GOOD. >> GOOD EVENING EVERYONE AND WELCOME. I WILL CALL THIS BLOOMINGTON CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER. TONIGHT IS MONDAY, SEPTEMBER 29TH 2025. THANK YOU ALL FOR JOINING US THIS EVENING. THANKS FOR JOINING US ONLINE AND HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. WE WILL START AS WE ALWAYS DO IF YOU ARE ABLE PLEASE STAND. REMOVE ANY HEAD COVERINGS AND JOIN ME IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY FOR ALL . ONCE AGAIN, WELCOME. THANKS FOR JOINING US TONIGHT . COUNCIL FIRST UP IS TO APPROVE TONIGHT'S AGENDA AND WE HAVE ANOTHER FULL AGENDA THIS EVENING UNDER ITEM TWO OUR INTRODUCTORY ITEMS WE HAVE THREE THINGS WE HAVE A. ITEM 2.1 IS A CELEBRATION FOR THE 2025 HATCH BLOOMINGTON CONTEST THAT WE JUST COMPLETED HERE. ITEM 2.2 A PROCLAMATION FOR DISABILITY EMPLOYEE AWARENESS MONTH AND ITEM 2.3 WE WILL BE INTRODUCED TO A NEW EMPLOYEE IN OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT. OUR CONSENT AGENDA ITEM THREE HAS 22 ITEMS ON IT. COUNCILMEMBER HAS OUR CONSENT BUSINESS TONIGHT ON RIGHT AND FOR OUR HEARINGS RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES WE HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS AND IN 4.1 IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE AIRPORT STUDY ORDINANCE AND ITEM 4.2 IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE VACATION OF PUBLIC DRAINAGE UTILITY SIDEWALK AND BIKEWAY EASEMENTS. OVER AND ACROSS A LOT OF ONE BLOCK ONE CREEKSIDE CENTER WE'LL GET INTO THE SPECIFIC ADDRESS WHEN WE GET TO THAT ONE. SOME UNDER OUR ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS FOR ITEMS UNDER ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS ITEM 5.1 IS A STUDY ITEM REGARDING THE COMMERCIAL VEHICLES AND RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS THAT WAS ON OUR AGENDA LAST TIME AND WE DIDN'T QUITE GET TO IT BECAUSE IT GOT A LITTLE LATE. ITEM 55.2 IS ALSO A STUDY ITEM THIS REGARDING OUR ANNUAL MISCELLANEOUS ISSUES ORDINANCE ITEM 5.3 WE ARE GOING TO GET AN UPDATE ON MINDAT I 94 PROJECT TO AND OUT INFORMATION ON A MUNICIPAL CONSENT REQUEST AND ITEM 5.4 AN UPDATE ON OUR PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING PROCESS THAT'S UNDERWAY NOW WE'LL WRAP UP WITH ITEM 5.5 AS WE ALWAYS DO OUR COUNCIL POLICY AND ISSUE UPDATE COUNCIL THAT IS OUR PROPOSED AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING. ARE THERE ANY CORRECTIONS OR ANYTHING ELSE TO ADD TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA? HEARING NONE. I WOULD MOVE THAT AGENDA AS STATED. SECOND MOTION AND THE SECOND BY COUNCIL MEMBER LOWMAN TO ACCEPT TONIGHT'S AGENDA AS STATED NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO AND WE HAVE AN AGENDA AND FIRST UP ON OUR AGENDA IS ITEM 2.1 OUR 2025 HATCH BLOOMINGTON CELEBRATION. SHAWN IF YOU COULD KICK US OFF AND THEN WE'LL GET TO THE TO THE OFFICIAL CELEBRATION PART OF IT. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE ALIVE. I'M WAITING FOR MY SLIDES . THERE WE GO. SO MR. MAYOR, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME HERE TONIGHT. WE ARE HERE TO CELEBRATE THE WINNER OF THE 2025 HATCH BLOOMINGTON COMPETITION. FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE NOT FAMILIAR WITH SCIENCE, I'M GOING TO KEEP HATCH BLOOMINGTON IS A BUSINESS RETAIL PITCH COMPETITION. THIS IS THE SECOND YEAR THAT THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON HAS SPONSORED THIS COMPETITION. LAST YEAR WE HAD SCRAMBLING EGG THE FACT THAT THE FAST FAST CASUAL BREAKFAST JOINT IT OPENED UP RECENTLY ACTUALLY AT THE BEGINNING OF THE 2025 COMPETITION AND I'D SAY IT WAS A FAIRLY FAIRLY POPULAR SUCCESSFUL ENDEAVOR IF YOU HAVE NOT BEEN TO SCRAMBLING EGG I HIGHLY RECOMMEND IT TO EVERYBODY. YEAR TWO KICKED OFF IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR. IT HAS GONE THROUGHOUT THE WHOLE SUMMER ANDE RECENTLY HAD OUR FINAL PITCH ROUND AND WE HAVE A WINNER SO WE ARE HERE TONIGHT TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF UPDATE ON THAT AND WE HAVE A LARGE CHECK FOR THEM AND SOME PHOTOS SO I WON'T GO THROUGH ALL THIS BUT JUST LIKE I SAID, HATCH BLOOMINGTON IS A RETAIL PITCH COMPETITION HERE IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. WE LOOK WE ARE LOOKING TO REVITALIZE ECONOMIC CORRIDORS THROUGHOUT THE CITY. WE ARE LOOKING TO BRING IN THE RESIDENTS AND THE COMMUNITY IN IN THIS PROCESS SO THERE'S A PUBLIC VOTING COMPONENT AND WE WOULD LIKE TO BUILD THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON INTO WE WOULD LIKE TO BRING THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON INTO THE ECONOMY OF THE FUTURE WITH WITH A FOCUS ON SMALL BUSINESSES SORRY SMALL FOR. SO JUST BRIEFLY THROUGH WE RECEIVED ABOUT 50 APPLICATIONS THIS YEAR WE HAD 35 THAT WE THOUGHT WERE COMPLETE ENOUGH TO CONSIDER FOR THE PROGRAM. WE HAD A TOP 25 PITCH EVENT IN JUNE AND THAT NARROWED IT DOWN TO THE TOP TEN COHORT YOU SEE HERE WHICH THEN PITCHED IN JULY. YOU CAN SEE THAT THERE'S A WIDE VARIETY OF DIFFERENT BUSINESSES THAT WERE PROPOSED. THERE WAS A LOT OF INTERESTING IDEAS CHARISMATIC ENTREPRENEURS AND THROUGH THAT TOP TEN PITCH ROUND WE WE MOVED ON TO OUR TOP THREE COHORT. SO THIS TOP THREE COHORT RECENTLY PITCHED AT THE BEGINNING OF SEPTEMBER YOU CAN SEE THAT WE HAVE BOTH MOTHER NUNA AND TWIN CITIES STREET WHERE AND THEY'RE ALL VERY COMPELLING. WE WERE GOING TO GET DOWN TO THE DETAILS OF WHAT CAME OUT OF THAT IN A SOND BUT I WANT TO THIS IS THE SLIDE THAT I WANT TO FOCUS ON AND THE VALUE THAT BLOOMINGTON BRINGS TO THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AS A WHOLE. SO WE HAD GLOBAL ENGAGEMENT THROUGH A PUBLIC VOTING COMPONENT SO THE THE ENTREPRENEURS THAT MOVE FROM THE TOP TEN TO THE TOP THREE ROUND AND THEN EVENTUALLY SELECT THE WINNER THAT IS DECIDED THROUGH A SEVEN MEMBER SEVEN MEMBER JUDGE PANEL AND THEN ALSO A COMMUNITY VOTING COMPONENT. SO THROUGH EACH PITCH EVENT THE ENTREPRENEURS PITCH TO THE JUDGE PANEL WE LIVE STREAM IT AND WE RECORD IT AND WE PUBLISH THAT SO THE COMMUNITY CAN WATCH AND PARTICIPATE AND THEN SUBMIT THEIR THEIR VOTE FOR WHO SHOULD MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ROUND OR BECOME THE NEXT WINNER THROUGH PUBLIC VOTING SOFTWARE. SO YOU CAN SEE HERE THE MOST POPULAR LOCATION THESE NUMBERS ARE ACTUALLY DON'T REFLECT THE TOTAL VOTES SUBMITTED BETWEEN 2024 AND 2025. WE HAD ABOUT 20,000 UNIQUE VOTES SUBMITTED. THIS IS JUST KIND OF A SNAPSHOT OF THE WIDE VARIETY PEOPLE TUNING IN FROM ALL OVER THE WORLD EMAIL DISTRIBUTION WE SENT 15 EMAIL BLASTS THAT REACHED 9000 UNIQUE INDIVIDUALS AND OUR SOCIAL MEDIA PRESENCE GREW QUITE QUITE SUBSTANTIALLY BETWEEN 2024 AND 2025. AS YOU CAN SEE THAT THIS THIS PROGRAMMATIC YEAR WE HAD 130,000 TOTAL VIEWS ON INSTAGRAM ALONE. BUT THE REAL MEAT HERE I WANT TO TALK ABOUT IS THE MEDIA RESULTS. SO BETWEEN APRIL OF 2024 AND AUGUST OF 2025 WE HAD 189 MENTIONS IN THE MEDIA. SO THAT IS UNIQUE INDEPENDENT OUTLETS WRITING ABOUT HATCH, WRITING ABOUT SCRAMBLING EGGS THE 2024 WINNER WRITING ABOUT THE PROCESS HERE IN 2025 AND THAT WAS AN AUDIENCE OF 240 MILLION EYEBALLS THESE ARE ESTIMATES. BUT THIS YOU KNOW, THIS IS WHAT WE'RE GATHERING FROM OUR MEDIA AGGREGATORS AND THAT HAS A TOTAL PUBLICITY VALUE OF $5 MILLION IN EARNED MEDIA AND THIS IS THROUGH ONLINE PRINT, TV, RADIO, YOUTUBE. SO THIS HAS BEEN A HUGE LIFT. THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF PEOPLE ON THE HATCH TEAM HAVE BEEN WORKING ON THIS. I WANT TO MAKE SURE TO TO GIVE THEM A CALL OUT HERE. YOU CAN SEE THE SEVEN MEMBER JUDGE PANEL, THE HATCH BLOOMINGTON TEAM WHICH IS CITY STAFF AND THEN THE VARIOUS ORGANIZATIONS THAT CONTRIBUTED TO OFFERING PRO-BONO ASSISTANCE. LASTLY, I WOULD LIKE TO INTRODUCE THE HATCH 2025 WINNER IT'S BOOK MOTHER FOUNDED BY TWILA DANG WHO WE HAVE HERE IN THE AUDIENCE BOOK MOTHER IS AN INDEPENDENT BOOKSTORE AND COMMUNITY SPACE FOR PEOPLE TO GATHER AND AND FIND THAT SENSE OF COMMUNITY AROUND REAL PHYSICAL BOOKS. SO HER VISION IS IS TO CREATE FIRST OUR REGIONAL NEIGHBORHOOD HUB AND THEN GROW THAT INTO A REGIONAL BOOKSTORE AND CHAIN I BELIEVE SO WITHOUT FURTHER ADO I'D LIKE TO INVITE THE MAYOR DOWN HERE. I'D LIKE TO INVITE TWILA TO COME UP. WE HAVE A LITTLE CEREMONY GIFT FOR HER . YOU CAN BRING YOUR BUSINESS PARTNERS UP AS WELL IF YOU LIKE. SO I DON'T THINK YOU'RE GETTING OUT AS WELL AS SHAWN SAID, YOU'RE TOO OF HATCH. BLOOMINGTON WAS AN ENORMOUS SUCCESS. COULD NOT BE HAPPIER WITH THE QUALITY OF THE ENTREPRENEURS THAT WE SAW COME FORWARD HOW WELL IT WAS ALL PUT TOGETHER. I THINK STAFF DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB PUTTING THIS COMPETITION TOGETHER AND BRINGING FOLKS ALONG AND THE OUTCOME OF IT AND THE OUTCOME OBVIOUSLY SO VERY PROUD OF YOU TWILA AND SO LOOKING FORWARD TO THE OPENING OF BOOK MOTHER IN BLOOMINGTON. BUT I DO WANT TO TAKE JUST A MOMENT TOO TO CALL OUT HOW IMPRESSIVE IT IS THE WORK THAT WENT INTO THE FOLKS WHO DIDN'T WIN. OBVIOUSLY IF WE HAVE ALL THOSE FOLKS WHO WHO ENTERED ONLY ONE WINNER BUT THE RESOURCES THAT WERE BROUGHT FORWARD TO THE FOLKS WHO BROUGHT FORWARD THEIR THEIR THEIR IDEA THE THE CONNECTIONS THAT THEY MADE, THE FINE TUNING, THE HONING OF THEIR PITCH THAT THEY DID JUST THINKING ABOUT IT, THINKING ABOUT THINGS THAT YOU TYPICALLY WOULDN'T IT'S IMPRESSIVE TO SEE AND IT'S IMPRESSIVE TO TALK TO SOME OF THESE FOLKS ABOUT WHAT THE NEXT STEPS MIGHT BE FOR THEM THAT THEY ARE NOW IN A POSITION EVEN SHORT OF WINNING THE COMPETITION. THEY ARE NOW IN THE POSITION TO POSSIBLY OPEN OR TO EXPAND THEIR BUSINESS HERE IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON, WHICH IS A WONDERFUL WAY TO DO ALL OF THIS BECAUSE YES, WE HAVE ONE WINNER BUT ACTUALLY WE'VE GOT A LOT OF WINNERS AND THE BIG WINNER OF COURSE ARE THE ENTREPRENEURS AND THE FOLKS THAT ARE THE PEOPLE IN BLOOMINGTON. WE'RE GOING TO BENEFIT FROM ALL THESE BUSINESSES. TWYLA I FIRST MET HER AT AN A BUSINESS CONNECTIONS WORKSHOP DOWN AT FRIENDSHIP VILLAGE ACTUALLY WITH THE HEAD UP WITH MINNEAPOLIS REGIONAL CHAMBER. I THINK IT WAS AN ELEVATE HENNEPIN AND SHE WAS SITTING VERY QUIETLY IN THE BACK AND I INTRODUCED MYSELF AND SHE SAID FLAT OUT ON TWYLA DAY AND I'M GOING TO OPEN A BOOKSTORE IN BLOOMINGTON. I WAS VERY IMPRESSED NOT I WOULD LIKE TO NOT ARE THINKING ABOUT THIS. SHE SAID I'M GOING TO DO THIS AND USE THE RESOURCES AVAILABLE TO HER THROUGH BLOOMINGTON TO MAKE IT A REALITY SO CONGRATULATIONS. THANK YOU. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH FOR THE WORK THAT YOU PUT INTO IT. I KNOW IT'S AN ENORMOUS LIFT. THANK YOU FOR THE SUPPORT THAT YOU GOT AS YOU SAID FROM YOUR BUSINESS PARTNERS HERE AND LOOKING FORWARD TO FAMILY BUSINESS. ABSOLUTELY. AND JUST CONGRATULATIONS AND I CAN'T WAIT FOR YOU NOW TO BECOME OUR NEXT HATCH BLOOMINGTON SPOKESPERSON AND SPREAD THE WORD. SO NEXT YEAR WE ARE EVEN BIGGER AND BETTER ONCE AGAIN. SO FOLKS JOIN ME IN CONGRATULATING TWYLA . THANK YOU. FIRST I JUST WANTED TO SAY REALLY QUICKLY REALLY AND TRULY THANK YOU TO EVERYONE 20 YEARS AGO WE CHOSE THIS PLACE TO BE OUR HOMETOWN. MY TWO OF MY THREE CHILDREN ARE HERE AND WE MOVED IN A WEEK AFTER MY ELDEST WAS BORN AND FOR MY HUSBAND AND I THAT WAS A CHOICE. WE WANTED A HOMETOWN. WE WANTED A PLACE WE COULD GROW OUR FAMILY AND BLOOMINGTON HAS GIVEN US A LOT. SO THE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THIS HERE IS MEANINGFUL NOT JUST BECAUSE WE WANT MONEY ALTHOUGH THAT'S NICE BUT IT REALLY IS MEANINGFUL TO KNOW THAT WE ARE NOW GOING TO BUILD AND AND ADD SOMETHING TO THE LEGACY OF THE CITY AND IT IT'S ONLY MADE EVEN BETTER BY KNOWING THAT MY CHILDREN ACTIVELY WANT TO BE INVOLVED IN THE BUSINESS BUT THIS IS JUST THE START AND REALLY AND TRULY THANK YOU TO EVERYONE. I THINK I'VE GOTTEN A CHANCE TO SPEAK TO EVERYONE THAT WAS A PART OF THE PANEL. I DON'T THINK I'VE DONE NEARLY A GOOD ENOUGH JOB OF THANKING EVERYONE IN THE CITY THAT'S BEEN SO HELPFUL WHETHER IT BE SHAUN OR WHETHER IT'S BARB OR ALL THE WAY DOWN TO THE LOVELY COLLEGE STUDENT THAT WAS A SOCIAL MEDIA PERSON. EVERYONE HAS BEEN SUCH A LOVELY AND GOOD STEWARD AND WHAT WE HOPE TO DO IS BE A GOOD STEWARD IN RETURN. SO THANK YOU . AND NOW COMES THE FUN PART JUST LIKE YOU WANT A GOLF TOURNAMENT WE HAVE A BIG WE HAVE A BIG CHECK FOR YOU SO WE'RE GOING TO STAND OVER HERE AND MAKE SURE THAT WE GET THIS PICTURE AS WE NEED IT. YOU'VE GOT TO BE IN THE PICTURE TILL YOU GET ME THIS FAR. I'LL TAKE THREE PICTURES ON THREE. ONE TWO THREE. ONE, TWO, THREE AND ONE, TWO, THREE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU ONCE AGAIN IF ONE OF YOU TWO OF BOTH OF THESE SEEMS TO BE HANGING IN THE AIR IN THE SHOP WHEN YOU GET IT SO ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU. THANKS SO MUCH FOR THAT WAS JUST VERY NICE. WHAT A GREAT GROUP AND I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE BOOK MOTHER OPENED AND PART OF THE BLOOMINGTON BUSINESS COMMUNITY THERE. IT'S GOING TO BE A GREAT ADDITION. LOOKING FORWARD TO IT VERY VERY MUCH. NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS A PROCLAMATION PROCLAMATION FOR DISABILITY EMPLOYEE AWARENESS MONTH WHICH IS IN OCTOBER THE 1ST THROUGH THE 31ST AND THIS IS OUR LAST MEETING BEFORE THE MONTH OF OCTOBER IF YOU CAN BELIEVE THAT DESPITE THE 85 DEGREE WEATHER WE ARE IN FACT MOVING INTO OCTOBER AND AN OPPORTUNITY TO TO MAKE THIS PRESENTATION AND WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF FOLKS HERE WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND WHAT WE TYPICALLY DO IS INVITE YOU TO COME UP HERE AND STAND WITH ME WHILE I READ THE PROCLAMATION AND I'LL TURN THEM OVER TO YOU. WE'VE GOT MAXINE PREGGERS ILKKA WELCOME AND THEN FROM ARE FROM OUR CITY STAFF AND SO THIS IS A PROCLAMATION FOR DISABILITY DISABILITY EMPLOYEE AWARENESS MONTH OCTOBER 1ST THROUGH THE 31ST 2025 WHEREAS RECOGNIZING THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES HELPS BREAK DOWN STEREOTYPES AND REMOVE BARRIERS SO EVERYONE CAN HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO FULLY PARTICIPATE IN COMMUNITY LIFE INCLUDING EDUCATION, RECREATION AND EMPLOYMENT. AND. WHEREAS, PEOPLE WITH BOTH VISIBLE AND NON-VISIBLE DISABILITIES ARE AN ESSENTIAL PART OF OUR COMMUNITY THEIR ARE WORKERS LEADERS, BUSINESS OWNERS VETERANS FAMILY MEMBERS AND FRIENDS THEY BRING CREATIVITY SKILLS AND VALUABLE PERSPECTIVE TO OUR WORKPLACES, SCHOOLS AND NEIGHBORHOODS. AND. WHEREAS, MANY BLOOMINGTON EMPLOYEES EMPLOYERS INCLUDING BUSINESSES NONPROFIT SCHOOLS AND GOVERNMENT AGENCIES LEAD THE WAY IN CREATING WELCOMING WORKSPACES FOR PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES IN ALL EMPLOYMENT PRACTICES. AND. WHEREAS, THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON IS COMMITTED TO MAKING SURE CITY PROGRAMS AND EMPLOYMENT PRACTICES ARE ACCESSIBLE AND INCLUSIVE SO THAT ALL PEOPLE CAN LIVE WITH DIGNITY, INDEPENDENCE AND OPPORTUNITY. AND. WHEREAS, THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON'S BETTER TOGETHER EMPLOYEE RESOURCE GROUP SUPPORTS EMPLOYEES WITH DISABILITY IS NOW AND IN THE FUTURE BY BUILDING COMMUNITY AND PROMOTING INCLUSION. AND. WHEREAS, BLOOMINGTON IS PROUD TO CONTINUE ITS COMMITMENT TO EQUAL ACCESS AND FULL INCLUSION OF PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES NOW THEREFORE I TIM BUSSE MAYOR OF THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON ON BEHALF OF THE CITY COUNCIL PROCLAIM OCTOBER 2025 AS NATIONAL DISABILITY EMPLOYMENT AWARENESS AWARENESS MONTH IN BLOOMINGTON I ENCOURAGE ALL OF US TO HONOR AND CELEBRATE THE ACHIEVEMENTS AND CONTRIBUTIONS OF PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES IN OUR COMMUNITY DATA THIS 29TH DAY OF SEPTEMBER 2025 MAXINE I'M GOING TO TURN THE MICROPHONE OVER TO YOU. >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. AND THANK ALL OF YOU FOR BEING HERE. THIS IS REALLY TO ME IT'S JUST A WONDERFUL DAY. THE PROCLAMATION FOR DISABILITY EMPLOYEE AWARENESS MONTH IS SOMETHING THAT I CELEBRATE EVERY YEAR AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO SAY THAT NOT EVERY MAJOR CITY HAS MADE SPECIAL ARRANGEMENTS TO DRAW ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT WHEN EMPLOYERS SUPPORT EXCEPTIONAL INDIVIDUALS WITH DISABILITIES OR STAY ON THE JOB LONGER THAN THEIR TYPICAL PEERS WHO SHOW DILIGENCE IN THE FACE OF SOMETIMES REPETITIVE WORK WHOSE DISPLAY AND COMMUNICATE LOYALTY POSITIVE ATTITUDE ORGANIZATIONS ACHIEVE SUCCESS AND THAT IS WHY WE'RE HERE TONIGHT. I AM PART OF THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON DISABILITY EMPLOYMENT AWARENESS MONTH PLANNING TEAM. WE BRING RECOGNITION AND AWARENESS OF EMPLOYEES WITH DISABILITIES WITH THEIR TALENTS A ABILITIES AND ACHIEVEMENTS AND TO THEIR EMPLOYERS. THIS YR OUR COMMITTEE GREW AND ADDED FROM THE DISABILITY COMMUNITY AND LEADERS FROM SOCIAL SERVICE AGENCIES, OTHER GROUPS AS WELL AS THE HUMAN RIGHTS COMMISSION. WE HONOR THE EMPLOYEES AND LEADERS AND THANK THEM FOR THEIR PRESENCE AS PART OF THE BLOOMINGTON COMMUNITY. AS OUR COMMITTEE SURVEYED THE COMPANIES WITHIN BLOOMINGTON, WE FOUND THAT THEY WERE PROUD OF SAYING THAT THEIR EMPLOYEES WITH DISABILITIES WERE POSITIVE PROVIDED A TEAM ORIENTED SPIRIT TO THE WORKERS AROUND THEM AND SOME EMPLOYEES HAD BEEN IN THE JOB FOR MORE THAN TEN YEARS. EMPLOYERS WHO OPEN THEIR DOORS AND KEEP THEIR DOORS OPEN WHEN AN IF AN EMPLOYEE BECOMES DISABLED SEE POSITIVE OUTCOMES AND A HAPPIER WORKFORCE THEIR BUSSE HERE IS DECLARED THE MONTH OF OCTOBER 2025 NATIONAL DISABILITY AND PLANNING AWARENESS MONTH AS ANNOUNCEMENT TO HONOR AND CELEBRATE THE ACHIEVEMENTS AND CONTRIBUTIONS OF PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES IN OUR COMMUNITY . AS RETIRED HUMAN RESOURCES LEADER WITH MORE THAN 35 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE I CAN TELL YOU THAT WE ARE IN A LABOR MARKET THAT IS SHORT ON CANDIDATES SKILLED PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES ARE WORKING HARD EVERY DAY IN OUR COMMUNITY TO BENEFIT OUR ORGANIZATIONS. I'M HONORED TO BE HERE TO SINCERELY SAY THANK YOU TO THEM AND TO THEIR EMPLOYERS. THANK YOU AGAIN TO ALL OF YOU AND TO MAYOR BUSSE FOR HIS INITIATIVE IN THIS AND LEADERSHIP WE WILL BE HOSTING AN EVENT ON OCTOBER 31ST IN THE MIDDLE OF THE DAY TO PROVIDE RESOURCE TABLES, A LUNCH AND A PANEL OF SPEAKERS. WE'LL HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON AVAILABLE VERY SOON. IS THAT RIGHT, ERIC OKAY. YOUNG ERIC'S KIND OF OUR POINT PERSON HERE ON THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON WEBSITE AND I ENCOURAGE ALL OF YOU TO JOIN US THAT DAY. THANK YOU . HELLO EVERYONE. ASHE MAYOR SAID, MY NAME IS BEN VARNER AND I WORK HERE AT THE CITY AND THE COMMUNICATIONS DEPARTMENT AND I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF THE BETTER TOGETHER MENTAL HEALTH AND DISABILITIES EMPLOYEE RESOURCE GROUP HERE AT THE CITY. THE MISSION OF THE EMPLOYEE RESOURCE GROUP IS TO CREATE A POSITIVE AND SUPPORTIVE WORKPLACE FOR EMPLOYEES WHO ARE LIVING IN ALL MANNERS WITH CONDITIONS RELATED TO DISABILITIES AND MENTAL HEALTH BY CREATING A SAFE SPACE FOR EMPLOYEES TO RELATE ADVOCATING ,EDUCATING AND CELEBRATING THE INCLUSION OF PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES AND OR MENTAL HEALTH CONDITIONS IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. ACCORDING TO THE CDC, 1 IN 4 PEOPLE IN THE UNITED STATES IS LIVING WITH AT LEAST ONE DISABILITY EITHER PHYSICAL, NEUROLOGICAL OR OTHER DEVELOPMENTAL DISABILITY. THINK ABOUT THE PEOPLE THAT YOU INTERACT WITH ON A DAILY BASIS. A QUARTER OF THOSE PEOPLE ARE LIVING WITH A DISABILITY EITHER A PARENT OR NOT A PARENT. PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES ARE NOT LESS THAN. THEY JUST HAVE SPECIFIC NEEDS THAT SOMETIMES REQUIRE DIFFERENT ACCOMMODATIONS. AS SOMEONE WHO IDENTIFIES AS NEURODIVERGENT, I'M PROUD TO WORK FOR A CITY THAT RECOGNIZES THE CONTRIBUTIONS OF PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES AND ALLOWS FOR REASONABLE ACCOMMODATION PATTERNS AND AN EMPLOYEE RESOURCE GROUP THAT IS DOING SUCH IMPORTANT WORK ON BEHALF OF THOSE EMPLOYEES THROUGHOUT THE CITY. THANK YOU, MAYOR BUSSE AND THANK YOU COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR RECOGNIZING DISABILITY EMPLOYEE AWARENESS MONTH HERE IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. IT IS MY HONOR TO ACCEPT THIS PROCLAMATION ON BEHALF OF THE ERG. WELL THANK YOU BOTH FOR YOUR WORDS AND FOR COMING FORWARD TONIGHT AND FOR BEING ADVOCATES AND SPOKESPEOPLE ON THIS VERY IMPORTANT ISSUE. SO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. AND NOW WE HAVE TO DO THE GRIPPING GRIM PICTURE. SO THAT'S ACTUALLY WHAT YOU'RE STANDING ALREADY. OKAY. LOOKING GREAT. ONE TWO THREE. AND AGAIN. ONE TWO THREE. AWESOME. THANK YOU FOR COMING. OKAY . ITEM 2.3 ON OUR AGENDA IS THE INTRODUCTION OF A NEW EMPLOYEE. WE'VE GOT SCOTT ANDERSON FROM OUR PUBLIC WORKS DEPARTMENT HERE IS GOING TO INTRODUCE A NEW EMPLOYEE. GOOD EVENING, SCOTT. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS TONIGHT I HAVE THE PLEASURE OF INTRODUCING YOU TO KELLY DOTHAN. KELLY JOINED PUBLIC WORKS UTILITIES TEAM THIS PAST SPRING AS A CIVIL ENGINEER WORKING ON DRINKING WATER AND WASTEWATER PROJECTS FOR US. SHE'S A LICENSED PROFESSIONAL ENGINEER IN THE STATE OF MINNESOTA AND COMES TO US WITH BOTH PUBLIC SECTOR AND PRIVATE SECTOR EXPERIENCE WORKING FOR THE WASHINGTON STATE CONSERVATION CORPS, SEATTLE PUBLIC UTILITIES AND A CONSULTANT THERE AS WELL. HER PASSION FOR PUBLIC HEALTH AND ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH FUELS HER. HER DRIVE TO DELIVER DRINKING WATER AND WASTEWATER PROJECTS . AND SHE ACTUALLY HAS SOME EXPERIENCE WORKING WITH US IN THE PAST THROUGH ONE OF HER CONSULTING ENGINEER ROLES PROVIDING SERVICES FOR THE CITY. SO SHE COMES TO US WITH A GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF THE CITY'S NEEDS. CITY'S DRINKING WATER NEEDS OPPORTUNITIES AND CHALLENGES. SO SHE WAS READY TO DIVE RIGHT IN. BUT WE'RE VERY EXCITED TO HAVE KELLY HERE AND I PRESENT KELLY. >> GOOD EVENING KELLY. WELCOME. THANK YOU. IT'S A PLEASURE TO BE HERE AND SERVING THIS COMMUNITY. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TONIGHT. WE TAKE DRINKING WATER PRETTY SERIOUSLY AROUND HERE JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR. AND I THINK YOU PROBABLY KNOW THAT ALREADY SO. OH YEAH. GOOD GOOD GOOD. THANKS FOR COMING OUT TONIGHT AND THANKS FOR THE INTRODUCTION SCOTT. I DO APPRECIATE IT AND I MAKE THE POINT WITH ALL OF OUR NEW EMPLOYEES A LOT OF TIMES YOU ARE THE FACE OF THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON FOR OUR RESIDENTS IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT WAYS THEY REALLY DON'T GIVE A LOT OF TIME TO THE FOLKS UP HERE. BUT IT'S THE FOLKS THAT THEY'RE WORKING WITH EVERY DAY THAT THEY REALLY DO PAY ATTENTION TO. AND SO IT'S A BIG RESPONSIBILITY AND I HAVE NO DOUBT THAT YOU'RE UP TO IT AND NO DOUBT THAT YOU'RE GOING TO BE A GREAT REPRESENTATIVE OF THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. SO THANKS MUCH. THANKS FOR JOINING US ON CITY STAFF AND THANKS FOR BEING WITH US TONIGHT. THANK YOU. THANKS TO COUNCIL ITEM THREE ON OUR AGENDA IS OUR CONSENT AGENDA. COUNCILMEMBER HAS OUR CONSENT BUSINESS TONIGHT COUNCILMEMBER LAST CALL ANY HOLDS FOR ANYBODY? 3.1 OKAY. ONLY ONE HOLD 3.1. SO I WILL MOVE ITEM 3.2 THROUGH 3.22 AS STATED SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER TO ACCEPT THE CONSENT AGENDA AS STATED. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON. DISCUSSION ON THIS VERY QUICK SORRY THERE WAS ONE ITEM WHETHER IT WAS JUST A TYPO IN IT THAT I THINK STAFF IS WORKING TO CORRECT. IT WAS ON THE AUDITOR'S THERE WAS AN EXTRA AUDIT AND THE AUDITORS AND I THINK IT'S JUST A MINOR TYPO SO I DON'T THINK IT'S SUBSTANTIVELY CHANGES ANYTHING. SO I JUST WANTED TO KNOW THAT THAT WAS GOING TO BE SO ITEM 3.6 ME FOR THE TYPO CORRECTION AN ITEM 3.6 YEAH VERY GOOD. THAT'S ACCURATE AS NOTED. THANK YOU SO MUCH NELSON ANY ADDITIONAL COUNCIL COMMENTS ON THIS HEARING? NONE. WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND ON THE TABLE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO ITEM 3.1 I THINK THAT WAS COUNCILMEMBER PREVIOUS COUNCILMEMBER LEAVE US YES I JUST WANT TO MAKE A QUICK COMMENT IN REGARDS TO THAT TO THEM BUDGET. I KNOW IT'S A PRELIMINARY OF NINE POINT SOMETHING I GUESS BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THAT GO DOWN BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE TOOK INTO CONSIDERATION THE FACT THAT THE PORT AUTHORITY AND HRA WERE ALSO ADDING A SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF PERCENTAGE OF TAX INCREASE IN THEIR LEVIES. AND SO I WOULD LIKE TO ASK THE STAFF TO CONSIDER BRINGING THAT NINE POINT SOMETHING DOWN FARTHER DOWN TO MAKE IT PERHAPS A TOTAL OF 9.8 INCLUDING THE H GRADE AND THE PORT AUTHORITY THAT WILL BE MORE DOABLE GOALS AND HAVING YOU KNOW, 10.8 AS HE WILL BE THE TOTAL NUMBER A TOTAL INCREASE SO IF I IF I COULD ASK FOR THAT THAT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE COULD WORK IT DOWN . SO I GOT THANK THINK COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS ADDITIONAL COMMENTS ON THAT COUNCIL. >> ALL RIGHT COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO I, I WANT TO BE SURE I UNDERSTAND THE REMARKS AND THE REASON FOR HOLDING THIS THE REASON THIS IS IN THE AGENDA TO BEGIN WITH IS BECAUSE THERE WAS A TYPO ON ON THE DOCUMENTATION. RIGHT. SO HOW MANY WEEKS AGO DID WE ACTUALLY PASS THE ORDINANCE THAT PUT THE PRELIMINARY LEVY AT 9.78 OR WHATEVER IT WAS? I THINK IT'S 9.889.78 SOMETHING LIKE IT WAS 9.449.44. THANK YOU. EVEN BETTER THAN I THOUGHT AT THAT SAME MEETING OR WAS IT THE MEETING BEFORE THAT MEETING THAT WE ACTUALLY ALREADY PASSED THE PRELIMINARY LEVIES FOR THE HRA AND THE PORT AUTHORITY DO YOU REMEMBER WHICH WAS AT THE ME BELIEVE IT WAS THE PREVIOUS MEETING THAT WE THAT'S WHAT I THOUGHT THE PRELIMINARY WHAT IS THAT SO I WANT TO BE I JUST WANT TO BE CAREFUL FOR THE PUBLIC TO UNDERSTAND WE GO THROUGH THE PROCESS OF CREATING THESE AND WE DO THESE IN THE ORDER THAT WE DO THEM. SO THAT IS REALLY CLEAR TO EVERYBODY WHAT THE IMPACT IS. SO SO WE KNOW THAT THE HRA LEVY IS WHAT IT IS AND WE KNOW WHAT THE PRELIMINARY LEVY IS FOR THE PORT AUTHORITY BEFORE WE MAKE THE DECISION TO PASS THE PRELIMINARY LEVY AMOUNT FOR OUR OWN CITY BUDGET. THEY ARE INDEPENDENT BODIES. THEY GET TO MAKE THEIR OWN DECISIONS. WE CAN ARGUE THEM OR NOT AND THEN WE HAVE TO MAKE OUR OWN DECISIONS. THERE'S ALSO THE SCHOOL BOARD MAKING LEVY CHANGES. THERE IS HENNEPIN COUNTY MAKING LEVY CHANGES. THERE ARE THE WATERSHED DISTRICTS MAKING LEVY CHANGES ? YES, THERE ARE A LOT OF TAXES ON BLOOMINGTON RESIDENTS INCLUDING EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US THAT SIT UP HERE. I WANT TO BE CAREFUL THAT WE WE'RE ALL ASKING SAID ANOTHER WAY WE ARE ALL ASKING FOR THESE NUMBERS TO GO DOWN ACROSS ALL OF THE BODIES AND IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO GO TO THE SCHOOL BOARD HENNEPIN COUNTY THE THE WATERSHED DISTRICTS AND ETC. AND ASK THEM TO DO THE SAME REDUCTIONS THAT WE ARE ATTEMPTING TO DO HERE, I THINK THAT THAT WOULD BE VERY PRUDENT USE OF TIME BECAUSE WE ONLY HAVE CONTROL OVER ONE OF THOSE NUMBERS AND WE CAN DO OUR BEST. BUT IF THE OTHER NUMBERS STAY HIGH IT'S STILL HIGH FOR BLOOMINGTON RESIDENT RESIDENTS AND SO I WOULD ENCOURAGE EVERYBODY WHO IS TALKING TO ALL OF US ABOUT TRYING TO REDUCE OUR CITY LEVY TO ALSO TAKE THAT ENERGY AND PUT IT TOWARDS TALKING TO HENNEPIN COUNTY, TALKING TO THE WATERSHED DISTRICTS, TALKING TO THE SCHOOL BOARD AND TALKING YOU KNOW, TO ALL THE OTHER PLACES WHERE INCLUDING THE STATE RIGHT. TO TO TO TRY TO REDUCE THE BURDEN ON TAXPAYERS. THANKS. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER. IF I MAY RESPOND TO THAT QUICK THE REALITY SO WE ONLY HAVE CONTROL FOR OUR TAXES AT THE STATE OF THE COUNTY AND NOT THE SCHOOL BOARD. WE HAVE CONTROL OVER THE TAXES THAT WE CAN INCREASE HERE AT THE CITY LEVEL AND THAT'S WHY I MENTIONED THAT I AM AWARE THAT WE PASSED THE PRELIMINARY TAX LEVY FOR THE EIGHTH GRADE AND POOR ATTORNEY THE SAME DAY . HOWEVER WE DIDN'T MENTION IT BEFORE UNTIL THAT DAY WHEN THERE WERE NO DISCUSSIONS INCLUDING THE RAID OR THE PORT AUTHORITY BEFORE WE GOT TO THAT POINT I RECALL ACTUALLY THAT DAY MENTIONING IT AND I WAS TOLD OH WE ALREADY VOTED ON THAT. YES, I UNDERSTAND THAT. MY BAD. IF I DIDN'T MENTION ANYTHING ABOUT IT THAT DAY. BUT THE REALITY IS THAT WE ONLY HAVE CONTROL FOR THE TAXES HERE IN BLOOMINGTON. WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ABOUT THE COUNTY, THE STATE OR ANY OTHER ENTITY THAT IS OUTSIDE THE CITY. SO THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER LEMON MERRITT LIKE TO MOVE THIS. I THINK WE'VE HAD SOME GOOD CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS AND IT WILL NOT BE OUR LAST OPPORTUNITY THIS WEEK. THIS IS SIMPLY THE PRELIMINARY LEVY. WE WILL HAVE THE TRUTH AND TAXATION HEARING AND WE WILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY THEN TO HAVE THE FULL CONVERSATION ON ALL OF THIS. SO COUNCILMEMBER, PERHAPS YOU CAN MOVE ITEM FOUR POINT OR 3.1 FOR US. SURE. MAYOR MOVED TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION RESCINDING RESOLUTION NUMBER 2020 5-113 AND PRELIMINARILY ESTABLISHING TAX LEVIES FOR THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON FOR THE YEAR 2026. SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER SECOND COUNCILMEMBER LONG TO ACCEPT ITEM 3.1 AS STATED NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO I'M MOTION CARRIES SIX ONE WITH COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS IN OPPOSITION TO THE CORRECTED ITEM 3.1 CLERICAL. MOVE ON MOVING ON COUNCIL TO ITEM FOR OUR HEARINGS RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES ITEM 4.1 I THINK WHEN I WAS GOING THROUGH THE AGENDA I THINK I MENTIONED THAT THIS WAS A PUBLIC HEARING. IN FACT IT IS NOT. I APOLOGIZE FOR THE CONFUSION THERE. COUNCIL THIS IS NOT A PUBLIC HEARING. THIS IS ITEM 4.1 OUR AIRPORT PARKING STUDY ORDINANCE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT AT LENGTH IS IS THAT HONEST? IS THAT FAIR TO SAY AT LENGTH? I THINK IT IS AND THAT'S AND WE WENT THROUGH A FEW THINGS AND ACTUALLY ASKED STAFF TO BRING THINGS COUNCIL COUNSEL LET'S FOCUS IN HERE AND WE ASKED STAFF TO BRING BACK SOME RECOMMENDATIONS REGARDING THE CONVERSATIONS AND THE DISCUSSION THAT WE HAD AT THE COUNCIL MEETING WHEN WE DID BRING THIS UP. SO MR. CENTENARIO, IF YOU COULD LEAD US THROUGH THIS, WE GREATLY APPRECIATE IT, MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS THANK YOU AND WE ARE BACK WITH THE AIRPORT PARKING ORDINANCE FOR YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TONIGHT AND REALLY WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU ARE THREE DIFFERENT ORDINANCES FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION BUT I'LL OUTLINE FOR YOU YOU'VE SEEN THIS SLIDE BEFORE. WE HAVE WE'VE BEEN GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS FOR QUITE SOME TIME NOW. THERE WAS THE AIRPORT PARKING FACILITIES MORATORIUM THAT WAS ESTABLISHED IN SEPTEMBER OF LAST YEAR. WE WENT THROUGH THE AIRPORT STUDY PROCESS LOTS OF MEETINGS WITH STAKEHOLDERS, LOTS OF RESEARCH CONVERSATIONS. WE WERE BEFORE THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND YOU FOLKS IN MAY AND JUNE EARLIER THIS YEAR AND THEN WE HAD PUBLIC HEARINGS BOTH THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND CITY COUNCIL JULY, AUGUST AND SEPTEMBER. AND SO AS A REMINDER OF THE MORATORIUM THAT WAS ESTABLISHED EXPIRES ON OCTOBER 10TH. SO I WILL VERY BRIEFLY GO THROUGH JUST KIND OF A REHASH OF WHAT THE ORDINANCE IS ACTUALLY ALL THREE ORDINANCES THAT ARE BEFORE YOU INCLUDE WITH THOSE WITH SOME DIFFERENCES. FIRST OFF RELATED TO HOTEL AIRPORT PARKING REMEMBER WE SEPARATED THE ORDINANCE INTO ESSENTIALLY THREE DIFFERENT BUCKETS HOTEL, AIRPORT PARKING ,REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING IN A NEW FACILITY OR A NEW PARKING STRUCTURE. AND THEN THE THIRD WAS EXISTING REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING AND YOU CAN JUST THINK OF THAT AS EXISTING PARKING GO AND PARKING FLY FACILITIES. BUT FOR HOTEL OR PARKING WHAT WE HEARD FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION COUNCIL FROM STAKEHOLDERS IS TO ESTABLISH THIS AS A PERMITTED ACCESSORY USE. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT'S BEEN GOING ON FOR A VERY LONG TIME ALREADY SO WE JUST WANTED TO ESTABLISH THAT AS A PERMITTED ACCESSORY USE BUT THEN PUT SOME VERY BASIC PARAMETERS ON THAT. THE PROPOSED ORDINANCE ALSO ADDRESSES NEW REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING FACILITIES AND PARKING STRUCTURES AND THIS WOULD REQUIRE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND THERE ARE AGAIN SOME PARAMETERS PUT ON THE USE MUST BE WITHIN EXISTING STRUCTURE. AND THE OTHER CAVEAT IS THERE MUST BE AN EXCESS OF PARKING ESPECIALLY BECAUSE THESE STRUCTURES ARE USED FOR A VARIETY OF THINGS INCLUDING THE MALL OF AMERICA EAST RAMP FOR EXAMPLE. THESE ARE SHARE FACILITIES AND SO WE WANTED TO ENSURE THAT THERE WAS AN OBJECTIVE PROCESS TO ESTABLISH JUST HOW MUCH ACCESS THERE WOULD BE TO USE FOR BOTH OF OUR PARKING. WE ALSO HEARD FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION CITY COUNCIL THAT EVERYONE WAS COMFORTABLE WITH THIS APPROACH AND I THINK OBJECTIVELY THE MOST COMPLICATED OF THE THREE BUCKETS IS WHAT TO DO ABOUT THE EXISTING REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING FACILITIES AND THIS IS WHERE THERE'S THE DISCREPANCIES BETWEEN ARE THE DIFFERENCES BETWEEN THE ORDINANCES BEFORE YOU THE STAFF AND PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED ORDINANCE WHAT ESTABLISH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT FOR REMOTE FOR PARKING SO AS OF TODAY IT WAS INTERIM PERMIT WAS REQUIRED. SO EVERY FIVE YEARS THE FACILITIES THE OPERATORS WOULD HAVE TO COME BACK AND ASK FOR AN EXTENSION AND THAT'S HOW IT'S BEEN OPERATING FOR OVER 30 YEARS. THAT WOULD CHANGE TO A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT SO PERMANENT RIGHTS BUT IT WOULD IT AS PART OF THAT PERMANENT RIGHT TO OPERATE REMOTE OR PER PARKING OPERATORS WOULD CREATE WOULD CREATE A TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY ON THEIR SITE AT A MINIMUM OF THREE ACRES FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT BUT IT WOULD ALLOW PARKING STRUCTURES SO THEY COULD INTENSIFY THE USE THE ROOM FOR PARKING USE ON THEIR SITE AND DEFER COMPLIANCE FOR SOME OF THE SITE IMPROVEMENTS THAT WE REQUIRE ACROSS THE BOARD ACROSS ALL DEVELOPMENTS. SO THAT WAS THE STAFF AND PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED VERSION WHEN WE LAST DISCUSSED THIS THERE WAS THE CITY COUNCIL DIRECTED STAFF TO COME BACK AND JUST TO SUMMARIZE THAT ORDINANCE THERE WERE NO CHANGES FOR HOTEL OR PARKING. THERE WERE NO CHANGES FOR NEW FACILITIES THAT WOULD OPERATE REMOTE OR FOR PARKING. THE BIG CHANGE WAS FOR EXISTING REMOTE PARKING AIRPORT PARKING FACILITIES WOULD BE TO RETAIN THE INTERIM USE PERMIT REQUIREMENT UNTIL THE PARKING FLY IP EXPIRES AND THAT'S AN AUGUST OF 2027. SO ESSENTIALLY IT WOULD BE DELAYING THAT DELAYING THE PROCESS OF SORTS UNTIL AUGUST OF 2027 TO GIVE STAFF MORE TIME TO DISCUSS WITH THE STATE THE PROPERTY OWNERS LOOK AT OUR DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR THE IN OUR ZONING DISTRICTS AND IT WOULD REQUIRE ONE OPERATOR TO REAPPLY FOR AN IP EXTENSION TO MATCH THOSE EXPIRATION DATES. AND THE THIRD ORDINANCE ALTERNATIVE CAME FROM ROSA DEVELOPMENT, THE OWNER OF THE PARKING FLY SITE AND THAT WOULD REQUIRE REMOTE PARKING AS A CONDITIONAL USE BUT THEN THERE WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, EXEMPTIONS FOR FROM PARKING, LIGHTING AND LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS BUT THERE WOULD STILL BE A SCREENING REQUIREMENT. AND SO THIS IS OBVIOUSLY NOT SOMETHING THAT STAFF WAS RECOMMENDING BUT IT IS A PROPOSAL FROM ONE OF ONE OF OUR KEY STAKEHOLDERS AND WE INCLUDED IT IN YOUR PACKET MATERIALS FOR TONIGHT WE'D LIKE TO ADD THAT FOR YOU KNOW FOR THE STAFF RECOMMENDED WE WE DID RECEIVE SOME SUPPORT FROM AN EXISTING OPERATOR OF THE PARKING GO FOLKS THEY DID EXPRESS THEIR SUPPORT FOR STAFF'S VERSION OF OR THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED VERSION BUT THOSE ARE THE THREE OPTIONS IT'S NOT AS CLEAR AS WE LIKE TO PRESENT TO YOU. WE USUALLY LIKE TO PRESENT ONE OPTION FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION BUT AS WE ALL KNOW THIS IS AN EXTREMELY COMPLEX LAND USE ISSUE. THANK YOU MR. CENTENARIO SO COUNCIL AS I SAID THIS WAS A LENGTHY DISCUSSION THE LAST TIME WE TALKED AND I THINK WE WE CAN AGREE ON THE FIRST TWO ISSUES THAT WE HAD TALKED ABOUT THE HOTEL AIRPORT PARKING NO CHANGES FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE STAFF RECOMMENDED ORDINANCE THE REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING NEW FACILITIES AGAIN NO CHANGES FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE STAFF RECOMMENDED ORDINANCE AND THEN WE GET TO WHAT WHAT WE GAVE THE DIRECTION TO STAFF TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE EXISTING AIRPORT PARKING TO RETAIN THEM AS AN INTERIM USE FOR EXISTING FACILITIES TO LINE UP THOSE TO EXPIRATIONS AND THEN CONTINUE TO WORK WITH OPERATORS ON A MUTUALLY AGREEABLE SOLUTION. I KNOW WE'VE HAD WE'VE HAD A COUPLE OF OTHER IDEAS COME FORWARD, A COUPLE OF POSSIBILITIES. COUNSEL I WOULD APPRECIATE SOME FEEDBACK ON THIS WHERE WE THINK WE WANT TO GO FROM MY PERSPECTIVE I THINK WHAT WE LAID OUT PRETTY CLEARLY IN OUR LAST COUNCIL MEETING WAS THE DIRECTION WE WERE LOOKING TO GO IN UNLESS WE WANT TO TRY AND CRAFT THIS OR PUT THIS TOGETHER DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT LAST TIME AND DIFFERENT THAN WHAT THE STAFF HAS BROUGHT FORWARD. I THINK THIS MIGHT BE THE DIRECTION WE'D WANT TO GO AND MOVE FORWARD WITH BUT I'D BE CURIOUS TO HEAR COUNCIL'S FEEDBACK ON THIS. COUNCILMEMBER LOGAN YOU KNOW THERE I CERTAINLY AM INTERESTED IN THAT THIRD PROPOSAL AND DIVING INTO THAT ALTHOUGH I DON'T YOU KNOW WE KIND OF JUST HAVE IT HERE FRIDAY SO I'M A LITTLE BIT NERVOUS ABOUT TRYING TO YOU KNOW WORDSMITH AND GET SOMETHING ROLLING IN TONIGHT'S MEETING. BUT YOU KNOW IF CERTAINLY OTHER FOLKS THAT ARE THERE AND WILLING TO KIND OF MOVE THIS I'M CERTAINLY WOULD BE OPEN TO THAT BUT I WANT TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT, YOU KNOW, MAKING A DECISION, YOU KNOW, RIGHT HERE AT THE DAIS IF WE'RE NOT ALL ALL THERE ESPECIALLY SINCE THE LAST CONVERSATION ON THE 15TH . COUNCILMEMBER CARTER THANK YOU MAYOR. SO I JUST HAVE A CLARIFYING QUESTION FROM STAFF'S PERSPECTIVE WITH THE KIND OF THIRD PROPOSAL FROM ROSA BE MOST IN LINE WITH OPTION THREE IN THAT CHART THE CONDITIONAL USE WITH NO. TWO LIMITED CONDITIONS. YEAH. MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS YES OR NO? YES. BECAUSE IT WOULD STILL REQUIRE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT BUT IT'S A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WITHOUT MUCH TEETH BECAUSE IT WOULD SPECIFICALLY EXEMPT THE USE FROM MOST OF THE DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS THAT WE HAVE. SO IT WOULD SPECIFICALLY EXEMPT ANY SORT OF LIKE PARKING ISLANDS TO BE REQUIRED WITHIN THE FACILITY THAT WOULD EXEMPT LIGHTING. I DON'T THINK THAT'S MUCH OF AN ISSUE BECAUSE THEY ALREADY HAVE WHAT I BELIEVE IS CODE COMPLYING LIGHTING BUT YOU KNOW WHENEVER YOU HAVE REALLY BROAD EXEMPTIONS LIKE THAT THAT MAKE STAFF UNCOMFORTABLE AND YOU KNOW IF THERE'S A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT THAT YOU CAN'T REALLY ATTACH ANY CONDITIONS TO IT, YOU MIGHT AS WELL MAKE IT A PERMITTED USE. HOW WOULD IT BE DIFFERENT FROM THE CURRENT INTERIM THAT THEY HAVE? I ASSUME THERE'S THERE'S PERFORMANCE STANDARDS WITH THE INTERIM MISS MAYOR COUNCILMEMBERS THERE REALLY HASN'T BEEN MANY PERFORMANCE STANDARDS WITH THROUGHOUT THE INTERVIEWS PERMIT PROCESS AND THE REASON THE REASON FOR THAT IS THE THOUGHT THAT THESE ARE INTERIM USES THAT EVENTUALLY THEY'RE GOING TO REDEVELOP AND THAT REDEVELOPMENT IS GOING TO MEET OUR STANDARD PERFORMANCE STANDARDS THAT WE HAVE IN THE ZONING CODE. AND SO IT IS THE PROPOSED APPROACH FROM ROSA DEVELOPMENT IS ACTUALLY CONSIDERABLY DIFFERENT FROM OTHER OPTIONS BECAUSE IT REALLY REVERSES REVERSES THE CITY'S POLICY APPROACH TOWARDS REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING FOR THE LAST 35 YEARS WHICH IS THAT THIS IS AN INTERIM USE IT SHOULD REDEVELOP IN A COMPLIANT FASHION AT SOME POINT AND IT WOULD GIVE PERMANENT RIGHTS WITHOUT ANY SUBSTANTIAL IMPROVEMENTS FROM A DEVELOPER PERSPECTIVE. OKAY. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO. AND AGAIN GOOD EVENING. JUST A QUICK FOLLOW UP TO COUNCILMEMBER CARTER'S QUESTION ON THAT FRONT. THE THE IN IN THE OPTIONS FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE THAT'S BEING PLACED ON IT IS TO THE PORTION THAT'S NOT BEING SET ASIDE FOR DEVELOPMENT CORRECT ? IS THAT HOW IS THAT HOW LIKE IF YOU THINK ABO THE WAY THAT C WORKS OUT COMES WHATEVER WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED ORDINANCE I'M TALKING ABOUT THE THE STAFF COULD GO BACK TO SEE IT THERE . >> YEAH SO MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT WE WERE DOING A CONDITIONAL USE WITH WITH SOME CONDITIONS WAS THE PROPOSAL THAT WAS PUT IN FRONT OF YOU ALL RIGHT BY THE ROSA DEVELOPMENT FOLKS AND YOU WERE JUST EXPLAINING TO COUNCILMEMBER CARTER THAT HOW IT DIFFERS FROM WHAT YOU HAVE IN THE BOLD HERE DO I HAVE AM I CORRECT ON THAT FRONT? THAT'S CORRECT. OKAY. THE ROSA DEVELOPMENT PROPOSED ORDINANCES SUBSTANTIALLY DIFFERENT FROM WHAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDS. RIGHT. OKAY. SO MY MY MY QUESTION WAS AND IF FORGIVE ME IF I'VE GOT IF I'M IF I'M MIXING MY METAPHOR OR MY MIXING MY CONDITIONS HERE IS THAT THE THE PERFORMANCE STANDARD FOR THE EXISTING ING FACILITY WAS ONLY GOING TO BE FOR THE PORTION OF THE PROPERTY THAT WASN'T GOING TO BE REUSED. CORRECT. LIKE WASN'T THERE WASN'T THERE ARE TWO PARTS TO THIS WHOLE THING. >> YEAH. OKAY. YEAH. LET ME LET ME RHETORIC OKAY GREAT. MR. MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS SO IN THE PLANNING COMMISSION PROPOSED ORDINANCE THERE WAS A IN THE CODE PROPOSED LANGUAGE IT WAS CALLED A DEVELOPMENT SET ASIDE SO IT WOULD SET ASIDE THREE ACRES FOR FUTURE DEVELOPMENT AND THAT WOULD CREATE AN OPPORTUNITY FOR DENSE TRANSIT ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT CONSISTENT WITH THE ZONING CODE THAT WE HAVE TODAY. SO THERE'S THAT THREE ACRE PIECE. THESE THESE FACILITIES ARE OVER 12 ACRES SO THE REMAINDER OF THAT REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING FACILITY COULD PRESUMABLY REMAIN AIRPORT PARKING THROUGH A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AND OPERATE AS IT HAS BEEN IN PERPETUITY OR THEY COULD ALSO DENSIFY THE PARKING SUPPLY THROUGH STRUCTURED PARKING ON THAT SITE BUT THEY WOULD HAVE A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT TO THAT WOULD BE A PERMANENT APPROVAL FOR REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING. OKAY. AND IF I RECALL THEN THE CONVERSATION THAT COUNCILMEMBER NELSON HAD WITH US JUST TRYING TO TIE THESE THINGS TOGETHER, ONE OF THE COMMENTS THAT WAS MADE THERE ABOUT PROVIDING OR REQUIRING A SET OF PERFORMANCE STANDARDS WAS IF OUR GOAL WAS TO GET THE THE THE AREA DEVELOPED AND USING USING THE MARKET CONDITIONS OR THE YOU KNOW, BENEVOLENCE OF THE OWNER OR WHATEVER WE WANT TO COMBINE TOGETHER INCLUDING BUILDING STRUCTURED PARKING IT WOULD BE A LITTLE BIT SILLY IF YOU WILL TO ASK FOR A BUNCH OF OF COMPLIANT STANDARDS ONLY TO RIP IT ALL OUT IN ORDER TO BUILD A STRUCTURE PARKING IF I REMEMBER THAT CONVERSATION AS WELL AND I DON'T MEAN TO PUT WORDS IN YOUR MOUTH COUNCILMEMBER NELSON BUT SUBSTANTIVELY THAT'S WHAT WE'RE SAYING. SO I GUESS WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND AND MAYBE MAYBE FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS CONVERSATION THIS IS WHY THIS NEEDS MAYBE THIS PORTION NEEDS TO COME BACK TO US ONE MORE TIME NICE AND CONCISE IS TO SAY I THINK THAT IF EVERYBODY IS KIND OF WILLING IN ALL WE'RE REALLY TALKING ABOUT HERE IS WHAT PERFORMANCE STANDARDS CAN EVERYBODY LIVE WITH TO TO INTO TO YOUR POINT JUSTIFY THE CONDITIONAL USE VERSUS MAKING IT A PERMANENT USE THEN I'M OPEN TO THAT DIALOG BUT I WOULD ALSO THINK THAT WE'D WANT TO CONSIDER FOR FOR THE FAIRNESS OF IT ALL NOT TO ASK THEM TO DO STUFF THAT FIVE MINUTES LATER THEY'RE GOING TO RIP OUT BECAUSE THEY'VE DECIDED TO GO STRUCTURED PARKING IF THEY TRY TO DO SOMETHING ELSE. SO THAT'S KIND OF GENERALLY SPEAKING IF VERY LONG WINDED WAY OF SAYING PULLING ALL THOSE THREADS TOGETHER CAN CAN WE CAN WE COME UP WITH A WAY TO TO BRING THAT BRING THIS PORTION BACK TO US WITH WITH THAT WRITTEN DOWN IN SUCH A WAY THAT THE TEAMS SEEM THAT THEY CAN WORK TOGETHER? THAT'S AN OPEN QUESTION I GUESS MAYBE NOT TO BE CONTINUED. >> I DON'T KNOW AND THAT'S I THINK WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TONIGHT IS TERMS OF HOW WE WANT TO APPROACH THIS OR CONTINUE WITH THIS. SO YEAH, YES COUNCILMEMBER LOHMANN I'LL JUST SAY I, I AGREE WITH THE COUNCILMEMBER THERE. I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE BEST FOR US TO COME BACK ON THIS, MAKE SURE WE'RE ALL ON THE SAME PAGE SO I DON'T KNOW THAT WE NEED TO KEEP TALKING. WE'VE GOT A LOT ON OUR AGENDA SO I THINK IT'S BEST WE COME BACK. I'D BE HAPPY TO I'LL STOP HERE. I'M NOT JUST STAND BY COUNCILMEMBER LAMENT COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YEP. THANK YOU, MAYOR. MY ONLY CONCERN ABOUT COMING BACK IS IS HOW WE DO THAT BECAUSE WE DO HAVE THE MORATORIUM ENDING AND ONE PROVIDER WITHOUT ANY TYPE OF PERMIT AT THE END OF THAT. SO WE STILL NEED TO CLEAN THAT UP AND ADDRESS THAT. I THINK THERE WERE SOME THINGS THERE AND I'D JUST LIKE TO THANK THE PARTIES BECAUSE I THINK THEY'RE WORKING TO GET MUCH CLOSER IN TERMS OF WHERE WE WANT TO GO. COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO DID SUMMARIZE MY COMMENTS LEAST PORTION OF THEM ACCURATELY THAT IN MY MIND IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO PUT PARKING ISLANDS AND THINGS LIKE THAT IN A REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING LOT FOR TWO REASONS ONE IT DISCOURAGES THE REDEVELOPMENT TO JUST TEAR IT OUT. SECOND, IT'S NOT LIKE GOING TO YOU KNOW, TARGET OR SOMETHING WHERE YOU KNOW, THIS IS IN OUR COMMUNITIES OR WHERE THERE'S PEOPLE ARE PARKING AND GOING TO AN AIRPORT I DON'T CARE WHAT THE PARKING LOT LOOKS LIKE. THEY JUST WANT IT TO BE AFFORDABLE AND GET TO THE AIRPORT. AND SO, YOU KNOW, THE SCREENING PROPOSAL MAKES SENSE THAT OKAY, IF IF THE COMMUNITY DOESN'T WANT TO SEE THIS. THE OTHER THING THAT I WOULD JUST LIKE TO SAY IS I WOULD LIKE TO SAY SEE SOMETHING WITH A LITTLE BIT MORE TEETH INTO WHATEVER PART GETS DEVELOPED. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE STRUCTURED PARKING EVENTUALLY AS A SOLUTION FOR OFF AIRPORT PARKING. THE PART I WANT TO GET RID OF IS THE SURFACE PARKING AND I DON'T WANT TO DESTROY THEIR BUSINESS. I WANT TO SEE A PATHWAY TO GET THE DENSIFICATION AS MUCH OF THAT SITE AS POSSIBLE TO BUILD STRUCTURE PARKING FOR THE REVENUE AND INCOME SOURCE TO HELP SUPPORT WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO ON THAT SITE. AND SO AGAIN I THINK WE'RE A LOT CLOSER. I JUST DON'T QUITE THINK WE'RE RIGHT THERE SO APOLOGIZE TO MAKING PEOPLE KEEP COMING TO OUR MEETINGS. IT'S GOOD TO SEE ALL THE PLACES. COUNCILMEMBER FOR YOU MAYOR I WAS READY TO MOVE ON THIS LAST TIME. I'M I'M NOT GOING TO BE SUPPORTING THIS. I FOR ME I WOULD HAVE JUST MADE IT PERMANENT USE MOVED ON AND IT MIGHT TAKE 30 YEARS BUT IT MIGHT BE WHATEVER IT TAKES IS WHEN IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN WHEN THE MARKET'S RIGHT. SO THAT'S WHERE I'M AT. THANKS, COUNCILMEMBER LOGAN AND I WILL POINT OUT TO COUNCILMEMBER NELSON'S POINT SO THE ORDINANCE THAT HAS BEEN DRAFTED IT ADDRESSES THE AUP APPROACH SO IT FITS IN THERE SO IT CHANGES THE EFFECTIVE DATE AND SO IT DOES WORK. SO WE'RE NOT GOING TO BE SOMEBODY HANGING WHICH YEP. SO THAT WAS MY ONLY QUESTION AT THE END. SO THIS IS WHAT WE GOT RIGHT HERE. I THINK WE'RE READY TO GO WITH THIS HERE AND I CAN GO AHEAD AND COUNCILMEMBER LOGAN MOVED TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE MODIFYING THE USE ALLOWANCES AND PERFORMANCE STANDARDS TO FOR REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING AND HOTEL AIRPORT PARKING USES THERE BY AMENDING CHAPTER 21 OF THE CITY CODE MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWE AND SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO TO ADOPT THE ORDINANCE MODIFYING USES USE ALLOWANCES AND PERFORMANCE STANDARDS FOR REMOTE AIRPORT PARKING AND HOTEL AIRPORT PARKING USES THEREBY AMENDING CHAPTER 21 OF THE CITY CODE. ANY FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS HEARING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED NO MOTION CARRIES 522 WITH COUNCIL MEMBER MOUA AND WHO IS THE SECOND NO OVER THERE I MISSED IT. AND COUNCILMEMBER REAVIS? NO. SO 5 TO 2 IT PASSES COUNCILMEMBER LOGAN SOME REPUBLICATION IF YOU COULD PLEASE CAN YOU BRING THAT BACK UP HERE? SORRY ABOUT THAT. THAT'S RIGHT. I JUST DON'T WANT TO READ THE WRONG ONE. OH, MY APOLOGIES. SURE IT RIGHT ACTUALLY THIS IS ALL WE HAVE ON THE MOTION. SAME HERE. SO I'LL GO AND READ THIS HERE. SO I'LL MOVE A RESOLUTION DIRECTING SUMMARY PUBLICATION OF THE ORDINANCE MODIFYING USE ALLOWANCES AND PERFORMANCE STANDARDS FOR AIRPORT PARKING AND HOTEL AIRPORT PARKING USES THERE BY AMENDING CHAPTERS 21 OF THE CITY CODE MOST MY COUNCILMEMBER LOHMANN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO FOR SUMMARY PUBLICATION AND ITEM 4.1 NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO THANK YOU MR. CENTENARIO AND WE WILL SEE YOU AGAIN ON THIS. AND SO IF SHE WILL THANK YOU COUNCIL WE'LL MOVE ON TO ITEM 4.2 WHICH IN FACT IS A PUBLIC HEARING THIS TIME ITEM 4.2 IS REGARDING THE VACATION OF PUBLIC DRAINAGE UTILITY SIDEWALK AND BIKEWAY EASEMENTS OVER AND ACROSS LOT ONE BLOCK ONE CREEKSIDE CENTER OUTLETS AND BE GETTING POND SIX OF THE ADDITION AND PART OF THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE SOUTHWEST CORNER OF SECTION 16 TOWNSHIP 27 RANGE 24 HENNEPIN COUNTY MISS LONG GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. THIS ONE IS FAIRLY STRAIGHTFORWARD. AS FOR THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER IT WAS VACATING THE EASEMENTS THAT YOU HAVE FOR THE PLANT THAT YOU APPROVED BACK IN AUGUST. COUNSEL ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? QUESTIONS OF AS LONG NO QUESTIONS. VERY GOOD. DON'T GO FAR BECAUSE I WILL OPEN THE PUBLIC HEARING NOW ON ITEM 4.2 PUBLIC HEARING ON OPEN IS IS OPEN ON IN 4.2 IS THERE ANYONE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO ITEM 4.2 TONIGHT? PRIYANKA DO WE HAVE ANYONE ONLINE OR ON THE PHONE? MAYOR WE DO NOT HAVE ANYONE ON LINE LAST CALL FOR ANYBODY IN THE CHAMBERS TO SPEAK TO ITEM 4.2 COUNSEL NO ONE COMING FORWARD, NO ONE ON THE PHONE OR ONLINE WISHING TO SPEAK TO 1 IN 4 POINT TWO I LOOK FOR A MOTION TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING SOME SECOND MOTION MY COUNCILMEMBER SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON UNDER 4.2 NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING COUNCIL AS I'M AS LONG SAID THIS IS PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS OR ANYTHING ELSE I LOOK FOR MOTION AND ACTION ON IT AND 4.2 I'M HAPPY WITH THEM HERE. COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU MAYOR I MOVED TO ADOPT AN ORDINANCE APPROVING THE APPLICATION OF PUBLIC DRAINAGE UTILITY SIDEWALK AND BIKEWAY EASEMENTS OVER AND ACROSS THAT ONE BLOCK OR IN CREEKSIDE CENTER LOTS AND BE GIDEON POND SIXTH EDITION AND PART OF THE NORTHWEST CORNER OF THE SOUTHWEST CORNER SECTION 16 TOWNSHIP 27 RANGE 24 HENNEPIN COUNTY, MINNESOTA MOTION MY COUNCILMAN REMOVE A SECOND MY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO TO ACCEPT ITEM 4.2 AS STATED NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO THANK YOU VERY MUCH WE WILL MOVE ALONG COUNCIL ITEM FIVE OUR ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS AND WE WILL MOVE TO ITEM 5.1. THIS IS A STUDY ITEM REGARDING COMMERCIAL VEHICLES IN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS. >> MR. MORROW GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME. GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS TODAY MY NAME IS DARLENE NAVARRO AND TODAY I'M GOING TO BE TALKING ABOUT COMMERCIAL VEHICLES IN RESIDENTIAL DISTRICTS. SO THE ZONING CODE LIMITS WHAT TYPE OF COMMERCIAL VEHICLES AND TRAILERS CAN BE PARK OR STORE IN RESIDENTIAL ZONES AND THERE HAS BEEN AN INCREASE OF ENFORCEMENT ENFORCEMENT CASES ISSUED BY THE ENVIRONMENTAL DIVISION AS THE SIZE AND HEIGHT OF COMMERCIAL VEHICLES AND TRAILERS CONTINUE TO CHANGE OVER TIME AND THE GOAL OF THIS PROJECT IS TO ENSURE THAT CURRENT STANDARDS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE TYPE OF COMMERCIAL VEHICLES USE OR WANT IT TO BE USED IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND AT THE SAME TIME INCREASING THE OPPORTUNITY TO SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESSES WHO WHO MAY NEED TO STORE THE WORK RELATED VEHICLE AT THEIR RESIDENCE. SO THE CURRENT CODE ALLOWS TYPE ONE BECAUSE THESE ARE BASICALLY UP TO EIGHT FEET IN HEIGHT AND 22FT IN LENGTH TYPE TWO VEHICLE THESE ARE TAXIS LIMOUSINES SNOWPLOWS EQUIPPED VEHICLES THAT ARE THE SAME SIZE AS TYPE ONE AND THEN WE ALLOW TRAILERS UP TO SIX FEET IN HEIGHT AND 8.5FT IN LENGTH FOR THEM. >> NUMBER WE ALLOW FOR VEHICLES TO BE A STORE OUTSIDE OF A GARAGE OR AT A SINGLE FAMILY OR 2 OR 2 FAMILY DWELLING UNIT AND FOR TRAILERS WE ALLOWED ONE TRAILER TO BE A STORE ON A RESIDENTIAL LOT OUTSIDE THE GARAGE. SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT THE CODE DOESN'T PROHIBIT ALL COMMERCIAL VEHICLES OR TRAILERS. IT JUST DEPENDS ON HOW BIG THEY ARE AND WHETHER THEY'RE CLASSIFIED II AS NONRESIDENTIAL AND SOME EXAMPLES OF NON RECESSION VEHICLES WILL BE CARGO TRUCKS, FLATBEDS AND STEP BANDS AS STAFF CONDUCTED COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT THROUGH TABLING AT THE BLOOMINGTON PRIDE EVENT WHERE WE ASKED RESIDENTS IF THEY FEEL THEY FELT THAT THESE COMMERCIAL VEHICLES ARE APPROPRIATE TO BE A STORE OR PARK IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND THEY ANSWER TO THE QUESTIONS BY PLACING A STICKER WHERE THEY FEEL IT WAS APPROPRIATE AND YES NO OR MAYBE WITH RESTRICTIONS. A PUBLIC SURVEY WAS ALSO MADE AVAILABLE ON THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON LIST PAGE FROM JUNE 26TH TO JULY 31ST WE RECEIVED TEN RESPONSES AND THE REPORT WAS INCLUDED IN THE AGENDA PACKET. SO THE MAIN TAKEAWAYS FROM THE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT IS THAT RESIDENTS SUPPORT AND WANT MORE FLEXIBILITY SINCE THEIR VEHICLES ARE ESSENTIAL FOR WORK AND ESPECIALLY THOSE A SMALLER TO MEDIUM SIZED SPACE EQUALS. THEY ALSO STRESSED THE VEHICLES SHOULD BE WELL KEPT AND NOT BLOCK ANY VIEWS OR DRIVEWAYS AND THEY ALSO WANT CLEAR AND SIMPLE RULES SO EVERY AREA EVERYBODY UNDERSTAND WHAT IT WHAT IT'S ALLOWED. AND SOME RESIDENTS SHARE CONCERNS ABOUT COSTS AND INCONVENIENCE WHEN B EQUALS CAN BE PARK AT HOME SOMETIMES THEY HAVE TO RENT OFF STORAGE AND IT COULD BE EXPENSIVE AND TIME CONSUMING AND LESS EFFICIENT FOR THEM. SO IN 2020 FOR THE BLOOMINGTON'S ENVIRONMENTAL HOLD THE VISION ISSUED ABOUT 280 VIOLATIONS FOR PARKING AND STORING COMMERCIAL VEHICLES OR TRAILERS IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS. MOST OF THESE VIOLATIONS HAPPENED BECAUSE THE VEHICLES WERE TOO TALL, TOO LONG OR NOT ALLOWED IN THE RESIDENTIAL AREAS AS WE CAN SEE IN THE CHART HERE, THE BIGGEST PROBLEM WAS THE OVERSIZE TRAILERS WITH OVER HALF THE CASES 141 VIOLATIONS. BUT AGAIN THE MAIN TAKEAWAY FROM THESE DATA IS THAT MANY OF THESE VEHICLES ARE TIED TO A SMALL BUSINESSES AND TRADESPEOPLE WHICH CHOSE A CHALLENGE OF A BALANCED NEED FOR WORK VEHICLES AND CITY CODE RULES. SO THIS IS A STUDY ITEM NO FIRM NO FORMAL ACTUALLY IS REQUIRED AT THIS TIME AND IF DIRECTED BY THE CITY COUNCIL AN ORDINANCE WILL BE DRAFTED AND PRESENTED LATER THIS YEAR . SO I'M LOOKING FOR INPUT AND GUIDANCE ON THESE KEY THINGS. SO WHAT HIDE AND LANDS LIMITS DO YOU FEEL THAT ARE APPROPRIATE FOR COMMERCIAL VEHICLES AND TRAILERS IN RESIDENTIAL AREAS? HOW MANY TRAILERS AND COMMERCIAL VEHICLE SHOULD BE ALLOWED FOR RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES? HOW SHOULD THE ORDINANCE ADDRESS VEHICLES WITH WORK RELATED ATTACHMENTS AND SHOULD THE ORDINANCE INCLUDE A SPECIFIC SCREENING OR SETBACK REQUIREMENTS? AND AGAIN WE PRESENTED A PLANNING COMMISSION AS A STUDY ITEM A FEW WEEKS AGO AND HIGHLIGHTED ON THE SCREEN YOU CAN SEE THE FEEDBACK THAT WE GATHER FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION . THANK YOU VERY MUCH COUNCIL THIS PROVES MORE THAN ONCE AGAIN THAT IF YOU HANG AROUND LONG ENOUGH ISSUES COME BACK AROUND BECAUSE I REMEMBER THIS CONVERSATION ABOUT 12 YEARS AGO 11, 12, 13 YEARS AGO. I'M NOT EVEN SURE WHAT WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT COMMERCIAL VEHICLES IN RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS AND IT WAS THAT'S WHEN WE CAME UP WITH THE RECOMMENDATIONS OR WHEN WE CAME UP WITH THE ORDINANCE THAT YOU SEE IN FRONT OF YOU HERE OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE IT REFLECTED THE THE CONVERSATION AT THE TIME. IT REFLECTED THE ATTITUDES OF THE TIME AND THE REALITIES OF WORK AT THE TIME. AND I THINK THAT'S REFLECTED MORE THAN ANYTHING IN THE FACT THAT WE INCLUDED TAXIS IN THERE AND I BELIEVE THERE ARE TWO TAXI LICENSES LEFT IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON RIGHT NOW NOT TO TAXI COMPANIES. THERE ARE TWO TAXI LICENSES TOTAL IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON SO IT'S OBVIOUS THAT THE WORLD HAS CHANGED AND I THINK ATTITUDES MAY OR MAY NOT HAVE CHANGED. BUT I THINK THE JUST THE WORLD OF WORK HAS CHANGED AND I THINK THIS IS A WORTHWHILE DISCUSSION. AS MR. NAVARRO SAID, THERE'S NO WE'RE NOT COMING TO A DECISION SLIDE. SHE'S LOOKING FOR FEEDBACK ON WHAT WE THINK ABOUT THIS AND THIS I'M SURE, WOLF, I'M SURE WILL BE PART OF A PUBLIC HEARING AS WE EVENT IF WE DECIDE TO MAKE ANY CHANGES TO THIS ORDINANCE. SO THOUGHTS ON THIS COUNCIL IDEAS COUNCIL MEMBER NELSON YEAH. THANK YOU, MAYOR. JUST QUICKLY, I REALLY APPRECIATE THE WORK OF STAFF AND TAKING A LOOK AT THIS. I KNOW WE'VE HEARD FROM MANY PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY THAT HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT IT AND I WANT TO BE CLEAR THAT MY MY MAIN FOCUS ON THIS IS THOSE FOLKS THAT WORK IN A BUSINESS THAT HAS A VEHICLE THAT THEY USE IT TO GET HOME THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO PARK THERE. I THINK IT GOES A LITTLE BIT TOO FAR TO ALLOW PARKING OF MUCH LARGER VEHICLES JUST FOR STORAGE FOR A BUSINESS BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANOTHER LOCATION. I THINK IN MY MIND I DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHERE TO CUT THAT LINE. I THINK THE MODERATE PART THAT YOU PUT FORWARD MAKES SENSE TO ME. BUT THIS I DON'T THINK IS AN OPPORTUNITY TO OPEN UP, YOU KNOW, BUSINESS STORAGE OF VEHICLES IN THEIR DRIVEWAY . IT'S FOR PEOPLE THAT NEED A VEHICLE TO GET TO AND FROM WORK THEY YOU KNOW, MAYBE ARE IN THE TRADES OR OR SOMETHING ELSE. YOU KNOW, THEY DRIVE FOR A LIVING, TRY PEOPLE FOR A LIVING AND ABLE TO GET TO AND FROM WORK SO THAT THAT'S WHERE MY THOUGHT PROCESS IS. I DO THINK THE OTHER THING THAT'S CHANGED SINCE YOU KNOW ,IT WAS DONE BEFORE IS VEHICLES ARE GETTING HUGE HERE. LIKE I REMEMBER WE COULD BUY A PICKUP TRUCK AND GET INTO IT WITHOUT A LADDER LIKE YOU KNOW SO I MEAN IT'S SO IF THEY'VE CHANGED A LITTLE BIT AND I THINK BUT I THINK IT'S PERFECTLY REASONABLE THAT A PERSON CAN TAKE THEIR BUSINESS VEHICLE HOME AND DO THAT. I KNOW THE MAYOR AND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO THE OPENING AT HERE OLD PLUMBING AND HEATING WHEN THEY OPENED THEIR BLOOMINGTON LOCATION AND WE CHATTED WITH THEM ABOUT QUITE A NUMBER OF THINGS. BUT ONE OF THE THINGS IS THEY ALLOW THEIR WORKERS TO TAKE THEIR COMPANY VEHICLE HOME AND I'M CONCERNED THAT RIGHT NOW THAT MEANS YOU CAN'T LIVE IN BLOOMINGTON AND WORK AT A BLOOMINGTON COMPANY. SO THAT THAT IN MY MIND DOESN'T MAKE SENSE. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M DRAWING THE LINES IN TERMS OF OF VEHICLES AND SIZES AND HEIGHTS AND THINGS LIKE THAT. LET'S MAKE IT FOR FOR WORKERS AND EMPLOYEES LIKE ME TO USE THAT OR THE SMALL BUSINESS OWNER IT MIGHT BE THEIR MAIN VEHICLE. I GREW UP WITH THAT WITH MY FATHER SO THANK CAN'T REMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO AND COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS. >> COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I AGREE WITH WITH COUNCILMEMBER NELSON'S POINT. I MEAN I THINK I THINK WE KNOW ONE REMOTE WORK IS MORE POPULAR. PEOPLE ARE WORKING FROM HOME AND TWO PEOPLE ARE ARE USING EITHER THEIR PERSONAL VEHICLES FOR WORK OR ARE GETTING WORK VEHICLES THAT THEY CAN BRING HOME. AND I THINK THAT IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE SUPPORT THAT WE WANT HEALTHY WORKING PEOPLE TO BE IN BLOOMINGTON. ABSOLUTELY. AND I KNOW THAT WE'VE HAD COMPLAINTS EVEN IN THE YOU KNOW, SHORT TIME I'VE BEEN ON COUNCIL THAT THAT FOLKS HAVE COME IN HAVE COMPLAINED THAT LIKE HEY, IF I LEAVE MY FAMILY MY YOU KNOW, WORK VEHICLE AT THE LOT, IT CAN GET BROKEN INTO. I MEAN WE HAD THE RASH OF CADILLAC CONVERTERS THREATS ,YOU KNOW, THEFTS. A LOT OF THE ONES THAT WERE HIT WERE REMOTE WERE COMMERCIAL VEHICLES LEFT ON LOT AND A BIG WAY THAT PEOPLE WERE TRYING TO ADDRESS THAT WAS BRING THE BRING THE VEHICLES HOME SO THAT THEY COULD, YOU KNOW, HAVE BETTER VIEW OF THEM AND THAT KIND OF THING. SO SO I THINK THAT SOLVING FOR THAT MAKES A LOT OF SENSE. I WILL SAY THAT LIKE I'M I'M A LITTLE BIT A LITTLE BIT MORE SO THE VEHICLE THING IS ONE THING THE TRAILER THING IS ANOTHER. I THINK THE TRAILER THING FOR ME IS A LITTLE BIT MORE CHALLENGING. I THINK IF WE HAVE SETBACKS AND ALL I'M ALSO I'M ALSO THE ONE THAT'S UP HERE SAYING BETWEEN THE THE MONTHS OF APRIL AND OCTOBER WE SHOULD BE A LOT MORE LENIENT ABOUT RECREATIONAL VEHICLES THAN WE ARE DURING THE WINTERTIME BECAUSE I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY WE PENALIZE PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN SMALLER LOT AREAS FROM THEY CAN'T HAVE A 40 FOOT RV THAT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE TO ME OR MAYBE THEY CAN BUT NOT 42. I CAN'T REMEMBER WHAT IT IS BUT I LIKE THE IDEA THAT THAT WE HAVE SOME STANDARD WHEN SOME FOLKS HAVE A QUARTER MILE LONG DRIVEWAY AND SOME FOLKS HAVE A 30 FOOT DRIVEWAY AND WE, YOU KNOW, PENALIZE DURING THE SUMMERTIME. SO I'M GOING TO BE AS LENIENT AS I POSSIBLY CAN BUT I ALSO HAVE NEIGHBORS AND PEOPLE IN MY AREA WHO ARE IN MY OPINION ABUSING THE THE YOU KNOW, THE IDEA THAT IF IT'S ON YOUR IF IT'S ON YOUR PROPERTY AND IT'S IN YOUR FRONT YARD, IT CAN BE IT CAN LOOK AND BE WHATEVER IT IS AND IT IT DOESN'T MATTER. SO I'D BE FOR SCREENING I'D BE FOR LIMITS ON TRAILERS AND I'D BE FOR OVERALL LIMIT ON THE ON THE NUMBER OF VEHICLES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT ARE OBVIOUSLY COMMERCIAL USE. OTHER THAN THAT, I WANT PEOPLE TO FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT THEY CAN GET TO AND FROM THEIR HOUSE AND TO THEIR WORKPLACE AND THAT THEY CAN DO PRODUCTIVE WORK FOR THE CITY BLOOMINGTON, ITS RESIDENTS. SO I'M NOT GOING TO BE TOO MUCH MORE RESTRICTIVE ON THAT FRONT OPINION THANKS COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS. YEAH, I'M I'M I'M GENERALLY IN SUPPORT OF PEOPLE HAVING AT LEAST A TRAILER IN THERE. I HAPPEN TO HAVE FIVE NEIGHBORS WITHIN A COUPLE OF BLOCKS THAT DO BUSINESS SOME TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION OR GARDENING AND THEY NEED TO AS LONG AS THEY DON'T PARKED TRAILERS AND TRUCKS ON THE STREETS AND THEY USE THEIR DRIVEWAYS I'M FINE WITH THEM HAVING AT LEAST ONE TRAILER AND THEIR TRUCK PARKED THERE. I THINK IS VERY DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO PARK ANYWHERE OTHER THAN IN THEIR HOUSE BECAUSE THEY HAVE ALL THEIR EQUIPMENT IN THEIR TRAILERS AND IT'S USUALLY VERY EXPENSIVE. I HAVE SPOKEN TO EVERY ONE OF THEM ACTUALLY AND THEY ALL COMPLAIN THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN ISSUING CITATIONS TO THEM AND WHERE ALSO THEY'RE GOING TO PUT DIRT. THEY'RE WORKING TRUCK AND TRAILER. I DO BELIEVE THAT WE SHOULD ALLOW MORE THAN ONE TRAILER. I KNOW THEY GET A LITTLE BIG AT LEAST THE ONES THAT I KNOW I HAVE ANYWHERE 20, 25FT LONG. WE SAW BUT I LIKE IF I WERE IN THE SAME BUSINESS I HAPPEN TO HAVE A VERY LONG DRIVEWAY SO WE DON'T HAVE ANY ISSUE WITH THAT. BUT I MEAN I, I THINK ONE TRAILER SHOULD BE ALLOWED FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT OWN THEIR OWN BUSINESS AND HAVING TO HAVE A TRAILER AND A TRUCK TO PUT IN THERE AS LONG AS HE GOES IN THE DRIVEWAY. I DO HAVE AN ISSUE WITH THEM PARKING ON THE STREETS AND BECAUSE IT CREATES A PROBLEM IS OUR STREETS IN THE NEIGHBORHOODS ARE NOT THAT WAY TO HAVE TWO CARS PARKED ON BOTH SIDES OF THE STREET. SO BUT I THINK WE DO NEED TO BE LEAN IN WHEN IT COMES TO BUSINESS OWNERS PARKING THEIR OWN VEHICLES IN THEIR OWN DRIVEWAYS. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER. LET'S REMEMBER MORE EXCUSE ME MORE YOU. THANK YOU, MAYOR. YOU KNOW WHEN IT COMES TO PARKING I'M I'M A VERY LIBERTARIAN PROPERTY RIGHTS PERSON. I FRANKLY DON'T CARE WHAT MY MY NEIGHBORS PUT IN THEIR YARDS AS LONG AS THEY'RE NOT SPILLING OIL INTO MY YARD, POISONING THE AIR INTO MY YARD. DO WHAT YOU WANT TO DO. YOU WORK YOUR OFF TO BUY THIS HOUSE AND THE CITY AND YOUR NEIGHBORS ARE PUTTING ALL THESE RESTRICTIONS ON YOU. AND SO THAT'S MY PERSONAL VIEW ON IT JUST SO EVERYONE KNOWS WHEN IT COMES TO QUANTITIES I'M REALLY EXCITED THAT WE HAVE THE UNLIMITED VEHICLES ON THIS ONE. I RECENTLY LITERALLY THREE WEEKS AGO JUST SPOKE TO A NEIGHBOR WHO JUST GOT CITED BECAUSE THEY HAVE SIX CARS. HE HAS HIS WIFE, HIS CAR, TWO OF HIS KIDS CAR AND HAS BROTHER AND HIS BROTHER'S WIFE HAD TO MOVE IN BECAUSE THEY LOST THEIR HOUSE. THEY WORK OVERNIGHTS SO AT CERTAIN POINTS IN TIME THEY HAVE SIX CARS IN THEIR DRIVEWAY AS PEOPLE ARE TRANSITIONING AND TO PUNISH PEOPLE TO GIVE THEM CITATIONS BECAUSE THEY'RE DEALING WITH THINGS. WE'RE SEEING HOW FAMILIES ARE CHANGING I DON'T THINK IS RIGHT IS NOT A VALUE THAT WE HOLD HERE IN BLOOMINGTON. FAMILIES CHANGE, THINGS CHANGE, TIMES CHANGE. SO I REALLY APPRECIATE HAVING THE UNLIMITED VEHICLES PIECE HERE. THE THING I'M REALLY WONDERING ABOUT IS DO WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO PUT A TIME COMPONENT AND ANY OF THESE THINGS WORK HAS CHANGED SO PEOPLE ARE BRINGING IT HOME. SO I WOULD EXPECT CARS ARE COMING HOME AT 5:00. THEY'RE LEAVING AGAIN AT SEVEN EIGHT IN THE MORNING. WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEE THEM ALL DAY. SO WHAT'S THE DAMAGE OR HURT THAT IT'S GOING TO DO IF THEY'RE PARKED OVERNIGHT WHEN EVERYONE'S SLEEPING ANYWAYS AND IF THEY'RE USING IT FOR WORK, THE TIME IS GOING TO BE YOU KNOW, OVER THE WEEKEND THAT IS GOING TO BE PARKED IN THEIR DRIVEWAY FOR 48 HOURS. IS THERE A TIME COMPONENT THAT WE COULD ADD TO THIS OR THAT PEOPLE DON'T GET PENALIZED FOR JUST COMING HOME FROM WORK AND GOING TO WORK IN THE MORNING? THE SECOND THING IS IF THIS IS FOR WORK FOR YOUR BUSINESS, WHETHER YOU WORK FOR A COMPANY OR FOR YOURSELF, IS THERE A WAY FOR US TO HAVE THEM REGISTER WITH THE CITY SO THAT AS WE HAVE INSPECTORS OUT THERE THEY'RE LOOKING FOR WHAT'S ON THE ORDINANCES AND WHAT'S IN THE CODE THEY CAN REVIEW AND SAY OH THIS THIS HOUSE THIS PERSON IS REGISTERED SAYING I HAVE TO PARK THIS OVERSIZE VEHICLE IN MY DRIVEWAY BECAUSE THIS IS MY JOB. THIS IS WHAT I DO. SO THOSE ARE THE TWO THINGS I'M REALLY PARTICULARLY INTERESTED IN THE TIME COMPONENT PIECE OF IT AND REGISTRATION JUST TO HELP US EASE THE BURDEN. THANKS. AND LET'S REMEMBER A THANK YOU MAYOR SO YOU KNOW, AS I AS I LOOK AT THIS AND I'LL WORK MY WAY DOWN THIS THIS LIST THAT YOU HAVE HERE SO YOU'LL HAVE SOME COMMENTS DIRECTLY ON THAT. BUT AS I LOOK AT THIS OVERALL, YOU KNOW, WE'VE KIND OF YOU KNOW THIS THIS COUNCIL'S MADE KIND OF A SHIFT WHEN WE MADE OUR CHANGES WITH THE WITH THE RV'S AND AND SO I RECOGNIZE THAT CHANGE THAT WE'VE MADE. AND SO ONE OF THE QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE AS I KIND OF LOOK AT THIS IS YOU KNOW, WHAT IS THAT IMPACT IF I'VE GOT AN RV, YOU KNOW, IN MY MY LOT OR ON MY YOU KNOW ON ONE SIDE BEING BASICALLY STORED THERE AND THEN THEN I'LL ADD THIS COMMERCIAL TRUCK THERE THEN PLUS THOSE OTHER VEHICLES THERE WHAT DOES THAT KIND OF VISUALLY LOOK LIKE AND THEN YOU KNOW, WHY WERE THOSE STANDARDS AND SO I WOULD THINK FROM A OVERALL PERSPECTIVE IF WE CAN KEEP THESE COMMERCIAL VEHICLES, YOU KNOW, TO BE A LITTLE BIT SMALLER THAN THAT, THAT WOULD BE KIND OF WHAT I WOULD BE LOOKING TO TRY TO TRY TO DO THAT AND I RECOGNIZE THAT THAT DOESN'T REALLY FUTUREPROOF THIS AT ALL BECAUSE IT'S CERTAINLY GOING TO GET A LOT BIGGER AS THINGS GO ALONG WITH THE ELECTRICAL TYPE STUFF THAT GO ALONG WITH THAT. AND SO MY FIRST CONCERN THAT I LOOK AT IS AND THEN I'LL RUN DOWN THIS LIST HERE IS WHEN WE TALK ABOUT SAFETY AND SIDE OBSTRUCTIONS I'M JUST CONCERNED ABOUT WHEN YOU HAVE THOSE THERE YOU'RE TRYING TO TURN THOSE CORNERS WHERE YOU HAVE THOSE CORNER LOTS OR YOU HAVE THE SMALLER LOTS AND WHEN YOU HAVE SIDEWALKS THERE WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR THAT? SO I'M REALLY CONCERNED WHEN YOU ADD BOTH TO RV OR WHAT IF YOU HAVE A SINGLE YOU KNOW, KIND OF LEAN AND THEN YOU GOT TO ADD THAT ON TOP OF THAT WITH YOUR RV AND THERE SO THOSE ARE THE THINGS I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT YOU KNOW, AS WE EXPAND THESE THINGS THAT WE'RE REALLY KIND OF KEEPING THAT IN MIND WITH THE OBSTRUCTION PART OF IT. NOW THE NEIGHBORHOOD CHARACTER I TALKED ABOUT THAT EARLIER IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW, I THINK YOU KNOW, THINGS ARE CHANGING NOW. PEOPLE ARE MORE MUCH MORE ACCEPTING AND BLOOMINGTON OF OF OF THESE TYPES OF THINGS. AND SO I THINK WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO THINK ABOUT THAT AND CERTAINLY VISUAL CLUTTER AND ESTHETICS YOU KNOW IF WE DON'T HAVE GARAGES AND THAT KIND OF THING YOU CAN'T REALLY STORE THOSE THINGS THERE AND THEN I'M ALSO VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THE QUANTITY AND PARKING. I KNOW THAT'S BEEN YOU KNOW, A CONCERN IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I'M IN OTHER NEIGHBORHOODS AND OUT THERE WHERE YOU HAVE YOU KNOW, SEVERAL OF THESE YOU KNOW WHEN YOU KNOW IF YOU HAVE EIGHT OR 9 OR 10, WHAT'S THE UPPER LIMIT OF THAT AND WHERE IT BECOMES A YOU'RE STORING FOR A BUSINESS PURPOSE AND NOT REALLY FOR A PERSONAL AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT LINE IN THE LIST. SO THEN SO AS I LOOK AT THESE SIZE LIMITS, YOU KNOW I YOU KNOW I GUESS I'M SOMEWHERE YOU KNOW PERSONALLY I'D LOVE TO SEE IT MORE STRICT BUT I THINK IN TERMS OF WHERE WE'RE GOING MAYBE IT'S SOMEWHERE BETWEEN THE MODERATE AND THE LESS RESTRICTIVE, YOU KNOW BUT I WANT TO KEEP AN ACCOUNT THOSE OF THE RV TYPE STANDARDS I WOULD ASK STAFF TO KIND OF LOOK AT THAT AND THEN FROM A FROM A QUANTITY STANDPOINT, YOU KNOW, I JUST AGAIN I'M VERY CURIOUS ABOUT WHERE THAT THAT FITS OVERALL IN TERMS OF HOW MANY EXTRA IN ADDITION WHERE IT DOESN'T BECOME YOU KNOW WHAT IF YOU ARE RUNNING A BUSINESS OUT OF YOUR YOU KNOW, OUT OF YOUR HOUSE AND THEN YOU DECIDE TO STORE THEM, WHAT PROTECTIONS WOULD OUR OUR OR WHAT OUR ENVIRONMENTAL FOLKS HAVE FROM DOING THAT? YOU KNOW, I MEAN SO THAT'S KIND OF THE QUESTION I KIND OF HAVE WHILE I HAVE SOME OF THESE THINGS HERE OH YEAH, I'M SLEEPING AT NIGHT. NOBODY'S SEEING IT BUT THEY'RE YOU KNOW THE STORE ON THE OH YOU KNOW ON ALL THE SIDEWALKS AND EVER WORK IN THAT AREA SO I'D BE OPEN TO THE YOU KNOW THAT THAT MAX COMMERCIAL VEHICLE AND UP TO TWO TRAILERS OR MAYBE TWO COMMERCIAL VEHICLES BUT BUT I DON'T KNOW ABOUT THAT LIMITED VEHICLE THING THAT THAT THAT SCARES ME FOR FOR VARIOUS REASONS IN TERMS OF ENFORCEMENT HOW DO YOU STOP THAT? MAYBE THERE'S SOMETHING LESS THAN THAT WE DO FROM THE THE ATTACHMENT I THINK I'M THERE WITH THE YELLOW IT'S THERE AND THEN FROM A SCREENING AND SETBACKS I THINK THAT WE HAVE KIND OF ELIMINATED THAT REALLY WHEN WE DID THE RV KIND OF PIECE THAT WE DON'T REALLY NEED TO SCREEN FOR THAT BECAUSE OF THE SEASONALITY. I THINK THAT'S KIND OF THE DIRECTION WHERE WE'RE GOING. SO I PERSONALLY WOULD LOVE TO SEE FULL SCREENING BUT IT JUST DOESN'T MAKE A LOT OF SENSE IN TERMS OF WHERE WE'RE GOING. SO I THINK THAT THAT NONE OR THAT MODERATE SETBACKS FOR SURE WANT TO SEE THAT TO PROTECT THE JUST THE SAFETY PART OF IT. SO THANKS. COUNCILMEMBER CARTER THANK YOU MAYOR. I HAVE A CLARIFYING QUESTION. SO FOR THE UNLIMITED VEHICLES PLUS UP TO TWO TRAILERS, IS THAT TRULY UNLIMITED VEHICLES OR UNLIMITED COMMERCIAL VEHICLES WITHIN OUR FOUR VEHICLE LIMIT? >> MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS SO HOW WE WERE THINKING ABOUT THIS PROJECT WE'RE ONLY THINKING ABOUT COMMERCIAL VEHICLES SO YEAH IT WILL BE FOR UNLIMITED FOR COMMERCIAL VEHICLES. OKAY. SO TO YOUR POINT COUNCIL IT WOULDN'T BE LIKE COMPLETELY UNLIMITED JUST UNLIMITED COMMERCIAL WITHIN THE FOUR. OKAY. I WAS CONFUSED AFTER THAT SO THANK YOU FOR CLARIFYING THAT . SO I WOULD SAY I WOULD I'M PERSONALLY IN SUPPORT OF MORE OF THE MODERATE OPTION. YOU KNOW, OBVIOUSLY I WANT PEOPLE TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, DO WHAT THEY WANT ON THEIR PROPERTIES BUT AT THE SAME TIME WE HAVE TO KIND OF BALANCE THAT RIGHT WITH SAFETY AND ESTHETICS AND ALL OF THAT BECAUSE WE KNOW WE WILL STILL GET COMPLAINTS FROM PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES OF THE ISSUE. I WOULD SAY AS IT RELATES TO THE SOME OF THE OTHER IDEAS THAT HAVE BEEN BROUGHT UP LIKE HAVING MAKING VEHICLES REGISTER OR HAVING TIME COMPONENTS, I WOULD NOT WANT TO INCLUDE THAT. I FEEL LIKE IT PROBABLY WOULD OVERCOMPLICATE IT AND MAKE IT I THINK IT WOULD BE A LOT TO MANAGE FROM A STAFF PERSPECTIVE BECAUSE I CAN ONLY IMAGINE HOW MANY VEHICLES THAT WOULD BE THAT PEOPLE WOULD BE REGISTERING AND I JUST DON'T THINK WE COULD GET TO A HIGH NUMBER OF COMPLIANCE. SO THERE AND WOULD NOT BE SUPPORTIVE WITH ON STREET PARKING OF THE VEHICLES I AM TOTALLY FINE WITH THE COUNTING THE ONLY THE PERMANENT FIXTURES AND FOR THE QUANTITIES I THINK I WOULD BE MORE IN LINE. I THINK I WOULD ACTUALLY BE FINE WITH THE UNLIMITED WITHIN THAT FOR VEHICLE CONSTRAINT OVERALL. SO THAT'S KIND OF WHERE I'M AT. THANK YOU. I ALSO DO WANT TO THANK YOU FOR THAT COMMITTEE ENGAGEMENT YOU DID. IT WAS FUN LOOKING AT THE DOT STICKERS AND SEEING WHERE PEOPLE WERE AT IN TERMS OF THEIR OWN KIND OF PERSONAL FLEXIBILITY. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER. I'LL JUST FINISH BY SAYING HOWEVER WE DO IT I THINK MODERATE IS BETTER THAN ONE SPECTRUM, ONE END OF THE SPECTRUM OF THE OTHER. I THINK TO MAKE IT CONSIST AND AND UNDERSTANDABLE ENFORCEABLE SO WE DON'T PUT OUR WE DON'T PUT OUR RESIDENTS IN A BAD POSITION AND WE DON'T PUT OUR COMMUNITY HEALTH PEOPLE IN A BAD POSITION EITHER. WE JUST WE MAKE IT UNDERSTANDABLE AND AND JUST KEEPING ME IN MIND AS COUNCILMEMBER CARTER SAID THEN THERE'S THAT BALANCE BETWEEN THE NEEDS OF THE RESIDENTS AND THE ESTHETICS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE NEIGHBORS SHOULD SHOULD NOT HAVE TO STARE AT SOMEBODY'S TRUCK ALL THE TIME. SO I MEAN THERE'S THERE'S GOT TO BE A BALANCE IN THERE SOMEWHERE BUT I THINK WE'VE GOT IT WE'VE GOT A GOOD START AND I THINK WE HAVE PROVIDED THE FEEDBACK WE MIGHT NEED TO MOVE FORWARD ON THIS. >> YEAH. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THE FEEDBACK. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH MR. MAYOR. REALLY COUNCILMEMBER WE'VE GOT THREE MORE ITEMS O TONIGHT AND WE'RE ALREADY GOING LONG ON THIS ONE. I THINK SO IS IT A VERY QUICK QUESTION? WELL, THANK YOU. IT'S NOT A QUESTION. IT'S A COMMENT THAT ONE OF THE SUGGESTIONS I MIGHT HAVE FOR THEM AS THEY CONTINUE TO GET FEEDBACK IS THAT WE KNOW THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN IN VIOLATION OF THIS AND WE KNOW THE NEIGHBORHOODS IN WHICH THEY LIVE HAVING COMMUNITY CONVERSATIONS WITH THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN AFFECTED BY THIS DIRECTLY MIGHT BE A GREAT WAY FOR US TO GET TO AN UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WAS COMPROMISE THAT PEOPLE CAN LIVE WITH. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. THANKS. OUR NEXT ITEM 5.2 IS A SECOND STUDY ITEM THIS REGARDING OUR ANNUAL MISCELLANEOUS ISSUES ORDINANCE AND WE HAVE SPENT THIS YEAR. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS. SO YES I AM HERE TO TALK ABOUT MISCELLANEOUS ISSUES. IT IS THAT TIME OF THE YEAR AGAIN SO JUST IN CASE YOU NEED A REFRESHER. MISCELLANEOUS ISSUES ORDINANCE IS KIND OF A HODGEPODGE OF DIFFERENT ORDINANCES THAT DON'T REQUIRE TO BE TO GO THROUGH THE WHOLE PUBLIC HEARING PROCESS AS AN INDIVIDUAL WORK PLAN ITEM. SO WE KIND OF COMBINED THESE AND THERE'S A MIXTURE OF JUST KIND OF GRAMMATICAL ERRORS OR THINGS MISSING A COMMA AND THEN SOME MINOR POLICY CHANGES AS WELL. JUST KIND OF TWO NOTES. SO LAST YEAR WE DID NOT HAVE A STUDY SESSION FOR COUNCIL FOR MISCELLANEOUS ISSUES AND SO WE WANTED TO BRING IT BEFORE YOU THIS YEAR SO THAT YOU HAVE A CHANCE TO LOOK AT THESE BEFORE IT GOES TO A PUBLIC HEARING. AND THEN ALSO I SAID THAT WE HAVE CLEAN UP ITEMS AND POLICY CHANGE ITEMS. I JUST WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT THOSE HOW WE DECIDE ON THOSE DO GO THROUGH MULTIPLE LEVELS OF REVIEW INCLUDING THROUGH THE PLANNING AND LEGAL STAFF. SO TIMELINE WE WENT TO PLANNING COMMISSION FOR A STUDY SESSION ON SEPTEMBER 18TH AND THEN FOR PUBLIC HEARINGS WE ARE LOOKING TO HAVE A PUBLIC HEARING AT PLANNING COMMISSION IN OCTOBER AND AT COUNCIL IN NOVEMBER. I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH ALL THE CLEANUP ITEMS BECAUSE THERE'S LIKE 25. SO I JUST LISTED A FEW EXAMPLES ON THIS. SOME INCLUDE LIKE REMOVING REFERENCES TO AIRPORT SOUTH WHICH IS NOW KNOWN AS A SOUTH LOOP. AND THEN AGAIN IT COULD JUST BE ADDING A COMMA OR THAT AN OR WAS MISSED AS FAR AS POLICY CHANGE ITEMS GO. THEY ARE LISTED ON THIS TABLE OF CONTENTS AND SORRY ABOUT THE LETTER AND WE'LL FIX THAT BEFORE THAT COMES BEFORE YOU AT A PUBLIC HEARING. BUT I THINK IT WILL BE BEST TO JUST GO THROUGH ONE BY ONE AND THEN SEE IF YOU HAVE COMMENTS AND IF YOU DON'T HAVE COMMENTS ON SOME OF THEM THAT'S OKAY TOO. WE CAN JUST FLY THROUGH IT. SO ORDINANCE Y THE EXTERIOR LIGHTING SECTION OF THE CODE NEEDS TO BE UPDATED TO SPECIFY WHEN LIGHTING PLANS ARE REQUIRED. NOT EVERY PROJECT THAT INVOLVES THE INSTALLATION OF LIGHTING SUCH AS A GROUND SIGN FOR EXAMPLE NECESSITY IT'S A COMPREHENSIVE PHOTOMETRIC PLAN. ADDITIONALLY STAFF PROPOSES ADDING A STATEMENT ABOUT MAINTENANCE OF LIGHTING TO ENSURE LIGHTING IS KEPT IN GOOD REPAIR. SO AS WE GO THROUGH THE THE DISCUSSION ON EACH OF THESE IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING JUMP IN OR IF YOU THINK IT MAKES SENSE GIVEN A NOT IN THE SMILE I THINK REQUIRING LIGHTING TO BE IN GOOD REPAIR I THINK IS A GOOD IDEA. THANK YOU. SO ORDINANCES ALLOWING MULTIFAMILY AND COMMERCIAL ZONING DISTRICTS. SO THIS CAME FROM A PROJECT THAT I BELIEVE WAS BEFORE YOU IN THE SPRING THE OFFICE CONVERSION STUDY. AND SO AS PART OF THAT STUDY YOU ALL ENDORSED A RECOMMENDATION TO ALLOW MULTIPLE FAMILY RESIDENTIAL USES WHEN COMBINED WITH MINIMUM LEVELS OF NON RESIDENTIAL FLOOR AREA. AND THE DISTRICTS THAT ARE LISTED BELOW LOOKS GOOD. LOOKS GOOD EVERYBODY. ALL RIGHT. ORDINANCE A. SO AS PART OF THE STREAMLINE IN DEVELOPMENT PROJECT WHICH AGAIN CAME BEFORE YOU IN 2024 I THINK WE ESTABLISHED THE PROCESS FOR APPEALING A VARIANCE DECISION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION. BUT FORGOT TO ADD THAT TO THE CODE AND THE APPEAL PROCESS FOR THAT SHOULD INCLUDE A PUBLIC HEARING AT COUNCIL. AND THEN ADDITIONALLY THERE'S A PROCESS FOR APPEALS TO CERTIFICATES OF APPROPRIATENESS BUT NO FEE. THE FEE SHOULD BE 20 OR $20 WHICH IS MIRRORING OTHER A FEE APPEAL FEE COSTS AND THIS CLEANING UP THOSE OVERSIGHTS. SO MY QUESTION ON THIS IS IS A PROPOSAL TO CREATE AN APPEAL PROCESS THROUGH A PUBLIC HEARING OF THE CITY COUNCIL DOES THAT DOES THAT REALLY FIT UNDER THE SCOPE OF WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT HERE UNDER THE MISCELLANEOUS CLEANUP KIND OF THINGS? THIS IS A THIS THAT I THINK WOULD BE A POLICY CHANGE WE MIGHT WANT TO HAVE A COME I A CONVERSATION ABOUT MAYOR. SO ARE YOU REFERRING TO THE FIRST BULLET POINT CREATE AN APPEAL PROCESS. SO WITH THAT ONE I BELIEVE WE ALREADY DID THAT BUT JUST HADN'T LIKE PHYSICALLY WRITTEN IT IN THE CODE OR REFERRED TO PLANNING MANAGER JOHNSON. MR. DAVIDSON THANK YOU MAYOR AND MEMBERS. THE REASON THAT THIS ONE IS FLAGGED FOR A POLICY CHANGE IS ACTUALLY BECAUSE OF THE APPEAL PROCESS FOR THE CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS. I CAN'T RECALL US GETTING A APPLICATION FOR A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS DURING MY TENURE. THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT IT DOES NOT COME UP. THERE ARE A LOT OF HISTORIC SITES IN BLOOMINGTON BUT EMILY'S CORRECT ACTUALLY THE CHANGES BEING PROPOSED HERE RELATED TO THE VARIANCE APPLICATION IS JUST MIRRORING WHAT'S IN THE PROCEDURAL ELEMENTS OF A VARIANCE. YOU CAN APPEAL A VARIANCE DECISION BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION TODAY IT'S JUST NOT PROPERLY REFLECTED IN THE TABLE. BUT THE REASON WHY THIS IS FLAGGED AS A POLICY CHANGE ITEM IS THAT THE PROPOSED CHANGE TO THE PROCESS TO APPEAL A CERTIFICATE OF APPROPRIATENESS WOULD NOT INCLUDE A PUBLIC HEARING AT CITY COUNCIL. IT WOULD JUST BE APPEALING THE PLANNING COMMISSION DECISION AT COUNCIL WHICH DOES INCLUDE A PUBLIC HEARING AND THEN A DIRECT ACTION BY YOU ALL WITHOUT A FORMAL PUBLIC HEARING. THAT DOESN'T MEAN FOLKS COULDN'T ADD PUBLIC COMMENT OR PROVIDE WRITTEN CORRESPONDENCE IT'S JUST FOREGOING THE PUBLIC HEARING FOR THE APPEAL ONLY THAT MAKES SENSE. THANK YOU FOR THAT. IT'S THAT THAT MAKES MORE SENSE. THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS FROM COUNCIL THEN? ALL RIGHT. >> OKAY. ORDINANCE BE FOR A GARAGE HEIGHT LIMITS SO CURRENTLY THE CODE FOR ACCESSORY STRUCTURES DOES NOT ALLOW A GARAGE OR ACCESSORY STRUCTURE TO BE TALLER THAN THE PRINCIPAL DWELLING. THIS LIMITATION CAN BE CHALLENGING FOR RAMBLER HOMES WHICH WE HAVE A LOT OF IN BLOOMINGTON THAT ARE LOWER IN HEIGHT. SO STAFF IS PROPOSING A MAXIMUM OF 15FT ESTABLISH FOR EXCESS NECESSARY STRUCTURES AND GARAGES THAT ARE EXCEEDING THE HEIGHT OF THE HOME. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON MY QUESTION ABOUT THIS ONE IS WHAT IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO PUT USABLE SPACE LIKE NOT FULL SECOND STORY BUT A BUILT OUT ATTIC UP THERE WITH A HIGHER PITCHED ROOF? WOULD THIS OPEN THAT OPPORTUNITY UP? I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S GOOD OR BAD. I JUST THINK THAT THERE MIGHT BE MORE POLICY CONSIDERATIONS. >> MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER NELSON SO IF IT'S LIVABLE SPACE IT WOULD HAVE TO MEET SETBACKS REQUIRED FOR LIKE THE DWELLING. SO I GUESS YES IF THE GARAGE HAS THE REQUIRED IF IT'S FROM THE SIDE PROPERTY LINE A TEN FOOT SETBACK THEN IT COULD BE LIVABLE SPACE ABOVE THE GARAGE. DOES THAT KIND OF ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YEAH, TO A CERTAIN EXTENT AND I'M NOT SURE I'M LOOKING EVEN FOR JUST, YOU KNOW, LIVABLE SPACE BUT LIKE IF YOU WANTED TO CONVERT IT JUST FOR STORAGE IF YOU HAD BUT FRANKLY WE HAD A CLIENT THAT HAD A BUNCH OF HUGE REINDEER AND SO WE BUILT A NEW GARAGE AND HE PUT ALL THOSE REINDEER UP THERE AND SOME OTHER THINGS UP THERE. SO YOU KNOW, WOULD THIS ALLOW FOR THAT? AND AGAIN, I'M NOT SAYING THAT'S GOOD OR BAD. I MEAN IT WAS GOOD FOR ME. I GOT TO BUILD THAT GARAGE SO BUT YOU KNOW, IT WOULD IT COULD BE SIGNIFICANTLY TALLER THAN A RAMBLER SO THAT THAT'S MY ONLY CONCERN ON THIS ONE OF THE THOUGHTS ON THIS COUNCIL COUNCIL MEMBER LAMENT YEAH I DON'T I MEAN THE THE 15FT I KNOW IT'S A MAXIMUM OF THAT 15FT BUT I'M JUST CURIOUS HOW WE GOT TO THAT AND I CAN JUST THINK OF SOME CIRCUMSTANCES WHERE THAT'S EITHER NOT ENOUGH OR WHILE I MEAN COMPARISON YOU KNOW WHAT HAPPENS WITH THE COMPARISONS WITH THE REST OF THE YOU KNOW, THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT'S THERE. SO I GUESS YOU KNOW MY OPINION I WONDER IF IT'S LEFT UP TO THE DISCRETION OF THE PLANNING DIRECTOR OR SOMETHING OF THAT DEGREE. YEAH. MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS SO THANKS FOR THE QUESTION. THE SCENARIO THAT YOU DISCUSSED, COUNCILMAN NELSON IS EXACTLY KIND OF WHAT BROUGHT US TO THIS SITUATION IN THE FIRST PLACE IS THAT WE HAVE SOME HOMES IN BLOOMINGTON THAT ARE SAY 13.5FT TALL AND WE WOULD GET A PERMIT IN THE QUEUE FOR A NEW GARAGE AND THEY WANT TO HAVE THAT A LITTLE BIT HIGHER PITCH SO THEY CAN GET THAT STORAGE UP THERE AND THEN WE INFORM THEM THAT YOUR GARAGE IF DETACHED OR YOUR SHED CANNOT BE TALLER THAN YOUR PRINCIPAL HOME. AND SO WHAT THIS WOULD ALLOW FOR IS JUST GAINING THAT LITTLE EXTRA FEET AND HEIGHT. IT SEEMS VERY SMALL AND KIND OF NOT A BIG DEAL BUT IT DOES CUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN GETTING THAT STORAGE AREA UP AND IN THE TOP OF THE GARAGE VERSUS NOT WHY 15FT BECAUSE 15FT IS THE MAX HEIGHT OF OUR ACCESSORY STRUCTURES. NOW TODAY ALTHOUGH THEY'RE ALSO NOT ALLOWED TO EXCEED THE HEIGHT OF THE PRINCIPAL DWELLING. SO THIS REALLY IT'S NOT A SIGNIFICANT CHANGE BUT IT WILL ALLOW PEOPLE TO CONSTRUCT GARAGES AND ACCESSORY STRUCTURES IN A WAY THAT WILL OFFER THAT STORAGE AREA THAT THEY DESIRE AND WILL AND SHOULD BE NOT DISCERNIBLE TO THE NAKED EYE. I MEAN WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A FOOT AND A HALF IN THE CASE OF THIS RAMBLER EXAMPLE, IT REALLY WILL NOT STAND OUT FROM A VISUAL STANDPOINT THAT THE DETACHED GARAGE IS SLIGHTLY TALLER THAN THE HOME IN EFFECT. SO I'M ASSUMING THAT BY THEIR RESPONSE THAT YOU'RE NOT CONCERNED ABOUT THE NEIGHBORING WITH THAT LITTLE BIT OF DIFFERENCE. WE ARE NOT THE STAFF BUT FOR ME THE COUNCIL MEMBER NELSON JUST VERY QUICK SO JUST WHAT ABOUT THE REVERSE SITUATION IF SOMEONE HAS A TWO STORY HOME, ARE THEY NOW LIMITED TO 15FT? SO SORRY MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER NELSON THE MAXIMUM OF YOU CAN'T EXCEED THE HEIGHT OF THE DWELLING SO IT DEPENDS ON AGAIN LIKE THE SETBACK YEAH, YEAH YOU WOULDN'T BE LIMITED TO 15FT. YEAH I WAS ON THIS ONE AND IT DOES DEPEND ON THE SETBACK AND ORDINANCE DEED SO THIS IS PROPOSING AND REMOVING THE STANDARD FOR ARCHITECTURAL RULE UNITY FOR COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS. SO CURRENTLY THE CODE REQUIRES THAT NONRESIDENTIAL STRUCTURES CONSTRUCTED ON THE SAME SITE MUST MATCH ARCHITECTURAL STYLE COLOR SCHEME AND BUILDING MATERIALS. STAFF BELIEVES THAT REQUIRING ARCHITECTURAL UNITY FOR COMMERCIAL BUILDINGS SHOULD BE REMOVED FOR A COUPLE OF REASONS ONE BECAUSE IT LIMITS DESIGN FLEXIBILITY AND TWO KIND OF RELATED TO THAT CREATES AN UNNECESSARY BURDEN ON THE DEVELOPER AS FAR AS PLANNING COMMISSION DISCUSSION WENT. PLANNING COMMISSION WAS GENERALLY IN SUPPORT OF THIS. ONE MEMBER MENTIONED KEEPING SOMETHING ABOUT BUILDINGS ON THE SAME SITE NEEDING TO BE COMPLEMENTARY. DIDN'T WE JUST HAD THIS DISCUSSION REGARDING EXTERNAL TRASH ENCLOSURES WHERE WE INSISTED THAT THEY BE SIMILAR TO THE EXISTING STRUCTURE? YEAH THAT'S CORRECT. SO ONE THING I'D POINT OUT IN TERMS OF THE DIFFERENCE OF THAT IS THAT A TRASH ENCLOSURE IS SERVING ANOTHER COMMERCIAL BUILDING. WHAT THIS PROVISION ACTUALLY APPLIES TO IS WHEN YOU HAVE A PLAN DEVELOPMENT, YOU HAVE MULTIPLE SITES OVER HERE AT OXBURGH FOR EXAMPLE, YOU'LL NOTICE THE NEW BANK THAT WAS CONSTRUCTED ON 98TH STREET EFFECTIVELY MATCHES THE RETAIL SHOPPING CENTER BEHIND IT AND THAT WAS THIS ARCHITECTURAL UNITY PROVISION SPECIFICALLY THAT DICTATED THAT THEY MATCH IN MATERIALS AND COLOR TO AN EXTENT. AND SO SOMETHING THIS WAS ACTUALLY A CHANGE PROACTIVELY RAISED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION NOT BY STAFF IN SO MUCH AS THAT THERE WAS CONCERN THAT SOME OF THESE TYPES OF REQUIREMENTS CAN BE SOMEWHAT SUBJECTIVE AS WELL AS LIMIT THE BRAND OR DESIRED DESIGN ESTHETIC OF FOLKS DEVELOPING NEW BUILDINGS IN BLOOMINGTON WHEN YOU HAVE MULTIPLE BUILDINGS ON ONE SITE. SO THAT'S KIND OF THE BACKGROUND. SO WE'RE NOT NECESSARILY BEING IN WE'RE NOT CONTRADICTING OURSELVES IS WHAT YOUR THOUGHT IS YOU WOULD NOT BE MAYOR OKAY. AND THOUGHTS ON THIS? COUNCILMEMBER LAMENT YEAH, I WANT TO HAVE THIS ONE CARVED OUT SO I CAN VOTE AGAINST IT. I MEAN I, I GET THE IDEA BUT I WANT TO HAVE MORE CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS BUT I MEAN I SEE WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO AND IT'S A GOOD IDEA BUT I'M JUST NOT THERE WITH THIS WHERE THIS IS RIGHT NOW SO I'D BE MY COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS JUST ONE QUICK QUESTION IF HYPOTHETICALS FIT IN THIS THE SAME AREA. RIGHT. IF SOMEBODY WANTED TO BUILD SOMETHING IN THERE THEY WOULDN'T BE REQUIRED TO MAKE IT LOOK THE SAME. YEAH. SO I WOULD BE KIND OF ADDING THERE IN THAT AREA I GUESS. I MEAN IT'S KIND OF NICE THAT THE BANK OF AMERICA MADE IT LOOK THAT WAY. I THINK I WILL BE FINE IF IT HAPPENED IN OTHER PLACES BUT IN THAT AREA IF THERE WERE SOME DEVELOPMENT YOU KNOW, TO TAKE PLACE IN THE FUTURE AND THEY NEED SOMETHING DIFFERENT, IT WILL BE KIND OF ODD BECAUSE THE WHOLE AREA EVEN A BLOCK AFTER DAYS OF BUILDING THAT SOME TYPE OF ACADEMY IN THE HOUSE OR MUSEUM THAT HAS THE SAME MATERIALS ON THE OUTSIDE. I THINK IF SOMETHING DIFFERENT WILL HAVE TO GO THERE IT'S IT WILL BE KIND OF HARD, YOU KNOW. BUT I'M FOR THE SAKE OF YOU KNOW, GIVEN NEW BUILDERS THE ABILITY TO DO WHATEVER THEY WANT AND EXPRESS THEMSELVES IS A GOOD IDEA BUT IT WILL HAVE TO BE IN A PLACE THAT DOESN'T REQUIRE, YOU KNOW, TO LOOK LIKE THAT. I GUESS LIKE COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO. >> HI. THANK YOU. I'M GOING TO TAKE I'M GOING TO TAKE I'M GOING TO ADVOCATE FOR WHAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR BECAUSE YOU KNOW, THAT'S JUST HOW I FEEL. NO, I LOOK, IF SOMETHING'S UGLY, WE SHOULDN'T JUST KEEP MAKING IT UGLY LIKE THAT. I THINK IT'S A DUMB IDEA FRANKLY. LIKE I PERSONALLY THINK THAT'S TRUE IN THE 40 AND 50 YEARS THAT THESE THINGS HAVE BEEN DEVELOPED LIKE ARCHITECTURAL STYLES HAVE CHANGED. BUT I MEAN THAT'S LIKE IMAGINE IF WE SAID IN 1890 THERE WERE VICTORIAN SO IN 1950 WE SHOULDN'T GET MID-CENTURY MODERN. I WOULD DIE IF WE DIDN'T HAVE MID-CENTURY MODERN. IT'S MY FAVORITE STYLE RIGHT? I ALSO YOU KNOW SO I WANT US TO BE CAREFUL NOT TO LIKE YOU KNOW, JUST DO WHAT WE WERE ALWAYS DOING. IT WOULD BE MY WOULD BE MY THING IS I WILL VOTE I WILL SUPPORT THIS IF YOU BRING IT. I KNOW WE'RE NOT VOTING ON ANYTHING TONIGHT BUT I THINK THIS MAKES SENSE AND ACTUALLY I LOVE THE IDEA THAT SOMEBODY COULD COME IN, DO SOMETHING REALLY CREATIVE AND INTERESTING, PROVIDE A SPOT OF VISUAL INTEREST IN THE CENTER OF WHAT MIGHT BE CONSIDERED BY LOTS OF PEOPLE TO BE PRETTY DULL AND PRETTY BORING AND PRETTY UGLY AND TURN AROUND AND MAYBE INCENTIVIZE THAT AREA TO DO SOMETHING REVITALIZING AS WELL . I LOVE THAT THAT MIGHT FOSTER SOME DEVELOPMENT SO I'M GOING TO BUY INTO YOUR IDEA ON THIS ONE. CONTRARY TO MY FRIENDS OVER AND ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THIS I'M JUST GOING TO WE'LL BRING IT BACK TO THIS BUT I WOULD SIMPLY SAY WEIZMAN ARTS MUSEUM THAT'S WE'LL JUST LEAVE IT FROM LEAVE IT THERE. OKAY. OKAY. ORDINANCE F F SO CURRENTLY CODE REQUIRES AN EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALK ALONG MINOR COLLECTOR ROADS WHICH ARE OUTLINED IN THE THICKER BLUE ON THIS MAP. BUT THE CITY ENGINEER HAS AGREED THAT THIS COULD BE REDUCED TO SIX FEET WHEN NOT ABUTTING THE CURB. THE AMENDMENT IS INTENDED TO RIGHT SIZE PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES ALONG LOWER VOLUME ROADWAYS DECREASING IMPERVIOUS SURFACE ALSO PROVIDING ADEQUATE FACILITIES. SO PLANNING COMMISSION WAS INTERESTED IN HAVING SOME DISCRETION FROM THE CITY ENGINEER OF NOT DOING THIS ON ALL OF THE MINOR COLLECTOR ROADS BUT ON PERHAPS DOING A STUDY WHERE THERE'S LOWER PEDESTRIAN TRAFFIC AND PEOPLE AREN'T USING THOSE SIDEWALKS AS MUCH COUNCILMEMBER MOMENT ARE ANY OF THESE SNOWPLOWING ROUTES? MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN GOOD QUESTION. I DO NOT KNOW THAT WOULD BE MY QUESTION IN TERMS OF WHAT AND IT DOESN'T NEED TO BE ANSWERED TONIGHT. I'M JUST CURIOUS ABOUT WHAT IMPACT THAT HAS TO TRYING TO PLOW THAT STUFF. IS IT EASIER OR LESS EASY TO TO DO THAT AS LONG AS WE'VE SAID WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE DOING THAT? THANK YOU, MAYOR. HAVING WATCHED 65% OF THE SIDEWALKS SNOW REMOVAL POLICY DISCUSSIONS, I DON'T WANT TO GET TOO FAR OVER MY SKIS AND BEING OVERLY PRECISE I KNEW I DO KNOW THAT THE SNOW MACHINES THEY USE FOR SIDEWALKS ARE BETTER SUITED I BELIEVE TO THE SIX FOOT SIDEWALK I SEE JULIE NODDING SO WHEN THEY HAVE WIDER TRAILS OR WIDER SIDEWALKS THAT'S WHEN SOMETIMES THEY DO NEED TO USE A TRUCK WITH A PLOW BLADE AND OTHER EQUIPMENT. SO JULIE'S HERE IF YOU WANT TO TALK TO HER MORE ABOUT THAT. BUT I THINK THE INTENT OF THIS ONE IS THAT BASICALLY WE WANT GOOD AND SOUND PEDESTRIAN FACILITIES THERE JUST HAPPENS TO BE SOME MINOR COLLECTOR ROADS THAT MIGHT HAVE LOWER VOLUMES WHERE AN EIGHT FOOT WALK MIGHT NOT BE NEEDED SO YOU'RE ABLE TO CONSIDER THE IMPERVIOUS SURFACE AND COST. KEEP IN MIND THAT WITH ALL DEVELOPMENT ACTIVITY OF SOME OF THESE SITES YOU HAVE TO COMPLETELY REBUILD THE SIDEWALK AND THEN SOMETIMES IN OUR SIDEWALK NETWORK YOU HAVE GAPS WHERE YOU HAVE EIGHT, EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALK UP NEXT TO SIX FOOT SIDEWALK AND YOU KNOW THERE'S KIND OF A TUG BACK AND FORTH WITH THE DEVELOPMENT COMMITTEE. IT DOESN'T MEAN YOU SHOULDN'T BUILD EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALK IN THE RIGHT PLACES DEFINITELY, BUT JUST KIND OF EXPRESS IN THE BACKGROUND A LITTLE BIT. JULIE, IS THERE ANYTHING YOU WANT TO ADD? OKAY. ANY OTHER THOUGHTS ON THIS COUNCIL? ALL RIGHT, MAYOR, CAN I ASK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO KNOW SO THE PLANNING COMMISSION DID NOTUPPORT THE STAFF DRAFT TO THAT ONE. THEY DID WANT TO ADD IN THAT CITY ENGINEER DISCRETION COMPONENT. IT WOULD BE HELPFUL FEEDBACK FROM YOU ON THIS ONE IN TERMS OF WHETHER OR NOT YOU WOULD FAVOR THAT APPROACH THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION SUPPORTED NOT JUST ACROSS THE BOARD GOING DOWN TO SIX FEET, NOT FOUR CURB BLOCK BUT OR IF YOU WOULD FAVOR THAT DISCRETION COMPONENT WHERE THEY'RE LOWER VOLUMES SO THAT COUNCIL COUNCIL MEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANKS MR. MAYOR. >> JUST TO CLARIFY IF YOU WOULDN'T THAT THE DISCRETION IS INTENDED TO SUGGEST NOT REDUCING TO SIX FEET IN CERTAIN AREAS BASED ON DISCRETION AND WHAT'S THE REASONING WHY SOME THE ENGINEER MIGHT SAY YAY OR NAY TO THAT? I THINK IT WOULD MAYOR COUNCILOR EL-SADR AND CERTAINLY JULIE CAN SPEAK TO BUT I THINK IT WOULD BE AREAS WHERE THERE'S KNOWN HIGHER VOLUMES OF PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY. SO YOU HAVE SOME AREAS ON LIKE 12TH AVENUE FOR EXAMPLE ON THE EAST SIDE OR 84TH STREET THERE PARTS OF 82ND STREET THERE'S JUST HIGHER THERE'S HIGHER AMOUNTS OF PEDESTRIAN ACTIVITY BUT THERE'S STILL TECHNICALLY MINOR COLLECTOR ROAD. SO IN THOSE CASES AN EIGHT FOOT SIDEWALK MAKES MORE SENSE. THERE JUST HAPPENS TO BE SOME MINOR COLLECTORS IN OTHER PARTS OF THE COMMUNITY THAT HAVE LOWER VOLUMES WHERE MAYBE AN EIGHT FOOT WALK IS A LITTLE BIT OVERKILL. SO THAT'S THAT'S KIND OF THE PREMISE OF IT. OKAY. SO SUPER HELPFUL. SO I THINK HAVING ENGINEER DISCRETION ON THAT MAKES SENSE TO ME. I WOULD ALSO I'M A LITTLE GUESS I'M ASSUMING THAT THIS IN THIS IS FOR SIDEWALKS THAT DON'T ALREADY EXIST IT'S NOT LIKE WE'RE GOING TO GO DOWN AND WE'RE STARTING TO CUT TWO FEET OFF OF EVERY SIDEWALK, RIGHT? SO SO THE ONES THAT EXIST TODAY ARE GOING TO STAY EITHER 6 FOOT OR 8 FOOT WHATEVER THEY ARE. SOME ARE STILL THREE FOOT FOR THAT MATTER, YOU KNOW, SO YEAH ,I WOULD SAY IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDING AND PLANNING NEW SIDEWALKS, THE DISCRETION TO DETERMINE IF IT'S 6 FOOT OR 8 FOOT SEEMS REASONABLE TO ME. OKAY. THANK YOU. DISCRETION I THINK MAKES SENSE. AND WOULD WE AGREE WITH THAT COUNCIL OKAY. YES. SO LASTLY I HAVE ORDINANCE H H WHICH IS A LITTLE MEATIER SO I WENT TO A STUDY SESSION WITH PLANNING COMMISSION AND ALSO THE CREATIVE PLACEMAKING COMMISSION ABOUT THIS AND SO THERE'S A FEW DIFFERENT CHANGES WITH THIS ONE THAT I'LL GO THROUGH AND THEN I KIND OF HAVE SOME SPECIFIC QUESTIONS WITH THIS. SO FIRST OF ALL THIS ORDINANCE CHANGE CAME OUT OF THE CITYWIDE CREATIVE PLACEMAKING PLAN WHICH YOU ALL ADOPTED I BELIEVE IN MARCH OF THIS YEAR AND THIS WAS KIND OF AN IDEA OF HOW TO GET ART IN THE COMMUNITY THROUGH POTENTIAL ZONING CHANGES. SO THERE ARE FIVE CHANGES THAT WE'RE PROPOSING ON THE SCREEN SO FIRST IS TO CREATE A DEFINITION FOR ART STRUCTURE WHICH CAN BE SEEN IN EXHIBIT A WEON'T CURRENTLY HAVE ANY TYPE OF DEFINITION FOR ART REALLY EXCEPT FOR A MURAL. SO THIS WOULD CREATE A DEFINITION FOR THAT. THE SECOND WOULD ALLOW ART STRUCTURES UP TO TEN FEET IN HEIGHT TO ENCROACH INTO REQUIRED STRUCTURE SETBACKS AND THOSE SETBACKS THAT WE ARE PROPOSING RIGHT NOW ARE A MINIMUM OF TEN FEET FOR FRONT AND REAR SETBACKS AND A MINIMUM OF FIVE FOR SIDE SETBACKS. THE THIRD PROPOSAL IS TO ALLOW DEVELOPERS TO SUBSTITUTE WINDOW REQUIREMENTS AND MIXED USE DISTRICTS FOR MURALS. SO CURRENTLY MIXED USE DISTRICTS REQUIRE WINDOWS BETWEEN 2 AND 10FT IN HEIGHT ON THE GROUND LEVEL FACADE AND SO WE WOULD BE PROPOSING TO ALLOW MURALS AS AN EXCEPTION TO THIS WINDOW REQUIREMENT. THE FOURTH IS TO ALLOW ART STRUCTURES TO ACT AS A SUBSTITUTION FOR UP TO 25% OF EXISTING LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS SO A SUBSTITUTION FOR THE REQUIRED AMOUNT OF TREES AND SHRUBS. AND THEN THE LAST PROPOSED CHANGE IS TO CLARIFY THAT ART STRUCTURES MAY BE PLACED IN LANDSCAPING YARDS. SO IN A LOT OF ZONING DISTRICTS WE HAVE A REQUIRED 20 FOOT LANDSCAPING YARD SO SIMILAR TO THE SECOND BULLET POINT, THIS WOULD JUST BE CLARIFYING THAT OUR STRUCTURES WOULD BE ALLOWED IN THAT YARD . AS FAR AS SPECIFIC QUESTIONS THAT I HAVE GO I'LL KIND OF RUN THROUGH THESE AND IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS THAT GO ALONG WITH THEM LET ME KNOW. SO FIRST OF ALL SHOULD SETBACK REQUIREMENTS FOR ART STRUCTURES DIFFER FROM THOSE APPLICABLE TO THE PRINCIPAL BUILDING. SO BASICALLY WHAT I'M ASKING FOR THE SECOND BULLET POINT IS ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH THE PROPOSED NUMBERS OF THE MINIMUM TEN FOOT FRONT AND WE SETBACK AND FIVE FOOT SIDE SETBACK AND SETBACK. LET'S REMEMBER NELSON IS JUST A QUICK QUESTION ON THIS ONE SO THIS WOULD ONLY BE IF IT'S TEN FEET IN HEIGHT SO IF SOMEONE WANTED A 15 FOOT ART INSTALLATION THEY JUST HAD TO MEET THE REGULAR SETBACK. THEY COULD STILL DO THAT, CORRECT? MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YES. AND SO I KIND OF GET INTO HEIGHT IN THE NEXT QUESTION BUT FOR WHAT WE'RE PROPOSING YOU SET IT CORRECTLY. YES. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND YEAH, I'D BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. OTHER THOUGHTS ON THAT COUNCIL COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THE ONLY COMMENT I WOULD MAKE ON THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR ART STRUCTURES IN LIEU OF LANDSCAPING I LOVE CONCEPTUALLY THE IDEA ALTHOUGH WE ARE TRYING TO CONTINUALLY GREEN BLOOMINGTON AND SO I DON'T LOVE THE IDEA OF LIKE A BIG METAL THING THAT SITS IN GRAVEL REPLACING A TREE OR A SET OF LANDSCAPING AND A NATIVE FLOWERS OR WHATEVER. SO I'D WANT TO BALANCE THAT A LITTLE BIT. I THINK A COOL ART STRUCTURE ALONG WITH LANDSCAPING THAT APPEALS TO ME LIKE A LOT OF LOT. SO JUST SOMETHING TO THINK ABOUT THERE. AND THEN IN TERMS OF ENCROACHMENT, YOU KNOW I, I THINK THAT THAT'S A GREAT REASON TO ACCEPT ENCROACHMENT AND TO ALLOW ENCROACHMENT. I THINK IT'S A GREAT REASON TO DO IT. ART IS IMPORTANT AND I THINK WE SHOULD ALLOW FOR IT WHEN IT'S I MEAN ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'RE NOT PROBABLY TALKING ABOUT, YOU KNOW, A TON OF FEET OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT WE'RE PROBABLY TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING ODDLY SHAPED THAT MIGHT EXTEND OVER A QUARTER PIECE OR WHATEVER DEPENDING ON HOW YOU SET YOU SET IT ON THE FRAME. SO BUT I THINK THAT'S I THINK THAT'S GREAT WHEN YOU SAID WINDOW REQUIREMENTS AND MIXED USE DISTRICT FOR PUBLIC ART I'M ASSUMING I'M ASSUMING THAT MEANS THAT THE THE PUBLIC IT'S NOT THAT THE PUBLIC ART IS GOING TO BE SEE THROUGH OR ANYTHING YOU'RE LITERALLY SWAPPING THEM OUT. THEY CAN BE COMPLETELY SEPARATE AND DIFFERENT IN THAT CASE WHAT WOULD BE IN PLACE OF THE WINDOW? IT WOULD BE LIKE A LIKE JUST THE WALL. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO SORRY IF I WASN'T CLEAR ON THIS SO IT WOULD BE SPECIFICALLY SWAPPING A MURAL AND PLACE. SO YEAH IT WOULD BE A WALL WITH A MURAL ON IT. YES. OKAY, GREAT PLACE. AND THERE'S A WINDOW NEXT THE THOUGHTS AND THE SETBACK COUNCIL. I MEAN COUNCILMEMBER NELSON MADE GOOD POINTS AND I THINK ARE OKAY WITH THAT. ALL RIGHT. OKAY. SO MY NEXT QUESTION IS RELATED TO HEIGHT. SO SHOULD THERE BE A HEIGHT LIMIT ON ART STRUCTURES ENCROACHING INTO THE REQUIRED SETBACK? SO FOR EXAMPLE, IN THE SECOND BULLET HERE WE PUT TEN FEET AND HEIGHT CAN ENCROACH INTO THE SETBACK. PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE CREATIVE PLACEMAKING COMMISSION HAD THOUGHTS ABOUT THIS. THEY DIDN'T MOST OF THEM DIDN'T SPECIFICALLY WANT TO LIMIT THE STRUCTURE TO HAVE TO BE TEN FEET OR AN ARBITRARY NUMBER BECAUSE IT'S ART AND SO THERE ARE DIFFERENT OPINIONS KIND OF ON WHAT THAT LIMIT SHOULD BE SOME SAID LIMITED TO THE HEIGHT OF THE BUILDING. OTHERS SAID PROPORTIONAL TO THE SIZE OF THE SETBACK THAT'S COUNCILMEMBER LIMIT. SO I GUESS WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, YOU KNOW, I THINK I'D LIKE TO HEAR I CONTRADICT MYSELF BUT YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW IF IT'S THE HEIGHT THAT'S THE ISSUE FOR ME IT'S MORE DOES IT FIT WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING IN THAT IN THAT AREA? AND SO I THINK IT'S GOT TO BE SOME DISCRETION THERE AND I KNOW IF IT'S A PLANNING PERSON THAT DOES THAT PLANNING DIRECTOR OR FOR THAT WHO ELSE? ART SO I THINK MAYBE IT'S A DECISION THAT'S KIND OF MADE THAT DOESN'T FIT IN WITH THAT AREA. IS THERE SOME CONFLICTS WITH THAT YOU KNOW THAT IT WOULD BE THERE? SO I'D LIKE TO GIVE A LOT OF DISCRETION BECAUSE I THINK THERE'S TOO MUCH DISCRETION BUT I THINK WE WANT TO YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE TRYING TO BE INNOVATIVE AND TRYING TO BE CREATIVE, I THINK THAT YOU KNOW WHY WHY HAVE A WHY HAVE A HEIGHT REQUIREMENT AND THEN IF THERE'S SOME QUESTION ABOUT IT, MAYBE IT COMES BACK TO A DIFFERENT BODY TO KIND OF GIVE SOME ADVICE ABOUT IT. SO COUNCILMEMBER NELSON YEAH, THANKS MAN. I ACTUALLY AGREE WITH THE LIMITATION ON THE HEIGHT ON THIS ONE. IT'S GOING TO BE CLOSER TO YOU KNOW, THE THE ROAD AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I WOULD NOT WANT TO SEE SOMETHING THAT WAS VERY DISTRACTING OR AND SUPER LARGE RIGHT NEXT TO THE ROAD I THINK I THINK IT MAKES SENSE TO TO LIMIT THAT AND AGAIN IT SOUNDS LIKE FROM HOW YOU ANSWER MY OTHER QUESTION YOU WANT TO BUILD SOMETHING BIGGER YOU WANT TO BE CREATIVE. YOU JUST GOT TO SET IT BACK A LITTLE BIT FARTHER SO BUT YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T WANT TO SEE THAT BIG BIRD RIGHT NEXT TO THE WINDOW OR RIGHT NEXT TO THE ROAD. SO SO WITH THE VIDEO YEAH. COOL THINKING I'M HEARING THE SETBACKS AND THE HEIGHT REQUIREMENTS SEEM TO MAKE SENSE. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. SO MY NEXT QUESTION IS SHOULD OUR STRUCTURES BE ALLOWED TO ENCROACH IN REQUIRED SETBACKS ON RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES? SO I'M ASKING FOR BOTH LIKE MULTIFAMILY RESIDENTIAL PROPERTIES AND SINGLE FAMILY HOMES. THERE IS GENERAL SUPPORT FROM BOTH COMMISSIONS FOR MULTIFAMILY PROPERTIES AND SOME MIXED FEEDBACK ON ALLOWING THEM TO ENCROACH ON SETBACKS ON LIKE A SINGLE FAMILY PROPERTY . COUNCILMEMBER LIMIT SO I BUILT SOMETHING INTO THAT IN THAT SETBACK SPACE AND THERE'S A RATIONALE FOR HAVING A SETBACK . SO WHAT HAPPENS WHEN THERE'S A CONFLICT? >> MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER LOWMAN A CONFLICT AND AND WHAT EXACTLY SO LET ME BACK UP TO START OFF THIS WAY SO WE HAVE A SETBACK FOR A REASON. LET'S START THERE. SO WHY DO WE HAVE THE SETBACKS? MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBER LOWMAN WELL DEPENDING ON THE DISTRICT LIKE TO PROVIDE A YARD TO PROVIDE SAFETY, ALLOW VISUALS OF HOMES. YEAH. SO I GUESS THAT'S THAT'S SORT OF WHERE I START OFF WITH IS IF IF THE CONFLICT YOU KNOW IF WE DON'T SEE A CONFLICT THERE THEN I DON'T HAVE A PROBLEM ENCROACHING INTO THAT INTO THAT INTO THAT SETBACK. BUT I THINK THAT WHERE THERE IS THAT CONFLICT AND WHERE YOU NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET THERE OR YOU NEED TO PROVIDE SAFETY THEN THEN I'M OPPOSED TO, YOU KNOW, PUTTING IT THERE SO SO THAT'S I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE'VE GOT TO BE. THERE'S A REASON THERE'S A RATIONALE FROM A PLANNING PERSPECTIVE AS TO WHY WE HAVE HAD THOSE SETBACKS AND YOU KNOW, MAYBE TO GET TO UTILITY MAYBE YOU KNOW, OTHER OTHER REASONS. BUT I WANT TO JUST BE SURE THAT WE'RE ABLE TO DO WHAT THE CITY NEEDS TO DO BEFORE WE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, KIND OF PUT OUT THERE AND THEN WE'VE GOT A BIG DECISION WE'VE GOT TO MAKE IN TERMS OF REFERENCE SOMETHING OUT AND GETTING PEOPLE REALLY UPSET ABOUT IT. SO THAT WOULD BE BUT OTHER THAN THAT, YEAH I'M FULLY SUPPORTIVE OF DOING THAT IN EITHER EITHER EITHER LOCATION. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON THANK YOU MAYOR. JUST FOR CLARITY MAYBE FOR MR. LEMON'S COMMENTS JUST SO I UNDERSTAND IT, I THINK WE WOULD NEED TO DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THE SETBACK AND A PUBLIC RIGHT OF WAY OR ANY TYPE OF UTILITY EASEMENTS OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT WHERE YOU WOULD RUN INTO THE SITUATION WHERE YEAH, IT MIGHT VERY LIKELY GET TORN UP TO PUT FIBER OPTICS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. YOU KNOW THOSE TYPES OF THINGS IF WE DISTINGUISH BETWEEN THEM THEN I'M I'M PERFECTLY COMFORTABLE IF YOU WANT A REALLY NICE PIECE OF ART OR SOMETHING REALLY STRANGE AND WEIRD, YOU KNOW I'M NOT HERE TO JUDGE IT SO BUT I THINK IT'S FINE IN THE SETBACKS THERE AS LONG AS IT'S NOT IN AN AREA THAT NEEDS TO GET TORN OUT FOR SOMETHING REALLY GOOD THOUGHTS ANY ADDITIONAL THOUGHTS ON THIS? NO, I'M OKAY. TWO MORE QUESTIONS WHICH SOME FEEDBACK HAS ALREADY BEEN PROVIDED SO IT'S OKAY IF YOU DON'T HAVE ANYTHING. DO YOU ALL THINK THAT IT'S OKAY FOR MURALS TO BE ALLOWED TO ACT AS AN EXCEPTION TO WHEN NO REQUIREMENTS AND MIXED USE DISTRICTS? I KNOW COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO ALREADY TOUCHED ON THIS AND GENERAL COMMISSIONERS SAID THEY WOULD LIKE TO REQUIRED STANDARDS TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MURAL IS BEING KEPT UP AND ALSO DOESN'T GET REMOVED IN THE FUTURE AND JUST LIKE LEAVES THE BUILDING WITH A BLANK WALL, IT SEEMS TO MAKE SENSE. OKAY. OKAY. LAST QUESTION IS THE PROPOSED REDUCTION OF UP TO 25% OF REQUIRED LANDSCAPING MATERIAL APPROPRIATE AT WHEN AN ART STRUCTURE IS PROVIDED IN PLACE OF TREES AND SHRUBS? THE PLANNING COMMISSION WAS NOT IN SUPPORT KIND OF FOR WHAT COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO SAID AND THE CREATIVE PLACEMAKING COMMISSIONERS HAD SOME SUPPORT AND SAID MAYBE NOT REPLACING TREES SPECIFICALLY BUT COULD BE IN REPLACE OF MAYBE SOME SHRUBS AND PLANTS FABRICATOR. THANK YOU MAYOR SO I WOULD PROBABLY AGREE WITH THE CREATIVE PLACEMAKING COMMISSION THAT A VERY LIMITED AMOUNT OF SHRUBS OR PLANTS BUT I WOULD NOT BE I GENERALLY AM NOT SUPER SUPPORTIVE OF THIS ONE JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE BEEN WORKING SO HARD TO, YOU KNOW, REPLACE TREES AND MAKE SURE THAT WE HAVE GOOD LANDSCAPING REQUIREMENTS IN PLACE. SO I GUESS YEAH IN GENERAL I'M NOT SUPER SUPPORTIVE BUT COULD HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY FOR A LIMITED AMOUNT OF SHRUBS OR PLANTS TO BE REPLACED REPLACEMENT. THOUGHTS ON THAT? OTHERS. COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS YEAH, I FEEL THE SAME WAY AS COUNCILMEMBER CARTER MAYBE TO GET RID OF SOME OF THE LONG TERM BUSHES OF SOMEWHERE YOU KNOW, PUT SOME ART THERE I GUESS WOULD BE A GOOD WAY TO GET RID OF THE THING. I WOULD TRY TO CLEAN IT UP AT HOME AND IT JUST DOESN'T WORK . BUT ANYWAY SO I MEAN I'M SOMEWHAT IN SUPPORT OF IT, YOU KNOW IF IT'S SOMETHING LIKE THAT I GUESS. BUT WOULDN'T THAT I GUESS MORE TREES THAT'S ART NATURAL I THANK YOU. COOL. SO THERE'S NO FORMAL ACTION REQUESTED AT THIS TIME. THANK YOU FOR YOUR FEEDBACK. WE MIGHT REVISE THE DRAFTS AND WILL PREPARE FORMAL ORDINANCES FOR CONSIDERATION IN NOVEMBER . AND THEN LASTLY WE JUST WANTED TO ASK FOR. NOT RIGHT NOW BUT FOR YOU TO THINK ABOUT ANY FEEDBACK ABOUT THE MISCELLANEOUS ISSUES PROCESS OVERALL IF YOU THINK THAT THE WAY WE SPLIT UP THE CLEAN UP VERSUS THE POLICY ITEMS WORKS WELL IF YOU LIKE HAVING A STUDY SESSION ANYTHING IF YOU HAVE THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT PLEASE LET US KNOW . BUT OTHERWISE THANK YOU FOR YOUR ANSWERS AND THANK YOU. AND ACTUALLY YOU JUMPED THE COMMENT THAT I WAS GOING TO END WITH BECAUSE I'M GOING BACK TO MY FIRST COMMENT ESPECIALLY THIS LAST PART WHERE WE HAD FIVE DIFFERENT BULLET POINTS AND THE FACT THAT IT WAS THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND THE SUSTAINABILITY COMMISSION BOTH TOOK A LOOK AT IT AND WITH MULTIPLE QUESTIONS IN IT. I WONDER IF THIS REALLY FITS INTO THE REALM OF MISCELLANEOUS ITEMS OR THIS ISN'T THIS IS A SUBSTANTIVE KIND OF A POLICY CHANGE OR A POLICY DISCUSSION. SO JUST SOMETHING TO BE THINKING ABOUT AS WE MOVE FORWARD IN THE FUTURE. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU MUCH COUNSEL. WE ARE AT 823. WE HAVE TWO ITEMS LEFT SO I AM CONFIDENT IN BOTH STAFF AND THE COUNCIL THAT WE CAN GET THROUGH OUR BUSINESS TONIGHT AND GET OUT OF HERE BY OUR 9: TIME. I AM CONFIDENT IN THAT ITEM 5.3 THIS IS A AN UPDATE ON THE 494 PROJECT AND AN INFORMATION A REQUEST FOR INFORMATION REGARDING MUNICIPAL CAN CONSENT. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME. >> THANK YOU. GOOD EVENING COUNCIL I'M AMY MORAN, A TRAFFIC ENGINEER WITH THE CITY WARMINGTON AND THIS IS ANDREW LATOYA WITH MENDON. IT'S BEEN A WHILE SINCE WE'VE BEEN BEFORE YOU TO TALK ABOUT A 494 PROJECT BUT ANDREW IS GOING TO GIVE AN OVERVIEW OF THE ITEMS YOU CAN SEE ON THE BOARD HERE. BUT THE EXCITING THING IS DEVELOPMENT OF PROJECT TWO AND SO ON THE OCTOBER 13TH MEETING WE WILL BE BACK BEFORE YOU REQUESTING MUNICIPAL CONSENT OF THAT PROJECT. THIS IS AN OPPORTUNITY FOR YOU TO GET A PREVIEW OF THAT PRESENTATION AND LET US KNOW IF THERE'S ANY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION THAT YOU WOULD LIKE GOING INTO THAT PUBLIC HEARING ON OCTOBER 13TH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. EVENING. WELCOME. THANK YOU. IT'S GOOD TO BE BACK. TO BE HONEST, I WASN'T EXPECTING TO BE IN FRONT OF YOU ANYTIME SOON. WE STARTED THIS PROJECT BACK IN 2018 AND WE ONLY FUNDED HALF OF THE PROJECT. SO THAT'S WHAT YOU'RE SEEING OUT THERE THAT IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. BUT AS LUCK WOULD HAVE IT LAST YEAR WE GOT ADDITIONAL FUNDING FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT THAT IS ALLOWING US TO CONCLUDE ON THE CORRIDOR VISION. SO REALLY BE BRIEF ON MY PRESENTATION FOR TODAY. THERE IS A LOT OF BACKGROUND INFORMATION THAT WE ARE HAPPY TO SHARE WITH ANY OF THE COUNCIL MEMBERS AND MAYOR IF YOU SO WISH. SO YES I'LL GIVE A BRIEF ON WHY WE NEED TO REQUEST FOR MUNICIPAL CONSENT AS AS AS AS THAT WHAT THE CORRIDOR VISION ENTAILS SCOPE DESCRIPTION BETWEEN PROJECT ONE AND PROJECT TWO AND THEN THE LOCAL COST PARTICIPANT PARTICIPATION ITEMS IN THE SECOND PHASE SIMILAR TO WHAT WAS DONE IN PROJECT ONE. JUST TO DEBRIEF ON THE PROPOSED STAGING AND MANAGEMENT OF TRAFFIC DURING CONSTRUCTION FOR THE SECOND PHASE AND OVERALL LUMINARY DESIGN SCHEDULE FOR THE SECOND PROJECT. SO WHY WE NEED TO ASK FOR MUNICIPAL CONSENT IS THAT BY STATE LAW STATE STATUTES IF IF A STATE PROJECT IF A MINUTE PROJECT IS ACQUIRING A RIGHT OF PERMANENT RIGHT OF WAY FROM THE CITY IF IT IS ALTERING ACCESS OF THE HIGHWAY AND ALL IF IT IS INCREASING OR DECREASING CAPACITY THROUGH A MUNICIPALITY MEANT THAT IS REQUIRED TO SEEK MUNICIPAL CONSENT. AND EACH OF THOSE THREE IS TRIGGERED FOR THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON WE ARE EXPANDING THE HIGHWAY WITH E-Z PASS. WE ARE ALTERING ACCESS BY 82ND STREET AND THE 30 5W4 94 INTERCHANGE COMPLETING THAT VISION AND WE ARE ALSO ACQUIRING A PERMANENT RIGHT OF WAY FOR STORMWATER MANAGEMENT. SO AS I MENTIONED BACK IN 2018 THROUGH 2022 WORKING WITH CITY COUNCIL AND CITY STAFF FOR THE MUNICIPALITIES ABUTTING 494 WE DEFINE THE 494 CORRIDOR VISION WHICH IS EXPANDING ENDING THE HIGHWAY WITH E-ZPASS FROM HIGHWAY 169 THROUGH HIGHWAY 77 RECONFIGURING THE 30 5W4 84 INTERCHANGE AND THEN CONSOLIDATING ACCESS EAST OF 35 W BY REMOVING THE OFF RAMPS ON THE ON AND OFF RAMPS AT NICOLLET AVENUE AND 12 AND CONSOLIDATING ALL THE ACCESS AT PORTLAND AVENUE SO EAST OF 35 W WILL HAVE HIGHWAY ACCESS ALLENDALE AVENUE AND PORTLAND AVENUE. SO FOR WHAT IS BEING CONSTRUCTED OUT THERE IT WAS MOSTLY HAVE A HEAVILY LEANING WEST OF 35 W BETWEEN HIGHWAY 185 W RECONFIGURING THE 30 5W4 94 INTERCHANGE AND WE ARE ALSO REPLACING ALL THE PAVEMENT BETWEEN HIGHWAY 135 W THE PORTLAND AVENUE PORTLAND NICOLLET AND NORTH AVENUE BRIDGES. THOSE ARE GOING TO BE RECONSTRUCTED. WE BUILT A NEW PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE EAST OF PORTLAND AVENUE AND QUITE A FEW MULTIMODAL FACILITIES BIKES, BIKE TRAILS BACK ON PED RAMPS IDEA IMPROVEMENTS THROUGHOUT THE CORRIDOR. >> SO WE ARE FOR PROJECT ONE. WE ARE ON TRACK TO GET THAT DONE SUBSTANTIALLY BY NEXT FALL SEPTEMBER 2026. MOST OF THE PAVEMENT WALK EAST OF 30 5WI SAID 90% OF 90% OF IT WILL BE COMPLETED BEFORE THE END OF THIS YEAR. THE PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE EAST OF PORTLAND WAS BUILT IS UP, IT'S OPENING, IT'S UP AND RUNNING. THE PORTLAND AVENUE BRIDGE WILL BE COMPLETED THIS YEAR AS WELL. >> UH, WHAT ELSE? THEN THE NICOLLET MALL FOR 2026 IS MOSTLY GOING TO BE ON THE NICOLLET AVENUE ON 12TH AVENUE BRIDGES ONCE AGAIN PORTLAND AVENUE'S BUILT SO GENERALLY STILL ON TRACK TO GET THE PROJECT PROJECT ONE DONE BY 2026. NOW IN THE BACK HEEL OF TWO OF PROJECT ONE WE WILL BE GOING INTO CONSTRUCTION OF PROJECT TWO AND PROJECT TWO WILL BE AGAIN COMPLETING THE VISION IS ALSO WEST OF HIGHWAY 100 SO BETWEEN THE CROYDON WEST PUSH THE ROAD KIND OF EXPANDING OR COVERING THE GRASS MEDIAN THERE AND PAVING IT OVER TO ACCOMMODATE FOR THE EXPANSION ON MAIN LINE 494 REPAVING 35 W FROM 82ND STREET TO 76TH COMPLETING THE WEST WEST SIDE OF 35 W ON 494 KIND OF COMPLETING THAT RECONFIGURING OF THE INTERCHANGE REPAVING MAIN LINE FOR 94 FROM 35 W ALL THE WAY TO 24TH AVENUE REPLACING THE HIGHWAY 77 BRIDGES AND ALSO RE RECONSTRUCTING THE THE RAILROAD BRIDGE BETWEEN LYNDALE AVENUE AND NICOLLET AVENUE. SO LOCAL COST SHARE AS PART OF ASKING FOR CONSENT WE WE DO PROVIDE A SUMMARY OF WHAT WE ARE ANTICIPATING THE LOCAL CALLS SHALL BE ON THE PROJECT AND THESE ARE I WOULD SAY ADDITIONS TO A PENNDOT PROJECT THAT LOCAL PARTNERS REQUEST FOR. SO THAT'S PART OF IT. ANOTHER TIME THAT WE WE DO HAVE OF COURSE PARTICIPATION POLICY THAT ALSO GOVERNS WHAT ITEMS OUR LOCAL PARTNERS ARE REQUIRED TO CONSIDER IN LIKE FOR EXAMPLE A SIGNAL REPLACEMENT IN FRONT OF AVENUE ALSO THE SIGNAL REPLACEMENT ON 82ND STREET BRIDGE. THOSE ARE GOVERNED BY A LOCAL THE LOCAL CULTURE POLICY. BUT THEN WE HAVE TRAILS, SIDEWALKS GENERALLY THAT ARE WORKING WITH CITY STAFF THAT REQUESTED FOR US TO IMPROVE ON AND WOULD THEREFORE BE LEANING ON THE CITY TO BE PAYING OR COVERING THE COSTS FOR FOR THOSE ITEMS PROPOSED MULTI SIMILAR TO PROJECT ONE WE ARE ANTICIPATING A FOUR YEAR CONSTRUCTION WINDOW FOR PROJECT TWO SO 2027 THROUGH 2030 27 MOSTLY FOCUSING ON RELOCATING UTILITIES THERE'S QUITE A BIT OF CITY OF BLOOMINGTON UTILITIES THAT ARE PART OF THE PROJECT IMPACTED BY THE PROJECT PAID FOR BY MENARD LIKE THEIR WATER MAIN JUST WEST OF 35 W THAT GOES THE PROCESS FOR 84 GO ALONG THE 35 W OR THAT IS GOING TO BE RIPPED OUT AND REPLACED. WE THEN 2028 THROUGH 2030 THAT'S WHERE WE ARE GOING TO BE WALKING GENERALLY ON MAINLINE BOTH MAINLINE FOR 94 AND 35 W. VERY LIKELY THAT IT'S GOING TO BE CONCURRENT CONSTRUCTION. SO YOU'D SEE CREWS WORKING ON BOTH 35 W AND ON 494 BUT WE ARE KIND OF RESTRICT OR WE WE ARE PUTTING RESTRICTIONS IN OUR CONTRACT DOCUMENT THAT THE WE EXPECTING THE CONTRACTOR TO AT LEAST ALLOW THREE LANES OF TRAFFIC IN EACH DIRECTION THROUGHOUT THE CONSTRUCTION WINDOW. I APPRECIATE HOW YOU SAY THAT LIKE THAT'S A GOOD THING. IT'S A THANK YOU. YES. YEAH. SO LAST SLIDE. SO THROUGH THE PRELIMINARY DESIGN I SHOULD HAVE STARTED BY SAYING THAT SIMILAR TO PROJECT ONE WE ARE ONLY THAT IS ONLY PROGRESSING THE DESIGN THROUGH WITH 30%. THEN WE HIRE A CONTRACTOR WHO FINALIZE THE CONSTRUCTION PLAN AND THEN GO STRAIGHT INTO CONSTRUCTION. THAT'S KIND OF WHAT WE DEFINE AS A DESIGN BUILD TYPE OF PROJECT DELIVERY. SO WE ARE JUST WAITING TO LET THE PROJECT IN THE FALL OF 2026. SO BETWEEN OCTOBER 26TH UNTIL NOW WE ARE ACTUALLY MEETING OUR MILESTONES VERY VERY WELL. WE HAVE A DRAFT ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT BEING REVIEWED BY MINDAT RIGHT NOW BEFORE IT GOES TO EFFECT OF THE WAY THERE WILL BE A PUBLIC A A PUBLISHING OF THAT ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT FOR PUBLIC COMMENTS SOMETIME IN NOVEMBER OR DECEMBER TIMEFRAME. HOPING ALL THAT IS CONCLUDED JANUARY OR FEBRUARY WHEN THE FINALIZED ENVIRONMENTAL DOCUMENT THEN WE'LL SEND OUT THE REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS. A DRAFT REQUEST FOR PROPOSALS WILL BE WILL BE REVIEWED BY CITY STAFF. LOCAL PARTNERS WILL ALSO HAVE AN INDUSTRIAL REVIEW BUT THEN THE OFFICIAL PUBLICATION OF THAT DOCUMENT WILL BE WE ARE TARGETING IN JUNE OF 2026. SO ONCE THAT IS DONE WE GIVE SOME TIME FOR POTENTIAL BIDDERS TO RESPOND TO OUR PROPOSALS AND THEN WE LET THE PROJECT IN THE FALL OF 2026. SO BRIEFLY THAT'S WHAT I HAVE FOR MY PRESENTATION AND I'M OPEN TO ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH COUNCILMEMBER CARTER AND THEN COUNCILMEMBER ALEXANDRO. THANK YOU MAYOR. SO FOR THE LOCAL COST PARTICIPATION PIECE I ASSUME WE DON'T ACTUALLY LIKE WE DON'T REALLY HAVE A CHOICE IN THAT, RIGHT? I MEAN WE JUST HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. THAT IS MAY OUR COUNCIL MEMBER YES. THAT THE SOME OF THESE REQUESTS HAVE COME FROM CITY STAFF IT MAKES SENSE TO INCLUDE THEM AS PART OF OUR PROJECT. GOT IT. THEN THERE ARE OTHERS. LIKE I SAID, TRADITIONALLY THERE'S BEEN REASON TO SHARE IN THE COSTS LIKE FOR SIGNAL REPLACEMENT SO THERE IS ALWAYS A CHOICE BUT THE CHOICE IS GOING TO BE DO WE PULL IT OUT OF OUR PROJECT OR NOT? OKAY YEAH I GUESS MY BIG QUESTION WAS AROUND THE FRANCE AVENUE LIGHT. I MEAN OBVIOUSLY THAT WAS A BIG PRETTY BIG COST AND IT WAS LIKE $750,000 AND SO I'M GUESS I'M CURIOUS WHY THAT SIGNAL NEEDS TO BE REPLACED. GOOD QUESTION. COUNCIL MEMBER SO SIGNAL REPLACEMENTS USUALLY WE DO LIKE A23 CYCLE WHEN IT GETS THAT OLD THEN WE REPLACE THEM AND THAT'S FOR FRANCE AVENUE. THAT IS THE EFFECT OR THAT'S THAT'S THAT'S WHY WE NEED TO REPLACE IT. OKAY YEAH. YEAH. ALL RIGHT. I'LL JUST ASK FRANCE IF YOU WANT TO IDENTIFY THAT'S FOR THREE SECONDS OR I SHOULD HAVE SAID YEAH SO THERE ARE THREE. YEAH. YEAH AMY IS CALLING ACTUALLY THREE SIGNAL SO THE NORTH SIDE OF 94 THE SOUTH SIDE OF WHAT 84 ALL THOSE SIGNALS ARE BEING REPLACED. OKAY THANK YOU FOR THAT BECAUSE I WAS LIKE GOSH THAT'S A LOT FOR NO. ALL RIGHT. SO OKAY. YEAH, NOW THAT I'M AN EXPERT. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO WITH A QUICK ISN'T THE NORTHSIDE MINNEAPOLIS I'M MR. MAYOR IF I COULD ADDRESS SO THE SIGNAL REPLACEMENTS ARE ON THE NORTH SIDE OF 494ND AT FRANCE AVENUE WE OWN ONE LEG. SO WE HAVE ONE ONE LEG SHARE AT THAT LOCATION. I BELIEVE THE OTHER TWO SIGNALS ARE AT THE 82ND STREET RAMPS AT 35 W AND I THINK THAT THAT IS CORRECT. SO 82ND WE ARE AS YOU'RE SAYING THE 7,082ND THAT IS JUST FOR STREET LIGHTING SO MEAN THAT IS COVERING THE COST FOR 82ND BECAUSE WE KIND OF CAUSED THE PROBLEM WE HAVE TO REPLACE THE BRIDGE SO THAT'S WHY BUT FOR FRANCE AVENUE AS AMY HAS MENTIONED WE CALL THEM LEGS LIKE SO WHERE THE INTERSECTION LIKE IN AND OUT OF THAT INTERSECTION THE MUNICIPALITY THAT IT SERVING THE MOST IS WHO OWNS THE LEG SO WE WE REFER TO THEM AS LAKES OR MEN THAT IS HAS A COST SHARE IN THAT FRANCE AVENUE BRIDGE IN THE FRONT AVENUE SIGNAL REPLACEMENT HENNEPIN COUNTY HAS A SHARE AND THE CITY HAS A SHARE. YEAH. THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO. >> THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I APOLOGIZE IN ADVANCE BECAUSE I'M GOING TO USE THE TIME THAT WE HAVE IN FRONT OF YOU TO JUST ASK FOR SOMETHING ELSE IF THAT'S POSSIBLE IN THIS FIRST LEG OF THE ACTIVITY ON FOR ANY FOR BLOOMINGTON HAS BEEN I'M GOING TO USE THE WORD INUNDATED WITH COMPLAINTS FOR GOOD REASON ABOUT ALL THE TRAFFIC BEING DIVERTED ONTO OUR ROADS RIGHT WHETHER THAT'S 19TH STREET 82ND STREET AMERICAN BOULEVARD. I THINK ONE OF THE ENGINEERS IS WORKING RIGHT NOW ON AN ISSUE OVER AT OFF OF HIGH HIGHLAND OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. SO WE WHAT I WHAT I WANT TO BE SURE OF WHEN WE GO INTO PHASE TWO IS THAT MAYBE WE HAVE A BETTER PLAN FOR HOW TO HELP THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON DEAL WITH ALL OF THE TRAFFIC THAT'S BEING OFFLOADED BY THESE CHANGES BECAUSE I'M NOT SAYING THAT WE DIDN'T DO A PRETTY GOOD JOB. WE PROBABLY DID. BUT I KNOW AND AMY IS HERE I KNOW SHE SPENT A LOT OF TIME TAKING A LOT OF COMPLAINTS FROM RESIDENTS AND HANDING THEM BACK TO MINOT AND GOING BACK AND FORTH AND BEING A BIT OF A COMMUNICATOR. RIGHT. I WOULD JUST I'M GOING TO THROW THAT OUT THERE IF IF AS WE GET READY TO KICK OFF THIS PHASE TWO, IF WE COULD DO IF WE COULD BE MORE PROACTIVE ABOUT COMMUNICATING AND ALSO DEALING WITH VIOLATIONS WHEN PEOPLE AREN'T PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT IT IS YOU'RE TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH IN ORDER TO ENSURE THE SAFETY OF PEOPLE THAT ARE DRIVING. SO I'M GOING TO TAKE THAT PRIVILEGE WHILE YOU'RE HERE JUST TO THROW THAT OUT THERE. I HOPE THAT YOU CAN HELP WITH THAT. AND THEN THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAD REALLY WAS WE HAVE THE CONSTRUCTION POINT BETWEEN FALL OF 2026 AND 2030. ARE WE GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET SOMETHING A LITTLE BIT MORE CONCRETE IN TERMS OF IN THAT TRANCHE OF, YOU KNOW, THREE YEARS WHAT'S HAPPENING WHEN AND AT WHAT POINT WOULD WE GET THAT? MAYOR COUNCIL MEMBERS VERY, VERY GOOD QUESTIONS. ONE YES, LESSONS LEARNED. WE'LL HAVE TO TAKE THAT BACK AND WE DO BETTER FOR THE SECOND PHASE. THE LATTER QUESTION AS I MENTIONED WE MEANT THAT IS ONLY PROGRESSING THE PLANS TO 30% AND THEN WE HIRE A CONTRACTOR TO DEVELOP THE FINAL PLANS IN THAT THEY WILL DEVELOP THEIR FINAL STAGING PLANS AS WELL. SO AT BEST WE WE PROPOSE SOMETHING THAT WE KNOW WORKS AND IS BUILDABLE BUT ONCE THE CONTRACTOR COMES ON BOARD YES THEY CAN TAKE OUR PLANS AND USE THEM OR COME UP WITH THEIR OWN AS WELL. SO IT'S VERY DIFFICULT TO SAY WHEN WE'LL KNOW FOR CERTAIN WHAT THE STAGING IS GOING TO PLAY OUT. SO THAT IS WHY DURING CONSTRUCTION WE DO HAVE CONTINUED MEETINGS WITH CITY STAFF TO PRESENT THEM THAT INFORMATION AS IT BECOMES AVAILABLE. OKAY. THANKS. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER THEME HERE FIRST THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. AND ALSO I JUST WANT TO TAKE A SECOND TO RECOGNIZE AND APPRECIATE THAT FOR HONORING THE STAND OUT OF WORK TODAY. THANK YOU FOR THE DEATH OF THE TWO CONTRACTORS THAT WERE WORKING ONE JUST SOUTH OF HERE IN BROWNSVILLE AND THE OTHER ONE IN MAPLE GROVE. THE JOBS THAT THEY DO AND THE WORK THAT THEY DO IS VERY DANGEROUS AND WE APPRECIATE THAT AND WE KNOW THAT, YOU KNOW, WORKER SAFETY IS SOMETHING THAT WE REALLY PRIORITIZE HERE. SO APPRECIATE ME NOT FOR DOING THAT. SECONDLY, JUST QUESTION JUST COMMENTS HERE. WE'VE BLOOMINGTON'S BEEN DOING A L WE'VE BEEN PART OF THEM IN THAT THE 35 W BRIDGE THAT WAS DONE A FEW YEARS AGO WE GOT LIKE TWO YEAR BREAK AND NOW FOR 94 AND NOW WE THE PHASE TWO IS COMING THROUGH WHEN IT'S DONE I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE GREAT BUT IN THE MEANTIME I THINK BLOOMINGTON RESIDENTS ARE REALLY FEELING THE STRESS AND THE BURNOUT AND TO UNDERSTAND THAT PHASE TWO IS COMING AND THIS IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER FIVE SIX YEARS THAT WE'LL BE DEALING WITH THIS AND SUPPORT THAT WE CAN HAVE FROM THE CITY FROM IN THAT TO CONTINUE THAT COMMUNICATION WITH RESIDENTS, TO SHARE THAT SCHEDULE, TO PROVIDE THE RESOURCES THAT THAT RESIDENTS ARE LOOKING FOR TO EASE THE TRAFFIC WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED AND THEN HOPEFULLY I CAN SURPRISE US WITH ANY MORE. MAYBE WE GET A FIVE YEAR TEN YEAR BREAK BEFORE SOMETHING COMES BACK AGAIN 20 YEARS BE ABOVE THAT BECAUSE A LOT OF CONSTRUCTION AND PEOPLE GET INTO CONSTRUCTION. SO APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU. OKAY COMMENTS THANK YOU AND ANYTHING ELSE COUNCIL IS NOW WE'RE MOVING ON COUNCIL MEMBER LOWMAN THANK YOU I KNOW IT COULD HAVE BEEN A LOT WORSE. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. THANK YOU FOR STICKING IT OUT WITH US. APPRECIATE IT. I APPRECIATE IT. COUNCIL ITEM 5.4 ON OUR AGENDA THIS IS AN UPDATE ON OUR PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING PROCESS. COREY CARLSON IS HERE. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. GOOD EVENING. COUNCIL SO I WILL BE COVERING THE SCOPE OF THE WORK COMPLETED SO FAR FOR PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING HOW THE PROGRAM IS GOING WORD THE IMPACT MATRIX RESULTS AND LESSONS LEARNED SO FAR HOW THE PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING PRINCIPLES TIE INTO OUR CITY'S VALUES SOME EMERGING OPPORTUNITIES AND A LOOK AHEAD AT OUR NEXT STEPS. SO AS A REVIEW THE PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING APPROACH IS IS GUIDED BY FOUR KEY PRINCIPLES TRANSPARENCY ALIGNMENT BALANCE AND SUSTAINABILITY AND OFTEN WE CALL PRIORITY BASED BUDGETING PPB BECAUSE IT'S EASIER TO SAY THAN THOSE THREE WORDS. SO I'M KIND OF REFERRED TO IT AS PBB GOING FORWARD. SO PBB CONNECTS RIGHT BACK TO OUR COMMUNITY VALUES. IT BUILDS ON THE BLOOMINGTON TOMORROW TOGETHER A STRATEGIC PLAN FOR NATIONAL COMMUNITY SURVEY THAT WE DO ANNUALLY AND THE INPUT WE GET THROUGH ONGOING ENGAGEMENT WITH THE PUBLIC. HERE'S THAT CHART THAT SHOWS THE STEPS OF THE PBB PROCESS. SO WE CREATED AN INVENTORY OF PROGRAMS. WE ASSIGNED THE COST TO THEM, WE SCORED THEM AND THEN THE GOAL NOW IS TO USE THIS INFORMATION TO GUIDE RESOURCE ALLOCATION AND BUDGET DECISIONS. SO I'M JUST GOING TO TAKE A MINUTE TO KIND OF TALK THROUGH THIS SCORING PROCESS THAT WE DID. IT WAS VERY INVOLVED. WE USED SEVERAL CRITERIA. FIRST IT WAS THE DEMAND SCORING. SO WHETHER THE NEED FOR THE SERVICE IS INCREASING, IF IT'S STAYING STABLE OR IF IT'S DECREASING AND THEN SECOND, THE PORTION OF THE COMMUNITY THAT WAS THAT SERVED THIRD COST RECOVERY WHETHER THE PROGRAM GENERATES ANY REVENUE TO HELP OFFSET ITS COSTS. FOURTH RELIANCE WHETHER THIS IS A SERVICE THAT ONLY THE CITY CAN PROVIDE OR IF IT COULD REASONABLY BE DELIVERED BY ANOTHER ENTITY. AND FINALLY THE MANDATE WHETHER THE PROGRAM IS REQUIRED BY STATE OR FEDERAL LAW OR IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE CITY HAS MANDATED ITSELF OR CHOSE TO DO ON ITS OWN. AND THEN OF COURSE THE PROGRAMS WERE ALSO SCORED AGAINST OUR STRATEGIC PLAN BLOOMINGTON TOMORROW AND TOGETHER ON THAT ALIGNMENT WHICH IS BUILDING A CONNECTED WELCOMING COMMUNITY, IMPROVING HEALTH AND SAFETY AND FOSTERING EQUITABLE ECONOMIC GROWTH ALSO THE INTERNAL PROGRAMS THERE'S A LOT OF INTERNAL SERVICES THAT ARE IMPORTANT FOR A CITY TO RUN. THOSE WERE EVALUATED ON GOVERNANCE PRIORITIES PLUS SCORING SO THAT INCLUDED ORGANIZATIONAL EXCELLENCE, FISCAL RESPONSIBILITY, EMPLOYEE ENGAGEMENT AND EMPLOYEE RECRUITMENT. SO SOME FIRST LOOKS AT THE OUTCOMES OF THAT CAME FROM THE SOFTWARE. THERE IS AN IMPACT MATRIX WHICH IS GOING TO BE ON THE NEXT SLIDE BUT THIS IS A BIT EASIER TO LOOK AT INITIALLY. SO OF ALL THE DEPARTMENTS AND DIVISIONS WE CAME UP WITH 441 PROGRAMS AND SO THE THE TOOL PLACES ARE PROGRAMS ALONG DIMENSIONS OF COST IMPACT RELIANCE AND MANDATE TO JUST HELP US VISUALIZE WHERE PROGRAMS FALL IN RELATION TO ONE ANOTHER. SO LOOKING AT THOSE 441 PROGRAMS JUST INITIALLY OUR FIRST TIME THROUGH THIS THIS IS HOW IT FELL OUT. SO 106 ARE IN THAT IN THAT GREEN THERE. SO 24% IN THAT HIGH IMPACT LOW COST 122 AND HIGH IMPACT HIGH COST 150 AND THE LOW IMPACT LOW COST AND THEN THE 63 OR 34% AND THE LOW IMPACT HIGH COST. AND SO I KNOW THIS IS VERY SMALL TO READ. WE'RE GOING TO WHAT WE'RE GOING TO BE FOCUSING IN HERE IS ON THE LOWER RIGHT HAND CORNER. SO THIS OVERALL CHART HERE IS ONE OF THE REPORTS THAT WE RECEIVED AFTER PUTTING ALL THE INFORMATION IN AND SO THIS IS THE IMPACT MATRIX. SO IT INCLUDES NOT JUST THE CITIES GENERAL FUND AND HERE IT'S ALSO OUR ENTERPRISE FUNDS. IT'S ALSO OUR INTERNAL SERVICE FUNDS. IT ALSO HAS THE HRA AND IT ALSO HAS THE PORT AUTHORITY BUDGET. SO WE DETERMINED WHEN WE DID THIS WE WANTED TO TAKE A COMPREHENSIVE LOOK AT EVERYTHING. AND SO THE AREA THAT WE'RE FOCUSED THAT WE'VE BEEN FOCUSING IN ON IS IN THE BOTTOM RIGHT SO YOU CAN SEE THAT ON THE VERTICAL ACCESS IT'S AN IMPACT SCORE AND ON THE HORIZONTAL IT'S THE COST AND SO THE AREA WE'RE FOCUSING IN ON IS THAT BOTTOM RIGHT? SO THAT'S SCORED AS LOW IMPACT IN A HIGH COST INITIALLY GOING THROUGH THIS THING. AND SO I WANT TO MAKE THE POINT THAT THAT DOESN'T MEAN THAT THESE PROGRAMS ARE BEING CUT. IT'S JUST A STARTING POINT FOR CONVERSATIONS LIKE JUST TO LOOK INTO THESE BUDGETS AND DIG IN A BIT MORE. AND SO THEN ON THIS NEXT SLIDE THIS IS THE BOTTOM RIGHT CORNER JUST THAT RIGHT HERE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT. SO IT'S THE LOW IMPACT, HIGH COST. SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A CLOSER LOOK AT THAT JUST KIND OF POINT OUT A FEW THINGS JUST INITIALLY THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT SOME WELL FIRST OF ALL, SOME PROGRAMS LANDED HERE BECAUSE OF HOW THE SCORING WORKS. SO YOU KNOW, NOT NOT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT IMPORTANT. THE DOLLAR AMOUNTS ARE IN THIS QUADRANT. YOU CAN SEE IN THE THE LOWER LEFT OR REALLY ZERO ZERO WEIGHING IN ON IS THIS LOW IMPACT, HIGH COST LOW MANDATE AND LOW RELIANCE. AND YOU CAN SEE THAT 59.7 MILLION. SO THAT IS A LARGE NUMBER BUT MORE THAN HALF OF IT THE WAY THAT WE BROUGHT IT ON HERE IT REPRESENTS SO MORE THAN HALF OF THAT IS WASTE WATER INFRASTRUCTURE THAT'S CURRENTLY IN THE 2026 BUDGET REQUEST AND THE WASTE WATER UTILITY FUND. SO WE HAVE THAT FORECASTED FOR 2026 CAPITAL COSTS FOR THE REVENUE THAT WOULD BE OFFSETTING THAT COMING IS FROM BOND PROCEEDS AND THEN THAT WOULD GET PAID BACK OVER TIME WITH WASTEWATER RATE. SO LIKE WASTEWATER REVENUE COMING IN AND SO THE WAY WE PUT THAT ALL IN THERE WE'RE NOT SHOWING THOSE YOU KNOW, BOND PROCEEDS AS LIKE A OFFSETTING REVENUE. WE JUST HAD THAT JUST COMING INTO SHOWS. THAT'S WHY THAT AMOUNT IS SO LARGE. AND THEN ON THIS NEXT SLIDE, JUST SOME OF THE THINGS AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS AND WE'RE TAKING IN ALL OF THIS INFORMATION, A LOT OF INFORMATION CAME BACK TO US THAT WE'RE KIND OF SORTING THROUGH TO BRING BACK TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL CAN MAKE DECISIONS ON AND LOOK AT POSSIBLE SAVINGS OPPORTUNITIES OR REALLOCATIONS. SO ONE OF THE IMPORTANT LESSONS WE LEARNED FROM THIS FIRST SCORE ROUND OF SCORING WAS THE SCORING ON RELIANCE. SO IN OUR INITIAL APPROACH THE INSTRUCTIONS THAT WE GAVE OUT TO EVERYONE IS THAT IF THIS SERVICE COULD BE OUTSOURCED WE MARKED IT AS LOW RELIANCE EVEN IF THE CITY WOULD STILL HAVE TO PAY FOR IT. WE MARKED THAT AS A LOW RELIANCE AND SO THE CHALLENGE IS IS THAT THIS OFTEN DOESN'T RESULT IN ANY BUDGET SAVINGS IF WE STILL NEED TO PROVIDE THE SERVICE BUT WE'RE SIMPLY OUTSOURCING IT SOMETIMES IT'S ACTUALLY MORE EXPENSIVE. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THESE RELIANCE SCORES THAT CAME IN THAT WAS COMING FROM THE AS DEPARTMENTS AND DIVISIONS ARE SCORING ALL THIS AND WE'RE LOOKING AT IT SO LOOKING AT THIS GOING THROUGH THIS PROCESS ONCE AS WE LOOK WHEN WE DO THIS AGAIN NEXT YEAR, WE WILL KEEP THAT IN MIND BECAUSE WHAT WE'RE LOOKING FOR IS LIKE OPPORTUNITIES FOR RESOURCE ALLOCATION OR BUDGET SAVINGS AND JUST OUTSOURCING SOMETHING BUT STILL PROVIDING THAT AND STILL PAYING FOR IT. IT WON'T HAVE WON'T HELP THE TAX LEVY OR THE BUDGET SAVINGS. SO WE'LL KEEP THAT IN MIND FOR FUTURE ROUNDS BUT THAT IS WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT RIGHT NOW DOES HAVE THAT THOUGHT PROCESS IN THE BACK. AND THEN SECOND LOOKING AT INFRASTRUCTURE THAT ARE VERSUS OUR BLOOMINGTON TOMORROW TOGETHER STRATEGIC PLAN COMMUNITY PRIORITIES AS WE REALIZED AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THE RESULTS FROM THIS SCORING THAT THE BLOOMINGTON TOMORROW TOGETHER FRAMEWORK PLACES A STRONG EMPHASIS ON EQUITY HEALTH AND CONNECTIVITY AND BECAUSE OF THAT A LOT OF THE CORE INFRASTRUCTURE PROGRAMS LIKE ROADS AND UTILITIES OR POTHOLE POTHOLE REPAIR ARE SOMETIMES RECEIVED KIND OF LOWER ALIGNMENT LOWER SCORES BECAUSE AND IT'S NOT BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT IMPORTANT BUT IN A SENSE THAT THE STRATEGIC PLAN THAT WE HAVE KIND OF ALREADY TAKES ALL OF THAT AS A GIVEN OR IS EXPECTED TO BE IN PLACE AND WELL DONE. SO WE WERE JUST TAKING THOSE AND SCORING AGAINST IT. THAT'S KIND OF HOW IT FALLS OUT AS FAR AS LIKE A HIGH IMPACT. SO JUST ANOTHER THING THAT WE'RE LEARNING AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS AND THEN FINALLY JUST CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT. SO WE RECEIVED AN 800 PLUS PAGE REPORT WITH ALL OF THE DIFFERENT PROGRAMS AND INSIGHTS THAT WE CAN TAKE IN AND COST SAVING AND LIKE THREE COST SAVING IDEAS FOR EACH ONE OF THOSE PROGRAMS AND ALSO POTENTIALLY REVENUE GENERATING IDEAS AND THERE'S A LOT OF REPEATING AS WELL BUT IT WAS A LOT IT'S A LOT THAT WE'RE GOING THROUGH AND WHAT WE REALIZE A LOT OF THE RECOMMENDATIONS THESE ARE THINGS THAT WE ARE ALREADY DOING LIKE SOME OR WE'RE GOING TO ARE EXPLORING THEM. SO NOW ALSO SOME NEW IDEAS FOR US TO THINK ABOUT AS WELL. BUT IT JUST SHOWS LIKE OUR CULTURE OF IMPROVEMENT IT'S ALREADY VERY STRONG AND IT'S ALREADY VERY EMBEDDED IN OUR ORGANIZATION BUT SOME EMERGING OPPORTUNITIES AND SOME THINGS THAT ARE ALREADY HAPPENING JUST TO SHARE SO GENERAL THEMES THAT KIND OF CAME OUT ARE IN AREAS OF TECHNOLOGY LIKE WORK WITH TECHNOLOGY OR AUTOMATION TO HAVE WORKFLOW IMPROVEMENTS OR JUST WORK IMPROVEMENTS NEW REVENUE GENERATING IDEAS FEE FOR SERVICE MODELS, TIERED FEES, GRANTS AND PARTNERSHIPS OF COURSE WE'RE LOOKING FOR AND THEN JUST OVERALL EFFICIENCY OPTIMIZATION OF THE RESOURCES THAT WE HAVE AND THEN LIKE WHAT I WAS TALKING ABOUT. >> SO SOME OF THE EXAMPLES WHERE THINGS ARE ALREADY IN PLACE THAT WERE CAME UP WITH SUGGESTIONS AND THE REPORT. SO IN PARKS AND RECREATION YOU KNOW AS YOU KNOW WE'RE LOOKING AT NEW REVENUE OPPORTUNITIES, WE'RE LOOKING AT FACILITIES SPONSORSHIP, NAMING RIGHTS. WE'VE ALSO RECENTLY INTRODUCED NONRESIDENT FEES FOR SUMMER CAMP PROGRAMS FOR ADDITIONAL REVENUE IN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT RECENTLY RENTAL FEES WERE INCREASED TO BETTER ALIGN WITH ACTUAL COSTS OF THOSE SERVICES AND IN OCTOBER WE'RE GOING TO BE GOING LIVE WITH AN ONLINE PAYMENT SOLUTION FOR SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS AND ASSESSING WHICH WILL MAKE THE PROCESS EASIER. AND THEN ON THE SIDE THERE'S SOME EXAMPLES OF IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT JUST SEVERAL TECHNOLOGY IMPROVEMENT THAT HAVE BEEN IMPLEMENTED JUST TO BOOST EFFICIENCY AND REDUCE SOME OF THE MANUAL WORKLOADS AND SOME OF THE OPPORTUNITIES FOR ORGANIZATIONAL ALIGNMENT THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT LOOKING THROUGH PARTY BASED BUDGETING THAT'S HIGHLIGHTING SOME OPPORTUNITIES. WE DO SEE SOME POTENTIAL TO INVEST FURTHER IN STRATEGIC COMMUNICATIONS PUBLIC RELATIONS, STRATEGIC PLANNING PERFORMANCE MEASURES JUST USING EXISTING RESOURCES. THERE'S OPPORTUNITIES WITHIN THE INTERNAL ENTERPRISE SERVICES TEAM TO STRENGTHEN CROSS DEPARTMENTAL COLLABORATION SHARE RESOURCES, IMPROVE EFFICIENCY. THIS PROCESS JUST HELPS US PRIORITIZE PROJECTS INITIATIVES THAT ONLINE WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY AND WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY VALUES KIND OF PAUSING TO STOPPING ON THOSE THINGS THAT MAYBE ARE NOT AS EFFECTIVE OR NOT AS EFFICIENT. IT ALSO BUILDS ON THE RECENT SERVICE EVALUATIONS AND CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT WORK ALREADY. SO WHILE COST SAVINGS MIGHT NOT BE IMMEDIATE, THIS DEFINITELY SETS THE STAGE FOR SOME LONG TERM IMPROVEMENTS AND THESE AREAS AND SO JUST LOOKING AHEAD SO THIS THIS FIRST YEAR HAS IT'S BEEN A HEAVY LIFT. IT'S BEEN A DEFINITE LEARNING PROCESS AS WE'RE GOING THROUGH ALL THIS I THINK IT'S BEEN MENTIONED BEFORE WE'RE MAYBE DOING THIS A BIT FASTER THAN SOME OTHER CITIES HAVE TAKEN IT ON AND ALSO BY NOT JUST DOING ONE DEPARTMENT OR ONE DIVISION WE DID EVERYTHING AT ONCE BUT WE BECAUSE WE WANTED TO KIND OF GET IT ALL IN AND REVIEW IT TOGETHER. SO WE'RE STILL REVIEWING THE RECOMMENDATIONS AND THE DATA AND DEPARTMENTS WILL BE BRINGING FORWARD SOME BUDGET SAVING IDEAS OPPORTUNITIES DURING THEIR PRESENTATIONS VERY SOON. IT DOES THIS PARTY BASED BUDGETING IT DOES GIVE US A FRESH PERSPECTIVE ON SOMETHING THAT WE'VE ALWAYS WORKED TOWARD WHICH IS CONNECTING OUR BUDGET OR YOUR BUDGET DECISIONS BACK TO COMMUNITY PRIORITIES AND VALUES. AND SO LOOKING AHEAD WE'RE ALSO PLANNING TO HOPEFULLY WE'RE GOING TO BE LOOKING AT MOVING TO A TWO YEAR BUDGET CYCLE. SO THIS WOULD BE FOR NEXT YEAR . SO STARTING FOR THE 2027 2028 BUDGET AND SO THAT WOULD LET US HAVE KIND OF AN OFF CYCLE BUDGET YEAR WHERE WE CAN BE DEDICATED MORE TO PERFORMANCE MEASUREMENT AND REPORTING AND THAT WOULD JUST HELP US REINFORCE ACCOUNTABILITY AND CONTINUOUS IMPROVEMENT. SO FINALLY THIS IS THE BUDGET CALENDAR THAT YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE. SO FROM NOW TO THE END OF YEAR WE'RE GOING TO BE HERE AT EVERY SINGLE COUNCIL MEETING. I'LL BE HERE, DEPARTMENTS WILL BE HERE AND JUST GOING INTO MORE DETAIL ABOUT THE BUDGETS, TRYING TO REFINE IT DOWN FOR THE THE FINAL TAX LEVY SO THAT THAT'LL BE IN OCTOBER. THE UTILITY RATE HEARING IS GOING TO BE AND NOVEMBER TRUTH AND TAXATION DECEMBER EIGHTH AND THEN THE FINAL BUDGET DECISION AT THE END OF THE SUMMER AND THAT IS I HAVE SO I'M HERE FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH. BEFORE WE GET INTO QUESTIONS COUNCIL I THINK AT 5 TO 9 I'M ASSUMING WE'RE GOING TO GO PAST THIS SO I'M JUST GOING TO SAY REMOTE MAKE A MOTION THAT WE EXTEND OUR DEADLINE TO NO LATER THAN 915 THIS EVENING. MOTION IN A SECOND TO EXTEND OUR DEADLINE TO NO LATER THAN 915 THIS EVENING. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO AND NOW OPEN IT UP FOR DISCUSSION AND I AND I WILL REMIND YOU COUNCIL I MEAN IT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION A GOOD OVERVIEW KIND OF A 10,000 FOOT LOOK I WOULD HATE TO GET TOO DEEP IN THE WEEDS BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT WE WILL BE DOING OVER THE NEXT 8 TO 12 WEEKS HERE. SO QUESTIONS COMMENTS. COUNCILMEMBER GRATEFUL THANK YOU MAYOR I GUESS I WOULD JUST SAY I'M REALLY EXCITED ABOUT THIS. I LOVE THE WAY THE MATRIX IS LAID OUT WITH THE LOW IMPACT HIGH COST THINGS LIKE THAT. I THINK IT'S GOING TO BE REALLY HELPFUL MOVING FORWARD AND I APPRECIATE THAT YOU NAMED SOME OF THE LESSONS LEARNED IN KIND OF PROBABLY SOME THINGS THAT AREN'T PERFECT ABOUT IT AT THIS POINT BUT THAT WE CAN LEARN FROM. I DID HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION WHEN YOU WERE TALKING THROUGH THE LOW IMPACT HIGH COST SCENARIOS AND YOU GAVE THE EXAMPLE OF A WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE BEING OVER HALF THE COST, I GUESS I'M LIKE HOW DID WASTEWATER INFRASTRUCTURE GET BUCKETED INTO LOW IMPACT? YES, BECAUSE OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN. YES. OUR MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER CARTER I DO BECAUSE OF HOW WE WERE ALIGNING THINGS WITH OUR BEATY IT WAS HARD TO FIND PLACES WHERE THINGS LIKE UTILITY INFRASTRUCTURE AND ROAD INFRASTRUCTURE HIGHLY ALIGNED WITH THE STRATEGIC PLAN AND JUST AS WE AS WE'VE BEEN HAVING CONVERSATIONS IT'S KIND OF LIKE IT'S JUST SORT OF LIKE THAT'S THE GROUND YOU KNOW, SURFACE AND FOUNDATION THAT MAYBE ISN'T HIGHLIGHTED SPECIFICALLY IN OUR IN THE STRATEGIC PLAN RIGHT NOW. SO THERE'S A CHANCE THAT LIKE HALF OF THOSE PROGRAMS OR HALF OF THE MANY DOLLARS THERE WOULD ACTUALLY BE PROBABLY IN HIGH IMPACT, HIGH COST I GUESS THINGS THAT WE JUST HAVE TO DO. OKAY. THANK YOU. AND I WON'T GO INTO DETAIL QUESTIONS KNOWING THAT WE WILL HAVE THOSE CONVERSATIONS LATER SO THANK YOU. I HAVE THE SAME QUESTION ABOUT WASTEWATER THOUGH THAT'S EXACTLY COUNCILMEMBER THEME HERE. JUST A QUICK COMMENT. APPRECIATE YOU COREY, FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT AND LAYING THIS OUT. I'M REALLY EXCITED. I DID THIS FOR MY JOB DURING THE PANDEMIC AND SO THE ONE THING I WANT TO SHARE WITH THE COUNCIL AND WITH RESIDENTS IS IT'S REALLY TEMPTING TO JUST JUMP INTO THAT LOW IMPACT HIGH COST BUCKET AND JUST SAY CUT EVERYTHING. BUT AS YOU SHARED, THAT'S JUST NOT THE CASE. AND SO I REALLY AM LOOKING FORWARD TO THE DEEPER CONVERSATIONS THAT ARE GOING TO HAVE IN THE NEXT FEW WEEKS TO GO THROUGH AND UNDERSTAND WHAT EXACTLY FALLS IN THERE SO THAT WHEN WE DO MAKE CUTS OR HAVE FIND OPPORTUNITIES TO SAVE MONEY FOR RESIDENTS AND OR MOVE THINGS INTO DIFFERENT SPACES THAT HAVE HIGHER IMPACT, WE CAN DO THAT. AND IT'S NOT JUST THE BLANKET LOOK AT IT. SO THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON THANK YOU MAYOR. I JUST HAD TWO QUICK REQUESTS FOR OUR UPCOMING BUDGET MEETINGS. CAN WE GET AT LEAST A DRAFT OF THE PRESENTATION AND THE DATA EARLIER BECAUSE I'M ASSUMING THAT'S GOING TO BE A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF VOLUME TO REVIEW IF THE WHOLE REPORT IS 800 PAGES AND THEN I DIDN'T SEE IN THE BUDGET PROCESS WHERE WE'RE GOING TO LOOK AT OUR WORKING CAPITAL ACCOUNTS. I KNOW IT'S A DIFFERENT PRECT. WILL WE STILL BE LOOKING AT THOSE THIS FALL? YES, MAYOR COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON SO WE'LL TRY TO GET THE BUDGET MATERIALS OUT AS SOON AS POSSIBLE TO REVIEW AND AND OUR INTENT IS NOT TO PUT OUT I THINK ALL OF EVERYTHING THAT WAS THERE THERE IS A LOT OF REPETITION SO MAYBE PUTTING LIKE SUMMARIZING THAT INTO OVERALL THEMES AND HAVING YOU KNOW, THINGS THAT ARE MANAGEABLE TO MAKE DECISIONS ON AND REACT TO BUT WE WILL TRY TO GET THAT OUT EARLIER AND THEN I THINK OCTOBER 20TH IS THE CITY COUNCIL MEETING THAT WE'RE HOPING TO HAVE A PRESENTATION ON THE RESERVES. OKAY. THANK YOU. OTHERS COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU SIR. THANK YOU FOR PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. I APPRECIATE IT. I'M EXCITED TO SEE IT AS WELL. I THINK I THINK THE MOST IMPORTANT THING WE CAN DO IS MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE CLEAR ABOUT HOW YOU KNOW, THE ARTICULATION OF WHAT IS A PRIORITY THEN TO UNDERSTAND, YOU KNOW, WHY SOMETHING FALLS INTO HIGH OR LOW IMPACT AGAINST THAT PRIORITY BECAUSE WITHOUT THAT WE CAN ALL CONTEXTUALIZE IT TO OUR OWN ENDS RIGHT? AND SO WE WANT TO BE SURE WE HAVE A CLARITY ON THAT SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO WHATEVER IN THE DISCUSSION COMING UP WE'RE GOING TO SIT DOWN AND TALK ABOUT EXPLICITLY YOU KNOW WHAT HOW THAT CRITERIA WAS DETERMINED THAT LESSONS LEARNED AND HOW IT'S BEEN ACCOMMODATED AND WHAT CHANGES HAVE BEEN MADE AND THEN SPECIFICALLY, YOU KNOW, WHEN WE SAY HIGH IMPACT OR LOW IMPACT, WE KNOW WE ALL COLLECTIVELY KNOW WHAT THAT MEANS AND WE'RE NOT CAN WE'RE NOT YOU KNOW, CONJURING UP IN OUR OWN MINDS WHAT WE THINK IT MEANS LIKE AND NEITHER IS THE PUBLIC BECAUSE WE'VE BEEN VERY UPFRONT AND CLEAR ABOUT WHAT THAT MEANT TO IN A STRUCTURAL WAY. SO I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO THAT. I HAD ONE QUESTION ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT MIGHT ALREADY BE IN PLAY. SO YOU I THINK YOU HAD IN HERE THAT THERE WERE SOME THINGS THAT WERE ACTUALLY ALREADY GOING ON IN PARKS AND COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND POLICING AROUND THIS STUFF. >> DO DO WE AS THOSE THINGS ARE GOING ON RIGHT NOW, ARE WE ARE WE ANTICIPATING THAT THEY WILL DRIVE ANY ANY ADJUSTMENTS DOWNWARD TO THAT THE LEVY RECOMMENDATION THE PRELIMINARY RECOMMENDATION WE MADE GOING INTO 2026, ARE THESE REALLY ABOUT LIKE WHAT IN 2026 WE'D SEE YOU KNOW, BEGINNING TO MAKE AN IMPACT GOING INTO 2027 MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER RANDALL SANDRO SO RIGHT NOW I DON'T HAVE ANY DOLLARS COMING DOWN BASED ON THOSE EXAMPLES BUT WE'LL CONTINUE TO LOOK AT THAT AND THERE ARE THINGS THAT ESPECIALLY FOR THE NAMING RIGHTS AND SPONSORSHIP WE DON'T HAVE ANY OF THAT AS PART OF ANY OF OUR FUTURE BUDGETS SO THAT WOULD JUST HELP THINGS A LOT MORE THAN WHAT WE'RE PROJECTING OUT NOW. YEAH. OKAY. AND THEN SO SO GOING INTO THE FOLLOWING YEARS WHEN WE COULD SEE YOU KNOW BASED ON RECOMMENDATIONS OUT OF HERE WHAT WHAT MIGHT BE DRIVING I'M GOING TO USE THE WORDS DRIVING DOWN COST BUT THAT'S NOT NECESSARILY WHAT'S HAPPENING. WE'RE IMPROVING A LOT OF THINGS POTENTIALLY WE'RE REALLOCATING I UNDERSTAND ALL THAT. AND THEN AND THEN IN TERMS OF LIKE THE COMMENT YOU MADE IN HERE ABOUT PLACES WHERE WE CAN ALIGN ORGANIZATIONALLY IN IN YOUR MIND DOES THAT AT THE MOMENT HAVE A STAFF IMPACT MEANING IS THAT AN ORGANIZATION OR CHANGE CONSTRUCT THAT YOU'RE CONSIDERING? IS THERE REDUCTION IN STAFF INCREASE IN STAFF? LIKE WHAT IS THE WHAT IS THE BECAUSE AND YOU KNOW WE'RE A SERVICES BUSINESS RIGHT IS 77% OF THE BUDGET IS MADE UP OF THE PEOPLE THAT PROVIDE THOSE SERVICES SO WHAT IS THE IMPACT WHAT'S MOVING I GUESS REGARDLESS OF IN WHAT DIRECTION, WHAT'S MOVING AS IT RELATES TO STAFF BUDGET? >> MAYOR COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO I DON'T HAVE ALL THOSE DETAILS RIGHT NOW READY JUST TO SHARE BUT WE'LL BE GETTING I THINK THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING THAT WILL BE HERE IN OCTOBER WE'LL HAVE MORE DETAILS ABOUT THAT BUT ABOUT SOME SOME OF THOSE YOU'RE NOT NOTICING ANY HIGH LEVEL TRENDS OR ANYTHING THAT AT THE MOMENT? NO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. THANKS. APPRECIATE IT. COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN THEN COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS. COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN. OH, THANK YOU FOR THIS THIS HIGH LEVEL OVERVIEW. YOU KNOW EVERY YOU'RE AT GO TO THE NATIONAL CITY'S CONFERENCE THEY'D HAVE SOMEBODY TALKING ABOUT ABOUT THIS AND I ALWAYS WONDER WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE TO HAVE IT COME FORWARD HERE IN BLOOMINGTON. SO NOW WE'RE THERE AND I APPRECIATE THE FOUR PRINCIPLES THAT THAT ARE THERE THAT TRANSPARENCY ALIGNMENT, BALANCE AND SUSTAINABILITY AS KIND OF THE THE FOUNDATION OF THIS PRIORITY BASED BUDGETS. AND SO WHAT I KIND OF WONDER ABOUT AGAIN TO KIND OF KEEP IT HIGH LEVEL FOR THOSE RESIDENTS THAT ARE INTERESTED IN SEEING WHAT OTHER AND I'M NOT GOING TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT I HATE THAT PEOPLE DO THAT TO ME SO I'M GOING TO DO THAT TO YOU. BUT YOU KNOW, FOR THOSE RESIDENTS THAT ARE MAYBE INTERESTED IN SEEING WHAT OTHER CITIES HAVE DONE OR OTHER EXAMPLE CITIES THAT HAVE HAD THAT, WOULD YOU HAVE ANY RECOMMENDATION CARDS AND YOU COULD CERTAINLY ANSWER THIS LATER ON IN TERMS OF, YOU KNOW, BEST PRACTICES, YOU KNOW, AROUND TRANSPARENCY OR ALIGNMENT OR BALANCE OR SUSTAINABILITY SO THAT THAT THAT OUR RESIDENTS WHO KIND OF SEE KIND OF YOU KNOW, WHERE WHERE WE'RE GOING WITH THIS AND WHAT WHAT BENEFIT IS SEEN BY BY DOING THIS AND AGAIN I DON'T WANT TO PUT YOU ON THE SPOT FOR THAT BUT THOSE ARE KIND OF THE THINGS THAT I THINK ARE REALLY I'M REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO AS WE GO DOWN THIS PROCESS UP HERE AS IS YOU KNOW, HAVING A LITTLE MORE OF A VIEWPOINT IN A MORE SOPHISTICATED CONVERSATION AND CERTAINLY STAFF HAS DONE A PHENOMENAL JOB FROM WHEN I GOT STARTED TO WHERE WE ARE TODAY IN TERMS OF OF OF ALL THESE THESE THINGS. AND I REALLY THINK THIS IS REALLY ALLOWS THAT ALIGNMENT AND THAT BALANCE AND THAT SUSTAINABILITY AS WE KIND OF MOVE FORWARD TO KIND OF REALLY BE MUCH MORE TRANSPARENT TO RESIDENTS OUT THERE THAT THEY CAN SEE THAT WE REALLY ARE YOU KNOW, THE STAFF IS REALLY DOING THE HARD WORK TO TRY TO MAKE OUR PRIORITIES HAPPEN. SO THANK YOU FOR ALL THAT YOU DO. COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS I'M GOING TO DO THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME IN ALMOST TWO YEARS SO PLEASE CLAP AFTERWARDS. I'M KIDDING. THANK YOU FOR ALL THE HARD WORK THAT YOU AND ALL THE FINANCE STAFF AND EVERYBODY INVOLVED IN THE BUDGET HAVE DONE. I JUST HAVE ONE QUICK QUESTION. WOULD YOU BE ADJUSTING THE THE PROGRAMS OR SERVICES THAT HAVE BEEN AFFECTED BY PBB IN A NEGATIVE WAY? BUT YOU KNOW, WE I UNDERSTAND WHAT THE WHOLE THING IS BUT WOULD YOU BE PUT IN ADJUSTING THOSE SERVICES OR PROGRAMS AND PUTTING THEM INTO A PRIORITY LIKE THE WATER THE WASTEWATER? RIGHT. AND WE KNOW IS A PRIORITY BUT IT'S NOT BECAUSE OF A DESIGN. WOULD YOU BE ADJUSTING THAT TO REFLECT THE PROPER IMPORTANCE OF THOSE SERVICES IN THE FUTURE SO MAYOR COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER RIVAS SO RIGHT NOW WE HAVE AS IT WAS A LOT OF EFFORT TO TO GET WHERE WE ARE NOW IN THIS THIS INITIAL REPORTS THAT WE HAVE. SO WE'RE JUST USING ALL OF THAT TO START DISCUSSIONS, TO START STRATEGIC DISCUSSIONS OF POTENTIAL THINGS THAT WE COULD LOOK AT CHANGING OR DOING DIFFERENTLY. SO WE HAVE A LOT OF IDEAS FROM WHAT WE HAVE THIS FIRST TIME THROUGH THAT WE CAN COME BACK AND HAVE SOME IDEAS FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER BUT LIKE I WAS SAYING BEFORE, WE'RE NOT GOING TO JUST TAKE THE SOFTWARE RESULTS HOW IT CAME OUT AND SAY WELL THIS IS WHAT IT'S SAID TO DO AND JUST PROPOSE THAT THAT'S WHAT WE DO. SO IT'S MORE IT'S IT'S JUST ANOTHER TOOL. WE STILL HAVE TO DO EVERYTHING WE'VE ALWAYS DONE WITH THE BUDGETS. THIS IS JT ANOTHER THING THAT WE HAVE TO HELP GUIDE OUR DECISION SO THAT WE'RE NOT JUST LOOKING AT CUTTING IN DIFFERENT PLACES BY A PERCENTAGE OR JUST INCREASING TAXES. SO IT JUST GIVES US MORE TOOLS TO COME UP WITH IDEAS, OPPORTUNITIES, CHANGES THAT YOU COULD CONSIDER. OKAY. THANK YOU. IT COULD BE COUNCIL ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS ON THIS. COMMENTS THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT, LOOK FORWARD TO THE CONVERSATION AS IT RAMPS UP AND WE HEAD TOWARD THE FINISH LINE IN DECEMBER. YES. GREAT. THANK YOU. COUNCIL OUR LAST ITEM TONIGHT IS OUR COUNCIL POLICY AND ISSUE UPDATE. I TYPICALLY LEAD OFF WITH OUR LISTENING SESSION. WE DID NOT HAVE A LISTENING SESSION BECAUSE WE DID A CELEBRATION FOR OUR HATCH BLOOMINGTON WINTER AND REALLY LOOKING FORWARD TO MOTHER GETTING OPEN IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND IT WAS WONDERFUL TO HAVE THEM HERE THIS EVENING. E TWO THINGS THAT I DO WANT TO REPORT ON VERY QUICKLY. LAST WEEK I ATTENDED A COMMUNITY CONVERSATION KIND OF PANEL DISCUSSION REGARDING GUN VIOLENCE IN EDINA AT THE DINER LUTHERAN CHURCH. IT INCLUDED REPRESENTATIVES GREEN COULTER AND ELKINS FROM BLOOMINGTON AS WELL AS SENATOR MANN FROM WHO REPRESENTS BLOOMINGTON AS WELL AS HEALTH CARE PROFESSIONALS MAYOR LOVELAND FROM EDINA AND MYSELF AND WE ALL PARTICIPATED AND IT WAS A VERY GOOD HOUR AND A HALF TWO HOUR DISCUSSION ABOUT POSSIBILITIES, OPTIONS WHAT THE PATH FORWARD MIGHT BE AND I APPRECIATED THE WILLINGNESS OF EVERYBODY TO KEEP THIS TOPIC THIS VERY IMPORTANT TOPIC AT THE FOREFRONT AS WE CONTINUE TO HAVE THIS CONVERSATION BECAUSE I THINK OUR BIGGEST DANGER IN ALL OF THIS IS TO LET THE FIRE GO OUT AND TO BECOME DISTRACTED BY OTHER THINGS LIKE TYLENOL AND THAT KIND OF THING AND JUST TO NOT REALLY KEEP OUR EYE ON THE BALL ON THE IMPORTANT THINGS HERE. SO I, I WAS APPRECIATIVE TO BE INVOLVED WITH THAT AND TO BE PART OF THE CONVERSATION. AND SOMEWHAT RELATEDLY TOMORROW HERE IN BLOOMINGTON WE WILL BE HOSTING OUR FIRST TRI-CITY MENTAL HEALTH SUMMIT AND THE TRI-CITIES OBVIOUSLY BEING BLOOMINGTON, INDIANA AND RICHFIELD, THE THREE CITIES SERVED BY THE BLOOMINGTON PUBLIC HEALTH DEPARTMENT AND THIS MENTAL HEALTH SUMMIT WILL BE A DAYLONG OPPORTUNITY TO TO LOOK AT COMMUNITY CARE AS IT RELATES TO MENTAL HEALTH, HOW TO REIMAGINE IT, HOW WE'RE DOING WELL IN AH THREE CITIES, HOW WE COULD BE DOING BETTER AND WHAT THE DIFFERENT POSSIBILITIES WOULD BE. I'M EXCITED ABOUT THE CONVERSATION AND EXCITED TO TO HEAR WHAT OTHERS HAVE TO SAY AND EXCITED BECAUSE AGAIN TO KEEP THE THIS CONVERSATION AT THE FOREFRONT AND SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO TALK ABOUT CERTAINLY MENTAL HEALTH IS PART OF THE SOLUTION TO ALL OF THIS OR AT LEAST A PIECE OF THE PUZZLE. BUT IT CAN'T BE JUST RELEGATED TO JUST KIND OF A THROWAWAY COMMENT THAT WE NEED MORE MENTAL HEALTH RESOURCES IN OUR COMMUNITIES WHICH WE ABSOLUTELY DO. WE'VE GOT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE PUT OUR MONEY WHERE OUR MOUTH IS AND PUT OUR EFFORTS WHERE OUR MOUTH IS AND THAT THIS NOTION OF ADDITIONAL MENTAL HEALTH RESOURCES SIMPLY DOESN'T BECOME THE NEW THOUGHTS AND PRAYERS WHERE WE'RE JUST KIND OF TOSSING IT AWAY AND SAYING MORE MENTAL HEALTH RESOURCES WHEN IN FACT IT'S JUST AS ALL TACTIC TO DO NOTHING. SO I'M EXCITED ABOUT IT. I WILL BE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE SUMMIT TOMORROW AND WE'LL REPORT BACK. I'M SURE YOU'LL BE HEARING A LOT MORE ABOUT IT. SO COUNCILMEMBER CARTER, THANK YOU FOR THOSE UPDATES AND THANK YOU FOR THE WORK THAT YOU'RE DOING AROUND THOSE ISSUES. HAPPY TO REALLY APPRECIATE IT . I DO HAVE A DIFFERENT ONE SO I CANNOT HELP BUT NOTICE WHEN I GO AROUND NORMANDY I'LL JUST THE WATER QUALITY AROUND LIKE NORMANDY. AND SO I'M WONDERING IF IN THE NEXT JUSTICE COUNCIL BRIEFING YOU CAN'T READ WHAT WE CALL IT NOW IF WE COULD GET SOME INFORMATION ON WHAT THE PLANS ARE FOR THE LAKE I KNOW FOR SEVERAL YEARS THERE WERE EFFORTS TO CLEAN UP THE CURLY LEAF INVASIVE SPECIES. I THINK ALL OF THAT IS PRETTY MUCH DIED OFF NOW OR LIKE I DON'T KNOW IT'S GONE DORMANT. I DON'T KNOW WHAT TECHNICALLY HAPPENS BUT NOW THERE'S LOTS OF ALGAE AND IT'S JUST IT DOES NOT LOOK GREAT AND SO JUST WONDERING WHAT THE PLANS ARE MOVING FORWARD. AND THEN THE OTHER PIECE IS I THINK THAT THAT TUNNEL THAT GOES UNDER NORMANDY PROBABLY IS HENNEPIN COUNTY INFRASTRUCTURE. I WOULD ASSUME THE PEDESTRIAN AND BIKE PATH AND THAT REALLY IS STARTING TO LIKE CRUMBLE INTO THE NINE MILE CREEK AND SO AND THERE'S LIKE A BIKE TIRE IN THE CREEK AND IT JUST DOESN'T LOOK GREAT DOWN THERE. AND SO JUST WONDERING IF THERE ARE ANY FUTURE PLANS BY THE COUNTY TO KIND OF FIX THE SIDEWALK DOWN THERE AND THEN I DON'T KNOW WHO IS RESPONSIBLE FOR CLEANING UP THE CREEK IN THAT AREA BUT A FEW THINGS THAT I HAVE NOTICED LATELY AND HAVE BEEN ON MY MIND WE WILL FOLLOW UP WITH THAT. COUNCIL MEMBER CARTER THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCILMEMBER LOGAN. SO JUST A FEW THINGS HERE. I WANTED TO MENTION THAT I WAS GONE OBVIOUSLY A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO AND I WAS ATTENDING THE FOREIGN TRADE ZONE WHILE MAYOR THAT'S A HEAVY LIFTING AS IT WERE AND BASICALLY THE FOREIGN TRADE ZONES OF THE STATE IN SHORT REALLY HELP OUR REGIONAL LOCAL BUSINESSES AND THOSE FOLKS ARE TRYING TO REDUCE THE AMOUNT OF WHAT THEY HAVE TO PAY FOR THEIR THEIR DIFFERENT ITEMS THAT THEY SELL AND THAT TYPE OF THI AND TRY TO REDUCE THAT AND IT'S MUCH WAY MORE COMPLICATED THAN THAT AND I'M TRYING TO SUMMARIZE IT VERY CAREFULLY BUT IT DOES HELP IT'S A JOB ENGINE FOR FOR OUR REGION AND ALSO FOR OUR BUSINESSES AND THAT IT'S A WAY OF PROTECTING THOSE RESOURCES THAT THEY HAVE IN BRIEF. AND SO I HAD A CHANCE TO TO DO KIND OF AN INITIAL TRAINING ON THAT AND I'M LOOKING FORWARD TO HAVING ADDITIONAL TRAINING ON THAT AS WE MOVE FORWARD. I WANTED TO MENTION IN OUR CONSENT AGENDA WE HAD 316 THE THE ASSESSMENT ROLL UPDATE FOR THE EIGHT 8444 EMERSON AVENUE SOUTH AND THAT CAME BEFORE US AND AND CERTAINLY LOTS OF CONCERNS THERE AND A LOT OF WORK THAT WAS DONE BY OUR STAFF AND CERTAINLY I TALKED TO CITY MANAGER AND THE MAYOR ABOUT MY CONCERNS AROUND THAT AND THOSE ARE OUT THERE. BUT THE THING I REALLY WANTED TO BRING FORWARD IS JUST HOW MUCH HOW APPRECIATIVE I AM AND I'M SURE MANY OF MY COLLEAGUES UP HERE ARE OF THE WORK THAT STAFF DID OVER THOSE SEVERAL YEARS OF TRYING TO BRING THAT INTO COMPLIANCE AND THEN WE'RE ABLE TO DO THAT AND WANT TO JUST THINK STAFF FOR ALL OF THAT WORK THAT WAS DONE I KIND OF MOVING FORWARD WITH THAT AND THEN THE THE THE LAST THING I HAD WAS AROUND I KNOW THAT THERE WAS A SECONDARY MEETING WITH THOSE FOLKS WITH THE COMMUNITY CENTER AROUND NEWTON AVENUE AS WE TRY TO WORK TO TRY TO FIND A SOLUTION FOR THAT AND I WANT TO THANK STAFF FOR THEIR WORK WITH THAT AND CERTAINLY I'M SURE THERE'LL BE SOME TYPE OF UPDATE LATER ON. I KNOW WE'RE WE'RE SHORT ON TIME SO I WON'T I WON'T ASK THAT QUESTION TONIGHT. I JUST WANT TO LET FOLKS KNOW THAT THAT THERE IS WORK BEING DONE THERE. THANKS, COUNCILMEMBER. ANYTHING ELSE? COUNCIL MR. HOLZMAN. >> TWO BRIEF UPDATES MAYOR AND CITY COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER ALLUDED THIS WAS RECOGNIZING THE TRAGEDIES THAT OCCURRED ON TWO SEPARATE CONSTRUCTION SITES THIS PAST WEEK IN BURNSVILLE, MAPLE GROVE MANDATE ISSUED TODAY A MANDATORY STAND ON A STAND DOWN AS A REFLECTION TO JUST ACKNOWLEDGE WHAT HAPPENED AND JUST TO REFLECT THAT OUR YOU KNOW, PUBLIC WORKS OUR PUBLIC SAFETY WORKERS ARE JUST AS IN THE LINE OF DUTY AS MUCH AS OUR FIRE AND POLICE AND A LOT OF THINGS CAN HAPPEN. AND SO JUST TO BE VERY CAREFUL WHEN ON THE ROAD YOU KNOW, NOT LOOKING AT PHONE AND PAYING ATTENTION, THAT'S JUST REALLY IMPORTANT. AND THE SECOND THING SOMEWHAT RELATED IS OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT WON FIRST PLACE ON AN ONLINE ALL TRAFFIC SOLUTIONS SOCIAL MEDIA CAMPAIGN OF SHOW YOUR SIGN AND THIS IS FOR A CONTEST ON SPEED RIDERS AND IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT WE GET A FREE SIGN AND A ONE YEAR SUBSCRIPTION TO SUPPORT THAT WORK AS WELL. SO WE GOT FIRST PLACE OUT OF TOWN ACROSS THE NATION AGAIN THAT MESSAGE IS SLOW DOWN, WATCH WHAT YOU'RE DOING AND OUR STAFF ARE ON THE FRONT LINE AND IT'S VERY UNSAFE AND SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP OUR EYES ON THE ROAD. THAT'S IT. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT? COMMENTS OTHER THAN I JUST GET TIRED OF SO MUCH WINNING IT'S JUST A COLD SO WE'VE COME TO THE END OF OUR AGENDA AND I THINK WE'VE GOT EVERYTHING COMPLETED THIS EVENING WITH THAT AND ENTERTAIN A MOTION TO ADJOURN SO MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER CARTER SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER TO ADJOURN THIS EVENING ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SEVEN ZERO THANKS FOR YOUR WORK TONIGHT COUNCIL THANK YOU STAFF AND THANKS TO EVERYBODY WHO JOINED US ONLINE AND IN-PERSON EVERYBODY HAVE A GREAT REST OF THE WEEK