYES WIDE OPEN. MR. RAEL, COULD YOU TELL ME IF YOU'VE DONE POLLING, IF NOT WHO DID, AND TELL ME WHAT THE RESULTS WERE? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GIBSON, FIRST LET ME ADDRESS YOUR FIRST AT THIS POINT. LOOK, THE MAYOR AND THE ADMINISTRATION'S PERSPECTIVE IS PRETTY STRAIGHT-FORWARD. WE THINK THIS IS AN EXPENDITURE THAT IS WORTH AND IMPORTANT FOR THE VOTERS AND LET THE CITIZENS WEIGH IN ON THE DECISION OF THIS MAGNITUDE. SIMPLY BECAUSE IT'S LOT OF MONEY. I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT'S OUR MOTIVATION. WE WILL SAY TO YOU THAT WE BELIEVE THAT UNITED HAS DONE A GREAT JOB IN MARKETING AND WHAT THEY'VE CREATED. THEY DESERVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO OUT AND CARRY ON A CAMPAIGN AND TO EDUCATE THE COMMUNITY AND LET THE COMMUNITY MAKE A DECISION. I JUST WANT YOU TO KNOW THAT'S THE REASON WHY THIS IS BEFORE YOU. WE BELIEVE THE CITIZENS HAVE A RIGHT TO MAKE THAT DECISION. TO YOUR OTHER QUESTION, WE DO THE CITIZEN SATISFACTION SURVEY EVERY TWO YEARS TO GET A GAUGE OF WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THE COMMUNITY AND HOW THEY FEEL ABOUT DIFFERENT ISSUES. ON BOTH OCCASIONS WE ASKED THE CITIZENS WHETHER OR NOT THEY WOULD SUPPORT A FACILITY LIKE THIS AND BOTH OCCASIONS THE RESPONSES WERE WELL OVER 60% IN FAVOR OF THE STADIUM FOR UNITED. THAT'S THE EXTENT OF THE POLLING THAT WE'VE DONE. WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT IS PART OF WHAT WE NEED TO BE DOING GOING FORWARD. IF THERE'S A CAMPAIGN LAUNCHED BY THE PROPONENTS OF THIS THEY MAY DO THEIR OWN POLLING. THAT'S THE EXTENT OF THE INFORMATION WE HAVE. >>COUN. GIBSON: WHEN WAS THE LAST TIME THAT QUESTION WENT OUT TO THE PUBLIC? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GIBSON, WE'RE GOING TO LOOK IT UP FOR YOU. IT WAS DONE WITHIN THE LAST YEAR. I'LL GET YOU A DATE BEFORE IT'S ALL SAID AND DONE. IT WAS VERY RECENTLY. >>COUN. GIBSON: THEN, IF THE ADMINISTRATION HASN'T PAID TO GET A POLL DONE, IT'S LIKELY THE UNITED CLUB HAS. I DON'T REALLY FEEL -- I SUPPOSE WE CAN ASK. WE'RE NOT DEALING WITH A -- IT'S INFORMATION THAT IS PAID FOR BY PRIVATE FUNDS. MR. TREVASINI. I'M SORRY IF THIS IS A RUDE QUESTION, I REALLY AM. WHAT IS THE RESULTS OF THE POLLING THAT YOUR CLUB DID? HOW STRONG IS THE SENTIMENT TO THE VOTERS TO ACCEPT THIS QUESTION? >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GIBSON. IT'S NOT RUDE AT ALL. WE'RE HAPPY TO SHARE WHATEVER WE FOUND. THE CITY CONDUCTED THE MOST RECENT POLLING WHICH IS WHAT MR. RAEL MENTIONED AND THE YEAR BEFORE WE WENT OUT AND CONDUCTED POLLING THAT WE PAID FOR PRIVATELY WHICH ALSO SHOWED VERY STRONG SUPPORT ACROSS NUMEROUS DEMOGRAPHICS. 65% TO 80% DEPENDING ON WHICH SUBGROUP YOU'RE LOOKING AT. >>COUN. GIBSON: THIS IS SOMETHING THE CLUB DID OR DID YOU HIRE ONE OF THE PROFESSIONALS? >> YES, MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GIBSON, YES WE DID HIRE SOMEONE. I HOPE -- I CAN'T RECALL THEIR NAME. THEY WERE WELL-ACCOMPLISHED AND GAVE US A BIG BILL. >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR GIBSON, ARE YOU DONE WITH YOUR QUESTION? COUNCILOR JONES AND COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. JUST A FEW MORE QUESTIONS, IF I MAY. PROBABLY MR. RAEL WILL COME ON AGAIN. JUST SO MANY THINGS HERE THAT I'M NOT SURE ABOUT. HERE'S ONE OF THE BIG ONES. FIRST OF ALL, WE DON'T HAVE ANY IDEA WHERE WE WOULD PUT IF WE GET APPROVAL FOR THIS AND ALL THE MONEY, BUT FROM THE AREAS THAT THE ADMINISTRATION HAS BEEN DISCUSSING THERE WILL BE A QUESTION OF THE CAPACITY OF THE STREETS. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH SOME OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS. I THINK THERE'S A FEW LIVING AREAS IN TOWN. WHAT IS THE PROPERTY OF THE STREETS? HAVE WE FACTORED WHAT THE CITY WILL DO FOR STREET AND PARKING? I THINK THERE'S INFRASTRUCTURE THAT WE WOULD BE LOOKING AT THAT WOULD BE PART OF THE STADIUM ITSELF. IS THAT THE CITY'S OBLIGATION TO SEE IT INTO SOME AREAS OF TOWN THAT AREN'T SET UP FOR LARGE CROWDS OF PEOPLE TO COME IN. AND WHAT ARE WE DOING FOR PARKING? ARE WE LOOKING AT -- I KNOW IT'S PREMATURE, BUT IT'S NOT PREMATURE TO ASK, ARE WE LOOKING AT SURFACE PARKING? ARE WE LOOKING AT PERHAPS A PARKING STRUCTURE IN THE FUTURE OR NOW? WHERE ARE THEY GOING TO PARK UNTIL THAT'S DONE? ANOTHER ONE THAT KEEPS POPPING INTO MY MIND. THE EMPLOYEES, WHO ARE THE PEOPLE WHO TAKE CARE OF THE FIELD, WHO WATCH THE PARKING, WHO TAKE CARE OF THE CARS ALL THAT MYRIADS OF EMPLOYEES. ARE THEY EMPLOYEES OF THE TENANTS OR EMPLOYEES OF THE CITY? MANY, MANY QUESTIONS HAVE POPPED INTO MY HEAD WHEN WE TALK ABOUT THIS. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR JONES, I CAN APPRECIATE THAT. THIS IS A BIG ENDEAVOR. I WELCOME YOUR QUESTIONS. LET ME SAY, FIRST AND FOREMOST, THE SITES ARE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM CONSULTANTS. AS I SAID BEFORE WE'LL HAVE A ROBUST CONVERSATION IF THE VOTERS APPROVE THE BONDS AS TO LOCATIONS WHEN THAT HAPPENS. WHICH MEANS THAT IF WE'RE LOOKING AND HAVING A CONVERSATION ABOUT THE SITES THAT ARE PROPOSED IN THE STUDY, WE KNOW THAT IN AN URBAN AREA AS COUNCILOR BENTON POINTED OUT WE HAVE MANY PARKING LOTS THAT ARE VACANT AT NIGHT AND MANY WAYS FOR FOLKS TO WALK OVER TO A STADIUM THAT'S NOT THAT LONG OF A WALK FROM THE DOWNTOWN AREA. WE'VE BEEN TO FACILITY AND OTHER URBAN AREAS WHERE YOU WALK TWO OR THREE BLOCKS TO GET A MAJOR FACILITY LIKE THIS. WE ALSO FEEL CONFIDENT THAT WITH THE USE OF THE RAILRUNNER AND CORRIDOR AND USING THE PARKING LOTS THE RAILRUNNER HAS ALONG THIS REGION THAT THOSE BECOME GREAT PARKING AREAS FOR FOLKS TO USE PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION TO GET TO THE FACILITY AS WELL. AS IT RELATES TO THE ACTUAL INFRASTRUCTURE, THE PUBLIC RIGHT-OF-WAY IS OUR RESPONSIBILITY AS IT IS WITH ANY FACILITY WE BUILD. WHETHER IT'S A COMMUNITY CENTER OR STADIUM. MAKE SURE THE STREETS ARE WELL-LIT AND AMPLE FOR THE ABILITY TO GET IN AND OUT OF THE STADIUM SAFELY. I GO BACK TO MY POINT EARLIER, IT'S A PUBLICLY OWNED FACILITY. IF WE ARE ABLE TO GET THE PRIVATE SECTOR TO HELP BREAK SOME OF THE COSTS, WE'LL MAKE THAT EFFORT AS WELL. THERE'S ADDITIONAL POTENTIAL FOR IMPACTS. THE QUESTION WAS ASKED EARLIER, IF WE DO PRIVATE DEVELOPMENT AROUND THE STADIUM THAT REQUIRES ADDITIONAL INFRASTRUCTURE, THEN THAT BECOMES A PRIVATE, IF YOU WILL OBLIGATION. AND THE PRIVATE SECTOR, AGAIN, WHETHER IT'S THE OWNERSHIP OF THE TEAM OR WHETHER IT'S A THIRD-PARTY WE'LL WORK WITH THOSE AS REQUIRED ONCE WE MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR JONES. >>COUN. JONES: I GUESS IT'S THE SAME ANSWER, WE JUST DON'T KNOW. YOU WANT $50 MILLION BUT YOU JUST DON'T KNOW. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR JONES, COUNCILOR BASSAN AND COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN ASKED YET. AND I HAVE SOME COMMENTS I WANT TO SHARE. ONE, I KNOW MR. RAEL I SPOKE TO YOU EARLIER. PEOPLE KEEP ASKING ABOUT LAND ACQUISITION AND I KNOW WE TALKED IT. I KNOW THE ANSWER, BUT FOR THE SAKE OF THE PUBLIC COMMENTARY WE'VE BEEN RECEIVING. PEOPLE SAY $50 MILLION, THAT'S NOT INCLUDING THE SURROUNDING LAND ACQUISITIONS WE NEED. IF YOU CAN PLEASE EXPLAIN THAT, THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, AS WE TALKED EARLIER, WE BELIEVE THE COST, AGAIN THIS IS REALLY GOES BACK TO THE CONVERSATION OF THE LOCATION, HOWEVER WITH LOCATIONS THAT HAVE BEEN PROPOSED WE HAVE LOOKED AT THE MARKET VALUE OF SOME OF THE LAND AROUND THE AREA. WE WERE FORTUNATE TO GET ALMOST $7 MILLION FROM THE STATE LEGISLATURE FOR THIS EFFORT OVER THE LAST FEW SESSIONS. WE BELIEVE THE COST WOULD BE SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THE $5-7 MILLION RANGE. AND THOSE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE FOR OUR USE. THAT IS WHY THEY WERE NOT INCLUDED AS PART OF THE $50 MILLION PRICE TAG. THE FUNDS ARE AVAILABLE TODAY AS WE MOVE FORWARD. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MR. RAEL. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ANYWHERE FROM $65 MILLION TO $75 MILLION TOTAL. LET'S SAY THAT THIS PASSES COUNCIL AND LET'S SAY THE VOTERS APPROVE THE $50 MILLION FOR THE BUILDING OF A STADIUM, HOW LONG WOULD WE POTENTIALLY SIT ON THE $50 MILLION IF WE WERE STILL WAITING ANY FURTHER FUNDING BEFORE ACTUALLY BUILDING THE STADIUM? LET'S SAY IT TAKES YEARS OR SEVERAL MORE YEARS TO GET THE LAST 20 OR SO MILLION DOLLARS, WHAT THEN? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, IN THE BEST OF ALL WORLDS IF THE CITIZENS GIVE US THE NOD IN NOVEMBER, IT IS OUR INTENT TO PUT TOGETHER THE RFP TO GET THE CONSULTANTS OWN BOARD FOR THE ARCHITECTURE DESIGN. WE HAVE A ROBUST COMMUNITY OUTPUT FOR A SITE. I BELIEVE WE WOULD BE UNDER CONSTRUCTION WITHIN SEVEN TO NINE MONTHS AFTER THE PASSAGE OF THE BOND. THAT IS A VERY AGGRESSIVE TIMELINE. IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE CITIZENS MAKING THE DECISION AND MOVING FORWARD WITH THE SELECTION OF THE SITE. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. I GUESS TO ME, WHAT HAPPENS IF WE GET THE $50 MILLION AND WE DON'T HAVE THE LAST $20 MILLION NEEDED TO BUILD THE PROPERTY. HOW LONG DO WE WAIT IF WE DON'T HAVE THE FULL AMOUNT TO FUND? >> THIS IS ONE OF THE CHICKEN AND EGG DEALS. LET ME SAY THIS, WE KNOW, ALL OF YOU KNOW AS ELECTED OFFICIALS BECAUSE WE BUILD THINGS IN THE CITY, WE NEVER HAVE ALL OF THE MONEY FOR THE BELLS AND WHISTLES AND EVERYTHING WE WANT. WE DON'T HAVE EVERYTHING TO BUILD THE POOL IN YOUR DISTRICT, BUT WE CAN DO SOME WORK. WE'LL BUILD THE FACILITY TO THE AMOUNT OF MONEY WE HAVE IN THE BUDGET. WE'RE ASKING FOR $50 MILLION WE CAN BUILD A BASIC FACILITY FOR $50 MILLION FOR HELP. AND WE ASK ASK THE LEGISLATURE FOR HELP. WE CAN ASK BOND REVENUE FOR THE STADIUM. OUR GOAL IS TO BUILD TO THE BUDGET AND WHATEVER THAT BUDGET IS. >>COUN. BASSAN: I AM NOT REAL EXCITED TO HEAR ON ONE HAND WE WANT TO BUILD A CLASS A STADIUM AND ON THE OTHER HAND WE'RE GOING TO BUILD IT TO THE BUDGET. THERE'S YOUR CHICKEN AND EGG. AND A LITTLE BIT OF LEVITY, MY BED TIME REMINDER JUST WENT OFF ON MY WATCH. THERE'S THAT FOR YOU. I AM A FAN OF UNITED, I'M A FAN OF PETER, I THINK WHAT I'VE HEARD AND EXPERIENCED IT'S ALL REALLY EXCITING AND THRILLING. THIS IS WHERE I GET ON MY SOAPBOX. I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT THAT WE CAN'T SKIP OVER THE PUBLIC COMMENTARY. WE CAN'T SKIP OVER THE FACT THAT I PROMISED MY CONSTITUENCY THAT EVEN IF I PERSONALLY WANT SOMETHING, WHICH I DO, I THINK IT'S A STADIUM WOULD BE REALLY COOL. I THINK MY FAMILY WOULD ENJOY A STADIUM, I THINK THAT IT WOULD BE REALLY GOOD FOR THE CULTURE AND FAMILY RELATIONSHIPS IN ALBUQUERQUE AND POTENTIALLY IN THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO, AND WE NEED THAT. BUT, I PROMISED MY CONSTITUENCY THAT IF THERE'S A DAY WHERE PERHAPS THE MAJORITY OF THEM OUTREACHING TO ME DIDN'T AGREE WITH MY PERSONAL OPINION THAT I WOULD PAY ATTENTION TO THAT. IT'S REALLY HARD FOR ME TO SAY THAT I'M GOING TO IGNORE THAT. I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE SURE TO BE CLEAR THAT I'M WELL-AWARE THAT I'M A SPONSOR ON THIS BILL. IT'S BY REQUEST. I HAVE MY BELIEFS. PERSONALLY, I WILL MAKE SURE TO GO BACK TO SEVERAL THINGS. I KNOW COUNCILOR GIBSON ASKED ABOUT THE SURVEY THAT WAS DONE. IT'S BEEN BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION THAT IF YOU COMPARE THE QUESTIONS ONE ON A 2019 SURVEY AND ONE DONE EARLIER THIS YEAR, THE 2019 SURVEY INCLUDED THE QUESTION ABOUT HOW WOULD YOU FEEL ABOUT A PUBLICLY FINANCED STADIUM. THERE WAS NOT STRONG SUPPORT. THE QUESTION ON THIS SURVEY THIS YEAR SAID HOW WOULD YOU FEEL ABOUT A STADIUM AND WE HAD STRONGER SUPPORT. I THINK THAT IS A KEY INDICATOR OF SOME OF THE STATISTICS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT WHEN WE WANT TO GAUGE HOW THE PUBLIC IS FEELING ABOUT THE PROJECT WE'RE DISCUSSING. I'M A FIRM BELIEVER THAT THE VOTERS SHOULD BE ABLE TO CHOOSE IN MANY, MANY THINGS, BUT I HAVE BEEN MADE CLEAR THAT THEY ELECTED TO SERVE MY DUE DILIGENCE ON THEIR BEHALF, IN MOST REGARDS AS WELL. SOME OF THESE THINGS WE'VE BEEN HEARING ABOUT. I'VE BEEN READING EMAILS, THEY'RE NOT ALL FORM LETTERS. LOT HAVE A FORM LETTERS SUBJECT LINE. YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY'RE UNIQUE. I KNOW THEY'VE STARTED FROM SOMEWHERE IN THE SAME SPOT BUT THEY HAVE BEEN VERY SPECIFIC. UPON READING THEM, I WANT TO MAKE SURE TO POINT OUT THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN ASKING INSTEAD OF SPENDING MONEY ON A STADIUM THEY WANT TO SPEND MONEY ON CRIME. REDUCING AUTO THEFT, AND PERHAPS HOMICIDE. WHICH DURING THIS MEETING THERE WAS ANOTHER ONE THAT OCCURRED EARLIER TONIGHT. WE SHOULD IMPROVE INFRASTRUCTURE STREETS SIDEWALKS. WE SHOULD WORK ON REDUCING DRUG ADDICTION, REDUCE HOMELESSNESS, MAYBE GET SOME REHAB FACILITIES. PERHAPS SOME OR RENTAL ASSISTANCE. CHILDREN AND FAMILY CULTURE IN THIS CITY, WE JUST HAD ONE CHILD KILL ANOTHER CHILD BECAUSE WE'RE FAILING IN MANY, MANY CULTURAL WAYS WHICH SPORTS AND FAMILY ARE WAYS TO ENCOURAGE THAT. BUT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT, WHEN A CITY IS SUFFERING AND OUR BUSINESSES ARE CLOSING, WE CAN'T EVEN HAVE EMPLOYEES HIRED AND WORK IN WHAT WE CURRENTLY HAVE. OUR TRANSIT DEPARTMENT IS SUFFERING BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE TRANSIT DRIVERS. APD IS SUFFERING, LET ALONE THE PRIVATE BUSINESSES WE TALK ABOUT THAT ARE HAVING STRUGGLES. THERE'S WAGE INCREASES THAT ARE NEEDED IN ORDER TO PROPERLY EMPLOY PEOPLE. EVERY PROPERTY OWNER MUST AGREE TO SELL LAND IF IT'S SELECTED ON A CERTAIN SITE OR THIS LAND ACQUISITION CAN'T HAPPEN. THERE'S SO MANY THINGS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. I WANT TO ALSO BRING UP THE FACT THAT WE ALL RECOGNIZE CONSTRUCTION COSTS ARE RISING. HOW MUCH IS IT GOING TO COST TO BUY STEEL? I'M LOOKING AT OUR CIP PROJECTS THAT THE COUNCIL HAS, SOME OF WHICH HAVE BEEN ON HERE FOR A DECADE OR ALMOST A DECADE. THE PROJECT TOTAL $180 MILLION. CURRENTLY, THOSE PROJECTS, 46 OF THEM ON THE LIST, $64 MILLION HAVE BEEN ACCUMULATED AND PEOPLE HAVE TAKEN AND PEOPLE WORKED HARD FOR THROUGH THE LEGISLATURE AND OTHER BONDS. THAT LEAVES US WITH $116 MILLION TO FUND ALL OF THE PROJECTS THAT THIS COUNCIL SAYS IS A PRIORITY FOR THE ENTIRE COMMUNITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. IT'S REALLY HARD TO IGNORE ALL OF THAT WHEN WE CAN GET STUFF DONE FOR EVERYONE SO WE CAN BUILD A STADIUM. I DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT SOUND LIKE IN ANY DISRESPECTING UNITED. I REALLY WANT TO SUPPORT THEM. BUT, I THINK WE CAN FIND A WAY TO SUPPORT UNITED WHILE NOT MAKING FINANCIAL DECISIONS THAT ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE. THIS IS A LOT OF MONEY, I THINK WE NEED TO LOOK AT THE FUTURE AND OUR FAMILIES AND OUR COMMUNITY. I THINK WE NEED TO CONSIDER HOW TO SUPPORT UNITED AND MAKE THINGS WORK. I BELIEVE AND THIS WOULD BE MY FINAL QUESTION TO YOU, IS IT POSSIBLE TO CONSIDER PUTTING THIS ON THE NEXT BALLOT INSTEAD OF THIS ONE? SHOULD THE COUNCIL DECIDE THIS MAY NOT BE THE BEST WAY TO GO IN THIS CLIMATE. >> COUNCILOR BASSAN, THE DIRECT ANSWER TO YOUR QUESTION IS WE CAN ALWAYS PUT THIS ON DIFFERENT BALLOTS. I WOULD JUST SAY TO YOU IS THE GOOD NEWS ABOUT THIS QUESTION AND THE LEGISLATION BEFORE YOU TONIGHT IS THE CITIZENS GET TO MAKE THE DECISION AND THEY ARE THE ONES THAT PAY THE TAXES AND SUPPORT US AS A COMMUNITY. WHAT BETTER WAY TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE COMMUNITY ABOUT ALL OF THE ISSUES YOU JUST RAISED BY GIVING THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO WEIGH IN ON THIS QUESTION AND SAY TO YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN, THANK YOU FOR LETTING US MAKE THE DECISION BECAUSE WE KNOW WHAT IS BEST FOR US BECAUSE WE PAY THE TAXES. I APPRECIATE THE LONG CONVERSATION ABOUT ALL OF THE THINGS WE COULD BE DOING. AND YOU ASK AND BOTH KNOW AND ALL OF US KNOW AS ADULTS KNOW, THERE'S MANY, MANY THINGS WE CAN DO IN ALBUQUERQUE. AND WE ALL WORK EVERY DAY TO TRY TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO LET THE CITIZENS WEIGH IN AND GIVE US THEIR PERSPECTIVE. FOR ALL THE VOICES YOU'VE HEARD THERE'S MANY OTHER VOICES OUT THERE IN THE COMMUNITY, ESPECIALLY IN THE MORE SPANISH AREAS OF THE CITY THAT ARE REALLY LONGING FOR AN OPPORTUNITY TO GO AND SPEND AN EVENING AND FORGET ALL ABOUT THOSE WORRIES AND ENJOY FAMILY TIME LIKE ALL OF US HAVE DONE AT UNITED GAMES AND REALLY MAKE THIS ABOUT BEING UNITED AND HAVING THOSE MOMENTS THAT WE CAN ENJOY EACH OTHER AND BE SAFE. THAT'S MY PERSPECTIVE AS IT RELATES TO YOUR QUESTION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MR. RAEL. I HAVE ONE MORE COMMENT TO THAT. I HOPE THAT PEOPLE -- I'M GOING TO RESERVE MY NEXT THOUGHT BECAUSE IT WAS CRASS. ONE WOULD BE ABLE TO ARGUE THAT THE VOTERS HAVE DECIDED IN ALL OF THE COMMUNICATIONS THAT THEY HAVE PROVIDED TO US. AT LEAST AS FAR AS WHAT I'M HEARING FOR WHAT THEY EXPECT ME TO DO AS THEIR REPRESENTATIVE. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR BASSAN, IS THAT YOUR CLOSING STATEMENT? COUNCILOR BASSAN, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED. YOU'RE ONE OF THE SPONSORS OF THIS BILL, YET YOU'RE SAYING YOU DON'T WANT IT? I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED ABOUT IT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, THIS IS A BILL THAT I SPONSORED BY REQUEST. AGAIN, WHEN I STARTED OUT ON THIS I THOUGHT THIS WAS A FABULOUS IDEA. I STILL PERSONALLY LIKE THIS IDEA. I AM NOT HERE TO MAKE A PERSONAL DECISION ON BEHALF OF MY ENTIRE CONSTITUENCY. I AM HERE TO ANSWER FOR THEM AND WHAT I HAVE HEARD MORE THAN NOT IS THEY ARE NOT IN SUPPORT OF PUTTING THIS ON THE BALLOT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN, FOR CLARIFYING THAT. I'M GOING TO MOVE TO COUNCILOR BENTON AND BACK TO COUNCILOR SENA. COUNCILOR BENTON. COUNCILOR BENTON, YOU'RE MUTED. >>COUN. BENTON: MADAM PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. MY CONNECTION IS UNSTABLE. CAN YOU HEAR ME? >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: MADAM PRESIDENT, I THINK MY CONNECTION IS BREAKING UP. >>COUN. BORREGO: WE CAN HEAR YOU CLEARLY. >>COUN. BENTON: OKAY. I'M GOING TO TURN OFF MY CAMERA. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT DOES ANY GOOD OR NOT. MY SENSE ON THIS DISCUSSION IS CERTAINLY THAT THERE ARE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ASKED, MULTIPLE QUESTIONS THAT HAVE BEEN ASKED TONIGHT. AND LEADING UP TO THIS MEETING. I DO AGREE THAT IT'S INCUMBENT ON THE ADMINISTRATION TO ANSWER THESE QUESTIONS. I WOULD GO SO FAR AS I THINK IT WOULD BE GOOD IF PRIOR TO THE ELECTION IF WE PUT THIS ON THE BALLOT THAT WE ZERO IN ON A SITE AS WELL AS ANSWERING SOME OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT WILL BE ASKED. THIS IS A FOR A BALLOT QUESTION. AS WITH OTHER BALLOT QUESTIONS WE PUT BEFORE THE VOTERS, I DON'T -- IF SOMETHING HAS SOME VALIDITY, I DON'T PROPERT THAT IT SHOULD NOT GO BEFORE THE VOTERS. I THINK THIS HAS VALIDITY. GIVE ME A THUMBS UP IF YOU CAN HEAR WHAT I'M SAYING. THANKS, MADAM PRESIDENT. SO, QUESTIONS DO NEED TO BE ANSWERED. I THINK WITH REGARD TO THE POSSIBLE FUNDING GAPS OVER AND ABOVE $50 MILLION AND PRESENT FUNDS THAT ARE ALREADY AVAILABLE WE HAVE THE STRONG SUPPORT FROM THE LEGISLATIVE DELEGATION. I ANTICIPATE THAT WE'LL CONTINUE TO, ESPECIALLY IF THE VOTERS SUPPORT THE $50 MILLION. I ALSO JUST WANT TO THANK MR. RAEL AND OTHERS FROM THE ADMINISTRATION WHO MET AT LENGTH WITH THE BARELAS COMMUNITY ABOUT THIS PROJECT. I THINK THE BARELAS COMMUNITY IS INTERESTED IN SEEING THIS ON THE BALLOT. THAT TELLS ME A LOT. A LOT OF GOOD OUTREACH HAS BEEN DONE. THAT INDICATES TO ME THAT WE OUGHT TO GIVE THIS A CHANCE AT THE BALLOT. WE ARE INTRODUCING AS A RESULT OF THOSE DISCUSSIONS A COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT. AND ITS COMPANION BILL WILL BE HEARD AND GO THROUGH THE COMMITTEE PROCESS SEPARATE FROM TONIGHT AND WE CREATE A COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT AND COUNCILOR BASSAN HAS BEEN KIND ENOUGH TO CO-SPONSOR SOME LANGUAGE WITHIN THE ELECTION. IF YOU CAN HEAR ME GIVE ME A THUMBS UP. I'M GOING TO TURN OFF MY VIDEO. I KNOW THE CONNECTION IS BAD. >>COUN. BORREGO: WE CAN, COUNCILOR. >>COUN. BENTON: JUST QUICKLY, I HAVE NO INDICATION OF WHETHER I'M BEING HEARD. >>COUN. BORREGO: YOU ARE BEING HEARD COUNCILOR. WE CAN HEAR YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. AGAIN, WITH THE STRONG INTEREST, I'M NOT SAYING ABSOLUTE SUPPORT OF THE BARELAS NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE POTENTIAL FOR THIS SITE TO BE OF BENEFIT TO THE REVITALIZATION OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE RAIL YARD AND DOWNTOWN I SUPPORT PUTTING THIS ON THE BALLOT. IF THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTION, I HAVE AN AMENDMENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR, WE STILL HAVE QUESTIONS AND I STILL HAVE SOME QUESTIONS. WE ARE SUPPOSED TO ADJOURN AT 10:30 COUNCILORS, WE STILL HAVE A NUMBER OF ITEMS. PLAN ON BEING HERE LATER THAN 10:30. I DON'T SEE HOW WE'RE GOING TO GET THROUGH THE REST OF THE AGENDA IN A HALF HOUR IF WE GO TO 10 O'CLOCK ON THIS I'M. WE'LL PROBABLY HAVE TO AMEND OUR RULES TO ALLOW FOR US TO CONTINUE A LITTLE BIT FURTHER INTO THE NIGHT. COUNCILOR BENTON, IS THAT YOUR FINAL CLOSING? >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU BECAUSE YOU HAVE AN AMENDMENT. COUNCILOR SENA. >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT, I SEE COUNCILOR BENTON ON YOUR SCREEN IT SAYS LOW BANDWIDTH. I THINK WE ALL HAVE LOW BANDWIDTH AT THIS POINT. IT WASN'T ANSWERED QUITE YET IN TERMS OF MY QUESTION. IF WE ARE CONTINUING TO USE ISOTOPES AS AN EXAMPLE, I'M REALLY GRATEFUL THAT MR. RAEL WAS PART OF THAT AND CAN SHARE EXPERTISE, HOW MUCH REVENUE DOES THE TEAM MAKE AND CONTRIBUTED TO PAYING OFF SOME OF THE EXPENSES OR EVEN SOME OF THE BONDS OR RELATIVELY -- WHAT WAS THEIR SKIN IN THE GAME? HOW MUCH CAN WE ANTICIPATE FOR THIS STADIUM? HOW MUCH DOES THE OWNERSHIP HAVE IN THE GAME ON THIS? >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR SENA, BEFORE YOU GO TO MR. RAEL. THE LITTLE STUDY THAT MY POLICY ANALYST DID WHICH I SENT TO YOU ALL, ON THE LAST PAGE, IT DISCUSSES THE ISOTOPES STADIUM. ACTUALLY, GOING THROUGH MY GARAGE I FOUND A LITTLE MEMORIAL CARD THAT HAD ALL OF THE INFORMATION INCLUDING FINANCING. IF YOU LOOK AT THE EMAIL THAT I SENT YOU ALL, AT THE VERY LAST PAGE YOU WILL FIND THE FINANCING THAT WAS PLACED. THE CITY BOND ISSUE FOR THAT PARTICULAR WAS $25 MILLION. BUT YOU HAVE TO REALIZE WHEN THAT BUILT. IT WAS 2002. I'M SORRY. IF YOU LOOK AT THAT LAST PAGE YOU'LL SEE SOME INFORMATION IN THERE. HOW MANY SEATS, ET CETERA. >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. AND THANK YOU TO -- I WANTED TO BE SURE THAT THE PUBLIC KNOWS TOO SINCE I'M SURE THEY'RE NOT SEEING THIS STUDY BEING RELEASED OR THE INFORMATION YOU'RE SENDING. I JUST WANT IT TO BE CLEAR SO THAT WE ALL HAVE AN UNDERSTANDING GOING INTO THIS. HOW MUCH IS BEING CONTRIBUTED AND WHAT WAS MADE OFF OF THE CONCESSIONS AND HOW MUCH SKIN IN THE GAME ISOTOPES HAD IN PAYING OFF SOME OF THE EXPENSES AND HOW MUCH WE ANTICIPATE FOR THIS NEW STADIUM. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SENA, LET ME GIVE YOU A BIT OF THE HISTORY WITH ISOTOPES IN TERMS OF HOW THAT DEAL WAS STRUCTURED. THIS WAS BACK IN 2001 WHEN WE HAD A PUBLIC VOTE. IT WAS MAY OF 2001 BECAUSE WE WERE UNDER AN AGREEMENT WITH THE TEAM AFTER WE STRUCK AN AGREEMENT IT HAD TO BE BUILT WITHIN NINE MONTHS. IN MAY OF 2001 THE CITIZENS VOTED ON A BOND ISSUE TO ISSUE UP TO $10 MILLION OF BONDS. THESE WERE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS WHICH ARE VERY DIFFERENT THAN THE ONES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY. ALL OF THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS MUST GO TO THE VOTERS. ALTHOUGH WE'RE ASKING THE VOTERS TO MAKE THIS DECISION. THEY DON'T NECESSARILY ALWAYS GO TO THE VOTERS. HAVING SAID THAT, THE OTHER $15 MILLION FOR THE FACILITY WAS A COMBINATION OF THE PROCEEDS AND GOODS AND SERVICES SOLD AT THE PARK AND ALL OF THE CONCESSIONS AND THE BASEBALL CAPS THAT SOLD THERE. PLUS, A BASE RENT OF $700,000 A YEAR. THE CITY AND THE TEAM AGREED THAT WHENEVER THEIR REVENUES EXCEEDED A MILLION DOLLARS FROM GOODS AND SERVICES IN A GIVEN YEAR THE CITY WOULD BENEFIT ON A 50/50 SPLIT ON ANYTHING ABOVE THAT ON THE GOODS AND SERVICES SOLD IN THE FACILITY. KEEP IN MIND THERE'S LOTS OF REVENUE CENTERS AT ISO TOPES PARK. FOR EXAMPLE YOU HAVE CONCESSIONS, YOU HAVE THE SUITES, YOU ALSO HAVE THE PARTY AREAS, YOU ALL OF THE AREAS IN THE BACK OF THE FIELD FOR KIDS TO PLAY ON. ALL THESE ARE REVENUE CENTERS THAT ARE PART OF THE ENTIRE PACKAGE. BUT, AT THAT POINT, IT WAS ABOUT ENSURING WE WERE ABLE TO GET ENOUGH REVENUES TO BOND AGAINST THE $700,000 FOR SURE BECAUSE THAT WAS A FLAT FEE THAT WAS GOING TO BE PAID EVERY YEAR. AND ANYTHING ABOVE AND BEYOND THAT WE WERE ABLE TO USE BONDS AND PUT INTO A FUND A CAPITAL FUND. A PORTION OF THE MONEY IF THERE WAS ISSUED ASSOCIATED WITH LIGHTING OR REPLACING SEATS SO THE STADIUM CONTINUES TO BE AT A VERY HIGH LEVEL IN TERMS OF THE APPEARANCE AND FUNCTIONALITY FOR THE TEAM. IT WAS A COMBINATION OF REVENUE BONDS AND GEOBONDS THAT HELPED FINANCE THAT. AS IT RELATES TO WHAT THE TEAM MAKES ON A YEARLY BASIS, I DON'T HAVE THE NUMBERS IN FRONT OF ME. THE IMPORTANT PART IS AS A RESULT OF THE AGREEMENT WE'RE ABLE TO PAY THOSE BONDS OFF EARLY BECAUSE THE REVENUES WERE MUCH MORE THAN WE HAD ANTICIPATED. AND I'LL ADD THE GOES BACK TO THE QUALITY OF THE PRODUCT THAT'S THERE. IF YOU WILL, THE FIRST COUPLE YEARS THE ISOTOPES STARTED THEY WERE AFFILIATED WITH THE FLORIDA MARLINS, THEY WON THE WORLD SERIES THAT YEAR. IT ALL CAME TOGETHER IN AN INTERESTING WAY WHERE THE TEAM WAS POPULAR IN THE FIRST FIVE OR SIX YEARS AND IT'S BEEN THERE FOR YEARS NOW. >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU FOR THAT, MR. RAEL. I THINK THAT CLEARS UP SOME BUT NOT ALL ALL OF MY RESERVATIONS. I THINK THAT JUST HAVING SOME OF THE UNDERSTANDING I GUESS PROJECTING OF WHAT WE CAN ANTICIPATE. I WANT THIS TO BE ON RECORD, FOR MY UNDERSTANDING IT WAS 10% OF CONCESSIONS AND WE CAN NEGOTIATE ADDITIONAL FUNDS WHEN IT COMES TO THE AGREEMENT, BUT FOR ME, WE'RE GOING THROUGH AND SAY VOTERS DO APPROVE THIS TO SAY THAT $50 MILLION OR MORE ON TOP OF LEGISLATIVE FUNDS IS GOING TO GO TO THE SPECIFIC USE. WHAT LEVERAGE CAN WE ACTUALLY PROVIDE TO SAY LET'S WANT A WOMEN'S TEAM IN NINE MONTHS OR HOWEVER LONG AFTER THE STADIUM IS APPROVED, WHAT KIND OF STANDING DO WE HAVE WHEN THIS IS REALLY ALREADY GIVEN IF THIS IS APPROVED AND VOTERS ALSO APPROVE THIS? I WANT TO BE SURE IT'S JUST OUT THERE THAT WE'RE HAVING THESE DISCUSSIONS AND HOLDING ALL OF US ACCOUNTABLE SHOULD IT GO THROUGH. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SENA, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I WANT TO REITERATE WHAT I SAID EARLIER, OUR LEVERAGE IS WE HAVE ALL OF THE LEVERAGE IN THE CONVERSATION. I'LL SAY THAT. FIRST AND FOREMOST IT'S CITY AND PUBLIC DOLLARS GOING INTO THE FACILITY. NUMBER ONE. NUMBER TWO, ANY CONTRACT NEGOTIATED WITH ANY USER IN THE FACILITY HAS TO GO TO THE COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. IT MEANS WE CAN NEGOTIATE A CONTRACT IF THIS CONTRACT DOES NOT HAVE EVERYTHING WE WANT IN IT OR WITHIN REASON BECAUSE WE ALSO HAVE TO REALIZE THIS IS ALSO A BUSINESS PROPOSITION. WE WANT THE TEAM TO BE SUCCESSFUL. FROM MY PERSPECTIVE TO THE PUBLIC'S INTEREST AND THE PUBLIC'S PURSE IS BEING MANAGED VERY WELL BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE ALL IN PUBLIC AND A CONVERSATION LIKE THIS IN A YEAR SHOULD WE BE SUCCESSFUL OR LESS, LUKING AT A CONTRACT IF WE HAVE ENOUGH FALL BACK FOR THE AGREEMENT. ARE THERE GUARANTEES ON PAYMENT? DID WE NEGOTIATE THE RIGHT RENT FOR A BASE RENT? DID WE NEGOTIATE ENOUGH OUT OF THE CONCESSION REVENUES? ARE THEY PUTTING ENOUGH FUNDS INTO THE MAINTENANCE OF THE FACILITY? ARE THEY GOING TO PROVIDE OPPORTUNITIES FOR FAMILIES AND LOW INCOME CHILDREN TO ENJOY THE FACILITIES AT A DISCOUNTED RATE. ALL OF THOSE THINGS ARE PART OF THE CONVERSATION THAT ARE VERY PUBLIC AND VERY MUCH IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL FOR APPROVAL. JUST LIKE ISOTOPES AGREEMENT WAS. I WOULD JUST SAY TO YOU, AND TO THE FOLKS LISTENING, JUST BECAUSE THE VOTERS MADE THE DECISION IF THEY APPROVE IT, WE HAVE MUCH MORE TO DO AS IT RELATES TO GETTING THIS DEAL FINALIZED BEFORE WE BEGIN TO DEVELOP CONSTRUCTION. >>COUN. SENA: I APPRECIATE THAT, MR. RAEL. I KNOW WE'RE GETTING DOWN TO THE WIRE. I JUST WANTED TO SHARE THAT I DO HAVE A LOT OF MY OWN RESERVATIONS ABOUT THIS. AND THINGS THAT I CONSTANTLY THINK ABOUT IN TERMS OF HOW WE INVEST OUR MONEY IS SO IMPORTANT. WHAT IS OUR PRIORITIES? I DO AGREE THERE ARE SO ISSUES ATHAND THAT WE CAN BE ADDRESSING. STANDING IN THE EVICTION PREVENTION LINE AND ROADRUNNER FOOD BANK AND REACHING CONSTITUENTS THAT ARE FACING EVICTIONS AND OTHER ISSUES. JUST THE NEED AND DESIRE FOR MORE MENTAL AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH ISSUES AND SO MANY PRESSING THINGS WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING. I WILL SAY I HAVE LOST A LOT OF SLEEP ABOUT THIS VERY LEGISLATION. HOWEVER, I ALSO DO THINK THAT WE HAVEN'T EXACTLY HEARD FROM A LOT OF CONSTITUENTS. I HAVE NOT -- AS MUCH AS WRITTEN COMMENTS AND PUBLIC COMMENT HAVE BEEN DONE, I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S NECESSARILY ENOUGH TO CAPTURE WHAT OUR COMMUNITY REALLY FEELS AND BELIEVES WE SHOULD DO FOR ALBUQUERQUE. I THINK I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. I WILL THINK ON IT MORE. I KNOW WE HAVE A LONG MEETING. I THINK IT'S JUST SO IMPORTANT AS WE'RE MAKING THESE DISCUSSIONS TO LAYOFF ALL OF THE -- IF THE OPPORTUNITY IS THERE TO GET MORE INPUT AND HEAR FROM COMMUNITY AS TO HOW THEY FEEL, IT HAS BEEN A MIXED BAG IN TERMS OF RECEPTION OF COMMENTS FROM CONSTITUENTS IN THE DISTRICT. IT'S TOUGH TO CALL. I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SENA. I SEE COUNCILOR JONES HAS HER HAND RAISED. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'LL BE VERY QUICK ABOUT THIS. I THINK MOST OF US ARE VERY MUCH IN FAVOR OF A STADIUM. BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THAT A FEW OF US ARE VERY MUCH OPPOSED TO HAVING IT BACKDOORED AT THE LAST MOMENT WITH NO DISCUSSION, NO IDEA WITH WHAT IS REALLY HAPPENING, WHAT THE DEAL IS. IF WE'RE CUTTING A $50 MILLION DEAL WE SHOULD GET A CHANCE TO LOOK AT IT. MR. RAEL, YOU DID A GREAT JOB OF ARGUING THE CASE AND YOU MADE GOOD POINTS. I STILL GO BACK TO WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH INFORMATION FOR ME TO VOTE FOR THIS. I MIGHT IN 30 DAYS IF I HAVE MORE INFORMATION AND I HAD SOMETHING TO BACK IT UP. I THINK THE ISOTOPES ARE A GREAT ASSET TO THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE, AND I HOPE WE CAN BUILD A STADIUM FOR THEM. RIGHT NOW, THE DEAL IN FRONT OF US IS NOT THE RIGHT DEAL. THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT, FOR LETING ME SPEAK. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. I'M GOING TO ASK A FEW QUESTIONS MYSELF THAT I'M UNCLEAR ABOUT. THE FIRST QUESTION, I'D LIKE TO GO BACK TO MR. BACA. I KNOW YOU AND I HAD A DISCUSSION THIS AFTERNOON BEFORE COUNCIL. I HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT BONDS AND THE CAPACITY. YOU CLARIFIED TO ME THAT WE ARE BASICALLY INVESTING OUR DEBT SERVICE INTO THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. IF IT MOVES FORWARD. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAD WAS WITH REGARD TO THAT INVESTMENT, THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE HAS A NUMBER OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF BONDS. CAN YOU JUST EXPLAIN WHAT THOSE BONDS ARE? AND WHAT PARTICULAR BOND TYPE WE'RE USING THIS FOR THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT IF IT IS APPROVED BY THE VOTERS. CAN YOU JUST CLARIFY THAT FOR ME AGAIN? >> SORRY, WE WERE ON MUTE. I'LL BE HAPPY TO EXPLAIN DIFFERENT TYPES OF BONDS. COUNCILOR SENA MENTIONED THAT THE CIP PROCESS. THOSE ARE THE GENERAL OBLIGATION BONDS. THEY ARE BASED ON PROPERTY TAX REVENUE. AND IT HAS A PROCESS WHICH IS PRETTY MUCH IN PLACE. WE GO THROUGH THE CYCLE OF PROPOSING THE PROJECTS THROUGH THE COUNCIL AND THE HEARINGS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. THOSE BONDS ARE PAID FROM THE PROPERTY TAX REVENUE. THE OTHER TYPES OF BONDS ARE GROSS RECEIPTS TAX, LODGER'S TAX BONDS. AND THOSE BONDS ARE SECURED BY OUR PLEDGE OF THE REVENUE STREAM THAT WE RECEIVE FROM THE STATE WHICH IS THE STATE SHARED GROSS RECEIPTS TAX, WHICH IS 1.225% OF THE SALES. WITHIN THAT CATEGORY, EVEN THOUGH THE LARGEST TAX BONDS ARE PLEDGED BY GROSS RECEIPTS TAX, THEY'RE ACTUALLY PAID OFF FROM LODGER'S TAX REVENUE. THAT LEAVES THE PURELY GROSS RECEIPTS TAX BOND, WHICH WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE, AND TO SIMPLIFY IT FURTHER, LET'S JUST TAKE AN EXAMPLE OF AN HOME MORTGAGE. LET'S SAY YOU HAVE A HOME MORTGAGE PAYMENT OF $1300 A MONTH. IT CONSISTS OF SEVERAL MORTGAGES. IT'S FIRST MORTGAGE, SECOND MORTGAGE, THIRD MORTGAGE. IN THIS CASE, WE HAVE SEVERAL DIFFERENT BONDS WE HAVE ISSUED IN THE PAST. AND THE TOTALS ARE JUST FOR EXAMPLES, $1300 A MONTH. WE HAVE PAID OFF A COUPLE OF MORTGAGES. AND OUR PAYMENT NOW IS INSTEAD OF $1300 IT WILL BE $800. WE HELD THE DIFFERENCE OF $500 A MONTH. AND THE CALCULATION IS IF WE HAD TO TAKE ANOTHER MORTGAGE AND WE WANT TO PAY NO MORE THAN $500 A MONTH, HOW MUCH OF THAT $500 WILL RAISE? AND IF WE APPLY THAT TO THIS SCENARIO, IT WOULD RAISE ROUGHLY SPEAKING, $92 MILLION. WHAT WE'RE SAYING IS THAT WITHOUT COMMITTING OURSELVES TO HIRE DEBT SERVICE PAYMENT, WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO SELL BONDS WORTH $92 MILLION. AND WE ARE PROPOSING THE $50 MILLION BOND CAN WE USED FOR THE STADIUM. WORST CASE SCENARIO. LET'S SAY WE HAVE TO EAT THE COST. OUR COMMITMENT IS STILL NOT GOING TO BE MORE THAN WHAT WE ALREADY ARE USED TO WHICH IS $1300 A MONTH IN THE EXAMPLE I GAVE YOU. THIS IS A GROSS RECEIPTS TAX BOND. THE STATE-SHARED REVENUE. AND THE OTHER BONDS THAT GOES THROUGH THE CIP PROCESS. THEY'RE BASED ON THE PROPERTIES. I HOPE THAT CLARIFIES. >>COUN. BORREGO: JUST FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS, I HAVE A COUPLE OF FOLLOW-UP QUESTIONS REGARDING THE BONDS. YOU'RE TELLING ME, FIRST OF ALL, THAT THERE'S DIFFERENT TYPES OF BONDS THAT WE USE FOR DIFFERENT TYPES OF USES IN THE CITY. IS THAT NOT CORRECT? AND YOU'RE TELLING ME THAT THE DEBT SERVICE DOES NOT EXCEED WHAT WE HAVE ALREADY COMMITMENTED FOR THIS PARTICULAR TYPE OF BOND IF WE WERE TO ALLOW OR THE PUBLIC WERE TO ALLOW, LET ME REPHRASE THAT, THIS BOND QUESTION. YOU'RE BASICALLY TELLING ME THAT WE ARE NOT EXCEEDING THE LIMITATION, THAT WE'VE ALREADY SET FOR OURSELVES? IS THAT CORRECT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, YES YOU'RE CORRECT. AS FAR AS THE BOND CAPACITY, WE'RE WITHIN OUR LEGAL LIMIT AS TO EVEN IF WE ISSUE THIS BOND WE'LL ME WAY BELOW. >>COUN. BORREGO: ARE THESE THE BONDS THE TYPE OF BONDS WE'D BE ISSUING IF WE ISSUED BONDS FOR A HOMELESS SHELTER? OR A NEW HOUSING PROJECT? THESE ARE DIFFERENT TYPE OF BONDS THAN THAT PARTICULAR COMMITMENT, IS THAT CORRECT? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, IT'S SUBJECTIVE. IT DEPENDS. THE BOND STRUCTURE IS SAYING HOWEVER THE ASSET THAT WE ARE PROPOSING TO BUILD OUT OF THIS BOND IS SORT OF INCOME GENERATING KIND OF PROPERTY BECAUSE IT WOULD GENERATE RENT. AS OPPOSED TO HOMELESS SHELTER, NOT ONLY WOULD IT NOT GENERATE REVENUE, WE'LL HAVE TO COMMITMENT TO OPERATIONAL COST. OUR INTENTION TO HAVE SOME SORT OF AN AGREEMENT WHERE THE OPERATIONAL COST AND MAINTENANCE WILL BE COVERED BY THE RENT. AND THERE WILL BE ADDITIONAL INCOME FROM THERE THAT WILL HELP US PAY THE BONDS, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T NEED THE ADDITIONAL INCOME, WE DO HAVE DEBT SERVICE COMMITMENT WHICH WILL PAY FOR THE BOND. THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT THIS IS SORT OF AN INCOME GENERAING ASSET VERSUS OTHER EXAMPLES YOU GAVE US WHICH ARE NOT. THEY ACTUALLY REQUIRE ADDITIONAL COMMITMENT ON THE OPERATING COST. >>COUN. BORREGO: I SEE. IF THE PUBLIC WERE TO ALLOW THIS PARTICULAR INVESTMENT, ARE WE GOING TO BE EFFECTING OUR RATING? >> VERY GOOD QUESTION, MADAM PRESIDENT. NO. THAT'S THE BEAUTY OF IT. THE RATING WILL -- THE RATERS REVIEW BOND CAPACITY, BUT THEY REVIEW ARE WE COMMITTING OURSELVES TO MORE DEBT SERVICE AMOUNT THAN WE'RE USED TO. IN THIS CASE, AS I GIVE YOU THE EXAMPLE BEFORE, THE ACTUAL DEBT SERVICE AMOUNT FOR THE GROSS RECEIPT TAX IS $13 MILLION. IT IS GOING TO GO DOWN TO $8 MILLION. LET'S SAY WE ISSUE $15 MILLION BONDS, THEN THE DEBT SERVICE GOES UP TO $11.2 MILLION. STILL BELOW $13 MILLION. IT IS NOT GOING TO IMPACT THE BOND RATING. >>COUN. BORREGO: WE'RE WITHIN OUR CAPACITY IF THE PUBLIC WERE TO APPROVE THIS PARTICULAR BOND IS WHAT YOU'RE SAYING? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, YES. IF WE ISSUE THE BOND, OUR DEBT SERVICE AMOUNT WILL ACTUALLY STILL NOT BE THE LEVEL IT WAS LAST YEAR OR THE YEAR BEFORE. >>COUN. BORREGO: THIS MAY NOT BE A QUESTION FOR YOU, WHAT IS THE LIFE OF THIS BOND? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, THE LIFE OF THE BOND WILL BE $20 MILLION WHICH IS NORMAL FOR THIS KIND OF ASSET. >>COUN. BORREGO: THAT WOULD BE THE DEVELOPER WOULD BE ON THE HOOK FOR? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, I'LL HAVE MR. RAEL ANSWER THAT. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, AS WE GET INTO NEGOTIATIONS THAT PIECE OF THE NEGOTIATIONS WOULD BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION WITH THE DEVELOPER AS WE ENTER INTO OUR LEASE AGREEMENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: MR. RAEL, WOULD YOU CONSIDER THIS, EVEN THOUGH WE DON'T HAVE FULL INFORMATION AT THIS POINT LIKE LOCATION AND THAT SORT OF THING, WOULD YOU CONSIDER THIS EQUIVALENT TO A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, YES I CONSIDER THIS A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP IN THAT THE ENTITY IS PAYING A RENT TO USE A PUBLIC FACILITY. AND WITH USE OF THAT RENT AND RENTAL PAYMENT WILL HELP NOT ONLY PAY FOR THE COST OF OPERATING THE FACILITY BUT POTENTIALLY HELPING WITH THE BOND FOR THE LIFE OF THE BOND. >>COUN. BORREGO: MR. RAEL, I WAS REVIEWING THE SUMMARY THAT MY STAFF DID FOR ME ON SEVERAL -- AND I SENT IT TO YOU. DENVER METRO, THEY HAVE DICK'S SPORTING GOODS STADIUM. IT'S $64.5 MILLION WHICH THE VOTERS AGREED TO. AND SANDY, UTAH, THE COST OF A $110 MILLION STADIUM. YOU CAN'T COMPARE APPLES TO ORANGES BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT OUR DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENTS WOULD LOOK LIKE. IF YOU SAY THIS IS A PUBLIC-PRIVATE PARTNERSHIP, WHAT EXACTLY IS THE PRIVATE SIDE PUTTING INTO THIS? IF THE PUBLIC IS PUTTING IN THE COST OF THE BOND AND THE GUARANTEE OF THE BOND, WHAT IS THE PRIVATE PORTION OF THIS DEAL? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, THE PUBLIC SIDE IS THAT WE HAVE THE CITY PUTTING IN THE FACILITY. THE PRIVATE SIDE IS THE USE OF THE FACILITY AND THE RENTAL PAYMENT BACKS TO THE CITY FOR THE USE OF THE FACILITY SO THAT THE FACILITY IS BEING PAID FOR AND MAINTAINED BY THE PRIVATE SECTOR AND THE PROCEEDS FROM THE RENTAL PAYMENTS WILL HELP PAY FOR A PORTION OF THE BOND, NOT ALL OF THE BOND THROUGH THE LIFE OF THE BOND. >>COUN. BORREGO: MY LAST QUESTION, MR. RAEL. I'M GLAD THAT YOU'RE ON THE HOOK RIGHT NOW, IS WITH REGARD TO THE LANGUAGE ON THE BALLOT. THE EXACT LANGUAGE. I WANT TO BE VERY CLEAR ABOUT THIS. THAT IS WHAT IS BEING APPROVED TONIGHT IS THE LANGUAGE THAT GOES ON THE BALLOT. COULD YOU JUST REITERATE THAT LANGUAGE FOR US PLEASE? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, LET ME PULL UP THE BILL. I DON'T HAVE IT IN FRONT OF ME. MADAM PRESIDENT, THE LANGUAGE ON THE BALLOT READS. SHALL THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE ACQUIRE PROPERTY FOR AND TO DESIGN DEVELOP ERECT CONSTRUCT, AND OTHERWISE IMPROVE A PUBLIC STADIUM FOR MULTI-PURPOSE USE INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO PROFESSIONAL SOCCER EVENTS TO BE FINANCED BY UP TO $50 MILLION IN ITS GROSS RECEIPTS TAX REVENUE BOND. THAT IS THE QUESTION BEFORE THE VOTERS. >>COUN. BORREGO: SO THE LANGUAGE DOES NOT DISCUSS LOCATION, PER SE. IT DOES NOT DISCUSS A DEVELOPMENT AGREEMENT SPECIFIC TO THIS DEVELOPMENT. IT JUST SAYS IF THE VOTERS AGREE TO THIS LANGUAGE, THEN THIS IS WHAT THEY'RE APPROVING. THEY'RE APPROVING THE USE OF THE BOND TO CONSTRUCT, ACQUIRE LAND, DESIGN ET CETERA. THEY'RE NOT SAYING WHERE IT'S GOING TO BE LOCATED, THEY'RE NOT SAYING WHO IS GOING TO BUILD IT. OTHER THAN WE HAVE UNITED ON THE HOOK, WE HOPE. I GUESS. THEY'RE NOT SAYING HOW MANY JOBS. THEY'RE NOT SAYING WHO WE'RE GOING TO HIRE TO CONSTRUCT IT OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT. RIGHT? IT'S JUST SHOULD THE CITY HAVE THIS AVAILABLE AND FIND THE LAND THEN THEY SHOULD LOOK AT BUILDING A STADIUM? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, YES. YOUR PERSPECTIVE IS CORRECT. THE CITIZENS ARE GOING TO BE TELLING US WHETHER OR NOT WE CAN USE $50 MILLION TO DESIGN, CONSTRUCT, ERECT A PUBLIC STADIUM. AND THAT'S ALL WHAT THEY'RE GIVING US DIRECTION. IF THEY APPROVE THAT, THEN AS ELECTED OFFICIALS, YOU ALL AND THE MAYOR WILL APPROVE WHERE THAT GOES THROUGH A PUBLIC PROCESS, WHAT THAT CONTRACT LOOKS LIKE THROUGH A PUBLIC PROCESS, AND THEN MOVE FORWARD WITH THE APPROPRIATE DECISIONS THAT NEED TO BE MADE TO BUILD THE FACILITY. THAT'S CORRECT. >>COUN. BORREGO: OKAY. THANK YOU, MR. RAEL. THAT ANSWERED SOME OF MY QUESTIONS. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FROM THE COUNCIL? COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. BENTON: YES, I'LL TRY MY AUDIO AT LEAST AGAIN, MADAM PRESIDENT. I'D LIKE TO MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. THIS IS SPONSORED BY MYSELF AND COUNCILOR BASSAN. ON PAGE THREE AFTER LINE 27 INSERT THE FOLLOWING SECTION, TEN. SHOULD THE BOND ELECTION RECEIVE APPROVAL OF THE MAJORITY CAST ON THE ELECTION, THE CITY IS COMMITMENTED TO THE DEVELOPMENT OF A COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT RELATED TO THE PROJECT. NUMBER THE SECTIONS ACCORDINGLY. THAT'S THE BENEFITS AGREEMENT THAT WE TALKED ABOUT THAT HAS BEEN PROPOSED BY SOME OF THE COMMUNITY ADVOCATES IN BARELAS AND THEIR MEETING AT THE SOUTH BROADWAY NEIGHBORHOOD AND AGREED IN PRINCIPLE BY THE CITY. DO . >>COUN. BORREGO: WITH THAT, ANY QUESTIONS? WE'LL MOVE TO MS. ORTEGA FOR THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. ANY OTHER FLOOR AMENDMENTS, COUNCILORS? >>COUN. BENTON: I DO NOT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THAT CONCLUDES AMENDMENTS. COUNCILOR PEÑA, I SEE YOUR HAND UP. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM CHAIR. I HAVE FLOOR AMENDMENT TWO. THAT IS ON PAGE FOUR LINE SEVEN, INSORT THE FOLLOWING. THE CITY ANTICIPATES THAT IT ADDS A REFINANCES OUTSTANDING BY THE STATE SHARED GROSS RECEIPTS TACK REVENUE. IT WILL REALIZE THE YEAR OVER YEAR SAVINGS IN ITS ANNUAL DEBT SERVICE OBLIGATION WHICH WILL FREE FUNDS TO APPLY TOWARD BONDS IN THE CAPITAL PROJECTS WITH NO NET IMPACT ON THE CURRENT SERVICE OBLIGATION. IT'S INTENT OF THE CITY TO UTILIZE SOME OF THE CAPACITY FOR FUNDING THE DEVELOPMENT AND CONSTRUCTION OF NEW USE FIELDS WEST OF THE RIVER. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR, I'LL SECOND THAT. COUNCILORS, DO YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I SEE A QUESTION FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I SPOKEN WITH COUNCILOR PEÑA ABOUT THIS EARLIER. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT I WAS FAIR AND SPOKE MY MIND THAT EVERYONE ELSE WOULD KNOW. I DO SUPPORT THE USE AND SOCCER STADIUMS ON THE WEST SIDE. IF LIKE IF WE'RE GOING TO MAKE A RESOLUTION TO DOCUMENT THIS WE SHOULD MAKE RESOLUTIONS DOCUMENTING ALL OF THE THINGS WE SUPPORT IN OUR OWN DISTRICTS. I SAID THAT ALTHOUGH I SUPPORT THAT AND WILLING TO HELP FIND FUNDING, I'M NOT IN FAVOR OF THE RESOLUTION. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BASSAN. COUNCILOR GIBSON. >>COUN. GIBSON: I RETRACT THAT. NEVER MIND. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GIBSON. ANY OTHER COMMENTS? IF NOT, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. MS. ORTEGA, TAKE THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: NO. >>COUN. BENTON: NO. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: NO. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: NO. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS, THAT MOTION PASSES ON A 5-4 VOTE. ANY OTHERS? THAT'S IT. OKAY, COUNCILORS, WE'LL MOVE BACK TO THE ORIGINAL AMENDMENT. COUNCILOR BENTON, AND COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: I'M GOING TO LET COUNCILOR BENTON DO THE CLOSE. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR BENTON, YOU MAY HAVE TO REITERATE YOUR VOTE. THIS WAS AMENDED. NEVER MIND, COUNCILOR. SORRY. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. YOU KNOW, IT'S LATE. THE DECISION ON THIS HAS TO OCCUR TONIGHT IF IT'S GOING TO MAKE IT ON THE BALLOT. AGAIN, AS I SAID BEFORE, WITHOUT QUESTION THERE ARE QUESTIONS. THESE QUESTIONS NEED TO BE ANSWERED AS WE MOVE FORWARD. THERE'S SOME TIME BEFORE THE ELECTION AND I THINK AS MANY OF THESE QUESTIONS WERE RAISED TONIGHT AND RAISED BY THE PUBLIC IT CAN BE ANSWERED BY THE ADMINISTRATION. I THINK THIS PROJECT DOES HAVE PROMISE. IT DOES HAVE PROMISE ALONG THE LINES OF WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT EARLIER OF LOCATING IT ON THE RAILRUNNER TRACKS AND ALONG THE MAJOR TRANSITS TO BRING IN A LARGER AUDIENCE WITH THOSE OPTIONS. PLENTY OF QUESTIONS OF MY OWN, BUT WITH THIS COMMUNITY BENEFITS AGREEMENT, WE'RE MAKING A STRONG FOOT FORWARD TOWARD HELPING THE IMMEDIATE COMMUNITY, WHICHEVER ONE IT IS IF IT'S APPROVED. PLENTY OF THINGS CAN BE SAID, IT'S A LATE NIGHT AND I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. I THINK LET'S LET THE VOTERS DECIDE. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON. COUNCILOR BASSAN, DID YOU HAVE ANYTHING TO ADD? ALL RIGHT, WITH THAT COUNCILORS, WE'LL MOVE TO THE VOTE. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: NO. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: NO. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. THAT MOTION PASSES ON A 7-2 VOTE. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM T. COUNCILOR PEÑA. R-193. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. GIVE ME JUST TWO SECONDS TO SHIFT THROUGH THE PAGES. R-193 IS THE CITY -- MULTI-USE SOCCER STADIUM TO INCLUDE ONE OR MORE OPTIONS WEST OF THE RIVER AND APPROPRIATE FUNDS FOR THE SAME. I MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR PEÑA. I'LL SECOND THAT VOTE. ARE THERE QUESTIONS FOR THE COUNCIL? I DO NOT SEE ANY QUESTIONS. SURPRISINGLY. GOING ONCE, GOING TWICE. WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: NO. >>COUN. BENTON: NO. >>COUN. DAVIS: NO. >>COUN. GIBSON: NO. >>COUN. HARRIS: NO. >>COUN. JONES: NO. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS, FOR THAT. WHAT WAS THAT VOTE? 6-3. WITH THAT, COUNCILOR, WE'LL GOING TO BACK TO THE BEGINNING OF THE AGENDA. AND WE HAVE SOME COUNCILORS THAT HAVE AGREED TO DEFER. I THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR THAT. IT APPEARS COUNCILOR SENA, C, D, E. IT APPEARS WE'LL DEFER THESE. COUNCILOR SENA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO DEFER THE MOTION FOR EACH? >>COUN. SENA: I THINK I'LL HAVE TO DO THESE SEPARATELY. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES, A MOTION FOR EACH. >>COUN. SENA: I PREFER NOT TO, BUT I THINK IN SPITE OF TIME AND TO ALLOW US TO THINK IT THROUGH, I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO DEFER O-67 TO THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. >>COUN. BORREGO: THAT WOULD BE TO SEPTEMBER 8th. IT LOOKS LIKE YOU HAVE A SECK FROM COUNCILOR HARRIS. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR HARRIS FOR THAT MOTION. ANY QUESTIONS? IF NOT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO O-67. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. COUNCILOR SENA, ITEM D. >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I MOVE DEFERRAL OF R173 TO OUR SEPTEMBER 8th COUNCIL MEETING. >>COUN. BORREGO: I'M SORRY, R-173. THAT WOULD BE SEPTEMBER 8th. >>COUN. JONES: I'LL SECOND THAT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR JONES FOR THAT SECOND. ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR DAVIS, YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP, IS THAT A SECOND? I THOUGHT SO. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCILOR SENA. WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM E. COUNCILOR SENA. >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I WILL MOVE FOR A DEFERRAL OF R-178 TO SEPTEMBER 8th COUNCIL MEETING. >>COUN. BORREGO: I WILL SECOND THAT COUNCILOR. AND COUNCILOR BENTON ALSO OFFERED A SECOND. ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCILORS? I DON'T SEE ANY QUESTIONS. WE'LL MOVE TO THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. HARRIS: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. THAT BRINGS US TO A 9-0 VOTE. WE ARE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM F. COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. DEPENDING UPON THE STAFF REPORT, I THINK WE CAN MOVE ON THESE TWO NUISANCE BILLS QUICKLY. JUST A QUICK UPDATE IF WE CAN FROM MR. METSGER OR THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU FOR BEING WITH US. >> THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. ON R-135, THIS PROPERTY IS CURRENTLY IN BEING REHABBED. WE HAD A RESPONSIBLE PARTY STEP UP. THEY HAVE COMMENCED WORK AND ARE MOVING FORWARD ON RENOVATING THE STRUCTURE. >>COUN. BENTON: WHILE WE'RE ON THIS, MADAM PRESIDENT, CAN YOU GIVE US AN UPDATE ON 155. I KNOW I'M OUT OF BOUNDS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON. WE WILL HANDLE THEM WITH SEPARATE MOTION BUT WE CAN DISCUSS THEM SINCE THEY'RE WITHIN THE SAME GENERAL AREA. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BENTON, I APOLOGIZE I HAVE THEM SWITCHED. R-135 HAS BEEN SOLD. THE NEW OWNER HAS MOVED FORWARD WITH RENOVATING. AND R-155 THE RESPONSIBLE PARTY HAS STEPPED UP AND STARTED RENOVATION AND CLEANING THE PROPERTY AND GETTING IT READY FOR HABITABLE STATUS. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. ON THE ITEM OF R-135, HELP ME OUT. CAN I MOVE A WITHDRAWAL OF THIS? >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BENTON, IT IS NOT AN INAPPROPRIATE TIME TO MOVE WITHDRAWAL. YOU CAN MOVE THAT AT THIS POINT IF THAT'S THE MOTION YOU'D LIKE TO MAKE. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR BENTON. ARE YOU WITHDRAWING THIS? >>COUN. BENTON: I HEARD NONE OF THAT. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON. THIS ITEM IS WITHDRAWN. WE HAVE TO VOTE? WE WILL HAVE TO VOTE ON THAT. I'LL SECOND THAT. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. COUNCILOR HARRIS HAD TO LEAVE US. WE'RE ON ITEM G. COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. BENTON: ITEM G, MADAM PRESIDENT, THIS IS THE HIGH STREET SOUTHEAST. I'LL MOVE A DEFERRAL OF FIRST MEETING OF OCTOBER. >>COUN. JONES: I'LL SECOND THAT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR JONES. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. OKAY COUNCILORS. THAT IS OCTOBER 4th. COUNCILOR SENA, H. R-156. >>COUN. SENA: I MOVE R-156 NUISANCE SUBSTANDARD DWELLING AT 832ESTANCIA, THIS IS IN ALBUQUERQUE SO RUINED AND DILAPIDATED TO TO BE A MENACE TO THE HEALTH AND SAFETY THAT IS REQUIRED TO BE REMOVED. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. I'LL SECOND YOUR MOTION. >>COUN. SENA: CAN WE GET AN UPDATE ON THIS? >> YES, MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SENA. THIS PROPERTY HAS REALLY STARTED TO DETEARIERATE AND ATTRACT A LOT OF PEOPLE INTO IT. IT'S REALLY BECOMING A NUISANCE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE RECOMMEND A PASS TO ALLOW US TO DEMO THE PROPERTY. >>COUN. SENA: THANK YOU. I WILL SAY THAT ON THIS PROPERTY WE HAVE HAD NO LUCK IN TERMS OF REACHING OUT TO THE PROPERTY OWNERS. I WOULD HAVE BEEN WILLING TO DEFER THIS TONIGHT BECAUSE OF MORE EFFORTS. I THINK AFTER YOUR UPDATE AND HEARING SOME OF THE ISSUES IT'S GENERATING, I'M GOING TO PROCEED FORWARD. IT'S NOT AN EASY THING WE DO AND NOT BY ANY MEANS SOMETHING THAT WE WANT TO DO. BUT OF COURSE THE HOPE IS SOMEONE WOULD COME FORWARD. THANK YOU, AND I APPRECIATE ALL THE HARD WORK YOU AND CODE ENFORCEMENT ARE DOING. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SENA, THANK YOU. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SENA, WE KNOW YOU'VE BEEN WORKING ON THIS AND REALLY TRYING HARD FOR THE LAST YEAR, AT LEAST THAT I KNOW OF. I GUESS IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS, WE'LL MOVE TO MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. WE WILL MOVE TO R-171. ITEM I, THAT'S COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. BENTON: YES, THANK YOU. MADAM PRESIDENT, IT'S CONCERNING THE FUTURE MANAGEMENT OF THE THE CANDELARIA NATURE PRESERVE AND THE APPROVAL OF ITS RESOURCE MANAGEMENT PLAN. I MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR, YOU HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR DAVIS. ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCILORS? >>COUN. BENTON: MADAM PRESIDENT, WE HAVE A NUMBER OF AMENDMENTS. THIS PLAN HAS BEEN A LONG TIME COMING. I THINK IT DESERVES A FULL HEARING. I'M GOING TO MOVE A DEFERRAL UNTIL THE NEXT MEETING. >>COUN. JONES: I'LL SECOND THAT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. WE'LL HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR JONES. ANY QUESTIONS, IF NOT WE'LL MOVE TO MS. ORTEGA. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. THAT MOTION IS DEFERRED UNTIL SEPTEMBER 8th. WE'LL MOVE TO COUNCILOR BENTON AND COUNCILOR DAVIS. R-179. >>COUN. DAVIS: BEAR WITH ME, MY APOLOGIES. I'M GOING TO ASK, THERE WAS A TIME SENSITIVE MATTER ON GETTING THIS PASSED. IF WE CAN WAIT I'D PREFER TO WAIT. I'M SENSITIVE TO A STATE DEADLINE WE HAVE TO COMPLY WITH. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR DAVIS I'M NOT AWARE OF THE DEADLINE. I UNDERSTAND THERE'S URGENCY ON THAT FRONT. TOO EXTENT YOU CAN GET THROUGH THIS QUICKLY THAT WOULD BE PREFERRED SINCE IT'S DEFERRED A COUPLE TIMES. >>COUN. DAVIS: I THINK THAT'S THE CASE. MADAM PRESIDENT, I'M GOING TO MOVE R-187 IN CONCERNS OF BOND ELECTION BEING -- DECLARING R-179 DECLACLARING THE INTENT TO ADOPT THE SOUTH CAMPUS TID. AND ALL THE OTHER THINGS THAT GO WITH IT. I MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR DAVIS. WE HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BENTON. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I MOVE A FLOOR SUBSTITUTE. IT'S AVAILABLE IN THE iPAD. IT'S BEEN AVAILABLE FOR REVIEW. IT HAS TECHNICAL CHANGES. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. JONES: I'LL SECOND THAT. >>COUN. BORREGO: AND THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON. THEY BOTH SECOND THAT. ANY DISCUSSION? >>COUN. DAVIS: I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BORREGO: SO, WE'LL TAKE A VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT. THE FLOOR SUB. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. COUNCILOR DAVIS, DO YOU HAVE AN AMENDMENT? >>COUN. DAVIS: IF YOU COLLEAGUE COUNCILOR BENTON IS HAVING CONNECTION ISSUES. I'M GOING TO MOVE THE AMENDMENT TO THE FLOOR SUBSTITUTE. THANK YOU TO MR. MOYA. I UNDERSTAND THE ADMINISTRATION DOES NOT OPPOSE THIS. I MOVE THE FLOOR SUBSTITUTE AS DISPLAYED ON THE SCREEN. WHATEVER THE NUMBER IS. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR DAVIS. WE'LL CALL THAT FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. I HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BENTON AND COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. DAVIS: THE ADMINISTRATION DOESN'T HAVE ANY COMMENT, I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BORREGO: ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCILORS? >> MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: MR. RAEL. >> I KNOW WE'VE DEFERRED A COUPLE OF TIMES. I APPRECIATE THE COUNCILORS, COUNCILOR DAVIS AND COUNCILOR BENTON, SENDING THE LANGUAGE TO US. WE'RE FINE WITH THIS. I THINK THIS IS A GOOD IDEA TO SUPPORT THE DEVELOPMENT. WE URGE THE SUPPORT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, MR. RAEL. >>COUN. DAVIS: MADAM PRESIDENT, WE APPRECIATE THE ADMINISTRATION WORKING WITH US THROUGH THE UNUSUAL CIRCUMSTANCES. THANK YOU TO MR. RAEL FOR WORKING WITH US. >>COUN. BORREGO: WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE TO THE VOTE ON THE FLOOR AMENDMENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, THAT'S THE FLOOR AMENDMENT. WE'LL BACK TO THE FLOOR SUB, COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: R-179 AS SUBSTITUTED AND AMENDED, I MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR BASSAN -- I THINK WE HAD A MOTION ON THAT. AND A SECOND. SO, WE DIDN'T NEED THAT MOTION, COUNCILOR DAVIS. WE'LL TAKE THE VOTE ON IT. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. SORRY, I MUTED MYSELF. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. WE'RE ALMOST DONE. I'M GOING TO MOVE ON, COUNCILORS, TO ITEM M, WHICH IS MY BILL. R-188. ENCOURAGING THE ALBUQUERQUE DITCH AND WATER SAFETY TASK FORCE TO CONDUCT A STUDY TO IMPROVE THE SAFETY OF STORM WATER CHANNELS, AND IRRIGATION CANALS. I WOULD LIKE TO THANK THE MAYOR FOR HELPING US TO FIND THE FUNDING FOR THIS STUDY. I SEE COUNCILOR SENA IS OFFERING A SECOND. ANY QUESTIONS? IF NOT, COUNCILORS, WE'LL MOVE TO THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. WE ARE MOVING ON TO THE ITEM N, WHICH IS COUNCILOR BENTON. O-74. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. O-74 IS AMENDING ORDINANCE O-21-65 RELATE TO THE AUTHORIZATION ISHANCE AND SALE OF CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE INDUSTRIAL REVENUE BOND FOR EL ENCANTO TAX-EXEMPT 2021 AND PROVIDING THE ISSUANCE OF THE BOND AS A TAXABLE BOND. >>COUN. GIBSON: MADAM PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: EXCUSE ME COUNCILOR GIBSON, YOU NEED TO MOVE O-74 AND THE FLOOR SUBSTITUTE. I GUESS THAT'S A MOTION FOR O-74 FIRST. >>COUN. BENTON: THAT WAS THE MAIN BILL. >>COUN. BORREGO: I NEEDED A SECOND ON THAT. >>COUN. GIBSON: SECOND. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR GIBSON. COUNCILOR GIBSON, DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? >>COUN. GIBSON: YOU COVERED IT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR BENTON, WE'LL MOVE ON TO YOUR FLOOR SUB, AT THIS TIME. >>COUN. BENTON: YES, I'LL MOVE FLOOR SUBSTITUTE FOR O74. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, FOR THE SECOND COUNCILOR DAVIS. ANY QUESTIONS? I DO NOT SEE QUESTIONS ON THE FLOOR SUB. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. THAT CONCLUDES ITEM N. WE'LL MOVE TO ITEM O, WHICH -- I HAVE TO GO ON BACK TO THE ORIGINAL BILL AS SUBSTITUTED. COUNCILOR BENTON TO CLOSE. >>COUN. BENTON: I URGE YOUR SUPPORT COUNCILORS. >>COUN. BORREGO: QUESTIONS, COUNCILORS? NOPE. OKAY, MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. COUNCILOR BASSAN, I CAN USE SOME OF THE LEVITY RIGHT ABOUT NOW. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, MY WATCH WENT TO SLEEP ALREADY. I'M NOT EVEN HERE ANYMORE. >>COUN. BORREGO: OKAY, COUNCILORS. WE'RE THREE MINUTES OUT FROM OUR TURNING INTO A PUMPKIN TIME. I NEED A MOTION FROM ONE OF THE COUNCILORS TO -- THE APPROPRIATE LANGUAGE. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM PRESIDENT, WE HAVE ONE MORE TO GO AND IT WILL -- >>COUN. BORREGO: WE ALSO HAVE THE APPEAL, COUNCILORS. >>COUN. BORREGO: I'M GOING TO NEED A MOTION FOR THE RULES SUSPENDED. >>COUN. GIBSON: I'LL MAKE THAT MOTION TO SUSPENDED THE RULE AND EXTEND THE RULES FOR 15 MINUTES? >>COUN. BORREGO: WE CAN GET DONE IN 15 MINUTES. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SENA FOR THE SECOND. MS. ORTEGA, WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE THAT VOTE? >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. WE'RE GOING TO TRY TO MOVE THIS ALONG IN 15 MINUTES. WE ARE ON OUR FINAL ORDER OF FINAL ACTIONS. COUNCILOR DAVIS, R-189. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. THIS IS BY REQUEST. I MOVE A DUE PASS ON R-189 WHICH ACCEPTS AND APPROPRIATES FAA GRANTS FROM THE AMERICAN RESCUE PLAN FOR THE AVIATION DEPARTMENT. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, YOU HAVE A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BENTON AND COUNCILOR SENA. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND. ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCILORS? I DON'T SEE ANY. WE WILL MOVE TO THE VOTE. MS. ORTEGA. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: YES. >>COUN. JONES: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. WITH THAT, WE'LL MOVE ON TO OUR FAVORITE PASTIME. ITEM NUMBER 12 PUBLIC HEARING. AND THIS IS AC-21-9. THIS IS LOCATED IN NOB HILL NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION APPEALS THE ZONING HEARING EXAMINER'S DECISION. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, THE ISSUE IS WHETHER A RESIDENTIAL WALL SHOULD BE APPROVED. THE ZONING HEARING EXAMINER APPROVED THAT VARIANCE. IT'S APPROVED. THE LAND USE HEARING OFFICER AND DETERMINED THAT THERE WAS SUFFICIENT EVIDENCE TO APPROVE THE VARIANCE. THERE'S UNIQUE CIRCUMSTANCES ON THE PROPERTY DUE TO PROXIMITY TO SILVER AVENUE WHICH SEP -- SEPARATES IT. AND THE LOAD TRUCKS AND CONTRIBUTES TO IMPACTS ON THE SUBJECT SITE. THE LAND USE HEARING OFFICER FOUND THAT EVIDENCE SUFFICIENT TO SUPPORT THE DECISION AND IS RECOMMENDING THE ZONING HEARING EXAMINER BE UPHOLD. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO HEAR FROM THE PARTIES. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS, I'LL DO BY BEST TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. YOU'LL MOVE TO ACCEPT OR REJECT THE LAND USE HEARING. IF YOU REJECT WE'LL SCHEDULE THIS FOR A FULL HEARING. AT THE NEXT MEETING. >>COUN. BORREGO: IT APPEARS WE HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS. COUNCILOR DAVIS AND COUNCILOR GIBSON. >>COUN. DAVIS: MADAM PRESIDENT, I LET -- I MAKE A MOTION TO REJECT THE RECOMMENDATIONS. IF THAT FAILS WE CAN TAKE OTHER OPTIONS. I DEFER TO OTHER COUNCILORS BEFORE I MAKE THAT MOTION. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR GIBSON. COUNCILOR SENA, DO YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP? COUNCILOR GIBSON. >>COUN. GIBSON: THANK YOU, MADAM PRESIDENT. I DON'T HAVE QUESTIONS. I WAS ABOUT TO MAKE A MOTION MYSELF WHICH IS DIFFERENT FROM COUNCILOR DAVIS'S. >>COUN. BORREGO: DO WE HAVE DISCUSSION? >>COUN. DAVIS: MADAM PRESIDENT, I CAN MAKE THIS QUICK IF COUNCILOR GIBSON IS OKAY WITH IT. I LIKE A MOTION TO REJECT THE RECOMMENDATIONS. I FEEL LIKE THE NEIGHBORHOOD MADE A DECENT ARGUMENT THAT THEIR HEARING -- THEY DIDN'T HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO PRESENT A FULL CASE. I THINK IT CAN BE DONE BETTER. I MAKE A MOTION TO REJECT THE RECOMMENDATIONS. IF THAT FAILS I DEFER TO OTHER COUNCILORS. >>COUN. BORREGO: COUNCILOR SENA, YOU HAVE YOUR HAND UP. >>COUN. SENA: I SECOND COUNCILOR DAVIS'S MOTION. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU. THAT'S A SECOND FOR COUNCILOR DAVIS'S MOTION. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO REJECT THE LUHO RECOMMENDATION. AND SCHEDULE THIS FOR A FULL HEARING. ANY QUESTIONS? IF NOT, WE'LL MOVE TO MS. ORTEGA FOR THE VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: NO. >>COUN. BENTON: YES. >>COUN. DAVIS: YES. >>COUN. GIBSON: NO. >>COUN. JONES: NO. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. SENA: YES. >>COUN. BORREGO: YES. >> MADAM PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, WE'LL HAVE A FULL HEARING ON THAT MATTER ON SEPTEMBER 8th. >>COUN. BORREGO: THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. THAT CONCLUDES OUR ORDER OF BUSINESS FOR TONIGHT. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS OR BUSINESS TO COME BEFORE THE COUNCIL? IF NOT, WE'RE ADJOURNED. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS.