>>COUN. BENTON: THE 11th MEETING OF THE 25th COUNCIL WILL COME TO ORDER. ALL COUNCILORS ARE PRESENT THIS EVENING. WE'LL GET STARTED WITH THE MOMENT OF SILENCE FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OUT OF LIEGEANCE -- ALLEGIANCE IN ENGLISH BY COUNCILOR SANCHEZ AND SPANISH BY COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. WE'LL GET STARTED WITH PROCLAMATIONS. STARTING WITH COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I KNOW WE'RE -- THANK YOU. WE HAVE A FEW FOLKS WITH US THIS EVENING EAR IN THE CHAMBER. WE'LL HAVE NICOLE ROGERS FROM THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY. SHE'S INVITED THE FOLLOWING MEMBERS OF THE TEAM TO ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATION WITH HER. TORRANCE GREEN, JEREMY JASPER, DEE BROWN, BISHOP DAVID COOPER. HI. I'LL START BY READING THE PROCLAMATION. WHEREAS, JUNETEENTH ALSO KNOWN AS EMANCIPATION DAY COMMEMORATES THE END OF SLAVERY IN THE UNITED STATES AND OBSERVED ON JUNE 19th, AND WHEREAS IN TEXAS ON IN JUNE 19th THE ANNOUNCE OF BOTH CIVIL WAR END AND SLAVERY SAYING THE PEOPLE OF TEXAS ARE INFORMED WITH ACCORDANCE OF THE PROCLAMATION ALL SLAVES ARE FREE. THIS INVOLVED AN ABSOLUTE EQUITY OF PERSONAL RIGHTS AND RIGHTS OF PROPERTY BETWEEN FORMER MASTERS AND SLAVES AND THE CONNECTION EXISTING BETWEEN THEM BECOMES THAT BETWEEN AN EMPLOYER AND HIRED LABOR. AND WHEREAS THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE CALLED UPON THE RESIDENCE TO ACKNOWLEDGE AND CELEBRATE THE END OF THE CIVIL WAR AND THE EMANCIPATION OF BLACK AMERICANS AND COMMIT TO ERADICATING SYSTEMIC RACISM THAT UNDERMINES FOUNDING ADEALS. AND THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE RESTRUCTURED THE HUMAN RIGHTS INTO THE OFFICE OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION AND OFFICE OF CIVIL RIGHTS TO BETTER ADDRESS RACIAL DISPARITY AND ACHIEVE EQUITY. WHEREAS THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE IS COMMITTED TO SUPPORTING COMMUNITY ANNUAL JUNETEENTH EVENTS INCLUDING BUILDING AN ECONOMY AND A CITY THAT BUILDS THE NATION. AND THE ALBUQUERQUE CREATED THE OFFICE OF BLACK COMMUNITY ENGAGE WANT TO ENGAGE BLACK COMMUNITY AND LISTEN TO DIVERSE VOICES AND INCREASE ACCESS TO CITY JOB AND RESOURCES. BE IT PROCLAIMED THE GOVERNING BODY OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE PROCLAIMS JUNE 19D -- 19th AS JUNETEENTH. CONGRATULATIONS. [ APPLAUSE ]. >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. PRESIDENT, IF YOU WANT TO SHARE A FEW WORDS. >> THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO SAY THANK YOU, COUNCILOR PEÑA, FOR SPONSORING THIS AND TO THE COUNCIL FOR SIGNING THIS. I WANT TO GIVE MORE TIME TO THE COMMUNITY. SO THEY CAN TALK. >> THANK YOU, MUCH, FOR HAVING US TODAY. I WANT THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING US. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE CHALLENGES GOING ON, WE'RE AWARE OF THEM. WE THINK ABOUT JUNETEENTH AS A SPECIAL TIME WHERE PEOPLE RECOGNIZE SLAVERY ENDED. I THINK ABOUT IT BIGGER. WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE CHALLENGES WE'VE HAD FOR OVER 200 YEARS, ONE THING WE CAN BE PROUD ABOUT IS THIS CONTINUAL STRUGGLE TO MAKE THINGS RIGHT FOR ALL PEOPLE. THAT'S WHAT WE SHOULD BE PROUD OF. WE DO THE RIGHT THING FOR THE RIGHT PEOPLE, NOT JUST FOR PEOPLE OF COLOR, FOR EVERYONE. WE ALL WIN IN THE END. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. ANYONE ELSE WANT TO SHARE? EVERYBODY'S LIKE YOU DO IT. >> WE'RE GOING TO DO THE FINAL WALK THROUGH. WE WANT TO FORMALLY INVITE YOU TO JOIN US. WE'RE PLANNING A TWO-DAY FESTIVAL JUNE 18th AND 19th. WE'LL GET YOU THAT INFORMATION. WE LOVE TO HAVE YOU READ OUR PROCLAMATION FOR THE OPENING. AND HAVE YOU CELEBRATE WITH US. I HOPE YOU CAN MAKE IT. AND WE'LL BE BACK NEXT YEAR FOR FUNDING FOR YOUR EVENTS. IT'S A MAJOR EVENT FOR US. AND IT'S ALL HEAVILY SPONSORED BY A LOT OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN BUSINESSES. THE CITY HELPS OUT A LOT. IT REALLY IS THIS GROUP OF PEOPLE HITTING THE PAVEMENT AND GETTING THE SPONSORSHIP TO GET THE CELEBRATION. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. WE LOOK FORWARD TO IT. IF YOU COULD, MR. PRESIDENT, WE'LL GET THE PROCLAMATION TO YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: NEXT WE HAVE COUNCILOR JONES AND COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR JONES, THANK YOU. TONIGHT WE HAVE A PROCLAMATION RECOGNIZING THE CHAMBER MUSIC AND THE FOLLOWING PEOPLE ARE HERE TO ACCEPT THE PROCLAMATION. RUTH, JOHN, MARK, AND JONATHAN. IF YOU WANT TO COME UP. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'M GOING TO START READING THE PROCLAMATION. AND I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR FROM YOU. WHEREAS, JUNE 2022 MARKS THE 80th ANNIVERSARY OF THE ALBUQUERQUE JUNE MUSIC FESTIVAL, AND IT WAS FOUNDED IN 1942, BY A PROMINENT RESIDENT OF ALBUQUERQUE, AND MEMBER OF HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES. AND WHEREAS AFTER THE DEATH OF RUTH SIMS, THE JUNE MUSIC FESTIVAL WAS SPONSORED BY HER HUSBAND. LIKES WITH, A MEMBER OF THE HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES AND LAWYER BANKER BUSINESSMAN. AND WHEREAS COMPOSERS AND LONGTIME ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENT BECAME EXECUTIVES DIRECTOR OF THE JUNE MUSIC FESTIVAL IN 1953. AND -- JOSEPH FINEGOLD, UNDERTOOK FINANCIAL RESPONSIBILITY FOR THE JUNE MUSIC FESTIVAL IN 1961. WHEREAS IN 1966 THE JUNE MUSIC VESTFUL WAS INCORPORATED UNDER THE LAWS. AND THE MUSIC FESTIVAL BEGAN TO OFFER WINTER CONCERTS. AND WHEREAS THE JUNE MUSIC FESTIVAL CHANGED ITS NAME IN 1997 TO REFLECT THE SCOPE OF PROGRAMMING. AND TODAY IT'S A COMMUNITY-BASED ALL VOLUNTEER PRIEFRBT NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION PRESENTING YEAR ROUND SEASONS OF CONCERTS BY WORLD CLASS CLASS MUSICIANS. AND THE MUSIC FESTIVAL HAS MADE AVAILABLE TO AUDIENCES IN ALBUQUERQUE AND CENTRAL NEW MEXICO PERFORMANCES BY EMINENT MUSICIANS ALL OVER THE WORLD. ALBUQUERQUE RESIDENTS HAVE GROWN UP ATTENDING THE FESTIVAL, AND EXPERIENCING PRESENTATIONS OF THE SAME QUALITY AVAILABLE TO THE WORLD'S CAPITAL. AND IT'S BEING PRESENTED BY CHAMBER MUSIC. THE COUNCIL, IT GOVERNING BODY OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE PROCLAIMS THE MONTH OF JUNE AS CHAMBER MUSIC ALBUQUERQUE MONTH. IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS, THAT WOULD BE FABULOUS. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE'RE VERY GRATEFUL TO THE COUNCIL AND COUNCILOR JONES AND COUNCILOR BASSAN. AND WE THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR MAKING THIS PROCLAMATION. IT HAS BEEN AROUND FOR 80 YEARS UNDER THE CURRENT NAME. IT'S AN ORGANIZATION RAN BY VOLUNTEERS. ORDINARY, PRIVATE INDIVIDUALS. IT'S AN EXTRAORDINARY ACCOMPLISHMENT THAT THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE HAS BEEN ABLE TO SUPPORT THE ORGANIZATION FOR AS LONG AS PERIOD AS WE HAVE. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY MUSIC ORGANIZATION IN THE AMERICAN WEST HAS BEEN AROUND AS LONG AS THIS ONE HAS. IT'S A TRIBUTE TO THE PEOPLE OF CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE THAT THEY HAVE KEPT IT GOING ALL THIS TIME. I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE BOARD OF CHAMBER USIC ALBUQUERQUE. WE HAVE NO PROFESSIONAL STAFF. WE'RE RAN BY REGULAR HUMAN BEINGS. TWO OF WHOM I'VE GOT TO MY LEFT. MARK CLEVELAND, HE'S A MEMBER OF THE BOARD. HE'S AN EMPLOYEE OF PMN. HE VOLUNTEERS HIS TIME WITH THE BLESSING OF PNM TO WORK ON OUR BOARD AND SUPPORT WHAT WE DO. AND TO THE LEFT, WE HAVE RUTH, SHE IS 90 YEARS OLD. SHE HAS BEEN AFFILIATED WITH CHAMBER MUSIC ALBUQUERQUE FOR 40 YEARS. SHE'S THE PRESIDENT OF CHAMBER MUSIC ALBUQUERQUE IN THE 1990s WHEN WE OFFICIALLY CHANGED OUR NAME FROM -- TO THIS DAY, SHAIZ SHE'S AN IMPORTANT SOURCE OF SUPPORT. AND HELPS MAKE SURE WE DON'T MAKE ANY MISTAKES KEEPING STUFF GOING. WE'RE THRILLED TO BE HERE AND RECEIVE THIS RECOGNITION. WE'RE DONE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND REALLY APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT. [ APPLAUSE ]. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>COUN. BENTON: NEXT. WE'LL HAVE A PRESENTATION REGARDING THE CAMINO REAL HISTORIC TRAIL THE DEVELOPMENT CONCEPT PLAN. TO PRESENT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE RICHARD MEADOWS FROM BERNALILLO COUNTY. AND AARON AND CHRISTINA FROM MRWN LANDSCAPE. >> GOOD EVENING, MR. PRESIDENT. COUNCILORS, WE DID HAVE A POWERPOINT. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S THERE. >>COUN. BENTON: WE SEE IT ON THE UPPER SCREEN. LET'S GET IT ON TO THE TV. >> RIGHT. THANK YOU FOR HAVING US HERE TONIGHT. THE COUNTY PARTNERING WITH CITY PARKS AND REC AND THE NATIONAL PARKS SERVICE AND THE LAST COUPLE YEARS WE'VE PREPARED DEVELOPMENT CONCEPT PLANS FOR ELCAMINO REAL. WE'RE ASKING TONIGHT AS A RESOLUTION IN YOUR PACKET, WE'RE ASKING THAT THE RESOLUTION IS TO ADOPT THE PLAN AND RECOGNIZE THE WORK AND THE PLANS. WITH ME TONIGHT, I HAVE AARON WITH MRWM. HE'S GOING TO GIVE A SUMMARY OF WHAT'S IN THE PLAN. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. I'M GOING TO READ FROM THIS. THIS IS A TWO-YEAR PROJECT. 400-PAGE DOCUMENT. I'M GOING TO GIVE YOU A THOROUGH SUMMARY OF IT. I'M GOING TO READ FROM THE SCRIPT AND GET THROUGH THIS QUICKLY. OUR TEAM RECENTLY PUBLISHED THIS DRAFT DEVELOPMENT CONCEPT PLAN. WE'RE HERE TO GIVE YOU A BRIEF AND HIGH LEVEL OVER VIEW OF THE PROJECT. AS A PUBLIC REVIEW PERIOD COMES TO END WE PREPARE TO PUBLISH THE FINAL DOCUMENT. THE DEVELOPMENT CONCEPT PLAN PROVIDES PRESERVATION OF THE TRAIL. IT'S LOCATED WITHIN BERNALILLO COUNTY, CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE, AND VILLAGE OF LOS RANCHOS. I'LL ABBREVIATE THE TRAIL. THE PLAN IDENTIFIES ACTIONS, DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS, INFRASTRUCTURE IMPROVEMENTS, NEEDED TO CREATE A PATH TO FOLLOW. THE GOAL IS TO CREATE A PATH FOR PEOPLE. PROJECTS IDENTIFIED WITHIN THE PLAN ARE INTENDED TO CONTRIBUTE TOURISM, ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND PAYING SPECIAL ATTENTION TO THE EQUITABLE DEVELOPMENT. PLANNING GUIDELINES AND RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE TRACEMENT TRAIL LISTS SPECIFIC AMENITIES AND GUIDELINES. IT MAKES THIS TRAIL VISIBLE AND RELEVANT FOR VISITORS. THE PROJECT TEAM ENGAGED THE PUBLIC, IN A VARIETY OF FORMATS. AND USED TO COMPLY WITH COVID-19 RECOMMENDATIONS IN PLACE AT THE TIME. YOU CAN SEE A SUMMARY OF THOSE EFFORTS ON THE SCREEN AND OTHER JURISDICTIONAL PARTNERS WE MET. FOR PLANNING PURPOSES IT WAS BROKEN INTO THREE SECTIONS. NORTH VALLEY, CENTRAL AND SOUTH VALLEY. ANOTHER DIVISION IS MADE BETWEEN EAST AND WEST ROUTE. WE SAFELY ACCOMMODATE USERS, CYCLERS, AND PEDESTRIANS. IT COVERS 22 MILES ON EITHER SIDE OF THE RIO GRANDE AND BERNALILLO COUNTY. THE ROUTES SHIFTED UP AND DOWN THE VALLEY WITH THE CHANGING PATH OF THE RIO GRANDE. THE TRAIL IS SHOWN ON THE DASH LINE ON THE GRAPHIC. THE PUBLIC OPINION WAS TO PRIORITIZE LOCATING THE RETRACEMENT TRAIL AS CLOSE TO THE NHT AS POSSIBLE. AND CONNECTIONS TO HISTORIC TRAIL SITES, PUBLIC SPACES AND QUALITY OF RECREATIONAL AND EDUCATIONAL VALUE WAS USED TO IDENTIFY THE PREFERRED LOCATION. THERE ARE SEVERAL PRIORITY PROJECTS IDENTIFIED IN THE PLAN. THEY'RE PRIORITIZED FOR A VARIETY OF REASONS INCLUDING THE LIST SHOWN ON THE SCREEN. NOTE THE NUMEROUS CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE PRIORITY PROJECTS IN BLUE. THEY INCLUDE INTERPRETATION AND AMENITIES AT OPEN SPACE, THE RAIL YARDS, AND RAIL TRAILS. NEW BRIDGE CONNECTING RAIL YARDS AND SOUTH BROADWAY, BIKE AND PEDESTRIAN IMPROVEMENTS ALONG THE TRAIN TRAIL. FUTURE TRAIL IMPROVERMENTS SUCH AS THE SAN JOSE DRAIN TRAIL. AND ROUTES ALONG THE CITY. WE'VE IDENTIFIED SIX POTENTIAL HISTORIC SITES WITHIN THE PROJECT LIMITS. THESE ARE HISTORIC VILLAGES THAT CONNECT AND OLD TOWN IS ONE OF THEM. THE ALBUQUERQUE MUSEUM HAS BEEN CERTIFIED. THIS IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE THESE SITES ARE MORE LIKELY TO RECEIVE MORE FUNDING WITH THE PARTNERSHIP. NEXT SLIDE. A VARIETY OF TRAIL AMENITIES ARE PROPOSED TO PROVIDE FEATURES THAT ATTRACT USERS AND EDUCATE THEM TO STAY ON THE TRAIL AND REFLECT CULTURE AND COMMUNITIES. THEY VARY FROM SIMPLE REST STOPS, TO LINEAR PARKS AND APPLAUSE -- PLAZAS. THE RETRACEMENT TRAIL GOES THROUGH A WIDE RANGE OF LANDSCAPES. FROM URBAN AREAS, TO RURAL AREAS IN THE VALLEY. THEY TRAVEL THROUGH BUSY ARTERIAL STREETS. RETRACEMENT TRAIL UTILIZED BIKE LANES, SIDEWALKS, AND MULTIUSE TRAILS. WHEN COMPLETE, IT WILL BE THE ONLY CONTINUOUS NORTH-SOUTH TRAIL FROM ONE END OF THE COUNTEDY TO THE OTHER. THERE ARE OTHER TRAIL AND FACILITIES THAT WILL ENHANCE IT WITHIN THE CITY. THE PLAN IDENTIFIED EXISTING AND POTENTIAL LATERALS THAT WILL CONNECT. NHT HAS A UNIQUE LOGO AND STANDARD IN USE. THESE STANDARDS ENSURE EACH TRAIL SEGMENT IS PART OF A LARGER TRAIL THAT RUNS THROUGH THE ENTIRE STATE OF NEW MEXICO. ADDITION TO THE UNIQUE IDENTITY OF RAIL BRANDING WE CREATED AS PART OF THIS PLAN -- (INAUDIBLE) ]. THE PLAN DOCUMENT INCLUDES PROJECT COST SUMMARIZED BY PROJECT SEGMENTS , PRIORITY, PROJECT PARTNER. THE COST SHOWN IN THE SUMMARY TABLE SHOWS BIKE AMENITIES. THE 100% DRAFT DEVELOPMENT PLAN AVAILABLE ON THE PROJECT WEBSITE FOR VIEWING AND COMMENT FOR THE LAST FEW MONTHS. THAT PROJECT WEBSITE IS -- IT WAS PRESENTED TO THE VILLAGE OF LOS RANCHOS. ON MAY 24th WAS APPROVED BY THE BERNALILLO COUNTY. ANY QUESTIONS? THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. AND AS HE MENTIONED, THIS PLAN IS YEARS IN THE MAKING. AND IT WILL REQUIRE THE APPROVAL OF THE COUNCIL. IT'S A NICE PARTNERSHIP WITH THE VILLAGE OF LOS RANCHOS AND THE COUNTY AND A LOT OF GREAT PLANNING. OF COURSE, SETTLEMENT OF THIS VALLEY GONE ON LONG BEFORE THE CAMINO REAL. IT WAS A MAJOR INFLUENCE ON THE VALLEY AND COMMUNITY AS WE KNOW IT TODAY. I OPEN UP FOR QUESTIONS FOR THE DESIGN TEAM. IT LOOKS LIKE YOU COVERED WELL. THANKS FOR THE PRESENTATION. ALL RIGHT, WE'LL MOVE TO SKRENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. WE DO HAVE A NUMBER OF PEOPLE SIGNED UP TONIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO LIMIT OUR PUBLIC COMMENT TO ONE AND A HALF MINUTES TONIGHT BECAUSE OF THE QUANTITY OF PEOPLE THAT SIGNED UP ON VARIOUS SUBJECTS AND ALSO FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. HERE ARE THE GROUND RULES. EACH PARTICIPANT HAS ONE AND HALF MINUTES TO PRESENT. COMMENTS ARE TO BE ADDRESSED TO THE COUNCIL AND THROUGH THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT FOR RECOGNITION. ANY DISRUPTIVE CONDUCT WILL RESULT IN REMOVAL FROM THE MEETING. FOR THOSE COMMENTING IN THE CHAMBERS, AGAIN, WITH THE ONE AND A HALF MINUTE, THE LIGHT ON THE PODIUM WILL BE GREEN FOR THE FIRST MINUTE AND THE LIGHT WILL TURN YELLOW INDICATING YOU HAVE 30 SECONDS TO WRAP UP YOUR COMMENTS. AFTER WHICH THERE WILL BE A RED LIGHT TO INDICATE YOUR TIME IS UP. PLEASE CALL THE NAME OF THE FIRST SPEAKER. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. FIRST SPEAKER IS DESTINY. FOLLOWED BY MICA. >> HI, I'M DESTINY, I'M A RESIDENT OF THE NORTHEAST HEIGHTS. I THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING PLANNED PARENTHOOD. I'M SORRY -- I HAVEN'T DONE THIS BEFORE. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? I'M A RESIDENT OF THE NORTH EAST HEIGHTS. I'M HERE TO THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING PLANNED PARENTHOOD IN NEW MEXICO. WE TAKE CARE OF OUR FAMILIES AND OUR NEIGHBORS REGARDLESS OF INSUPREME COURT DECISION. ABORTION WILL STAY SAFE AND LEGAL IN OUR STATE. >> MICA, FOLLOWED BY AUGUSTINE. >> HELLO, I'M MICA, I AND I WANTED TO SAY THANK YOU FOR SUPPORTING PLANNED PARENTHOOD. IT'S DANGEROUS FOR THE U.S. SUPREME COURT TO PICK AND CHOOSE WHEN PATIENTS ARE ALLOWED ACCESS TO HEALTH CARE. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING FUNDING FOR PLANNED PARENTHOOD. >> AUGUSTINE, FOLLOWED BY LORI. >> I'M AUGUSTINE, I WOULD LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR ALLOCATING FUNDING TO PLANNED PARENTHOOD. NEW MEXICAN FAMILIES HAVE ALLOWED SAFE NEW MEXICAN HEALTH CARE IN OUR STATE INCLUDING ACCESS TO SAFE ABORTION. THANK YOU. >> LORI, FOLLOWED BY DON. >> DON, FOLLOWED BY MS. WARD. >> OUR CLOSE RELATIVES, THE NOBLE APE OF AFRICA, LIVE, MAKE, LOVE, NOT WAR. NEVER IN THE WILD, NEVER IN THE ZOO HAS ONE A NOBLE BEEN SEEING KILLING ANOTHER NOBLE. IMAGINE IF THAT COULD BE SAID OF US HUMAN BEINGS. THEY SETTLED CONFLICTS WITH SEX. MALE AND FEMALE, FEMALE AND FEMALE, MALE AND MALE. GIVING AND RECEIVING PLEASURE INSTEAD OF PAIN, BRUISES, VIOLENCE MURDER. WHY DO MILLIONS OF MEN SUFFER SHAME AND GUILT ABOUT SEXUAL ATTRACTION TO MEN? WHY DO I HAVE NO SHAME, NO GUILT, ABOUT PASSIONATE SEX WITH A HEALTHY SINGLE MAN WHO IS ATTRACTED TO ME AND I ATTRACTED TO HIM. WHY ARE MILLIONS INSANELY ADDICTED TO VIOLENT MOVIES, VIOLENT VIDEO GAMES, VIOLENT SPORTS BOXING FOOTBALL GUNS AND WAR? WHY? IT'S INSANE. MY MOTHER TAUGHT ME TO SPEAK TRUTH, TO STAND UP FOR WHAT I BELIEVE. THANK YOU. >> MS. WARD, FOLLOWED BY CURTIS. >> I'M GOING TO START WITH A LITTLE SHOW AND TELL TONIGHT. I'M WEARING A SHIRT FROM MY FIRST CLINICAL ROTATION AND HAVE A MUG FROM MY LAST CLINICAL ROTATION IN MEDICAL SCHOOL. BOTH WERE WITH HEALTH CARE FOR THE HOMELESS. PEOPLE HAVE BEEN IN TENUOUS HOUSING SITUATIONS IN ALBUQUERQUE. WHEN COMMUNITY MEMBERS SHARE THEIR CONCERNS, DON'T AUTOMATICALLY ASSUME IT COMES FROM FEAR, IT MAY COME FROM EXPERIENCE AND KNOWLEDGE. ADDITIONALLY, DON'T USE IGNORANCE TO FOMENT FEAR FOR PERCEIVED POLITICAL GAIN. THE MAJORITY RESPONDENTS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION IS TO OPPOSE LIVING LOTS AND SAFE OPEN SPACES ANYWHERE IN THE CITY. THE SIGNIFICANT MIN ORT WHO SUPPORT THE CONCEPTS DO SO ONLY IF ADEQUATE PROTECTIONS ARE IN PLACE. ONE OF THE PRIMARY PROTECTIONS IS NO PERMISSIVE USE IN ANY ZONING DISTRICT. THE PUBLIC HEARING SHOULD BE REQUIRED FOR EACH CONSIDERED SITE. ANOTHER PRIMARY PROTECTION IS A ONE CITY BLOCK OR EQUIVALENT BUFFER AROUND EACH PROPOSED SITE TO MITIGATE SPILL OVER HARMS TO NEIGHBORHOODS. OUR MEMBERS WANT THE WELL THOUGHT OUT PLANS PRIOR TO ANY IMPLEMENTATION, IF IT SHOULD PASS. THANK YOU. >> CURTIS, FOLLOWED BY CLAUDIA. >> I UNDERSTAND THAT THE COUNCILWOMAN IS IN THE PROCESS OF A BILL, PREVIOUSLY DISCUSSED BY THE CITY COUNCIL. IF SUCCESSFUL HER LEGISLATION WOULD REDIRECT $150,000 IN APPROPRIATION INTENDED FOR PLANNED PARENTHOOD TO HELP FUND YOUTH AND WOMEN'S HOMELESS SHELTERS IN ALBUQUERQUE. I'LL BE BRIEF KNOWING THAT EVERYBODY'S TIME IS VALUABLE. MY REASON FOR SPEAKING TO SUPPORT HER BILL IS PERSONAL. I SERVE AND PLAN PARENTHOODS BOARD IN ALBUQUERQUE IN THE MID 19D -- 1980s. I WAS IN FAVOR OF THE SERVICES, PUT NOT ABORTION. MY FELLOW BOARD MEMBERS, LATE CAROL TUCKER, AND OTHER GOOD PEOPLE, THEY WERE NEVER OKAY. IN 1992, I BECAME A COMMITTED CHRISTIAN AND CAME TO REALIZE THAT ABORTION SERVICES WERE THE PRINCIPLE MISSION OF PLANNED PARENTHOOD EVERYWHERE. THIS WENT GENT MY FAITH AND NATURAL LAW GIVEN TO US BY LAW AND APOWSED BY THE CONSTITUTION. I AGAINST TAXPAYER FUNDING PLANNED PARENTHOOD. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE THE $250,000 BUDGET USED FOR WOMEN'S SHELTERS. >> CLAUDIA, FOLLOWED BY MIKELA. >> MIKELA FOLLOWED BY NICK. >> MY NAME IS MIKELA, I'M HERE TO SUPPORT COUNCILOR GROUT'S PROPOSAL TO REDIRECT $250,000 OF MONEY FOR PLANNED PARENTHEAD TO OUR HOMELESS ISSUE. ALBUQUERQUE IS SUFFERING FROM A HOMELESS PANDEMIC. WHILE I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE TO COMPASSIONATE ABOUT THE APPROACH, THIS IS THE PERFECT START TO DO THAT. WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO GET OUR HOMELESS POPULATION REHAB ILITATED AND BACK INTO SOCIETY. THEY NEED TO BE PRODUCTIVE MEMBERS OF SOCIETY. HAVE RESOURCES TO BE ABLE TO DO TAT. I BELIEVE THAT THE MONEY SPENT FOR $250,000 FOR THE HOMELESS WOULD BE MUCH BETTER USE OF OUR FUNDS. I ALSO DON'T BELIEVE THAT TAXPAYER MONEY SHOULD BE GOING TO FUND ABORTION. THANK YOU. >> NICK, FOLLOWED BY JOSHUA. >> HELLO, I'M COMING BACK TO COUNCIL TO SHOW YOU THE AMOUNT OF PRESS CONSFRENSS WE'VE BEEN SENT FROM THE MAYORS OFFICE. APD HAS A PRESS CONFERENCE TOUTING HOMICIDE VICTIMS BEING CARED FOR. WE WERE NOT ALLOWED TO ATTEND. WE OUGHT TO ASK WHY GILBERT STILL HAS A JOB. HE ATTACKED A HOMICIDE VICTIM'S FAMILY MEMBER. WE COVERED THE STORY. HE VIOLATED NUMEROUS APD POLICIES, AND DELETED PUBLIC RECORDS WHICH IS A CRIMINAL ACT. ANY OTHER CIVILIAN OR OFFICER ADD APD WOULD HAVE BEEN FIRED. IN AN EMAIL, HE SAID ABQ RAW IS NOT A NEWS OUTLET. THE BOSQUE FIRE HAPPENED, THERE WAS NO UPDATED TO INFORM PEOPLE WHAT WAS GOING ON. LAST MEETING MR. REL SAID ALL PRESS MEETING ARE ON THE WEBSITE. THAT'S A LIE. IT'S A DANGEROUS GAME FOR THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH AND THE PIO TO PLAY MEDIA CZARS. THIS CAVALIER ATTITUDE BY THE ADMINISTRATION IS A DANGEROUS GAME WITH CIVIL RIGHTS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> JOSHUA -- >>COUN. SANCHEZ: CAN I GET A QUESTION FOR THE ADMINISTRATION IN REFERENCE TO THAT? MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'LL HEAR FROM THE THE ADMINISTRATION. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: I WAS CURIOUS AS TO WHY THEY'RE EXCLUDED FROM MEDIA AND JUST A QUICK EXPLANATION TO THEM AND ALSO THE OTHER CITY COUNCILLORS AS TO WHY THEY DON'T GET ANY OF THE MEDIA RELEASES. >> MR. PRESIDENT, AND COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, FIRST AND FOREMOST. IT IS MY UNDERSTANDING THAT ALL THE PRESS RELEASES ARE PUBLISHED. IF THEY'RE NOT GETTING THE PRESS RELEASES WE WILL MAKE SURE WE GET THOSE TO THEM. >> THERE'S AN EMAIL. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S NOT A GIVE-AND-TAKE. >> I'VE BEEN FIGHTING FOR MY CIVIL RIGHT FOR TWO YEARS. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'RE NOT ADDRESSING YOU. WE'RE ADDRESSING THE ADMINISTRATION. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, I WILL VISIT WITH OUR COMMUNICATION FOLKS TO SEE WHAT THE STRUCTURE IS AS IT RELATES TO GETTING THE PRESS RELEASES TO DIFFERENT OUTLETS. I AS I SAID BEFORE, THOSE RELEASEERIZE PUBLISHED. THERE'S A CONVERSATION WE HAD AS IT RELATES TO THE ROLE AND THE WORK THAT THIS OUTLET PARTICULARLY WANTS FROM THE CITY AND I'LL HAVE TO GET WITH OUR PRESS FOLKS TO GET YOUR MORE DETAILS. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: MR. PRESIDENT, I WAS LOOKING FOR TRANSPARENCY. CITY COUNCIL, AS I UNDERSTAND IT, IS ON THAT PRESS RELEASE AND THEY GET OURS, THEY DO NOT GET THE ADMINISTRATION'S. I'M HOPING FOR MORE TRANSPARENCY FROM THE ADMINISTRATION. THANK YOU. >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. LAYMAN, I WANT TO ASK REALLY QUICK, DON'T GO AWAY. I KNOW A LITTLE ABOUT THIS. I OWN A COUPLE NEWSPAPERS, I WORK AS AN ADVOCATE AND PUBLISHER. HAVE YOU OR ANY YOURSELF ORGANIZATION BEEN ACCEPTED IN ANYBODY MEMBERSHIP IN PROFESSIONAL MEDIA BOUND BY ETHICS. >> THERE'S THE NPPA. THEY REPRESENTED US ON A COUPLE ISSUES. >>COUN. DAVIS: ARE YOU A MEMBER OF PROFESSIONALLY ACKNOWLEDGED ASSOCIATIONS? HAVE YOU PRESENTED IT TO THE CITY? >> WE THINK MEMBERSHIPS ARE CRITICAL FOR BEING ADVOCATES WHEN WE HAVE TO FIGHT FOR THE RIGHTS. >>COUN. DAVIS: IF YOU COULD HELP US. I KNOW WE ASKED ABOUT THIS LAST TIME. WE'VE STILL BEEN ASKING FOR ANSWERS. WOULD YOU PLEASE SHARE THE ADMINISTRATION'S POLICY ON CREDENTIALS FOR MEDIA. WE HAD ONE. AND IT INCLUDED BEING PART OF OREGONS TO ENSURE THE ORGANIZATION IS FOLLOWING THE ETHICS. IT'S A GOOD CHANCE TO LOOK AT THAT AGAIN. I THINK IF THEY QUALIFY, WE HAVE A POLICY, IF THEY DON'T WE'LL MOVE IT. >> I'D BE HAPPY TO LOOK AT THAT. >> JOSHUA, FOLLOWED BY MICHAEL. >> MICHAEL, FOLLOWED BY GRACE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I'M MICHAEL. SOME BACKGROUND, THERE ARE APPROXIMATELY 250 RECOGNIZED AND UNRECOGNIZED NEIGHBORHOODS IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. THEY WORK TOGETHER AND FORM A COALITION WITH THE EXCEPTION OF ONE DISTRICT. THESE COALITIONS FORMED A COUNCIL. I SERVE AS PRESIDENT OF THE COALITION. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME SPEAK. NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS ARE PRO-COMMUNITY. THEY SUPPORT ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. THEY SUPPORT JOB CREATION AND HAVING A SAFE AND HEALTHY COMMUNITY FOR BOTH RECOGNIZED AND UNRECOGNIZED NEIGHBORHOODS. TONIGHT, YOU'LL MEET MEMBERS OF THE COALITION WHO WORKED HOUR AFTER HOUR TO PROVIDE YOU WITH INFORMATION WE HOPE WILL BE HELPFUL AS YOU FORMULATE YOUR POLICY AND AS YOU MAKE DECISIONS. THE TIME THEY SPEND WORKING FOR YOU IS NOT FREE TIME. IT HAS A REAL VALUE AND IT HAS MY DEEP APPRECIATION FOR YOUR WORK. YOU'LL HEAR THEM SAY OFTEN THEY WORK THE ACTIVE CONSTRUCTIVE PARTICIPANTS IN CITY GOVERNMENT. HERE'S MY REQUEST, B13, IT IS HOPE THAT WILL BE POSTPONED TONIGHT AND DON'T NEED TO TAKE ANY ACTION ON B13. THANK YOU. >> GRACE, FOLLOWED BY PEGGY. >> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL. I LIVE ON THE WEST SIDE OF ALBUQUERQUE DISTRICT ONE. AS I UNDERSTAND MANY CITY COUNCILS HAVE VOTED TO ALLOCATE $250,000 TO PLANNED PARENTHOOD. HOWEVER, THE VAST MAJORITY OF AMERICANS AND NEW MEXICANS, INCLUDING PRO-CHOICE INDIVIDUALS OPPOSE FORCED TAXPAYER FUNDING OF ABORTIONS. PLANNED PARENTHOOD PERFORMS ABORTIONS UP TO FIVE MONTHS AND BRINGS IN $4.7 MILLION IN ANNUAL REVENUE. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHY DO THEY NEED ADDITIONAL TAXPAYERER DOLLARS? CONSIDERING THE SIGNIFICANCE OF HOMELESS PEOPLE THAT HAS BEEN IN MY DISTRICT, DISTRICT ONE, ALONG WITH SURROUNDING ALBUQUERQUE AREA, IT WOULD MAKE SENSE TO ALLOCATE THESE FUNDS INSTEAD TO A HOMELESS SHELTER FOR YOUTH AND FOR WOMEN THAT COUNCILOR GROUT HAS PROPOSED. I'LL LEAVE YOU WITH THIS SCRIPTURE FROM GERMIA. THUS SAY THE LORD EXECUTE RIGHTEOUSNESS. AND DO NO WRONG. DO NO VIOLENCE TO THE STRANGER, FATHERLESS OR WIDOW. NEITHER SHED INNOCENT BLOOD IN ITS PLACE. THANK YOU. >> PEGGY, FOLLOWED BY FRANCHES CO. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILORS. I'M HERE TO -- I BELIEVE THE PROCESS LED TO THE ADOPTION WAS COMPROMISED. I PUT FORWARD THESE POINTS FOR THE RECORD. COUNCIL USED A FLAWED AND SUSPECT NEIGHBORHOOD ENGAGEMENT PROCESS TO SPOERALITY -- THE NEW NEIGHBORHOOD. IT HAS SUBSTANTIAL INACCURACIES. AND THE CONCLUSIONS DRAWN FROM IT ARE FALSE. COUNCIL USED ENOUGH REPORTS TO REMOVE THE CAPACITY TO HAVE OVERLAPPING NEIGHBORHOODS, BUT THE REPORTS DO NOT SUPPORT THIS. NO ONE WAS CALLING FOR THIS. COUNCIL STAFF TOOK LIBERTIES WITHOUT DUE PROCESS AND IN LIKELY VIOLATIONS OF THE OPEN MEETINGS ACT. COUNCIL REFUSED TO DISCUSS A TIERED SYSTEM OF RECOGNITION THAT WOULD HELP GROW AND SUPPORT NEIGHBORHOODS. IN FACT, COUNCIL REFUSED TO DISCUSS THE NEIGHBORHOOD REVISIONS WITH THE PUBLIC. COUNCIL REFUSED TO CONSIDER THE PUBLIC'S ASERGZ AND THE RATIONALE IS NOT WORKING. COUNCIL REFUSED TO ADD VERBIAGE TO ADDRESS THE CONCERNS OF NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION THAT THEY'RE NOT CONSULTED. THE PUBLIC PROVIDED EXAMPLES OF SYSTEMS THAT COULD EASILY KNEEING INCLUDED THAT WOULD HELP YOU TO REPRESENT YOUR CON STITUENIES YOU. BUT YOU REFUSED TO ADOPT IT. THE ONLY CONCLUSION IS YOU DON'T WANT TO REPRESENT YOUR CONSTITUENTS. >>COUN. BENTON: YOUR TIME IS UP. >> FRANCHESCO. >> THE RECENT DOWNTOWN STORE ACTIVATION, MADE HALF A MILLION DOLLARS FOR BUSINESSES DOWNTOWN. I PROPOSE A SIMILAR APPROACH WITH ROUTE 66 RESCUE PLAN. I'M IN STRONG SUPPORT OF RESCUING THE CENTRAL CORRIDOR THAT HAD SMALL BUSINESSES DESTROYED BY THE ART PROJECT. ALBUQUERQUE IS GEARING UP TO CELEBRATE THE 100th ANNIVERSARY OF ROUTE 66 IN THREE YEARS. WE'LL ENCOURAGE LOCALES AND VISITORS TO GET THEIR KICKS ON ROUTE 66 FOR A ONCE IN A LIFETIME BOOM TO OUR ECONOMY. DO WE WANT THEM TO GO BACK HOME TELLING STORIES OF HOW WE DESTROYED THE STRETCH OF HISTORIC ROUTE 66 BY OUR OWN HANDS? THE TIME IS NOW TO CAPTURE LIGHTNING IN A BOTTLE. THANK YOU. >> PHILLIP. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT FOR HEARING ME. I'M HERE TO SUPPORT COUNCILOR GROUT'S PROPOSAL. REDIRECTING THE $250,000 FUNDING AWAY FROM PLANNED PARENTHOOD. I'M SURE YOU HAVE HEARD ALL OF THE ARGUMENTS ON WHY IT IS INAPPROPRIATE TO FUND THE PRIVATE FOR-PROFIT ABORTION CENTER. I AGREE WITH ALL OF THOSE OBJECTIONS. IF YOU CHOOSE NOT TO CHANGE YOUR MIND, I WOULD REQUEST THAT YOU EQUITABLY FUND ALBUQUERQUE CARE NET IN THE SAME AMOUNT. SO WOMEN EXPERIENCING AN UNPLANNED GIFT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO CHOOSE THE HEALTH CARE THAT WOULD SUPPORT THE MOTHER AND CHILD'S WELFARE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> DON, FOLLOWED BY ROCHELLE. >> THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M JOHN, I'M A TAXPAYER AND AN OWNER HERE IN ALBUQUERQUE. I'M HERE TO SUPPORT COUNCILOR GROUT AND HER EFFORT TO REDIRECT THESE FUNDS OF $250,000 WHICH IS NO SMALL AMOUNT TO ME. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU. I CAN SEE THAT IT SEEMS TO BE THAT THERE'S -- I LIKE WOMEN. I LIKE TO SEE WOMEN THRIVE. I LIKE BABY WOMEN TOO. I GREW UP AS A CHILD. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT YOU. BUT MY MOM HAD ME AND SIX OTHER SIBLINGS. I JUST WANT TO SUPPORT COUNCILOR GROUT AND DAN LEWIS AND LOUIS CHAVEZ. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO THINK ABOUT WHAT YOU'RE DOING WITH THIS MUB MONEY. IT CAN CERTAINLY HELP. I'M NOT ASKING YOU MAKE IT ILLEGAL. I UNDERSTAND THAT'S SOMETHING THAT I MIGHT LIKE AND OTHERS MIGHT LIKE, BUT I'M ASKING THAT I DON'T HAVE TO PAY TAXPAYER MONEY THAT I'M PAYING FOR SOMETHING YOU THINK IS A CONVENIENCE TO WOMEN AND SOMETHING YOU FEEL THAT IS ALSO RESPECTING WOMEN. I DON'T SEE HOW THAT RESPECTS WOMEN AT ALL. I KNOW THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT AGREE WITH ME. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND COUNCILOR GROUT'S PROPOSAL. THANK YOU. >> ROCHELLE, FOLLOWED BY CHARLES. >> I'M HERE REPRESENTING THE PEOPLE OF ALBUQUERQUE WHO HAVE SUFFERED SO MUCH IN THE PAST FEW YEARS WITH COVID AND EMPLOYMENT ISSUES, OUR CHILDREN LOSING SCHOOL TIME. ONE OF THE THINGS WE CAN STILL COUNT ON WAS PROPERTY VALUES POTENTIALLY INCREASING IN VALUE. HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT YOU, WHO WE VOTED ON WITH SUCH HIGH EXPECTATIONS, WOULD CONSIDER BRINGING TENT ENCAMPMENTS TO OUR AREAS WHICH WOULD DEFINITELY BRING MORE CRIME AND LOWER VALUES TO OUR PROPERTY. IN MANY CASES, OUR REAL ESTATE VALUE IS ALL WE HAVE FROM ALL THE YEARS OF HARD WORK. EVERY AREA WOULD HAVE CRIME TO THE SURROUNDING AREAS. NOW, INSTEAD OF PROPERLY MANAGING THE SITUATION, HOW COULD BRINGING MORE OF THESE HELP WITH OUR CITY? EL PASO AS AN EXAMPLE HAPPENS TO BORDER MEXICO. IT'S NEXT TO MEXICO AND CLOSE TO NEW MEXICO. YET, THEY ARE ONE OF THE TOP SAFEST CITY'S IN THE COUNTRY, IF YOU LOOK IT UP. I WAS SURPRISED TO FIND THEY ARE. THEIR CITIZENS HAVE BETTER SCHOOLS, LESS CAR THEFT, LESS MURDERS, AND INCREASING HOME VALUE. HOW IS IT POSSIBLE THAT THEY ARE CAPABLE AND MOTIVATED TO CARE FOR THEIR CITIZENS IN THIS MANNER AND WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DO ANYTHING BUT TO SEE OUR PROPERTY VALUES GOING DOWN. I THINK EVERYBODY SHOULD HAVE ACCESS FOR EVERYTHING GOOD FOR THEM. BUT NOT IN OUR BACKYARDS. WE NEED TO GIVE THEM THE HELP BUT NOT BRING TO OUR YARD. PLEASE DON'T VOTE FOR THIS. >> ARNOLD, FOLLOWED BY GREG. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCIL MEMBERS, I'M CHUCK, I'VE BEEN A MEMBER IN THE COMMUNITY FOR 40 YEARS MANAGING PROPERTY. WE HAVE ABOUT 1800 UNITS. OF THAT, WE HAVE 450 VOUCHERS THAT WE HELP PEOPLE FIND HOMES. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO ASK YOU TO RECONSIDER PASSING IT. THAT'S A VERY HARD BILL TO LOOK AT AND SAY THAT WE'RE GOING TO ENFORCE, YOU MUST TAKE VOUCHERS. WE TALK ABOUT SECTION EIGHT VOUCHERS AND WE LOOK AT SECTION EIGHT AND FROM THE BERNALILLO COUNTY MOST PEOPLE AREN'T AWARE THAT YOU HAVE THREE DIFFERENT TYPES OF -- YOU HAVE PEOPLE THAT COME FROM DIFFERENT POSITIONS THAT HAVE BEEN CHRONICALLY ILL. SOME NEED FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE, AND SOME CAN BE HELPED READILY. I WORKED WITH SEVERAL COUNCILORS HERE ON SOME OF THE PROJECTS WE'VE BEEN TRYING TO DO IN THE SOUTHEAST. FORCING PEOPLE, FORCING SMALL OWNERS, AND MOST OF THE OWNERS WE REPRESENT OVER 150 OWNERS, CANNOT AFFORD TO BE ABLE TO WAIT THREE OR FOUR MONTHS TO GET PAYMENTS FROM THE COUNTY. WE RITH NOW, TODAY, WHEN WE LOOK AT THE BOOKS, HAVE $70,000 OWED TO US BY THE CITY AND COUNTY. THAT'S A LARGE CHUNK OF MONEY. I URGE YOU TO VOTE AND RECONSIDER THIS VOTE ON THIS. THANK YOU. >> GREG, FOLLOWED BY PAUL. >> GOOD EVENING, I'M PAUL. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TONIGHT. I'M HERE TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF SMART PIECE OF LEGISLATION WHICH IS O-22-16 PROHIBITING DISCRIMINATION OF HOUSING BASED ON SOURCE OF INCOME. I THANK COUNCILOR BASSAN AND COUNCILOR DAVIS. WE'RE IN THE MIDST OF A HOUSING CRISIS IN ALBUQUERQUE. THE BEAUTY OF THIS IS IT REFLECTS ONE OF CORE TENANTS OF GOOD GOVERNMENT WHICH IS TO STAND WITH AND ADVOCATE ON BEHALF OF THE OPPRESSED. VETERANS, DISABILITIES, LGBTQ PEOPLE, PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THE CRIMINAL SYSTEM NEED BARRIERS REMOVED. SAFE, HEALTHY HOUSING LEADS TO A COME FOR US ALL, WHEN PEOPLE HAVE A SAFE PLACE TO LIVE WE WILL SEE IMPACT ON PUBLIC SAFETY. I ASK TAT THE CITY COUNCIL CONSIDER THE DEFINITION OF MINIMUM INCOME REQUIREMENTS SO IT ONLY HAS THE PORTION OF RENT PAID BY THE INDIVIDUAL. WE ALL DO CARE ABOUT ENDING HOMELESSNESS IN THE COMMUNITY. THE WAY TO END HOMELESSNESS IS SIMPLE, PROVIDE HOUSING. I URGE THE COUNCIL TO STAND WITH THE MOST VULNERABLE AND I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. THANK YOU. >> LEE, FOLLOWED BY PETER. >> PETER, FOLLOWED BY BARBARA. >> I'M GOING TO BE LETTING YOU KNOW, PEOPLE ON ZOOM ARE HAVING TROUBLE HEARING. I'M PETER, ON BEHALF OF ROCKLAND HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD HOMELESS SOLUTIONS COMMITTEE. ALL OF THE AMENDMENTS RELATED TO SHELTERING THE UNHOUSED, INCLUDING SPACES, AND PERMISSIVE USE THAT IS ROBBING OUR NEIGHBORHOOD OF INPUT. NOT TO MENTION ALLOWING THEM EVADING RESPONSIBILITIES OF ADDRESSING ADVERSE IMPACTS. INCLUDING PASSING -- EVEN WITH CONDITIONAL USE THERE'S ERRORS BY THE CITY INCLUDING LACK OF NOTIFICATION WHICH CONTINUES TO OCCUR TO THIS DAY. THE CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS GIVEN NEIGHBORHOODS SURROUNDING GATEWAY AN INVITATION TO COLLABORATE WITH DEVELOPMENT AND MEASURES HOW COMMUNITY AGREEMENT. DECIDING TO ELIMINATE THE NATURE OF THESE SITE IS SHORTSIGHTED. AND HAS LONG-TERM RAMIFICATIONS THE CITY CANNOT AFFORD. >> BARBARA, FOLLOWED BY TAD. >> TAD, FOLLOWED BY LINA. >> MY NAME IS TAD. HOW MANY KNOWS ABOUT PRICES GOING UP? I NOTICED LUMBER, HARDWARE, LAST YEAR, PRICES WENT SO HIGH. NOW, FOOD, GASOLINE, BIDEN BLAMING OIL COMPANIES. THEY COLLECTED GOVERNMENT TAXES. EVERY DOLLAR COMES FOR GOVERNMENT. INCREASED PRICES. FOOD IS NECESSARY AND GASOLINE. WELL, THEY MUST BUY IT AND TAX ON IT. THAT'S WHERE WE'RE AT. NOW WHO IS SUFFERING? ALL THESE BIG MONOPOLIES? ALL STATE-OWNED HOSPITAL, THREE DIFFERENT BUILDINGS GOING UP. WHERE DOES THIS MONEY COME FROM? MY TIME IS RUNNING OUT. >> LINA, FOLLOWED BY ROBERT ON ZOOM. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILORS, I'M A HOMEOWNER IN DISTRICT TWO. I'M HERE TO VOICE MY SUPPORT FOR THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES LEGISLATION. AMENDMENTS B23 AND 24 WHICH WOULD MAKE THESE NECESSARY SPACES ESSENTIALLY, USELESS AND UNAVAILABLE TO THE COMMUNITY THAT THEY ARE NECESSARY FOR. B24 REQUIRES IDENTIFICATION IN SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES, OBVIOUSLY, A MAJORITY OF THE UNHOUSED POPULATION DON'T HAVE IDENTIFICATION IN ORDER TO GET A STANDARD DRIVERS'S LICENSE YOU NEED ONE PROOF OF IDENTITY AND TWO PROOFS OF RESIDENCY. THESE ARE HARD TO GET IN THE FIRST PLACE. AND IT WOULD NEED FREQUENT NEED FOR REPLACEMENT AND MAKES AREAS UNACCESSIBLE. CRIMINAL HISTORY WHICH WOULD PREVENT ANYONE WITH A MISDEMEANOR OR FELONY CHARGE TO BE PERMITTED FROM STAYING IN THE OUTDOOR SPACES. I WANTED TO BRING ATTENTION TO THE FACT THAT THERE ARE AT LEAST 553 ORDINANCES IN THE CITY CODE THAT HAVE MISDEMEANOR PENALTIES VIOLATION. WITH THE STATE CODE THERE ARE 300 STATUTES WITH PENALTIES INCLUDING PETTY MISDEMEANORS AND 345 STATUTES WITH FELONY PENALTIES MAKING IT SO NO ONE WITH A CRIMINAL CONVICTION WOULD BE ABLE TO ACCESS THESE SPACES AND RENDER THEM USELESS AND INACCESSIBLE WHEN THEY'RE NECESSARY. THANK YOU. >> WE'LL MOVE TO SPEAKERS ON ZOOM. FIRST SPEAKER WILL BE PETER FOLLOWED BY BOB. >> I'M FATHER PETER, I SERVICE THE NORTHWEST SIDE. I'M ADDRESSING THE COUNCIL TO ASK THEM TO POSTPONE A VOTE TO REZONE MX ZONES AS BEING USED FOR HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS BECAUSE IN OUR AREA NOT ONLY AM I THE PASTOR OF THIS CHURCH, BUT I'M A BOARD ON A SMALL SCHOOL. AROUND THESE AREAS, I DON'T THINK IT'S WISE TO HAVE A BLANKET PERMISSION TO REZONE THE AREAS WITHOUT FIRST LOOKING INTO AND HAVING CRITERIA TO SAY WHERE AND WHAT PLACES WILL THEY BE PLACED. ESPECIALLY WITH OUR SCHOOL THERE, I'M CONCERNED ABOUT THAT FOR THE CHILDREN IN THE AREA AND I WOULD ASK THAT NOT BE VOTED ON TONIGHT. THAT WILL BE POSTPONED UNTIL FURRING FURTHER CRITERIA TO BE DETERMINED FOR THE HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> BOB, FOLLOWED BY LUCY. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> YES. >> THANK YOU, I'D LIKE TO VOICE MY SUPPORT WITH FATHER PETER. THOSE HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS WILL JUST FURTHER PLACE DRUG ADDICTION AND OVERDOSES. IT'S NOT GOOD FOR CIVILIZATION AT ALL. AND REGARDING SUPPORTING COUNCILOR GROUT IN THE FUNDING OF THE PLANNED PARENTHOOD MONEY, WE JUST CELEBRATED THE PROCLAMATION FOR BLACK SLAVES BEING FREED, HOW MANY BLACK BABIES WILL BE MURDERED BY PLANNED PARENTHOOD WITH THAT MONEY? BABY BLACK LIVES MATTER, HISPANIC LIVES, WHITE LIVES, ASIAN LIVES. PLEASE RECONSIDER THIS CULTURE OF DEATH BEING SPREAD OVER CITIZENS. WE DON'T WANT THAT. WE DON'T AGREE WITH THAT. IT'S NOT WISE AT ALL OR GOOD TO BE USING MONEY FOR DESTRUCTIVE PURPOSES THAT DESTROY CIVILIZATION. AND REGARDING THE HOMELESS, THAT MONEY WOULD BE USED TO HELP THEM GET JOBS. YOU SEE ABLE-BODIED MEN BEGGING WHEN THERE'S HELP WANTED SIGNS ALL OVER THE CITY. I KNOW THEY HAVE PROBLEMS BUT SOMETIMES TOUGH LOVE IS REAL COMPASSION. THOSE COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT ARE FURTHERING THE CULTURE OF DESTRUCTIVENESS AND ESPECIALLY THE ABORTION PROBLEM, PLEASE RETHINK THIS. NORMALLY, THE ARCHBISHOP WOULD BE PUBLICLY VERY VOCAL IN SHINING THE LIGHT OF TRUTH ON THIS HORRIBLE THING THAT'S MENACING OUR COUNTRY. THE LAY PEOPLE HAVE TO DO IT NOW. EVERY ONE OF US WILL BE JUDGED OBJECT JUDGMENT DAY. LOOK TO THAT. LOOK TO GOD TO SEE WHAT HE'S GOING TO DO AT THE END OF OUR LIVES. >> THANK YOU. >> ARE WE PROMOTING VIRTUE OR DESTRUCTION AND DEATH? >> THANK YOU. YOUR TIME IS UP. WE HAVE LUCY NEXT. >> I'M IN TOTAL AGREEMENT WITH WHAT MY HUSBAND SAID, OF COURSE. I WOULD LIKE TO ADD REGARDING YOUR PLAN TO CHANGE ZONING TO ACCOMMODATE HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS, IT'S A VERY BAD IDEA. THIS IS ONLY GOING TO PROMOTE CRIME, DISEASE, ILLEGAL DRUGS, HUMAN TRAFFICS, AND FURTHER DESTROY OUR CITY. NO MORE ENCAMPMENTS. STOP WASTING OUR MONEY. THINK OF A BETTER IDEA, INSTEAD OF LURING MORE PEOPLE HERE BY PROVIDING FOR ALL THEIR NEEDS WHEN MOST OF THESE PEOPLE CAN PROBABLY FEND FOR THEMSELVES. YOU'RE JUST ENABLING THESE PEOPLE ON OUR TAXPAYER MONEY. I AS A LIFELONG RESIDENT OF NEW MEXICO AND ALBUQUERQUE, CANNOT GO CAMPING IN THE LOCAL CAMPGROUNDS WITHOUT PAYING FOR A PERMIT AND CLEAN UP AFTER MYSELF WHILE THESE PEOPLE CAN CAMP ENDLESSLY DOWNTOWN OR WHEREVER ELSE IN ALBUQUERQUE AND GET FREE FOOD, FREE SERVICES AND A CITY CREW TO CLEAN UP AFTER THEM. THAT'S A SHAME THAT YOU'RE DOING THIS TO ALBUQUERQUE. DON'T DO THIS TO ALBUQUERQUE ANYMORE, DON'T CHANGE THE ZONING FOR THIS PURPOSE. LAST OF ALL, GIVING $250,000 TO PLANNED PARENTHOOD, THAT'S A CRIME OF THE HIGHEST ORDER. YOU'RE AN UP COMPLICE TO MURDER IF YOU DO THAT. WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT TO OUR YOUNGEST CITIZENS WHO CAN BECOME GREAT TAXPAYERS AND GOOD PEOPLE? THAT'S NOT GOING TO HELP OUR ECONOMY. I DIED DID READ YOU >> THANK YOU, YOUR TIME IS UP. >> THANK YOU. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS MARCY. >> JUST A SECOND. HELLO, CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> YES. >> THANK YOU. OKAY. I'M TALKING ABOUT THE $250,000 THAT IS GOING TO PLANNED PARENTHOOD. I ALSO HAVE A PAGE THAT I SENT OUT TO YOU GUYS THAT IS SHOWING HOW CURTIS BOYD AND ALL OF HIS EMPLOYEES ARE CONTRIBUTING TO PLANNED PARENTHOOD. I WANT TO BRING UP THE POINT I BELIEVE THIS IS MONEY LAUNDERING. BECAUSE THESE SAME PEOPLE THAT THE CITY COUNCIL AND THE CITY COUNCIL MEMBERS OF WHICH I'M VERY DISAPPOINTED IN A COUPLE OF YOU WHO TOUT YOURSELVES AS CONSERVATIVES THAT ARE SUPPORTING THIS. ABORTION IS NOT HEALTH CARE. IT IS TAKING A LIFE OF AN INNOCENT HUMAN BEING. I HAVE A FRIEND WHO IS ALSO SPECIAL NEEDS ADULT, AND HE'S LIKE WHY DON'T THEY PUT THIS MONEY TOWARD THE SPECIAL OLYMPICS WHICH HAS BEEN DEFUNDED. PLANNED PARENTHOOD AND THE ABORTION FACILITIES, THEY TARGET OUR SPECIAL NEEDS BABIES BECAUSE THEY'RE A BURDEN TO THEM. I WOULD ASK THAT EVERYONE WHO IS VOTING FOR THIS, IF -- INSTEAD OF VOTING FOR THAT, GIVE IT TO SPECIAL OLYMPICS. WE'RE TALKING $1.5 MILLION. 5,000-PLUS DOLLARS FROM CURTIS BOYD. I SENT THAT TO YOU IN YOUR EMAIL. PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT IT BEFORE YOU MAKE MORE DECISIONS. >> THANK YOU YOUR TIME IS UP. >> TO SEND MONEY TO PLANNED PARENTHOOD. THANK YOU. >> THAT WILL CONCLUDE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. WE'LL MOVE TO THE ADMINISTRATION QUESTION AND ANSWER PERIOD. COUNCILORS, ANY QUESTIONS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION? COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR ALBUQUERQUE FIRE AND RESCUE. IS THERE SOMEONE HERE? HI CHIEF. >> COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT, AND I'VE BEEN GOING BACK AND FORTH WITH YOUR DEPARTMENT, THERE'S A 911 CALL PLACED ON THE 31st OF MAY AT 2:22. IT WAS ROUTED TO AFR. AND THE CALLER WAS CONCERNED THAT SHE SAW SOMEONE IN THE STREET WHO LOOKED DISORIENTED WHO HAD A SIGN WHICH MADE HER THINK THIS PERSON WAS HOMELESS. HE WAS ILL, SLUMPED OVER HIS CANE. I THINK YOU HAD A CHANCE TO REVIEW THE TAPE. SHE WAS ASKED IF SHE WOULD INTERACT WITH THIS PERSON. I WANT TO SEE IF THAT IS REALLY THE POLICY. ARE WE ASKING CITIZENS TO GO INTERVENE WITH PEOPLE THEY DO NOT KNOW, THERE MAY BE A MENTAL PROBLEM, OR DRUG ADDICTION PROBLEM, ARE WE ASKING PEOPLE TO INTERACT WITH STRANGERS ON BEHALF OF THE CITY WHEN THEY'RE TRYING TO FIND HELP WITH THE --? >> COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, I LISTENED TO THE FIRST PART OF THE TAPE. AS FAR AS OUR POLICY, THERE'S A SET OF QUESTIONS THAT OUR DISPATCHERS FOLLOW. ONE OF THE QUESTIONS IS HAVE YOU TALKED TO THEM OR HAVE YOU ASKED THEM ANYTHING. MAKING SURE WE GET THE INFORMATION NEEDED TO DETERMINE WHAT TYPE OF DISPATCH WE NEED TO GO. WHETHER IT'S A SEIZURE, HEART ATTACK, OR A HEATSTROKE. THIS IS SOMETHING WE HAVE A TWO-WAY POLICY IN PLACE THAT WE'RE REVIEWING HER CONCERN AND MAKING SURE THAT EVERYTHING THAT SHE HAS CONCERNS ABOUT IS GOING TO BE ADDRESSED AND HOW WE CAN DO IT BETTER NEXT TIME. THAT'S THE LAST THING WE WANT IS ANY CITIZEN HAVE CONCERNS ABOUT CALLING. I WANT TO BE PERFECTLY CLEAR, WE WANT EVERYBODY THAT FEELS THEY NEED HELP, WE'RE HERE TO SERVE THEM. AND MAKE SURE THEY DON'T FEEL LIKE THEY'RE BEING ASKED SOMETHING THAT IS OUT OF THEIR SCOPE. THERE ARE QUESTIONS THAT WE DO ASK. THIS IS A NEW DISPATCHER. WE'RE TALKING TO HIM AND ADDRESSING AND MAKING SURE HE UNDERSTANDS THE POLICY THOROUGHLY BEFORE HE ASKS SOMEONE TO TALK TO SOMEONE. THERE'S A QUESTION THAT DID THEY TALK TO THEM, SO WE CAN GET THE FULL UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT WE'RE DISPATCHING OUR PERSONNEL. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, CHIEF. MAY I CONTINUE, MR. PRESIDENT? I'M DISTURBED YOU HAVEN'T HEARD THE SECOND PART OF THE TAPE BECAUSE I HAVE. IT WAS REQUESTED SEVERAL DAYS AGO. WE GOT IT AND FORWARDED TO YOUR DEPARTMENT AS WELL. IT WAS NOT A QUESTION OF HAVE YOU TALKED TO THE GENTLEMAN, IT WAS TWO OR THREE TIMES, WE CAN PLAY IT IF YOU LIKE, YOU KNOW, GO BACK AND TALK TO HIM AND FIND OUT WHAT'S GOING ON. I'M REALLY CONCERNED. I WOULD NOT WANT TO BE DIRECTED TO DO THAT IF I WAS TRYING TO GET SOMEBODY TO HELP. I DON'T THINK THE CITIZENS OF ALBUQUERQUE SHOULD BE EITHER. >> YES, MA'AM. WE'LL ADDRESS AND TALK TO OUR MEMBERS. WE WANT TO GATHER AS MUCH INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE SO WE GET THE PROPER RESOURCES OUT TO THEM. I WANT TO SAY THE ACS WAS IN ROUTE TO THIS CALL. I KNOW THAT THEY WERE TRYING TO GATHER INFORMATION. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS FOR THE CHIEF OF POLICE. >>COUN. BENTON: THE OTHER CHIEF. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >> HOW ARE YOU DOING, CHIEF? SOME OF THE THINGS WE'RE LOOKING AT IS THE SAME THINGS WE DISCUSSED LAST TIME. I WANTED TO ASK QUESTIONS AGAIN. HOW MANY OFFICERS DO YOU HAVE BOOTS ON THE GROUND, FIELD SERVICES OFFICERS, THAT ARE ANSWERING CALLS FOR SERVICE? THAT'S INCLUDING THE OFFICERS THAT GO TO CALLS FROM CALL TO CALL, NOT INCLUDING SERGEANTS OR LIEU TENTS, THE OFFICERS ACTUALLY ANSWERING THE CALLS FOR SERVICE. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, THINGVISE CHANGE -- THINGS HAVE CHANGED. SERGEANTS REPORT TO CALLS FOR SERVICE. THEY'RE RESPONDING TO CALLS FOR SERVICE THAT'S PART OF THE MANY THINGS THEY DO IN THE BALANCE OF WHAT THEY'RE TRYING TO DO TO HAVE PEOPLE HAVE HELP WITH ADMINISTRATIVE PROCESSES TO CONTINUE TO RESPOND FOR CALLS TO SERVICE. THAT'S AN IMPORTANT TO ASK. WHAT IS A CALL FOR SERVICE? I THINK THERE'S MANY TIMES WE HAVE TO REMEMBER OUR TRAFFIC SECTION TAKES TRAFFIC ACCIDENTS. WHICH RESULTS IN CALLS FOR SERVICE IN UNIFORMED OFFICERS. TO ANSWER YOUR QUESTION SPECIFICALLY, AS FOR STAFFING OF THE FIELD SERVICE BUREAU SOUTHWEST AREA COMMAND, 66, VALLEY 93, NORTHEAST 88, FOOTHILLS, 78, NORTHWEST 74. IF YOU LIKE TO REMOVE BOARD PERSONNEL. THOSE NUMBERS WOULD BE FOUR BELOW WHAT I JUST TOLD YOU. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: WHAT'S THE TOTAL? >> THE TOTAL IS -- I'LL HAVE TO ADD THOSE UP. WE'LL ADD IT UP AND GET IT OVER TO YOU. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: OKAY. HOW MANY OFFICERS DO WE HAVE ON THE ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT CURRENTLY? LAST MEETING YOU HAD 875. >> WE'RE AT 895, THAT INCLUDES LAST GRADUATING CLASS FROM LAST WEEK. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: DID YOU HAVE ALL 26 GRADUATE? >> I BELIEVE THERE'S 26 OR 27 THAT GRADUATED. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: AND HOW MANY -- BETWEEN LAST MEETING ON THE SECOND AND UNTIL TODAY? >> I DON'T HAVE THE EXACT NUMBERS TO THIS DATE. I CAN TELL YOU IN THE MONTH OF MAY WE HAD FIVE RESIGNATIONS AND TWO RETIREMENTS FOR A TOTAL OF SEVEN SEPARATIONS FOR THE MONTH OF MAY. ACTUALLY, MAKE THAT SIX BECAUSE ONE INDIVIDUAL ASKED TO MEET WITH US. THERE MAY BE A SECOND. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: ALL RIGHT. AND YOU WERE GOING TO GET ME INFORMATION IN REFERENCE TO GUN VIOLENCE NUMBERS. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, GIVE ME ONE SECOND. RIGHT NOW, WE'RE AT 50 HOMICIDES FOR THE YEAR WHICH IS EQUAL TO LAST YEAR. TOMORROW, IF WE GET THROUGH TODAY, WE'LL BE DOWN BY ONE. THAT NUMBER FLUCTUATES THROUGHOUT THE YEAR. WE DID HAVE HEAVY MONTH IN MAY IN TERMS OF HOMICIDES. AND IT WAS HIGHER THAN USUAL. WE DO ALMOST HAVE A 95% CLEARANCE RATE. I WAS TOLD WE HAVE CASES WE HOPE TO HAVE CLEARED BY THENNED -- THE END OF THE WEEK. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: MR. PRESIDENT, CHIEF, DO YOU COUNT THE HOMICIDES IN THE CITY LIMITS WITH THE OTHER AGENCIES? THESE ARE STILL WITHIN ALBUQUERQUE. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, WE DHOUNT WE COUNT THE HOMICIDES THAT ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT TAKES. I DON'T BELIEVE ANY OTHER ASSISTS WITH US. THERE WAS TWO IN 2021. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY CASES WE LOOK AT THAT OCCURRED IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE THAT SOMEONE ELSE IS INVESTIGATING. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: CHIEF, HOW ABOUT BCSO? HOW MANY HAVE THEY INVESTIGATED WITHIN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE? >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, I DON'T BELIEVE THEY INVESTIGATED ANY WITHIN THE JURISDICTION OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. WE CAN DOUBLE CHECK AND GET YOU THAT RESPONSE LATER. CURRENTLY, WE ARE LOOKING IN TERMS OF GUN VIOLENCE, WE ARE AT 107 BULLET SHOOTINGS IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE FOR 2022 COMPARED TO 95 LAST YEAR. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: 107? WE HAVEN'T MADE ANY IMPROVEMENT FROM LAST YEAR TO THIS YEAR? >> NO. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: HOW MANY MORE OFFICERS DO WE HAVE ON THE STREETS REFERENCE LAST YEAR AT THIS TIME? >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, I BELIEVE WE HAVE LESS OFFICERS THAN LAST YEAR IN ALBUQUERQUE. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THE REASON I'M ASKING AND WHAT CONCERNS ME, CHIEF, IS WE'RE NOT GETTING BETTER. THAT'S A WHOLE YEAR GONE BY AND THERE SHOULD BE SOME SORT OF IMPROVEMENT IN REFERENCE TO WHAT WE'RE SEEING. WE'RE IN ALBUQUERQUE, IT'S OUR JOB TO MAKE SURE THAT THESE THINGS IMPROVE. IF THEY DON'T IMPROVE, THEN THINGS NEED TO CHANGE. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, I AGREE WITH YOU. WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER TO MAKE SURE THINGS IMPROVE. I'M SITTING HERE IN FRONT OF ALL OF COUNCIL, I'M GOING TO SAY THIS, IF EVERYBODY'S EXPECTING ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT ALONE TO REDUCE VIOLENT CRIME, THEY'RE MISTAKEN. IT'S GOING TO TAKE ALL OF US AS A COMMUNITY TO REDUCE VIOLENT CRIME. WE'RE NO DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER CITY WITHIN THE REST OF THE COUNTRY. WE'RE SEEING AN UPTICK. WE HAVE A BROKEN CRIMINAL JUSTICE SYSTEM. WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER TO ENSURE WE HAVE HIGH LEVELS OF PROSECUTION. DISTRICT COURT WAS SHUT DOWN FOR A PERIOD OF TIME DURING THE PANDEMIC. WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER TO FIND SOLUTIONS. THE MAYOR'S CRIME INITIATIVE WAS THE FIRST STEP IN THAT. THE SECOND STEP IS MEETING AGAIN. WE'RE ASKING FOR THE COUNCIL TO WORK ON QUICKER, FASTER NUISANCE ABASEMENT. EVERY PART OF THE CITY THAT HAS AN INCREASE OF CRIME. WE NEED TO FOCUS ON THOSE SPECIFIC AREAS. COUNCILOR DAVIS HAS SPECIFIC AREAS IN THE SOUTHEAST WE'VE DISCUSSED. COUNCILOR BENTON HAS SPECIFIC AREAS WITHIN THE VALLEY THAT WE DISCUSSED. YOU HAVE AREAS WITHIN YOUR COMMAND THAT WE'VE ALSO KNOWN ARE HIGH CRIME AREAS THAT HAVE SPECIFIC LOCATIONS THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS. OUR ASK OF COUNCIL IS HELP US IMPROVE AND STRENGTHEN AND SPEED UP THE PROCESS OF OUR NUISANCE ABASE -- ABATEMENT. AND LET'S MAKE SOME CHANGES THAT REALLY ASSIST US IN LOWERING SOME OF THE CRIME RATES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: OKAY. MR. PRESIDENT, IF THAT'S THE CASE, THEN CITY COUNCIL WILL HELP IN ANY WAY WE CAN. THE BOTTOM LINE IS WE'RE LOOKING AT THE LAWS THAT ARE NOT ENFORCED AT THE LOWEST LEVEL. WHICH BRINGS TO ME SPECIAL ORDER THAT YOU RECENTLY PASSED IN REFERENCE TO NOT ATTEMPT ENFORCEMENT OF LITTERING, TRESS PASSING, UNLESS THE FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT REQUESTS ENFORCEMENT AND ONLY AFTER FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT DETERMINE THE HOMELESS CAMP IS CONTINUING TO TRESPASS AFTER BEING GIVEN A 72 HOUR NOTICE TO VACATE. THAT'S A COMPLETE LACK OF DISCRETION FOR THE OFFICERS IN REFERENCE TO ENFORCE THE LAWS OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. >> I THINK IT'S VERY IMPORTANT THAT WE UNDERSTAND THE HISTORY BEHIND THAT AND WE DO NOT MAKE MISTAKES THAT AFFECTED OTHER CITIES AND PUT THEM IN A POSITION WHERE THEY'RE UNABLE TO ENFORCE THESE LAWS PERIOD. I JUST CAME BACK AND SPOKE WITH SEVERAL MAJOR CITIES. ONE OF THE THINGS THIS SPECIAL ORDER DOES IS WE WILL NOT FORCE THAT IN PUBLIC LAND. OFFICERS CAN GO TO PRIVATE PROPERTY AND ENFORCE THOSE YOU JUST MENTIONED. THIS IS SPECIFIC TO PUBLIC PROPERTY AND OFFICERS BEING ABLE TO ENFORCE THESE LAWS. YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER YEARS AGO WHEN YOU AND I WERE YOUNG PATROL OFFICERS WE DEALT WITH HOMELESS AND NINE OUT OF TEN TIMES WHAT HAPPENED TO THEIR PROPERTY WAS SOMETHING THAT SHOULDN'T HAVE HAPPENED TO THEIR PROPERTY. WE NEED TO BE CONCERNED WITH HOW WE REMOVE INDIVIDUALS FROM PUBLIC PROPERTY, WE NEED TO ENSURE THEIR RIGHTS ARE FOLLOWED AND THERE'S A PROCESS THAT CAN BE FOLLOWED IN COURT. IT'S EASY TO SAY LET'S ARREST THE HOMELESS IN THE PARK, WHEN WE RIST THEM WE TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEM AND THEIR PROPERTY. THE PROCESS WE PUT IN THE COMMUNITY PUTS IT WHERE WE'RE ABLE TO REMOVE THOSE INDIVIDUALS, WE DO NOT TAKE OWNERSHIP OF THEIR PROPERTY BECAUSE SANITARY REASONS WE'RE CLEANING THAT PARK UP WHICH REALLY LESSONS THE IMPACT OF OUR OFFICERS BEING TIED DOWN FOR SIMPLE MISDEMEANOR ARREST OF THAT SORT. THIS IS A BEST PRACTICE, THIS IS ONE WAY WE'RE GOING TO DO IT. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: WE'RE MORE CONCERNED ABOUT THE PROPERTY THAN WE ARE ABOUT THE LAWS THEY'RE BREAKING? THAT'S WHAT I'M GETTING. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, I'M VERY CONCERNED ABOUT THEIR RIGHTS AFFORDED TO THEM UNDER THE CONSTITUTION OF THE UNITED STATES AND ENSURE WE FOLLOW THE GUIDELINE AND MAKE SURE WE'RE DOING THIS PROPERLY. THIS SPECIAL ORDER IS PUTTING THE PROCESS IN PLACE WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT, IT'S PUTTING A PROCESS IN PLACE THAT IS GOING TO PROTECT THE CITY AND TAXPAYERS FROM LIABILITY. I HIGHLY RECOMMEND THAT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, YOU FIND TIME TO SIT DOWN AND ADDRESS THIS ISSUE WITH CITY LEGAL TO FIND OUT WHERE THIS IS COMING FROM AND WHY WE'RE DOING THIS AND WHY WE'RE DOING IT AND WHY IT WILL PROTECT THE LIABILITY OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. THERE'S CHANGES WE'RE MAKING. THERE ARE CHANGES WE WANT TO MAKE IN SUFRMS OF SIDE WALK AND AREAS PEOPLE ARE MOVING, WE WANT TO TAKE THAT OUT. WE COULD NOT ALLOW PEOPLE IN THOSE LOCATIONS. THAT IS WHY WE ARE RESCINDING THE SPECIAL ORDER AND CLARIFY THE LANGUAGE TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE A BALANCE OF PROTECTING PEOPLE'S RIGHTS AND AT THE SAME TIME ENFORCING THE SAFETY FOR THE PUBLIC. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: I'M STILL GETTING THE SAME IMAGE. MR. PRESIDENT, CHIEF, I'M STILL GETTING THE MESSAGE WE'RE NOT FOCUSING ON THE TAXPAYER. WE'RE FOCUSING ON SOMEONE WHO IS BREAKING THE LAW. AND THAT'S THE MESSAGE THAT I'M STILL GETTING. AND I'M SURE THAT EVERYBODY ELSE IS IN HERE IS STILL GETTING THAT. WHEN WE DRIVE BACK AND FORTH TO OUR HOUSES AND WE DRIVE BACK AND FORTH WITHIN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE AND WE ATTEMPT TO RUN OUR BUSINESSES AND WE CALL THE POLICE, AND WE ASK FOR THE POLICE TO COME OUT AND YOU SAID YOU'VE ALREADY DEALT WITH THIS, WE'RE STILL NOT SEEING THAT. JUST THE OTHER DAY, I CALLED THE POLICE, AND FOR CRIMINAL TRESPASS, SMOKING FENT FALL IN PUBLIC AND NOTHING HAS CHANGED. >>COUN. BENTON: WE HAVE QUESTIONS FROM OTHER COUNCILORS. COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THIS POINT. CHIEF, I THINK GETTING THE MESSAGE IS RIGHT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT FOR US TO FOCUS ON HOW MANY OFFICERS WE HAVE AVAILABLE TO SERVICE THE FOLKS CALLING. I ALSO WANT TO BE SURE WE GET A CHANCE TO CATCH UP ON OTHER THINGS. THE NEW IMR COME OUT. I WANT TO SAY, CHIEF YOU CAN CORRECT ME, I WANT TO SAY IN MY SIX YEARS ON THE COUNCIL IN THIS THE FIRST TIME YOU SEEN A POSITIVE IMR THAT SAID WE MADE SIGNIFICANT PROGRESS ON A FEW KEY PIECES. I WONDER IF YOU CAN GIVE US UPDATE ON WHAT'S CHANGED AND WHAT YOU SEE COMING NEXT? >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR DAVIS, WE WENT UNDER SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT AND THE CITY ADMITTED THERE'S THINGS WE NEED TO DO BETTER. ONE OF THE BIGGEST OBSTACLES WAS CHANGING THE CULTURE OF APD. I'M HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE WE CHANGED THAT CULTURE IN A WAY THAT IS REFLECTING IN THE MONITOR'S REPORT. ONE OF THE THINGS WE LEARNED AND THE OFFICERS LEARNED IS COMPASSION FOR THE COMMUNITY. THAT'S COMPASSION FOR ALL MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY. I STAND HERE TODAY STATING WE WILL CONTINUE TO MOVE IN THE DIRECTION TO ENSURE YOUR OFFICERS TREAT ALL MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY WITH DIGNITY AND RESPECT. I THINK IT'S REFLECTED IN THIS REPORT. AND I'M HOPING WITHIN THE NEXT TWO YEARS WE'LL BE ABLE TO GET OUT OF THE SETTLEMENT AGREEMENT. >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. PRESIDENT, CHIEF, I'M GLAD YOU'RE HERE. FOCUS ONG THE SMALL THINGS DOES MATTER. I DON'T THINK ARRESTING FOLKS FOR THEIR ADDICTIONS IS HELPING. IN FACT, WE HAVE LOTS OF DATA THAT SHOWS US THE MOST EXPENSIVE APPROACH TO DEALING WITH THAT PROBLEM AND EXAGGERATING IT. IT INCREASES ADDICTION, IT CAUSES THE SOCIAL ISSUES THAT GO WITH IT. I APPLAUD THE DEPARTMENT FOR ALLOWING ACS TO STEP UP AND WORK ON THOSE FIRST AND ADDRESS THE IMPACT. INSTEAD OF DEALING WITH SOMEONE USING DRUGS ON THE STREET FOR EXAMPLE. IF THEY BREAK INTO THE HOUSE, THAT'S WHAT THE POLICE AND CRIMINAL JUSTICE IS FOR. WE HAVE TO FIND THIS BALANCE. I APPRECIATE THAT YOU'RE DOING THAT. THERE'S ALSO A BIGGER MESSAGE I WANT TO FOCUS ON. CHIEF, I'VE BEEN REALLY NOTICING THAT ON TWITTER AND IN THE PUBLIC REALM, FOR THE FIRST TIME, WE SEEM TO BE CLOSING HOMICIDE CASES THAN WE HAVE IN A LONG TIME. THERE'S RE STRUSTRUCTUING BEING DONE. WHERE ARE WE IN TERMS OF, I KNOW HOW MANY HOMICIDES WE'VE HAD, WHERE ARE WE IN CLOSING THOSE? >> WE'RE AT ABOUT 50% OF HOMICIDES FROM THIS YEAR CLOSED. WE HAVE ANOTHER BATCH OF HOMICIDES THAT WE CLOSED FROM THE PREVIOUS YEAR. AS YOU KNOW, FBI PROTOCOLS STATES WE HAVE TO COUNT ALL THE HOMICIDES WITHIN THE YEAR. WE'RE AT 95% CLEARANCE RATE. THIS IS THE HIGHEST CLEARANCE RATE APD HAS EVER CARRIED. WE'RE CLEARING THESE CASES. WE'RE ALSO PUTTING EMPHASIS ON THE FAMILIES. AND WITH THE LEGISLATURE SUPPORT WE'VE BEEN ABLE TO UP THE AMOUNT OF ADVOCATES WE HAVE TO ADDRESS SOME OF OUR VICTIM'S FAMILY AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE INFORMED WITH THE PROCESS OCCURRING. >>COUN. DAVIS: WE HAVE OTHER THINGS THAT WILL TAKE TIME. BUT I WANT TO ASK CHIEF, AND MAYBE WE CAN DO THIS IN AN INFORMAL SETTING. WE'RE BACK TO TALKING ABOUT GUN VIOLENCE AGAIN. CERTAINLY, RECENTLY, WORKING WITH YOU AND SOME OF THE FORMER SCHOOL RESOURCE OFFICERS I GUESS THEY'RE STILL CURRENT WE PASSED SOME OF THE SCHOOL THREAT LAWS THAT BECOME STATE LAWS. AND LOOK FOR US TO GET DATA AND TAKE NOTES ON THE NUMBER OF GUNS SEIZED THIS YEAR, PARTICULARLY BY UNITS AND OTHERS. AND WHAT TACTICS ARE WORKING AND THE SCHOOL VIOLENCE RESPONSIVE PLAN. HOW MANY TIMES DID WE USE THE LEGISLATION THAT WE PASSED FOR APD TO USE IN SCHOOLS? AND WOULD LOVE TO SEE IN A DIFFERENT SETTING HOW APD IS ADDRESSING THE ACTIVE SHOOTER RESPONSES TO LOOK AT MASS CASUALTY EVENTS. CERTAINLY AT ANOTHER TIME. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR DAVIS, WE'D LOVE TO RETURN AT A LATER TIME AND SPEAK ABOUT OUR PLAN. [ INAUDIBLE ]. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, CHIEF, YOU SAID YOU HAVE FEWER OFFICERS. I THINK YOU HAVE FEWER OFFICERS ON THE STREETS. IT'S JUST SHOCKING TO HEAR THAT. I GUESS I WOULD LIKE THE ADMINISTRATION TO ADDRESS THAT. IT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN THE PRIORITY, NOT JUST THE PRIORITY, BUT I KNOW OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS IT'S BEEN SUCH A PRIORITY TO THE POINT WHERE THE MAYOR SAID THIS IS CRITICAL TO COMMUNITY POLICING AND REDUCING CRIME IN OUR CITY, CRITICAL TO INCREASING OUR TRAFFIC STOPS. THE CITY HAS MORE MONEY THAN IT EVER HAD BEFORE. PUBLIC SAFETY HAS MORE MONEY THAN ITS EVER HAD BEFORE. SPECIFICALLY, IF YOU WOULD ADDRESS, MAYBE MR. RAEL ADDRESS THE ISSUE OF FEWER OFFICERS ON THE STREETS THAN WE HAD LAST YEAR AND THE PRIORITY. IS IT STILL A PRIORITY OF THE ADMINISTRATION? IS IT STILL A PRIORITY OF THE MAYOR TO HIRE? DWLNG I THINK THE GOAL WAS 1100 POLICE OFFICERS. WE'RE A LONG WAY FROM THAT. WE'RE NO CLOSER TO THAT THAN LAST YEAR. EVEN OVER THE LAST FIVE YEARS. IF YOU WOULD ADDRESS THAT. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I THINK IT'S BEEN A PRIORITY OF THIS ADMINISTRATION FROM DAY ONE TO GET TO THE MAGIC NUMBER OF 1100 OFFICERS, IF NOT 1200 OFFICERS. WE DID WELL THE FIRST FOUR YEARS OF THE ADMINISTRATION. WE'RE HIRING UP TO 100 OFFICERS A YEAR. WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO A POINT WHERE WE THOUGHT WE WOULD BE IN A VERY GOOD POSITION. IN THE MIDDLE OF THAT WE HAD A PANDEMIC AND WE HAD A COMPLETE RESTRUCTURING OF HOW PEOPLE PURSUE OCCUPATIONS. IT'S NO MYSTERY THAT MANY, MANY OF OUR POSITIONS AROUND CITY GOVERNMENT, WHETHER IT'S POLICE OR TRANSIT DRIVERS, THINGS HAVE CHANGED DRAMATICALLY. WE'RE FOCUSED ON CONTINUING TO ENSURE WE GET TO THOSE NUMBERS. I KNOW THE CHIEF HAS SOME PLANS TO CONTINUE TO WORK THROUGH. WE'VE GOT RELATIONSHIPS WITH CNM. WE'RE GOING OUT AND RECRUITING. WE'RE TRYING TO GET LATERAL OFFICERS THAT WANT TO COME TO THE DEPARTMENT. WE'RE LOOKING AT INCENTIVES ACROSS THE BOARD TRY TO ENCOURAGE FOLKS TO STAY WITH THE DEPARTMENT OR TO MOVE TO THE DEPARTMENT FROM OTHER DEPARTMENTS. IT'S A CONTINUING EFFORT. I KNOW THE CHIEF HAS SOME PLANS THAT WE WANT TO ITERATE WITH YOU OR TALK WITH YOU TONIGHT. I WILL SAY TO YOU, IT'S OUR EFFORT OR GOAL TO WORK ON THOSE NUMBERS AND GET THE NUMBER OF FOLKS UP IN A DEPARTMENT BECAUSE IT'S CRITICAL FOR THE CITY. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, I KNOW YOU'RE HOPEFUL, I'M HOPEFUL. BUT THERE'S BEEN NO PROGRESS MADE. EVEN IN THE FIRST FOUR YEARS YOU MIGHT HAVE HIRED OFFICERS, BUT WE'VE LOST THEM. THERE'S BEEN NO GET PROGRESS. DO WE ADMIT IT'S A FAILURE AND TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT? SOMETHING NEW? I APPRECIATE YOU TALKING ABOUT SOME NEW SOLUTIONS. I THINK THAT'S WHERE WE NEED TO HEAD. I THINK WE NEED TO BE VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT WHAT IT'S GOING TO TAKE TO GET THERE AND WHAT YOU NEED FROM THIS COUNCIL TO GET THERE. I THINK IT STARTS BY SAYING WE'VE MADE NO PROGRESS IN FIVE YEARS OF HIRING MORE POLICE OFFICERS THAN WE'VE HAD BEFORE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, I THINK AS A NEW CITY COUNCILLOR AND A NEW COUNCILOR HERE BEFORE YOU KNOW HOW CHALLENGING THIS ISSUE IS. THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS FAILURE. THERE'S QUESTION OF CONTINUING TO WORK AT AN ISSUE THAT HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE FOR THE CITY FOR MANY YEARS. AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK TOWARD THAT EFFORT. AND LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING TO MOVE THE DEPARTMENT IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. AND JUST BY THE MERE CONVERSATIONS WE'VE HAD ABOUT SOME OF THE POSITIVE THINGS THAT ARE HAPPENING IN THE DEPARTMENT, I THINK IT SHOWS THE DEPARTMENT IS WORKING REALLY HARD TO MAKE THINGS BETTER AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO DO SO. >>COUN. LEWIS: . >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: WHEN IS THE NEXT CADET CLASS STARTING? >> COUNCILOR GROUT, COUNCILOR BENTON, I WILL BE WELCOMING THE NEXT CADET CLASS TOMORROW. >>COUN. GROUT: FABULOUS. HOW MANY? >> I BELIEVE WE HAVE 35. >>COUN. GROUT: THAT'S GREAT. >> I'M HAPPY TO ANNOUNCE OUR PLANS TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF PSA RESULTED IN FIVE PSA GRADUATING. WE HAVE SIX MORE PSA STARTING. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILORS, ARE THERE QUESTIONS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION? COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I HAVE QUESTIONS FOR FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES. >>COUN. PEÑA: BEFORE THE CHIEF LEAVES, WOULD YOU MIND? I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO YOU, DEPUTY CHIEF BROWN, SERGEANT MIDDLETEN, EVERYONE WHO PARTICIPATED WITH THE WEEKEND'S LOW RIDER. THE ADMINISTRATION, I WANT TO SAY IT WAS REALLY INSPIRATIONAL AND THE WORK DONE, WE'RE TALKING ABOUT POSITIVE WITH APD. I THINK THE WORK BEING DONE TO BRIDGE THE COMMUNITY AND THE LOW RIDERS TO COMMOVE OUR COMMUNITY FORWARD REALLY SHINED THIS WEEKEND. I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR PARTICIPATING. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: MR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. I HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT HOUSING FOR THE OVERNIGHT SHELTERS. DO WE HAVE A CENTRALIZED DATABASE TO COLLECT THE NUMBER OF EMPTY SHELTER BEDS EVERY NIGHT? >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR GROUT, I THINK THAT QUESTION WAS ASKED AND WE'RE WORKING ON THAT. I THINK WE HAVE AN ESTIMATE OF CITY SHELTERED BEDS THAT INFORMATION WAS COLLECTED. WE CAN HAVE DEPUTY SPEAK TO THAT. THERE ISN'T A SYSTEM DAILY THAT SAYS HOW MANY SHELTER BEDS ARE AVAILABLE. BUT BECAUSE OF THE CONVERSATION THAT WE HAD, I THINK LAST COUNCIL MEETING, WE HAVE SOME OF THE INFORMATION. DEPUTY CAN ADDRESS THAT. >> HELLO, PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, WE DID TAKE A TALLY OF ALL OF OUR CITY-FUNDED SHELTERS THAT INCLUDE BARRETT, GOOD SHEPHERD, HEADING HOME, WHICH HAS THE ALBUQUERQUE OPPORTUNITY CENTER, WEST SIDE SHELTER, AND THE WELLNESS HOTEL. THE ONLY OPEN BEDS ARE AT THE WEST SIDE SHELTER. WE HAVE ABOUT 998 BEDS THAT ARE CITY-FUNDED. YOU'LL NOTICE DIFFERENT FROM THE LAST TOTAL WHICH IS ALL THE SHELTER BEDS IN ALBUQUERQUE. AND IN THE WINTER MONTHS WE HAVE ABOUT 58 OPEN BEDS. SUMMER, ABOUT 149 AVERAGE OPEN BEDS. WHICH IS ABOUT 207 TOTAL. >>COUN. GROUT: ARE ANY OF THE FAITH-BASED SHELTERS INCLUDED? >> NO. IF YOU CONSIDER GOOD SHEPHERD. >>COUN. GROUT: IS THERE ANY WAY WE CAN HAVE A COLLECTIVE, I'D LIKE SOME KIND OF A SYSTEM, TO COMMUNICATE WITH THE DIFFERENT VENDORS, FAITH-BASED AND CITY FUNDED, TO GET THESE PEOPLE OFF THE STREET? I WAS TALKING WITH ACS TODAY, AND SOMETIMES THEY PICK UP FOLKS OFF THE STREET AND THEY DON'T KNOW WHERE TO TAKE THEM BECAUSE NOBODY'S COMMUNICATING WITH THEM WHERE TO TAKE THEM. I THINK THAT WE SHOULD BE WORKING TOGETHER. PERHAPS HAVE A DATABASE THAT IS UPDATED DAILY SO WE KNOW WHERE TO TAKE THESE PEOPLE WHEN SOMEBODY IS TRYING TO DO THEIR JOB AND GET THEM OFF THE STREETS. >> PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, THAT IS A GREAT IDEA. I THINK IT WOULD TAKE SOME ADDITIONAL ADMINISTRATIVE SUPPORT TO RUN SOMETHING LIKE THAT. ALTHOUGH IT WOULD BE A FRACTION OF A POSITION TO DO SO. I WOULD SPEAK TO THE FACT THAT WE ARE EXPLORING A CASE CONFERENCING MODEL TO PLACE PEOPLE IN HOUSING. PERHAPS THE SHELTER PIECE COULD BE INCORPORATED INTO THAT AS WELL. >>COUN. GROUT: I THINK IT'S A NO-BRAINER. ANOTHER QUESTION I HAVE IS ABOUT TRANSPORTATION. TO THE WEST SIDE SHELTER. HOW OFTEN DOES THE BUS RUN? WHERE DOES IT PICK PEOPLE UP? >> IT PICKS PEOPLE UP AND DROPS PEOPLE OFF. ONCE A DAY, EACH, AT THE CORONADO PARK. THERE'S A PICK UP AT -- WARE HOUSE. >>COUN. GROUT: -- I'VE HEARD THE ARGUMENT THAT PEOPLE CAN'T COME AND GO FROM THE WEST SIDE BECAUSE THERE ISN'T TRANSPORTATION. CAN WE INCREASE TRANSPORTATION LIKE THE BUS SYSTEM? LIKE WE DO ON ALL OF OUR PUBLIC STREETS? IF THAT WOULD HELP. THERE'S A LOT OF MONEY IN YOUR BUDGET. I THINK WE SHOULD CONSIDER THAT, AS WELL. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR GROUT, RIGHT NOW THERE IS TRANSPORTATION AVAILABLE IF SOMEBODY WERE TO NEED TO COME IN WHEN IT WASN'T THE DESIGNATED TIME BECAUSE PEOPLE DO NEED TO COME IN FOR METHADONE TREATMENT AND WE DO HAVE VANS THAT ARE AVAILABLE FOR PEOPLE TO COME IN AND OUT AS THEY NEED TO. >>COUN. GROUT: VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. COUNCILORS, ANY OTHER Q&A FOR THE ADMINISTRATION? SEEING NONE. WE'LL MOVE TO THE APPROVAL OF THE JOURNAL. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE MAY 16th JOURNAL. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR DAVIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES. YES. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION? I WILL MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR THE PURPOSE OF INTRODUCING O-32 AND REFERRING IT TO THE LAND USE PLANNING AND ZONING. IT'S ADOPTING THE ZONING MAP AMENDMENT FOR .76 ACRES. LOCATED AT 10,000 COUNTRY CLUB LANE BETWEEN GOLF COURSE AND PARADISE HILLS GOLF COURSE. TO FEATURE REDEVELOPMENT UNDER THE ZONE REDISTRICT. THIS NEEDS A TWO-THIRDS VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF SUSPENDING THE RULES? OPPOSED? THAT PASSED. I'LL MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR PLACING EC93 ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA FOR ACTION. IT'S APPROVAL OF UNALLOCATED EMERGENCY SOLUTIONS GRANT MATCH AND ENTITLEMENT FUNDS AS LISTED IN THE HUD 2021 ACTION PLAN. SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES. RAISE YOUR HAND. AND THAT PASSES. NEXT IS COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, COUNCILOR LEWIS, COUNCILOR JONES. R-18. >>COUN. LEWIS: I MOVE R-18. CREATING A PILOT PROGRAM TO REVIEW BUDGET APPROACH OF THE OPERATING BUDGET. I MAKE A MOTION THAT R-18 BE PULLED OUT OF THE FINANCE AND OPERATION MEETING AND BE PLACED ON THE CITY COUNCIL AGENDA. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR GROUT. ALL RIGHT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES. VICE-PRESIDENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: I MOVE A APPROVAL OF THE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. >>COUN. BENTON: SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND. THAT PASSES. WE HAVE NO COMMITTEE REPORTS TONIGHT. WE'LL MOVE TO DEFERRALS AND WITHDRAWALS. ARE THERE ANY DEFERRALS OR WITHDRAWALS AT THIS TIME? COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: MR. PRESIDENT, I MOVE R-13 TO INSTALL STOP SIGNS AT CUTLER TO BE DEFERRED UNTIL SEPTEMBER 7th. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR DAVIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES. MOVE TO THE CONSENT AGENDA. ARE THERE ANY CHANGES TO THE CONSENT AGENDA? >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT. I'D LIKE TO PULL EC22-39 FROM THE CONSENT AGENDA. >>COUN. BENTON: OKAY. ANY OTHERS? COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES, MR. PRESIDENT. I WAS LOOKING AT EC22-66. AND IT SAYS REVENUE EXPENSE REPORT FOR SECOND QUARTER FISCAL YEAR 2022 AND QUARTERLY SAVINGS USE REPORT THROUGH APD. I JUST HAD A QUESTION IN REFERENCE TO THE ADMINISTRATION. IT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS 45K. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR, WE'LL GO AHEAD AND APPROVE THE AGENDA AND WE'LL GET BACK TO THAT. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: SOUNDS GOOD. >>COUN. BENTON: THANKS. FOR THE INDIVIDUALS ON TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA WHO ARE BEING APPOINTED TO SERVE ON A BOARD OR COMMISSION, THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE. AND WE'LL MOVE TO APPROVAL. COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? SECOND FROM COUNCILOR GROUT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF CONSENT AGENDA WITH THE TWO ITEMS PULLED SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES. NOW WE'LL GO TO COUNCILOR LEWIS, EC22-39. >>COUN. LEWIS: THIS IS APPROPRIATION TO THE AVIATION FOR NEW CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. I WANTED TO SEE IF THE ADMINISTRATION WOULD ADDRESS A RECENT AUDIT THAT INTERNAL AUDIT DID REGARDING SOME OF THE MOST RECENT CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. I DON'T KNOW IF THE DIRECTOR IS HERE TONIGHT. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, MR. McCURLY IS HERE FROM THE AVIATION DEPARTMENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: THIS INTERNAL AUDIT THAT WAS PUBLISHED IN APRIL OF THIS YEAR, PRETTIY EXTENSIVE AUDIT DONE. IT SAYS THE AUDIT FOUND AVIATION DID NOT FOR HAVE THE APPROPRIATE FRAMEWORK TO MONITOR AND CONTROL PROJECT COST AND RESULTING IN$3 MILLION OF CHANGE ORDERS AFTER THE ORIGINAL CONTRACT COMPLETION DATE. DOES AVIATION STAFF RELY ON THE ARCHITECT CONSULTANT AND -- MAINTAIN THE APPLICATIONS TO ENSURE PROJECT COSTS WERE JUSTIFIED. DOCUMENT VISUAL? SPECTIONS OF PROJECT . >>COUN. LEWIS: AVIATION HAS NOT ASSESSED $700,000 DAMAGES FROM THE CONTRACTOR AS PROVIDED TO HELP RECOVER COSTS WITH THE PROJECT. DIRECTOR, I WOULD JUST ASK, PRETTY EXTENSIVE AUDIT DONE. I THINK WHAT I WOULD ASK YOU IS NOW THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT ANOTHER $110 MILLION AND APPROPRIATING FOR CONSTRUCTION COST AND THE AIRPORT, HAVE YOU ALL APPROPRIATED OR HAVE YOU PUT TOGETHER -- DO YOU HAVE AN APPROPRIATE FRAMEWORK IN PLACE TO EFFECTIVELY MONITOR PROJECT COSTS? >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR LEWIS, YES, WE DO HAVE THE FRAMEWORK IN PLACE. THE ACTIONS WE'VE TAKEN IS THAT WE'VE UTILIZED PROJECT METHOD ON THIS WHICH WILL GIVE US TIME SAVINGS AND ALSO DO A COST CONTROL FOR US ON THE PROJECT WHERE WE HAVE A GUARANTEED MAXIMUM PRICE AGREEMENT. IN ADDITION WE HAVE ICORPORATED DUAL REVIEW AND AUTHORIZATION CALLED PAY REQUEST ANDCHARGE ORDS BY AVIATION AND DMD. THIRD ITEM, WE'RE RETRAINING AND REVIEWING DMD PROCEDURES WITH OUR AVIATION TEAM. WE'RE CREATING A SHARED DRIVE FOR ALL CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS. FIFTH ITEM, WE'RE DEVELOPING SPREAD SHEET FOR THE TRACKING OF PROJECTS WHICH INCLUDES CHANGE ORDERS. SIX, WE'RE DEVELOPING A PROJECT HANDBOOK TO PROVIDE DETAILED GUIDANCE AND PROCESS PROCEDURES IN MANAGING PROJECTS. THE SEVENTH ITEM IS WE'RE HAVING AVIATION INTERNAL AUDITOR THAT CONDUCTS AUDITS EVERY FOUR MONTHS DURING THE DURATION OF THE PROJECT. EIGHTH ITEM IS SCHEDULING PROJECT AUDITS WITH OIA FOR THE PROJECT. THE FINAL FRAMEWORK WE'VE DONE IS RESCINDING AVIATION INTERNAL AUDITOR TO TRAINER CONFERENCE AND CONSTRUCTION AUDITS AND PROJECT PRICE CONTROL. >>COUN. LEWIS: THESE ARE CHANGES YOU'VE MADE SINCE THIS AUDIT CAME OUT? >> SOME OF THEM I'VE INCORPORATED DURING THE TWO YEARS I'VE BEEN ON, AND SOME SINCE THE AUDIT. >>COUN. BENTON: OTHER QUESTIONS? THANK YOU, MR. DIRECTOR. >> MR. PRESIDENT. MAY I JUST MAKE ONE COMMENT? I APOLOGIZE. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE FOR THE RECORD AND IT'S CLEAR. THIS CONTRACT THAT WAS AUDITED BY THE OIG WAS A CONTRACT ISSUED IN THE PREVIOUS ADMINISTRATION. IT WAS A PROBLEMATIC CONTRACT WHEN WE CAME INTO OFFICE. A LITTLE OVER FOUR AND A HALF YEARS AGO. AND I WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE CLEAR ON THIS. THIS IS A CONTRACT THAT HAD A VERY POOR SCOPE. ANDONTRACT ISSUES ASSOCIATED TH SUBCONTRACTORS THAT WALKED OUT OF JOB IN THE MIDDLE OF THE CONTCTIC PERIOD. THERE WE LOT OF ISSUES ASSOCIATED WITH THE OPERATIONS OR WITH THE MANAGEMENT OF THIS PARTICULAR CONTRACT THAT WE ENDED UP HAVING TO WOR WITH AND WORK THUGH. E ISSUES THAT WERE JUST POINTED OUTN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE DOING MOVING FORWARD GIVES US GREAT CONFIDECE WE'RE ABLE TO NA CONTRACTS IN A MUCH BETR METHODOLOGY. I WANT TO MAKE SURE THE RORD S CLEAR THAT THIS CONTRACT HA SOME MAJOR ISSUES THAT WE'RE RKING THROUGH. I MET PERSONALLY WITH THE CONTRACTORS ON RIOUS OCCASIONS. THE FORMER CTRACTORS TO GET THEM TO COME TO THE TAB TO REVIEW THE PROJECT AND HAVE CONTRACTORS FINIS THE JOB. IT'S ONE OF THOSE UORTUNATELY THAT DID NOTET SCOPED OUT CORRECTEDLY AT T BEGINNING OF THE PROCESSND WE ENDED UP WITH A LG DISCUSSION WITH THE FORMERCONTRACTOR. I WOULD ASO POINT OUT THAT W HAVEENT THE CONTRAOR A NOTIFICAION OF PMENT OF LIQUIDATED DAMES FOR TH DELAYS I THE PROJCT. AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO PURS ATEVER ITEMS WEHAVE TO MAKE SU THAT WE RECOR WHATEVER ND WE POSSIBLY CAN,IVEN THATURE OF THE PROJECT. UN. LEWIS: MR. ESIDENT, WHT I SPECIFICALLYAS RDING IS INSI THE AUDIT. IT FUSESNTIRELY ON OUR DEPARTMENT. AND ECIFICALLY, FLURES OF TH DEPARTMT TO PUTA SUFFICIT FRAMORK IN PLACE TO ENSURE THI FRA AND ABUSE WOULDN'T HAPPEN. I APPCIATE T ELANATION OF THE CONTRACTOR. BUT THAT WASN'T THE POINT A ALL. THE POIS WHAT ARE WE ARNIG. WHAT IS T CITYLERNING, WHAT S THE CIT GNG TO DO DIFFERENT REGARDLES OF T CONTRACTOR. THE INTERNAL AUDIT SAID THISS OUR FAULT. THISS THINGS WE NEED CNGE HE. I THINK A PRT OF GROWINGS CITY IHEN WEAVE SERIOUS PRLEMS, HAVING THE DIRECT SAYG THESE ARE FRAMEWOR TO PUT IN PL TO CNGE THAT. IF WE' JUST LOOING AT SE OF THEHINGS AND MAKICUSES. >> IOULD SAY, COUNCILORLEWI I DID NOT MAKEXCUSES. IASRYINGO GIVE YOU ANHE COUNCI A PERECTE OF WHAT HAPPENED BEFORE. THERE'S CLEAR ALWAYS A OPPORTUNITFORS TO LEARNND TO DO A BETTER JOB MR.cCURLILYUTLIES WHAT THO ARE AND CONTIN TO MOVE FOARD. I THINK IT W CRICAL WE HAVE A PERECTIVEF HOW LONG THIS PROCESS WAS IN T KING. ANDE DO HAVE SOME WORK WE HAVE TO DO AND WE'RE PREPARED TO DO THAT AND MOVERWAR COUN. BENTON MR RA AND COUNCILORS,NE THINGHAT ST OUT IS THISOVERRELIANCE ON THE ARCHITECT ASAR AMONITORIN IT WAS A WE-FUNDED DEPARTMENT. THOSE ARCEC DOING TSE PROJECTS ARE MAKING AY NICE FEE. AND SO, W DO UNDSTOD T DEEC BUT, THI IT'S A MANAGENT O CSUANT AND ASEL A THE NTOR. THE ARCHIT IN T PUBLIC WORKSROJECTS A VERY MJOR RESPSIBILITY AND NEED TO SEEHO 'REELECTING AS ARCHICT THAT' MY POINT. >>UN. LEWIS: I MOV - I NEED TO MOVE -- >> MR. PRESIDENT,US TO CLARIFY. 'S BEEN REFERRED T EC. THIS IS AUAY RESOLUTION. FOR THERPOSES, IT'S R-22-3. >>CO. BENTON: 22-39. OKAY. ARICATION TH ALL THE IN FAVOR SAY Y AND RAISE YOUR HANDS. YES. POD? THAT SSES. WE'LLOVE TO R-22-6 THAT'S COUNCILORANCHZ. >>CO. SANCHEZ: TNK OU, MR. PRIDENT. A LITTLE CONCERN ABT T 77,000 FHE I.T.ICENNG SUPPORT USING SALA SAVINGS AT THE POLICE PARTMENT. WHAT HAPPE I WE END UP GETTING TE AMOUNT OF OFFICERS WEEED TO HA AND NOW WE'RE USING THE SALARYAVINGS FOR REOCCURRIN EXPENSE WIC IS MATAINING AND UNG IT FOR I.T. PURPOSES AND WHAT IS THE ST AND WHAT'S IT FOR? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, AREOU LINGT A >>COUN. SANCHEZ: IT'S ON THE CONSENT ENDA. EC-22-66 ON MY PAPERWORK. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, I HAVE $3,167 >>COUN. SANCHEZ: ITEM 116. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, THIS IS A VERY REASON TO GVE YOU BACKGROUN WE'VE HAD THI IMBALANCE BWEEN APD PERSONNELAND OPATING BUDGET. THIS YAR WE TOOK A BIG STEP ADDRESSING TH. BECAUSE WE KNEW THEY WERE USING A LOT OF SLRY SAVING TOWARD OPERATIONS. FOR THE FISCAL YEAR 23 WE TRIED TO REALIGN THAT AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE. WHICH IS W WE TOOK $7.2 MILLION IN SALARY SAVINGS AND APPROPRIATED THAT TO OPERATIONAL SIDE. FOR THIS SPECIFIC ITEM I HAVE TO GET WITH THE DEPARTMENT TO SEE PHYSICALLY WHAT THIS IS. I WANT TO SAY THE VAST MAJORITY OF THESE YOU'RE SEEING ON THIS COULD BE ADDRESSED IN 2023 BUDGET. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, THERE SHOULDN'T BE AN ISSUE SUPPORTING ALL THESE OPERATION FUNDS. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: MR. PRESIDENT, DIRECTOR, I'D LIKE TO GET A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION ON THIS BEFORE WE PUT THIS THROUGH. IF THAT'S OKAY. I'D LIKE SEE WHAT IT'S ABOUT. WHAT THE NECESSITY ASK AND -- AND WHAT WE'RE ACCOMPLISHING FROM IT. >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. BAUKTA, I THINK YOU AND I HAVE OTHERS HAVE LOOKED AT THIS. I RAISED THIS SAME CONCERN THAT COUNCILOR SANCHEZ IS. WE TALKED ABOUT IT DURING BUDGET. IT'S SOMETHING WE'VE TRIED TO IDENTIFY THE STRUCTURAL PROBLEMS OF THE BUDGET WHERE DEPARTMENTS INFLATE THEIR VACANCY RATES TO COVER KNOWN OPERATING COST. THE TASER CONTRACT WAS ONE WE'VE KNOWN EVERY YEAR. WE FUND THAT OUT OF VACANCY SAVINGS. THAT'S WHY WE DEVELOPED THIS REPORT, WORKING TOGETHER. I HAVE TO SAY I REALIZE, AND I THINK WE'VE DONE A BETTER JOB, IS SIGNIFICANTLY BETTER IN THIS REGARD. THIS REPORT LOOKS LIKE WE'RE PHONING IT IN. THERE'S TWO PAGES OF BUDGETED AND NOT BUDGETED AND$1 MILLION FOR PROFESSIONALS, WHAT IS IS THAT? AND $257,000 FOR WEAPONS. I KNOW WE DIDN'T FORGET TO BUY A QUARTER MILLION DOLLARS OF FUNDS. I DON'T THINK THIS REPORT MEETS THE PURPOSE OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO. I REALIZE IT WAS DEVELOPED DURING THE BUDGET BEING DEVELOPED. I THINK THERE'S DETAILS THAT NEED TO BE WORKED OUT, PARTICULARLY AS WE GET TO NEXT ONE. WE'RE GETTING TO THE FIRST YEAR AND LOTS OF EXTRA DOLLARS FOR APPROPRIATION. I THINK THIS GETS TO THE DETAIL FOR ITS PURPOSE. IT LOOKS LIKE SOMEBODY WAS TRYING TO RUSH THROUGH THIS. I THINK PARTICULARLY AT APD IT STANDS OUT THAT APD DOESN'T HAVE THE DETAILS. I REALIZE IT'S BIGGER AND THERE'S THE BUDGET, BUT IT'S A GROUND FOR DRAWING ATTENTION. THAT'S A BIG PIECE OF THE BUDGET IN THE VACANCY CHALLENGE. I DON'T THINK THIS ANSWERS THAT QUESTION. I HAVE FAITH IN THE NEW BUDGET. I WOULD LIKE SEE MORE INFORMATION ABOUT SOME OF THE BIG TICKETS. I RECALL DURING THE DUJT CONVERSATION WE ASKED FOR THE FIRST REPORT ON DETAILS ABOVE $250,000. I'M NOT SURE I'VE SEEN THAT. I WANT TO REITERATE THAT WE GET THAT REQUEST. JUST TO BE SURE IT'S BEEN ADDRESSED IN THE 23 BUDGET. AND HOPEFULLY WE MOVE FORWARD. I DON'T THINK WE HAVE TO PAUSE THIS TONIGHT, BECAUSE AT THIS POINT SOME OF THESE ARE NINE MONTHS OLD AND IN THEORY WE PASSED THE BUDGET. GOING FORWARD I HOPE TO BE MORE DETAILED AT LEAST ON THE BIG TICKET ITEM. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BENTON: SO WE ARE STILL ON 22-36. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, YOU INDICATED YOU ARE NOT READY TO VOTE ON THIS TONIGHT. HAD -- IF SO, YOU SHOULD MOVE DEFER. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: I MOVE TO DEFER UNTIL WE GET MORE INFORMATION FROM THE POLICE DEPARTMENT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT WE KNOW WHAT WE'RE DOING INSTEAD OF THE SMALL AMOUNT OF INFORMATION WE HAVE ON THE REPORT. >> YOU WILL BE RECEIVING A THIRD QUART REPORT ALSO. I'LL WORK WITH THE DEPARTMENT TO (INAUDIBLE). >>COUN. BENTON: WITHIN THAT REPORT, YOU CAN ADDRESS COUNCILOR SANCHEZ'S QUESTION? >> YES, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BENTON: I'LL MOVE RECEIPT BE NOTED. >> MR. PRESIDENT, THERE WAS A MOTION FOR DEFERRAL. WE NEED -- I DIDN'T HEAR A SECOND. IF THERE IS NO SECOND -- >>COUN. BENTON: THERE WASN'T A DATE STATED. >> CORRECT. WE NEED TO CORRECT THAT MOTION TO GIVE A DATE OR TIME FRAME. JUNE 22nd WOULD BE THE NEXT MEETING OF THE COUNCIL. THE FOLLOWING WOULD BE IN AUGUST. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: MR. PRESIDENT, THAT SOUNDS FINE, WE CAN DEFER IT UNTIL THEN. >>COUN. BENTON: AUGUST. MOTION FOR AERRAL UNTIL JUNE 22nd. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES. THAT PASSES ON A 7-2. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. ONCE THE VOTE HAPPENED, THERE WOULD HAVE BEEN A SECOND. WE'LL NOTE COUNCILOR LEWIS ON THE SECOND. >>COUN. BENTON: LET'S MOVE TO ANNOUNCEMENTS. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: MR. PRESIDENT, THERE'S AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATION -- LEGISLATIVE RELATIONS COMMITTEE MEETING ON MONDAY JUNE 13th AT 1 P.M. VIA ZOOM. >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. PRESIDENT, THERE WILL BE A FINANCE AND GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS COMMITTEEING ON MONDAY JUNE 13th AT 5 P.M. ON THE NINTH FLOOR. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THERE A PUBLIC SAFETY MEETING ON TUESDAY JUNE 14th IN THE COUNCIL COMMITTEE ROOM ON THE NINTH FLOOR. >>COUN. JONES: THERE WILL BE A LAND USE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE MEETING ON WEDNESDAY JUNE 15th IN THE COUNCIL COMMITTEE ROOM ON THE NINTH FLOOR. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'LL MOVE TO APPROVALS. STARTING WITH THE ONEITEM. APPROVAL OF UNALICATED EMERGENCY SOLUTIONS GRANT AND MATCH AND ENTITLEMENT FUND. LISTED IN THE SECOND AND THIRD HUD ACTION PLAN. I MOVE APPROVAL. SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. THANK YOU. ANY DISCUSSION? OR QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR EC93. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'LL MOVE TO FINAL ACTION. COUNCILORS, AND PUBLIC, I HAVE REORDERED THE AGENDA FROM THE PUBLISHED ORDER SOMEWHAT BECAUSE WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF BILLS THAT INVOLVE NUMEROUS DEPARTMENTS WHERE WE HAVE DEPARTMENT LEADERSHIP WAITING TO ANSWER THOSE QUESTIONS. WE'RE GOING TO START WITH THOSE. THEN WE ALSO HAVE THE IDO AND RELATED QUESTIONS THERE. SO, JUGGLED IT A LITTLE BIT. WE'RE GOING TO START WITH ITEMS LABELLED F AND G. AND THE FIRST OF THOSE IS COUNCILOR BASSAN, COUNCILOR LEWIS, AND MYSELF. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, O-25 IS AUTHORIZING THE ISSUANCE AND SALE OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE GROSS RECEIPTS TAX BONDS IN ONE OR MORE SERIOUS PRINCIPLE AMOUNT NOT TO EXCEED $100 MILLION. I MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. BENTON: MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. LEWIS: I MOVE INFLOOR SUBSTITUTE TO O-25. >>COUN. BENTON: I'LL SECOND THAT. THAT'S THE FLOOR SUBSTITUTE IN OUR SMIED -- iPADS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE FLOOR SUBSTITUTE RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. ALL THOSE OPPOSED? THE FLOOR SUBSTITUTE PASSES. AND WE'LL CONTINUE FROM THERE. I THINK WE HAVE PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. UNLESS COUNCILORS WANT -- BEFORE WE GET GOING WITH THE PUBLIC COMMENT. COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. IF MR. MELENDREZ CAN CLARIFY, I'VE GOT QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, YES THE BILL WAS AMENDED AT THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. AND THAT RESULTED IN THE ADDITION OF THE $10 MILLION TO $100 MILLION THAT IS IN THE ORDINANCE AND ALSO AMENDED IN THE APPROPRIATIONS AND INCLUDED THERE. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'LL MOVE TO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. WE'LL HAVE FRANCHESCO FOLLOWED MY MATTHEW. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILORS, I'M IN STRONG SUPPORT OF AMENDING IT ROUTE 6 RESCUE PLAN TO REFURBISH THE LONG ABANDONED HOE TELLS. CONVERTING THEM INTO AFFORDABLE SPACES FOR THE NEIGHBORS. IF SOME OF THESE FUNDS ARE NOT ALREADY SPOKEN FOR LET'S GIVE THESE ABANDONENED PROPERTIES A WONDERFULLY NEW DESPERATELY NEEDED PURPOSE. >> NEXT SPEEKTER ? >> NEXT SPEAKER IS MATTHEW. >> GOOD EVENING, I REPRESENT THE CARPENTERS UNITED STATESIAN THESE WILL CREATE OPPORTUNITIES FOR HIRING AND TRAINING IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. THANK YOU. >> THAT WILL CONCLUDE PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. THIS WAS FAIRLY THOROUGHLY DISCUSSED AT THE COMMITTEE OF THE WHOLE. DO WE HAVE ANY COMMENTS OR QUESTIONS RIGHT NOW? I WANT TO THANK MY CO-SPONSORS. THEY'RE A PRETTY GOOD GROUP WORKING TOGETHER ON THIS AND IT REFLECTS THE PRIORITIES OF THE CITY. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, WE DO HAVE A MOTION AND A DUE PASS FOR THE SUBSTITUTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I WANT TO GIVE A SINCERE THANK YOU TO THE FULL COUNCIL FOR FINALLY GETTING THROUGH THIS AND MAKING IT WORK FOR NOT ONLY THE COUNCIL BUT ALL DISTRICTEDS -- DISTRICTS IN ALBUQUERQUE. THE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO BE VERY EXCITED. THANK YOU FOR COLLABORATING AND COOPERATING ON THIS. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. WE'LL MOVE TO THE ACOMPANYING RESOLUTION SUBSTITUTE R-22-34. THIS IS AMENDING THE CAPITAL IMPLEMENTATION PROGRAM WITH THE CITY BY APPROVING NEW PROJECTS WITH THE PROCEEDS OF ALBUQUERQUE GROSS RECEIPTS TAX REVENUE BOND. I MOVE A DUE PASS. AND THERE'S A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR LEWIS. IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS? >> YES. MR. PRESIDENT. WE HAVE RACHEL BIGGS. >> I'M WITH ALBUQUERQUE HEALTH CARE FOR THE HOMELESS. I JUST WANTED TO SIGN UP TO SPEAK IN SUPPORT OF THE $20 MILLION FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THANK YOU FOR RECOGNIZING THE NEED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE COMMUNITY. WE'RE EXCITED TO SEE THIS AS A PRIORITY FOR THE BOND MONEY. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU FOR EVERYTHING YOU DO FOR THE MELT OF YOUR COMMUNITY. IS THAT IT? OKAY. COUNCILORS, WE'RE BACK ON THE RESOLUTION. COUNCILOR LEWIS TO CLOSE. >>COUN. LEWIS: I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT. WE'RE BACK ON R-22-34. MOTION AND A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'LL MOVE TO, AGAIN, THE FIRST ITEM THAT WAS ALREADY IN OUR AGENDA ITEM A. COUNCILOR DAVIS, AND COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. PRESIDENT, ITEM A IS COMMITTEE SUBAMENDING THE ALBUQUERQUE HUMAN RIGHTS ORDINANCE TO PROHIBIT DISCRIMINATION BASED ON INCOME. I WOULD MOVE A DUE PASS. >>COUN. BENTON: MOTION AND A SECOND FOR A DUE PASS. AND WE DO HAVE AN AMENDMENT IN THE iPADS. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I'M PULLING IT UP. THANK YOU, I'D LIKE TO MOVE AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. THIS ONE IS TECHNICAL AMENDMENT. ON PAGE 10 LINE 17 AMEND AS FOLLOWS. SECTION 8 CAMPILATION, SECTION ONE, TWO, THREE, AND FOUR AND SO ON. IT ORIGINALLY READ SKWN -- AND TWO. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND FROM COUNCILOR DAVIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL. IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? I'M SORRY. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ WAS OPPOSED. I MISSED THAT. 8-1. ARE THERE FOLKS SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. FIRST SPEAKER IS RACHEL, FOLLOWED BY EVELYN. PH >> GOOD EVENING, CITY COUNCIL, THE FALL OUT FROM COVID EXACERBATED OUR HOUSING CRISIS. THESE ARE TOOLS HELPING OUR FAMILY STAY AFLOAT. HOWEVER, ALBUQUERQUE DOES NOT DIRECT AGAINST HOUSING DISCRIMINATION BASED ON A PERSON'S SOURCE OF INCOME. IT SHOUTS OUT VULNERABLE COMMUNITY MEMBERS FROM HOUSING DISPLACEMENT AND CREATES POVERTY. THE LACK OF INCOME PROTECTION HAS ADVERSE IMPACT ON SOME OF THE MOST VULNERABLE POPULATIONS INCLUDING ELDERLY, PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES, DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SURVIVORS, FAMILIES AND CHILDREN AND ETHNIC AND RACIAL AND VETERANS. OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS SHOULD NOT ENDURE HARDSHIP AND DISCRIMINATION BECAUSE THEY'RE USING SUBSIDY. ENDING DISCRIMINATION BASED ON SOURCE OF INCOME ALLOWS ALBUQUERQUE TO LEVERAGE FEDERAL DOLLARS INTO THE COMMUNITY. IN 2020 FEDERAL RENTAL ASSISTANCE PROGRAMS PROVIDED NEW MEXICO WITH $168 MILLION. THESE FUNDS HELP LANDLORDS PAY PROPERTY TAXES, MAKE UPIDATES TO UNITS, AND IMPROVE QUALITY OF HOUSING STOCK. WE HAVE DATA TO SHOW THE POSITIVE IMPACT OF THIS TYPE OF LEGISLATION. A 2011 STUDY SAID THESE INCREASE VOUCHER UTILIZEERATION RATES. THIGH FOUND THEY OWED LESS BACK RENT. AND IT HELPS LANDLORDS AND TENANTS. POLICY CHANGES AND INCREASING SUPPLY OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING GO AND HAND AND HAND. THIS ORDINANCE IS THE NECESSARY NEXT STEP TO ENSURE WE'RE ABLE TO UTILIZE THE FUNDS AND NOT LEAVE VALUABLE RESOURCES UNSPENT. >> EVELYN FOLLOWED BY ALAN. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I HAVE -- MS. BIGGS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR COMMENT ABOUT THE VOUCHERS. THERE IS ONE PROBLEM WITH THE VOUCHER SYSTEM I BELIEVE THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE NEEDS TO TAKE A LOOK AT. ONE OF THE REASONS THE LANDLORD CONTACTED ME, AND THAT IS A FACT THEY'RE REQUIRED -- IT IS A LONG PROCESS FROM THE TIME THEY ACCEPT A TENANT TO THE PROCESS FOR THE CITY TO START PAYING THEM RENT. ANY NUMBER OF THESE LANDLORDS ARE SMALL FAMILY-OWNED, MOP AND POP, OR DUPLEX OR WHATEVER THEY CHOOSE TO RENT. WHEN THE CITY IS NOT CAPABLE OF PAYING THE FIRST THROUGH THE THIRD MONTHS OR MAYBE EVEN UP TO THE FOURTH MONTH WITHOUT REQUIREMENTS THAT THE CITY PUTS IN PLACE FOR THE CITY'S PAPERWORK OR WHATEVER, THESE PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE TO KEEP PAYING UTILITIES, TAXES, MAINTENANCE, ALL THE THINGS DUE ON A PROPERTY, BUT THEY'RE NOT RECEIVING RENT FROM THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE BECAUSE OF THE VOUCHER ISSUE. I WOULD LIKE FOR YOU TO TELL ME WHAT THE CITY PLANS TO DO IF WE'RE IN NEED OF MORE HOUSING YET WE'RE MAKING IT ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE FOR THE SMALLER PROPERTY OWNERS, OWNERS OF SMALL PROPERTIERS TO DO THIS. DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEAS ON THAT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, AND COUNCILOR JONES, I PERHAPS AM NOT THE BEST PERSON TO ANSWER ON BEHALF OF THE CITY. I CAN TELL YOU FROM OUR EXPERIENCE AT ALBUQUERQUE HEALTH CARE FOR THE HOMELESS, WHEN WE ISSUE A VOUCHER THE INSPECTION HAPPENS WITHIN A FEW DAYS. AND THE RENT IS PAID. I KNOW IN SOME CASES AN INSPECTION CAN TAKE LONGER THAN A FEW DAYS. THERE HAVE BEEN EFFORTS TO INCLUDE THAT IN THE AMENDMENTS TO THE LEGISLATION SO AN INSPECTION WOULD HAVE TO WHAIN FIVE DAYS. I BELIEVE THOSE ARE THE BULK OF THE DISAGREEMENTS WE'VE HEARD IN TERMS OF TAKING LONG TIME FOR RENTED TO GET PAID BECAUSE THE RENT CANNOT GET PAID UNTIL INSPECTION. I KNOW CITY COUNCIL STAFF WILL HAVE A PRESENTATION TO DETAIL SOME OF THE PROCESSES. I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF GRET GREAT FIXES. AND IT SOLVES THE ISSUES WE'RE LOOKING TO SOLVE WHICH IS GETTING OUR COMMUNITY MEMBERS IN HOUSING QUICKER. >>COUN. JONES: IF WHERE MAY, THESE PROPERTY OWNERS WOULD LIKE TO RENT THEIR PROPERTY BUT THEY WOULD LIKE TO GET PAID IN A TIMELY MANNER. THANK YOU. IF THE CITY WILL TAKE A LOOK ON THAT, I'D LIKE TO SEE A REPORT ON THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. PRESIDENT, I THINK THIS IS AN EXCELLENT POINT. AND COUNCILOR JONES, I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT. THERE'S A PRESENTITION COMING UP ABOUT WHAT IT DOES AND DOESN'T DO AND WE'VE INCORPORATED THAT INPUT FROM THE COMMUNITY. I THINK IT'S AN EXCELLENT OPPORTUNITY AND I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING IT UP. SO THERE'S A CHANCE TO TALK ABOUT HOW THIS PROGRAM DIFFERS FROM THE HORRIBLE EXPERIENCES THEY HAVE GONE THROUGH. >>COUN. BENTON: THANKS. NEXT SPEAKER. [ INAUDIBLE ]. >> OF MY SHARE OF THE RENT. AND THE REST WILL BE COVERED BY THE VOUCHER. WHY WOULD SOMEBODY ASK ME WHAT MY INCOME IS, WHEN IN FACT, 30% WOULD BE ONE THIRD OF THE MONEY THEY'RE GETTING. THAT SHOWS THEY'RE GOING TO GET THREE TIMES THAT. EQUALLING THE FULL AMOUNT OF THE RENT THEY'RE ASKING. BECAUSE WHEN THEY ASK THAT QUESTION, THAT'S THE FIRST QUESTION THAT SHUTS ME OUT OF THE APPLICATION PROCESS. I WANTED YOU TO BE AWARE OF THE FIRST STEP TOWARD THE DISCRIMINATION I FACED IN APPLYING FOR DIFFERENT APARTMENTS, AND THAT WOULD BE MY MAIN QUESTION TO ADDRESS TO YOU AND ALSO THE LACK OF SUFFICIENT HOUSING. I REALLY HAD TO GO THROUGH SOME STUFF BEFORE I COULD FIND A DECENT PLACE TO LIVE. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. >> ALAN, FOLLOWED BY CHARLES. >> MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I'M THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE APARTMENT ASSOCIATION. WE REPRESENT ABOUT 65,000 RENTAL UNITS ACROSS NEW MEXICO. WE'RE THANKFUL TO BE PART OF THIS CONVERSATION AND I WANT TO THANK ALL OF YOU THAT TOOK TIME TO MEET WITH US AND SPEAK WITH US ABOUT THIS. WE HAVE MANY CONCERNS WITH THIS BILL. I BELIEVE THERE'S MANY UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES ABOUT. THIS DOES CREATE A NEW CLASS OF DISCRIMINATION THAT IS NOT IN STATE OR FEDERAL LAW. ONE THING I DON'T THINK WE'VE TALKED ABOUT ENOUGH IS ALL OF THE CONVERSATION AROUND THIS BILL HAS BEEN ABOUT SECTION EIGHT VOUCHER PROGRAM. THIS BILL, AS ITS WRITTEN, I'D LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT AND READ A FEW QUOTES. THIS BILL INCLUDES, ANY OTHER FORM OF HOUSING ASSISTANCE PAYMENT OR CREDIT. AND IT SAYS IT'S DISCRIMEINATORY TO NOT GO WITH ANY PROGRAM PROVIDING SOURCE OF INCOME. THERE'S NO LIMITS ON THE NUMBER OR TYPES OF PROGRAMS OR THE REQUIREMENTS THAT CAN BE PLACED UPON AN OWNER. WE HAVE MANY PROGRAMS IN ALBUQUERQUE THAT SPECIALIZE IN HOUSING HOMELESS, OR HOUSING PEOPLE WITH MENTAL ILLNESS OR RECOVERING SUBSTANCE ABUSERS, AND THEY DO A GREAT JOB OF THAT. THE WAY THIS BILL IS WRITTEN, THAT WOULD BE PLACED ON OWNERS OF THE CITY. THEY WOULD HAVE TO PROVIDE SOCIAL OR BEHAVIORAL SERVICES OR MEALS. THE LIST IS ENDLESS. MOST ENERS ARE NOT ABLE TO OPERATE UNDER THESE CIRCUMSTANCES. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> CHARLES FOLLOWED BY GENE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, INTRODUCE MYSELF EARLIER. THERE'S A LOT OF GOOD QUESTIONS THAT ARE COMING ABOUT. WE LOOK AT THIS AND IT SAYS WE'RE ASKING FOR VOUCHER. WE HAVE 450 PEOPLE, AND I THINK COUNCILOR DAVIS YOU AND I TALKED ABOUT THIS AT LENGTH, WHEN WE PUT PEOPLE IN OUR PROPERTY AND WOW DON'T HAVE ANY EXTRA INCOME TO BUY FOOD, TO GET TO GO TO TH MARKET, TO GO TO THE HOSPITAL, IT BECOMES A DIFFICULTY ON THE WHOLE COMMUNITY THEY'RE LIVING IN. BECAUSE THEY VISIT EVERYBODY ELSE AND KNOCK ON DOORS AND ASK FOR THINGS. AND THEY TURN TO SOMETIMES SOCIAL THINGS THEY SHOULDN'T BE DOING IN ORDER TO HAVE ENOUGH MONEY IN THEIR POCKET TO LIVE. THAT'S A DIFFICULTY. I'VE LOOKED AT THIS FOR THE LAST TEN YEARS AS TO HOW WE HELP PEOPLE HAVE MONEY IN THEIR POCKET TO DO THIS. I'VE INDICATED WE NEED TO HAVE $400 EXTRA OVER THE RENT TO MAKE IT WORK. THIS IS A FACT. I'VE SEEN THE FAILURES, OVER AND OVER AGAIN. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING THAT I DON'T CARE ABOUT. I CARE DEEPLY ABOUT THIS. WE HAVE MORE IN THERE THAT WE SUPPORT THAN ANYONE ELSE. THIS IS SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT HOW WE HANDLE. AND TO FORCE THAT DOWN WITHOUT THINKING ABOUT THAT IS A FAILURE. >> GENE, FOLLOWED BY STEVE. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, THANKS FOR HAVING US COMMENT ON IT. I'M GENE, I'M LONGTIME REAL ESTATE ATTORNEY. THE ASSOCIATION THAT ALAN IS [ INAUDIBLE ]. WE ARE MAKING OURSELVES AVAILABLE AND STILL MAKE OURSELVES AVAILABLE TO TALK WITH THE COUNCIL ON HOW WE CAN SOLVE SOME OF THE ISSUES. THERE ARE STILL A LOT OF ISSUES. AND ALAN TALKS ABOUT ONE OF THEM. IT'S NOT LIMITED TO SECTION EIGHT. IT'S ANY ASSISTANCE. THAT'S WHAT IT SAYS. MAYBE THAT WASN'T INTENDED. I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND >> IT'S A CHALLENGING SITUATION IN 20212. WE DESIRE TO HOUSE AS MANY TENANTS AS POSSIBLE AND MAKE IT REASONABLE FOR BOTH US AND THE TENANT. I'M REACHING OUT IN REGARD TO THE HIGHLIGHTS OF THIS BILL. MYSELF AND OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS HAVE A HUGE CONCERN SURROUNDING THESE PROPOSED CHANGES. THERE ARE MANY UNINTENDNED CONSEQUENCES TO THIS ORDINANCE. FIRST AND FOREMOST A VERSION OF THIS WAS PROPOSED BY THE LEGISLATURE BACK IN LAST YEAR. AND IT WAS NOT APPROVED. IF YOU DECIDE TO VOTE YES, YOU'LL FORCE MYSELF AND THOUSANDS OF SMALL OTHER PROPERTY OWNERS HERE TO ACCEPT ALL VOUCHERS, AND ALL PROGRAMS. THIS BILL HAS NO LIMITS TO REGULATIONS. THE CURRENT PROCESS FOR THE VOUCHER PROGRAM IS VOLUNTARY. THIS MAKES IT MANDATORY. LAST, BUT NOT LEAST, WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF A HOUSING SHORTAGE, IT'SINACY -- NECESSARY THAT WE NEED TO BE AWARE OF THE HOUSING PEOPLE THAT NEED HOUSING IN THIS MARKET. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> TONY, FOLLOWED BY BOBBY. >> BOBBY, FOLLOWED BY MARIA. >> THANK YOU, I'M BOBBY. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I WANT TO LET YOU KNOW THAT MY COMPANY HAS BEEN IN BUSINESS SINCE 1985. WE'RE A LARGE PROVIDER OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING IN THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO. I THINK WE'RE ONE OF THE LARGEST. WE ACCEPT VOUCHERS. WE LOVE VOUCHERS, BUT WE STRONSLY OPPOSE THIS BILL. THE REASON IS WE'RE PUTTING THE BURDEN ON SMALL OPERATORS WHO ARE NOT PART OF THE SYSTEM AND DO NOT UNDERSTAND. WE KNOW HOW TO DO THE PAPERWORK. WE KNOW THE 12-PAGE CONTRACT WITH HOUSING AUTHORITY. WE KNOW THAT WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE TWO OR THREE MONTHS BEFORE WE GET OUR FIRST PAYMENT. THAT'S A WAY OF LIFE FOR US. THAT'S A WAY WE CHOSE. TO FORCE THIS ON OTHER SMALL RENTAL PROPERTY OWNERS, I THINK IS UNJUST AND UNFAIR. WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS WE FIND A SOLUTION. WE'RE AT A MEETING ABOUT A MONTH AGO WITH THE CITY, COUNCILORS, AND OTHERS. WE TALKED WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY. WE RECOGNIZE THERE'S SOME BAD COMMUNICATION OF WHAT IS NEEDED. THE HOUSING AUTHORITIES DO NOT HAVE A GOOD LIST OF THE OPERATORS THAT DO ACCEPT VOUCHERS. THEY DO NOT HAVE THE MEANS. WE PROPOSE THE DEPARTMENT ASSOCIATION OF NEW MEXICO FORM A COALITION, IF YOU WILL, WITH THE HOUSING AUTHORITY SO THERE CAN BE SOME GOOD COMMUNICATION. THERE WAS ABOUT 145 PEOPLE LOOKING FOR HOUSING AND WE HAD OVER 200 VACANCIES. THERE'S A SOLUTION. WE'RE NOT AGAINST HOUSING VOUCHERS, WE'RE AGAINST FORCING IT ON LANDLORDS. >> MARIA, FOLLOWED BY DENIS MEP. >> GOOD EVENING, I'M A SUPERVISING ATTORNEY AND DIRECTOR OF ECONOMIC OF NEW MEXICO CENTER OF LAW AND POVERTY. I THANK YOU FOR BRINGING THIS ORDINANCE. NEW MEXICO HAS BEEN IN A HOUSING CRISIS FOR YEARS. WE HAD THE BIGGEST INCREASE OF HOMELESSNESS IN 2018 AND 2019. THE PANDEMIC EXACERBATED THIS TRAGIC SITUATION. AND WITH INCREASED HOMELESSNESS IT BUTS -- PUTS A GREATER BURDEN ON THE CITY. THIS LEGISLATION PROHIBITING SOURCE OF INCOME DISCRIMINATION IS THE FIRST STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. VOUCHERS ARE A RELIABLE SOURCE OF INCOME. AS A PERSPECTIVE, I COULD LOSE MY JOB TOMORROW, AND NOT PAY RENT. BUT WITH A VOUCHER THAT GUARANTEES I CAN PAY RENT. THE VOUCHER ENSURES THEY'RE NOT PAYING MORE THAN 30% OF INCOME SO THEY DO HAVE EXPENDABLE DOLLARS TO -- THAT WOULD JUST -- SORRY, THEY HAVE THE EXPEND DOLLARS ON HAND THAT ADDRESSES MR. SHELLEDEN'S CONCERNS. THE ISSUE RAISED BY MR. GRANT, THIS LEGISLATION WAS NOT CONSIDERED BY THE LEGISLATURE LAST YEAR. THERE'S A CONCESSION MADE TO GET THE BILL PASSED. THIS WAS NOT PART OF THE BILL. THANK YOU. >> DENISE, FOLLOWED BY ALEXANDER. ALEXANDER, FOLLOWED BY ELIZABETH. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, MEMBERS OF COUNCIL, I'M ALEX. I'M A STAFF ATTORNEY AT THE SENIOR ASSISTANCE LAW OFFICE IN ALBUQUERQUE. SUBSTANTIAL PORTION OF MY CLIENTS, ALL OF MY CLIENTS ARE 60 YEARS OR OLDER. WE PROVIDE SERVICES TO THEM. MANY OFTHEM ARE RECIPIENTS OF SSI. THEY'RE VERY LOW INCOME OLDER ADULTS. MANY ARE ON SECTION EIGHT. THESE AREN'T NECESSARILY THE ISSUE THAT BRING THEM INTO THE OFFICE. THEY ARE CONTINUALLY UNDER PRESSURE TO LIVE IN SUBSTANDARD APARTMENTS. THEY'RE AFRAID TO LIVE FROM THEIR HOMES. IF THEY LEAVE THEIR CURRENT HOUSING SITUATION, THERE WILL BE VERY GREAT CHANCE THEY'LL BE HOMELESS. THEY'LL END UP IN THE TENT CITIES. THEY HAVE NOWHERE TO BE. AND THEIR INCOME IS MINIMAL. AND LANDLORDS CAN SAY THE INCOME YOU HAVE, IF YOU ONLY HAVE TO PAY A THIRD, AND YOU HAVE $900 TO LIVE OFF OF. I HAVE CLIENTS WHO ARE BEING ECONVICTED FOR ARBITRARY REASONS BECAUSE THEIR LANDLORDS THEY KNOW THEY CAN GET HIGHER RENTS AND THEY HAVE SECTION EIGHT VOUCHERS AND NOWHERE TO MOVE. >> ELIZABETH, FOLLOWED BY RICK. >> GOOD EVENING, THANKS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE COMMENTS. I'M AN ASSISTANT PROFESSOR AT THE UNM SCHOOL OF LAW. I'M SPEAKING IN MY PERSONAL CAPACITY TO SUPPORT O-22-16. MORE THAN 100 LOCALITIES HAVE PASSED THE LAWS LIKE YOU'RE CONSIDERING TODAY. I HOPE ALBUQUERQUE JOINS IN THIS TREND. IT'S A WIN, WIN, WIN PROPOSITION. LANDLORDS GET STABLE AND RELIABLE RENT PAYMENTS. THE CITY IS ABLE TO EFFICIENTLY USE ALL OF THE FEDERAL HOUSING SUBSIDIES PROVIDED TO IT. AND LOW INCOME RESIDENTS ARE ABLE TO FIND SECURE HOUSING WITH LESS RISK OF EVICTION AND HOMELESSNESS. I WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO AMEND THE PROPOSED LANGUAGE TO MAKE SURE THAT THE MINIMUM INCOME REQUIREMENT DEFINITION ONLY TAKES INTO CONSIDERATION THE PORTION OF RENT THAT A TENANT WOULD PAY OUT OF THE THEIR OWN FUNDS, NOT THE AMOUNT COVERED BY A VOUCHER IN ORDER TO MAKE THIS PROVISION A STRONG PROTECTION AS IT NEEDS TO BE. FOR THE REST OF MY TIME I WANT TO FOCUS ON WHAT THIS DOES NOT DO. FIRST, THIS AMENDMENT DOES NOT PREVENT LANDLORD FROM SCREENING POTENTIAL TENANTS. A LANDLORD CAN DECLINE AN APPLICANT IF THEY HAVE A BAD RENTAL HISTORY OR LEGITIMATE REASONS. BUT NOT SIMPLY BECAUSE THE APPLICANT WILL PAY RENT WITH A HOUSING VOUCHER. IT DOES NOT REQUIRE TO CHARGE A SPECIFIC AMOUNT OF RENT. LONNED LORDS HAVE THE FREEDOM TO SET THEIR OWN RENT. >> THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER IS RICH. FOLLOWED BY OLIVIA. >> I'M RICHARD, THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT, CITY COUNCIL. I WAS A FAIR HOUSING ATTORNEY IN THE EARLY 2000s. I'VE BEEN INVOLVED IN VARIOUS TYPES OF HOUSING LAW EVER SINCE. WORKING WITH LEGAL SERVICES ORGANIZATIONS. AND I CAN ATTEST TO THE FACT THAT MANY, MANY, MANY PEOPLE WITH SECTION EIGHT VOUCHERS FOR A TREMENDOUSLY DIFFICULT TIME FINDING HOUSING. I WANT TO ECHO WHAT ELIZABETH SAID. ALSO, THE SAME THING THAT THIS DOES WITH SOURCE OF INCOME IS THE SAME THING IT DOES WITH RACE, NATIONAL ORIGIN, DISABILITY, NAMELY THAT LANDLORD DOES NOT HAVE TO TAKE ANYBODY COMING IN WITH A HOUSING VOUCHER, THEY'RE PROHIBITED FROM USING THE FACT THAT THEY GET A VOUCHER FROM REJECTING THAT POTENTIAL TENANT. JUST LIKE IT IS WITH RACE, AND -- NATIONAL ORIGIN. IT'S NOT TRUE IT'S A MANDATORY REQUIREMENT FOR LANDLORDS TO TAKE ANYBODY WITH A VOUCHER. THANK YOU. >> LIVIA, FOLLOWED BY -- >> GOOD EVENING, MR. PRESIDENT. I'M WITH NEW MEXICO VOICES FOR CHILDREN. I'M HERE IN SUPPORT OF THE ORDINANCE TO PROHIBIT DISCRIMINATION BASED ON SOURCE OF INCOME. I'M ALSO A RESIDENT OF NORTHEAST HEIGHTS IN ALBUQUERQUE WITHIN COUNCILOR JONES'S DISTRICT. AND I FIRST WANT TO THANK COUNCILOR BASSAN, AND COUNCILOR DAVIS FOR CO-SPONSORING THIS BILL. EVERY FAMILY IN ALBUQUERQUE DESERVES TO KNOW THE SECURITY OF STABLE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING. ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE THINGS THAT RESULT IN -- HOWEVER FAMILIES THAT RELY ON HOUSING VOUCHERS ARE DISCRIMINATED AGAINST. MAKING IT DIFFICULT FOR THEM TO ACCESS STABLE, AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND BENEFITS THAT COME WITH IT. THIS HURTS OUR COMMUNITY AS A WHOLE, GIVEN THAT THE MAJORITY OF PEOPLE ON HOUSING VOUCHERS ARE FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN, SENIORS, AND PEOPLE WITH DISABILITIES. THIS ORDINANCE ALSO BENEFITS THE OVERALL ECONOMY OF OUR CITY. SINCE VOUCHERS UTILIZATION MAKES SURE PEOPLE DON'T PAY MORE THAN 30% OF INCOME ON RENT. FREEING UP EXTRA INCOME FOR THEM TO SPEND WITHIN OUR CITY'S ECONOMY. THIS ORDINANCE IS CRITICAL TO ENSURE THE FAMILIES ARE NOT UNFAIRLY BARRED FROM THE HOUSING THEY NEED AND THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO PAY FOR IT. IN ADDITION, THROUGH THIS ORDINANCE LANDLORDS ARE ABLE TO CHOOSE THEIR TENANTS, CONDUCT BACKGROUND CHECKS , RECEIVE SECURITY DEPOSITS AND RENTAL PAYMENTS. GIVEN THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS ORDINANCE AND REDUCING HOUSING -- >> YOUR TIME SUP. >> THANK YOU. >> HI, I'M DOU G. I'M WITH THE FACULTY OF THE NEW MEXICO SCHOOL OF LAW. I WRITE, AND TEACH HOUSING LAW. I AM HERE TO SUPPORT THE PROHIBITION ON INCOME DISCRIMINATION. THANK YOU TO COUNCILOR BASSAN AND COUNCILOR DAVIS FOR SPONSORING THIS. THE CONCENTRATION OF POVERTY. HELPS PEOPLE HAVE CONTROLOVER OVER >> WHILE ENSURING THE OWNER GETS A STEADY CHECK. THAT WILL GO UP. THIS CHANGE REMOVES AN OBSTACLE THAT VOUCHER HOLDERS FACE IN THEIR PURSUIT OF SAFE, HEALTHY HOUSING. THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH ALBUQUERQUE'S HISTORY WORKING TOWARD EQUITY AND ACCESS OPPORTUNITY. ALBUQUERQUE HAS ALREADY IDENTIFIED SEVERAL RESOURCES. WE NO LONGER ALLOW LANDLORDS TO DENY BASED ON THESE REASONS. WE HAVE A LONG HISTORY OF LAWS -- THE CITY CAN EXTEND PROTECTIONS TO ANOTHER GROUP THAT IS EXCLUDED TO ACCESS TO PARTICULAR HOUSING. ACCESS TO SAFE HEALTHY HOUSING. SEFT DETERMINATION. DECONCENTRATION OF POVERTY. EQUAL ACCESS TO ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY. FAIR HOUSING MEANS ACCESS TO HOUSING. THIS LAW MAKES IT A RELALITY FOR RESIDENTS. THANK YOU. >> ANDREW. >> HELLO, I'M A SMALL PRIVATE LANDLORD WITH A HANDFUL OF PROPERTIES. I HAVE RENTED AND DO RENT FOR SECTION EIGHT VOUCHERS. I SUPPORT THE PROGRAM. IT'S A GREAT PROGRAM. THIS PROPOSED LEGISLATION IS NOT EFFECTIVE. IT WILL INCLUDE MORE RISK. WHAT IS NOT TALKED ABOUT IS THE ADDITIONAL BURDEN THAT THE LANDLORD TAKES ON BY TAKING A SUBSIDIZED TENANT. IN THE EVERYTHING IS LANDLORD HAS TO FOLLOW ALL THE PROCESSES INCLUDING POSSIBLY PROVIDING MEALS, VERY RIVERINGY FOR -- RISKY. I URGE YOU TO VOTE NO. IMAGINE IF YOU HAD A CAR YOU WERE RENTING. AND IF YOU RENT IT FOR SOMEONE, YOU ALSO HAVE TO COVER THE GAS. YOU HAVE TO TEACH THEM HOW TO DRIVE AND COVER INSURANCE. YOU WANT THOSE EXTRA COSTS COVERED. IF YOU WANT TO MAKE AN IMPACT ON AVAILABILITY REMOVE SOME OF THE RISKS THAT THE LANDLORD HAS. COVER THE DAMAGES THESE TENANTS MAY CAUSE. YES, THE RENT IS COVERED BY A THIRD OF THE INCOME, BUT IF THEY HAVE DAMAGES THAT THEY CAUSE, THEY DON'T HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY FOR THOSE. WHEN I MAKE A SDAGZ DECISION, LOOK AT THE RISK FACTORS. I HAVE SECTION EIGHT TENANTS. I STARTED WITH NOTHING, BUILT MY PROPERTIES, AND I DON'T WANT TO RISK THEM WITH THIS. PLEASE CONSIDER THE FACTORS. >> CONNIE. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, CLRZ. COUNCILORS. THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK IN FAVOR OF THE >> I AM THE FORMER EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF COMMUNITY LAND TRUST, FORMER EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE BARRETT FOUNDATION AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE TINGLY HOSPITAL FOUNDATION. I'M HERE TONIGHT SERVING IN MY PERSONAL CAPACITY. IN ALL THREE ORGANIZATIONS A COMMON THEME IS ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING, THE POPULATION SERVED IS THE WORKFORCE. AT BARRETT THE POPULATION IS HOMELESS WOMEN, CHILDREN AND FAMILIES WITH VERY LOW INCOMES. OUR CLIENT AND FAMILIES WHO HAVE DISABILITY AND MANY ARE LOW TO MODERATE INCOME. ALL THIS TO DEMMEN TRAIT IT'S NOT ONE SEGMENT TO STRUGGLE FOR ACCESS OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THE HOUSING APPLICANT MUST SHOW THEY EARN TWO TO THREE TIMES TO GET THE RENTAL UNIT. PUBLIC BENEFITS AND/OR SOCIAL SECURITY. THIS IS A BARRIER FOR MANY AS SOME HAVE LITTLE TO NO INCOME WHILE OTHERS LIVE ON SOCIAL SECURITY. THE PROPOSED CHANGE REMOVES THIS BARRIER ALLOWING FOR INDIVIDUALS TO BE HOUSED IN DECENT AFFORDABLE HOUSING UNITS. WE WILL HAVE -- THEY'RE EXCITED TO RECEIVE A HOUSING VOUCHER, THE SEARCH FOR UNIT IS DAUNTING. THEY DID NOT MEET THE INCOME REQUIREMENT FOR LEASING MULTIPLE COMPLEXES. >> YOUR TIME SUP. THANK YOU. >> THAT WILL CONCLUDE PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: I HAVE TWO COMMENTS. I ALSO HAVE ANOTHER AMENDMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: [ INAUDIBLE ]. >>COUN. BASSAN: I LIKE TO MOVE AMENDMENT NUMBER TWO. ON PAGE SEVEN LINE 33. IN DETERMINING WHETHER THE TENANT AMONG INCOME REQUIREMENTS INCLUDE IN THE CALCULATION OF RENT IN THE AMOUNT OF ATTRIBUTED BY THE TENANT [ INAUDIBLE ]. THE CALCULATION OF MINIMUM INCOME REQUIREMENT SHALL BE BASED OF RENT RESPONSIBLE TO BE PAID. THE REASON FOR THIS IS THERE'S MANY PUBLIC COMMENTS THAT COME IN ABOUT THIS. AT THE SAME TIME, IT'S TO SAY TO RELIEVE SOME OF THE CONCERNS THAT WE'VE ALREADY HEARD THAT IF SOMEBODY CAN'T AFFORD A THOUSAND DOLLAR RENT CHECK, THEN THE 30% OR THE THREE TIMES FOR THE DEPOSIT WOULD BE BASED OFF OF 300 TIMES THREE. RATHER THAN A THOUSAND DOLLARS TIMES THREE. I'LL MAKE A MOTION FOR THAT. >>COUN. BENTON: SECOND FROM COUNCILOR DAVIS. DISCUSSION ON THIS AMENDMENT? OPPOSED? [ INAUDIBLE ]. WE'LL GO TO THE STAFF PRESENTATION. >>COUN. BASSAN: THAT WOULD BE WONDERFUL. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCIL MEMBERS, THE SPONSORS OF O-22-16 IS ASKING TO GIVE A PRESENTATION ON THE LEGISLATION TO PROVIDE EXPLANATION AND CONTEXT. NEXT SLIDE. 2020 STUDY BY THE URBAN INSTITUTE IDENTIFIED A NEED FOR ABOUT 2,200 SUPPORTIVE HOUSING VOUCHERS IN ALBUQUERQUE. THE CITY'S IS INVESTING HEAVILY IN USING VOUCHERS TO REDUCE HOMELESSNESS. THERE'S $20 MILLION PLUS AN ADDITIONAL $3.5 MILLION. FOR THE STRATEGY TO BE SUCCESSFUL TO IDENTIFY HOUSING THAT IS A FAIR MARKET RATE TO ACCEPT VOUCHERS. OUR FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES DEPARTMENT REPORTS 90% SUCCESS RATE WHEN PEOPLE IN THEIR PROGRAMS THAT ARE FUNDED BY THE CITY ARE ABLE TO USE HOUSING VOUCHERS. IT MEANS THEY REMAINED IN THE PROGRAM SUCCESSFULLY OR EXITED TO ANOTHER KIND OF HOUSING. NEXT SLIDE. CASE WORKERS AND PERSPECTIVE TENANTS REPORTED DIFFICULTY IN FINDING SUITABLE UNITS THAT ACCEPT VOUCHERS. LAST FREED -- FRIDAY A LARGE HOUSING PROVIDER ISSUED NOTICES THAT WERE NOT PROTECTED BY THE LEASE THEY WOULD NO LONGER BE ACCEPTING VOUCHERS. AND THIS IS NOT AN ISOLATED INCIDENT. OUR SERVICE PROVIDERS SAW THIS HAPPENING REGULARLY. IN A SURVEY OF 176 LANDLORDS, AS DETERMINED BY HUD, 65% OF THESE REFUSE TO TAKE HOUSING VOUCHERS. THE HOLDERS HAVE 30 TO 60 DAYS DO FIND A UNIT. MANY VOUCHERS HOLDERS LOSE VOUCHERS AND CAN'T FIND A UNIT IN ACCEPTABLE TIME. AN AVERAGE OF 70 DAYS FOR TENANTS TO FIND A UNIT ONCE THEY HAVE A VOUCHER. NEXT SLIDE. HOUSING IS A RIGHT PROTECTED FOR A NUMBER OF CLASSES. MANY HUMAN RIGHTS ORDINANCE WILL HELP VOUCHER HOLDER AND INCREASE ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. IT DOESN'T MEAN THEY MUST PREFER SOMEONE WHO HAS A NON-TRADITIONAL INCOME. THEY MUST ME CONSIDERED WHEN CONSIDERING ALL TENANTS. THIS LEVELATIZE THE PLAYING FIELD FOR PEOPLE WITH DIFFERENT SOURCES OF INCOME. SOCIAL SECURITY, DISABILITY, ALIMONY OR HOUSING VOUCHERS. 19 STATES AND 119 CITIES HAVE THE LAWS LIKE THIS. AND HAVING LAWS THAT PREVENT INCOME DISCRIMINATION INCREASE UTILIZATION OF VOUCHERS. NEXT SLIDE. CREATING THIS LEGISLATION, THE PROCESS OF SOURCE OF INCOME DISCRIMINATION IS HIGHLIGHTED BY THE HOMELESS COORDINATING COUNSEL AND LEGISLATION TO PROHIBIT SOURCE OF INCOME. THIS WAS A RECOMMENDATION FROM THE 2020 URBAN INSTITUTE REPORT. LOCAL PROVIDERS AND MEMBERS OF UNM LAW AND COUNCIL STAFF CREATED THE FIRST DRAFT. THERE WERE MULTIPLE MEETINGS WITH LANDLORD AGENCIES. THIS SLIDE IS A BREAK DOWN OF WHAT THE LEGISLATION DOES AND DOES NOT DO. IT PROHIBITS THE LANDLORD FROM REJECTING A TENANT BASED ON SOURCE OF INCOME. IT ALLOWS THE LANDLORD TO SET THE PRICE OF THE UNIT AS THEY SEE FIT. THEY DON'T HAVE TO HAVE THEIR UNIT AT MARKET VALUE. THEY CAN PRICE IT AS THEY SEE FIT. AND SOMEBODY THAT HAS THE VOUCHER CAN APPLY FOR THE UNIT THAT IS ACCEPTABLE UNDER THE AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT THE VOUCHER HOLDER HAS. THIS ALLOWS LANDLORDS TO CHARGE FEES OR DEPOSITS. IT REQUIRES THE HOUSING QUALITY INSPECTION BE COMPLETED WITHIN FIVE BUSINESS DAYS OF A TENANT SELECTING A UNIT OTHERWISE THEY CAN MOVE TO A NEW TENANT. IT APPROPRIATES $150,000 FOR LONNED -- LANDLORD APPROPRIATION STUDY. ALSO APPROPRIATES $100,000 FOR HOUSING QUALITY INSPECTION ASSISTANCE. THAT'S TO HELP THOSE AGENCIES THAT ARE HAVING DIFFICULTY GETTING HOUSING QUALITY INSPECTIONS DONE. THIS IS NOT PREVENTING LANDLORD FOR VETTING A TENANT, WHETHER THAT INCLUDES BACKGROUND CHECKS, RENTAL HISTORY CHECKS, INTERVIEWS OR ANY OTHER TOOL. AS LONG AS IT'S CONSISTENT BETWEEN ALL TENANTS AND DOESN'T SINGLE OUT PEOPLE. IT DOES NOT PREVENT A LANDLORD FOR EVICTING TENANTS. IT DMAUTZ DOES NOT REQUIRE THEM TO SET THE VALUE. IF A UNIT COSTS MORE THAN CAN BE COVERED, THEY DON'T HAVE TO LOWER RENT. IT DOES NOT PREVENT FROM RAISING RENT. THANK YOU, AND I'M AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. BEFORE WE GO TO MORE QUESTIONS, I JUST WANT TO SAY A COUPLE THINGS. COUNCILOR JONES, WE DID PUT A PARAMETER THAT INSPECTIONS HAVE TO OCCUR WITHIN FIVE DAYS. THAT'S SOMETHING WHERE WE MAKE SURE LANDLORDS HAVE ADVOCACY. BEING THAT WAS ONE OF THE MAJOR COMPLAINTS. >>COUN. JONES: DOES THAT MEAN THAT THE VOUCHER MONEY WILL BE AVAILABLE WITHIN FIVE DAYS? OR IS THERE A TWO MONTH WAITING PERIOD? >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR JONES, WE ALSO PUT IN FUNDING TO HELP WITH THAT AT LEAST IN THE FIRST YEAR WHEN WE SEE HOW THIS WORKS. IF THERE A PROBLEM WITH VOUCHER COMING THROUGH, THE CITY CAN USE SOME OF THE MONEY UNTIL IT COMES IN AT WHICH IT'S REPAID. THE OTHER THING I WANTED TO SAY, MR. PRESIDENT, IS THAT WE ALREADY DID THE AMENDMENT THAT DOES THE 30% WITH THAT. I HOPE THAT PUTS SOME PEOPLE'S MIND AT EASE. ANY FORM OF PAYMENT HAS BEEN REMOVED BASED OFF COMMITTEE SUBSTITUTE. THIS WAS ANOTHER CONCERN WE HEARD, THEY WERE CONCERNED THAT ANY FORM OF PAYMENT COULD BE CALCULATED TO DECIDE IF 30% WAS AVAILABLE OR NOT. THAT IS REMOVED SO IT CAN'T BE IN THE FORM OF GIFT OR INITANCE. THAT HAS BEEN REMOVED TOO. I WANTED TO ASK, EXTRA INCOME FOR FOOD AND CLOTHING. I KNOW PEOPLE WERE MAKING COMMENTS THAT WE HEARD, AND I'VE HEARD IT BEFORE, IS THERE -- THERE'S A CONCERN IF PEOPLE HAVE TO BE REQUIRED TO PAY 30% AND THEY DON'T HAVE MONEY FOR FOOD OR CLOTHING AND THEY GO AROUND TO OTHER PLACES TO FIND THAT MONEY. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT'S NOT QUITE HOW IN THIS ARRANGES. I REALIZE THE IDEOLOGY AND THE REALITY MIGHT BE DIFFERENT. THAT'S NOT THE LEGAL PARAMETER. CAN YOU INFORM ME IF I'M ON THE RIGHT TRACK. >> THAT IS CORRECT. I CHECKED WITH FAMILY AND COMMUNITIES, AND THEY NEVER A HEARD A VOUCHER PROGRAM THAT REQUIRES A LANDLORD TO DO THOSE THINGS. I'M NOT QUITE SURE WHAT THEY'RE REFERRING TO. I HAVE NOT EVER HEARD A PROGRAM LIKE THAT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, MS. STYLES, THIS IS A DIFFERENT. THAT'S COMING UP TOO. THIS ONE IS ABOUT THE -- IF A TENANT THAT IS USING A VOUCHER HAS 30%, LET'S SAY ROUND NUMBER, I KEEP USING A THOUSAND, THEY'RE ABLE TO PAY $300. THEY'RE ONLY SOURCE OF INCOME IS $300, THEY CANNOT AFFORD FOOD ORULATES, WHERE DOES THAT BURDEN FALL ON THE LANDLORD? >> IT DOES NOT FALL ON THE LONNED -- LANDLORD. IF THEY GO AROUND AND TRY TO RECEIVE FUNDING FROM NEIGHBORS. THAT'S SOMETHING THAT CAN HAPPEN WITH ANY SITUATION WITH ANY SOURCE OF INCOME. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, MS. STYLES, IS IT SOMEBODY THAT WAS REQUIRED TO PAY $300 WOULD ONLY HAVE $300 OF INCOME COMING IN EVERY MONTH. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, IF SOMEBODY IS REQUIRED TO PAY $300 OF INCOME, THAT MEANS THEY HAVE $900 PER MONTH BUZZ THEY ONLY REQUIRE TO PAY 30% OF INCOME. BY DEFINITION, WHATEVER THEY'RE PAYING, THEY'RE MAKING AN EXTRA 70% ON TOP OF THAT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU. THAT IS WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR. MAKING SURE I WAS ON THE RIGHT TRACK EXPECTING HOW TO HELP AND THERE'S THAT SOURCE OF INCOME SCOMBHCH I WAS WONDERING IF WE CAN GET THE OFFICE OF EQUITY AND INCLUSION WITH QUESTIONS THAT COME UP TO WHETHER OR NOT, IF A LANDLORD IS FORCED TO TAKE A VOUCHER. THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS IS DOING. FOR SOME PEOPLE THAT ARE WORRIED IF THEY ARE FORCED TO TAKE A VOUCHER, BASED ON THE LANGUAGE, DO THEY HAVE TO ASSIST WITH TAKING PEOPLE TO DR.'S APPOINTMENT AND MAKING SURE THEY HAVE FOOD AND IT'S PREPARED, ET CETERA? >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, I RUN THE OFFICE OF CIVIL RIGHTS FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. COUNCILOR BASSAN, THERE'S NOTHING IN THIS ORDINANCE THAT IMPOSES ADDITIONAL REQUIREMENTS ON LANDLORDS FOR VOUCHER HOLDERS. THERE'S NO REQUIREMENTS TO PROVIDE EXTRA FOOD, OR TRANSPORTATION, OR COUNSELLING. I'VE CONSULTED WITH THE COMMUNITY ADVOCATES AND THEY KNOW OF NO PROGRAM THAT POSES THESE. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, DIRECTOR, MY APOLOGIES, I SAID OFFICE AND INCLUSION AND HERE YOU ARE WITH CIVIL RIGHTS. I APPRECIATE IT. I HOPE THAT IS A MYTH BUSTER OR SOME CLARIFICATION OF WHAT THIS IS WHAT THIS IS NOT. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, I DO BELIEVE THIS IS -- I GUESS LET ME SAY, I AGREE THERE'S UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES. I ALSO AGREE WITH THE HOUSING PROVIDERS AND MANY OF THE COMMENTS MADE TONIGHT. WE HAD A LOT OF QUESTIONS IN COMMITTEE AND COMMENTS IN COMMITTEE. DID WE COME BACK WITH DATA ON DELINQUENCY RATES? >> COUNCILOR LEWIS, IT WAS -- WE DID LOOK INTO DELINQUENCY RATES. IT'S ALMOST IMPOSSIBLE TO TELL. THERE ARE ALSO MANY CASES WHEN SOMEBODY WILL BE TOLD THEY'RE GOING TO BE EVICTED AND THEY LEAVE. THERE'S A LOT OF CIRCUMSTANCES REQUIRING THIS. WHAT I CAN SAY IS FAMILIES AND COMMUNITIES HAVE REPORTED A 90% SUCCESS RATE WITH THEIR VOUCHER PROGRAMS. IF SOMEBODY IS DELINQUENT OR EVICTED FROM THEIR PROGRAM, THEY LOSE THEIR PROGRAM. THEY DON'T GET TO KEEP IT. THERE MIGHT BE A 10%, AT LEAST FOR THE FAMILY AND COMMUNITIES PROGRAM. THAT'S THE BEST NUMBER WE CAN FIND. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, WE'VE HEARD A LOT FROM THE HOUSING PROVIDERS, THESE ARE THE HOUSING PROVIDERS, WE CAN CALL THEM LANDOWNERS OR LANDLORDS, THEY'RE HOUSING PROVIDERS. SO, IT'S CLEAR THERE'S NO BUY IN. YOU WOULD THINK THERE'S SOME BUY IN FOR IT. I DON'T SEE ANYTHING AT ALL. THEY'RE THE MAJOR STAKEHOLDERS. THEY HAVE ARTICULATED A LOT OF UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF PASSING SOMETHING LIKE THIS. I'M GOING TO MOVE A 90-DAY DEFERRAL. AT LEAST GET SOME BUY IN ON IT. I MOVE A 90-DAY DEFERRAL. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR JONES FOR A 90-DAY DEFERRAL. >>COUN. DAVIS: ON THE MATTER OF DEFERRAL, I DON'T THINK THAT'S NECESSARY. I THINK WE'VE DONE A LOT HERE. THE SPONSORS HAVE A BILL THEY THINK ADDRESSES THE QUESTIONS. I THINK WE CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS THROUGH Q&A. I RECOGNIZE THIS IS THE BILL IS THAT STANDS BETWEEN US AND DINNER. I DON'T THINK WE NEED TO PROLONG THE CONVERSATION. I THINK WE CAN ADDRESS SOME OF THE CONCERNS. I PREFER WE TAKE A VOTE THIS EVENING AS WE HAVE A COMPLETE BILL AND HOUSING CRISIS WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THIS EVENING. IF IT'S THE COUNCIL INTENT TO VOTE THIS DOWN, WE GO INTO THE NEW FISCAL YEAR KNOWING THAT AND NOT LEAVE THIS HANGING. >>COUN. BENTON: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION ON THIS? >>COUN. SANCHEZ: I AGREE WITH THE DEFERRAL. WE HEARD FROM EVEN SUPPORTERS OF THIS BILL THAT IT'S NOT READY TO BE PUT FORTH. I HEARD SOMEONE IN HERE THAT HAD MAJOR, MAJOR, THAT WAS REALLY INVOLVED IN THE SITUATION IN HELPING WITH VOUCHERS AND ACCEPTING THESE AND UNDERSTANDS THE PROCESS THAT GOES THROUGH. THIS GENTLEMAN STILL STATED THIS IS ISN'T READY TO GO. I'M ON A POSITION WE DO DEFER THIS FOR 90 DAYS. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I THINK THAT THERE'S A POSSIBILITY THAT THIS LEGISLATION COULD BE MADE TO WORK. HOWEVER, THERE'S SO MUCH CONFUSION AND SO MUCH MISINFORMATION. IF LANDLORDS ARE SAYING TO US THEY'RE RELUCTANT TO RENT TO SOMEONE UNDER THESE CIRCUMSTANCES AND THEY HAVE EXPERIENCE WITH THIS IN THE PAST. LANDLORDS AREN'T OUT THERE TO STOP PEOPLE FROM RENTING. THEY'RE OUT TO GET PEOPLE TO RENT FROM THEM BUT TO BE ABLE TO COLLECT RENT AND MAKE EVERYTHING WORK. THERE'S SOME MAJOR CONCERN WITH THE LARGE NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO PROVIDE HOUSING FOR THE SAME KIND OF PEOPLE WHO NEED THIS KIND OF HOUSING. IF WE SET OURSELVES UP SO WE'RE CAUSING THAT GROUP TO NO LONGER BE WILLING TO PARTICIPATE IN AND HOUSE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE IN MOST NEED OF A PLACE TO STAY, I THINK WE'RE BIG A LITTLE SHORTSIGHTED IN THIS. I HOPE WITH COUNCILOR SANCHEZ'S IDEA OF POSTPONING OR DEFERRING THIS A WHILE AND MEET WITH PEOPLE AND SEE IF WE CAN IRON THIS OUT. THE PEOPLE WHO I HEAR THIS WORKS ARE LAWYERS. THE PEOPLE WHO WHERE SAY DOESN'T WORK WELL ARE THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE TO MAKE IT WORK. THE LAWYERS AREN'T GOING TO LOSE MONEY IF THIS DOESN'T WORK. THE LONNED -- LANDLORDS WILL LOSE BIG MONEY. I'M CONFIDENT IF THIS TENANT IS IN DEFAULT AND THERE'S AN ISSUE, THE LANDLORD IS GOING TO SPEND A LOT OF MONEY AND TIME AND FACE A LOT OF DAMAGE TO THEIR PROPERTY IN ORDER TO GET RID OF A TENANT WHO HAS DEFAULTED ON THE PROGRAM OR PROGRAM ISN'T WORKING OR THE RENT ISN'T BEING PAID OR SOMETHING IS GOING WRONG. I THINK IT'S THAT YES WE NEED TO HOUSE PEOPLE. BUT IT SHOULDN'T BE AT THE COST OF PEOPLE WHO HAVE THE HOUSING THAT THEY CAN HAVE BECAUSE THERE'S A MISUNDERSTANDING. I WOULD LIKE FOR THE PARTIES TO SIT DOWN, WORK THIS OUT AND SEE IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT CAN WORK. AGAIN, WHEN I'M LISTENING TO PEOPLE WITH BOOTS ON THE GROUND DOING THIS VERSUS THREE, FOUR, FIVE LAWYERS, THIS ISN'T WHO DOES THIS. I WANT TO TALK TO THE PEOPLE AGAIN. WHERE WANT TO TALK TO THE PEOPLE WHO REPRESENT THE CLIENTS WOO -- WHO NEED THE HOUSING. I WILL PUT FORWARD A DEFERRAL WITH THE LEGISLATION AS IT STANDS. >> WE'RE BACK ON THE MOTION FOR A DEFERRAL. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES. OPPOSED? THAT MOTION FAILS. WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL. COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. PRESIDENT. AS I SAID, I REALIZE THIS IS AN IMPORTANT PIECE. I THINK WE'VE TALKED A LOT ABOUT THIS. WE'VE ADDRESSED SOME OF THE CONCERNS. TO THE POINT OF MEETING WITH FOLKS, COUNCILOR BASSAN AND I HELD A NUMBER OF MEETINGS. WITH THE REALTERES ASSOCIATION. WE BROUGHT FOLKS INTO THE CITY HALL WITH PROVIDERS. THE PROVIDERS ARE ON ONE SIDE OF THE TABLE, ADVOCATES ON THE OTHER. WE REALLY HEARD FROM THEM. WHAT WE FOUND IS THERE'S A LOT OF MISINFORMATION ABOUT WHAT THIS MEANS TO TAKE A VOUCHER AND THE STAFF REPORT SHOWED 65% OF THE MARKET HOUSING PROVIDERS JUST DON'T TAKE VOUCHERS. IT'S NOT BECAUSE THEY DON'T LIKE LOW INCOME PEOPLE, THEY'RE IN THAT BUSINESS. IT'S BECAUSE MANY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS. THEY DON'T UNDERSTAND THE PAPERWORK. THEY'RE INTIMIDATED BY IT. WE'VE HEARD CONCERNS I CAN'T GET MY CHECK IN 120 DAYS. THE DATA SHOWS THERE'S A COUPLE OF PROVIDERS WHO ARE WAY BEHIND THE CURVE IN TRYING TO ADDRESS THOSE ON REIMBURSABLE BASIS. THERE'S TWO SOLUTIONS. WE FOUND PROVIDERS WHO DO REIMBURSEMENT ON 30-DAY BASIS. THEY GET THE MONEY IN THE SAME MONTH THEY SIGN UP. WE HAVE TO REMEMBER VOUCHER IS ONLY 30% OF SOMEONE'S INCOME. A TENANT HAS TO ALL THE OTHER WORK JUST LIKE ANY OTHER TENANT. FROM DAY ONE, THEY HAVE TO PAY DETAUZT AND THEIR 70%. IF YOU NORMALLY RUN AN APARTMENT COMPLEX AND YOU REQUIRE PEOPLE TO PAY A DEPOSIT IN THE FIRST MONTH THEY HAVE TO DO THAT TOO. THEY HAVE TO PAY 70%. YOU'RE COLLECTING 70% OF REVENUE ON DAY ONE. IF THAT'S YOUR POLICY OF ALL OF YOUR RENTERS. IT'S NOT YOU'RE WITHOUT NEVER. YOU'RE GETTING INTO THIS PROGRAM AND IT CAN BE A HURDLE. COUNCILOR BASSAN CHANGED THE APPROPRIATIONS TO ENSURE THERE'S MONEY NOT ONLY ON THE UPSIDE, BUT THERE'S MORE INSPECTORS. THE APARTMENT ASSOCIATION, FOLKS WHO CAME TO THE TABLE AND REPRESENTED MANY MEMBERS WERE HAVING TROUBLE SCHEDULING INSPECTORS AND THEY WOULD BE ELIGIBLE TO HIRE THEIR OWN INSPECTORS. WE ALSO FOUND THERE NEEDED TO BE EDUCATION. WE SAW A CEASE OF THAT IN THE PRESENTATION. ALSO TO HELP LANDLORDS NAVIGATE THE PROCESS. WHAT IS IT LIKE TO FILL OUT THE FORM THE FIRST TIME. THAT'S WHY WE APPROPRIATED WHAT WE BELIEVE IS A GOOD START WORKING WITH OTHERS ON AN ADVOCACY PROGRAM FOR LANDLORDS. SOMEBODY ON THEIR SIDE OF THE TABLE. EDUCATE HOW TO FILL OUT THE FORMS. HOW IT IS YOU CAN GET SOMEONE ON YOUR CALL AND SAY, I DON'T UNDERSTAND SOMEBODY WALKED IN WITH A VOUCHER I'VE NEVER SEEN. THE CITY IS WILLING TO STEP UP AND DO THAT WORK. THAT'S A HUGE PART TO SAYING THE CITY IS NOT SHIFTING A BURDEN TO THE PRIEFRBT SECTOR. WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO THE PRIVATE SECTOR JOB BETTER. AT THE END OF THE DAY WE TREAT SOMEONE WHO WALKS IN WITH A VOUCHER LIKE SOMEONE WHO WALKS IN WITH A CHECK. IT'S A BASIC HUMAN RIGHT TO HAVE ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING. MUCH OF THIS HOUSING AT THIS LEVEL IS NOT OUR BEST. IT'S NOT A PENTHOUSE APARTMENT. IT IS A LOT OF FOLKS WHO WORK REALLY HARD TO KEEP UP WITH PROPERTIES AND MAKE THEM AVAILABLE TO WORKING CLASS FAMILIES. THEY ARE PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE. I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT TO MAKE THAT CLEAR. THAT FOLKS ARE PAYING THEIR FAIR SURE, THEY'RE DOING THEIR PART. IF THEY DON'T LIVE UP TO THE AGREEMENT, YOU EVICT THEM LIKE ANY OTHER TENANT. YOU CAN'T TREAT THEM DIFFERENT BECAUSE THE RETURN ADDRESS IS CITY HALL AND NOT BANK OF AMERICA OR WHATEVER THAT IS. IT'S A BASIC THING. AND HELPING WORKING CLASS PEOPLE MAKE ENDS MEET AND MATCHING THEM TO HOUSING WE KNOW IS AVAILABLE. WE'VE TRIED TO ADDRESS THOSE ISSUES. I APPRECIATE THE TIME FOR THE SPEECH. I THINK WE'VE DONE THIS WELL. AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO FIX IT. WE'VE TRIED TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS. WE'RE NEVER GOING TO FIX EVERYBODY'S CONCERNS. BUT WE'RE GOING TO TRY. I KNOW MR. SHELLEDEN IS A GOOD PLAYER. HE ASKED US TO PROVIDE SOCIAL SERVICES TO HELP KEEP THEM IN PLACE. WE ADDED $20 MILLION FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND MORE IN OUR REGULAR OPERATING BUDGET THIS YEAR. DOUBLE WHAT WAS ORIGINALLY REQUESTED. WE NOW HAVE THE FUNDS TO DO ALL OF THOSE THINGS. I THINK WE SHOULD DO THAT IN A COLLECTIVE WAY. IT'S STARTS BY MAKING THOSE HOMES AVAILABLE. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE APARTMENT ASSOCIATION. WHAT WOULD BE A BETTER WAY TO INCENTIVIZE LANDLORDS TO TAKE VOUCHERS? >> MR. PRESIDENT, THERE'S SEVERAL WAYS TO LOOK AT IT. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT'S BEEN DONE IS A RISK MITIGATION FUND. AS MENTIONED HERE, THE THIRD PARTY ASSISTANCE ALMOST NEVER PAYS FOR DAMAGES. THE RISK MITIGATION FUND IS AN INSURANCE POLICY. YOU SEE THEM IN CALIFORNIA. THEY'RE STRUCTURED DIFFERENTLY IN EVERY STATE. IT'S THE INSURANCE POT, THE CITY PUTS ASIDE MONEY FOR DAMAGES TO THE PROPERTY. THAT WAY IF AN OWNER WHO IS MAYBE THEIR THE REASON THEY WOULDN'T GET INTO THIS PROGRAM BECAUSE OF THE RISK OF NOT HAVING SOMETHING PAID FOR DAMAGE, THEY CAN APPLY FOR THIS INSURANCE. IT'S CALLED A RISK MITIGATION. >>COUN. GROUT: SOUNDS GREAT. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES AGAIN. ONCE A FAMILY RECEIVES A VOUCHER, HOW DO THEY FIND A HOUSE AND APARTMENT, AND DOES ALBUQUERQUE HOUSING AUTHORITY HELP THEM FIND A PLACE? >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR GROUT, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. LET ME CLARIFY, THE DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES CONTRACTS WITH NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS IN OUR COMMUNITY TO ADMINISTER SUPPORTIVE HOUSING VOUCHER PROGRAMS. THE CITY DOES NOT DIRECTLY ADMINISTER VOUCHER PROGRAMS. ALL OF THE SUPPORTIVE HOUSING PROGRAMS THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES FUNDS COMES WITH CASE MANAGEMENT SERVICES. WHEN A HOUSEHOLD OR FAMILY OR INDIVIDUAL IS ACCEPTED INTO SUPPORTIVE HOUSING VOUCHER PROGRAM FUNDED THROUGH THE CITY THERE IS A CASE MANAGER ASSIGNED THAT FAMILY OR INDIVIDUAL THAT HELPS THEM THROUGH THE HOUSING PROCESS. HELPING THEM TO IDENTIFY APARTMENTS, OFTEN THE ORGANIZATION HAS A LIST OF LANDLORDS THAT ARE WILLING OR SOMETIMES WILLING TO TAKE VOUCHERS AND HELP FOLKS IDENTIFY AND THINK THROUGH WHERE THEY WANT THEM TO LIVE AND WHERE THEY WANT KIDS TO GO TO SCHOOL. ALBUQUERQUE HOUSING AUTHORITY IS SEPARATE ENTITY FROM THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. THE HOUSING AUTHORITY VOUCHER DO NOT COME WITH SUPPORTIVE SERVICES. THE HOUSING AUTHORITY, AS FAR AS I KNOW, DOES NOT PROVIDE ASSISTANCE TO HOUSEHOLDS. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? BACK ON THE BILL. IF NOT, I WILL -- COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I'LL TAKE THIS AS MY CLOSE. I KNOW OUR BUDGET MANAGER IS HERE. I THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT IF WE CAN GO AHEAD AND LOOK INTO AT LEAST PUTTING IN SOME DETAILS IN A NOTE FOR NEXT YEAR'S BUDGET ABOUT LOOKING INTO RISK MITIGATION FUND. AND IN SUMMARY, WE HAD MULTIPLE MEETINGS WITH BOTH SIDES. I'M CONVINCED THAT I ENDED UP BEING A CO-SPONSOR SO I CAN HELP FIGURE OUT SOME WAY TO REPRESENT A LITTLE BIT MORE FULLY THE PROPERTY OWNER AND LANDLORD SIDE WITHOUT REALIZING THAT'S WHAT I WAS DOING. I REALIZED TOO, THAT THERE IS NO FULL AGREEMENT THAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN JUST WITH BOTH SIDES OF THIS. I THINK WE'VE DONE WHAT WE CAN FOR NOW TO COME TO A MIDDLE GROUND WHERE IT'S BEEN MITIGATED A LITTLE BIT. AND IT HAS BEEN A LITTLE BIT MORE PALLETABLE, I HOPE. I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING THAT IS NOT GOING TO END UP BEING AS SCARY AND TERRIBLE FOR THE LONNED -- LANDLORDS WITHOUT REALLY ACTUALLY TRYING TO THAT NEED HELP. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT. WE'LL MOVE TO A VOTE. LOALL ALL THOSE IN FAVORER SAY YES. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES ON A 5-4 VOTE. WE WILL RETURN AFTER A SHORT BREAK FOR DINNER. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT, WE'RE BACK IN SESSION. WE'LL GET -- WE'RE NOW GOING TO ITEM J. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, MYSELF, AND COUNCILOR DAVIS. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: MR. PRESIDENT, I'D LIKE TO MOVE A DEFERRAL ON R-36 DIRECTOR THE CITY ADMINISTRATION TO DEVELOP OPERATING PROCEDURES FOR SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES TO JUNE 22nd. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT. THERE'S A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR JONES. AND THERE'S A MOTION FOR DEFERRAL OF R-36 UNTIL THE 22nd. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. THAT PASSES ON AN 8-0 VOTE. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE NOW ON THE BIG ITEM OF THE NIGHT. COUNCILOR JONES AND MYSELF. O-10. THIS IS ADOPTING CITY WIDE TEXT AMENDMENTS TO THE INTEGRATED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE SECTION 14-16 FOR THE 2021 ANULING UPDATE AND ADOPTING TEXT AMENDMENTS FOR THE HISTORICAL OLD TOWN OVERLAY. I MOVE A DUE PASS. WE'LL BEGIN WITH PUBLIC COMMENT ON THIS BILL. WE'LL FIRST HEAR FROM THOSE WHO SIGNED UP TO SPEAK REGARDING CANNABIS PROHIBITIONS IN OLD TOWN. THIS IS QUASI-JUDICIAL AND REQUIRES MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC BE SWORN IN. IF YOU'RE SPEAKING TO THE PUBLIC PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND. >> MR. PRESIDENT, YOU DIDN'T HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP. >>COUN. BENTON: WE DIDN'T HAVE ANYONE SIGNED UP? >> NOT FOR THAT PORTION. >>COUN. BENTON: THAT LEAVES MS. SHULTZ. >> I BELIEVE PEOPLE SIGNED UP FOR AMENDMENT B14 WOULD HAVE TO BE SWORN IN. >> MR. PRESIDENT, I'LL BE PRESENTING ON THE CANNABIS CHANGES, AMENDMENT B14 AND THE GENERAL CITYWIDE CHANGES AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT. WE'LL PROCEED WITH THE AMENDMENT B14 PUBLIC COMMENT FIRST. >>COUN. BENTON: WHAT ABOUT THE OLD TOWN? NO ONE SIGNED UP? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT. THANKS. WE WILL MOVE THEN TO THE PUBLIC COMMENT FOR THOSE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK REGARDING B14, OVERNIGHT SHELTEDERS THIS QUASI-JUDICIAL. IT REQUIRES MEMBERS BE SWORN IN. IF YOU'RE SPEAKING, PLEASE RAISE YOUR RIGHT HAND. DO YOU AFFIRM UNDER PENALTY OF PERJURY YOUR TESTIMONY WILL BE TRUE? THANK YOU. >> I DO SO AFFIRM. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. MR. MOYA, PLEASE BEGIN CALLING SPEAKERS. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS CARLA, FOLLOWED BY LARRY. >> GOOD EVENING, MR. PRESIDENT, AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, CARLA WAS NOT ABLE TO STAY. I WORK WITH A COUPLE DIFFERENT GROUPS, NEW MEXICO BUSINESS COALITION. ALSO AN ADVOCACY GROUP OF THOUSANDS OF NEW MEXICANS CALLED BETTER TOGETHER NEW MEXICO. AND WE APPRECIATE WHAT THE -- WHAT YOU'RE TRYING TO DO TO HELP PEOPLE. ENABLING AND ENCOURAGING HOMELESS CAMPS TO EXPAND IS NOT GOING TO BE HELPFUL. THERE WAS A MAN BY THE NAME OF WILL NM HUTSMAN WHO GAVE AN INTERVIEW TO THE NEW MEXICO SUN AND HE SAID ENABLING A LIFESTYLE OF HOMELESSNESS IS COUNTER PRODUCTIVE. I ENCOURAGE YOU NOT TO GO FORWARD WITH THE AMENDMENTS OR THE MAJOR ZONING CHANGES. THIS NEEDS TO BE FLUSHED OUT FURTHER. I WAS TALKING TO A PERSON THAT SAYS THIS WILL NOT COST TAXPAYERS ANYTHING, THAT IS NOT INUNDERSTANDING TAXPAYERS HAVE. YOU MAY HAVE RECEIVED EMAILS FROM PEOPLE BECAUSE ADVOCATES WANT THIS STOPPED. I APPRECIATE THE QUESTION WAS ASKED TO THE CHIEF OF POLICE DID YOU ORDER POLICE NOT TO ENFORCE BASIC LAWS WHEN IT COMES TO VAGRANCY AND LOITERING. THAT IS WHAT YOU SHOULD BE FOCUSING ON AND NOT TRYING TO ESTABLISH FURTHER HOMELESS CAMPS. THANK YOU. >> MIKE, FOLLOWED BY JOSHUA. >> JOSH, FOLLOWED BY LORETTA. >> LORETTA, FOLLOWED BY RAVEN. >> GOOD EVENING, PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS. I'M PRESIDENT OF THE MARTINEZ TOWN NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AND A MEMBER OF THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD ALLIANCE. THE HISTORIC NEIGHBORHOOD ALLIANCE HAS LONG ADVOCATED FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND BELIEVES HOUSING IS A HUMAN RIGHT. OUR HOUSED NEIGHBORS LIVING IN THE STREETS DESERVE THE DIGNITY OF HOUSING RATHER THAN SANCTIONED TENT CITIES. THEY DESERVE A PLACE COOL IN THE SUMMER AND WARM IN THE WINTER. THEY DESERVE A SAFE PLACE TO AGE IN IN PLACE AND HEAL FROM THE TRAUMA OF LIVING ON THE STREETS. THEY DESERVE A PLACE TO CALL HOME MORE THAN ANYTHING. THE STRATEGIES WE ARE ADVOCATING FOR ARE HOUSING FIRST APPROACH FOR ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS. ACCELERATE THE BUILDING OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING, CONSIDER CITYWIDE RENT CONTROL. IT IS TIME TO STOP CREAING BAND-AID POLICIES THAT WILL ONLY MANAGE THE PROBLEMS WE NEED REAL SYSTEMIC AND TRANSFORMATIONAL SOLUTIONS. PLEASE VOTE NO AGAINST O-22-10. THERE ARE MANY STRATEGIES THAT THE CITY COULD UNDERTAKE RATHER THAN THIS ROUTE. ESPECIALLY WHEN COMES TO VOLVING HOMELESSNESS. HOUSING FIRST IS ONE SUCH MODEL WITH THE RIGHT INVESTMENT TO ALLEVIATE HOMELESS CRISIS IN THE SHORT-TERM AND SUCCEED IN THE LONG-TERM. MANY OF OUR LOCAL NON-PROFIT AGENCIES HAVE A HOUSING FIRST PROGRAM. LIKE HEADING HOME ALBUQUERQUE, ALBUQUERQUE HEALTH CARE FOR THE HOMELESS AND HOPE WORKS. I'D LIKE TO THANK YOU FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK. >> RAVEN, FOLLOWED BY SANDRA. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILORS, WE ALL KNOW THERE IS A NEED TO HELP THE UNHOUSED LIVING AMONG US IN ALL NINE DISTRICTS. BY MAKING IDO CHANGES PERMISSIVE USE VERSUS CONDITIONAL YOU SUBVERT THE PROCESS OF COMMUNITY INPUT WHEN BUILDING STRONG NEIGHBORHOODS. I'M PARTICULARLY AGGRIEVED TO SEE AMENDMENT B14 SILENCES THE VOICE OF OUR CONSTITUENTS. AND ALLOWING CHERRY PICKED MAIN STREETS TO REMAIN CONDITIONAL USE SENDING THE MESSAGE NOT FAVORED BY THIS ADMINISTRATION IS DEEMED UNEKEAL AND UNWORTHY OF EQUITABLE TREATMENT. THE NEED FOR CITYWIDE EQUITY IS ADDRESSED. THE CITY'S COMPREHENSIVE PLAN HOUSED THE NEED FOR EQUITABLE PLACEMENT FOR LAND USE PROJECTS AS WELL AS DESIRABLE ONES. PARAGRAPH LATER EQUITY IS TOSSED AND CHANGES PROPOSED FOR MXM BUILDING WHICH FALL ON DISTRICT SIX. IT COMPRISES11% OF THE CITY AND 42 SOCIAL SERVICES WHICH IS 52% OF THE SERVICE OF THE CITY. THEY HAVE BEEN TAKING THE LIE LION'S SHARE. CREATING ZONING LAWS TO LEGALLY AVOID IT IS NOT. WE WANT TO ELEVATE THEM TO A PLACE OF SAFETY, SECURITY AND HERSELF WORTH. WE DEMAND THE EQUITABLE TREATMENT. CREATE AN IDO THAT ALLOWS FOR COMMUNITY INPUT IN CREATING STRONG NEIGHBORHOODS. CONDITIONAL USE IS THE BEST FOOT FORWARD. NO ON O-22-10. >> SANDRA, FOLLOWED BY PETER. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILORS, I'M THE PRESIDENT OF ELDER HOMESTEAD NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION LOCATED IN DISTRICT SIX. BY NOW YOU'VE RECEIVED PLENTY OF INFORMATION AND DATA AND FACTS THROUGH EMAILS, TELEPHONE CALLS, AND PUBLIC COMMENT REQUESTING A NO VOTE ON B14. THAT'S ALLOWING THE CONDITIONAL PERMIT TO REMAIN IN PLACE. EACH OF YOU HAVE SPOKEN HEAVILY ABOUT ECATY AND PUBLIC SAFETY IN EACH OF YOUR DISTRICTS. IF YOU VOTE YES ON B14 THEN YOUR WORDS BECOME HYPOCRITICAL. RESIDENTS SHOULD HAVE THE RIGHT TO GIVE INPUT ON CITY PROJECTS THAT ADVERSELY AFFECT THEIR NEIGHBORHOODS AND SAFETY. YOUR CONSTITUENTS ARE FIGURATIVELY SCREAMING FOR YOU TO DO THE RIGHT THING. WE WANT TO BE HEARD AND ACKNOWLEDGED, BUT MOSTLY WE WANT YOU TO DO THE RIGHT THING AND VOTE NO ON B14. THANK YOU. >> PETER, FOLLOWED BY LEZLY. >> THIS SHOWS -- EXCUSE ME. THIS SHOWS WHERE MXH LOCATIONS ARE IN THE CITY. MOST OF THE LOCATIONS IN THE CITY ARE HOSPITALS, CENTRAL, MAJOR SHOPPER CENTERS. THE ONLY MAJOR OPEN AREAS WERE NORTH SAN MATEO AND FROM SAN MATEO AND CENTRAL TO TRAMWAY. I'M ASSUMING YOU'VE SEEN ALL THESE MAPS SINCE YOU'VE BEEN VOTING ON THEM. THESE MAPS SHOW THAT THE LOCATION FOR UNHOUSED WOULD BE ALONG THE CENTRAL CORRIDOR WHICH ONE OF THE COUNCILORS IS TRYING TO REVITALIZE. AND ALSO MIXED AREA. THE NEXT SLIDE HAS INCOME. THE LOWEST PERCENTILE, THE HIGHEST PERCENTILE WITH THE LOWEST INCOME AREAS IN AREAS IN ALBUQUERQUE ARE ON EAST CENTRAL. BASICALLY GOING FROM SAN MATEO. THOSE ARE RED ON THE SECOND MAP. IT LOOKS LIKE AN O. UNDERSTANDING THOSE ZONES -- THE OTHER ASPECTS IS THIS HAS 1,000 RESIDENTS. THE GATEWY -- IT COULD HAVE A THOUSAND PEOPLE. THANK YOU. >> LESLIE, FOLLOWED BY RENÉ. >> BEFORE I AGAIN, I DO HAVE A COUPLE PIECES OF EVIDENCE. ACTUALLY, RAVEN FORGOT TO GIVE YOU A PIECE OF EVIDENCE. I SPOKE TO HER. I WANTED TO GIVE THAT TO THE CLERK. IF SHE WANTS TO SAY WHAT THE IT IS, I HOPE TO GIVE HER AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY WHAT THAT IS. I HAVE ANOTHER -- I ONLY MADE ONE COPY. THIS IS THE ENTIRE SUBMISSION. AM WHERE ALLOWED TO HAVE MORE TIME THAN A MINUTE OF HALF. GIVEN IT'S A QUASI-JULTHS -- JUDICIAL HEARING. >>COUN. BENTON: WE HAVE TO HAVE THE SAME RULES. >> LET ME GIVE YOU THIS. INFORMATION THAT THREE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS GAVE TO THE ZONING HEARING EXAMINER WHEN THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT WAS BEING CONSIDERED LAST FALL. LASTLY, I WANTED TO GIVE YOU INFORMATION FROM THE CITY OF DENVER THAT HAS DEVELOPED WHAT IT SEEMS LIKE A GOOD COMPREHENSIVE MEANS OF PROVIDING FOR RESIDENTIAL. I'LL TRY TO -- I REALLY NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME. I REPRESENT THE THREE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS IN THEIR ONGOING APPEAL OF THE CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT GRANTED LAST FALL FOR GATEWAY. TONIGHT I'M SPEAKING ON BEHALF OF PARKLAND HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. AS I MENTIONED, THERE'S A CURRENT APPEAL OF THE PERMIT FOR GATEWAY. THE EVIDENCE SHOWED. >> MR. PRESIDENT, THAT APPEAL IS STILL PENDING BEFORE THE DAG. IT WILL COME TO CITY COUNCIL. IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE TO DISCUSS THAT AT THIS TIME. IN ADDITION, ONE OF THE EXHIBITS DIRECTLY SPEAKS TO THE APPEAL. THAT'S NOT APPROPRIATE TO HAND OUT EITHER. THE EVIDENCE SUBMITTED COUNCIL STAFF REVIEWED AND YOU'RE WELCOMED TO CONSIDER THAT EVIDENCE. IN GENERAL, THAT TYPE OF EVIDENCE WOULD NOT BE PERMITTED TO COME INTO THE PROCESS UNLESS IT'S RECEIVED 72 HOURS IN ADVANCE. THAT'S A PROTECTION FOR THE PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNERS. SINCE YOU HAVE THE CITY APPLICANT WE PROVIDED THAT EVIDENCE TO THE CITY ATTORNEY AND THE CITY ADMINISTRATION UNLESS THEY LIKE TO WEIGH IN ON WHETHER OR NOT THAT'S ACCEPTABLE TO VIEW AT THIS TIME. YOU SHOULD PROBABLY DEFER TO THEM FOR THAT QUESTION. IT IS A PUBLIC PROPERTY OWNER INSTEAD OF A PRIVATE, THE CITY ADMINISTRATION BEING THAT THE FOLKS THAT SUBMITTED THE JUSTIFICATION FOR THIS -- NOT QUITE THE SAME SITUATION AS A PRIVATE OWNER THAT NEEDS OPPORTUNITY TO REVIEW IN ADVANCE. IT'S YOUR DISCRETION WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO ACCEPT THIS EVIDENCE. IF YOU DO, YOU NEED TO CONSULT WITH CITY LEGAL AND THEIR ADMINISTRATION ON THEIR POSITION PUTTING IT INTO THE RECORD. >> MAY I RESPOND? IF THE OBJECTION IS THAT THIS WOULD BE EX-PARTE COMMUNICATION, YOU'RE ALL HERE TONIGHT. THIS WOULD NOT BE AN EXAMPLE OF EX-PARTE COMMUNICATION. THIS ALL IN THE RECORD. THE DOCUMENT THAT I'VE GIVEN YOU IS IN THE WRITTEN RECORD. I DON'T THINK IT'S OBJECTIONABLE BECAUSE -- AND IT DOES REALLY GO TO THE EVIDENCE ABOUT WHY CONDITIONAL USE SHOULD REMAIN IN MXH AND SHOULD NOT BE CHANGED TO PERMISSIVE USE. WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PRESENT EVIDENCE. THIS IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL HEARING ON THIS ISSUE. >>COUN. BENTON: IT IS COMPLICATED. >> MR. PRESIDENT, AGAIN, THERE WAS THREE PIECES OF EVIDENCE HANDED OUT TO THE CLEARLY POLICY QUESTION BEFORE. THE THIRD IS SPECIFICALLY LABELLED AS SOMETHING THAT WAS SUBMITTED TO THE DHE IN THAT PROCESS. THERE WILL BE A PROCESS FOR YOU TO HEAR THAT AT SOME POINT WITH THE PARTIES PRESENT AND ALL INVOLVED ON THE RECORD BEFORE YOU. HOWEVER IT'S NOT APPROPRIATE TO CONSIDER THIS OUTSIDE OF THAT SEPARATE HEARING. >>COUN. BENTON: I UNDERSTAND WE CAN RECEIVE THIS -- >> MR. PRESIDENT, THE TWO OF THE THREE-HANDED OUT ARE THE ONES THAT SPEAK GENERALLY TO THE POLICY QUESTION BEFORE YOU. THE ONE COUNCIL STAFF SPEAKS DIRECTLY TO THE DHE HEARING. THE ONES BEFORE YOU ARE WITHIN THE DISCRETION TO ACCEPT AS PART OF CONSIDERATION TONIGHT. >> MAY I ASK WHAT IS THE INFORMATION THAT IS OKAY? I DON'T KNOW WE HAVE -- HAVE THE PUBLIC BEEN ABLE TO REVIEW IT? OKAY. I'M UNCLEAR ON WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS OKAY FOR THE COUNCIL TO CONSIDER. >>COUN. BENTON: I'LL LEAVE ISUP TO THE COUNCIL. >> MR. PRESIDENT, I THINK IT'S CORRECT. YOU MAY ASK IF THERE'S OBJECTION TO RECEIVE IT. MANY TIMES IN THESE INSTANCES IT'S A PRIVATE PARTY THAT STANDS UP AND SAY WE'RE NOT PREPARED TO SPEAK TO THE EVIDENCE YOU RECEIVED. IT'S NOT FAIR TO BE RECEIVED AT THIS TIME. YOU MAY WANT TO CONSULT WITH THE ADMINISTRATION AND CITY LEGAL. >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. PRESIDENT, I THINK CITY LEGAL MAY HAVE COMMENT. I THINK IN THE BIG PICTURE I THINK THIS SPEAKS TO WHY WE SHOULDN'T DO THIS IN THIS WAY. IT'S A QUASI-JUDICIAL AMENDMENT TO THE IDO, THERE'S PROPERTY RIGHTS IMPLICATION AND THERE'S AN APPEAL THIS WOULD IMPACT BUT MAYBE NOT AND IT LOOKS LIKE A BACKWARD WAY OF GETTING AROUND IT AND THERE'S ONLY SOME PEOPLE TO PRESENT EVIDENCE. THIS SCREAMS FOR PROCESS VIOLATION ALL OVER THE PLACE THAT SOMEBODY WILL HAVE GROUNDS ONE WAY TO GO ABOUT. I DON'T THINK THIS IS THE RIGHT ANSWER FOR THIS ISSUE. PRIMARILY, BECAUSE THERE'S A REAL ZONING ISSUE OUT THERE COMING TO THIS COUNCIL. THERE'S EVIDENCE OVER THERE THAT MAY OR MAY NOT BE INCLUDED OVER HERE. I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO OPEN THIS UP IT FOR A FULL HEARING WE OUGHT TO HAVE A FULL HEARING AND PARTICIPATE. IT'S 9 O'CLOCK ON A MONDAY NIGHT WITHOUT A WHOLE LOT OF NOTICE WHAT TO DEBATE, I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD HANDLE THIS AMENDMENT MUCH LESS INVITING NEW EVIDENCE AT 9 O'CLOCK ON MONDAY NIGHT BEFORE WE MAKE A DECISION THAT HAS JUDICIAL IMPACT. I DON'T THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE AT ALL TO DO THIS AMENDMENT THIS EVENING, MUCH LESS BRING IN ALL KINDS OF NEW THINGS THAT EVERYBODY DOESN'T GET A CHANCE TO RESPOND TO. >>COUN. BENTON: OTHER THOUGHTS ON THIS? >>COUN. BASSAN: I'M WONDERING IF THE ADMINISTRATION WANTS TO ADD IN ANYTHING OR IF THEY HAVE SOMETHING ELSE TO SAY IN REGARD TO THE LEGALITY OF THIS POTENTIAL LEGALITY OF IT. >> COUNCILOR BASSAN, AT THIS POINT WE'VE JUST BEEN HANDED THESE EXHIBITS. WE OBJECT TO THEIR BEING ADMITTED AT TONIGHT'S HEARING. AS FAR AS THE PROPRITY OF PROCEEDINGS, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANYTHING LEGALLY PRECLUDING THIS COUNCIL FROM ENTERTAINING AND CONSIDERING A LEGISLATIVE AMENDMENT TO THE IDO. I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANY LAWFUL REASON THAT WOULD BE PRECLUDED OR THE COUNCIL WOULD BE PROHIBITED. >>COUN. BENTON: THIS AMENDMENT HAS NOT BEEN MOVED OR SECONDED. THIS IS GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. WE HAVE PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE BILL. I'M GOING TO LET THAT PUBLIC COMMENT PROCEED. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >> THIS IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL PROCEEDING. AS SUCH, PARTIES TO IT ARE ENTITLED -- I'M READING OUT OF COURT APPEALS CASE. BERNALILLO COUNTY VERSUS BENAVIDEZ. PEOPLE ARE ENTITLED TO BE HEARD, PRESENT EVIDENCE, AND REBUT EVIDENCE. I MAY HAVE QUESTIONS FOR OTHER WITNESSES TOO. THAT'S ALLOWED IN THIS TYPE OF PROCEEDING. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU YOUR TIME IS UP. >> RENÉ FOLLOWED BY TERRY ON ZOOM. >> HELLO, I'M WITH THE WEST SIDE COALITION. I'M TRYING TO KEEP TRACK OF ALL OF THESE AMENDMENTS. ON THE OVERNIGHT SHELTERS. I KNOW EPC DISCUSSED THIS AND WHAT THEY RECOMMEND IS A CONDITIONAL USE FOR RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS. SO THIS WOULD ALLOW SOME PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. I THOUGHT THAT WAS A GOOD IDEA. AND THEY WERE THINKING OF 3,000 FEET APART FROM EACH OTHER. POSSIBLY THAT MAY BE A GOOD IDEA TOO. AND I LIKE IT'S FULLY ENCLOSED BUILDING. AND THEY WERE RECOMMENDING 10,000 SQUARE FOOT BUILDING VERSUS A 25,000. I DO LIKE THE IDEA THAT YOU ADDED REQUIRE OPERATIONAL PLAN WITH POLICIES AND PROCEDURES AND SECURITY AND CONTACT. AND THE ONLY THING I HAVE THAT I'VE NOTICED IN TOWN THAT REMINDS ME OF THIS ISSER PASTRY SHE DID ENGAGE THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO TALK ABOUT WHAT SHE PLANNED TO DO USING APS BUILDING. IT SEEMS LIKE HE'S RUNNING IT PRETTY GOOD. THE ONLY THING OUTSIDE THE GATE, THERE'S STILL TENT CITIES OUTSIDE IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE WOULDN'T WANT TO ATTRACT THAT. I THINK OVERNIGHT SHELTERS ARE BETTER THAN THE CAMPGROUND. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU, YOU'RE HERE REPRESENTING THE WEST SIDE COALITION TONIGHT? >> WE HAVEN'T TAKEN A VOTE BECAUSE I'M STILL TRYING TO FIGURE THIS OUT. I CAN TELL YOU THAT NEIGHBORHOODS ARE, YOU KNOW, VERY SKEPTICAL. THEY WANT TO KNOW THIS IS A WELL THOUGHT OUT PLAN FOR SHELTERS. AND THESE CAMPGROUNDS. I THINK PEOPLE ARE NERVOUS ABOUT DOING THIS. I'M TRYING TO PROMOTE WHO IS GOING TO DO THIS, IS IT WELL THOUGHT OUT, IS IT ORGANIZED, SO IT'S NOT GOING TO CREATE PROBLEMS. >>COUN. LEWIS: IS THE WEST SIDE COALITION TAKING ANY POSITION ON SUPPORTING GOVERNMENT SANCTIONED TENT ENCAMPMENTS, LIVING LOTS? >> THEY HAVEN'T TAKEN A POSITION BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH. I CAN TELL YOU, LISTENING TO PEOPLE, THEY SAY WE NEED TO DEAL WITH THE HOMELESS. BUT WHAT ARE WE GETTING, WE DON'T WANT PROBLEMS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD. WE WANT IT WELL THOUGHT OUT. I'M JUST SHARING WITH YOU, WE HAVE TO BE REALLY CAREFUL HOW WE DO IT. THAT'S WHY CONDITIONAL INSTEAD OF OUTRIGHT PERMISSIVE. AT LEAST YOU HAVE ENGAGEMENT. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO BRING TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD. I THINK PEOPLE LIKE THE IDEA OF SHELTERS. THAT'S WHAT I HEAR. OR CAMPGROUNDS. AND THAT THEY SHOULD BE SOME PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT AND WELL THOUGHT OUT. THAT'S THE BEST I CAN OFFER. >> OUR NEXT SPEAKER IS TERRY. >> GOOD EVENING, I'M PRESIDENT AND CEO OF A GREATER ALBUQUERQUE CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. WE'RE HERE TO ADVOCATE FOR AN AMENDMENT THAT WOULD ALLOW THE GIBSON MEDICAL CENTER TO BE CONVERTED TO AN OVERNIGHT SHELTER. AND CENTRALIZED HUB FOR HOMELESS SERVICES ON A PERMISSIVE BASIS. INSTEAD OF RELYING ON CONDITIONAL USE PERMITTING. OUR COMMUNITY DESPERATELY NEEDS AND LACKS OVERNIGHT SHELTERING FOR THE HOMELESS. ESPECIALLY FOR SINGLE ADULTS. AND WHAT SPACE THE CITY DOES HAVE IS LOCATED SO FAR AWAY FROM THE CITY ITSELF THAT IT IS DIFFICULT TO ACCESS. THIS MEANS BEDS AT THE WEST SIDE SHELTER ARE LEFT EMPTY. WHILE ALLEY WAYS, OVER PASSES, SIDE WALK AND PARKS SERVE AS OUR CURRENT OVERNIGHT SHELTERING FOR FAR TOO MANY. TO COMBAT THIS, THE CHAMBER SUPPORTS THE INITIAL MAN OF A LARGER SCALE HUB THAT NOT ONLY OFFERS OVERNIGHT SHELTERING FOR THOSE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS BUT HELPS THEM ACCESS SERVICES LIKE I.D. RECOVERY, MEDICAL CARE, AND BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SCREENING. AND FIND TRANSITIONAL AND ULTIMATELY PERMANENT HOUSING. THE AMENDMENT BEFORE YOU TONIGHT WILL ENABLE THE GATEWAY CENTER TO BECOME WHAT IT WAS ALWAYS MEANT TO BE AN OVERNIGHT SHELTER THAT ALSO PROVIDES ACCESS TO SERVICES AND SUPPORT THAT WILL HELP PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS TO RECEIVE SERVICES THEY NEED WITH THE GOAL OF DECREASING OVER TIME A NUMBER OF PEOPLE WHO NEED OVERNIGHT SHELTER. THANK YOU. >> VERA FOLLOWED BY RACHEL. >> YES, THANK YOU. CAN EVERYONE HEAR ME? >> YES. PLEASE PROCEED. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILORS FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO COMMENT TODAY. I'VE LIVED IN DISTRICT SIX WITH MY FAMILY FOR OVER 33 YEARS. I WAS SADDENED AND DISAPPOINTED THAT THE CITY ADMINISTRATION DECIDED AT THIS LATE DAY THEY OFFERS AMENDMENTS TO THE IDO ON THESE TOPICS. OVERNIGHT SHELTERS BEING ONE OF THEM. THE MXH HIGH DENSITY ZONE PROPOSITION TO ALLOW OVERNIGHT SHELTERS REMOVES THE CITIZENS INPUT. WE LIVE HERE TOO. AND THE HOMELESS HAVE COME ALONG WAY AFTER THE 30-PLUS YEARS THAT MANY OF US HAVE BEEN HERE. OUR OWN LOCAL NEWS REPORTS PROVIDE DOCUMENTATION OF THE IMPACTS SURROUNDING SITE FOR THE UNHOUSED. AMONG THEM, ENCAMPMENT, CRIME, TRASH AND HUMAN WASTE, OCCUPATION OF PARK AND PUBLIC SPACES AND A DRAIN ON LOCAL BUSINESSES. THESE ARE ADVERSE IMPACTS TO SURROUNDING NEIGHBORHOODS. THE POINT IS NEIGHBORHOODS NEEDS AN OPPORTUNITY TO RAISE THESE TYPES OF CONCERNS AND WHY IS ONLY MXH BEING SINGLED OUT. IS IT TARGETED AT GATEWAY? IF PERMISSIVE USE IS OKAY FOR MXH WHY ISN'T OKAY FOR MXM OR A COMMERCIAL ZONE? THERE NEEDS TO BE EVIDENCE PRESENTED OF WHY PERMISSIVE USE IS NOT APPROPRIATE FOR SHELTERS. PLEASE DO NOT PASS THIS AMENDMENT. THANK YOU. >> RACHEL FOLLOWED BY ROSEMARY. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, I'M RACHEL, PRESIDENT OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION. I IMPLORE YOU TO VOTE NO TO CHANGE. OVER THE PAST TWO YEARS, I'VE VOLUNTEERED A LOT OF TIME INENERGY AND RALLIED MY NEIGHBORS TO DO THE SAME IN FOLLOWING THE PROCESS OF OBTAINING A CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT AS OUTLINED IN THE IDO FOR OVERNIGHT SHELTERS. IT'S BEEN A DIFFICULT PROCESS BUT WE'RE NOW AT A POINT FOR THE GATEWAY WHERE WE ARE SITTING DOWN WITH THE CITY TO HAMMER OUT A GOOD NEIGHBOR AGREEMENT. THE FACT THE RESIDENTS OF MY NEIGHBORHOOD HAVE BEEN ALLOWED TO HAVE THIS OPPORTUNITY INTO THE STRUCTURE OF GATEWAY AND MONITORING OF IMPACTS GATEWAY CAN BRING TO OUR NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE BEEN CRUCIAL FOR OUR ABILITY TO PROTECT OURSELF AND HOMES. I'M NOT NAIVE, I CAN SEE THIS HAS BEEN AN UNPLEASANT PROCESS FOR THE CITY. THEY WOULD RATHER AVOID IT ON FUTURE PROJECTS AND DERAIL FOR THE GATEWAY PROJECT. AN EASY WAY TO KILL BOTH OF THOSE BIRDS ONE STONE IS REMOVE THE NEIGHBORHOOD REPRESENTATIVES FROM THE TABLE. FRANKLY, IT SHOULDN'T BE EASY TO POTENTIALLY RUIN A NEIGHBORHOOD. WE ARE ALREADY FIGHTING WITH BOTH HANDS TIED BEHIND OUR BACKS SINCE THIS PROCESS IS QUASI-JUDICIAL GIVING OUR COUNCILORS THE OPPORTUNITY TO TURN A DEAF EAR TO CONSTITUENTS WHILE WE LOOK FOR TO LISTEN TO OUR CONCERNS. >> THANK YOU. ROSEMARY. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> YES. PLEASE PROCEED. >> OKAY. I LIVE IN THE NEAR NORTH VALLEY IN DISTRICT TWO. I'M ALSO A MEMBER OF THE ALBUQUERQUE MONTHLY MEETING OF THE RELIGIOUS SOCIETY. KNOWN AS QUAKERS. I'M SPEAKING IN MY INDIVIDUAL CAPACITY BUT WITH ENCOURAGEMENT FROM MY FAITH COMMUNITY. I URGE YOU TO ADOPT THE VARIOUS ENHANCEMENTS OF THE INTEGRATED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE WHICH WOULD ALLOW FOR CREATION AND EQUIPPING OF SAFE OPEN SPACES, OVERNIGHT SHELTERS, LIVING LOTS, AND A COMPENDIUM OF RESOURCES FOR PERSONS EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS. ALBUQUERQUE FRIENDS MEETING HAVE LONG URGED THE CITY TO PRACTICE A PRACTICAL COMPASSIONS FOR ALLOWING SAFE PACE SPACES THAT CAN'T BE SERVED BY HOUSING OPERATIONS OR FEAR USE PARTICULAR SHELTERS. OUR MEETING HAS A WATER SPIGOT THAT WE HAVE BEEN UNWILLING TO REFUSE TO THOSE WHO THIRST. WE HAVE SHADE ON OUR PORCH. WHICH WE HAVE BEEN UNWILLING TO REFUSE DURING THE DAY TIME TO SHARE WITH PERSONS WITHOUT SHELTER. WE HAVE NOT PROVIDED OVERNIGHT HOSPITALITY BECAUSE WE'RE NOT CAPABLE. WE ENGAGE WITH THEM ON A PERSONAL LEVEL AND COME TO KNOW THEM AS YOUR NEIGHBORS. NOW WE FEEL A NEED TO ADVOCATE FOR THEIR HUMANE TREATMENT AND DIGNITY. ALBUQUERQUE FRIENDS MEETING SHARED A LETTER WITH THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. >> THANK YOU, YOUR TIME IS UP. MR. PRESIDENT, THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENT ON AMENDMENT B14. IF YOU LIKE, I CAN CALL FOR THE GENERAL CITYWIDE CHANGES. OUR FIRST SPEAKER WILL BE PATRICIA FOLLOWED BY MS. WARD. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, THE CITY IS ONLY ONE ACTOR IN THE COMMITMENT TO GOOD COMMUNITY PLANNING. COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, INSTITUTIONS, AND INDIVIDUALS ALL HAVE A ROLE TO PLAY. WHAT MAKES A GOOD ZONING SYSTEM? RULES INSURE HIGH QUALITY DEVELOPMENT CITY WIDE. RULES PROTECT SPECIAL SOMEPLACES AND OPEN SPACE. PEOPLE HAVE INPUT ABOUT DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL AFFECT THEM. THE CITY HAS COMMITTED TO CONTINUALLY IMPROVE THE IDO. THE PROCESS HAS THREE STEPS. EPC LUPZ COUNCIL. THESE WORDS ARE DIRECT QUOTE FROM THE CITY WEBSITE. MY WORDS ARE THE PROCESS IS BROKEN. INTRODUCING POLICY CHANGES WITH LITTLE TIME FOR REVIEW IS NOT GOOD GOVERNANCE. I URGE A NO ON O-22-10. THAT WON'T HAPPEN, SO VOTE YES ON THE RED LINE DRAFT AS OF MAY 2nd WITH ALL SUBSEQUENT FLOOR AMENDMENTS BECOMING THE FIRST BATCH OF CHANGES IN THE NEXT UPDATE CYCLE. B13 REMOVAL OF THE DRB REMOVES PUBLIC INPUT FROM THE MORJ OF SITE PLANS. THIS NEEDS TO BE ANALYZED AND VETTED AND PROPOSED IN THE NEXT CYCLE. YOU MAY WAY UNTIL JUNE 22nd THAT WILL HELP YOU CLEAN SOME OF THE PROBLEMS AND YOU'LL PASS O'-22-10. PEOPLE HAVE INPUT ABOUT DEVELOPMENT THAT WILL AFFECT THEM. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> MS. WARD, FOLLOWED BY LARRY. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILORS, PLEASE VOLT NO ON B13. INSTEAD RETURN THE REVIEWS AND APPROVALS PREVIOUSLY UNDER THE EPC TO THE EPC. THERE'S NO NEED TO CREATE AN ENTITY TO FIX THE MREEL PROBLEMS THIS BODY CREATED WHEN APPROVING THE ASPECT OF THE IDO. ON A LIVING LOTS SAVE OPEN SPACE AMENDMENTS, REMINDER THAT THE MAJORITY OF POLL RESPONDENTS OPPOSED THIS CRUSE THROUGHOUT THE CITY. ADEQUATE PROTECTIONS INCLUDE NO PERMISSIVE USE IN ANY ZONE. CONSIDER THE NON-RESIDENTIAL SPECIAL USE ZONE. KEEP OR RESTORE THE ONE CITY BLOCK BUFFER TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS AND ADD APPROPRIATE BUFFERS TO SCHOOLS AND DAY CARE FACILITIES. SECURITY MEASURES SHOULD BE IN PLACE BUT NOT IMPINGE OF RIGHTS OF OCCUPANTS. THE PROPOSED GOVERNMENT I.D. AMENDMENT DOES NOT EXCLUDE CHILDREN AND MANY PEOPLE DON'T HAVE I.D. LOSS OR THEFT. THE NO MISDEMEANOR OR FELONY CHARGE IS OPENLY BROAD AS WRITTEN. SOMEONE CAN BE CHARGED WITH TRESPASSING AND WOULD NOT BE ABLE TO GET INTO THE LEGAL ENCAMPMENTS. AND DISTRICTS HAVE YET TO BE DETERMINED BECAUSE REDISTRICTING WOULDN'T GO INTO EFFECT IN 2023 AND OPERATING SITE COULD FIND ITSELF MOVED FROM AN ALLOWED DISTRICT TO A DISALLOWED DISTRICT. REMEMBER THESE AMENDMENTS NEED TO BE WELL THOUGHT OUT. >> LARRY FOLLOWED BY GENE. >> PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I'M COMING TO YOU AS A 55-YEAR RESIDENT OF ALBUQUERQUE. AND A RETIREEE FROM THE ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT. I HAVE PERSONAL KNOWLEDGE OF THE FACT THAT MULTIPLE PEOPLE INVOLVED WITH THE HOMELESS ISSUE AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO DELAY ANY VOTE ON THE PROPOSED CHANGES IN WHOLE WHAT YOU HAVE ON THE TABLE FOR THE IDO. MENTAL ILLNESS IS A BIG COMPARTMENT OF THE HOMELESS ISSUE. I WENT THROUGH THE ACADEMY WITH CAROL WHO WAS SHOT IN THE HEAD A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO BY SOMEBODY WHO WAS MENTALLY CHALLENGED. I WAS THE COMMANDER ON SCENE OF A TERRIBLE SCENE WHERE RICHARD SMITH AND MIKE KING WERE KILLED BY A MENTALLY CHALLENGED PERSON. WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT MOVING ENCAMPMENTS ALL OVER THE CITY THAT ARE GOING TO MIX PEOPLE THAT HAVE CHEMICAL DEPENDENIES WITH MENTAL ILLNESS AND PEOPLE WHO HAPPEN TO BE HOMELESS JUST BECAUSE OF CIRCUMSTANCES, THAT'S A RECIPE FOR DISASTER. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO GO BACK TO WHAT I SAID EARLIER, AND ALLOW THE POLICE TO DO THEIR JOB WHEN IT COMES TO ENFORING BASIC LAWS THAT PROTECT ALL CITIZENS. AND WE HAVE A LOT OF RESOURCES THAT HAVE BEEN PUT INTO THE FACILITIES, MENTAL HEALTH, AND OTHER HOMELESS CARE TREATMENT THAT SHOULD BE UTILIZED. THANK YOU. >> JANE FOLLOWED BY JOSHUA. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, LAST WEEK I RESPONDED TO A NEXT DOOR POST ABOUT THE STATUS OF THE CITY INITIATIVE ON HOMELESSNESS. I POSTED THE LINK TO THE CITY PLANNING DEPARTMENT IDO PAGE. SEVERAL HOURS LATER THE FOLLOWING WAS POSTED. QUOTE, I DOWN LOADED 108 PAGES OF LEGAL JARGON. YOU HAD TO READ THROUGH WITH A DICTIONARY AND IT WAS NOT MEANT TO BE READ AND UNDERSTOOD. THE PLAN FREQUENTLY SITES PUBLIC ENGAGEMENT. THE NEWLY ENACTED NARO WITH COLLABORATION AND STRONGER -- THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT PRESENTATION INTRODUCING THIS YEAR'S IDO PROCESS NOTED IT AFFECTED ZONING WHERE PEOPLE HAVE INPUT ABOUT THE DEVELOPMENT THAT AFFECTS THEM. IF YOU BELIEVE THESE STATEMENTS OF PRINCIPLE POWER, IF YOU BELIEVE YOUR OWN WORDS IN THE NARO AND BELIEVE THE PROPOSAL. YOU WILL ENSURE THEY'RE UNDERSTANDABLE TO THE PEOPLE OF ALBUQUERQUE. I HAVE OPPOSED THE IDO PROCESS AS I'VE SEEN AT THIS COUNCIL AND AMENDMENT LANGUAGE SUBMITTED TO CPC AND PUBLIC INPUT. >> JOSHUA, FOLLOWED BY LORETTA. >> LORETTA, FOLLOWED BY PEGGY. >> GOOD EVENING, I'M REQUESTING THE CITY COUNCIL VOTE NO ON THE PROPOSED AMENDMENT REPLACEMENT OF THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW BOARD FOR THE FOLLOWING REASONS. ANY DEVELOPMENT IS REQUIRED TO HAVE PUBLIC INPUT. WHY REMOVE IT? THE DEVELOPER REQUIRES GOVERNMENT ASSISTANCE AND SHOULD BE REQUIRED TO GO THROUGH AN OPEN MEETING FOR THE PUBLIC COMMENT. THE CITY PLANNING STAFF NEEDS TO REVIEW THESE RECOMMENDED CHANGES TO THE IDO EXTENSIVELY IN ORDER TO SEE THE FINANCIAL AND ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS OUR CITY HAS AND WILL FACE WITH THE DEVELOPER-ORIENTED DECISION. AND THE TREND OF LESSENING THE INPUT FROM NEIGHBORHOOD REPRESENTATIVES FOR THE LIVABLE HEALTHY NEIGHBORHOODS. THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW BOARD HAS BEEN IN EXISTENCE FOR MANY YEARS THAT ALLOWED ALL THE REQUIRED DEPARTMENTS TO REVIEW PLANS. WHY ARE WE TAKING AWAY THE ONE STOP SHOP FOR ALL THE DEPARTMENTS ARE COMMUNICATING THAT DEAL WITH DEVELOPMENT AND WHICH MORE IMPORTANTLY ALLOWS THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS INPUT. AND WHO ARE MOST IMPACTED BY THESE DECISIONS. THE TAXES THE PUBLIC PAYS REQUIRES THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE TO CONTINUE THE NEIGHBORHOOD LEADERS OR REPRESENTATIVES AN EFFECTIVE PUBLIC PROCESS. SITE PLANS WILL BE DONE ADMINISTRATIVELY BY PLANNING STAFF WITH LIMITED NOTICE AND NO PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME TO SPEAK. >> PEGGY FOLLOWED BY BRADLEY. >> COUNCILORS, I'M ADVOCATING FOR A NO VOTE. DON'T LAUGH. THE PROCESS IS BROKEN. THE ANNUAL UPDATE AMENDMENT PROCESS DOES NOT WORK AS A COLLABORATIVE PUBLIC INFORMATIVE PROCESS FOR CHANGING ZONE CODES. IT'S GONE BEYOND POSSIBILITIES WITH THIS WHOLE CLUSTER YOU ENCOURAGED US TO PARTICIPATE IN TONIGHT. ALTHOUGH, SEEING THE PEOPLE COME OUT ON THE VARIOUS ISSUES THAT SHOULD BE POLICY CHANGES IS VERY ENCOURAGING. THE FACT IS YOU PASSED ALREADY OVER 85 OVER 115 AMENDMENTS SINCE WE STARTED TALKING ABOUT THIS A YEAR AGO. NO ONE KNOWS ABOUT THEM. LESS THAN .01% OF ALBUQUERQUE CAN ACTUALLY TELL YOU WHAT THE ALBUQUERQUE IDO AMENDMENT PROCESS IS ALL ABOUT. YOU NEED MORE INFORMATION ON ISSUES ON POLICY CHANGES. YOU NEED UNINTENDNED CONSEQUENCES SUMMARIZED. YOU NEED A REVIEW OF RISK. YOU NEED A STATEMENT ABOUT EXAMPLES OF THINGS. YOU NEED TO KNOW WHETHER OR NOT THIS IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL ISSUE BEFORE IT GOES INTO THE AMENDMENT PROCESS. VOTE NO ON O-22-10. THIS WILL PROMPT AND ENSURE IMPROVEMENT PROCESS. START OVER AGAIN. GO BACK TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. INSIST ON CHANGES THAT EFFECT OUR STRUCTURES THAT ARE POSITIVE FOR THE COMMUNITY. >> BRADLEY FOLLOWED BY JOHN. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILORS, LONG NIGHT. THE BIBLE TELLS US THAT THE POOR WILL ALWAYS BE WITH US. AND YOU GUYS HAVE A REALLY TOUGH JOB. BECAUSE THERE'S SO MANY THINGS THAT HAVE TO BE DONE. I MEAN, LISTENING TO ALL OF THE ISSUES OF THE POSSIBILITIES OVER THE LAST FEW TIMES I'VE BEEN DOWN HERE. YOU HAVE A REALLY DIFFICULT JOB. LET ME MAKE THIS EASIER FOR YOU. WE HAVE TONIGHT OVER 500 PEOPLE, FELLOW CITIZENS, WHO ARE SLEEPING ON THE STREET. SLEEPING IN A TENT, OR SLEEPING IN THEIR CAR. AND THEY'RE ALL TRESPASSING. I REALLY APPRECIATED WHAT YOU SAID, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, ABOUT THE FACT THAT WE ARE NOT ENFORCING THE LAW. BUT THE PROBLEM, ONE OF THE PROBLEMS IS THAT IN THE NINTH CIRCUIT, WHICH IS ALL THE STATES TO THE WEST OF US, IF YOU ARREST A PERSON FOR TRESPASSING YOU DON'T GIVE THEM A LEGAL ALTERNATIVE WHICH WOULD INCLUDE THEM BEING ABLE TO TAKE THEIR PERSONAL PROPERTY, THEN YOU ARE GOING TO OPEN UP YOURSELF TO A HUGE AMOUNT OF LIABILITY. THAT'S WHAT WAS BEING SAID BY CHIEF MEDINA. SO, WE'RE IN THE 10TH CIRCUIT. AM WHERE DONE? ANYWAY PASS B7 AND B22. THANK YOU. >> YAWN, ? >> JOHN FOLLOWED BY RENÉ. >> RENÉ, FOLLOWED BY PETER. >> HELLO, AGAIN. I DO AGREE WITH SOME OF THE PREVIOUS SPEAKERS THAT THIS IS A VERY DIFFICULT PROCESS FOR YOU GUYS, FOR THE STAFF, AND FOR THE COMMUNITY TRYING TO GO THROUGH ALL THESE AMENDMENTS. I REMEMBER IN THE PAST THE CITY USED TO HAVE MEETINGS, TOWN HALLS, TO TALK ABOUT THESE TOPICS. AND HAVE THE IDEAS THOROUGHLY VETTED BEFORE IT EVEN GOES THROUGH A PROCESS OF APPROVAL AND MAYBE WE NEED TO START THINKING ABOUT HOW CAN WE IMPROVE THE IDO TO MAKE IT A LITTLE EASIER ON OURSELF. I KNOW THESE ARE DIFFICULT ISSUES. I'LL JUST SAY THERE'S ZONING AND SOCIAL ISSUES. ON THE ZONING, I AGREE, I HATE SEE THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW BOARD REMOVED. LIKE I SAID BEFORE, I THINK THEY'RE WORKING VERY WELL. THEY HAVE EXPERTISE. THEY'RE ACTING PROFESSIONAL. THEY LISTEN. I APPRECIATE THEM LISTENING TO BOTH SIDES OF THE AISLE. AND LET'S KEEP -- IF WE NEED TO ADDRESS IT MAYBE AT THE NEXT IDO CYCLE, IF THERE'S SOME ISSUE ABOUT IT THAT WE NEED TO ADDRESS. AND THEN ON THE -- I'M STILL WORRIED ABOUT THE PARKING ISSUE. I HOPE WE CAN FIX IT BECAUSE I HAVE PROBLEMS ON THE WEST SIDE. I DON'T HAVE TIME IN TWO MINUTES TO TALK ABOUT IT. SOME SHOPPING CENTERS ARE CROWDED WITH -- THEY DON'T PLAN OUT THE USES VERY WELL. THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES ARE -- JUST REAL QUICK, THEY SHOULD BE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. THE LOCATION IS REALLY CRITICAL. >> PETER, FOLLOWED BY RHINNAON. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILORS, I'M USING YOUR ITEM PROPOSAL FROM FEBRUARY. IN IT, IT TALKS ABOUT FISCAL IMPACT ANALYSIS. IT ALSO TALKS ABOUT COMMENTS ON MONETARY IMPACTS. PLEASE MAKE SURE YOU READ THIS. IT SAYS THESE AMENDMENTS WOULD MAKE LAND REDEVELOPMENT MORE TRANSPARENT. BY CHANGING TO CONDITIONAL USE YOU'RE DOING THE OPPOSITE. THE THREE PEOPLE WHO SIGNED THIS, IT'S NOW AN ERROR AND NO LONGER VALID. PERMISSIVE RATHER THAN CONDITIONAL TAKES AWAY LIMITED TRANSPARENCY. I'M FROM THE PARKLAND HILLS NEIGHBORHOOD. WE DO SUPPORT SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES BUT WITH A LIMITATION OF TWO IN EVERY CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT. ALSO DO NOT EXCLUDE RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATIONS FROM BEING A MAJOR PROVIDER OF HOUSING FOR THE UNHOUSED. AND LEGALLY, MAKE SURE YOU'RE READING RIPA, BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT YOUR PLANNING DEPARTMENT IS TELLING YOU ABOUT. YOU CAN PUT LIMITATIONS ON IT. IT DOES HAVE LIMITATIONS BUT YOU CAN PUT LIMITATIONS IN A QUANTITY NUMBER AND APPLY FOR CITY COUNCIL DISTRICTS. AND WE DESPERATELY NEED THESE LIVING LOTS. AT ONE OF THE HOMELESS MEETINGS THERE'S A PROVIDER TALKING TO A WOMAN WHO HAD TO SLEEP IN HER CAR OR GO BACK TO ABUSER HUSBAND. THEY HAD NO PLACE TO PUT HER. THANK YOU. >> RHIANNON FOLLOWED BY BRETT. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I'M WITH THE COMMERCIAL REAL ESTATE DEVELOPMENT ASSOCIATION. I TALKED ABOUT A DIFFERENT AMENDMENT IN THE PACTAGE IN FRONT OF YOU. THIS EVENING I WANT TO SPEND TIME ON A FEW. I WON'T BELABOR THE POINT ON THE OTHERS. WE'RE IN SUPPORT OF B13 AND B21 BECAUSE AS WE KNOW THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW BOARD IS NOT WORKING AS IT'S CURRENTLY STANDING. IT'S ACTING IN A QUASI-JUDICIAL MANNER AND IT NEEDS FIXING. THIS IS A SOLUTION TO GET TO THE FIXES WE NEED TO HAPPEN WITH THAT DEVELOPMENT REVIEW PROCESS. ADDITIONALLY ON B29 AN ISSUE WE'VE AURLGD ALREADY TALKED. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THESE REALLY BIG COMPLEX SOCIAL ISSUES. THIS IS ANOTHER OPTION FOR US TO GET RESIDENTIAL UNITS ON THE MARKET AND WE SHOULD NOT PROHIBIT THAT FOR OURSELF. FINALLY, AS WE'VE ALREADY HEARD FROM LOT OF DISCUSSION, THERE'S STILL A LOT OF CONFLICT BETWEEN SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES AND LIVING LOTS AND ALL THE NUANCES. THERE'S LOTS OF CONTRADICTS COMING UP TONIGHT. WE ARE OF THE BELIEF, OUR ASSOCIATION, IT SHOULD BE TAKEN OUT OF THE OVERALL PACKAGE TO BE DISCUSSED INDEPENDENTLY SO WE CAN REACH SOME CONSENSUS. I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S CONAS SOON AS S ON THE COUNCIL. THANK YOU FOR OUR TIME AND HARD WORK ON THIS. THIS IS A LOT OF HARD WORK. >> BRETT FOLLOWED BY MICHAEL ON ZOOM. >> GOOD EVENING, MR. PRESIDENT, I JUST WANT TO THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. I'M A HOMEOWNER AND RESIDENT IN DISTRICT ONE. I'M HERE TO ASK YOU TO OPPOSE THE PROPOSAL TO ESTABLISH HOMELESS ENCAMPMENTS. I SPOKE WITH NEIGHBORS AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMUNITY AND EVERYONE I SPOKE ABOUT THIS STRONGLY OPPOSES IT. I KNOW MANY OF YOU RECEIVED PHONE CALLS NOT TO SUPPORT THIS ISSUE. I'M ASKING YOU TO LISTEN TO THE COMMUNITY, THE PEOPLE THAT VOTED YOU INTO OFFICE AND VOTE NO. WE SEE WHAT IT DOES TO OUR CITY. WE KNOW IT BRINGS DRUGS, CRIME, LOWER PROPERTY VALUES, COSTS TAXPAYERS MONEY. I LIKE TO SUGGEST TWO THINGS. IF THIS IS PASSED, THEY ONLY BE IN THE CITY COUNCIL'S VOTING FOR IT. AND THE OTHER OPTION IS PUT IT ON THE BALLOT AND LET THEME DECIDE. I THANK COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, COUNCILOR LEWIS, AND COUNCILOR GROUT FOR LISTENING TO THE CONSTITUENTS AND REPRESENTING THEM. I WANT TO REMIND YOU ALL YOU WERE VOTED IN BY THE PEOPLE OF THE CITY TO REPRESENT THEM, IF YOU IGNORE THE VOICES OF THE COMMUNITY, THEY CAN ALSO VOTE YOU OUT. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. >> MICHAEL, FOLLOWED BY DONALD. >> THANK YOU, VERY MUCH. I'M HEAD OF THE EAST GATEWAY COALITION. AND ALSO THE INTERCOALITION. AND I WANT TO SAY THAT I'M ASKING YOU TO VOTE IN OPPOSITION TO O-22-10. FOLLOW MAJOR POLICIES ISSUES ARE BEING DISCUSSED AT ALMOST 10 O'CLOCK. AND MANY HAVE ISSUES THAT HAVE NOT BEEN RESOLVED. AND MANY OF THE ISSUES SHOULD BE TREATED AS SEPARATE POLICY AND NOT BE TREATED AS AN AMENDMENT TO O-22-10 TO THE IDO ORDINANCE. ALSO B14, THE DRB IS NOT BROKEN. AS FAR AS I CAN TELL. AND IF WE NEED TO HAVE A FIX FOR IT, AND IT SOUNDS LIKE WE NEED TO, PLEASE REMEMBER THAT THE PROPOSED ACTION IS THAT PUBLIC WOULD HAVE NO APPROVAL OF SITE PLANS. THAT'S NO APPROVAL OF SITE PLANS. NO INPUT. A REAL LACK OF TRANSPARENCY. NO ACTION NEEDS TO BE TAKEN TONIGHT ON THE DRB BILL AND THAT IS B13. AGAIN, WE STAND READY TO ASSIST YOU IN COMING UP WITH ANYTHING AND ANY INFORMATION WE CAN HELP YOU WITH AS YOU DESIGN A NEW SYSTEM FOR THE DRB PROCESS. AGAIN, THE WAY THIS IS DESIGNED, IT WOULD BE NO APPROVAL OF SITE PLANS OPEN TO THE GENERAL PUBLIC TO PARTICIPATE IN PUBLIC MEETINGS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> DONALD, FOLLOWED BY TERRY. >> YOU ARE MUTED. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILORS, OBVIOUSLY OUR CITY HAS A VERY SERIOUS PROBLEM INVOLVING HOMELESS PERSONS. VARIOUS ATTEMPTS HAVE BEEN MADE TO ADDRESS THE SOCIAL ISSUES. THE NEXT ATTEMPT TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE VIA SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE WHICH MAY OR MAY NOT INCLUDE MAJOR PUBLIC OPEN SPACE MUST BE PROCEEDED WITH AN ASSESSMENT OF AVAILABLE AREAS, EXISTING RULES, NEEDS OF ALL THE ENTITIES INVOLVED, AND NECESSARY PROCESSES PER IMPLEMENTATION. OBVIOUSLY THERE ARE EXISTING LAWS REGULATIONS AND ZONING THAT MUST BE EITHER MET, OR ADDRESSED. SINCE AND MANY OF US CAN RELATE BETTER TO A VISUAL REPRESENTATION OF AN ISSUE, I'VE CONSTRUCTED A DIAGRAM -- TO DEPICT THE SITUATION. WE HAVE THREE COMPONENTS. HOMELESS, CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE, AND PROPERTY OWNERS EACH DEPICTED BY A CIRCLE REPRESENTING THE NEEDS, RULES THAT EACH FEEL THEY NEED. IT'S ONLY WHERE THESE THREE CIRCLES COINCIDE, THE SMALL SHADED AREA THAT THE SATISFACTION OF ALL PARTIES CAN BE ACHIEVED. I DO NOT BELIEVE THAT THIS IS CURRENTLY POSSIBLE. AND I MUST ADD IN COUNTER PRODUCTIVE FOR CERTAIN AREAS OF THE CITY TO BE DECLARED OFF LIMITS TO BE POSSIBILITY OF BEING INCLUDED IN THIS PROCESS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR ATTENTION. PLEASE VOTE NO. >> LARRY, FOLLOWED BY TERRY. MS. COAL, ARE YOU THERE? MOVE TO KAREN. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILORS, I SUPPORT THE LIVING LOTS AMENDMENT. LIVING LOTS IS A FAST TRACK COMMON SENSE ALTERNATIVE TO THE STATUS QUO. FIRST STEP MEASURES TO PROVIDE BASIC SANITATION AND ACCESS FOR ACS AND HOMELESS SERVICES OUTREACH STAFF TO BE ABLE TO BUILD RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE RESIDENTS SO THEY CAN MOVE TO THE NEXT STEP OF TRANSITIONAL HOUSING. LIVING LOTS WILL HELP MANY PEOPLE IMMEDIATELY WHILE THE MORE STRUCTURED SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES ARE DEVELOPED AND WOULD INCLUDE PEOPLE LIVING IN VEHICLES WHO ARE AT RISK OF BEING TICKETED WHERE THEY HAVE TO PARK. IT SHOULD NOT BE REZAUFRBLED IN CRIMINALIZING HOMELESS FOR THOSE WHO CHOOSE NOT TO LIVE TO A LIVING LOT. THEY'RE AN ALTERNATIVE FOR THOSE WHO WANT TO MOVE FROM OTHER PUBLIC SPACES, AND THAT WOULD BE A LOT OF PEOPLE. REGARDING B23, SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE CRIMINAL HISTORY. PLEASE VOTE NO ON THAT. IT'S AN UNNECESSARY BARRIER AND IRONIC SINCE SOME OF THE MOST COMMON CHARGES INCLUDE BLOCKING A PUBLIC SIDEWALK, CAMPING IN AN OPEN SPACE AND CRIMINAL TRESPASS FOR SLEEPING NEXT TO A BUILDING. THESE CHARGES CAN BE REFERRED TO THE BERNALILLO COUNTY OUTREACH COURT. WHERE THE INDIVIDUAL WHO WORKS WITH A CASE MANAGER CAN HAVE THE LEGAL BARRIER OF MINOR MISDEMEANOR CHARGES RESOLVED. IF B23 PASSES OUTREACH COURT PARTICIPANTS WILL BE KEPT OUT OF SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. REGARDING B24 IDENTIFICATION, PLEASE VOTE NO. IT ASSUMES INCORRECTLY THAT MOST OF THE PEOPLE CAMPING OUTSIDE HAVE A GOVERNMENT ISSUED I. D. >> YOUR TIME IS UP. >> THANK YOU. >> ROSEMARY, FOLLOWED BY GARY. >> HELLO, I GUESS I THOUGHT I ALREADY SPOKEN. I'M CERTAINLY WILLING TO CONTINUE MY REMARKS. I WASN'T AWARE THERE WERE TWO DIFFERENT STATEMENTS. WHAT I WOULD URGE THE CITY TO ALLOW A SUPPORTIVE SAFE OPEN SPACE LIVING LOTS, OVERNIGHT SHELTER AND A COMPLEX OF RESOURCE AND OPTIONS FOR THE UNHOUSED AND HOUSING. PEOPLE WITHOUT HOUSING WHEN DEPRIVED WITHOUT SLEEP ARE MUCH MORE LIKELY TO ENGAGE IN ANTI- SOCIAL ACTIVITY AND SPREAD INFECTION. THESE CONSEQUENCES FLOW FROM THE HARSH REALIIES OF BEING OUTCAST. A LITTLE COMPASSION WILL NOT BREAK THE CITY BUDGET. THE COST OF SUPPLYING DRINKING WATER, PORTABLE TOILET AND IDENTIFYING ADKWKT SPACES WITHIN SPACES ARE ALLOWED TO SET UP A CAMP SITE SHOULD BE MINIMAL PARTICULARLY WHEN COMPARED WITH THE COST OF LEAVING THE SITUATION AS IT IS NOW. WHERE PEOPLE CAMP IN UNSAFE OPEN SPACES SUCH AS SIDEWALKS AND BETWEEN THE BARRIERS LONG THE INTERSTATE. IN ADDITION, THE IMPACT OF SLEEP AND LACK OF ACCESS TO WATER AND SANITATION ON THE SUFFERING OF OUR UNSHELTERED POPULATION, THERE'S ALWAYS A SPIRITUAL COST IN FLICTED CITY EMPLOYEES AND BY YOURSELVES. CAUSED BY HAVING TO ENFORCE A DICTATE THAT CREATES THIS AVOIDABLE FORM OF HARASSMENT TO OUR MOST VULNERABLE CITIZENS. RATHER THAN TRYING TO MAKE OUR CITY SAFE FOR SUM -- PLEASE MAKE SAFE FOR ALL. THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH. >> LAST CALL FOR TERRY COAL. ARE YOU THERE? MR. PRESIDENT, THAT WILL CONCLUDE PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'LL MOVE TO MS. SHULTZ. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, THANK YOU. I'LL BE GIVING A BRIEF PRESENTATION. I WILL REVIEW THE PROCESS TO DATE AND I DO HAVE A SLIDE FOR AMENDMENTS. I WILL GIVE FACTUAL ANALYSIS ABOUT EACH OF THE AMENDMENTS. AND OPEN IT FROM DISCUSSION ON THOSE IN BETWEEN EACH OF THE B AMENDMENTS THAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET BEFORE YOU. AGAIN, THE TIMELINE OF THE 2021 ANNUAL UPDATE BEGAN IN FALL OF LAST YEAR. THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT DISTRIBUTED AMENDMENTS TO THE PUBLIC FOR THEIR REVIEW. AFTER THAT DISTRIBUTION, THEY HELD PUBLIC MEETINGS TO GET INPUT AND ANSWER QUESTIONS ON THOSE AMENDMENTS. THAT WAS IN OCTOBER 2021. IN DECEMBER 2021 THE EPC HELD HEARING ON PROPOSED AMENDMENTS THAT WAS PUBLIC HEARING. IT WAS AN ALL-DAY EVENT THAT BOARD TOOK PUBLIC COMMENT DELIBERATED ON MANY OF THE AMENDMENTS AND ULTIMATELY MADE A RECOMMENDATION UP TO THE FULL COUNCIL. FEBRUARY OF 2022, COUNCIL RECEIVED THAT RECOMMENDATION AND THAT WAS FORMALLY INTRODUCED AS LEGISLATION. IN MARCH THE LAND USE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE TO BE A STAB AT 0-22-10. LASTLY, HERE WE ARE IN SPRING/SUMMER OF 2022 FOR THE FULL COUNCIL DELIBERATING THE PACT AS A WHOLE. THE EPC CONSIDERED TWO BILLS THAT HAVE BEEN ROLLED INTO O-22-10. TWO SUBMITTALS. ONE THEM RELATES TO OLD TOWN HISTORIC PROTECTION DISTRICT AND CANNABIS USE WITHIN THAT AREA. AND REST OF THE AMENDMENTS ARE CITYWIDE AND AFFECT ALL ZONING DISTRICTS ACROSS THE CITY. I WILL BRIEFLY REVIEW THE OLD TOWN CHANGES AND THE HISTORIC PROTECTION OVERLAY ZONE. YOU SHOULD SEE A MAP WITH THE BLUE BOUNDARY. THAT'S THE OLD TOWN HPO. PROPOSED TO PROHIBIT THE FOLLOWING USES IN THE HPO. THAT'S CANNABIS RETAIL, CANNABIS CULTIVATION AND CANNABIS PRODUCTS MANUFACTURING. THE EPC HEARD SUPPORT FOR THIS PROPOSAL FROM FOLKS WHO LIVE AND ENJOY OLD TOWN. HENCE, THE RECOMMENDATION OF APPROVAL UP TO THE COUNCIL. THERE WERE 75 OTHER CHJZ NOT RELATED TO HPO OR OLD TOWN. THE CITYWIDE CHANGES THAT THE EPC CONSIDERED. MOST OF THE CHANGES DID NOT GENERATE DISCUSSION AT THE EPC LEVEL EXCEPT FOR TWO TOPICS. ONE RELATED TO OVERNIGHT SHELTERS IN THE MXM AND H ZONE DISTRICTERS. THE EPC RECOMMENDED THAT THOSE BECOME CONDITIONAL IN THE MXM ZONE DISTRICT AND STAY CONDITIONAL IN THE MXH. WE'LL DISCUSS THAT LATER VIA AMENDMENT B14. AND THE OTHER MUCH DISCUSSED TOPIC RELATED TO TALLER WALLS IN THE FRONT STREET SET BACK. THE EPC SAYS YOU SHOULD NOT APPROVE THAT. THERE'S NOTHING IN THAT LEGISLATION RELATE TODAY THE TOPIC. OTHER THAN THAT THE EPC RECOMMENDED THE CHANGES AS RECOMMENDED TO BE APPROVED. AS I MENTIONED AT THE BEGINNING OF OUR PRESENTATION, THE FIRST MEETING WAS MARCH 16. COUNCIL STAFF GAVE PRESENTATION AND COMMENT ON PROPOSED AMENDMENT. ON MARCH 30 SOME AMENDMENTS WERE VOTED ON THIS PRESENTATION WILL BE LOADED TO THE WEBSITE HOPEFULLY TOMORROW WHERE YOU ACCESS HYPERLINKS TO GET TO SUMMARY LINKS. AND FINAL HEARING WAS ON APRIL 13th WHERE PRESENTATION, PUBLIC COMMENT AND MORE AMENDMENTS WERE PASSED BY THE COMMITTEE. AND THE COMMITTEE DID MOVE THE BILL OUT AND RECOMMEND APPROVAL OF THE FULL COUNCIL AT THAT APRIL 13th MEETING. THAT BROUGHT US TO THE FULL CITY COUNCIL PROCESS. THIS BODY HAD THE FIRST HEARING ON MAY 2nd. THE COUNCIL PASSED ONLY FOUR AMENDMENTS. HAD A PRETTY LENGTHY DISCUSSION ON A VARIETY OF TOPICS. BUT DEFERRED THE ITEM. IT WAS DEFERRED UNTIL MAY 16th. AT WHICH IT WAS DEFERRED AGAIN. THAT TOOK US TO THE HEARING TONIGHT ON JUNE 6th. OKAY, WE'RE GOING TO GET INTO THE 19 PROPOSED AMENDMENTS FOR THIS EVENING. COUNCILORS, YOU HAVE A PACKET IN FRONT OF YOU THAT HAS TABS WITH EACH OF THE B NUMBERS OF THE AMENDMENTS. AND A GREEN COVER PAGE. PLEASE NOTE THAT THE ORDER THAT YOUR PACKET IS IN IS NOT THE ORDER WE WILL BE GOING IN. THE AMENDMENTERIZE TABBED, SO YOU SHOULD QUICKLY FLIP TO THE B NUMBER YOU NEED. STAFF THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BETTER TO GROUP THEM TOGETHER. I HOPE THAT REMAINS THE EASIEST PATH FORWARD. WE'RE GOING TO DISCUSS NON-SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE AMENDMENTS AND WE'LL SAVE THE FUN STUFF FOR THE END. THE FIRST AMENDMENT IS AMENDMENT B11 RELATE TODAY CANNABIS PROVISION CITYWIDE. THIS IS NOT RELATE TODAY THE OLD TOWN HPO5. THERE'S THREE CHANGES PROPOSED. ONE, IT WOULD REQUIRE THAT IF THERE'S TO BE ON-SITE CONSUMPTION OF CANNABIS AND IT WILL BE CONSUMED VIA VAPORIZING OR SMOKING IT MUST OCCUR WITHIN A FULLY ENCLOSED PORTION OF A BUILDING. YOU CAN'T HAVE A SMOKING PATIO. YOU CAN EAT CANNABIS, BUT NOT SMOKE OR VAPORIZE IT. SECOND THIS AMENDMENT WOULD LIMIT CANNABIS RETAIL IN THE MXT ZONE DISTRICT. AND LASTLY IT WOULD REQUIRE IF AN APPLICANT IS WANTING TO DO A CANNABIS CULTIVATION USE OR DERIVED PRODUCT MAN FACT CHARRING USE THEY NEED TO PROVIDE A LETTER OF AVAILABILITY FROM THE ALBUQUERQUE BERNALILLO COUNTY WATER UTILITY AUTHORITY TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT AT THE TIME OF APPLICATION. COUNCILORS, I'LL STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS ON B11. >>COUN. BENTON: ANY QUESTIONS ON B11? I BELIEVE THAT'S COUNCILOR JONES'S AMENDMENT. WOULD YOU LIKE TO MOVE THAT AMENDMENT? >>COUN. JONES: I WOULD THERE -- I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE FOR A DUE PASS. >>COUN. BENTON: MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. ANY DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVORER SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? [ INAUDIBLE ]. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. THE NEXT AMENDMENT WE WILL BE DISCUSSING IS B13, REPLACEMENT OF THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW BOARD. THIS AMENDMENT HAS A 60-PAGE EXHIBIT THAT SHOWS THE IN-TEXT CHANGES THAT WOULD OCCUR IN THE INTEGRATED DEVELOPMENT ORDINANCE IF THE REVIEW BOARED IS REMOVED AND REPLACED WITH A THIRD PARTY INDEPENDENT HEARING OFFICER THAT WE'RE CALLING THE DEVELOPMENT HEARING OFFICER. I'LL HIGHLIGHT OF THE FACTS ON MY SLIDE. THE EXISTING STAFF MEMBERS WHO ARE ALL CITY STAFF MEMBERS NOW WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT THAT DEVELOPMENT HEARING OFFICER IN THE EXPERTISE THEY'RE THERE FOR. WHETHER IT'S TRANSPORTATION, HYDROLOGY DRAINAGE. THEY WILL HAVE AN IMPORTANT ROLE UNDER THE DHO. THE DECISION THAT THE DRB MAKES TODAY WILL BE REVIEW BY THE DHO OR ADMINISTRATIVELY. AND WHERE THOSE BUCKETS FALL CAN BE FOUND IN THE 68 PAGE EXHIBIT. THERE HAVE BEEN A COUPLE OF CHANGES TO THIS AMENDMENT SINCE WE FIRST TALKED ABOUT IT ON MAY 2nd. THE FIRST IS THAT WE WERE PROPOSING TO GIVE THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT THREE MONTHS TO MAKE THIS SIGNIFICANT TRANSITION FROM THE DRB TO DHO. THAT'S EXTENDED TO SIX MONTHS TO ALLOW MORE TIME FOR THE TRANSITION. SECOND, THE DEVELOPMENT HEARING OFFICER THAT DHO POSITION WOULD NEED TO BE CONFIRMED BY THE COUNCIL. THE ADMINISTRATION SELECTS THAT PERSON AND THAT SELECTION COMES BEFORE THE COUNCIL AS EXECUTIVE COMMUNICATION FOR ADVICE AND CONSENT, WITH SITE PLAN DRB MOVING TO A SITE PLAN PROCESS, THE PRESUBMITTED NEIGHBORHOOD MEETINGS GO AHEAD. WHAT THIS PROPOSES IS IF A SITE PLAN ADMIN FOR EITHER MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT OVER 100 UNITS OR COMMERCIAL DEVELOPMENT OVER 50,000 SQUARE FEET IS BEING PROPOSED THE APPLICANT NEEDS TO TALK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION PRIOR TO SUBMITTING AN APPLICATION. THERE'S A NEW REQUIREMENT THAT FOR ADMINISTRATIVE DECISIONS A NOTICE OF DECISION NEEDS TO BE ISSUED BY THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. THAT'S NOT PRACTICED TODAY FOR ADMINISTRATIVE DECISIONS BUT IT WOULD BE MOVING FORWARD UNDER THIS NEW WAY. I STAND FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >>COUN. BENTON: QUESTIONS ON B13? COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE -- WHEN WE WENT OVER THE BRIEFING, DOES THIS HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH DUE PROCESS? DUE PROCESS WE TALKED ABOUT DURING OUR BRIEFING. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, THE WAY THAT THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW BOARD OPERATES DOES PROVIDE SOME PROBLEMATIC PROCEDURAL ISSUES THAT WOULD BE REMEDIED BY HAVING A THIRD PARTY INDEPENDENT REVIEWER OF THESE CASES THAT WOULD BE SOMEONE WHO IS NOT A CITY STAFF MEMBER, SOMEONE MAKING A DECISION INDEPENDENT OF BEING THE FOLK WHOSE REVIEW THE CASE AS WELL. THE WAY THE DRB OPERATES TODAY IT'S THOSE STAFF MEMBERS WHO ARE REVIEWING AND ANALYZING THE REQUEST AND THE DECISION. THERE'S NOT OTHER DEVELOPMENT HEARING BODY WHETHER IT'S THE EPC OR DHE. THIS BRINGS THOSE TYPES OF DECISIONS MORE ALIGNED WITH HOW WE TREAT DEVELOPMENT REQUEST. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I WAS WONDERING IF WE CAN HEAR FROM DIRECTOR VARELA. WE HEARD FROM HIM BEFORE THE CHANGES. I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR IF THESE REALLY FIX THE ISSUES HE IDENTIFIED EARLIER. >> COUNCILOR BENTON, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, WE GREATLY APPRECIATE THE SIX-MONTH LEAD UP TIME ON THIS SO WE CAN GET SOMEBODY ON BOARD. THAT IS GOING TO BE NOT A SIMPLE TASK IN THIS DAY AND AGE. IT'S SOMEBODY WITH CERTAIN QUALIFICATIONS. WE DID HAVE SOME HESITANCY WITH THE CONFIRMATION BY CITY COUNCIL REQUIREMENT. AS WE THOUGHT ABOUT IT, WE SAID YOU MAY AS WELL SHARE IN OUR EXPERIENCE OF TRYING TO FIND A QUALIFIED PERSON. HOPEFULLY THAT WILL MEAN WE ALL ARE OUT THERE TRYING TO RECRUIT THE RIGHT PERSON OR PERSONS TO HELP US WITH THIS. I WAS VERY HAPPY THAT THE SUGGESTION THAT THE DEPARTMENT WAS ACTED ON TO BUILD BACK IN SOME VOICE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATIONS THROUGH THE PROCESS OF THEM BEING ABLE TO HAVE POST-SUBMITTED SO THEY CAN BE HEARD AS THEY WERE TO SOME DEGREE, NOT THE SAME 10THS AS DRB. I THINK THIS IS WORKABLE. WE LOOK FORWARD TO IMPLEMENTING IT. I AGREE WITH WHAT MS. SHULTZ SAID THAT THIS SHOULD CLEAR UP A LOT OF QUESTIONS REGARDING EX-PARTE COMMUNICATIONS WHERE YOU HAVE STAFF MEMBERS LOOKING AT AN APPLICATION, GUIDON APPLICANT THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS AND SITTING THERE AS THE JUDGE TO DETERMINE WHETHER OR NOT THAT APPLICATION IS APPROVED OR NOT. WE MAKE THAT MORE TO ANALOGOUS TO WHAT WE'RE DOING ZHE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. >>COUN. BENTON: QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: I MOVE B13. >>COUN. BENTON: I THINK THIS WOULD BE NUMBER TWO. THERE'S A MOTION AND I'LL SECOND THAT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT, ALL THOSE IN FAVORER SAY YES ANDRIES YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES ON AN 8-1 VOTE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, BEFORE WE DIVE INTO B14. I ASK YOU SWEAR IN ANY CITY STAFF THAT ARE GOING TO SPEAK. THIS IS A QUASI-JUDICIAL ITEM. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I'M NOT GOING TO MOVE THIS AMENDMENT. WE MIGHT BE ABLE TO SAVE A LITTLE TIME IF WE WANT TO SKIP IT. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S NOT AN INTENTION TO MOVE B14. WE'LL MOVE ON TO B21. >> MR. PRESIDENT, AMENDMENT B21 TITLED APPLICATION DECISION REQUIREMENT WOULD ADD A NEW REQUIREMENT TO THE IDO THAT WHEN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT RECEIVES AN APPLICATION FOR ADMINISTRATIVE LEVEL DECISION FOR A DEVELOPMENT HEARING OFFICER LEVEL DECISION AS DETERMINED BY TABLE 611 IN THE DOCUMENT, THAT THE DEPARTMENT MUST ISSUE A DECISION NO LATER THAN 60 DAYS AFTER THAT APPLICATION IS RECEIVED. IN THE INSTANCE OF AN ADMINISTRATIVE DECISION, IF THAT 60-DAY REQUIREMENT CANNOT BE MET THAN THE DEPARTMENT WOULD BE REQUIRED TO SEND THAT APPLICATION TO A THIRD PARTY REVIEW SERVICE FOR THEM TO MAKE A DETERMINATION IN A TIMELY MANNER. >>COUN. BENTON: ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS B21 WHICH WOULD BE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE, IF MOVED. >>COUN. PEÑA: I MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE. >>COUN. BENTON: SECOND. AND -- >> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR BENTON, SPONSOR, AND COUNCILORS, WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THE ASPIRATIONAL GOAL HERE. OF TRYING TO MAKE THESE DECISIONS WITHIN 60 DAYS. IT SIMPLY IS NOT A WORKABLE PLAN. FORTUNATELY, WHEN I WAS HERE A LITTLE OVER MONT AGO YOU PROVIDED QUITE A FEW RESOURCES FOR THIS PROCESS. MORE ENGINEERS, PLANNERS, NAV GATORS. THAT GET OF RESOURCES NEEDS TO BE IMPLEMENTED TO SPEED UP THE PROCESS NATURALLY. IT ISN'T AS IF WE HAVE ENGINEERS SITTING AROUND TO REVIEW COMPLICATED APPLICATIONS ON DRAIN PLANS. WE'LL HAVE MORE STAFF COMING IN TO HELP WITH THAT. SETTING ON A QUASI-JUDICIAL DEADLINE IS COUNTER-PRODUCTIVE. WHAT WILL HAPPEN IS DECISIONS WILL BE ROUGE -- RUSHED AND THEY WILL BE DENIED. PEOPLE AREN'T GOING TO STICK THEIR NECK OUT AND TAKE THE RISK. WE HAVE ENGINEERS THAT ARE STILL HAVING DISPUTES REGARDING CALCULATIONS THAT HAVE TO BE MADE. WE CERTAINLY APPRECIATE THIS AS ASPIRATIONAL. IT IS NOT WORKABLE. WE WOULD RESPECTFULLY ASK THAT THE RESOURCES THAT WE'VE BEEN GIVEN BE ALLOWED A CHANCE TO WORK. ESPECIALLY WHEN YOU COMBINE THIS WITH OTHER RADICAL CHANGE, THE BIGGEST ONE IN IDO'S HISTORY OF ELIMINATING DRB AND GOING TO A HEARING OFFICER. WE HAVE TO GIVE THOSE A CHANCE. WE'RE ON THE RIGHT PATH. KEEP IN MIND WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE DECISIONS ISSUED WITHIN 60 DAYS. IT SIMPLY WOULD NOT BE SOMETHING THAT COULD BE FORCED. I THINK THIS WOULD BACKFIRE. WE ASK THAT THIS BE CONSIDERED DOWN THE ROAD AFTER THIS EXPERIMENT HAS BEEN TRIED AND WE HAVE ACTUAL DATA. >>COUN. PEÑA: I'LL WITHDRAW THE AMENDMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: THAT AMENDMENT IS WITHDRAWN. IT WAS MOVED AND SECONDED. >> MR. PRESIDENT, IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED BUT NOT VOTED ON. IF THE MOVER AND SECONDER AGREE TO WITHDRAW THE MOTION AND THE SECOND THAT'S ALL YOU NEED. >>COUN. BENTON: OKAY THEN WE'LL GO TO NUMBER FOUR. OKAY. >> OKAY. MR. PRESIDENT, WE ARE NOW DISCUSSING AMENDMENT B27 TITLED DISTANCE SEPARATION FOR LIGHT VEHICLE REPAIR. THIS ADDS FOR LIGHT VEHICLE REPAIR USES BE NO CLOSER THAN 330 FEET TO ANOTHER LIGHT VEHICLE REPAIR LANDING. >>COUN. BENTON: THIS WOULD BE NUMBER FOUR. THIS IS ALSO COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: I THINK ACTUALLY AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE, IS THAT CORRECT? IT'S FOUR. SORRY ABOUT THAT. I'M NOT SURE WHETHER THERE'S A DESIRE FROM THE COUNCIL TO PASS THIS ONE. I THINK I'LL MOVE IT ANYWAY. THERE'S COMMUNITY MEMBERS THAT REACHED OUT TO ME LETTING ANY KNOW IN A PARTICULAR AREA THERE'S LIKE 12 OR 13 TIRE SHOPS ALMOST RIGHT NEXT TO EACH OTHER RIGHT NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL AREA. I SAID I WOULD MOVE THIS AMENDMENT. I'M MOVING THE AMENDMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. ANY DISCUSSION? >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. COUNCILOR PEÑA, EVEN THOUGH I UNDERSTAND IT SEEMS LIKE WE WANT TO PREVENT 12 MORE FROM BEGINNING ALL NEXT DOOR TO EACH OTHER. HOW IS THIS GOING TO HELP THE 12 ALREADY EXISTING THAT ARE CONCERNED? >>COUN. PEÑA: IT ACTUALLY WOULDN'T HELP THE ONES THAT ARE THERE. IT'S JUST AN OVER TIME THING AS WHERE ONE OF THEM MOVED OUT AND DIDN'T RENEW LEASE, THEN AFTER THAT IT WOULDN'T ALLOW THAT TYPE OF BUSINESS TO GO THERE. >>COUN. BENTON: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: I WONDER IF THE SPONSOR WOULD BE WILLING TO MAKE IT CONDITIONAL. SO THERE'S AN OPPORTUNITY -- I THINK THIS IS SOMETHING WE DEAL WITH ON EAST CENTRAL. AND SOME OF THE CAREO OVER FROM VEHICLES ON THE ROAD WAY. I WONDER IF WE SHOULD MAKE IT CONDITIONAL SO IF THERE'S A GOOD OPERATOR TRYING TO STEP INTO THE AREA THEY WOULD HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO MAKE THAT CASE. >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. PRESIDENT, I WOULD BE WILLING TO MAKE IT CONDITIONAL. >>COUN. DAVIS: I'LL DEFER TO THE SPONSOR. >>COUN. PEÑA: I'LL AMEND MY AMENDMENT TO SAY CONDITIONAL. >>COUN. BENTON: THAT'S A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: MR. PRESIDENT, WHILE I UNDERSTAND THE INTENT I THINK THIS WILL CAUSE A LOT OF PROBLEMS FOR A LOT OF BUSINESSES. MY -- WHERE I AM, RIGHT NEXT TO DO US IS ANOTHER ONE. THAT IS BUILT FOR AN AUTORESPARE SHOP. THERE'S SOME BUSINESSES ON SUSAN STREET. I CAN NAME YOU A DOZEN DIFFERENT BUILDINGS ALL ACROSS THE CITY THAT ARE MADE SPECIFICALLY FOR AUTO REPAIR. THIS COULD BE A PROBLEM FOR A LOT OF PROPERTY OWNERS. WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO PUT INTO A PLACE MADE SPECIFICALLY FOR AUTO REPAIR. I UNDERSTAND THE INTENT. I WILL VOTE NO. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. OTHER DISCUSSION, COUNCILORS? DID WE COVER EVERYTHING? >>COUN. PEÑA: I THINK JUST FOR DISCUSSION WE'LL LOOK AT THIS THE NEXT GO ROUND WITH THE IDO. I'LL WITHDRAW. >>COUN. BENTON: OKAY. THAT ONE IS ALSO WITHDRAWN. THE NUMBER WOULD REMAIN, RIGHT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, THE COUNCILOR WHO SECONDED THE AMENDMENT WOULD NEED TO CONSENT TO THE WITHDRAW. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I CONSENT. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. WE'LL MOVE TO THE NEXT ONE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, THIS IS AMENDMENT B28 RELATED TO THE DEFINITION OF MAJOR PUBLIC OPEN SPACE. THIS AMENDMENT IS AN EDIT OF AN AMENDMENT THIS COUNCIL ALREADY APPROVED AS A PART OF THIS YEAR'S CYCLE. ON MAY 2nd IT WAS LABELLED B12 AND IT'S INITIAL ITERATION, STAFF MISSED A PRETTY IMPORTANT PIECE OF LANGUAGE IN THAT INITIAL DRAFT. I UNDERLINED IT ON THE TEXT ON THE SLIDE RELATE TODAY CITY OWNED OR MANAGED OPEN SPACE THAT IS ZONED NOPRB, THEY UNINTENTIONALLY OMITTED THE PHRASE OR MANAGED. THIS AMENDMENT PROPOSED TO CLEAN THAT UP. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: I'LL MOVE APPROVAL. I'LL MOVE APPROVAL OF AMENDMENT FIVE. >>COUN. BENTON: SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. ANY DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER FIVE, SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. THAT PASSES ON AN 8-1 VOTE. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN OPPOSED. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, WE ARE ON TO AMENDMENT B29. TITLED RESCIND LUPZ AMENDMENT. THE LAND USE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE DID PASS AMENDMENT LABELLED A2 THAT CREATEDED A USE SPECIFIC STANDARD FOR CONVERSION OF NON-RESIDENTIAL USE TO RESIDENTIAL USE ESPECIALLY WHEN IT IS USED CITY DOLLARS FOR A LESSER KITCHEN TO BE EQUIPPED THAN WOULD OTHERWISE BE REQUIRED. IF THIS B29 AMENDMENT PASSES THAT AMENDMENT A2 THAT THE COMMITTEE PASSED WOULD BE RESCINDED WHICH MEANS THERE WOULD BE NO OPTION TO DO THE LESSER KITCHEN IN THE VERY SPECIFIC CONVERSION. >>COUN. BENTON: THIS IS SPONSORED BY COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. P I KNOW WE NEED AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND WE NEED IT NOW. I DON'T THINK THAT CONVERTING A ROOM WITH A HOT PLATE AND REFRIGERAOR IS SUFFICIENT. I THINK CONVERSION SHOULD BE DONE. AND THEY HAVE BEEN DONE. THERE'S ONE RIGHT DOWN THE STREET. IT'S BEEN DONE NICELY. I THINK THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE THERE, I THINK WE SHOULD HAVE BETTER RESPECT THAN JUST GIVING THEM A LITTLE HOT PLATE. >>COUN. BENTON: IS THAT A MOTION? THAT WOULD BE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER SIX. THERE'S A MOTION, IS THERE A SECOND? THIS IS FOR FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER SIX. B29. ANY DISCUSSION, COUNCILORS? DO WE GET A SECOND? SECOND FROM COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. LOTHOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES. -- FAILS ON A 5-4 VOTE. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, THE REST OF THE AMENDMENTS WILL RELATE TO THE LIVING LOTS CONCEPT OR SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. WE'LL START WITH PROPOSED AMENDMENT B2 TITLED LIVING LOTS. THIS CREATES A LAND USE CALL LIVING LOTS FOR TENTS LIGHT VEHICLE AND RECREATIONAL VEHICLES. IT'S PERMISSIVE USE IN MXT, NRCURIC AND NRGM. THERE'S REQUIREMENTS FOR HAND WASHING STATIONS AND TOILETS. AND THESE WOULD BE CONSIDERED TEMPORARY CRUSE. SPECIFICALLY,THE LIVING LOT CAN BE CONDUCT FOR 12 MONTHS AT A TIME WITH POTENTIAL FOR TWO SIX MONTH EXTENSIONS. THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT WOULD HAVE TO APPROVE THE EXTENSION AND A SIX-MONTH BREAK WOULD HAVE TO OCCUR ON ANYONE LOT. MR. PRESIDENT, THERE'S A MAP THAT SHOWS ANYWHERE WHERE YOU SEE A COLORED PARCEL THAT IS A PARCEL IN WHICH A LIVING LOT WOULD BE PERMISSIVE USE. >>COUN. BENTON: WE DO WANT TO MOVE THE BILL. THIS IS COUNCILOR BASSAN'S AMENDMENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE AMENDMENT NUMBER SEVEN FOR LIVING LOTS. THANK YOU. AND MR. PRESIDENT, I BELIEVE WE HAVE A SHORT PRESENTATION THAT WE HAVE CREATED. I WAS ASKED WHEN THIS BEGAN WHERE WOULD I PUT THEM. I DID NOT DIVE TOO DEEP INTO MAKING SURE THAT ALL OF THIS IS GOING TO HAPPEN. BEFORE ANYONE FREAKS OUT SEVERELY, JUST KNOW I FOUND WITH STAFF'S HELP TWO PROPERTIES THAT MEET WHAT MY VISION WOULD BE WHEN IT COMES TO LIVING LOTS ON A TEMPORARY LEVEL. WHEN IT COMES TO ILLEGAL CAMPING. THROUGHOUT THE CITY WHICH WE'VE HEARD PLENTY TONIGHT. PEOPLE DON'T WANT TENTS IN FRONT OF THEIR BUSINESSES OR CITY PARKS. WE WANT ENFORCEMENT. WE NEED SOMEWHERE TO PUT PEOPLE THAT DON'T HAVE A BED OR HOUSE. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO TO ENFORCE AND I BELIEVE THAT LIVING LOTS ARE GOING TO BE NOT INCREDIBLE. I'M NOT TRYING TO SUGAR COAT IT AND SAY THIS IS AMAZING VACATION SPOT TO MAKE SURE WE ENABLE PEOPLE. THIS IS TO SAY YOU CANNOT CAMP ANYWHERE IN OUR CITY. AND WHAT ARE WE GOING TO PROPOSE TO DO ABOUT IT WITHOUT SPENDING A LOT OF EXCESS MONEY WITHOUTBUILDING INFRASTRUCTURE THIS IS A FIRST STEP. I THINK THIS IS GOING TO BE IN OUR iPAD. THIS IS SUPPOSED TO BE THE FIRST STEP. THERE'S ONE THING I CAN MAKE SURE TO DRILL DOWN AND INTO EVERYBODY'S HEAD IS TRULY STEP ONE. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. WE'VE TALKED ABOUT TINY HOMES, WEST SIDE SHELTER, WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT MOTELS. WHAT ARE WE DOING FOR THE FIRST STEP TO REMOVE TENTS AND CARS FROM PROPERTIES THAT ARE SPRINKLED EVERYWHERE IN ALBUQUERQUE? I BELIEVE THIS IS THE FIRST STEP TO DO THAT. I WANT TO GET THE BALL ROLLING SO WE CAN MAKE SURE TO DEVELOP BETTER PLANS AND BETTER CAPABILITIES SO WE CAN ENFORCE. SO WE CAN, FOR THOSE OF US REALLY FED UP WITH SEEING THIS OCCUR, WE CAN MAKE SURE TO TAKE BACK THAT PORTION OF THE CITY. FOR THOSE OF US THAT REALLY WANT TO DO SOMETHING TO HELP THOSE IN NEED, WE CAN START BY FIGURING OUT HOW TO IDENTIFY WHAT SERVICES THEY NEED, WHY THEY ARE AND GIVE THEM SERVICES AND MAKE SURE WE SAY YOU NEED AN I.D, WE CAN DO THAT. IF YOU WANT TO DO THIS FOR THE LEST REST OF YOUR LIFE WE'LL COME BACK TO YOU. THE NEXT SLIDE WOULD BE GREAT. BY THE WAY I CAN'T STAND POWERPOINT PRESENTATIONS. I ASKED THEM TO DO THIS. THE FIRST ONE WOULD BE IDEAL, AND MAYBE YOU WILL OR WON'T AGREE, AND IT WOULD BE PERMITTED IF THIS PASSES. AND FOR THE RECORD THE ADMINISTRATION DOESN'T KNOW ABOUT THIS. EVERYBODY COULD FREAK OUT. I DON'T KNOW. THERE'S A PROPERTY OWNED BY THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE RIGHT AT THE BIG I. IT'S BEING REMEDIATED SO I CAN -- IT'S GOING TO BE EVENTUALLY A NEW CONVENIENCE CENTER FOR SOLID WASTE. WHAT ARE WE GOING TO DO WITH THAT PROPERTY UNTIL THEN. ARE WE GOING TO NEED ALL OF THAT PROPERTY RIGHT NOW? CAN WE START MAKING SURE OUR UNHOUSED POPULATION HAS SOMEWHERE TO GO. RIGHT NOW. WITHOUT SPENDING A LOT OF MONEY ON PROPERTY WE ALREADY OWN. WE CAN USE ALL OF THE DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS THAT ARE WORKING ON TENT ENCAMPMENT CLEAN UP. THEY CAN GO TO A CONSOLIDATED AREA TO GIVE SERVICES. THAT WOULD BE MY IDEAL SPOT. AND COUNCILOR BENTON, IT'S NOT THAT I TENSIONALLY PICKED YOUR DISTRICT, I PROMISE. AND PEOPLE ASKED ME WHAT I'M GOOD TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE IN MY DISTRICT. WE MADE SURE TO IDENTIFY ANOTHER PIECE OF PROPERTY, THIS IS THE SIDE VIEW. THIS IS GOING BACK TO I-40 AT THE NEW CONVENIENCE CENTER. IT'S NOT SAYING THAT WHOLE GIANT PIECE OF PROPERTY HAS TO BE USED. WE COULD USE PART OF THE PROPERTY TO START IT. WE'RE NOT SAYING PUT 2,000 PEOPLE ON DIRT AND SEE HOW THEY DO. WE GET THAT. I GET THAT. THEY CAN USE PART OF THIS PROPERTY AND WE CAN START THE PROCESS OF STEP ONE. THIS IS IN MY DISTRICT. THIS IS OWNED BY PRESBYTERIAN. THEY MIGHT FREAK OUT TOO. BUT IT SAYS IN THIS PROPERTY IN THE ACTUAL DESCRIPTION OF THE TRUST THAT OWNS THIS PROPERTY IT IS FOR COMMUNITY USE TO HELP THOSE IN NEED. THIS IS SOMEWHERE WE CAN ACTUALLY LOOK AT AND HAVE DISCUSSIONS WITH TO SAY, HEY, MIGHT WE USE THIS PROPERTY TO IDENTIFY THOSE IN NEED TEA SEW WE CAN MINIMIZE AND BEGIN THE PROCESS OF MINIMIZING THE HOMELESS CRISIS IN ALBUQUERQUE. THAT'S THE ONE IN MY DISTRICT. THERE WERE A COUPLE OTHERS. I DIDN'T THINK THEY WERE A GOOD IDEA, I DIDN'T WANT TO SHARE WITH YOU AND INTENTIONALLY MAKE YOU MAD. HERE'S A VISION. YOU GUYS ASKED. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE TO PROVIDE THERE'S SOME THOUGHT GOING THROUGH THIS. IT'S SUPPOSED TO BE BASIC SO WE DON'T GET IN YOUR OWN WAY AND WE DON'T STOP THIS BEFORE WE ACTUALLY STARTED IT. WITH THAT, I'LL LET YOU ASK QUESTIONS. AND I WOULD URGE YOUR SUPPORT BECAUSE I THINK THAT WAS MY OPEN AND CLOSE WHENEVER YOUR READY. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: THIS IS THE MAP YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT? >> YEAH, THE MAP ON THE SCREEN IS THE ONE SAME ONE YOU HAVE PRINTED. >>COUN. LEWIS: IT DOESN'T HAVE ROADS. YOU HAVE TO GUESS WHERE THESE ARE. I KNOW COUNCILOR BASSAN MENTIONED SEVERAL LOTS, BUT IF WE WERE TO PASS THIS AMENDMENT IT WOULD INCLUDE ALL OF THESE LOTS? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, YES THESE ARE THE LOTS THAT WOULD BE PERMISSIVE USE ON. >>COUN. LEWIS: HAS THIS EVER BEEN PUBLISHED? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, THIS MAP IS ON THE ABC WEBSITE. THAT'S ONLY AS THIS AFTERNOON. >>COUN. LEWIS: JUST THIS AFTERNOON PEOPLE HAVE SEEN THIS? OKAY, WHAT WAS THE ONE THAT THE ALBUQUERQUE JOURNAL PUBLISHED A FEW WEEKS AGO? THAT WAS SAFE OUTDOOR PLACES. >> THAT WAS RELATED TO SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES, NOT LIVING LOTS. >>COUN. LEWIS: PASSING THIS, CHANGING THE ZONING HERE WOULD ALLOW FOR NOT JUST THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE TO DO THIS BUT OTHER PEOPLE TO COME IN AND HAVE THIS KIND OF USAGE ON THESE COLORED AREAS? >> YES, THE USE IS NOT LIMITED TO PUBLIC ENTITY OR GOVERNMENT EPTY. ANY PRIVATE PROPERTY OWNER COULD START DOING A LIVING LOT IF THIS PASSES. >>COUN. LEWIS: FOR THE FACT ALONE THIS WAS PUBLISHED THIS AFTERNOON AND THESE ARE PLACES THAT ARE ALL OVER OUR CITY AND NEXT TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS. BIG CHUNK OF THIS RIGHT HERE IN DISTRICT FIVE. LIT UP WITH ALL KINDS OF COLOR. >>COUN. BENTON: OTHER DISCUSSION? >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. THIS IS GOING TO BE PERMITTED NEAR RESIDENTIAL AREAS? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, LIVING LOTS WOULD NOT BE A PERMISSIVE USE IN THE R ZONES. R-1 RA RT. ALL THE MIXED USE ZONES AND MOST OF THE NON-RESIDENTIAL ZONE. NO LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOODS. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I JUST WANTED TO THANK COUNCILOR BASSAN FOR THIS PROPOSAL. AND I WANTED TO REGISTER MY COMPLAINT THAT NO LOTS IN DISTRICT SEVEN WERE INCLUDED IN HER POWERPOINT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. NONE WERE INCLUDED IN COUNCILOR BASSAN'S RECOMMENDATION? THEY'RE ALL OVER DISTRICT SEVEN HERE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, I SAID THERE WAS NO SPOT IN DISTRICT SEVEN INCLUDED IN COUNCILOR BASSAN'S POWERPOINT. >>COUN. LEWIS: THE TWO LOTS SHE RECOMMENDED. MR. PRESIDENT, HOW CLOSE TO RESIDENTIAL AREAS, THIS IS ABOUT SEVEN OR EIGHT DIFFERENT USES IN SOME INSTANCES, DO YOU KNOW HOW CLOSE? A BLOCK AWAY FROM RESIDENTIAL AREAS? HALF A BLOCK? 100 YARDS? HOW FAR WOULD THESE USAGES BE AWAY FROM SOMEONE'S HOME? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, THERE'S A VARIETY OF DISTANCES. BUT THERE ARE EXAMPLES WHERE SOME OF THESE ZONING DISTRICTS WILL DIRECTLY ABUT A LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL NEIGHBORHOOD. IN SOME INSTANCES COULD BE A COUPLE BLOCKS. BUT THERE'S OPTIONS ACROSS THE CITY WHERE THEY COULD BE TOUCHING. >>COUN. LEWIS: IT COULD BE NEXT DOOR. IN DISTRICT FIVE, ALL THESE COLORED AREAS ALL OVER DISTRICT FIVE, THERE COULD BE -- THERE'S LIKELY A LOT FULL OF TENT ENCAMPMENT THAT WOULD BE NEXT DOOR. YOU WALK OUT YOUR FRONT DOOR AND WITHIN A FEW FEET AWAY FROM TENTS? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, THERE ARE NO REQUIRED DISTANCE SEPARATION BETWEEN A LIVING LOT AND A LOW DENSITY RESIDENTIAL ZONE OR USE. IF THE ZONING MATCHES UP THAT WAY, IT COULD BE A POSSIBILITY. >>COUN. BENTON: OKAY. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. WHILE I APPRECIATE AND AGREE WITH MOST OF WHAT YOU'RE IMPLYING WITH THAT, WOULD IT BE CORRECT FOR ME TO SAY IF SOMETHING LIKE THAT WERE TO ABUT NEAR RESIDENTIAL ZONE THAT WOULD BE ONLY IF THE PROPERTY OWNER DECIDED TO DO SO AFTER AND IF THIS PASSES? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, THAT'S CORRECT. >>COUN. BENTON: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR AMENDMENT NUMBER SEVEN, LIVING LOTS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT FAILS ON A 3-6 VOTE. >>COUN. DAVIS: I'M REMINDED OUR RULES SAY WE HAVE TO BE DONE IN FIVE MINUTES. I SUPPOSE WE OUGHT TO EXTEND THIS. I MAKE A MOTION TO EXTEND THIS MEETING UNTIL 11:30. THAT GIVES USZ -- US AN HOUR. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR GROUT TO SUSPEND THE RULES TO EXTEND OUR MEETING TO 11:30. LOTHOSE ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES, AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES. >> THE NEXT AMENDMENT IS AMENDMENT B7, THE REST OF THE AMENDMENTS WILL BE RELATED TO SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. THE FIRST ONE WOULD CHANGE THE ALLOWED ZONE FOR SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE. WHAT HAS ALREADY BEEN PASSED BY THE COUNCIL IS THEY'RE CONDITIONAL IN THE MXM AND MXH. THE FIRST THING THIS AMENDMENT WOULD DO IS CHANGE CONDITIONAL USE TO PERMISSIVE USE. THE SECOND THING IT WOULD DO, IF YOU THE APPROPRIATE ZONING BUT IT'S LOCATED IN DOWNTOWN OR MAIN STREET OR URBAN CENTER WHICH ARE MAPPED AREAS IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN YOU WOULD HAVE TO GO THROUGH THE CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS. >>COUN. BENTON: THIS IS MY AMENDMENT. I'LL MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER EIGHT. IS THERE A SECOND? COUNCILORS, JUST A QUICK EXPLANATION. IT DOES INCLUDE CERTAIN AMOUNT OF DISTRICT THREE. THAT'S NOT MY CONCERN. MY CONCERN HERE IS THAT DOWNTOWN CENTER MAIN STREET AND THE URBAN CENTERS ARE AREAS THAT WE'VE ALREADY DESIGNATED TO BE IMPORTANT DEVELOPMENT AREAS WHERE WE'RE TRYING OUR BEST TO UTILIZE PLANS AND THESE AREAS TEND TO BE HIGHER DENSITY OF SOS. FOR THAT REASON [ INAUDIBLE ]. >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. YOU AND I HAVE CONVERSATIONS. AND USUALLY WE AGREE ON THIS. THIS IS WHERE WE HAVE A TECHNICAL DISAGREEMENT. THERE'S ANOTHER AMENDMENT. I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT. I APPRECIATE THE SPONSOR RECOGNIZES THE IMPORTANCE OF MAKING THOSE CONDITIONAL USES IN AREAS LIKE MAIN STREET CORRIDORS DOWNTOWN. I THINK HOWEVER THAT IN THE COMP PLAN THERE'S OTHER AREAS THAT INCLUDE ATTENTION. I THINK THE IMPORTANT ONE IS EMPLOYMENT CENTERS. THESE ARE PLACES WHERE LARGEST EMPLOYERS ARE TARGETING. WE REALLY SET ASIDE SAFE WORKPLACES. I LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT THAT WE ADD EMPLOYMENT CENTERS TO THAT LANGUAGE FOR THE CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL SO IT WOULD READ THAT THE USE SHALL REQUIRE CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL WITHIN THE DOWNTOWN CENTER, MAIN STREET, AND EMPLOYMENT CENTERS. THAT WOULD NEGIGATE THE NEED FOR THE OTHER AMENDMENT LATER AND I WOULD MAKE THAT MOTION. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION TO AMEND THE AMENDMENT. ADD EMPLOYMENT. IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. I LIKE TO ASK MS. SHULZ. >> I DON'T HAVE A MAP READILY AVAILABLE WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. WITH ABOUT THREE MINUTES TIME CAN -Y I CAN GET IT PULLED UP. >>COUN. BENTON: WOULD IT INCLUDE THE I-25 AREA. >> I'M ALMOST CERTAIN THAT WOULD BE CONSIDERED AN EMPLOYMENT AREA. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FOR THE AMENDMENT. ANY DISCUSSION? >>COUN. LEWIS: DO WE HAVE ANY MAPS THAT IF THIS AMENDMENT WERE TO PASS THAT WOULD SHOW WHERE THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES WOULD BE? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, WHAT'S ON THE SCREEN RIGHT NOW DEPICTS WHERE A SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE COULD GO AS B7 WAS DRAFTED WITHOUT THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. WHAT YOU SEE ON THIS MAP IS PURPLE AND TAN PARCELS. THIS WOULD BE AREAS IN WHICH A SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE WOULD BE PERMISSIVE. ALL OF THE RED AREAS ARE THE URBAN CENTERS DOWNTOWN AND MAIN STREET CORRIDORS WHERE THE USE BECOMES CONDITIONAL. >>COUN. LEWIS: HAS THIS BEEN PUBLISHED? >> YES, THIS HAS BEEN PUBLISHED FOR SEVERAL WEEKS AS COUNCILOR BENTON DID PROPOSE THIS AMENDMENT AT THE LAST HEARING. >>COUN. LEWIS: AND THIS EXCLUDES THE URBAN AREAS? >> MR. PRESIDENT, YES. THIS WOULD MAKE IT A CONDITIONAL USE IN THE COUN TOWN CENTER MAIN STREET CORRIDORS AND URBAN CENTERS. NOT PROHIBITED, YOU WOULD STILL BE ABLE TO DO IT, BUT YOU GO THROUGH THE CONDITIONAL USE PROCESS BEFORE THE ZONING HEARING EXAMINER. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. I THINK THAT THIS IS ONE OF THE ISSUES I HAD WHEN WE WERE SPEAKING OF THIS THE LAST MEETING IS THAT WE'RE PROPOSING THE DIFFERENT SPACES YET THERE'S LARGE PORTIONS BEING EXCLUDED FOR VARIOUS REASONS. AND FOR SOME, BECAUSE YOU'RE IDENTIFYING LAND YOU WANT TO SEE DEVELOPED IN DIFFERENT WAYS. I CAN MAKE A CASE THAT MY ENTIRE DISTRICT I WOULD LIKE TO BE DEVELOPED IN WAYS THAT ARE CRITICAL. I THINK THE PREMISE IS THAT THESE TENT ENCAMPMENTS WOULD BE DETRIMENTAL TO SOME OF THE AREAS WHICH IS WHY THE SPONSORS ARE EXCLUDING THEM FROM CERTAIN AREAS. I THINK I WOULD MAKE THE SAME CASE FOR THE REST OF THE CITY. I THINK WE'RE JUST PRIORITIZING AND SAYING ONE AREA IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE OTHER WHEN IT COMES TO THAT. THE REASONING, I HAVE A HARD TIME WITH. AGAIN, IT LED ME TO PROPOSE AMENDMENTS THAT EXCLUDE THESE FROM ENTIRE DISTRICTS. I'D BE INCLINED TO INTRODUCE AN AMENDMENT THAT EXCLUDES FROM DISTRICT FIVE. JUST TO BE . >>COUN. BENTON: THIS IS TO REQUIRE CONDITIONAL USE, NOT EXCLUDE. IT'S CREATING AN HIGHER STANDARD. THE AMENDMENT ON THE FLOOR IS COUNCILOR DAVIS'S AMENDMENT TO ADD. >> MR. PRESIDENT, I HAVE A MAP AVAILABLE OF EMPLOYMENT CENTERS IF THE COUNCIL WOULD BE INTERESTED IN SEEING WHAT THAT ADDS TO THE CONDITIONALAL USE REQUIREMENT. >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. PRESIDENT, WHILE SHE'S PULLING IT UP, IT'S THE AIRPORT, UNM, CNM, COLLEGE DISTRICTS, DOUBLE EAGLE ON THE WEST SIDE. JOURNAL CENTER, PART OF MESA DEL SOL. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR DAVIS, ALL OF THESE CENTERS IN BLUE ARE EMPLOYMENT CENTERS. THAT'S ADDED TO THE CONDITIONAL USE REQUIREMENT FOR THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE IF THE ZONING WAS APPROPRIATE. >>COUN. BENTON: ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT. THERE ARE SPACES IN DISTRICT FIVE WHERE ALL OF THOSE CONDITIONAL USE UNDER THESE TWO AMENDMENTS? IN DISTRICT FIVE. ARE THEY ALL CONDITIONAL USE? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, WHAT THIS MAP IS DEPICTING THAT PURPLE AREA THAT YOU SEE IN THE NORTHWEST PART OF THE CITY AND THE BLUE AREA BECOME CONDITIONAL USE. THEY REQUIRE IT IF THIS AMENDMENT IS AMENDED AN AND PASSED. >>COUN. LEWIS: THERE'S A TAN AREA. >> NOT THE TAN AREA. THOSE TAN CENTERS ARE ACTIVITY CENTERS WHICH ARE NOT UP FOR DISCUSSION AS PART OF THIS AMENDMENT AT THIS TIME. >>COUN. BENTON: WE'RE ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND TO THE AMENDMENT TO ADD EMPLOYMENT CENTERS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR RAISE YOUR HAND AND SAY YES. OPPOSED? THAT FAILS ON A 3-6 TO ADD THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER. WE'RE BACK ON THE AMENDMENT AS WRITTEN. THAT IS ADDING A REQUIREMENT OF CONDITIONAL USE IN THE MAIN STREET CORRIDORS DOWNTOWN AND URBAN CENTERS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND AND HOLD IT UP. OPPOSED? ALL RIGHT. THAT FAILS ON A 4-5 VOTE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, MOVING TO AMENDMENT LABELLED B16. SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES DEPARTMENT REVIEW. SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES REQUIRE A MANAGEMENT PLAN OR SECURITY PLAN BE SUBMITTED TO THE PLANNING DEPARTMENTED AT THE TIME OF APPLICATION. WHAT THIS AMENDMENT WOULD DO IS REQUIRE THAT THE DEPARTMENT OF FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES REVIEW THAT MANAGEMENT PLAN. NOT THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: LET'S SEE. THIS IS MY AMENDMENT. THIS WOULD BE NUMBER NINE. IS THAT RIGHT? NUMBER NINE. YEAH, I MEAN, WE HAVE A SEPARATE BILL THAT IS BEING PROPOSED THAT I BELIEVE COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN AND MYSELF AND COUNCILOR DAVIS THAT GETS INTO THE DETAILS OF WHAT NEEDS TO BE REVIEWED BY THE CITY. BEFORE ONE OF THESE ACTUALLY GETS APPROVED IN A ZONE. THAT'S A COMPANION TO THIS AMENDMENT. THAT'S SCHEDULED FOR A HEARING. ANY DISCUSSION ON THIS? I GUESS I MOVED IT. IS THERE A SECOND? >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT. I JUST WANT TO CONFIRM THIS MANAGEMENT PLAN IS NOT TO SAY THAT IT'S GOING TO -- I'M UNDER THE IMPRESSION THAT IF SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES WERE TO PASS, IT'S NOT FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES THAT'S GOING TO DEVELOP NECESSARILY AND EXECUTE THE PLAN. IT'S JUST WE WANT THEM TO APPROVE WE'RE LOOKING AT THE PROPER AVENUE AND WE ALSO STILL EXPECT WHOEVER GOT THE RFP TO MANAGE THE CONTRACT. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, ONE CLARIFICATION, THE WAY THE LANGUAGE IS WRITTEN IT CALLS FOR THE DEPARTMENT TO REVIEW THE PLAN AM IT DOESN'T INDICATE THEY HAVE TO APPROVE IT, THEY JUST HAVE TO HAVE THEIR EYES ON IT. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S ONE AMENDMENT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE TO MY OWN AMENDMENT WHICH IS TO ADD THE WORD OPERATION. OPERATION A MANAGEMENT. THAT'S A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO MY AMENDMENT. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? IF NOT WE'LL GO TO A VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR FOR FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER NINE. SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? DID THE STAFF GET IT? 7-2. THANK YOU. WE'LL MOVE ON TO MS. SHULZ. >> MR. PRESIDENT. COUNCILORS, THIS IS AMENDMENT B17 ENTITLED SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. THIS PROPOSES TO CHANGE THE ZONING DISTRICT IN WHICH YOU CAN DO A SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE. TODAY YOU CAN DO THEM IN A VARIETY OF MEXED USE AND RESIDENTIAL ZONES, THIS ONLY ALLOWS IN THE NON-RESIDENTIAL SENSITIVE USE ZONING DISTRICT. WHICH IS A UNIQUE ZONING DISTRICT. YOU CAN ONLY RECEIVE THIS BY GOING THROUGH A ZONE MAP AMENDMENT PROCESS. AND AT THE TIME YOU GO THROUGH THE ZONE AMENDMENT PROCESS YOU ALSO HAVE TO HAVE THAT REQUEST ACCOMPANIED BY A SITE PLAN. THE SITE PLAN HAVE TO BE REVIEWED BY ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING COMMISSION. THE DISTRICT IS TYPICALLY RESERVED FOR SENSITIVE USES. SOME OF THE OTHER USES IN THAT ZONE DISTRICT ARE A HOSPITAL, FOR EXAMPLE. >>COUN. BENTON: THIS AMENDMENT IS BY COUNCILOR PEÑA. THIS WILL BE NUMBER TEN. >>COUN. PEÑA: I WOULD MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: IS THERE A SECOND? SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: I JUST THINK SINCE I AM OPPOSED TO THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES, I THINK THAT THIS MAKES A LITTLE MORE RESTRICTIVE. I'M GOING TO SAY YES TO THIS ONE. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: DO WE HAVE SPECIFIC MAP THAT SHOWS THE SPECIFIC AREAS? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, I DO NOT. >> >> I DON'T HAVE A MAP READILY AVAILABLE. IN THREE MINUTES I CAN HAVE ONE PULLED UP. THIS IS NOT A ZONE DISTRICT MAPPED ACROSS THE CITY VERY HEAVILY. IT'S ONLY RESERVED FOR PARTICULAR USES LISTED IN THE AMENDMENT. WHERE ONE OF THOSE EXIST TODAY YOU'LL FIND THAT ZONING DISTRICT. IT'S NOT COMMON. AT THE COUNCIL'S DISCRETION I CAN PULL A MAP UP. >>COUN. LEWIS: YOU COULD. IF IT'S NOT COMMON, MAYBE THERE'S TWO OR THREE OF THESE OR TEN? IT WOULD BE EASY TO KNOW WHERE THEY ARE. OR I SUGGEST WE TABLE THIS UNTIL THEN. >>COUN. BENTON: LET'S STAY ON THIS. I THINK JUST TO CLARIFY, THIS IS RESTRICTING THE USE TO ONLY ONE ZONE. IS THAT CORRECT? NON-RESIDENTIAL SENSITIVE USE ZONE WOULD BE THE ONLY ZONE IN WHICH THEY WOULD BE. >>COUN. PEÑA: THAT'S CORRECT. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, WHAT YOU SEE ON THE SCREEN, I'M SORRY IT'S NOT LARGE, ALL OF THE SWATHS IN THE CITY THAT YOU SEE IN GRAY ARE NRSU TODAY. MAYBE I'LL ZOOM IN AND CRUISE AROUND THE QUADRANT A LITTLE BIT. THE LABEL THAT SAYS LOS RANCHO IS OUT THE THE JURISDICTION. >>COUN. LEWIS: HOW MANY LOTERIZE THERE? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, I DON'T HAVE -- I'M NOT SURE THE NUMBER OF LOTS. THERE'S SOME SPRINKLED THERE. HERE. IF YOU SEE MY MOUSE MOVING AROUND. THE TWO AIRPORTS, OF COURSE. MAYBE 20. WITHOUT HAVING AN OFFICIAL COUNTED. MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, IT WOULD BE LIKELY IF SOMEONE WHO OWNED A PROPERTY WANTED TO DO A SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE AND THIS PASSED THEY WOULD GO THROUGH THE ZONE MAP AMENDMENT PROCESS BEFORE THE EPC AND POTENTIALLY BEFORE THE COUNCIL IF THE PARCEL IS LARGE ENOUGH. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE'RE GETTING CLOSER TO IDENTIFYING SPECIFIC AREAS WHICH IS REALLY WHERE WE SHOULD HAVE STARTED IN THE FIRST PLACE. NAME THE PLACES YOU WANTED TO GO. LET'S START THERE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, I CAN MAKE IT LARGER. ONLY IF I ZOOM IN ON PARTICULAR AREAS OF THE CITY. ANYWHERE YOU SEE DARK GRAY BLOB, THAT WOULD BE A PARCEL THAT HAS NR-SU ZONING TODAY. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT. THIS IS -- JUST AN INTERESTING PROCESS WE'RE GOING THROUGH. IT'S NOT TRANSPARENT. IT'S NOT IN ANY WAY INFORMATIVE TO THE PUBLIC AT ALL. TO JUST BE AMENDMENT -- I UNDERSTAND WHY THE AMENDMENT IS BEING PROPOSED. DEFINITELY NOT TRANSPARENT IN ANYWAY WAY. NOT A PUBLIC HONORING PROCESS. >>COUN. BENTON: I RECOGNIZE ONE IN COUNCILOR DAVIS'S DISTRICT. AND OF COURSE THE AIRPORT ITSELF. THE SUNPORT. >> MR. PRESIDENT, CORRECT. >>COUN. BENTON: THE RUNWAY. THE NORTH/SOUTH RUNWAY. IS THAT CLEAR ENOUGH FOR EVERYONE? I THINK WE NEED TO KEEP MOVING WITH THESE AMENDMENTS. AMENDMENT NUMBER TEN HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND OPPOSED? THAT FAILS 3-6. ALL RIGHT. MS. SHULZ. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, THE NEXT AMENDMENT IS LABELLED B18. SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES DISTRICT CAPS. TODAY THE IDO SAYS THAT YOU CAN'T HAVE MORE THAN FIVE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES IN ANYONE CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT. THIS AMENDMENT PROPOSED TO REDUCE IT TO TWO. >>COUN. BENTON: THIS IS MY AMENDMENT. DESPITE POPULAR THINKING, I DON'T THINK WE OUGHT TO BE PUTTING THESE ALL OVER THE CITY. I THINK FIVE WAS WAY OVER THE TOP. THIS WOULD MAKE IT TWO PER COUNCIL DISTRICT. SECOND FROM COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: JUST TO CLARIFY FOR MY MEMORY AND THOSE FOLLOWING. WE STILL INTEREST THE AMENDMENT THAT EXEMPT FAITH-BASED ORGANIZATIONS BECAUSE THEY'RE EXEMPT ANYWAY, IS THAT CORRECT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR DAVIS YES. IF A SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE WAS ASSOCIATED WITH A RELIGIOUS INSTITUTION, THERE'S SEVERAL STANDARDS NOT APPLICABLE TO THEM. THE DISTRICT CAP IS ONE OF THEM. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MA'AM. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT BRRB I -- I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A MOMENT TO CLARIFY FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT HEAR ABOUT THIS THAT JUST LIKE THIS DIDN'T SAY WE'RE AUTOMATICALLY PUTTING IN 45 THIS AMENDMENT IS SAYING WE'RE AUTOMATICALLY PUTTING IN 18 THROUGHOUT THE CITY. IT'S SAYING THERE WON'T BE MORE THAN TWO IN ANYONE GIVEN DISTRICT AT THE TIME. PLEASE, ANYONE WATCHING AND HEARING, THIS DOES NOT MEAN WE'LL PUT 18 OUT THERE RIGHT AWAY, IF AT ALL. >>COUN. BENTON: THANKS FOR THE CLARIFICATION COUNCILOR. WE DO GET A SECOND ON THAT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, I'D LIKE TO MAKE AN AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. TO EXCLUDE DISTRICT FIVE. >>COUN. BENTON: ISN'T THERE AN AMENDMENT TO THAT EFFECT ALREADY? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, THERE IS AN AMENDMENT THAT EXEMPTS SEVERAL DISTRICTS. THAT'S B26. THE VERY LAST ONE. UNLESS THE COUNCIL WOULD LIKE TAKE THOSE OUT OF ORD. >>COUN. LEWIS: THAT AMENDMENT IS DEDICATED TO SPECIFICALLY TO THOSE AMENDMENTS ? I DON'T THINK THEY WERE PUT ON THE RECORD. I DON'T THINK WE PUT THEM ON THE RECORD. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, B26 SPONSORED BY COUNCILOR SANCHEZ PROPOSED TO PROHIBIT SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES IN COUNCIL DISTRICTS ONE, FIVE, NINE. >>COUN. LEWIS: I WITHDRAW MY AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? MOVED AND SECONDED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF AMENDMENT NUMBER 11. SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COULD YOU CALL THAT VOTE AGAIN? >>COUN. BENTON: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR, RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? 4-5. THAT FAILS ON A 4-5 VOTE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, THE NEXT AMENDMENT IS B19. SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES TEMPORARY. THE SAY THE USE EXISTS TODAY IT COULD BE PERMANENT USE. THIS AMENDMENT WOULD INSTEAD MAKE IT TEMPORARY IN NATURE. THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE COULD OCCUR FOR A PERIOD OF 24 MONTHS WITH THE POTENTIAL FOR ONE 24-MONTH EXTENSION. I GUESS THE FULL POTENTIAL OF FOUR YEARS. AND THERE WOULD NEED TO BE A SIX-MONTH BREAK ON ANY PARCEL DOING A SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE AND THE FOUR-YEAR CYCLE COULD BEGIN AGAIN. IT'S THE PURVIEW OF THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT TO APPROVE THOSE TEMPORARY USE EXTENSIONS. >>COUN. BENTON: THIS WILL BE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER 12. I DISCUSSED THE SOS IDEA. I'M AN ADVOCATE FOR TRYING IT OUT. NOT AN ADVOCATE FOR SAYING THIS IS PERMISS FRB USE FROM NOW ON UNTIL WE REPEAL IT. I ADVOCATE WE TRY IT OUT. AND THAT'S WHAT THIS DOES. SPEAKING WITH A LOT OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE BEEN IN THE TRENCHES OF TRYING TO HELP PERSONS LIVING IN THE STREET, PARTICULARLY WITH CHALLENGES THEY FACE FROM BEHAVIORAL HEALTH AND ADDICTION STANDPOINT. I REALLY -- THE DEBATE ON THIS OVER THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS MAKES IT CLEAR PEOPLE DON'T UNDERSTAND WHAT IT IS. PEOPLE THINK IT'S SOME SORT OF FREE FOR ALL. AND EVERYBODY BRINGS THEIR OWN TENT AND CAMPS AND THERE'S NO RULES AND IT'S NO DIFFERENT AS BEEN DESCRIBED FROM CORONADO PARK. THIS ESSENTIALLY SAYS THIS IS SOMETHING WORTH TRYING. AND IT CAN BE DEMONSTRATED AND IT COULD BE UP TO FOUR YEARS IF THERE WAS A RENEWAL AT THE TWO-YEAR POINT. I'LL MOVE THAT. MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR DAVIS. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? 24 MONTHS WITH A 24 MONTH POSSIBLE RENEWAL. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? OPPOSED? 5-4. THAT PASSES. ALL RIGHT. MS. SHULZ. >> MR. PRESIDENT, THE NEXT AMENDMENT IS B20. LABELLED SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES OPTION TWO. IT DOES A NUMBER OF THINGS TO THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE USE. LET ME CHECK MY LOG. BECAUSE THIS AMENDMENT IS DEPENDENT UPON IF ANOTHER AMENDMENT PASSED. LET ME CONFIRM. THIS AMENDMENT STARTS OUT BY SAYING IF FLOOR AMENDMENT B7 DIDN'T PASS. IT DID NOT PASS. THE FIRST ACTION LISTED IN THE AMENDMENT WOULD BE TAKEN. WHICH WOULD BE TO MAKE A SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE PERMISSIVE IN THE MXM AND MXH ZONE DISTRICTS. BUT ALSO REQUIRE A DONE CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL IF LOCATED IN A MAIN STREET AREA. EARLIER WE TALKED ABOUT URBAN CENTERS DOWNTOWN AND MAIN STREETS THIS AMENDMENT TALKS ONLY ABOUT MAIN STREETS. THIS AMENDMENT PROPOSES TO REMOVE ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS RELATE TODAY SHOWERS. AND WOULD ALLOW FOR ON CALL SUPPORT TO MEET THE REQUIREMENTS AS OPPOSED TO ON-SITE SUPPORT. THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES TODAY IS EXPLICIT THAT ONSITE SUPPORT IS REQUIRED. THIS WOULD OPEN THE OPPORTUNITY FOR ON-CALL SUPPORT. >>COUN. BENTON: THIS IS COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN'S AMENDMENT. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THIS IS MY LAST DITCH EFFORT TO MAKE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES SOMETHING THAT CAN ACTUALLY BE IMPLEMENTED IN THE CITY QUITE EASILY. MOVING IT FROM CONDITIONAL TO PERMSIVE IN THOSE TWO ZONES. REMOVING DETAILS THAT ARE NOT OURS TO BE WORKED OUT. WE HAVE A SEPARATE PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT WOULD HAVE FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES ALONG WITH SEVERAL OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS WORKING TOGETHER TO DEVELOP WHAT THESE ACTUALLY LOOK LIKE. AGAIN, THIS IS A ZONING DOCUMENT NOT A PROGRAM PLAN. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. MOVE AMENDMENT 13. >>COUN. BENTON: IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE SPONSOR. THE RATIONALE FOR REMOVING SHOWERS AS A REQUIREMENT? HOW WOULD PEOPLE KEEP THEMSELVES CLEAN? >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: MR. PRESIDENT, I DON'T THINK WE REMOVE SHOWERS FROM SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES WE ALLOW THOSE DETAILS TO BE WORKED OUT BY THE IXPERTS IN FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES AND CITY DEPARTMENTS WHERE THERE ARE ACTUAL EXPERTS WORKING WITH THESE FOLKS EVERY DAY. I WANT TO LEAVE IT OUT OF A ZONING DOCUMENT AND MAKE IT PART OF THE THE PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT YOU REFERENCED EARLIER THAT WOULD REALLY HAVE THE EXPERTS DELVE INTO THIS ISSUE AND DEVELOP A PROJECT PLAN THAT WORKS. >>COUN. BENTON: AND ALSO A QUESTION TO THE SPONSOR, MAIN STREET AREAS WOULD STILL REMAIN OR BE PUT UNDER THE CONDITIONAL USE? >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES, MR. PRESIDENT. LEFT THAT IN. I KNOW THAT WAS SOMETHING DISCUSSED EARLIER IMPORTANT TO YOU. I SEE THE RATIONALE FOR THAT. I DIDN'T WANT TO GO TOO FAR. I DON'T WANT TO MAKE THESE TOO RESTRICTIVE. I UNDERSTAND THE RATIONALE FOR MAIN STREET AREAS BEING A LITTLE MORE DIFFICULT FOR THIS. THEY WOULD BE CONDITIONAL USE ONLY NOT PERMISSIVE. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU TO THE RESPONSE FRR BRINGING THIS. I SUPPORT YOUR INITIATIVE TO MAKE THESE MORE ACCESSIBLE AND MORE PERMISSIVE IN SOME AREAS. I CAN SUPPORT TWO OUT OF THREE OF THESE PACES. I'M BACK TO THE SAME. I THINK THE MAIN STREET AND EMPLOYMENT AREAS ARE IMPORTANT. IT'S NOT THE ONLY ONE. BUT AGAIN, I THINK WE'RE ASKING A LOT OF THE NEIGHBORHOODS AROUND THE FEET WAY. THIS WOULD AUTOMATICALLY MAKE THESE PERMISSIVE ON TOP OF THE ISSUES, I THINK IT'S LOT TO ASK. WITHOUT THAT CARVE OUT, CAN COULDN'T SUPPORT THE ENTIRETY OF THE AMENDMENT. I THINK TWO OR THREE OF THESE ARE IMPORTANT. I HOPE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO MAKE THAT WORK SOMEWHERE DOWN THE ROAD. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: MR. PRESIDENT, CAN I ASK COUNCILOR DAVIS, WHAT ARE THE TWO OF THE THREE YOUR SUPPORT? >>COUN. DAVIS: I UNDERSTAND THE PROVISIONS FOR LETTING THE EXPERTS DEAL WITH SHOWERS AND THINK THE ON CALL REPLACEMENT IS ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. IT SHOULDN'T BY A FULL SERVICE ON-SITE. I LOVER TO FIGURE IT OUT, I CAN'T SUPPORT CONDITIONAL FOR MAIN STREET. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL RIGHT. COUNCILORS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? SEEING NONE. WE'LL GO TO A VOTE ON FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER THREE 13. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT FAILS ON A 3-6 VOTE. MS. SHULZ. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, WE'RE ON TO AMENDMENT B22. THIS AMENDMENT PROPOSES TO CHANGE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES AGAIN FROM CONDITIONAL TO PERMISSIVE IN MXM AND MXH. BUT WOULD GO ON TO MAKE THE CONDITIONAL USE APPROVAL REQUIRED IN DOWNTOWN CENTERS, MAIN STREET AREAS, URBAN CENTERS, ACTIVITY CENTERS, THAT'S A NEW ONE WE HAVE NOT YET DISCUSSED, AND EMPLOYMENT CENTERS. >>COUN. DAVIS: THIRD BITE AT THE APPLE, I'LL MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER 14. IF THERE'S A SECOND, MR. PRESIDENT, I'LL EXPLAIN THE ACTIVITY CENTER. FOR DISCUSSION, WITHOUT A MAP IN FRONT OF US WE LOOKED AT THE EMPLOYMENT CENTER, THE ACTIVITY CENTERERIZE MALLS, FOUR HILLS SHOPPING CENTER. THESE ARE ACTIVITY CENTERS THAT ARE THE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL CENTERS. THERE ARE A NUMBER OF THEM ON THE FAR WEST END OF CENTRAL. IN COUNCILOR SANCHEZ'S AND COUNCILOR PEÑA'S DISTRICT. THOSE NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL CENTERS WE'V CARVED OUT. THESE ARE ALIGNED WITH MAIN STREET BUSINESSES. AND FEEL LIKE THOSE ARE APPROPRIATE. >>COUN. BENTON: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION OR QUESTIONS, COUNCILORS? THIS WOULD BE NUMBER 14. MOVERED AND -- ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? IT LOOKS LIKE A 3-6. NEXT IS NUMBER 15. >> MR. PRESIDENT. THIS IS AMENDMENT B23. SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES CRIMINAL HISTORY. THIS PROPOSES TO ADD A REQUIREMENT THAT THE REQUIRED MANAGEMENT PLAN SPECIFY THAT PERSONS WITH MISDEMEANORS OR FELONIES ARE NOT PERMITTED TO STAY IN A SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE. >>COUN. BENTON: THIS IS COUNCILOR SANCHEZ'S AMENDMENT. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU . >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THE REASON FOR THIS AMENDMENT IS TO MAKE SURE WE MAKE THE PLACE A LITTLE SAFER. YOU ALREADY HAVE INDIVIDUALS WALKING THE STREETS WITH THE CRIMINAL ELEMENT OUT THERE. ALSO WE HAVE OVER 1 1 110,000 PE WALKING THE STREETS OF ALBUQUERQUE WHO HAVE WARRANTS FOR THE ARREST. WHY WOULD WE WANT TO BRING CRIMINAL ELEMENT IN A PLACE THAT WE'RE TRYING TO MAKE SAFE? WE'RE CALLING IT SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES, LET'S MAKE SURE THERE SAFE. MAKE SURE WE DO NOT ALLOW FELONY OR MISDEMEANOR INDIVIDUALS IN THE ENCAMPMENT. I ASK FOR A MOTION AND A DUE PASS. >>COUN. BENTON: IS THERE A SECOND? COUNCILOR GROUT. SECOND. ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCILOR DAVIS. >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. PRESIDENT, I UNDERSTAND THE SPONSORS INTENT. I'M NOT SURE THAT'S HOW IT READS. I THINK STATING THEY HAVE A CHARGE COULD MEAN IN THE PAST, IT COULD MEAN THEY HAVE A HISTORY. I DON'T KNOW IT'S WORDED TO MEET WHAT THE SPONSOR DICTATED AND HOW THAT IS DETERMINED. I WONDER IF IF THAT'S AN ISSUE, I WONDER IF THIS IS WRONGLY WRITTEN OR HELP FROM STAFF THAT CAN HELP US. IF THEY'RE TRYING TO SAY -- IF THE SPONSOR INTENDS TO SAY A PERSON WHO SP WANTED ON THE WARRANT, THAT'S COVERED BY THE FACT THEY HAVE A WARRANT. THAT'S A WHOLE CHARGE AMONG ITSELF. I'M NOT SURE WHY THIS WOULD BE NECESSARY. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: I'M LOOKING AT IT FROM THE FACT THAT INDIVIDUAL IS A WANTED PERSON. IF YOU HAVE A WARRANT FOR YOUR ARREST THAT MEANS YOU'RE WANTED BY THE AUTHORITIES. THOSE ARE THE INDIVIDUALS WHO PROBABLY COULD END UP IN A DESPERATE MEASURE IF POLICE WERE CALLED OR A SITUATION TOOK PLACE THAT ESCALATED. I'M LOOKING AT SOMEONE THAT HAS A MISDEMEANOR OR FELONY WARRANT TO BE EXCLUDED FROM SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. THE INTENT IS TO KEEP IT SAFE. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, I GUESS WHAT I'M HEARING YOU SAY AND TO COUNCILOR DAVIS'S POINT TOO, YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT A WARRANT BUT YET THIS READS ABOUT MISDEMEANOR OR FELONIES. THESE ARE TWO VERY DIFFERENT THINGS. IS IT SOMEBODY WITH A WARRANT OR SOMEBODY WITH A MISDEMEANOR OR FELONY? OR SOMEBODY WITH ANY OF THOSE? >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THE INTENT IS MISDEMEANOR OR FELONY. EITHER OR. >>COUN. LEWIS: MAYBE I MAKE A QUICK SUGGESTION, MAYBE YOU ADD THE WORD CURRENT. CURRENT MISDEMEANOR OR FELONY CHARGE WHICH WOULD MEAN THAT THERE WAS A CURRENT WARRANT. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: IF YOU HAVE AN ACTIVE WARRANT FOR AN ARREST, THAT'S WHAT I'M INTENDED. ANY ACTIVE WARRANT. YOU HAVEN'T TAKEN CARE OF IT, YET YOU ARE STILL WANTED BY LAW ENFORCEMENT. YOUR OBLIGATION TO THE COURT HAS NOT BEEN MET. THAT'S WHAT A WARRANT MEANS. >> I THINK THERE'S A LITTLE BIT OF A POTENTIAL AMBIGUITY IN THE LANGUAGE. MAYBE COUNCILOR SANCHEZ OUGHT TO CLEAN IT UP A LITTLE BIT. THE WAY IT'S WRITTEN RIGHT NOW, IT USES THE LANGUAGE WITH A FELONY CHARGE. THAT'S PROBABLY THE MOST AMBIGUOUS WORD WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HERE. SOMEBODY WITH A WARRANT, SOMEBODY THAT NEEDS TO BE BROUGHT IN BY LAW FORCEMENT. SOMEBODY WITH A CONVICTION IS SOMEBODY THAT COMMITTED A CRIME. I'VE HEARD FOLKS TALKING ABOUT A WHOLE GAMUT OF THOSE THINGS TO THE TENGSD A CHARGE USED. THAT MAY SUGGEST SOMEONE IS PENDING ADJUDICATION OF VIOLATION. THOSE ARE THE CHOICES. ARE YOU LOOKING TO BAN FOLKS THAT ARE PENDING ADJUDICATION OF CRIMINAL VIOLATION THAT MEANS THEY HAVE BEEN CHARGED BUT NOT GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY TO FACE JUSTICE AND BE CONVICTED OR NOT? OR SOMEBODY THAT HAS ABSCONDED FROM THEIR OBLIGATION TO APPEAR OR FACED GRAND JURY CHARGE THAT RESULTED IN A WARRANT? OR SOMEBODY CARRYING AROUND A CONVICTION THAT'S BEEN ADJUDICATED AND FACED SOME LEVEL OF PUNISHMENT? WE CAN EASILY CHALLENGE IT TO SAY NO PERSON WITH A PENDING MISDEMEANOR OR FELONY WARRANT SHALL BE PERMITTED AND THAT'S CONSISTENT WITH WHAT YOU'RE GOING FOR. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU, MR. MELENDREZ. I CAN SEE BOTH POINTS. IF YOU HAVE SOMEBODY PENDING A CHARGE. LET'S SAY THEY COMMITTED THE VIOLATION AND PENDING THE CHARGE BUT DON'T HAVE A WARRANT. THEY STILL HAVEN'T BEEN CONSIDERED -- THEY'LL FACE DUE PROCESS. I'M LOOKING AT SOMEONE WITH A CURRENT OUTSTANDING WARRANT FOR THEIR ARREST. AND WHAT I'M SAYING IS THAT THEY'RE RUNNING FROM THE LAW, BASICALLY. >>COUN. DAVIS: I THINK I ASK THE SPONSOR FOR THE RULES TO SCREEN THESE FOLKS. THAT'S GETTING COMPLICATED QUICKLY. WE HAVE SOME PROPONENTS THAT SAY WE SHOULD BE CRIMINALLY CHARGING BY WAY OF CITATION FOLKS WHO ARE TRESPASSING IN PUBLIC PLACES WHICH WOULD PRECLUDE THEM FROM USING THE SAFE SPACES AS THEY ALTERNATIVE FOR THAT. THEN WHAT DO WE DO WITH THEM? WE'RE RUNNING IN CIRCLES AT 1 O'CLOCK. I I BELIEVE IF SOMEONE HAS AN ACTIVE WARRANT IF THEY HAVEN'T DEALT WITH THAT IN THE COURT. NOT ALL WARRANTS ARE ARRESTABLE. THEY HAVE TO HAVE AN ARREST CHARGE. IT REQUIRES THE PERSON TO APPEAR AT A LATER DATE. AS LONG AS THEY KNOW WHERE THEY ARE, THE COURT ALLOWED THEM TO STAY THERE. THERE'S MOVING PIECES THAT CAN BE BETTER ADDRESSED IN THE ORDINANCE COMING UP. IF NOT, WE'LL NEED TO TIGHTEN UP THIS LANGUAGE TO SAY WHAT THE SPONSOR INTENDED TO SAY. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING, CORRECT ME IF I'M WRONG, WITH SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES, IT'S WRITTEN TO SAY THIS IS BY REFERRAL. WOULDN'T WE JUST LEAVE IT UP TO WHOEVER IS GOING TO BE GIVING THE REFERRAL THROUGH THE ACTUAL MANAGEMENT PLAN AND OPERATION PLAN THROUGH FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES RATHER THAN ADD THIS TO IT? IS IT STILL WRITTEN TO WHERE THIS SAFE POUTDOOR SPACES IS REFERRAL BASED? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, THE RULES THAT THE COUNCIL AND THE LUPZ COMMITTEE SO FAR DO NOT ADDRESS THAT REFERRAL ONLY ISSUE. THE DOCUMENT IS SILENT ON THAT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, AS WELL, I AGREE WITH COUNCILOR DAVIS. THIS IS JUST CUTTING OFF OUR NOSE TO SPITE OUR FACE. THAT'S MY WORDS, NOT WHAT YOU SAID. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. MR. MELENDREZ, I WANT TO FIX THIS. WE'RE LOOKING AT INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE WARRANTS -- I DON'T MIND TAKING OUT THE MISDEMEANOR SIDE, IF YOU WANT TO PUT THE FELONY SIDE. THESE ARE INDIVIDUALS WHO HAVE ACTUALLY COMMITTED FELONY CRIMES, THEY'RE VIL LNT CRIMES OR PROPERTY CRIMES IT'S A VERY DIFFICULT SITUATION TO ALLOW SOMEONE WITH THAT DEGREE OF CRIME PENDING TO BE PLACED IN A SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE WITH OTHERS WHO ARE TRYING TO BE IN A SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. I THINK IT'S YOUR AMENDMENT AND DISCRETION TO REMOVE MISDEMEANOR IF YOU THINK THAT'S APPROPRIATE. I THINK TO CLEAR UP THE AMBIGUITY, I SUGGEST CHALLENGING THE WORD CHARGE WITH WARRANT. I'VE HEARD YOU USE THAT WORD REPEATEDLY AND IT SOUNDS CONSISTENT. IF YOU LIKE TO REMOVE MISDEMEANOR, YOU MAY DO THAT. MY PERHAPS CHANGE CHARGE TO WARRANT. THAT WOULD BE FINE. I'D LIKE TO MAKE -- REMOVE MISDEMEANOR AND LEAVE THE FELONY WARRANT IN PLACE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS, ITEM SUBWOULD READ NO PERSON WITH A FELONY WARRANT SHALL BE PERMITTED IN A SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE. THAT'S THE AMENDMENT YOU'RE VOTING ON. WOULD THE SECONDER, COUNCILOR GROUT -- [ INAUDIBLE ]. >> MR. PRESIDENT, B234 -- PROPOSES TO ADD A REQUIREMENT TO THAT MANAGEMENT PLAN TO SAY THAT ANYONE STAYING IN A SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE WOULD REQUIRE TO HOLD A GOVERNMENT ISSUED I.D. WITHIN THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: MR. PRESIDENT, THE REASON FOR THIS AMENDMENT IS AGAIN FOR THE SAFETY OF THE OCCUPANTS THAT ARE IN THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE. IF YOU'RE IN A SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE AND YOUR NEIGHBOR COMMITS A CRIME AGAINST YOU, THEN WE NEED TO HAVE A WAY TO IDENTIFY THE INDIVIDUAL WHO ACTUALLY COMMITTED THAT CRIME AGAINST THE NEIGHBOR. WITHIN THE CONFINES OF THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE. I'D LIKE TO MOVE THE AMENDMENT. >>COUN. GROUT: I'LL ONCE AGAIN SAY WE HAVE A PIECE OF LEGISLATION THAT WILL BE HEARD ON THE 22nd . >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THAT WOULD DEAL WITH HOW THESE PROJECTS WOULD BE STRUCTURED AND WHAT WOULD BE ALLOWED AND NOT ALLOWED. THAT SEEMS THE PROPER PLACE FOR THIS DISCUSSION AND THIS DETAIL. CERTAINLY NOT IN A ZONING DOCUMENT. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT. I THINK ANY OF THE SOS DISCUSSION IS REALLY WAY DOWN IN THE DETAIL WE SEE IN THE DOCUMENT. ALL RIGHT. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? WE'LL GO TO A VOTE ON FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER 17. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT FAILS ON A 3-6. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. NUMBER 18. B26. >> MR. PRESIDENT, THIS IS B25. FLOOR AMENDMENT 17. WHAT WAS JUST VOTED ON WAS FLOOR AMENDMENT 16. THIS IS LABELLED SEX OFFENDERS PROHIBITED. THIS WOULD PROPOSE TO ADD A REQUIREMENT TO THAT REQUIRED MANAGEMENT PLAN TO PROHIBIT REGISTERED SEX OFFENDERS FROM STAYING IN A SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: AGAIN, THIS AMENDMENT IS MEANT FOR THE SAFETY OF THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE GOING TO BE OCCUPYING THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT IF THIS PASSES, IF THE IDO PASSES, THAT THE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE STAYING DESERVE THE RIGHT TO KNOW IF THERE IS A SEX OFFENDER. I THINK THEY SHOULD BE RAN THROUGH THE SEX OFFENDER REGISTRY BEFORE THEY HAVE ACCESS TO SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE. AGAIN TO PROTECT THE NEIGHBOR OR WHOEVER ELSE IS GOING TO BE IN THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE WITH THAT INDIVIDUAL. THANK YOU. I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION FOR DUE PASS. >>COUN. BENTON: MOTION AND SECOND FROM COUNCILOR LEWIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY SEQUES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I'M GOING TO REPEAT WHAT I SAID. WE HAVE A PIECE OF LEGISLATION COMING UP. WE WILL BE HEARING THAT ON THE 22nd. THAT LEGISLATION SETS FORWARD WHAT THESE PROGRAMS AND PROJECTS LOOK LIKE. THAT IS THE PROPER PLACE FOR THIS KIND OF DETAIL. NOT IN A ZONING DOCUMENT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. BENTON: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT FAILS ON A 4-5 VOTE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, THAT FLOOR AMENDMENT 17 FOR B25 PASSED ON A 5-4 VOTE. >>COUN. BENTON: I'M SORRY. THANK YOU. NOW WE'RE ON FLOOR AMENDMENT 18. >> MR. PRESIDENT, FLOOR AMENDMENT 18 AMENDMENT B26 THE FINAL AMENDMENT AS FAR AS I'M AWARE. PROPOSES TO PROHIBIT SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES IN CITY COUNCIL DISTRICTS ONE, FIVE, AND NINE. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THE PURPOSE OF THIS WAS BASED ON THE FACT THAT FREQUENTLY COUNCILOR LEWIS, GROUT AND I HAVE ALWAYS HAD THE SAME IDEA WHEN IT COMES TO SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. AND WE'VE ALL OPPOSED THE SOS. AND THAT'S -- THE COUNCIL SERVICES CAME UP WITH THIS BASED ON OUR CONSISTENT VOTE AGAINST SOS PROMPTED COUNCIL DISTRICTS ONE, FIVE, AND NINE. I'D TLIEK MAKE A MOTION FOR A DUE PASS. >>COUN. BENTON: SECOND FROM COUNCILOR LEWIS. ALL THOSE -- ANY DISCUSSION? >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. PRESIDENT, I APPRECIATE THESE COUNCILORS DON'T WANT THESE IN THEIR DISTRICTS. IT'S A CITYWIDE PROBLEM. I PROPOSE AMENDMENT THAT SAY THE FIRST AMENDMENT THAT SAYS THE FIRST WILL BE IN ONE, FIVE, AND NINE. >> MR. PRESIDENT, THE COUNCIL DOES ENTERTAIN AMENDMENTS TO THE AMENDMENT. THE RESTRICTION IS THAT IN THE RULES AN AMENDMENT CANNOT BE CHANGED SO SIGNIFICANTLY AS TO COMPLETELY CHANGE ITS ORNT -- ORIGINAL PURPOSE. THAT'S A DISCRETIONARY MATTER THERE. HOWEVER, GIVEN THE SUBJECT IS STILL THE SAME, IT SEEMS TO BE WITHIN THE SCOPE OF WHAT'S ON THE TABLE. >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. PRESIDENT, I AGREE. I THINK THE SCOPE OF THE AMENDMENT IS DICTATING THE DISTRICTS IN WHICH IT CAN BE THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES CAN BE LOICATED. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION TO AMEND THE AMENDMENT. CHANGE IT TO ALLOWED ONLY IN AS OPPOSED -- [ INAUDIBLE ]. COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ'S AMENDMENT IS A SERIOUS AMENDMENT. IT'S NOT A JOKE. THAT'S WHAT COUNCILOR DAVIS'S AMENDMENT IS. IT'S A JOKE. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ'S AMENDMENT IS NOT A JOKE. WE REPRESENT PEOPLE. I REPRESENT PEOPLE IN DISTRICT FIVE. AND I CANNOT NAME ONE PERSON THAT'S EMAILED ME OR CALLED ME THAT SUPPORTS THESE TENT INCOMPANIES IN MY DISTRICT. IT'S A SERIOUS AMENDMENT. IF THAT'S WHERE WE WANT TO GO WITH THIS. THEN SO BE IT. >>COUN. DAVIS: MR. PRESIDENT, I REALIZE THAT. WE DON'T WANT TO BELABOR THIS POINT. WE CAN MAKE THIS POINT QUICK. COUNCILOR LEWIS HAS BEEN WITH US A LONG TIME. SO HAVE I. I THINK WE USUALLY DO THESE A WHOLE. WE TAKE THE VOTES AS THEY COME. WE APPLY THEM ACROSS THE CITY, WE HAVE CITYWIDE PROBLEMS, WE TAXPAYER PAYS FOR THE BENEFIT OR NOT OF US DOING THIS TOGETHER. IF THE COUNCILORS WANT TO DIVIDE IT, WE WANT TO MAKE US ALL INCLUDE IT. >>COUN. BASSAN: FOR THE RECORD, I'LL SECOND THAT AMENDMENT. HOWEVER I JUST WANT TO ALSO SAY I DON'T SUPPORT EITHER AMENDMENT. IT DEFEATS THE PURPOSE TO PICK WHETHER IT'S THE FIRST DISTRICT OR NOT WHEN WE NEED TO LOOK AT WHERE THE NEED IS WHERE IS THE PROPERTY THAT WILL ACTUALLY SUIT THE NEED FOR FULFILLING THE DUTY THAT WE'RE TRYING TO ACHIEVE WHEN IT COMES TO CREATING SPACE FOR THE UNHOUSED POPULATION TO END UP GOING. IT'S NOT ABOUT MY BACKYARD OR YOUR BACKYARD OR THEIR BACKYARD. IT'S REALLY DEFEATING THE PURPOSE. I DON'T SUPPORT EITHER OF THESE. THIS IS A CITYWIDE ISSUE. IT HAPPENS TO BE ONE DISTRICT OVER THE OTHER, IT'S BENEFICIAL FOR REAL REASONING. I THINK THAT'S SOMETHING WE SHOULD LOOK AT. >>COUN. GROUT: MR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU. I REPRESENT CONSTITUENTS IN DISTRICT NINE. I CAN'T TELL YOU -- MAYBE I'VE RECEIVED TWO EMAILS WHERE PEOPLE SAID BRING IT ON. I WANT ONE IN MY DISTRICT. EVERYBODY HAS OPPOSED IT. IT'S NOT MY VOTE. IT'S MY CONSTITUENTS I'M VOTING FOR. >>COUN. LEWIS: SO COUNCILOR DAVIS DIDN'T WITHDRAW THAT. THAT WILL MAKE A MOCKERY OF THIS COUNCILEN TONIGHT. LET'S VOTE. >>COUN. BENTON: IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. IT WAS SECONDED BY COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. -- BY COUNCILOR BASSAN. IT WAS SECONDED BY COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. AT THIS POINT, I AGREE THAT -- WELL. I WON'T WEIGH IN ON IT. I THINK WE NEED TO GO TO A VOTE. UNLESS YOU HAVE SOMETHING ESSENTIAL THAT NEEDS TO BE ADDED, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. LAWS AND RULEERIZE MADE TO PROTECT THE CITIZENS OF ALBUQUERQUE. WE ALREADY HAVE A CITY SANCTIONED ENCAMPMENT AT CORONADO PARK THAT NEEDS TO BE DEALT WITH AND FIXED. THIS WHOLE ENTIRE IDO PROCESS. >>COUN. BENTON: YOU'RE OUT OF ORDER. THIS IS AN AMENDMENT TO THIS BILL. IF YOU'RE MAKING A CLOSING STATEMENT OF SOME KIND I'M NOT GOING TO ALLOW IT. I'M SORRY. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: MR. PRESIDENT, I'M TALKING WHAT ABOUT WHAT I BELIEVE IS WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE IN REFERENCE TO THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT SUBJECT. WE ALL HAVE TO DEAL WITH WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF OUR CONSTITUENTS. >>COUN. BENTON: YOU'RE OUT OF ORDER. IT'S NOT GERMANE TO THE MOTION. THE MOTION ON THE TABLE HAS BEEN STATED. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: EXACTLY. >>COUN. BENTON: FLS YOU WANT TO OVERRULE MY RULING. THAT STANDS. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: I'D LIKE TO MAKE MOTION TO OVERRULE YOUR RULING. >>COUN. BENTON: THAT'S A PRESIDENT NOW. THE DECISION OF THE CHAIR WAS TO NOT ALLOW THAT CONTINUED DISCUSSION. >> MR. PRESIDENT, THAT IS THE DISCUSSION OF THE CHAIR TO DO SO. LIKE EVERY DECISION OF THE CHAIR, IT IS SUBJECT TO APPEAL. IN ORDER TO HAVE THAT APPEAL MOVE FORWARD, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ HAS MADE HIS MOTION TO APPEAL THAT DECISION TO MOVE TO THE VOTE. ESSENTIALLY, IF HE IS SUCCESSFUL IN GETTING THE SECOND AND A MAJORITY VOTE I THINK TIEING THE RULES INTO THIS, HE CAN EXERCISE HIS PERSONAL PRIVILEGE AS A COUNCILOR AT THIS TIME AS OPPOSED TO AT A VIEM TIME WHEN AN ISN'T PENDING. >>COUN. BENTON: IS THERE A SECOND TO OVERRULE THE DECISION OF THE CHAIR? AN AFFIRMATIVE VOTE IS TO OVERRULE MY DECISION TO END DEBATE AND TO VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE MOTION SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? I SEE TWO. THREE. LAST CHANCE. THAT FAILS ON 3-6. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT. POINT OF CLARIFICATION. I HONESTLY BELIEVE THAT IF THOSE WERE CLOSING ARGUMENTS, WE WILL HAVE TIME TO DO THAT. WE HAVE TWO AMENDMENT HONEST THE FLOOR. I BELIEVE THE CLAR WILL GIVE US THE TIME NECESSARY. >>COUN. BENTON: THAT WAS MY POINT. WE'RE BACK ON THE AMENDMENT TO THE AMENDMENT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF THE AMENDMENT AS STATED BY COUNCILOR DAVIS SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT FAILS ON A 2-7 VOTE. WE'RE BACK ON THE AMENDMENT AS IT WAS ORIGINALLY PUT FORTH BY COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. WITHOUT ANY CHANGES, I THINK WE'VE DEBATED THAT AT THIS POINT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT FAILS ON A 3-6 VOTE. IS THAT OUR LAST AMENDMENT? >> MR. PRESIDENT. YES THAT CONCLUDES THE AMENDMENT FOR O-22-10. IT'S THE PURVIEW OF THE COUNCIL AT THIS TIME TO VOTE ON THE BILL AS AMENDED. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILORS, WE HAVE SOME CLOSING ARGUMENTS THAT ARE DESIRED. WOULD YOU LIKE TO EXTEND? >>COUN. JONES: MR. PRESIDENT, YES. I DON'T KNOW IF I WANT TO SUSPEND THE RULES. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE TO RECONSIDER AMENDMENT B18 ON DISTRICT. >>COUN. BENTON: SHE DID VOTE AGAINST IT. WHILE THEY'RE MULLING ON THAT, COUNCILOR JONES, I'M GOING TO MOVE THAT WE SUSPEND THE RULES AGAIN TO EXTEND THE MEETING UNTIL A QUARTER UNTIL MIDNIGHT. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND TO SUSPEND THE RULES. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR JONES DID VOTE NO ON FLOOR AMENDMENT 11 RELATED TO B18. >>COUN. BENTON: WHICH ONE WAS THAT? >> FLOOR AMENDMENT 11, LABELLED B18. >>COUN. BENTON: CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT ONE SO WE'RE ON THE SAME PAGE? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR JONES, IT PROPOSED TO REDUCE THE CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT CAP FOR SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES FROM FIVE PER CITY COUNCIL DISTRICT TO TWO. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION. A VOTE IN THE AFFIRMATIVE WILL RECONSIDER THE VOTE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? 5-4? OKAY. THIS WILL BE RECONSIDERED. THIS WAS THE AMENDMENT THAT I PREVIOUSLY STATED WHICH REDUCED THE TOTAL OF NUMBER OF SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES TO FIVE. ANY FURTHER DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES 5-4. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL AS AMENDED. WE HAVE A COUPLE MORE ITEMS OF BUSINESS TO GET TO T CLOSING STATEMENT. I WANT TO RECOGNIZE COUNCILOR NCHEZ FIRST BECAUSE I CUT HIM OFF RUDELY. >>COUN. SANCHEZ:HANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. AS I WAS SAYING WE'R WORKI WITH OUR CONSTITUENTS. WEARRYING TO DO WHAT'S RIGHT FOR WHAT OURONSTITUENTS WANT US TO DO. AS WE HEARD TOY, IT WAS 17 PEOPLE THAT WER AGAINST SOS VERSUS FOUR THATERE FOR SOS. WHAT WE'RE DEALING WITH IS SOCIAL ISSUEERSUS A ZONING ISSUE. THIS SHOULD HAVE BEEN STRAIGHTEN OUT IMMEDIATELY AND TAKEN A SPLIT UP. RIGHT OFF THE BAT. WE'REOSING OUT ON SOME VALUABLE TI IN REFERENCE T ZONING ISSUES THAT COULD AND HOULD HAVE PASSED. INSTEAD, W DEALING WITH SAFE OUTDOR SPACES WHI IS GOING TO BE AN ISSUE THAT WE'REOING TO BE DEALING WITH JUST LIKE TH DOJ AD JUST LIKE OUR AT PROJECT. THISIS NOTOING TO GO AY, ONCE WEUT THIS IN PLAC, NO MATTER W HAPPENS, IT DOESN WHAT THERIME IS INLVED, I ESN'T MATTER WHAT WE SEE AS AN ISSUE, WE'RE GOING TO BETUCK WITH THIS I THIN IT'S SOMETHINGHAT I THINHE PEOE SHOULD DECIDE ON A BLOT ITEAD OF BEING DECED RHT HERE. THIS IS SOMETHINGHAT IS GREATER THAN US. AND WE SHOULD AUALLY HAVE CITIZENS OF ALBUQUEQUE WEIGH IN IS. I THINK WELREADY HAVE SANCTIONED ENCAMEN BEINGAN ILLEGALLY AND THAT SANONED INKAFRMN NEEDS TO BE OUREST OUND. T NEEDS TO BE A PLACE WHERE WE GO IN WITH THE S IDS WE HAVEN REF RRNS WHHE SAFE OUTDOR SPAC AND HANDLE AS SUC WE KNOASED ON I DCUSSION HY DO HAVE THE BEDS, WEAV TH RESOUES TO DEAL HAT WE' DEALING WITHUT WE REFUE DO IT IT IMRTANT WE TKE OUR HEADS OUT OFHE SAND AND TKE OUR BLINDERS OFF A WE DRIVE DO CITY HALL LOCATON TO DO OUR JOB AND DO OUROB RIGHT HE AT CONADO PARK. NEEDO FIND WAY TO ME IT WORK. WE CA MAKE THA WO, THAT'S ACUMSTANCE S -- SUCSS STORYND WEOVE FROM THERE. IT'SMPORTANT TNFORCE T LAWS AT THE LOWESTELS TOET TO THE INDIVIDUALS THAT NEED HELP. EY'REEINGTIMIZED AND TAKEN ADVANTAGE OF EVERY DAY. HEN I WENT TO THE CLEAN UP A CORONARK, THERE WAS AN INDIVIDUAL GUARDING T BATHROOMS. YOUAD TO YN EORTI FEE TOSE T BATHROOM AT CORADO PARK. THSE THGS NEE T BE ENFORCED. WE HAVE AI BLDING NTO CODOARK THAT I VACANT. AND WE OWN THAT BUDING. THAT BUILDG IS NT BEIN ILIZD IN ANYPOR BECAUSE O TH PROBLE WEAV CORONA PARK. THINK W NEED TOALLY ALLY, THI ABOUT WHATE'RE DOINGHE. THERE'S ALWA AAYE C TUAL VOTE DO T IDO ART OVR. DEAL WITH SE OUTDOO SPACES IN T MER T IT NEEDS TO BE DLTITH AND ALSO SS TH AMENDMENTS WEE TO BE PSE TO ME FORWARO SEPARATE THOCIA ISSUES FROM T CODISSUES. THANK U. >>COUNLEWIS:HANK YOU, PRESENT. I WANTE TO IN CLOSG, I KNOW WE HAD A LOTF DCUSSIONS ABOUT THIS. IT'S B A GOOD WHILE THOU. SOME OF TS ISROMEOP THA HAVE EMAILED THE COUNCIL AND INFOATION THEVE GVENUS. AND SOME JUSOBEGIN RESEARCH AND LOOKING WHAS GOIN AROUND E COUNTRY. THAT'S EXACTL WT THIS IS. RERDLESS OFHATEME IT TOGHT,HAT WASLRDY AMENDED WITIN THI BILL IS APPROVAL O REALLYY SATIEDEN ENCAMPMENTS. THEYVE BEEN SD ASE INVATIVE AND DNG SOMEING. IROPOSE THEYEOTNEW. THEY'RE NOT INNOVATIVE. THERE'SITIE WITH TENT INKACHALYS ALL OVER THE COUNTRY. ANY ARE GOING BACK TO CLEING CAMPS AND ENFORCINGRESPASSG AND LOITERING LAWS. SEATTLE, THE' ADLINES. SEATTLE CS AFTER ADMING ILE. PORTLAND, SETLE, LA, CLEARG ENMPMENTS FOR GOOD DENVER SEES MASVENCREASE IN HOMELESS DESPIT SA OUTDR SPACES. TH WAS IN T DENVER POSE I JUNE. CITIES AREHANGING COURSE, CLEARINGMESS MPS, NEW YORK ITY RESIDS FUROUS OVER HOMELE EAMPMENTS INQUEENS. THAT WASN THEEWORK POST. TORONTO WANTS TO DEMOLISH TENT AND ENFORCINGOIRING AND ESPAING LAWS. SA SAND. LT LAKE CITYSETLE. REVERSE SUPRT OF TENT I ENMPS. THDENVER POST IN MAY O21, NVER'S ANNUAL PER PERSON SPENDINGS TWICEHE COST OF A HOMELES ENCAMPME RAN BY SAN FRANCIS COS THE CITY $10,000 PER YEAR PER TENT. TWICE THE COST OF MEDN COST OF NE BEDROO PER EATENT. THE CHRONICLE REPORTED TAT IN JUNE 2021. THAID THAT WITH T AMOUN MONEY THAT SAN FRANCISC IS PENDING PER TENT, TY COULD PUT UP TWO FAMILES IN A NICE DOWNTOWN SAN FRANCISCO APARTME FOR A YEAR. THE CIZENSF THIS CITY DON'T SUPPORTENT ENCAMPMENTS. WEE RECEIVED MSZIVE AMOUNT OF EMAILS AND CALLS A CITIZENS WHO OOS IENCAMPMENTS. I DON'T KNOW ONE NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION OR COALITION THAT SUPPOR THIS. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OTHER ORGANIZATION IN T CITY THAT ENRSED THE GOVERNMENT SANCTIONED TENT ENCAMPMENT WHAT IS WFR BEFORE DUS. THE CITY OF . >>COUN. LEWIS: IN MISSOURI THE'S A BILL TO ADVANCING TO BAN TEN IN RESPONSE TO HOMELESS TT VILLAGES. DENVER IMPLEMENTED A SANCTIONED ENCAMPMENT WHERE RESIDENTSEGAN AN APPEAL PROCESS TO REMOVE THEM. 67 CITIES REPORTED TO MOVE ENCAMPMENT. WE'RE SPENDING MASSIVE AMOUNTS F MONEY. WE RUN A WEST SIDE SHELTER AND THERE'S OVER 200 BEDS UNUSED OVERNIGHT AT OUR CITY FUNDED SHELTERS. THE CITY CONTRACTS WITH TEN HOMELESS ORGANIZATIONS THAT PROVIDE SHELTER. THE CITY BOUGHT THE GIBSON HOMELESS CENTER. $15 MILLION. THAT IS ANOTHER$5 MILLION FOR CONSTRUCTION AND OPERATIONS. WE FUNDED OVER $25 MILLION IN HOUSING VOUCHERS IN THIS BUDGET AND ANOTHER $20 MILLION BUDGET IN THIS GRT PACKAGE. A LARGE PERCENT WERE HOMELESS IN ANOTHER CITY BEFORE THEY CAME TO ALBUQUERQUE. SHOULD ALBUQUERQUE BE ACCOUNTABLE FOR THOSE COMING FROM OTHER CITYS ? THREE OUT OF PEOPLE THAT THEY TRANSPORT TO THE WEST SIDE SHELTER SAID THEY WERE ALREADY HOMELESS BEFORE THEY CAME TO ALBUQUERQUE. AND THEY CAME BECAUSE THEY HEARD ALBUQUERQUE WOULD LEAVE THEM ALONE. AND THE AGENCY COUNSELING ON HOMELESS PROVIDES CAUTION. EXACTLY WHAT'S BEFORE US TONIGHT. INTERAGENCY COUNCIL ON HOMELESSNESS FEDERAL AGENCY AND THE AGENCY CAUTIONS THE APPROACH SAY THEY'RE COSTLY, DON'T PROVIDE A SOLUTION TO HOMELESSNESS. THIS IS WAS IN MAMAY 2018 REPORT. CREATING THESE ENVIRONMENTS MAY LOOK AND FEEL LIKE THE COMMUNITY TOOK ACTION TO END LOAM THEY'RE COSTLY, IN MONEY, STAFF, TIME AND EFFORT. THEY PROVE DIFFICULT TO MANAGE AND MAINTAIN. THEY PROPOSE AS TEMPORARY APPROACHES AND THEY'RE DIFFICULT TO CLOSE ONCE THEY OPEN. WE TALKED ABOUT IN THIS PROCESS A LOT OF THINGS WE SHOULD DO. CONVERSATIONS ABOUT WHAT WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. WELL, I DO BELIEVE WE SHOULD CREATE A MORE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN THAT INCLUDES ALL OF THE ORGANIZATIONS THAT PROVIDE TEMPORARY SHELTER WITH HEAT, RUNNING WATER, DRUG TREATMENT, MENTAL HEALTH. OTHER PROGRAMS THAT MEET THE NEEDS OF UNSHELTERED. WE SHOULD -- THE AMOUNT OF THOSE ON THE STREETS BUT ALSO THE AVAILABLE BEDS AND THOSE WHO WANT THEM. ENSURE MILLIONS OF CITY DOLLARS THAT FUND MENTAL HEALTH ARE FOCUSED ON THOSE THAT ARE ON THE STREETS. THERE'S SOLUTIONS TO THIS. COMPLETING THE $15 MILLION AN $5 MILLION IN THE BUDGET GATEWAY CENTER AND GET IT HELPING PEOPLE PROVIDING SERVICES. AND CLEAR INKACHALITYS. AND FORCE TRESPASSING LAWS. DWLNG SOLUTIONS ARE IN . >>COUN. LEWIS: I DON'T BELIEVE THE SOLUTION IS IN THIS BILL BEFORE US. WE SHOULD NOT APPROVE THIS. IF IT WERE FOR ONLY THE FACT THAT PEOPLE IN THE CITY DON'T SUPPORT IT. PASS THIS TONIGHT, IT SHOULD GO -- WE SHOULDN'T PASS THIS TONIGHT AND WE'RE REALLY PASSIONATE ABOUT PROPOSING THIS, WE SHOULD PUT IT BEFORE THE VOTERS IN NOVEMBER. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. PEÑA: NEXT IS . >>COUN. GROUT: I CONCUR WITH EVERYTHING THAT COUNCILOR LEWIS SAID. WE HAVE RECEIVED SO MANY EMAILS ALL OF US HAVE RECEIVED ALL OF THESE IMAILS. AND THE VAST MAJORITY OPPOSE THESE TENT ENCAMPMENTS. I WANT TO READ JUST A COUPLE. THESE ARE FROM PEOPLE THAT SENT EMAILS TO ALL OF US. WE WANT TO HELP THE HOMELESS. THAT'S WHY WE VOTED FOR THE GATEWAY HAVE AND TINY HOUSES. THERE'S THE WEST SIDE SHELTER, JOY JUNCTION AND OTHER OPTIONS. I REALIZE THERE ARE HOMELESS THAT DO NOT WANT TO UTILIZE THESE FACILITIES, BUT THOSE ARE HAD OPTIONS THEY HAVE TO CHOOSE FROM. WE ARE ALL GIVEN CHOICES IN LIFE AND WE'RE REQUIRED TO CHOOSE FROM THEM. THE HOMELESS ARE NOT SPECIAL. THEY NEED TO CHOOSE FROM GIVEN OPTIONS JUST LIKE THE REST OF US. WE DO NOT NEED TO ADD ENCAMPMENTS AS AN OPTION. THEY HAVE PLENTY OF AUCHGZS ALREADY. WE PAY TAXES TO ENJOY BIKE TRAIL AND OPEN SPACES. I WON'T FEEL SAFE USING THEM OR CHILDREN USING THEM WITH HOMELESS CAMPS ON THEM. THESE ENCAMPMENTS WILL BE NEAR HOMES AND THEY MAKE ME SCARED FOR MY SAFETY. APD WORKS HARD TO KEEP US SAFE AND THESE ENCAMPS WILL MAKE ALBUQUERQUE LESS SAFE. I BELIEVE THAT THE WORD IS ALREADY ON OUT ON THE STREET. THAT ALBUQUERQUE IN ALBUQUERQUE YOU CAN CAMP ANYWHERE AND THERE'S NO RULES. ONCE WE ADD SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES AS A PERMISSIVE YOU'VE -- THIS PURPOSE THE PROBLEM . >>COUN. GROUT: WE NEED TO BE HELPING THESE PEOPLE NOT ENABLING THIS. WE NEED TO DIRECT PEOPLE TO REAL SHELTERS WITH HEAT AND RUNNING WATER AND TREATMENT FOR MENTAL HEALTH AND ADDICTION. THAT'S WHAT PEOPLE NEED. IF THERE AREN'T ENOUGH AVAILABLE SHELTERS, WE NEED TO BUILD THEM. SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES ARE ANOTHER WAY TO WAREHOUSE PEOPLE AND THAT'S NOT RIGHT OR HUMANE. I KNOW THE ANSWER WE'LL GET FROM THE ADMINISTRATION THAT NOT EVERYONE WANTS TO GROW TO A SHELTER. I GET THAT. THERE'S ACCOUNTABILITY IN SHELTERS. I'M ACCOUNTABLE TO THE CONSTITUENTS WHO WRITE AND TELL ME TO STOP THIS MADNESS. WE SHOULDN'T BE DOING THIS. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILORS, OTHER COMMENTS? COUNCILOR BASSAN. >> NARRATOR: MR. GLNG . >>COUN. BASSAN: SAFE OUTDOOR SAYS IS NOT THE SAME AS ENCAMPS ARE NOT THE SAME. THEY'RE VERY DIFFERENT. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. OTHER COUNCILORS? COUNCILOR JONES. SHE'S THE CO-SPONSOR. >>COUN. JONES: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I KNOW WE HAVE MIXED EMOTIONS ABOUT THIS. ALL OF US DO. WE ALSO HAVE VERY STRONG EMOTIONS WHEN WE DRIVE DOWN ALL OF YOUR CITY STREETS. WE HAVE STRONG EMOTIONS WHEN WE DRIVE DOWN CENTRAL AND SEE WHAT HAPPENED TO THE CITY. ALL OVER THE CITY. THE IDEA OF PUTTING PEOPLE INTO TENTS IS NOT SOMETHING I WOULD LIKE TO SEE. BUT THE IDEA OF PEOPLE LIVING, SLEEPING, AND DOING ALL KINDS OF THINGS IN STOREFRONTS, THE NEEDLES, DRUG USE, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S A SIMPLE SOLUTION TO ANY OF THIS. I BELIEVE DOING THE SAME THING OVER AND OVER IS A PRETTY GOOD SIGN THAT WE'RE NOT DOING THINGSIECTLY. I WOULD HOPE THAT WE WOULD SIT BACK AND MAYBE ADDRESS THIS DASH I DON'T KNOW HOW THE CHAIR WANTS TO HANDLE IT. PERHAPS WE NEED TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF MORE MEETINGS AND MORE OPPORTUNITY TO DO THINGS. FOE MATTER WHAT WE VOTE ON, NOTHING WILL HAPPEN ON ANY KIND OF SITUATION. I THINK WE NEED TO KIND OF THINK ABOUT IT AND SEE WHAT WE DO. I LOVE TO HAVE THE PEOPLE OFF THE STREETS AND OUT OF MY PARKS WHERE THE KIDS ARE GOING TO BE PLAYING SOON. YES. I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DO IT. WE HAVE TO BE DOING IT LEGALLY. I'M NOT SURE IF WE CAN DEFER THIS. I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. BENTON: YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO MOVE A DEFERRAL, IF YOU WISH. >>COUN. JONES: I MOVE DO DEFER THIS UNTIL THE FIRST MEETING IN AUGUST. >>COUN. GROUT: SECOND. >>COUN. BENTON: BEFORE WE START DISCUSSING THIS, I'M GOING TO ASK MS. SHULZ TO CLUE IN AS TO HOW THIS AFFECTS THE ANNUAL UPDATES. THE ONGOING PROCESS WITH THE IDO. WE'RE ALL FOCUSED ON SOS. AND WE'RE FORGETTING ZONING CODE ANNUAL UPDATE WHICH HAS BEEN TAKEN OVER BY THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE. I'M GOING TO HAVE TO MOVE ONE MORE TIME, I APOLOGIZE FOR NOT MAKING IT LONGER. I'M GOING TO THROW IN THE TOWEL AND SAY UNTIL 12:15. THERE'S A SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES. OPPOSED? WE'RE BACK. MS. SHULZ, COULD YOU TELL US BASED ON DEFERRAL UNTIL AUGUST, AND MAYBE MR. BARELA WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THAT. >> MR. PRESIDENT, THERE'S TWO TIMING CONSIDERATIONS WITH THAT MOTION TO DEFER. THE FIRST IS AUGUST IS WHEN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT STARTS COMMRIELING CHANGE FOR THE 2022 UPDATE. IF IN2021 IS NOT FINALIZED, I'M NOT SURE THIGH CAN STAY ON FOR THE ANNUAL UPDATE PROCESS. SECOND, THE B13 AMENDMENT THAT PASSED THAT HAS A SIX-MONTH EFFECTIVE PERIOD. IF THIS GETS DEFERRED UNTIL AUGUST THAT DOES PUSH OUT SIX-MONTH PERIOD FOR THE CHANGES TO THE DEVELOPMENT REVIEW BOARD AND THE DEVELOPMENT HEARING OFFICER SET UP. >> I AGREE. OF COURSE, DEFERRING TO WHATEVER DATE COUNCIL CHOOSES IS UP TO CITY COUNCIL. IT DOES PUSH EVERYTHING BACK. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR JONES. >>COUN. JONES: I UNDERSTAND IT WILL PUSH EVERYTHING BACK. THERE WILL BE INCONVENIENCE. WE HAVE A REAL DILEMMA THAT NEEDS TO BE SOLVED. WE'VE AGREED WHAT A MESS AND WHAT A DEBACLE WE HAVE IN THE CITY. AND I THINK TO PUSH THIS FORWARD QUICKLY SO WE CAN DO THE IDO AMENDMENT OR WHATEVER, WE CAN GET AROUND THAT. I THINK WE NEED TO MAKE A DECISION AS A CITY. AND THE COUNCIL TAKES A LEAD. AND HOPEFULLY THE ADMINISTRATION WILL HELP. WE NEED TO DO SOMETHING. WE NEED TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO START MAKINGORY CITY OUR CITY AGAIN. I HAVE NO PROBLEM IF WE RUN LATE ON THE IDO AND SOME OF THE OTHER THINGS. WE NEED TO FINALLY SIT BACK AND SAY THIS ISN'T WORKING FOR ANYBODY. IT'S NOT WORKING FOR THE HOMELESS PEOPLE. IT'S NOT WORK UGFOR THE CITIZENS AND IT'S NOT WORKING FOR THE BUSINESS PEOPLE OF OUR CITY. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT. IF WE VOTE ON THIS TONIGHT, I DON'T WANT THIS TO PASS. I DON'T AGREE WITH IT. AT THE SAME TIME, I'M NOT SURE WHAT A DEFERRAL IS GOING TO DO. I THINK WHAT WE HAVE IS A BILL. THE ONLY WAY TO CHANGE THIS BILL AT THIS POINT IS TO COMPLETELY EITHER WITHDRAW IT ENTIRELY OR VOTE IT DOWN. THIS IS A SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES BILL. THIS IS A CITY SANCTIONED TENT ENCAMPMENT BILL RIGHT NOW. UNFORTUNATELILY, THERE'S OTHER GOOD AMENDMENTS IN HERE. THERE'S OTHER GOOD AMENDMENTS TO THE IDO. THAT'S WHY WE'RE IN THE MESS IS BECAUSE WE HAVE ONE BILL THAT DEALS WITH A WIDE RANGE OF THINGS. A BIG PART OF IT THAT THE CITY DOESN'T AGREE WITH. WHILE I AGREE WITH OTHER AMENDMENTS IN HERE, I DON'T KNOW WHAT A DEFERRAL IS GOING TO DO UNLESS THERE'S A WAY TO ABSOLUTELY SEPARATE OUT EVERY AMENDMENT IN THIS BILL, WHICH AS IT STANDS RIGHT NOW, AGAIN THE ONLY THING WE COULD DO TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT WOULD BE TO WITHDRAW THIS BILL OR VOTE A NO VOTE TONIGHT AND WE START OVER WITH IT. I'D RATHER WE VOTE ON THIS BILL TONIGHT AND IF WE'RE GOING TO WAIT UNTIL AUGUST THERE'S PLENTY OF TIME TO INTRODUCE ANOTHER BILL WITH SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES ON IT. AND ANOTHER BILL WITH ALL OF THE OTHER AMENDMENTS THAT THERE'S GENERAL CONSENSUS ON. OTHERWISE, IF YOU AGREE WITH SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES, VOTE ON IT TONIGHT. >>COUN. BENTON: ANYONE ELSE JUMPING IN? I'M GOING TO. I TOTALLY DISAGREE WITH THE MOTION. AND I WILL NOT SUPPORT IT. AND I'LL DISAGREE WITH YOUR CHARACTERIZATION OF IT, COUNCILOR LEWIS. THIS IS THE ZONING CODE UPDATE. AS REQUIRED BY THE CITY PLANNING STRUCTURE. WHAT HAPPENED WAS AN OUTLIER CAME IN AT THE END OF A VERY LENGTHY PROCESS THAT WAS SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. AND, YOU KNOW, IT GAINED SOME TEAM AND INTEREST, THEN THE CONCERN AROSE DOES IT MEET ZONING, THE ANSWER WAS NO. THERE'S NOTHING OF THIS SORT ANTICIPATED IN THE CURRENT ZONING CODE. AND AWAY WE WENT. FOR THE LAST TWO MONTHS TALKING ABOUT SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. I MIGHT POINT OUT THAT I DON'T KNOW OF ONE ORGANIZATION IN THIS CITY WHO IS OFFERED OR PUT THEMSELVES FORTH TO OPERATE ONE OF THESE WITH THE EXCEPTION OF A SMALL RELIGIOUS CONGREGATION IN MY DISTRICT THAT MIGHT BE ABLE TO FIT EIGHT OR TEN TENTS ON THEIR PARKING LOT. I DON'T KNOW OF ONE. I ALSO DON'T KNOW OF THE MAJOR PROVIDERS OF HOMELESS SERVICES THAT SAID THEY LIKE THE IDEA OF SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES. SOMETHING THAT HAS GAINED STEAM. I THINK IT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS SOME SMALL NICHE OF VIABILITY AND HELPFULNESS. AND I SAW THE ONES IN DENVER. I SAW WHAT I SAW, AS YOUR NEWS REPORT SAID, COUNCILOR LEWIS, IT DID NOT SOLVE THE HOMELESS PROBLEM. BUT PEOPLE WERE LIVING THERE. AND IT WAS ORDERLY AND IT WAS NOT ANYTHING LIKE CORONADO PARK. I'M REPEATING MYSELF NOW. ALSO THIS WHOLE THING ABOUT THEY'RE DIFFICULT TO CLOSE. WE JUST PASSED AN AMENDMENT THAT SAID THEY CAN'T LAST MORE THAN TWO YEARS. THAT BLOWS THAT ARGUMENT OUT OF THE WATER. I REALLY THINK WE'RE ARGUING OVER ONE LITTLE ASPECT THAT HAS SORT OF COMMANDEERED. AGAIN, REALLY QUALIFIED PROVIDERS DON'T EVEN LIKE IT. I LIKE IT AS A POSSIBLE TEST. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL TO QUESTION. WE'RE ON DEFERRAL, I THINK. >>COUN. BENTON: WE HAVE THE MOTION FOR DEFERRAL. IT'S A SIGNIFICANT MOTION. THERE'S A MOTION TO CALL TO QUESTION. >> THAT NEEDS A SECOND. >>COUN. BENTON: MOTION TO CALL INTO QUESTION, THIS REQUIRES A MAJORITY VOTE. THERE'S A MOTION TO CALL TO QUESTION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES. SO, WE'RE BACK ON THE QUESTION. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF O-22-AS AMENDED. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF DEFERRAL UNTIL AUGUST 1, SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? DID YOU GET THE VOTES? 1-8. THAT FAILS. ALL RIGHT. BACK TO THE BILL. I'LL STOP TALKING IF EVERYBODY ELSE WILL. THAT'S A PROMISE. WE'RE ON O-22. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT FAILS ON A 4-5 VOTE. WE'LL DEAL WITH THAT LATER. WE'LL GO ON TO THE AGENDA. NEXT ON OUR AGENDA IS COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN'S. C-O-18. UNLESS I LEFT ANYTHING BEHIND? >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THIS IS O-18 AMENDING THE ALBUQUERQUE RETAILERS MEAT MARKETS TO REVISE INSPECTION FRECK WAENS, UPDATE PERMIT PROCESS, REVISE PROCEDURES AND REGULATE EDIBLE CANNABIS PRODUCTS. THIS IS BY YES THAT WE NEED TO UPDATE THE ORDINANCE THAT IT WOULD ALLOW THE ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH DEPARTMENT TO REGULATE EDIBLE CANNABIS PRODUCTS WHICH ARE NEW TO THE MARKET. THERE IS AN AMENDMENT THAT WE SHOULD MOVE ON IT. MOTION MOVE TO PASS O-18. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND FOR THE AMENDMENT. I THOUGHT I HEARD SOMEBODY ELSE SECOND. THE SECOND WAS FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. MOTION AND A SECOND AND AN AMENDMENT. >>COUN. DAVIS: I BELIEVE IT'S MY AMENDMENT. MR. MOYA HAS IT AHEAD OF TIME. THIS AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. THIS ADDS THE LANGUAGE WE DISCUSSED PREVIOUSLY AT THE COMMITTEE WHICH DIFFERENTIATES BETWEEN PRODUCTS AND PROCESSES FOR ROLLING YOUR OWN AT HOME. I MOVE AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. >>COUN. BENTON: THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND FOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. DISCUSSION? SEEING NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR? >>COUN. DAVIS: THE ORIGINAL BILL SAID ALL THE CANNABIS PRODUCTS COULD BE COVERED JUST LIKE FOOD PRODUCTS. WE NEEDED TO MAKE A DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE RAW FLOUR TAKEN OFF THE PLANT, TESTED AT THE STATE LEVEL AND PUT ON THE SHELF. WE'RE PUTTING A DISTINCTION BETWEEN THE RAW FLOUR AND ONES TURNED INTO EDIBLES LIKE A COMMERCIAL KITCHEN. >>COUN. BENTON: ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: I'D LIKE TO ASK THE SPONSOR WHEN READING IT, IT LOOKS LIKE THERE'S A CHANGE BETWEEN THE TIME OF INSPECTIONS. AND I JUST WANTED TO GET SOME CLARIFICATION ON THAT. I STILL THINK THE INSPECTION SHOULD STAY WHERE THEY'RE AT. WE'RE ON THE AMENDMENT? OKAY. GOT IT. SORRY. >>COUN. DAVIS: I DON'T THINK THERE'S ANYMORE DISCUSSION. [ INAUDIBLE ]. >>COUN. LEWIS: MR. PRESIDENT. MR. PRESIDENT, I THINK THE ONLY WAY THE BEST WAY TO DO THIS WOULD BE TO -- IS THERE DISCUSSION? THAT'S WHAT I'M TALKING ABOUT, I'M ADDRESSING THE RECONSIDERATION. OKAY. WHAT I'M SAYING IS I DON'T BELIEVE WE HAVE TO RECONSIDER THIS. IF COUNCILOR JONES IS WANTING AND CONCERNED ABOUT THE OTHER UPDATES AND AMENDMENTS TO THE IDO, WE CAN BRING THESE UP AGAIN. WE CAN BRING THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACES AND WE CAN BRING UP THE OTHER AMENDMENTS THAT WE VOTED ON TONIGHT. WE CAN DO THIS SEPARATELY, WHICH WOULD BE SO MUCH CLEANER. I THINK IT WOULD CERTAINLY ADDRESS WHAT COUNCILOR JONES IS CONCERNED ABOUT RIGHT NOW. MAYBE OUR STAFF COULD ADDRESS THAT. WE COULD COME UP. ESPECIALLY IF THERE WAS A DEFERRAL UNTIL AUGUST THAT'S PLENTY OF TIME TO COME UP WITH TWO SEPARATE UPDATES OR THINGS WE CAN LOOK AT AND VOTE ON SEPARATELY. IF THIS WERE TO COME UP AGAIN. IF WE WERE TO PROPOSE SOME OF THE AMENDMENTS AGAIN. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: I THINK WE CAN MOVE THIS PRETTY QUICK. IF WE'RE ALL IN AGREEMENT. I THINK WE CAN GET WITH IT AND GET IT DONE. AND SEPARATE EVERYTHING AND BE IN THE MIX REALLY QUICK. >>COUN. LEWIS: I WOULD LIKE IF OUR STAFF WOULD ADDRESS, WHAT WOULD BE A PATHWAY FORWARD IF WE WERE TO DO A NEW UPDATE. WHAT WOULD BE A NEW PATH WAY? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR LEWIS, IF THE VOTE THAT JUST HAPPENED IS SUSTAINED AND NOT RECONSIDERED, THERE'S TWO OPTIONS FOR PUTTING FORTH NEW AMENDMENTS TO THE IDO. ONE IS THROUGH THE ANNUAL UPDATE PROCESS. THE NORMAL PROCESS THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT SHEPHERD THROUGH. ANY TIME A PRIVATE CITIZEN OR COUNCILOR CAN SUBMIT AMENDMENTS FOR CONSIDERATION EITHER OF THOSE PATHWAYS GO FIRST TO THE ENVIRONMENTAL PLANNING COMMISSION AND GO THROUGH THE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE AND BEFORE THE FULL COUNCIL. EITHER WAY YOU'RE STARTING FROM SCRATCH. BUT STARTING WITH THE FULL REVIEW PROCESS. WE COULD SAY AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING COULD PREPARE AND INTRODUCE AN UPDATE TO THE IDO THAT INCLUDES THE OTHER AMENDMENTS THAT WERE PASSED TONIGHT THAT WERE -- IT WOULD INCLUDE THOSE, THE ONES COUNCILOR JONES IS CONCERNED ABOUT. AND THEN A MONTH LATER SOMEONE COULD PROPOSE AN UPDATE SEPARATELY THAT INCLUDES THE OTHER UPDATES THEY PRESENTED. [ INAUDIBLE ]. >>COUN. LEWIS: THERE DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION FOR RECONSIDERATION? THIS IS DIRECTLY RELATED TO THE RECONSIDERATION. [ INAUDIBLE ]. [ INAUDIBLE ]. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I'LL A DEFERRAL ON O-19 WHICH IS AMENDING THE FOOD SANITATION ORDINANCE TO UPDATE PROCESSES AND REVISES PROCEDURES AND REGULATE. I MOVE DEFERRAL TO JUNE 22nd. [ INAUDIBLE ]. >>COUN. BENTON: THAT WAS THE DEFERRAL ON UNTIL JULY 22nd. WHAT WAS THE VOTE? YOU GOT IT? 9-0. WE'RE NOW ON ITEM E, 0-24. COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: O-24 IS AMENDING THE MUNICIPAL SOLID WASTE RATE TABLE TO INCORPORATE THE RESIDENTIAL RATE INCREASE IN THE RATE APPENDIX. I MOVE A DUE PASS. MOTION AND SECOND ON R-24 AMENDING THE SOLIDWASTE TABLE TO INCORPORATE RESIDENTIAL RATE INCREASE. DISCUSSION FROM THE ADMINISTRATION? >> MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL WE URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BENTON: ANY DISCUSSION FROM THE COUNCIL? SEEING NONE. COUNCILOR LEWIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: I SUGGEST WEEGING CLOSE THE MEETING OR TAKE THE TIME TO DEAL WITH THESE BILLS TONIGHT. AS LONG AS NECESSARY. HAVE THE DISCUSSION OR CLOSE THE MEETING AND DO IT ANOTHER TIME. >>COUN. BENTON: IT'S BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION? >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: I OPPOSE THIS. THIS WAS AN OPPORTUNITY TO PU $2 MILLION AND TAKE IT OUT OF PARK AND RECK. BUT WE HAD OVER $100 MILLION IN EXTRA REVENUE BUDGET. WE DECIDED TO RAISE PEOPLE'S TRASH RATES. IT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE IN A NUMBER OF OTHER DEPARTMENTS. I THINK THE ARGUMENT IS GOING TO BE THE ADMINISTRATION WAS ENTERPRISE THE ONLY WAY TO PAY IS RAISE PEOPLE'S RATES. THAT'S NEWT TRUE. WE DID THE AIRPORT ENTERPRISE. CHUNKS OF MONEY OUT OF THE BUDGET. THIS WAS A DECISION. IF WE PASS THIS, IT'S A DECISION BY THIS COUNCIL AND ADMINISTRATION TO RAISE ONE MORE FEE, MAKE IT COST A LITTLE BIT MORE FOR PEOPLE IN THE CITY TO JUST HAVE BASIC SERVICES THEY NEED. THIS IS THE WRONG WAY TO OPERATE TO DO THE SERVICES WHEN IT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE IN AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT WAY. I DO NOT SUPPORT THIS. I SUPPORT MAKE -- I DON'T SUPPORT RAISING PEOPLE'S FEES AND JUST MAKING IT A HIGHER COST OF LIVING MORE OF A HIGHER COST OF LIVING IN THE CITY BY PASSING THIS BILL. >>COUN. BENTON: COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, THERE'S SEVERAL LONE RANGERS THAT STUCK WITH US. I SEE DIRECTOR WELAND IS HERE. I LIKE TO GIVE HIM THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TO US SINCE HE'S STUCK AROUND THIS LONG. IF YOU WANT TO, DIRECTOR. I'M NOT FORCING YOU. >> COUNCILOR BASSAN, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY. I JUST URGE YOUR SUPPORT. EVERYTHING WE DO IN CLEAN CITIES, THAT DIVISION OF SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT DOES A LOT MORE THAN CLEAN UPS. THEY DO HIGHWAY, ILLEGAL DUMPING. WE HAVE RECYCLE SITES. CONVENIENCE CENTERS, MEDIANS. GRAFFITI. WE DO A LOT OF THINGS WITH THAT $17 RATE COMPARED TO TEN OTHER CITIES IN THE RGION. WE DO MORE THAN OTHER MUNICIPALITIES DO. WE URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BENTON: OTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCILOR PEÑA TO CLOSE. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BENTON: ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES AND RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES ON A 5-4 VOTE. MOVE TO ITEM I. COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: R20 IS THE ENFORCEMENT OF TWO 2-4-4, CREATING A WORKING GROUP TO ESTABLISH THE EFFECTS OF ONLINE BOARDS COMMISSIONS AND MEETINGS. I MOVE A DUE PASS. THERE'S A MOTION AND SECOND FROM COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. ANY DISCUSSION? >>COUN. PEÑA: I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. BENTON: THANK YOU. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR OF R-20 SAY YES. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'LL MOVE TO THE LAST ITEM. R41. APPROVING AND AUTHORIZING THE MAYOR TO EXECUTE GRANT AGREEMENT WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES EARLY HEAD START DEPARTMENT BEGINNING IN FY23. I MOVE A DUE PASS. THERE'S A MOTION AND A SECOND FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT IN YOUR iPAD. WE CAN VOTE ON THAT AMENDMENT. WE HAVE IT ON THE SCREEN. CAN SOMEBODY SUMMARIZE THAT? THIS CHANGES PAGE ONE TO$2 MILLION. ON PAGE ONE LINE FOUR $509,000 SHOULD BE 509- -- THESE ARE BUNCH OF CORRECTIONS OF NUMBERS. I'LL MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT NUMBER ONE. MOTION AND SECOND. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. WE'RE BACK ON THE BILL AS AMENDED. R-41. URGE YOUR SUPPORT. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY YES. RAISE YOUR HAND. OPPOSED? THAT PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, THIS CITY COUNCIL MEETING IS ADJOURNED.