WELCOME. I WILL CALL THIS BLOOMINGTON CITY COUNCIL MEETING TO ORDER AS MONDAY NOVEMBER 13TH, 2023. THANK YOU FOR EVERYBODY JOINING US HERE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS AND EVERYBODY WATCHING ONLINE. WE WILL START OUR MEETING AS WE ALWAYS DO IF YOU'RE ABLE PLEASE RISE REMOVE YOUR CAPS AND JOIN US IN THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS ONE NATION UNDER GOD, INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND FOR ALL. ONCE AGAIN, WELCOME. GOOD TO SEE FOLKS HERE IN THE CHAMBERS AND LOOK FORWARD TO THE DISCUSSION WE'LL BE HAVING TONIGHT. OUR FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS TONIGHT IS THE APPROVAL OF OUR AGENDA COUNCIL ON THE AGENDA THIS EVENING WE'VE THREE ITEMS UNDER OUR INTRODUCTORY ITEMS. WE'VE GOT THE INTRODUCTION OF NEW EMPLOYEES AND THAT WILL BE OUR CIO DEPARTMENT. LOOKING FORWARD TO MEETING THOSE FOLKS. PROCLAMATION REGARDING SMALL BUSINESS SATURDAY AND WE WILL BE CANVASING THE CITY GENERAL ELECTION RESULTS FROM LAST TUESDAY. ITEM THREE IS OUR CONSENT BUSINESS COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN HAS THE CONSENT BUSINESS AND THERE ARE TEN ITEMS ON THE CONSENT AGENDA TONIGHT SO THANK YOU FOR TAKING THAT ON COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN. ITEM FOUR IS OUR HEARINGS, RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES. WE HAVE TWO PUBLIC HEARINGS THIS EVENING. THE FIRST IS ITEM 4.1. OUR PUBLIC HEARING TO APPROVE THE FEASIBILITY STUDY AND ORDER THE 2024 PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM STREET RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT AND IN 4.2 IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING THE TECHNOLOGY RESOLUTIONS OF SUPPORT TO ADD FOR THEIR GRANT GRANT AND LOAN APPLICATIONS FOR ITEM 4.2 I'M GOING TO BE HANDING THE GAVEL OVER TO COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO AS I A BUSINESS RELATIONSHIP WITH A COMPETITOR OF SEAGATE SO I'LL BE STEPPING AWAY FROM THE THE DAIS AT THAT TIME AND COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO WILL TAKE IT. ITEM FIVE UNDER OUR ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS WE WILL HEAR OUR CONTINUED UPDATES REGARDING THE 2024 BUDGET. 5.1 IS A DISCUSSION ON THE UTILITY RATES AND THE BUDGET FOR 2024. ITEM 5.2 IS A BUDGET DISCUSSION ON OUR INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY DEPARTMENT. VE THREE SAMEISCUSSION REGARDIN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND 5.4 IS OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT OF BUDGET DISCUSSIONS FOR 2024. WE'LL WRAP UP OUR EVENING AS WE ALWAYS DO. ITEM 5.5 OF CITY COUNCIL POLICY AND ISSUE UPDATE COUNCIL ANY QUESTIONS OR ANY ADDITIONS TO TONIGHT'S AGENDA HEARING NONE. I WILL MOVE TONIGHT'S AGENDA AS STATED. SECOND, WE HAVE A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ACCEPT TONIGHT'S AGENDA AS STATED. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO AND IT'S A GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO NOTE THAT COUNCILMEMBER CARTER IS NOT WITH US THIS EVENING. SHE'S TRAVELING SO IS NOT WITH US THIS EVENING. NOW THAT WE HAVE AN AGENDA WE ARE ON TO ITEM 2.1 WHICH IS THE INTRODUCTION OF NEW EMPLOYEES AMY CHENEY, OUR CIO WILL BE INTRODUCING EMPLOYEE YOUR EMPLOYEES AND JUST ONE. OKAY. VERY GOOD. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL IT IS MY PLEASURE TO INTRODUCE ALTHEA. GET IT BACK. WHO? SHE JOINED THE IT DEPARTMENT ON SEPTEMBER 18TH OF THIS YEAR AND SHE IS OUR OFFICE SUPPORT SPECIALIST. SHE'S RESPONSIBLE FOR PURCHASING CONTRACT MANAGEMENT AND REALLY HELPING RUN THE DEPARTMENT MORE EFFICIENTLY. ALTHEA HAS MORE THAN 18 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE IN IT AND ADMINISTRATION AND SHE MOST RECENTLY WORKED FOR REYES RADIOLOGY WHERE SHE WAS AN IT ANALYST. HEY WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS? GOOD EVENING. WELCOME. THANK YOU. IT'S AN HONOR TO BE PART OF THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON FAMILY AND I LOOK FORWARD TO THE COLLABORATION. THANK YOU. WELL, THANKS SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE THIS EVENING. WELCOME LOONG FORWARD TO WORKING WITH YOU AND SENIOR ON CITY HALL. SO THANKS MUCH. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU . AND IN 2.1 OR 2.2 ON OUR AGENDA IS A PROCLAMATION I GOING TO MAKE MY WAY DOWN TO THE PODIUM . A PROCLAMATION TODAY IS REGARDING SMALL SATURDAY WHICH IS NOVEMBER 25TH, 2023. AND I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE TO THE PODIUM ALBERTO DIAZ LIBERAL BOOTS HERE IN BLOOMINGTON, THE SMALL BUSINESS OWNER AND MIKE RICKARD, HIS BUSINESS ASSOCIATE. IF YOU WOULD PLEASE COME ON UP AND JOINING ME I'M GOING TO READ THE PROCLAMATION AND THEN TURN THE MICROPHONE OVER TO YOU AND THEN WE'LL OF COURSE DO A GRIP AND GRIN BECAUSE WE'VE GOT TO DO THE GRIP AND GRIN IF WE HAVE FOLKS HERE. SO WELCOME. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TONIGHT. THIS IS A PROCLAMATION FOR SMALL BUSINESS SATURDAY, NOVEMBER 2H, 2023. WHEREAS BLOOMINGTON CELEBRATES OUR LOCAL SMALL BUSINESSES AND THE CONTRIBUTIONS THEY MAKE TO THE LOCAL ECONOMY AND COMMUNITY. ACCORDING TO THE UNITED STATES CENSUS, THERE ARE MORE THAN 38,000 SMALL BUSINESSES WITH FEWER THAN 100 EMPLOYEES IN HENNEPIN COUNTY REPRESENTING MORE THAN 96% OF ALL BUSINESSES IN HENNEPIN COUNTY. AND. WHEREAS, FOR MANY RESIDENTS, THE THANKSGIVING HOLIDAY KICKS OFF A SEASON OF GATHERING, DINING, SHOPPING AND EXPERIENCING ARTS AND CULTURE AND CONSUMERS THAT SUPPORTING SMALL INDEPENDENTLY OWNED BUSINESSES HAVE POSITIVE SOCIAL, ECONOMIC AND ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS. AND. WHEREAS, BLOOMGTON HAS PARTNERED WITH HENNEPIN COUNTY TO SUPPORT SMALL BUSINESS SATURDAY WITH THE MULTIDAY JURISDICTIONAL LOVE LOCAL CAMPAIGN WHICH ENCOURAGES RESIDENTS TO SUPPORT LOCAL INDEPENDENTLY OWNED BUSINESSES THAT CREATE JOBS, BOOST THE LOCAL ECONOMY AND MAKE OUR COMMUNITIES VIBRANT AND LIVABLE. AND. WHEREAS, THE UNITED STATES SMALL BUSINESS ADMINISTRATION AS WELL AS GROUPS AND OTHER PRIVATE AND PUBLIC ORGANIZATIONS ACROSS THE COUNTRY HAVE ENDORSED THE SATURDAY AFTER THANKSGIVING AS SMALL BUSINESS SATURDAY. NOW THEREFORE I'M HERE TIM BUSSEY DO HEREBY PROCLAIM SATURDAY NOVEMBER 25TH, 2023 AS SMALL BUSINESS SURDAY IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON, MINNESOTA. AND I URGE THE RESIDENTS OF OUR COMMUNITY TO SUPPORT SMALL AND MERCHANTS ON SMALL BUSINESS SATURDAY AND OF COURSE THROUGHOUT THE YEAR DUE TO THIS 13TH DATE IN NOVEMBER 2023. AS I MENTIONED IN THE IN THE PROCLAMATION, WE KNOW THAT WE'RE ENTERING A TIME THAT'S VERY IMPORTANT FROM A RETAIL STANDPOINT, FROM A SMALL BUSINESS STANDPOINT. THE THANKSGIVING SEASON KICKING OFF THE HOLIDAY BUYING SEASON AND THAT SATURDAY AFTER THANKSGIVING A PERFECT OPPORTUNITY TO SUPPORT BUSINESSES IN BLOOMINGTON. NOW AS I MENTIONED, I'M GOING TO TURN THE MICROPHONE OVER. PLEASE GO AHEAD. ABSOLUTELY. THANK YOU SO MUCH AND GOOD EVENING. GILBERTO WANTED ME TO SAY A FEW WORDS. MY NAME IS MIKE BURKHART. I'M A BUSINESS CONSULTANT WITH LORA BOOTS AND HE'LL BE THERE TODAY AS IS THE OWNER AND HE JUST WANTED ME TO SAY A FEW WORDS ON HIS BEHALF SO HE'LL BARTOW IS A PROUD OWNER OF LORA BOOTS ROBERTO GILBERTO WANTED ME TO SAY I WANT TO EXPRESS MY SINCERE GRATITUDE TO MAYOR BUSSEY ALONG WITH THE ESTEEMED MEMBERS THE CITY COUNCIL FOR EXTENDING A WARM INVITATION TO LORA BOOTS TO PARTICIPATE IN THE SMALL BUSINESS SATURDAY PROCLAMATION OPERATING MY BUSINESS IN A CITY THAT TRULY ACKNOWLEDGES THE VITAL CONTRIBUTION OF SMALL BUSINESSES TO THE LOCAL ECONOMY MAKES ME FEEL INCREDIBLY FORTUNATE. THE COLLABORATION EFFORTS BETWEEN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND HENNEPIN COUNTY PARTICULARLY THROUGH INITIATIVES LIKE LOVE LOCAL AND ELEVATE HENNEPIN HAVE PROVEN INVALUABLE TO ENTREPRENEURS LIKE MYSELF IN SUSTAINING AND EXPANDING OURUSINESSES A LORA BOOTS GEARS UPOR A SIGNIFICANT EXPANSION IN 2024, WE ARE CONFIDENT IN THE PARTNERSHIP THAT WE HAVE FOUND AT CITY HALL INDIVIDUALS SUCH AS BARB WOLF AND BERNADETTE GILLESPIE AMONG OTHERS HAVE BEEN PILLARS OF SUPPORT GUIDING US THROUGH A GROWTH AND RUNWAY WITH WITH UNWAVERING ASSISTANCE. ONCE AGAIN, I EXTEND MY HEARTFELT THANKS FOR ALL OF YOU FOR INCLUDING US TONIGHT. IT IS AN HONOR TO BE PART OF A COMMUNITY THAT RECOGNIZES AND CHAMPIONS THE SPIRIT OF SMALL BUSINESSES. SO THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR THOSE KIND WORDS AND CONGRATULATE. I WAS GOING TO ASK YOU ABOUT THE EXPANSION. I KNOW THERE'S AN EXPANSION COMING UP THIS YEAR AND SO 2024 CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU. AND IF YOU IF DON'T RECALL OR IF YOU DO RECALL AT OUR STATE OF THE CITY ADDRESS A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO LITTLE BOOTS WAS HIGHLIGHTED. AND IF YOU'RE EVER IN THE FOR BOOTS MY GOODNESS. DO THEY HAVE SOME NICE BOOTS THERE SO PLEASE DO CHECK THEM OUT. SO I WOULD I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE THIS PROCLAMATION PRESENTATION TO YOU AND WHY DON'T WE STEP OVER THIS SIDE SO BARB CAN GET A PICTURE OF US AND SHE CAN TE A PICTURE WITH THAT AS WELL . CONGRATULATIONS . THE NEXT ITEM ON OUR AGENDA ITEM 2.3 YOU MAY HAVE HEARD WE HAD AN ELECTION THIS PAST WEEK HERE IN BLOOMINGTON AND ITEM 2.3 IS A RESPONSIBILITY THAT THE COUNCIL HAS EVERY AFTER ELECTION WHERE WE CANVASS THE CITY GENERAL ELECTION RESULTS IN OUR CITY CLERK CHRISTINA SCIPIONE IS HERE TO LEAD US THROUGH THIS. GOOD EVENING MR. SCIPIONE. WELCOME GOOD EVENING. THANK YOU MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL. HERE I AM AGAIN ANOTHER ELECTION SEASON IS BEHIND US AND THIS IS KIND OF PART OF THE FINAL STEPS FOR MAKING THOSE RESULTS OFFICIAL. SO I KNOW YOU HE A ROBUST MEETING AND I'LL GET RIGHT TO OUR STATISTICS AND TO OUR RESULTS AND HOPEFULLY THIS CLICKER WORKS FOR ME. THANK YOU MIKE FOR BRINGING BACK. APPRECIATE THAT. SO WE HAD A BUSY ELECTION CYCLE THIS YEAR. OUR OVERALL TURNOUT 35.91% OF OUR REGISTERED VOTERS HERE IN BLOOMINGTON. THAT'S THE HIGHEST TURNOUT IT'S BEEN FOR A REGULARLY SCHEDULED MUNICIPAL ACTION IN 20 YEARS. RIGHT. SO THAT'S PRETTY EXCITING. IT WAS A BUSY DAY IN OUR PRECINCTS BUT WE HAD A LOVELY CREW OF ELECTION JUDGES AND BEHIND THE SCENES SUPPORT STAFF TO GET US THROUGH THE DAY WITHOUT ANY MAJOR ISSUES. SO IT'S PRETTY EXCITING FOR US IN THE ELECTIONS OFFICE. WE HAD 20,878 BALLOTS CAST. THAT'S ABOUT 5000 MORE THAN WERE CAST IN 2021. AND OF THOSE ABOUT 22% WERE CAST ABSENTEE OR EARLY. AND OF THAT 88% WERE RIGHT HERE AT CITY HALL. SO IS IT AN IMPORTANT SERVICE THAT WE'VE PROVIDED HERE AT CITY HALL FOR OUR VOTERS WHO WANTED TO COME AND CAST THEIR BALLOTS EARLY? WE HAD ABOUT 501 VOTERS WHO REGISTERED ON ELECTION DAY AND SO OUR NEW TOTAL REGISTERED VOTERS IN THE CITY IS 58,134. NEXT SLIDE. SO A REMINDER BEFORE WE GET INTO THE RESULTS OF WITH RANKED CHOICE VOTING HOW WE CALCULATE OUR THRESHOLDS AND HOW WE TAKE A LOOK AT ELECTION NIGHT RESULTS AND THEN WE'LL LOOK AT AT ROUND REPORTING RESULTS AS WELL. SO ON ELECTION NIGHT WE ARE LOOKING AT A TOT MAXIMUM THRESHD TO DETERMINE IF ANYBODY HAS WON THAT CONTEST ON ELECTION NIGHT. AND SO WHAT THAT MEANS IS WE'RE TAKING A LOOK AT ALL OF THE VOTES THAT HAVE BEEN CAST DIVIDING THAT IN HALF AND ADDING ONE. SO 50% PLUS ONE OF ALL THE VOTES THAT HAVE BEEN CAST. SO THE VOTES CAST INCLUDE FIRST CHOICE VOTES FOR CANDIDATES, FIRST CHOICE VOTES FOR RETURNS AND THEN UNDERVOTES AND OVERVOTES IN THE FIRST CHOICE RANKING AND UNDERVOTE IS WHERE SOMEONE CHOSE NOT TO FILL IN THAT FIRST CHOICE RANKING AND AN OVERVOTE WHERE THEYILLED IN TOO MANY TGETS OROTED FOROO MANY CANDIDATES IN THAT FIRST CHOICE RANKING. AND SO IT CAN GET CONFUSING ON ELECTION NIGHT WHEN WE'RE LOOKING AT THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE AS THOSE ARE ROLLING IN BECAUSE THE SECRETARY OF STATE'S OFFICE DOES NOT REPORT OUT THOSE UNDERVOTES AND OVERVOTES. AND SO THE PERCENTAGE YOU SEE ON THE STATE'S WEBSITE DOESN'T INCLUDE THAT TOTAL MAXIMUM THRESHOLD, THAT TOTAL NUMBER OF VOTES CAST. AND SO EVERY ELECTION CYCLE WE HAVE SOME THAT ARE CLOSE RIGHT AND WE DO THE THEN LOOKING AT ALL OF THE VOTES THAT ARE CAST THAT ELECTION NIGHT A WE'LL LOOK A THOSE FOR EAC RACE AS WE MOVE FORWARD. NEXT ONCE WE MOVE IF A RACE DOES REQUIRE TABULATION RESULTS ROUNDS, THEN THE THRESHOLD CHANGES TO ACTIVE BALLOTS DIVIDED BY TWO AND ADDING ONE AND AN ACTIVE BALLOT ARE ALL OF THE ALL OF THE BALLOTS CAST MINUS ONES WHERE THERE IS NOT A VOTE FOR A CONTINUING CANDIDATE ON IT. SO YOU SEE IN THE ROUND RESULTS THAT WE ACTUALLY REPORT OUT THE INACTIVE BALLOTS AND THEN WE RECALCULATE THE THRESHOLD BASED ON THE NUMBER OF ACTIVE BALLOTS THAT ARE CURRENTLY IN THAT RACE AND WE CAN DO THAT RIGHT DURING ROUND RESULTS BECAUSE WHEN WE'RE DOING OUR TABULATION WE TAKE A LOOK AT THE FIRST CHOICE RANKING AND IF IT'S BLANK OR THERE'S AN OVERVOTE, WE LOOK AT THE SECOND TO SEE IF THERE'S A CONTINUING CANDIDATE AND THEN WE LOOK AT THE THIRD IF THERE ISN'T ANYTHING IN THE SECOND TO SEE IF THERE'S A CONTINUING CANDIDATE THERE. AND SO THEN WE CONFIRM YEP, THOSE BALLOTS AREN'T ACTIVE THEY DON'T HAVE ANY VOTES FOR THAT RACE IN THAT IN THAT FOR THAT BALLOT. SO LET'S MOVE ON TO HOW WE TABULATED THIS YEAR. YOU'LL REMEMBER IN 2021 WHERE ITAS OUR FIRSTLECTION USING RANKED CICE VOTING WE DID A HAND COUNT OF ALL OF THE RACES THAT REQUIRED TABULATION IN THAT CASE THERE WERE THREE RACES THAT REQUIRED TABULATION AND IT TOOK US DAYS TO DO THAT HAND COUNT WITH 50,000 SORRY 5000 FEWER BALLOTS THAN WE HAD THIS YEAR. THIS YEAR WE USE THE SPREADSHEET TABULATION METHOD WHICH IS WHAT MINNEAPOLIS ST LOUIS PARK AND MINNETONKA USED FOR THEIR RANKED CHOICE VOTING RACES AS WELL. AND WE WERE ABLE TO BUMP U E TIMELINE OTHAT INSTEAD OF STARTIN THE THURSDAY AFTER ELECTION DAY. WE COULD START THE WEDNESDAY THE DAY AFTER THE ELECTION AT ONE AND WE WERE ABLE TO CONDUCT ALL OF OUR REQUIRED TABULATION ROUNDS IN THE SPAN OF ABOUT 4 HOURS VERSUS WHAT WOULD HAVE PROBABLY BEEN FOUR OR FIVE DAYS. SO WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T BE CANVASING HERE TONIGHT. HAVE WE DONE A HAND COUNT USING THAT SPREADSHEET TABULATION USES WHAT'S CALLED THE CAST VOTE RECORD WHICH IS AN EXCEL SPREADSHEET OF ALL OF THE BALLOTS THAT WERE CAST FOR THAT RACE. AND I HAVE AN EXAMPLE UP HE AND BASICALLY EVERY ROW IN THAT SPREADSHEET REPRESENTS A BALLOT AND HOW THOSE VOTES WERE CAST ON THAT BALLOT. SO WE'RE STILL USING THE DATA FROM THE BALLOTS BUT INSTEAD OF HAVING TO PHYSICALLY MOVE EVERYTHING WE HAVE TRAINED STAFF WORKING IN PAIRS THAT MOVE THAT DATA ELECTRONICALLY CAN USE CERTAIN EXCEL THEY CAN USE FILTER IN EXCEL TO MOVE FASTER THROUGH THAT TABULATION PROCESS. SO EVEN THOUGH IT'S ELECTRONIC IT WORKS SAME AS YOU WOULD SEE IF YOU WERE HAND COUNTING THE BALLOTS. SO FOR THOSE RACES WE HAVE TWO PAIRS OF TRAINED STAFF THAT ARE WORKING INDEPENDENTLY OF EACH OTHER AND THEN THEY CHECK IN WITH OTHER THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS AND WITH ME THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS TO ENSURE THAT THEIR NUMBERS MATCH THAT THEY'VE DONE THE PROCESS THE SAME WAY WHOLE WAY THROUGH AND THE EXCITING PART ABOUT THAT TOO IS WE ALSO SAVE THEIR WORK THROUGHOUT THE PROCESS. SO IF ANYBODY WANTED TO GO BACK AND CHECK TO SEE EXACTLY HOW THINGS WERE SORTED THAT DATA IS AVAILABLE CAN PUT IN THEIR DATA REQUEST TO RECEIVE THAT AND THEY CAN SEE EXACTLY HOW THOSE BLOTS WERE TABULATE DURING THOSE ROUNDS . SO ONLINE WE'LL GET INTO THE RESULTS NOW. THANK YOU MIKE. SO IN THE MAYORAL RACE, OUR THRESHOLD OUR MAXIMUM POSSIBLE THRESHOLD WAS 10,440 BALLOTS. AND TIM HAD 11,859. SO HE MET THAT MAXIMUM POSSIBLE THRESHOLD AND THERE WERE NO TABULATION ROUNDS REQUIRED IN THAT NEXT RACE FOR OUR COUNCIL MEMBER AT LARGE RACE WE HAD A MAXIMUM POSSIBLE THRESHOLD OF 10,440 AND JENNA CARTER HAD 12,173 SO SHE MET THAT MAXIMUM POSSIBLE THRESHOLD AND NO TABULATION ROUNDS WERE REQUIRED. NOW OUR SPECIAL ELECTION FOR COUNCIL MEMBER AT LARGE FOR THE TWO YEAR TERM AND THAT DID NOT HAVE A CANDIDATE THAT IS ON ELECTION NIGHT MET THAT MAXIMUM POSSIBLE THRESHOLD AND THE THRESHOLD FOR THAT WAS AGAIN 10,440 AND SO THAT DID REIRE TABULATION ROUNDS WHICH WE STARTED AT 1 P.M. ON WEDNESDAY. IF WE GO TO THE NEXT WE CAN SEE THE RESULTS OF THOSE TABULATION ROUNDS SO AFTER OUR FIRST ROUND OF TABULATION WE ENDED UP WITH A REVISED THRESHOLD OF 9009 OR 690 AND WE DID NOT HAVE A CANDIDATE THAT MET THAT THRESHOLD. SO IN AFTER THAT FIRST ROUND COLLINS AND THE UNDECLARED RETURNS WERE DEFEATED WHICH MEANT THEN WE LOOKED AT THOSE SECONDHOICE ON THE BALLOT AND REALLOCATED THOSE ACCORDINGLY. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT IN THE SECOND ROUND SOMEONE GAINED AND JOHNSON MINKS GAINED. WE HAD ADDITIONAL INACTIVE BALLOTS AND THEN WE RE TABULATED IN THE ROUND TO OUR NEW THRESHOLD AND AT THAT POINT SAMUEL MET THAT MAX OR THAT THRESHOLD AND SO HE WAS DECLARED THE WINNER AND NO ADDITIONAL TABULATION ROUNDS WERE REQUIRED MORE MOVING ON TO DISTRICT TWO ON ELECTION NIGHT OUR MAXIMUM POSSIBLE THRESHOLD WAS 2693 AND DWAYNE ALEMAN HAD 2713. SO HE MET THAT MAXIMUM POSSIBLE THRESHOLD AND NO TABULATION ROUNDS WERE REQUIRED. NEXT SLIDE IN DISTRICT TWO OUR MAXIMUM POSSIBLE THRESHOLD WAS 2960 AND SHAWN NELSON HAD 3070 SO HE MET THAT MAXIMUM POSSIBLE THRESHOLD AND N ADDITIONAL TABATION ROUNDS WERE REQUIRED IN DISTRICT THREE OUR MAXIMUM POSSIBLE THRESHOLD WAS 3139 AND ALONE I DO LISANDRO HAD 3180 SO SHE MET THAT MAXIMUM POSSIBLE THRESHOLD AND NO TABULATION ROUNDS WERE REQUIRED AND THEN IN DISTRICT FOUR OUR MAXIMUM POSSIBLE THRESHOLD WAS 1650 AND WE DID NOT HAVE A CANDIDATE ON ELECTION NIGHT THAT MET THAT MAXIMUM POSSIBLE THRESHOLD. SO WE DID TABULATION ROUNDS ON WEDNESDAY AFTERNOON AND WE'LL GO TO THE NEXT SLIDE FOR THOSE TABULATION ROUNDS. AND AS YOU CAN SEE FROM OUR TABULATION ROUNDS ONCE WE WENT THROUGH THAT WE STILL HAD WE HAD 197 INACTIVE BALLOTS. SO THEN CHANGED OUR THRESHOLD TO 1551 AND VICTOR RIVAS HAD 1613 AND SO HE MET THRESHOLD AND WAS DECLARED THE WINNER OF THAT RACE WITHOUT ADDITIONAL ROUNDS BEING NECESSARY. THAT WAS LOT OF NUMBER THAT IUST RODE THROUGH. WE HAVE A COUPLE MORE FOR OUR BALLOT QUESTIONS FOR THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER. THAT QUESTION PASSED BY 56.18%. THE NEXT ONE ARE BLOOMINGTON ICE GARDEN IMPROVEMENTS THAT QUESTION PAST 53.05% AND THE NINE MILE CREEK CORRIDOR RENEWAL. THAT QUESTION PASSED BY 52.3% . SO THE NEXT STEPS FOR WRAPPING UP OUR ELECTION CYCLE I'M EXCITED TO ANNOUNCE WE HAVE A POST-ELECTION REVIEW WHICH IS A HAND OF BALLOTS FROM ONE RACE AND IN THIS CASE IT WILL BE THE DISTRICT FOR COUNCILMEMBER RACE AND THAT IS TO SHOW TO THE PUBLIC AND TO DEMONSTRATE THAT OUR OUR SPREADSHEET TABULATION MATCHES RESULTS OF A HAND COUNT TABULATION. AND SO IT'S SIMILAR TO WHAT THEY DO EVERY STATE GENERAL ELECTION YEAR WHERE THEY RECOUNT THE TOP THREE BALLOT RACES ON THE BALLOT THIS WE RECOUNT ONE OF OUR RACES THAT REQUIRED SPREADSHEET TABULATION TO THAT OUR TABULATION METHODS WERE CORRECT AND SO THAT WILL BE HELD IN THE BLACK BOX THEATER AT 9 A.M. ON NOVEMBER 21ST AND THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC ARE WELCOME TO ATTEND. I LOVE TALKING ELECTION SO IF ANYBODY WANTS TO COME SEE THE PROCESS, SEE HOW IT WORKS WITH THE PHYSICAL BALLOTS I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER ANYBODY'S QUESTIONS WHEN THEY'RE THERE AND EXPLAIN HOW THAT WORKS. DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? MAYOR OKAY. THE DEADLINE TO REQUEST A RECOUNT IS THE DAY BEFORE NOVEMBER 20TH AND THEN THE OATH OF OFFICE FOR COUNCILMEMBER AT LARGE SPECIAL ELECTION WILL BE NOVEMBER 27TH AND THEN THE OATH OFFICE FOR OUR MAYOR OR OTHER AT LARGE COUNCILMEMBER AND ALL OF OUR DISTRICTS WILL BE JANUARY 2ND 2024. SO MARK YOUR CALENDARS WITH THAT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO ANSWER THEM. THANK YOU MISSISSIPPI ONLY APPRECIATE IT. AND I'LL SAY IT'S HARD TELL THAT YOU LOVE ELECTIONS EXCITED ABOUT IT IT'S IT'S YOU HIDE THAT WELL APPRECIATE THE INFORMATION AND THE EXPLANATION IT'S ALWAYS GOOD TO GET THAT CONTINUING EXPLANATION I THINK AS PEOPLE CONTINUE TO LEARN AND UNDERSTAND BETTER RANKED CHOICE VOTING SO APPRECIATE THAT COUNSEL ANY QUESTIONS ON MISSISSIPPI ONLY REGARDING THE CANVASING OF THE ELECTIONS NO QUESTIONS WELL VERY GOOD. BEFORE WE TAKE A VOTE TO APPROVE WHICH I'M ASSUMING IS GOING TO GO IN A GOOD DIRECTION, I WANTED TO THANK YOU I WANTED TO THANK YOUR STAFF. PLEASE EXTEND OUR THANKS TO THEM. I WANT TO PUBLICLY THANK OUR ELECTION JUDGES WHO DID OUTSTANDING WORK ONCE AGAIN AND A RECORD IN AN OFF YEAR ELECTION AND GENERALLY THANK YOU FOR MAKING ELECTION DAY AS UNEVENTFUL AS POSSIBLE. I MEAN THAT'S THE BEST THE BEST THING YOU CAN SAY ABOUT ELECTION DAY IS THAT THINGS RUN REALLY WELL AND PEOPLE WAIT TOO TERRIBLY LONG ON LINES AND THAT THE RESULTS COME OUT IN A VERY EFFICIENT FASHION AND YOU DO THAT AND I APPRECIATE THAT AND I ESPECIALLY APPRECIATE THE EARLY VOTING SET UP HERE AT CITY HALL WAS VERY WELL USED. I KNOW THAT I WAS HERE MANY DAYS AND SAW THE LINES AND SAW PEOPLE STEPPING IN TO VOTE AND I KNOW PEOPLE APPRECIATED THAT. I TALKED TO A LOT OF FOLKS WHO REALLY DID SEE THAT AS A NEFIT AND VY USEFUL. SO THANK YOU. THANKS TO YOU. THANKS TO YOUR STAFF. THANKS TO THE ELECTION STAFF. THE ELECTION AND EVERYBODY YOU DID AN OUTSTANDING JOB SO THANK YOU SO VERY MUCH ONE MORE TIME. THANK MARION COUNCIL IT'S A TEAM EFFORT. WE HAVE A FABULOUS TEAM AND WE GET A LOT OF SUPPORT THE CITY MANAGER'S OFFICE AND FROM THE CITY COUNCIL SO WE APPRECIATE THE SUPPORT AND THE RESOURCES TO RUN GREAT ELECTIONS HERE IN BLOOMINGTON. VERY GOOD THANK YOU MUCH, COUNSEL. IF THERE'S NO QUESTIONS I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO APPROVE THE DECLARATION OF RESULTS OF THE NOVEMBER 7TH, 2023 MUNICIPAL GENERAL ELECTION AS SUBMITTED BY THE ELECTION JUDGES FOR THAT ELECTION S MOVED A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO BY COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN TO APPROVE THE DECLARATION THE RESULTS OF THE NOVEMBER 2023 MUNICIPAL GENERAL ELECTION ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS HEREIN? NONE. ALL THOSE FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I II OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO THANK YOU VERY MUCH MOVE ON ITEM THREE ON OUR AGENDA OUR CONSENT AGENDA COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN HAS TONIGHT'S CONSENT BUSINESS COUNCIL MEMBER MARTIN I THANK YOU VERY MUCH MOR SOO FAR I HAVE HEARD ABOUT HOLDS ON 3.1 AND 3.6 AS WELL AS 3.9. WAS THERE ANYTHING ELSE I OC SEEING NO OTHER ADDITIONS I WILL MOTION APPROVAL OF ITEMS 3233537 AND THREE EIGHT AS WELL AS 310 SECOND WITH A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO TO ACCEPT TONIGHT'S CONSENT BUSINESS AS STATED NO FURTHER COUNCIL ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I PROPOSED MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO LET'S REMEMBER MARTIN I'M SORRY YOU SAID THAT IN 3.3.1 AND 3.6 WERE BOTH COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN I MEAN 3.1 LET'S START WITH THAT. THANK YOU, MAYOR. SO I'M WELL WHEN I WAS OUT DOORKNOCKING AND THEN ALSO JUST RELATIVELY RECENT I HAD A RESIDENT CONTACT ME REGARDING OUR OUR TRAVEL EXPENSES AND WE HAD A GOOD CONVERSATION ABOUT THE TRAVEL EXPENSES AND AFTER I GET A CHANCE TO TALK TO HIM AT LENGTH, YOU KNOW TODAY HE HAD A BETTER UNDERSTANDING OF KIND OF WHAT THIS PARTICULAR BUSINESS THING THAT WE DO IN GOING TO THE NATIONAL CITIES AND EXPLAINED TO HIM, YOU KNOW, THE LEARNING THAT GOES ON THERE AND THEN THE BUSINESS MEETING THAT'S THERE THAT WE ARE YOU KNOW PART OF THAT ASSOCIATION AND WE DO TAKE VOTES UPON THAT AROUND POLICY PARTICULAR ISSUES THAT ARE PART OF THAT EVENT OF HE HAD A YOU KNOW A LONGER CONVERSATION ABOUT JUST TRAVEL AND HIS CONCERN ABOUT THAT AND AND I SAID I REALLY APPRECIATE THAT. AND THEN HE ALSO MENTIONED TO ME THE FACT TT, YOU KNOW, ONE OF OUR STRATEGIC PRIORITIES WAS AROUND THIS IDEA OF OF AFFORDABILITY AND THAT TYPE OF THING. SO HE JUST HIS HE'S JUST CONCERNED ABOUT WHAT WE DO AROUND TRAVEL AND I THOUGHT I WOULD BRING THAT BACK FOR YOU, MAYOR AND FOR STAFF TO UNDERSTAND THAT AND AND I KNOW IF THERE'S SOMETHING WE CAN DO TO, YOU KNOW, DISCUSS OR TALK ABOUT THAT BUT I WANTED TO HOLD THIS NOT TO VOTE AGAINST US BUT JUST TO MENTION THAT, YOU KNOW, I ACKNOWLEDGE THAT AND THERE'S OTHER FOLKS THAT ARE OUT THERE TOO CONCERNED OUT THAT AND WANT MAKE SURE WE'RE WELL AWARE OF THAT. SO WITH THAT BEING SAID, I'M READY TO MOVE THIS FORWARD SO I'LL MOVE TO APPROVE THE OUT-OF-STATE TRAVEL EXPENSES . NOW THERE ARE LISTED HERE IN THE AGENDA FOR THE NATIONAL LEAGUE OF CITIES CONFERENCE ATLANTA, GEORGIA SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN TO ACCEPT ITEM 3.1 ON TONIGHT'S CONSENT AGENDA. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE BY SAYING I I OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO COUNCIL MEMBER LOMA NINE AND 3.6 THANK YOU MAYOR I REALLY JUST HELD THIS ONE IN ADDITION THIS IS ABOUT A SIDE YARD SETBACK OF THAT THAT WAS IN MY DISTRICT AND I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO TALK TO ONE OF YOU KNOW THERE'S THERE'S A THERE'S A FEW RESIDENTS ARE THERE THAT ARE ARE A LITTLE BIT CONCERNED ABOUT SOME LOSS OF TREES AND OTHER ITEMS THAT ARE PART OF THAT. AND ALL WE WANTED TO DO IS JUST MAKE SURE THAT WE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT THERE WERE SOME CONCERNS SENT TO STAFF IN THAT THAT WE'RE GOING TO GET BACK TO THEM. NOW I KNOW THAT STAFF MEMBER ON OPPOSITION TOURS AND I'M NOT SURE IF HE WANTS TO COMMENT ON IT AT ALL BUT WE'RE SET AND READY TO GO WITH WITH WITH THOSE CONCERNS AND WE'RE GOING TO GET BACK TO HIM ABOUT THOSE CONCERNS. SO IF THERE ISN'T ANYBODY ELSE GOT ANY OTHER QUESTIONS, I'M MORE THAN HAPPY TO MOVE THIS FORWARD AS WELL. LET'S SEE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO QUESTION THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR . I DID IF I READ THAT CORRECTLY I THOUGHT THAT THERE WERE CONDITIO RELATED TO THE COERNS AROUND TRE REMOVAL, THINGS LIKE THAT FOR THIS APPROVAL, IS THAT RIGHT THAT I READ THAT CORRECTLY AND MR. FREW YOUR OR MR. PEASE I'M GOING TO CALL GO LAWNDALE LET'S CALL ON WITH MR. PLEASE MAYOR. COUNCILMAN SANTORO THERE ARE NO SPECIFIC REQUIREMENTS FOR THE TREES BECAUSE WE DON'T HAVE A WAY TO REGULATE THEM WHERE WE DID LEAVE IT AS CONDITION ONE WE LEFT RATHER VAGUE BECAUSE WE COULD GET SEVERAL PROPERTY OWNERS TO WORK TOGETHER AND WE MAYIND A BETTER SOLUTION. SO INSTEAD OF HAVING A FIXED PLAN THAT HAVE TONIGHT WE'RE TRYING TO FIND IT WORKING WITH THEM TRYING TO FIND THE BEST ALTERNATIVE AND THEN THAT WILL BECOME THE APPROVED PLAN THAT'LL BE PART OF THE VARIANCE. THANKS. APPRECIATE IT. THANK YOU, SIR. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON. THANK YOU MANAGER SINCE THIS IS OPEN, A COUPLE OF QUICK QUESTIONS. HAS ANYTHING CHANGED SINCE IT WAS ORIGINALLY PLANNED? AND IN TERMS OF ORDINANCES AND MY SECOND QUESTION IS WHERE IS THE FRONT YARD BECAUSE IT APPEARED ON EVERYTHING EVERYTHI IS A FIVE YARD SETBACK. SO WHY IS THERE NO FRONT YARD SETBACK OF SOMETHING LIKE 30 FEET WHERE THERE IS EVERYWHERE ELSE I'M GLAD YOU ASKED THAT BECAUSE SOME OF YOU WELL I DON'T THINK ANYWHERE HERE IN 1997 WAS WHEN WE QUIT DOING FLAG LOTS WHICH IS TRADITIONALLY HAVING A 15 FOOT NECK CONNECTING THE STREET THEN MAKING THE FRONT YARD. WE'VE HAD A HISTORY OF FLAG LOTS BEING A PROBLEM AND IN 1987 THAT COUNCIL SAID NO MORE BUT THIS WAS ALREADY SUBDIVIDED THENT WAS A VACANT LOT AND WE HAD TO DEAL WITH IT. SO THE FRONT YARD IS ACTUALLY WHERE THE STREET ACCESS IS WHICH IS RIGHT HERE AND THEN THIS SHOULD BE THE FRONT TWO SIDES IN THE REAR. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR CLARIFICATION BECAUSE I THINK FOR LAYPEOPLE TO LOOK AT THAT IT'S VERY CONFUSING AND SO THAT MAKES SENSE AND I HAVE NO IDEA HOW MANY YEARS 1997 WAS AGO. GOOD GOOD JOB TO THE COUNCIL COUNCIL OTHER QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THIS? IF NOT WE HAVE A MOTION AND THEN WE HAVE A SECOND I BELIEVE RIGHT? NO, WE HAVEN'T DONE IT. WE HAVEN'T DONE IT YET. MY BET AND LOTS OKAY I GOT READY TO MAKE IT AND COUNCILMEMBER LONG GO AHEAD SO I'LL GO AHEAD AND MOVE TO ADOPT A RESOLUTION PROVING A VARIANCE TO SOCIETY OUR SETBACKS FOR DRIVEWAY FROM FIVE FEET TO 1.5 FEET FOR ACCESS TO A NEW SINGLE FAMILY HOME LOCATED AT 1145, GIRARD CURVE SECOND MOST OF MY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN SECOND COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN TO ACCEPT ITEM 3.6 AND TONIGHT'S COUNCIL CONSENT BUSINESS HAS STATED NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSE MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO AND THE THIRD ITEM WAS TO BE HELD WAS OF 3.9 AND I ACTUALLY HELD THAT AND I AM GOING TO ABSTAIN IN THIS VOTE JUST WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT WAS CLEAR AS WE TAKE THE VOTE SEPARATELY I'M GOING TO EXTEND JUST BECAUSE I WASN'T PART OF THE CONVERSATION THAT TOOK PLACE AROUND THIS THIS LEGAL SERVICES AGREEMENT AND IF OTHER QUESTIONS ON THAT COUNCIL, I THINK IT'S STILL OKAY THAT I CAN CALL IT EVEN IF I DON'T VOTE I'M GOING TO LOOK FOR A MOTION TOPPROVE ITEM 3.9 SO MOVED SECOND MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN TO ACCEPT ITEM 3.9 ON TONIGHT'S CONSENT BUSINESS NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I OPPOSED WITH ONE ABSTENTION BY MAYOR BUSSEY THE MOTION CARRIES 501 THANK YOU VERY MUCH COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN FOR YOUR WORK TONIGHT WE WILL MOVE ON AND FOR IN OUR AGENDA OUR RESOLUTIONS AND ORDINANCES OUR FIRST PUBLIC HEARING IS ITEM 4.1 WHICH IS A PUBLIC HEARING TO APPROVE THE STUDY IN OER TO 2024 PEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM STREET RECONSTRUCTION AND PROJECT WE HAVE AS WE ALWAYS DO WHEN WE TALK POMPEY WE HAVE BRIAN HANSON AND BOB SIMONS HERE THIS EVENING. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME. GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. A LITTLE PRESENTATION FOR YOU HERE THE USUAL PRESENTATION . HERE WE GO. HERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT. WELL, GOOD EVENING ONCE AGAIN. WE'RE HERE TONIGHT FOR THE 2024 PUMP STREET IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. AS MAYOR MENTIONED, I'M BOB SIMON. SO I'M WITH OUR ENGINEERS, SENIOR CIVIL ENGINEER IN OUR ENGINEERING DEPARTMENT, OUR DESIGN AND INFRASTRUCTURE AREA. I'LL BE GIVING THE FIRST PORTION OF THE PRESENTATION. THEN BRIAN HANSON, OUR DEVELOPMENT COORDINATOR WILL GIVE A PORTION OF THE PRESENTATION RELATED TO OUR ADJUSTED FRONT FOOTAGES AND OUR ASSESSMENTS AND THEN I'LL WRAP IT UP. OOPS. SO TO START WHAT IS OUR PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM OR AS WE REFER TO IT MANY OF YOU HAVE HEARD ME GIVE THIS SPIEL A FEW DIFFERENT TIMES BUT OUR PAYMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM WAS IMPLEMENTED BACK IN THE EARLY NINETIES IT'S O OVERALL ASS MANAGEMENT PLAN FOR OUR CITY STREETS HERE IN BLOOMINGTON WE HAVE JUST OVER 340 MILES OF LOCAL ROADWAYS IN BLOOMINGTON. THIS WAS IMPLEMENTED TO REDUCE THE OVERALL COST OF OUR STREET REPAIR BY TAKING THE RIGHT ACTION AT THE RIGHT TIME LOOKING AT THE RIGHT MAINTENANCE TECHNIQUE TO TAKE AT THE RIGHT TIME FOR OUR CITY STREETS AND OUR INFRASTRUCTURE. TO DO THAT WE HAVE EVERY STREET SEGMENT IN BLOOMINGTON HAS A PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX OR A PCI VALUE EVERY YEAR ONE THIRD OF THE CITY STREETS ARE LOCKED. OVERALL CONDITIONS MONITOR THIS AND AS ENTERED INTO OUR OUR DATABASE AND IT GIVES US A HIGH VALUE BWEEN ZEROND 100. USE THI TO HELP US COME UP WITH A FORECAST FOR THE NEXT 5 TO 7 YEARS ON WHAT WOULD BE THE BEST MAINTENANCE TECHNIQUES THOSE STREET SEGMENTS. AND EVERY SPRING WE DO A DRIVE AROUND AND WE UPDATE THAT MAP BASED ON CONDITIONS FROM THE PAST WINTER OTHER PROJECTS THAT WOULD BE COMING. SO WE'RE CONSTANTLY UPDATING THAT MAP WITH OUR STREET RECONSTRUCTION AND OUR STREET AND ON OVERLAY PROJECTS WE DO MULTIPLE MILES PER YEAR OF THOSE PROJECTS TO HELP TO GET A BETTER ECONOMY OF SCALE WHICH IN TURN HELPS TO MANAGE THE ASSESSMENTS THAT ARE ALLOCATED TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS FOR THESE RECONSTRUCTION AND JUST ALSO HELPS TO BETTER MANAGE OUR COST EFFECTIVELY OUR STREETS FOR ALL TAXPAYERS. WHY WAS PMP IMPLEMENTED TO PMP? WE DIDN'T HAVE A SPECIFIC PLAN IN PLACE SO WE WERE FINDING WAY TOO MANY STREETS THAT WERE FAING INTO THAT PROBLEM CATEGORY WHERE WE NEEDED TO COME UP WITH A MORE EFFECTIVE SOLUTION. AND HERE YOU SEE THE GOAL OF THE PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM OUR PAVEMENT LIFE CYCLE ON THE LEFT YOU SEE NORMAL ROAD LIFE BETWEEN WHETHER IT'S CONSTRUCTION OR RECONSTRUCTION. IF YOU PUT OFF SORT OF ROUTINE MAINTENANCE THE ROAD LIFE DECREASES SIGNIFICANTLY FROM THAT IF YOU WOULD THE GOAL OF OUR PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM WHICH YOU SEE ON THE RIGHT BY IMPLEMENTING STREET SEAL COURT AND STREET MILNG OVERLAYS AT THE OPPORTUNE TIMES WE CAN GREATLY INCREASE THE LIFE OF OUR PAVEMENT. AND I SHOULD MENTION AS I MENTIONED EARLIER, WE HAVE JUST OVER 340 MILES OF STREETS . WE STARTED BACK IN THE EARLY NINETIES WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN AROUND TO ALL OF THE STREET SEGMENTS FOR RECONSTRUCTION AND FOR OUR STREET SEGMENTS THAT DON'T HAVE EXISTING CURBING GUTTER. WE WE DON'T DO THEM WHEN WE DO A RECONSTRUCTION WE INSTALL CURB AND GUTTER BUT WE ALSO WE DON'T MILL AND OVERLAY STREET SEGMENTS THAT DON'T HAVE CURB AND GUTTER BECAUSE IT'S NOT COST EFFECTIVE AND WITH THE CONDITIONS THAT CAN OCCUR WITHOUT THAT CURB AND GUTTER DETERIORATE DETERIORATION A LITTLE BIT QUICKER. SO ONCE THE STREET IS RECONSTRUCTED IT FALLS FLY IN THE PROGRAM OF THE SEAL COURTS IN THE MILL AND OVERLAYS WHAT THE PUMP PROGRAM A FEW CHARACTERISTICS OF OUR PMP PROGRAM FOR OUR STREET RECONSTRUCTION AND WE DO TYPICALLY 3 TO 4 AND A HALF MILES PER YEAR THIS YEAR IS NO DIFFERENT. WE'RE AT JUST UNDER THREE MILES WITH SOME ADDITIONAL ITEMS ON THIS PROJECT AS WELL THAT I'LL GET TO HERE IN A MINUTE. OUR STREET VIEWING OVERLAY IS ABOUT NINE MILES OF STREETS PER YEAR AROUND 2026. WE'RE LOOKING TO DROP THAT TO EIGHT MILES PER YEAR BUT TYPICALLY IN THE 8 TO 9 MILE RANGE FOR OUR STREETS HERE OF COURSE WE DO ABOUT 25 MILES PER YEAR SOME OF THE GOALS OF THE PROGRAM BUT KEEP THE OVERALL PCI OR PAVEMENT CONDITION INDEX THE AVERAGE FOR THE CITY TO OVER 70. AS YOU CAN SEE OUR AVERAGE PCI IS HOLDING PRETTY WELL UP AT 78 LAST YEAR AND THIS YEAR AS WELL AND ALSO KEEPING THE PROBLEM STREETS TO WHICH PIECE WITH WHICH ARE PCI IS LESS THAN 35 TO UNDER 10% OF THE TOTAL MILEAGE IN THE CITY. HOW OUR DIFFERENT PUMP TECHNIQUES ARE FUNDED WE HAVE OUR STREET RECONSTRUCTION WHICH IS WHAT THIS PROJECT ENTAILS THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING HERE TONIGHT IS FUNDED THROUGH SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS AND BRIAN WILL GIVE SOME INFORMATION ON THAT AS WELL AS MSA A STATE AID AND LOCAL STATE AID FUNDS. WE DON'T HAVE ANY STATE AID ROUTES ON THIS RECONSTRUCTION THIS YEAR BUT SOME YEARS WE DO AND THEN ALSO OUR WATER SANITARY AND STORMS OR UTILITY FUNDS COVER OUR UTILITY WORK FOR A STREET MILLING OVERLAY TECHNIQUE. IT'S FUNDED THROUGH FRANCHISE FEES A FEE THAT WE COLLECT FROM CENTERPOINT ENERGY AND XCEL ENERGY TO HELP WITH THE MAINTENANCE OF OUR OF OUR INFRASTRUCTURE ALSO ONCE AGAIN LOCAL AND MSA A STATE AID AS WELL AS OUR WATER SANITARY AND STORMS OR UTILITIES AND THEN OUR SEAL COATING AND OUR TRAIL AND SIDEWALK IMPROVEMENTS ARE FUNDED THROUGH FRANCHISE FEES. THE OVERALL IMPROVEMENT PROJECT PROCESS FOR THESE STREET IMPROVEMENT PROJECTS WE'RE HERE FOR THE PUBLIC HEARING OR TO ORDER THE STREET SEGMENTS FOR I'M CONSTRUCTION WHICHEVER STREETS ARE ORDERED FOR CONSTRUCTION WILL IN THE WINTER OF 24 WILL PREPARE THE PLANS AND SPECIFICATIONS FOR THOSE MOVING INTO SPRING WILL BID THE ENTIRE PROJECT ALL TO A CONTRACTOR AND IN THE SUMMER OF 2024 WE'LL CONSTRUCT THAT PROJECT AND THEN WE'LL BE BACK IN THE FALL AFTER THE ADJACENT RESIDENTS RECEIVE THEIR FINAL ASSESSMENT NOTICE WILL HAVE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION OR MEETINGS REGARDING AND WE'LL COME BACK FOR A PUBLIC HEARING TO APPVE THE SPECIAL ASSESSMES FOR THIS PROJECT. A FEW OF THE ADDITIONAL ITEMS ON THIS PROJECT THAT I'D LIKE TO MENTION LYNDALE AVENUE IS ONE OF THE STREET SEGMENTS ON OUR LIST IT'S BEEN ON THE LIST A FEW DIFFERENT YEARS. WE'RE LOOKING TO MAKE CONNECTIONS TO THE DNR AND MANDATE TRAILS THAT WERE RECENTLY CONSTRUCTED ADJACENT TO THIS WITH THIS PROJECT ALSO WE'VE BEEN WORKING WITH U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE ON THE RECONSTRUCTION OF THE PARKING LOT ON THE SOUTH SIDE OF AVENUE. IT'S OWNED BY U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE. THE WORK WILL BE FUNDED BY U.S. FISH AND WILDLIFE BUT WE'RE WORKING WITH THEM ON THE DESIGN OF THAT OF THAT RECONSTRUCTION T INCLUDE IT WITH THIS WITH THIS PROJECT AS WELL AND ALSO WITH THE POSSIBLE FEDERAL SHUTDOWN IMPLICATIONS U.S.. FISH AND WILDLIFE WOULD BE WOULD BE PUT ON HOLD FOR A PERIOD OF TIME. BUT WE'RE CONTINUING WORK THROUGH HOPING THAT THERE'S NO HOLD UPS IN THAT REGARD. BUT JUST WANTED TO MENTION THAT AND ALSO LYNDALE AVENUE WITH THE ADDITIONAL WORK THAT'S BEING DONE WITH THIS PROJECT WE'D PLAN ON BUILDING LYNDALE AVENUE AS ITS OWN PROJECT. IT WILL BE ASSESSED AS PART OF THE 24 ONE ON ONE PROJECT BUT IT'LL BE BUILT AS ITS OWN PROJECT OUT TO A CONTRACTOR. THIS COMING SPRING 82ND STREET IT'S NOT ON THE LIST OF STREET SEGMENTS, NOT AN ASSESSED SEGMENT OF STREET ON THIS PROJECT. HOWEVER THERE'S WATER MAIN UPSIZING THAT'S NEEDED ON 82ND STREET BETWEEN 12TH AVENUE AND OLD CEDAR AVENUE. SO WE'D BE LOOKING AT DOING THAT WORK WITH THIS THIS LARGER PACKAGE OF THIS PROJECT BEEN OUT TO A CONTRACTOR FUNDED THROUGH OURSELVES, HOOKED UP CASPER BETWEEN OURSELVES WITH THE DEVELOPMENT FUND AND ALSO OUR WATER A WATER UTILITY AND THEN OUR 84TH AND DUPONT4TH STREET IN DUPONT AVENUE ARE TWO SEGMENTS THAT ARE ON THE LIST OF STREET SEGMENTS FOR THE 24 ONE AND ONE THERE'S SOME SANITARY SEWER UPSIZING THAT WILL BE NEEDED AND NOW WE'RE IN THE FUTURE FOR A PAN AMERICAN SOUTH TOWN DEVELOPMENT WORKING WITH A CONCERN, WORKING WITH OUR UTILITY STAFF AND A CONSULTANT DETERMINING WHAT THE BEST ROUTE FOR THAT SANITARY SEWER UPSIZING WOULD BE AND IF IT IS DETERMINED THAT WE WOULD BE UPSIZING ON THE ROUTE THAT INCLUDES 84TH AND DUPONT WE WOULD LIKE TO INCLUDE THAT WITH THIS PROJECT AND STAFF IS STILL REVIEWING THE FUNDING OPTIONS FOR THAT WORK IF IT WERE TO BE INCLUDED. NOW BRIAN WILL GIVE US SOME INFORMATION ON OUR ASSESSMENTS ALL RIGHT. THANKS BOB. SO AS PART OF THE NOISE PUBLIC HEARING THAT THE RESIDENTS RECEIVED FOR TONIGHT'S MEETING WE DID INCLUDE IN AN ESTIMATE ASSESSMENT WITH THAT AND THAT AS REQUIRED BY STATE STATUTE IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE YOUR SPECIAL ASSESSMENT THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS NEED TO BE NOTIFIED OF THE ESTIMATED ASSESSMENT AT THAT POINT AND WE APPLIED THE CITY'S SPECIAL ASSESSMENT POLICY TO CALCULATE THAT SPECIAL ASSESSMENT OR ESTIMATED SPECIAL ASSESSMENT I SHOULD SAY AND THE ADJUSTED FRONT FOR THAT IS REALLY THE BASIS OF OUR ASSESSMENTS CALCULATIONS HERE IN THE CITY OF BOYNTON AND WE USE AN ADJUSTED FRONT FOOTAGE. SO WHAT THAT DOES IS IT EQUATES ALLOSSES, ALLHE RECTANGULAR LOTS REGARDLESS OF THEIR SHAPE AND THEN THE ACTUAL FRONTAGE OF A PARCEL MAY NOT EQUAL THE ADJUSTED FRONT FOOTAGE DEPENDING ON THE SHAPE OF THE PARCEL. SO IF IT'S A TYPICAL RECTANGULAR SHAPED PARCEL THE ADJUSTED FRONT FOOTAGE WOULD MATCH THAT. BUT IF YOU HAVE A UNIQUE SHAPE A LARGER PARCEL, A PIE SHAPED PARCEL YOU WOULD SEE THAT JUST A DIFFERENT FRONT FOOTAGE VERSUS YOUR ACTUAL FRONTAGE AND THEN WHEN THOSE ARE ALL CALCULATED THAT MULTIPLIED BY THE RATE FOR THE IMPROVEMENT YOU'RE SUBJECT TO AN ASSESSMENT FOR IS THAT ASSESSMENT IS CALCULATED SO FOR T 2024 PROJECT HERE ARE THE TWO IMPROVEMENTS THAT ARE SUBJECT TO AN ASSESSMENT FOR THIS YEAR'S PROJECT POTENTIAL PROJECT. THE FIRST ONE IS SURFACING SO THE ESTIMATED COST FOR ALL THE SURFACING IMPROVEMENTS FOR THE PROJECT IS ROUGHLY $4.2 MILLION AND AGAIN THESE ARE ESTIMATED ROUNDED NUMBERS HERE. SO ROUNDED TO THE NEAREST WHOLE DOLLAR HERE THE ADJUSTED FRONT FOOTAGE OF ALL THE PARCELS THAT WERE SUBJECT TO A SURFACING ASSESSMENT IS JUST OVER 24,000 SO THAT'S ADDING THE INDIVIDUAL ADJUSTED FRONT FOOTAGES OF ALL THOSE PARCELS THAT ARE SUBJECT TO THAT ASSESSMENT SO THAT TOTAL COST FOR THAT SURFACING APPROVAL DIVIDED BY THOSE TOTAL AFS EQUAL THAT $176 PER FOOT. SO THAT'S 100% RATE THAT WE WOULD NEED TO ASSESS ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS TO PAY FOR THAT IMPROVEMENT 100% THROUGH SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS. THE CITY'S POLICY IS TO ASSESS AT TWO DIFFERENT RATES SINGLE TWO AND THREE FAMILY PROPERTIES ARE ASSESSED AT A 25% RATE SO THAT BREAKS DOWN TO APPROXIMATELY $44 PER FOOT AND ALL OF PROPERTY TYPES ARE ASSESSED AT A 50% RATE. SO THAT'S AT ABOUT $88 PER FOOT RIGHT NOW BASED ON OUR ESTIMATED AMOUNTS. ADDITIONALLY WE DID THE SAME EXERCISE FOR CURB AND GUTTER. YOU CAN SEE THAT TOTAL COST IS RIGHT ABOUT $1.1 MILLION ON THE ADJUSTED FRONT FOOTAGE A THIS ONE ISUCH LESS THA THIS SURFACING THE REASON BEING THE CITY'S POLICY IS TO ASSESS ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS FOR THE INITIAL INSTALLATION CURB AND GUTTER WHEN IT'S FIRST INSTALLED ON THE STREET WITH CURVING GUTTERS ALREADY IN PLACE WHICH ON MANY SEGMENTS BEING CONSIDERED THIS EVENING THERE IS CRUMBLING GUTTER IN PLACE. THERE MAY BE CURB AND GUTTER THAT'S REPLACED AS PART OF THE PROJECT IN AREAS WHERE IT'S IN DISREPAIR OR WE HAVE DRAINAGE ISSUES BUT THAT WORK IS NOT BACK TO THE PROPERTY OWNER SO YOU ONLY CHARGE THE FIRST TIME THAT CURRENT GUTTER IS INSTALLED WHICH IS THE DIFFERENCE IN THOSE TWO TOTAL FS YOU SEE THERE. SO AGAIN DURING THE SAME PROCESS WE HAVE THAT $122 PER FOOT IS THAT HUNDRED PERCENT RATE AND THEN BREAKING IT DOWN INTO OUR SINGLE TWO AND THREE FAMILY AT $31 PER FOOT AND ALL THEIR PROPERTY TYPES ARE AT THAT 50% RATE OF $62 PER FOOT. SO THE ESTIMATED ASSESSMENTS THAT PROPERTY OWNERS RECEIVED DEPENDING ON WHICH IMPROVEMENTS THEY WERE SUBJECT TO AN ASSESSMENT FOR TOOK THEIR IF MULTIPLIED BY THE APPROPRIATE RATES AND THEY ADD THOSE TOGETHER AND THAT'S HOW WE CALCULATED THE ESTIMATED ASSESSMENTS THEY RECEIVE THE MAIL THIS GRAPHIC HERE JUST SHOWS US AND COMPARES COMPARISONS OF JUST OTHER TWIN CITIES MUNICIPALITIES AND KIND OF THEIR THEIR PROCESS FOR ASSESSING YOU CAN KIND OF SEE HOW BLOINGTON'S PROCE OF 25 AND 50% RATES COMPARE TO OTHER ADJACENT COMMUNITIES IN THE AREA. SO NEXT TIME I TALK ABOUT SOME ASSESSMENT PAYMENT OPTIONS AGAIN IF THE PROJECT IS ORDERED AND WHEN WE COME BACK IN THE FALL WITH THE ASSESSMENT ROLL IF THAT IS APPROVED BY COUNCIL AND LEVIED ON PROPERTY OWNERS WOULD HAVE FROM THAT DATE UNTIL NOVEMBER 29TH OF 2024 TO PAY A PORTION OF THE ASSESSMENT IF THEY CHOOSE $100 MINIMUM UP TO THE WHOLE AMOUNT IF THEY WANTED TO AND AVOID PAYING ANY INTEREST AFTER NOVEMBER 29TH OF 2024 ANY REMAINING BALANCE AUTOMATICALLY GETS ROLLED ON TO THE PROPERTY TAX STATEMENT AND INTEREST IS APPLIED ANNUALLY TO THE DECLINING PRINCIPAL AND THAT PRINCIPLE SPREAD EVENLY OVER TEN YEARS WITH THAT INTEREST AS I SAID APPLIED TO THE DECLINING PRINCIPAL. SO IF A PROPERTY OWNER WAS ASSESSED FOR THE WORK AS PART OF THE 2024 PROJECT CHOSE NOT TO PREPAY ANY AMOUNT THE FIRST TIME THEY WOULD SEE A BILL FOR THIS WORK WOULD BE WITH THEIR MAY OF 2025 PROPERTY TAX STATEMENT AND IF THEY WERE TO LET THAT ASSESSMENT PLAY OUT OVER THE ENTIRE TEN YEARS OF THE ASSESSMENT THE LAST PAYMENT THEY WOULD SEE WOULD BE WITH THEIR OCTOBER OF 2030 FOR PROPERTY TAX STATEMENT AFTER THAT AFTER THE ASSESSMENT IS LEVIED TO THE PROPERTY TAXES THE THE PROPERTY OWNER HAS TWO OPTIONS FOR PAYMENT IS TO PAY WHAT IS DUE WITH THAT PARTICULAR PROPERTY TAX STATEMENT OR AT ANY POINT DURING THOSE TEN YEARS THEY COULD CHOOSE TO OFF THE REMAINING BALANCE IN FULL AND IF THEY DO SO THEY WOULD AVOID PAYING ANY ADDITIONAL INTEREST. UNFORTUNATELY THE COUNTY DOES NOT ACCEPT PARTIAL PAYMENTS AFTER UNDER THE PROPERTY TAXES SO IF SOMEONE WANTED TO PAY IT DOWN A LITTLE FASTERHAT'S NOT AN OPTN. YOU CAN OY PAY THE AMOUNT DUE WITH THEIR YOUR STATEMENT OR THE ENTIRE AMOUNT IN FULL. THE CITY DOES HAVE A HARDSHIP DEFERRAL PROGRAM FOR THOSE THAT QUALIFY. THIS IS NOT A FORGIVENESS OF THE ASSESSMENT RATHER DEFERRAL OF IT AND THERE ARE CERTAIN REQUIREMENTS THAT ONE MUST MEET AND NEED TO MEET THESE ANNUALLY. SO IF YOU IF SOMEONE IS INTERESTED IN THIS ASSESSMENT OR ASSESSING DIVISION CAN HELP YOU WITH THAT TO SEE IF YOU DO QUALIFY AND IF YOU DO QUALIFY YOU MUST PROVIDE PROOF OF ON AN ANNUAL BASIS. LIKE I SAID, IF YOU NO LONGER QUALIFY AFTER GOT INTO A DEFERRAL AT WHICH POINT YOU NO LONGER QUALIFY OR THE PRORTY IS SOLD TO A NEW OWNER THAT ASSESSMENT BECOMES OUT ASSESSMENT BECOMES DUE IN FULL AT THAT POINT. SO THAT'S SOMETHING TO KEEP IN MIND AND INTEREST STILL DOES APPLY TO THAT ASSESSMENT WAS IN THAT DEFERRAL AND WITHOUT IMPACT OF THE BOMB. ALL RIGHT. A LITTLE BIT INFORMATION ON PROPERTY OWNER CONTACT ALL THE ADJACENT RESIDENTS AND RECEIVES THEIR DIRECT MAILING THEIR NOTICE OF PUBLIC HEARING WITH THEIR ESTIMATED ASSESSMENT NOTICE THAT OR AMOUNT WITH THAT WITH A DATE FOR AN INFORMATIONAL MEETING WE HELD INFORMATIONAL MEETINGS AND THE PUBLIC WORKS TRAINING ROOM ON MONY OCTOBER 30TH FOR THE LYNDALE AVENUE SEGMENT AND THEN ON MONDAY, NOVEMBER SIXTH FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE SEGMENTS ON THE PROJECT AND A TYPICAL YEAR WE'VE BEEN FIELDING PHONE CALLS PRIOR TO UP TO AND THEN I'M SURE WE'LL HAVE SOME POST MEETING QUESTIONS AND COMMENTS AS WELL . BUT FOR THIS PROJECT WE HAD SOME NEIGHBORHOODS TREAT WITH SURVEYS THAT WERE SENT OUT. I DON'T KNOW IF ANY OF YOU REMEMBER FROM LAST YEAR WE DID MISSION LANE PART OF THE 2023 RECONSTRUCTION AND WE SEND OUT SURVEYS TO THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS BECAUSE THEY'RE KIND OF A DIFFERENT UNIQUE AREA WE HAV THREE OF THOSEHIS YEAR WE HE ORCHARD SPRINGS ROAD OVERLOOK DRIVE AND MEADOW VIEW ROAD WHERE THEY HAVE EXISTING NARROWER STREET WIDTHS, LOWER TRAFFIC VOLUMES OUR STANDARD CURBING GUTTER WITH FOR WHEN WE COME IN INSTALL CURB AND GUTTER IS 32 FEET FROM FACE OF CURB TO FACE A CURB WE SENT NOTICES OUT AND SURVEYS OUT TO THE THESE THREE NEIGHBORHOODS WITH THE SAME THING WE DID FOR MISSION LANE LAST YEAR IN THAT ASKING IF THEY WOULD LIKE THE OPTION OF GOING WITH THE 32 FOOT STANDARD OR POSSIBLY REDUCING A 28 FOOT WITH WITH A LIMITING PARKING ON ONE SIDE OF THE ROAD. SOME OF THESE STREET SEGMENTS ARE ALREADY AT A 28 TO 30 FOOT WIDTH SO IT WON'T BE MUCH OF A CHANGE IN THAT REGARD. WE'VE WE RECEIVED A MIXED RESULTS FROM THE OVERLOOK DRIVE AND MEADOW VIEW ROAD FOLKS ALMOST A 5050 SPLIT. BUT WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO RECEIVE RESPONSES PROBABLY THROUGH MID TO LATE. WELL, WE ARE TO MID NOVEMBER PROBABLY TO LATE NOVEMBER FROM THOSE BUT FOR THE OVERLOOK OR EXCUSE ME THE ORCHARD SPRINGS RESIDENTS THERE WAS A STRONG RESPONSE OUT OF THE TEN PROPERTIES THAT WAS SENT TO INITIALLY WE RECEIVED RESPONSE FROM EIGHT OF THE TEN THAT THEY WANTED TO GO OFF THE 28 FOOTITH WHICH I PRETTY MUC WHAT THE EXISTING WITH THIS OUT ON OVER ORCHARD SPRINGS ROAD BUT THEY'RE ALL THEY'RE ALSO A NUMBER OF THEM INCLUDED AN OPTION C WHICH WAS RECONSTRUCTED AT A 28 FOOT WIDTH BUT DO NOT INSTALL CURB AND GUTTER. SO WE HAD GOOD CONVERSATION WITH A NUMBER OF THE RESIDENTS AT THE NEIGHBORHOOD MEETING LAST MONDAY, NOVEMBER 6TH. I THINK SEVEN OF THE TEN PROPERTIES WERE REPRESENTED AND I BELIEVE THEY'RE WELL REPRESENTED HERE AS WELL TONIGHT. BUT WE NOTED THAT AS PART OF THE PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM WE DON'T RECONSTRUCT STREETS SEGMENTS AND NOT INSTALL URBAN GUTTER IF THERE'S NOT CURRENTLY CURB AND GUTTER. A FEW OF THE REASONS THAT WE GAVE FOR THAT WERE WITH THE STALLATION OF TH CURB AND GUTTER. IT HELPS TO CREATE THAT BARRIER ON THE ROADWAY OF NOT ALLOWING FOR WATER TO GET INTO THAT NEW BASE THAT WE'RE PUTTING IN INSTALLING WITH THE STREET RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT AND CAUSING THE EDGES TO DETERIORATE QUICKER OR THE PAVEMENT ITSELF TO DETERIORATE QUICKER. SOME OF THESE AREAS HAVE HAVE GOOD DRAINAGE THE WAY IT IS WITHOUT CURVING GUTTER BUT THE INSTALLATION OF THE CURBING GUTTER REALLY HELPS US TO CONTROL THAT STORMWATER DRAINAGE AND GET INTO OUR STORMWATER SYSTEMS AND THEN ALSO THE CURB AND GUTTER HELPS FOR MAINTENANCE TECHNIQUES OUR STREET SWEEPING IN OUR SNOW PLOWING AS WELL. AND AS I MENTIONED EARLIER WE ALSO DON'T ML AND OVERLAY STREET SEGMENTS THAT DON'T HAVE CURVING GUTTER JUST FOR THE FACT THAT IT'S NOT COST EFFECTIVE TO PUT ALL THOSE DOLLARS INTO THAT PAVEMENT WHEN WE KNOW WE'RE PROBABLY GOING TO BE GETTING SOME SOME UNDERLYING ISSUES SOONER OR A DETERIORATION SOONER THAN WE WOULD LIKE TO SEE. WITH THAT SAID, WE ALSO HAD A DISCUSSION WITH THOSE PROPERTY OWNERS ABOUT IN THE PAST AND THERE'S A FEW NEIGHBORHOODS LIKE THE TIMBER NEIGHBORHOOD IS ONE EXAMPLE THAT WAS A NUMBER OF YEARS AGO BUT WHERE IF A REQUEST CAME FROM THE NEIGHBORS WE'VE LOOKED AT DOING A DIFFERENT TYPE OF CURB RATHER THAN OUR STANDARD B 618 WHICH IS THE THE STRAIT SEIONS SIX INCHACE ON THE CURBING GUTTER JUST THE REGULAR STANDARD STANDARD CURB AND GUTTER YOU'D SEE AROUND TOWN BUT RATHER USING A MOUNTABLE OR A RIBBON CURB WHICH IS A LITTLE BIT SLOWER OF A TRANSITION FOR THE CURB. THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE MENTIONED THAT WE WOULD ENTERTAIN WE WOULD WE'D LIKE TO SEND IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT THE COUNCIL WOULD DESIRE, WE'D LIKE TO SEND NOTICES OR SURVEYS AGAIN TO THE ENTIRE NEIGHBORHOOD TO KNOW THAT THAT IS THE TYPE OF CURB THAT THE MAJORITY WOULD LIKE TO SEE. BUT I KNOW THERE WAS WE DISCUSSED THIS WITH THE ORCHARD SPRINGS FOLKS AND I HAD ALSO HEARD FROM AN INDIVIDUAL ON MEADOW VIEW THAT WOULD HAVE INTEREST IN THAT SO WE COULD LOOK AT PURSUIN THAT AND SERVING THE ENTIRE STREETS SEGMENT I MEAN AS I MENTIONED I KNOW THERE'S A NUMBER OF FOLKS THAT ARE PROBABLY HERE TO SPEAK ON THOSE ITEMS THAT WE DISCUSSED LAST WEEK AS WELL A SUMMARY FOR THE PMP TO IMPLEMENT THE RIGHT ACTION AT THE RIGHT TIME PROLONGING OUR PAVEMENT LIFE, REDUCING OUR OVERALL COST OF OUR STREET, OUR STREET MAINTENANCE, HELPING TO MAINTAIN OUR CITY'S INFRASTRUCTURE AND WE HAVE THE MOTION RECOMMENDED MOTION BEFORE YOU HERE TONIGHT. I WILL ALSO NOTE THAT RIVER STETS ARE ORDEREDONIGHT PRIOR TO OCTOBER 2024 BEFORE THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT PUBLIC HEARING STAFF WILL DETERMINE THE RECOMMENDATIONS FOR THE ASSESSMENTS AND. THEN IN OCTOBER OF 2024 THERE'LL BE THAT PUBLIC HEARING TO ORDER THE ASSESSMENTS OR TONIGHT IS JUST FOR THE ORDERING OF THE PROJECT NOTHING RELATED TO THE ORDERING, THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS. SO WITH THAT WE'LL OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS. THANK YOU MR. SALMONS. MR. HANSON, APPRECIATE IT GOOD INFORMATION AS ALWAYS THE COUNCIL QUESTIONS ON THIS. COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN THANK YOU MAYOR. I'M SO I WANTED TO ASK AND ALL THE LAST TIME WE MET ON THE LINDELL'S BLUFF AREAS THERE WAS A CONVERSATION WITH THAT HRA OR THAT THAT GROUP THAT WAS ORGANIZED AND I WANTED TO GET A IT JUST FOR THE PUBLIC STANDPOINT A KIND OF A FEEDBACK IN TERMS OF WHAT WAS DISCUSSED THERE AND WHAT WAS DETERMINED FROM THAT PARTICULAR DISCUSSION BECAUSE I KNOW AS A PART OF THAT MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT YOU HAD FOLKS THAT WERE PART OF TH THAT ASSOCIATION TT WAS A PARTF THE CONVERSATION AM I CORRECT IN THAT THINKING? COULD YOU COULD YOU JUST GIVE US A LITTLE UPDATE ON THAT IN TERMS OF WHAT THE RECOMMENDATIONS WERE AND HOW THAT CAME OUT THERE? SO I'M GETTING A COUPLE I'VE GOTTEN YOU KNOW, ONE OR TWO EMAILS OR SO FOLKS HAVE GOT SOME PROBLEMS AND I WANTED TO ASK QUESTIONS OF OTHERS. SURE. ABSOLUTELY. I THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COUNCILMEMBER SO WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS WHEN THIS LYNDALE AVENUE WAS WAS CONSIDERED WITH THE 2021 P AND P I BELIEVE AND AT THAT TIME AND AS AS AS WE DO ALWAYS WITH THE INITIAL ESTIMATE ASSESSMENTS, WE JUST SIMY APPLY THE ASSESSMENT POLICY BY TAKING THE ADJUSTED FRONT FOOTAGE MULTIPLIED BY THE RATE AND PROVIDE THEM THAT NUMBER AS YOU KNOW BEFORE PRIOR TO THE FINAL ASSESSMENT ROLL BEING BROUGHT BEFORE YOU WE WILL LOOK AT THE SPECIAL BENEFIT TO CONFIRM THAT WHATEVER THAT FINAL ASSESSMENT AMOUNT IS THAT THAT IS WITHIN THE RANGE OF THE SPECIAL BENEFIT THEY'RE RECEIVING FROM THE IMPROVEMENT THAT'S BEING ASSESSED IN THE CASE OF THE BUS THAT STANDS FOR YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD, OUR CURRENT POLICY AT THE TIME DIDN'T REALLY HAVE A GOOD WAY OF CALCULATING A JUST OR A ESTIMATE OR AN ASSESSMENT THAT IN LINE WITHHE BENEFIT THA PROPERTIES LIKE TT OR THOSE WOULD RECEIVE BASED ON KIND OF THE CHARACTERISTICS OF THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE KNEW THAT AND WE ACKNOWLEDGED THAT AT THAT AT THE INFORMATIONAL MEETING AND SAID THESE WILL NEED TO BE ADJUSTED PRIOR TO THE FINAL ASSESSMENT GOING OUT AND THE NEIGHBORHOOD ENGAGED AND IS HOPING WONDERING IF THERE WAS A WAY THAT WE COULD AMEND OUR POLICY TO BETTER ALIGN IT WITH NEIGHBORHOODS SUCH AS THIS AND THAT SEGMENT. LYNDALE WAS ACTUALLY TAKEN OFF OF THAT YEAR'S PROJECT AND THEN AFTER THAT WE DID HAVE MEETINGS WITH THE RESIDENTS THERE AND KIND OF WORKED THROUGH SOME OPTIONS BACK BEFORE COUNCIL WITH SOME RECOMMENDED REVISIONS TO THE POLICY THATOULD BETTE ADDRESS THAT NEIBORHOOD. I THINK WE HAD THREE OPTIONS. THE NEIGHBOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD VOTED OUT OR KIND OF GAVE THEIR THEIR SENSE ON WHICH ONE THEY PREFERRED WHEN BEFORE COUNCIL MADE SOME RECOMMENDATIONS AND ACTUALLY AMENDED THE POLICY BASED ON THOSE CONVERSATIONS SO THAT NEW POLICY WAS APPLIED TO THE ESTIMATE ASSESSMENTS WERE PROVIDED TO THE PLUS ON SANDPIPER NEIGHBORHOOD THIS YEAR. SO THANKS FOR GIVING THAT THAT BACKGROUND BECAUSE WHILE IT WAS A LONG TIME AGO WAS LOOKING AT 2021 FOR QUITE SOME TIME AND I BET THE PRICE OF THAT HAS GONE UP QUITE A BIT TOO SINCE THEN AS WELL. SO ONE OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT THAT THEY HAD WAS AROUND THIS AMES CONSTRUCTION MONEY THAT SEEMS TO BE A BIG CONTENTION THAT THIS IDEA THAT THAT ROAD WAS, YOU KNOW, MESSED UP THROUGH THE CONSTRUCTION WAS DONE TO THAT AND THERE'S THERE'S AN UNDERSTANDING, YOU KNOW, WIDELY WHEN I KNOW WHEN I DOORKNOCKED THAT PEOPLE WERE CERTAINLY SAYING THAT THAT THAT THEIR BELIEF IS THAT THAT MONEY SHOULD BE WHOLLY AND SOLELY COMMITTED TO JUST THAT PROJECT. WHY IS THAT THINKING YOU KNOW OFFERS THAT THAT THINKING RIGHT YOU KNOW HELP ME UNDERSTAND WHY THAT ALL THOSE THOSE DOLLARS SHOULDN'T BE ASSESSED TO THAT PARTICULAR PROJECT ESPECIALLY SINCE WE'RE PULLING IT OUT MAKING SEPARATE. SURE. SO THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBER IN THAT CASE, AS BOB MENTIONED, WE WE BID THE PROJECT AS A WHOLE PROJECT SO WE INCLUDE ALL THE SEGMENTS INCLUDING THE LYNDALE SEGMENT EVEN THOUGH IT'S A SEPARATE PROJECT WE ARE ASSESSING THAT AND LUMPING THAT IN THE SURFACING IMPROVEMENT WITH THAT WITH THE OTHER 12 SEGMENTS ARE BEING CONSIDERED THIS EVENING AND THE REASON IN DOING SO IS THAT WE GET A BETTER COST FOR ALL THE PROPERTIES IN OOMINGTON AS OPPOD TO JUST PIECE MEALING IT OUT. I CAN SAY THAT THE AMES MONEY WAS SET ASIDE UNTIL THE LYNDALE AVENUE SEGMENT WAS PART OF OUR UPCOMING PMP PROJECT SO THE 4.2 MILLION ESTIMATED 4.2 MILLION COST FOR SERVICING THAT I PRESENTED HERE THIS EVENING THAT THE TOTAL COST OF THE IMPROVEMENT WAS MINUS AMES MONEY. SO THEY ARE SEEING THAT WAS APPLIED PRIOR TO US DOING O CALCULATIONS FOR THE ASSESSMENT. SO ALONG WITH THAT AMES CONSTRUCTION MONEY FOR THE I-35W PROJECT THE BRIDGE CONSTRUCTION WE ALSO DID RECEIVE SOME STATE PARK FUND ACCOUNT GRANT THAT WAS ALSO APPLIED FOR THAT AND THAT'S WHERE THE CONNECTION DOWN TO PARKING LOT AT THE END OF THE SOUTH TERMINAL LYNDALE AVENUE AS WELL BUT THE AMES PIECE IS BEING ATTRIBUTED TO THE ENTIRE NOT JUST THE LYNDALE PIECE AND THAT'S THE PIECE THAT THEY'RE WANTING TO UNDERSTAND WHY NOT JUST LYNDALE AND THAT'S BECAUSE WE DON'T WE DON'T RATES FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL SEGMENT OF THE POPPY PROJECT WE SET A RATE FOR THE ENTIRE PROJECT SO WE LOOK AT IT AS A WHOLE IF WE WERE TO DO SET RATES FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL SEGMENT YOU KNOW FIRST OF ALL THE ADMINISTRATN TO DO THAT TO B ABLE TO PIECE THA OUT WOULD PROBABLY ANY BENEFITS THAT ONE SEGMENT WOULD RECEIVE FROM A LOWER COST FOR THAT. SECONDLY, IT COULD IT COULD RELATE OR COULD LEAD WILDLY DIFFERENT ASSESSMENT RATES FOR EACH INDIVIDUAL SECTION DEPENDING ON THE TYPE OF CONSTRUCTION NEEDED. IF YOU HAVE REALLY GOOD SOILS AND YOU DON'T NEED TO DO MUCH CORRECTION IF YOU HAVE A FEW PROPERTIES YOU KNOW THAT COST IS SPLIT OUT AMONG YOU KNOW TEN PROPERTIES AS OPPOSED TO THE 400 OR SO PROPERTIES THAT ARE PART OF THIS WHOLE PROJECT. SO THE POLICY HAS ALWAYS BEEN TO APPLY IT TO THE ENTIRE PROJECT WITH THE PROJECT AS A WHOLE GIVES US THE MOST COMPETITIVE PRICES AND GIVES THE LOWEST COST THE RATES PER FOOT THAT WE CAN APPLY TO ALL PROPERTIES SO KIND OF AS A BENEFIT ON BOTH ENDS OF THE SPECTRUM SO YOU GET A LITTLE BIT FROM THIS YOU GET A LITTLE BIT FROM FROM BEING PART OF LITTLE GROUP. SO THE LAST QUESTION I HAVE HERE ON THIS PARTICULAR ONE IS THERE'S THIS IDEA THAT THAT SOMETHING SIMILAR TO THIS WENT TO THE SUPREME COURT IN SAINT PAUL AND THERE WAS A CASE WHERE THAT THAT THAT ASSESSMENT DIDN'T WORK OUT IN THE SUPREME COURT, YOU KNOW, SUED AND THEY WERE ABLE TO WIN. SO IS THERE ANY CONCERN STAFF HAS AT ALL WITH THAT SIMILAR YOU KNOW IF IT'S HAPPENING LIKE THAT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE? SURE. MR. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER, I'M AWARE OF THIS OF THE SAME THAT THAT'S COME UP AT PREVIOUS MEETINGS BEFORE. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT IN THAT CASE THE ASSESSMENTS WERE BEING APPLIED TO MAINTENANCE ACTIVITIES. THEY TO FULL IMPROVEMENTS WHEREAS WE'RE ASSESSING FOR THE RECONSTRUCTION OF THESE STREETS I BELIEVE IN THE SAINT PAUL CASE AND AGAIN THIS IS DON'T QUOTE ME ON THIS BUT THAT IT WAS APPLIED TO IMPROVEMTS AND THAT IS WRE EY GOT INTO TROLE. THEY COULDN'T SHOW A SPECIAL BENEFIT. IT WAS THE ROUTINE MAINTENANCE OF MAINTAINING THAT INFRASTRUCTURE WHEREAS IN OUR ASSESSMENTS WE APPLYING IT TO BRAND NEW INFRASTRUCTURE AND SHOWING SPECIAL BENEFIT AND WE DO THAT THROUGH OUR SPECIAL BENEFIT ANALYSIS THAT WE DO PRIOR TO THE ASSESSMENT ROLL BEING SUBMITTED. SO EVERY THREE YEARS WE DO A COMPREHENSIVE SPECIAL BENEFIT ANALYSIS OF THE ENTIRE CITY TO GET AN AVERAGE SPECIAL BENEFIT FOR OF THE COMMUNITY PROJECT FOR SINGLE FAMILY HOMES AND THEN EACH YEAR WE ALSO DO AN ADDENDUM AND WE INCLUDE NON SINGLE FAMILY HOMES RESIDENTIAL INSTITUTIONAL PARK ACE, OPENPACE AND ALSO ANY UNIQUE SINGLE HOMES THAT MAY BE UP CLOSE TO THAT THRESHOLD OR ARE SHOWING CALCULATED ASSESSMENT THAT MAY BE ABOVE WHAT OUR AVERAGE SPECIAL BENEFIT IS. AND THIS YEAR'S PROJECT WE DO HAVE A HANDFUL OF PROPERTIES THAT ARE LARGER YOU KNOW, AND ARE UNIQUE THAT WE I KNOW THAT WE WILL BE SENDING THOSE TO OUR SPECIAL BENEFIT COUNSELOR HERE IN THE IN THE SPRING OF THE SUMMER TO HAVE THEM LOOK AT THOSE INDIVIDUALLY SO THAT WE'RE CONFIDENT THAT WHATEVER THAT CALCULATED ASSESSMENT THAT IS IN LINE WITH THE BENEFIT AND IF WE NEED TO ADJUST THAT WE WOULD DO SO ON BRING THAT BEFORE THE COUNCIL PRIOR TO THAT FINAL ASSESSMENT COME THROUGH FOR YOU. THANK YOU. I KW WE'RE NOT HER FOR ASSESSMENT. I KNOW WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME ON THAT BUT I KNOW THERE ARE FOLKS THAT ARE GOING TO ASK THAT QUESTION AND I JUST WANT TO JUST JUST BE ABSOLUTELY CLEAR THAT WHEN YOU GOT TOGETHER THAT YOU KNOW THAT THAT THE RECOMMENDATION THAT LOOKED AT LIKE THAT THE THE NEIGHBORS THAT WERE PART OF THE PEER AREA AGREED WITH MOST OF MOST OF THEM AGREED WITH WHAT THE STAFF HAD PUT FORWARD AND THAT'S WHAT WE BASICALLY ENDED UP DO. I KNOW IT'S A LONG TIME AGO BUT. I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT WE'RE ALL CLEAR ABOUT THAT AND I WOULD I WOULD POINT OUT ONE MORE THING IS THAT WE DID NOT DO THE SPECIAL BENEFIT ANALYSIS FOR BUS ON OR NEIGHBORHOOD THAT LAST TIME BECAUSE THE SEGMENT GOT PULLED. SO EVEN THOUGH THAT WE'VE VISED OUR ASSESENT POLICY THE NUMBERSHEY RECEIVED ARE BASED ON THAT NEW REVISED ASSESSMENT POLICY WE WILL STILL DO THAT BENEFIT ANALYSIS TO SEE WHERE THOSE NUMBERS FALL IN LINE. SO IF THERE'S AN ADJUSTMENT THEY'LL COME BEFORE YOU PRIOR TO THAT FINAL ASSESSMENT NOTICE BEING SENT OUT TO THOSE PROPERTIES THANK THOSE ALSO COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. I'D LIKE TO I A FEELING WE'LL HEAR FROM SOME RESIDENTS RELATED TO THIS SPECIFICALLY TONIGHT AND THERE WAS SOME PUBLIC COMMENT SUBMITTED INTO THE PACKET AS WELL ON THIS BUT I, I WANT TO ASK THIS AS MORE OF A GENERAL BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LIKE IT SOUNDS LIKE THERE ARE PROPERTIES WITHIN THE CITY THAT ARE KIND OF DOUBLE TAXED IF YOU WILL ONE ASSESSED IF YOU WILL, ONE FOR THE FRONT SIDE OF THEIR THEIR PROPERTY WHERE THEY ACTUALLY THE ROAD AND THE BACK SIDE OF THE PROPERTY WHERE THEY DON'T USE THE ROAD. MAYBE THEY DO, MAYBE THEY DON'T BUT IT'S NOT IT'S NOT CONSIDERED FRONTAGE ROAD IF YOU WILL FOR THEIR PROPERTY BECAUSE IT'S THE BACK SIDE OF PROPERTY. RIGHT. I'M CURIOUS AS TO WHY OUR POLICY IS TO ASSESS INDIVIDUALS IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANS WHEN WE'RE LARGEL TALKING ABOUTEEDER ROS TO LIKE HIGHWAY CONSTRUCTION AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT AND THEREFORE NOT REALLY NOT ANYONE'S PARTICULAR FAULT AND OR HOW TO SAY IT NEIGHBORHOODS HAVE BEEN DENIED ACCESS TO THAT PORTION OF THE ROAD BY VIRTUE OF 35 W OR 77 OR SOMETHING TO THAT EFFECT. WHAT WHAT IS OUR POLICY ON THAT AND WOULD THIS PORT WOULD THIS FOR LATER NOT TONIGHT BUT FOR LATER I'D LIKE US TO MAYBE RECONSIDER THAT BEING OUR POLICY THAT IF YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE A HOUSE AND THE BACK SIDE OF THE OF YOUR HOUSE ALSO HAS A ROAD ON IT AND THERE ISN'T ANYBODY TO ASSESS. WELL THAT'S TOO BAD FOR YOU. WE HAVE TO ASSESS YOU LIKE THAT. DOESN'T FEEL GOOD TO ME AND I'D LIKE US TO THINK ABOUT THAT BUT MORE OR LESS TO GET THAT STARTED I'D LIKE TO AT LEAST UNDERSTAND WHAT THE POLICY'S ABOUT, WHERE IT CAME FROM AND WHY YOU DO IT IN THOSE CIRCUMSTANCES. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COUNCILMEMBER, I BELIEVE WHAT YOU'RE REFERRING TO IS MAYBE THE COLFAX AVENUE WEST WASHINGTON FREEWAY A SEGMENT OF THIS YEAR'S PROJECT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE ABSOLUTELY KNOW THAT THERE ARE OTHERS THE CITY. EXACTLY. SO AGAIN THE BASIS FOR OUR SPECIAL ASSESSMENTS ARE IS THAT ADJUSTED FRONT FOOTAGE AND THAT'S WHERE IT COMES INTO PLAY RIGHT. SO THE ADJUSTED FRONT FOOTAGE IS A FUNCTION OF THE AREA OF THE LOT AND THEN IF THE AREA OF THE LOT IS SUCH THAT A SECOND FRONTAGE CAN BE CALCULATED, IT WILL BE FOR THE PURPOSES OF THE SEGMENTS ON THIS YEAR ON CALL BETWEEN COLFAX AND WEST POINT AND FREEWAY THERE ARE TWO PROPERTIES AT THE VERY NORTH END JUST SOUTH 100TH THAT ACTUALLY EXCEED OUR ARE LARGE ENOUGH AN AREA THAT THEY HAVE A SECOND FRONTAGE SO THEY HAVE AN AFFO ONE AND AFFO TWO. OUR POLICY SAYS THAT WHEN WE ASSESS WE USE AFFO THE NEXT TIME WE WOULD COME THROUGH FOR AN INDUSTRIAL PROJECT WE USE AFFO TWO AND GO BACK AND FORTH BACK AND FORTH. THE REMAINING PROPERTIES ON THAT STRETCH ONLY HAVE ONE FRONTAGE BASED ON THEIR AREA SO THE LAST TIME ANY OF THOSE PROPERTIES WERE ASSESSED FOR A STREET IMPROVEMENT WAS IN 1970 I BELIEVE SO PER POLICY THEY ARE SUBJECT TO AN ASSESSMENT AGAIN WHEN A STREET THAT THEY FRONT IS THEY HAVE A FRONTAGE THAT'S SUBJECT TO AN ASSESSMENT COMES UP THEY'RE SUBJECT TO AN ASSESSMENT THAT STREET REGARDLESS OF WHAT SIDE OF THE STREET THEY ACCESS IF THEIR PROPERTY TOUCHES A FRONTAGE AND THEY HAVE AN AFFO THAT IS ASSET THAT'S ASSESSABLE THAT'S WHAT WE WOULD APPLY NOW IN THIS CASE WEST BURLINGTON FREEWAY IS THE SEGMENT BEING CONSIDERED THE SITE IF IN TEN YEARS LET'S SAY WE CAME BACK AND RECONSTRUCTED AVENUE ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OBVIOUSLY WEST POINT THE FREEWAY WOULD NOT BE AT THE END OF ITS USEFUL LIFE AFTER TEN YEARS I'D HOPE NOT BASED ON OUR POLICY RIGHT. SO AT THAT POINT THEN THE PROPERTIES THEY ONLY HAD ONE FRONTAGE WHICH IS THE MAJORITY OF THEM BESIDES THOSE TOP THOSE THOSE NORTHERN TWO THEY WOULD NOT BE SUBJECT TO AN ASSESSMENT FOR THE COLFAX AVENUE. SO THE NEXT TIME WEST WOUND TO THE FREEWAY CAME BY IF THAT WAS THE NEXT PROJECT. THEN AT THAT POINT THEY WOULD BE SUBJECT TO AN ASSESSMENT AGAIN SO TO YOUR QUESTION ABOUT BEING DOUBLE ASSESSED THEY'RE NOT BEING DOUBLE ASSESSED. THE ONLY ONES THAT ARE BEING DOUBLE ASSESSED ARE ONES THAT HAVE TWO FRONTAGES AND THE SECOND FRONTAGE FOR BOTH OF THOSE PROPERTIES THAT I'M REFERRING TO IS VERY SMALL BECAUSE IT'S ALMOST IT'S JUST BEYOND OUR THRESHOLD. SO THE SECOND ASSESSMENT WHEN THEY'RE IN THAT AFFO TWO AS I CALL IT, IT'S PRETTY IT'S A VERY LOW IT'S LIKE I THINK ONE WAS LIKE A AFFO OF TWO AND ONE IS AFFO. OKAY. SO SO WHAT YOU'RE IF I CAN SUM THAT UP THEN, WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS THE ASSESSMENT ON THE FRONTAGE DONE BUT BECAUSE THE PROJECT IS COMING UP BUT BUT THEY'RE WOULD NOT BE I MEAN HOW MUCH TIME WOULD HAVE TO GO BY BEFORE ASSESSMENT FOR COLFAX WOULD ALSO HIT THESE PROPERTIES RIGHT THAT THE POLICY IS AT THE END OF THE ROAD'S USEFUL LIFE SO IF YOU WERE ASSESSED FOR A ROAD AND LIKE I SAID TEN YEARS WEST BURLINGTON FREEWAY WOULD NOT BE THE END OF ITS LIFE. SO WE WOULD NOT LOOK AT THAT. WE WOULD NOT THEY WOULD NOT BE CONSIDERED FOR AN ASSESSMENT IF YOU GET CLOSE TO 40 OR 50 THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE TO HAVE A CONVERSATION MAKE THAT DECISION TYPICALLY IT'S PRETTY IT'S CUT AND DRY AS FAR AS YOU KNOW WE'VE BEEN THROUGH THERE IT'S BEEN 50 YEARS. THEY'RE SUBJECT TO AN ASSESSMENT AGAIN OR POTENTIAL ASSESSMENT IF IT WERE TO COME BACK IN 35 TO 40 TO 45 RANGE THEN WE'D PROBABLY HAVE HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH STAFF AND DETERMINE HOW WE WANT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. OKAY. AND IF I COULD YES, COUNCILMEMBER ALEXANDER AND THIS IS SIMILAR CORNER LIGHTS ,IS THAT CORRECT? THAT'S CORRECT. KNOW ON CORNERS IF YOU CAN EXPLAIN IT MUCH BETTER THAN I TO DO THAT. SO YEAH. THANK YOU MR. MAYOR. SO ON A CORNER LOT AS WELL EVEN IF YOU'RE IN FRONT TWO STREETS LET'S SAY YOU HAVE TO ACTUAL IF YOU WERE TO GO OUT THERE YOU HAVE TO FRONTAGES AGAIN IF IS ON IT'S A IT'S A FUNCTION OF THE AREA SO IF A CORNER LOT WHICH WE DO HAVE SOME THAT ARE IS THE AREA SUCH THAT IT DOESN'T CALCULATE TO A SECOND IF THEY WOULD ONLY HAVE ONE F IN THE ADJUSTED FOOTAGE WORLD WHEREAS THE ACTUAL FRONTAGE WOULD BE TWO. SO AGAIN IN THAT SAME SCENARIO IF THEY IF THE ONE STREET WAS RECONSTRUCTED THEY WERE ASSESSED IN TEN YEARS IF THE OPPOSITE STREET THAT THEY'RE FRONTING WAS RECONSTRUCTED IF THEY ONLY HAD ONE RF BASED ON THEIR AREA AND THEIR CALCULATION THEY WOULD NOT BE SUBJECT TO AN ASSESSMENT FOR THAT SECOND STREET THAT THAT SENSE TO ME AND I UNDERSTAND I'M ASSUMING THAT THOSE FRONT DOORS TO NORTHERN AREAS AREA ONES ARE KIND OF IN THAT BOAT AND THEY KIND OF ACT LIKE CORNER LOTS ESSENTIALLY WHICH MAKES SENSE IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE THIS IS A FREEWAY FRONTAGE ROAD. IT'S YOU KNOW, I WOULDN'T I DON'T THINK OF IT AS THE SAME AS NEIGHBORHOOD ROADS WHERE YOU HAVE YOU'RE PROBABLY TURNING RIGHT OR LEFT ON YOUR CORNER LOT AND ETC. ETC. THERE'S NO ACCESS BY THESE BUILDINGS TO ANY OF THAT ROAD IN FACT AND IT DOESN'T THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD IT ACTUALLY IS A BYPASS TO THEIR NEIGHBORHOOD AND SO IT'S LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. HAVING SAID THAT, IF WHAT YOU'RE SAYING IS BASED ON THAT THEY'RE STILL ONLY BEING ASSESSED FOR ONE ROAD, IT JUST HAPPENS TO BE IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE BECAUSE OF THE TIMING THAT IT'S THE BACK SIDE OF THE ROAD OR THAT THE BACK TO THE BACK ROAD THE ROAD ON THE BACK OF THEIR HOUSE. AND IF AND IF COLFAX COMES UP IN THE NEXT YEARS, THE LIKELIHOOD THAT THEY'LL BE ASSESSED FOR THAT IS VERY LOW BECAUSE IT'S FALLING INTO THAT CATEGORY. COULD I HAVE THAT RIGHT? THAT IS CORRECT. YES, THAT IS CORRECT. AND I WOULD I WOULD ADD ONE MORE THING IF THERE IS IF WE DO HAVE NON ACCESS EASEMENTS ACROSS SO IF THERE WAS SOMETHING IN PLACE THAT WOULD NOT ALLOW ACCESS ON THE WEST POINT AND FOR WHICH WE DO NOT HAVE IN PLACE CURRENTLY WE WOULD LOOK AT THAT DIFFERENTLY AS WELL. SO IF YOU HAVE NO ACCESS CANNOT ACCESS THAT THAT DOES COME INTO PLAY WHEN WE LOOK AT OUR ADJUSTED FRONT FOOTAGES. YEAH AND THAT AND THAT MIGHT BE WORTH TAKING A LOOK AT DOWN THE ROAD IN THIS PARTICULAR CIRCUMSTANCE IT'S ESSENTIALLY STORM DRAINAGE IT'S NOT IT'S NOT USED AND OR ACCESSED BY ANYONE AND IT DOESN'T HAVE LIKE A BICYCLE TRAIL. IT DOESN'T HAVE ANYTHING YOU KNOW, IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A SIDEWALK OR ANYTHING LIKE THAT SO MIGHT BE WORTH LOOKING AT THAT AS A FUTURE. THANK GREAT THANK YOU APPRECIATE HELP COUNSEL ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN I'LL ASK ONE LAST ONE HERE ABOUT THE THE CURB AND GUTTER PIECE AS WE MENTIONED YOU SINCE I'VE BEEN HERE WE'VE NEVER DONE IT WHERE WE HAVE NOT PUT THE CURB AND GUTTER KNOW I KNOW WE HAVE THAT OTHER OTHER OPTION AND SO I JUST WANT TO BE SURE THAT THERE ISN'T ANY OTHER CASE WHERE WE CAN THINK OF WHERE THIS COUNCIL HAS TO NOT PUT A CURB AND GUTTER. AND ONE OF THE ARGUMENTS FOR IT IS THIS OF YOU KNOW AND I'VE BEEN IN THESE AREAS MANY A TIMES, YOU KNOW, KIND OF THAT NATURAL FEEL AND TRYING TO KIND OF PRESERVE THAT, YOU KNOW, FOR THE AREA, YOU KNOW, OTHER THAN THIS THIS ALTERNATIVE OPTION THAT'S OUT THERE, HAS THERE BEEN ANYTHING DONE FROM THE CITY THAT YOU CAN REMEMBER OF WHERE WE WE DIDN'T PUT THAT UNDER MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN NO, NOT THAT I CAN REMEMBER TYPICALLY IF THE IF THE DECISION WAS NOT THAT THEY DIDN'T WANT AND DIDN'T WANT TO CURB AND GUTTER INSTALLED AND WE DIDN'T GO WITH A DIFFERENT OPTION OF CURB AND GUTTER THEN THAT SEGMENT JUST GOT PULLED FROM THAT AND THAT'S HAPPENED OF COURSE THAT'S AND GOTTEN PULLED FROM THE PROJECT BUT THE ONL ONES THAT I CAN REMEMBER ARE ONES WHERE WE JUST DID A DIFFERENT TYPE OF CURB GUTTER AND SOM OF THOSE MORE UNIQUE AREAS LIKE SOME OF THESE ARELD YS WHERE WE WITH MORE OF LIK A MULTIPLE CB AND GUER OR RIBBON CURB AND SO FOR THOSE ONES THAT THEY ENDED UP GETTINGULLED YEAH I IMAGIN AT POI THEY CAME BACK RHT THAT WEAD HAD TO THOSE AND ILWAYS YOU KNOW I LE TO CAUON FOLKS YOU KNOW FROM FROM DOING THA YOU KNOW WHE YOU PULL THE OUT AND YOU BRI IT BACK, TH ST I'M SURE INCREASED A I KNOW WE DON'TAVE ANXAMPLE HEREUT IT C BE QUITE SUBSTANTIA IN THIS ENVIRONMEN IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE PING FOR TSE MATERIALS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU G AN EXPLE IT'S OFFHE TOP OF YOUR HEADN TERMS OF OF SOMEINGHAT WHERE WE'VE DONEHAT WE'VE PULD IT OUT AND THEN H TO BRING ITACK BECAUSE YOUNOW, MEAN THAT'S WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE GOING TO BE. YOU D'T DO IT ANDHEN YOU WAIT TILL LATER ON TO PUT IT BACK IN THERE WE DID HAVE MAYOR COUNCILMBER WOMAN WE HAVE HAD ONE AND A FEW OF THEM INHE PAST BUT ONE OF THEM THAT COMES TO MIND WAS ON A STRETCH 10TH AVENUE WHERE THE SEGMENT THERE WAS STRONG OPPOSITION DOING THE WORK WHEN WE CAME THROUGH IT WAS PULLED FROM THE PROJECT AND ACTUALLY THE SOME OF THE NEIGHBORS IN THAT IN THAT AREA A FEW YEARS DOWN THE ROAD CAME BACK TO PUBLIC WORKS AND ASKED CAN WE PLEASE HAVE OUR OUR ROADWAY DONE AT THIS TIME JUST BECAUSE IT'S IT'S A NEED OF A NEED OF SOME WORK. AND WE'VE MENTIONED TO THE FOLKS THAT THEY DO BRING THIS UP AS WELL THAT WITH THE CONDITION THAT SOME OF THESE STREETS ARE GETTING INTO, IT'S NOT COST EFFECTIVE FOR US TO BE DOING A LOT OF MAINTENANCE WORK OTHER THAN MINIMAL MAINTENANCE TO THOSE ROADWAYS AT THIS POINT. SO IT'D BE THE TYPICAL POTHOLE PATCHING AND THINGS OF THAT SORT TO GET IT BY MOVING FORWARD. AND THEN WHEN WE'VE KNOWN THAT THERE'S BEEN STRONG OPPOSITION TO DOING A NEIGHBORHOOD, WE TYPICALLY WON'T COME BACK FOR A NUMBER OF JUST BECAUSE WE HAVE OTHER SEGMENTS THAT WE'RE GOING TO BE MOVING ONTO. SO ALSO ANYTHING ADDITIONAL I'LL JUST ASK ONE CLARIFYING POINT AND I APPRECIATE THAT THE SLIDE THAT YOU SHOWED WHERE I COMPARING CITIES AND THE PERCENTAGE THAT HOMEOWNERS AND THE FRONTAGE AND ON IN BLOOMINGTON IS AT 25% IT'S IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT WHERE THAT OTHER 75% COMES FROM THAT THE THE PROPERTY OWNER IS ASSESSED THE 25% AND THE 75% IS THEN SPREAD ACROSS THE REST OF THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. WE WE SAW THAT CHART AND IT RANGES EVERYWHERE FROM 25 UP TO 60 SOME 8% I THINK AND BLOOMINGTON I THINK AT THE 25% IS ON THE LOW END. I DIDN'T A WHOLE LOT THERE WERE LOWER THAN THAT AND NOW THAT EDINA IS TRANSITIONING WE DON'T HAVE WE CAN'T USE THEM AS THE EXAMPLE THEY WERE LITERALLY 100% WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS AND TO THE TO THE ASSESSED PROPERTY OWNERS. SO I THINK THAT'S JUST IMPORTANT TO POINT THAT THAT ADDITIONAL 75% IS SPREAD ACROSS THE REST OF THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. SO I CAN'T SAY ANYTHING ELSE. IF NOT LET'S OPEN UP THE COUNCIL OR LET'S OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING ON THIS. THANK YOU GENTLEMEN. STICK AROUND AND WE'RE GOING TO OPEN UP THE PUBLIC HEARING AN FOR 54.1 AND I KNOW THERE'S A LOT OF FOLKS HERE WHO ARE INTERESTED IN THIS. WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO IS TRY AND PUT A LITTLE STRUCTURE AROUND THIS AND. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU SAW IN THE PACKET WE HAVE THE DIFFERENT SEGMENTS STS BROKEN DOWN INTO 13 DIFFERENT STREETS AND WHAT I'M GOING TO DO IS CALLING THEM ONE BY ONE AND IF YOU'RE HERE TO TALK ABOUT THAT SPECIFIC SEGMENT IF YOU CAN JUST GIVE ME A RAISE OF THE HAND SO WE KNOW WE WANT TO PULL THAT ONE OUT AND WE'RE GOING TO WE'RE GOING TO HAVE AN OPEN PUBLIC HEARING ON THAT AND THEN WE WON'T THE THOSE SECTIONS THAT DON'T HAVE SOMEBODY HERE, WE JUST WILL WE'LL MOVE ON AND WE'LL PUT THEM INTO THE PACKAGE AND MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE. SO I WILL ASK HERE I'M GOING TO GO RIGHT THROUGH NUMBERS ONE THROUGH 13. WE'VE GOT PROJECT NUMBER ONE. THE STREET NAME IS OVERLOOK DRIVE FROM FRANCE AVENUE, THE EAST TERMINUS. IS THERE ANYONE HERE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK TO PROJECT ONE? ALL RIGHT. THANK YOU. PROJECT TWO IS PEN CIRCLE AND IT'S FROM PENN AVENUE TO THE EAST TERMINUS. ANYONE HERE WISHING TO SPEAK TO REFERENCE PROJECT NUMBER TWO. ALL RIGHT, PROJECT NUMBER THREE IS WEST 100TH STREET FROM FREMONT AVENUE TO, WEST BLOOMINGTON FREEWAY. ANYONE? VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. PROJECT FOUR EMERSON AVENUE WEST 100TH STREET TO THE NORTH TERMINUS VERY GOOD. NUMBER FIVE IS THE WEST BLOOMINGTON FREEWAY WEST 102ND STREET TO WEST 100TH STREET ITSELF. ALL RIGHT. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU FOR RAISING YOUR HAND. WE'LL GET BACK TO ITEM SIX HERE LYNDALE AVENUE FROM WEST 106TH STREET TO THE SOUTH TERMINUS. ALL RIGHT, PROJECT SEVEN OAKLAND AVENUE EAST 80 EAST 96TH STREET TO EAST 95TH STREET AND ONE ALL RIGHT, PROJECT EIGHT ORCHARD SPRINGS ROAD 16TH AVENUE TO THE EAST TERMINUS ANYONE? VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. PROJECT MEADOWVIEW ROAD FROM OLD CEDAR AVENUE TO EAST OLD SHAKOPEE ROAD PROJECT TEN WEST 84TH AND A HALF STREET FROM EMERSON TO DUPONT AVENUE PROJECT 11 WEST 84TH STREET FROM DUPONT AVENUE TO ALDRIDGE AVENUE PROJECT 12 DUPONT AVENUE WEST 84TH AND A HALF STREET TO WEST 82ND STREET AND PROJECT 13 COLFAX AVENUE WEST 84TH STREET TO WEST 82ND STREET. ALL RIGHT. SO FOR THE WE HAVE PEOPLE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK FOR PROJECT NUMBER FIVE AND PROJECT NUMBER EIGHT WHICH MEANS PROJECTS ONE THROUGH FOUR, SIX AND SEVEN AND THEN NINE THROUGH 13. LAST CALL FOR THAT. OTHERWISE WE'RE GOING TO ROLL THOSE INTO THE PACKAGE, TRY TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THOSE VERY GOOD. MR. MAYOR, I THOUGHT I SAW HANDS UP FOR NUMBER NINE. CAN YOU IT AGAIN? I APOLOGIZE. NUMBER NINE MAYBE I MISSED IT. MEADOWVIEW ROAD OLD AVENUE TO EAST OLD JACOBI ROAD THAT'S ON ME. SORRY. WE'RE GOOD. DID I MISS SOMEBODY? ARE WE GOOD? OKAY. ALL RIGHT, SO WE WILL. LET'S OPEN UP THIS. WE'LL START WITH NUMBER FIVE HERE WHICH IS WEST BLOOMINGTON FREEWAY WEST 102ND STREET TO WEST 100TH STREET. SO IF YOU'RE INTERESTED IN SPEAKING ON THIS, IF YOU COULD PLEASE COME UP AND IF YOU'RE ALSO INTERESTED IF YOU CAN KIND OF QUEUE UP IN BEHIND THE WAY THIS WORKS AND OUR PUBLIC HEARINGS OUR SHOT CLOCK IS UP ON THE WALL YOU'LL HAVE FIVE TOTAL MINUTES AND WE'RE GOING TO STICK TO THAT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY GETS THE SAME TOTAL AMOUNT OF TIME. AND IF YOU COULD BEGIN BY IDENTIFYING YOURSELF AND THEN AS YOU'RE DONE THE THE SHEET WITH THE ON CLIPBOARD THERE IF YOU COULD JUST SIGN IN SO WE HAVE YOU OFFICIALLY YOU CAN DO THAT WHEN YOU'RE DONE YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT WHILE YOU'RE OR YOU'RE STANDING THERE GETTING READY TO SPEAK. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME. THANK YOU. AND IF YOU COULD SPEAK INTO THE MICROPHONE TOO SO WE MAKE SURE REGISTER. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS LARRY KING AND I LIVE AT 10107 COLFAX AVENUE SOUTH. I'M ONE OF THE PEOPLE RECEIVED THE ASSESSMENT LETTER FROM THE CITY AND NOW THAT I'VE HEARD WHAT THE COUNCILPERSON HAD TO SAY ABOUT IT AND THE FACT THAT WE'RE BACK IN A YEAR TO RE ADDRESS THIS ISSUE OF THE ESTIMATES I'M GOING TO BE VERY BRIEF YOU HIT THE NAIL THE HEAD. OUR PROPERTY FACE IS COLFAX WE LIVE COLFAX THAT'S OUR MAILING ADDRESS AND EVERYTHING COMES IN FROM THERE THE SEWER WATER SO FORTH AND BEHIND US OUR PROPERTY BACKS UP TO THE DITCH FOR THE SERVICE ROAD AND IT IS A DITCH A LOT OF RUNOFF AND IT'S NOTHING ELSE BUT WHAT'S UNIQUE ABOUT THE ROAD IF SOME OF YOU I ASSUME HAVE DRIVEN THAT ROAD MANY OF YOU MAY NOT HAVE EVER BEEN ON THAT ROAD BUT IT'S REALLY THREE DIFFERENT SECTIONS. IT'S IT'S THE FIRST SECTION IS 96 198/100 AND THAT'S LIFETIME FITNESS MINNESOTA I IN THE ACCESS ROAD FOR THE CARPOOL LANE SOUTH 35 W AND IT'S BASICALLY IT'S COMMERCIAL THERE'S NO HOMES THERE IT'S HEAVILY USED THEN AT 100TH 202ND THERE IS NOTHING IT'S ESSENTIALLY FROM MY PERSPECTIVE IT'S A TWO LANE ALLEY OR PRIVATE THAT NOBODY CAN USE EXCEPT THE PEOPLE BASICALLY SOUTH OF US PEOPLE LIVE IN DEVIN CHAIR IN THE TOWNHOMES SOUTH OF THEM NOW THAT THE CUL DE SAC IN AT 106 THAT'S JUST THE WAY EVERYBODY GOES A FOR U THERE JT PURPOSE TOT AT ALL. WEAN'T IT WE CAN'T GET TO OUR HOMES FROM IT. WE CAN'T DRIVE THERE. WE DON'T CERTAINLY SEND OUR KIDS OUT TO PLAY ON THE SERVICE ROAD. THEY GO OUT ON COLFAX AND RIDE BIKES AND SO FORTH. SO YOU KNOW EVEN THE CORNER FACE COLFAX SO FOR US TO BE TAXED LIKE YOU SAY ESSENTIALLY TWICE WE'RE PAYING OUR TAX FOR THE FRONT WHICH WE UNDERSTAND BUT TO BE TAXED AGAIN FROM THE BACKSIDE FOR A ROAD WE LITERALLY DON'T USE, WE DON'T DRIVE ON IT. WE CAN'T ACCESS FOR ANY REASON REALLY. I MEAN I COULD PURPOSELY DRIVE AROUND TO GO TO MY HOME BUT THAT WOULD BE IT. SO THERE'S REALLY TO BE TAXED IS KIND OF A SLAP IN THE FACE IF YOU'RE GOING TO DO CURB WORK AND, PUT NEW LIGHTS IN ON COLFAX, WE'RE ON THE HOOK. COME AND SEE AND WE'LL PAY OUR TAX FOR THAT. THAT'S AN IMPROVEMENT TO OUR PROPERTY BASICALLY. ANYTHING YOU DO TO THE SERVICE ROAD YOU COMPARE PAVED WITH GOLD AND NOT GOING TO DO ANYTHING FOR OUR PROPERTY AND COLFAX IS ESSENTIALLY IT'S A SERVICE ROAD FOR THE FOLKS THAT WORK SOUTH OF THERE AND. ALL OF THOSE FOLKS LIVE ON IT. WE DON'T LIVE ON THAT SERVICE ROAD. THEY DO THEIR DRIVEWAYS, THEIR PARKING LOTS. THEY CAN COME AND GO FROM THERE AND THEY NEED THAT ACCESS. WE DON'T SO I'M HARD PRESSED AND THERE'S EIGHT OF MY NEIGHBORS HERE WHO ARE HOMEOWNERS ON COLFAX WHO FEEL THE SAME WAY. THIS IS A VERY UNFAIR WAY TO TAX FOR SOMETHING WE LITERALLY DON'T USE AND SO THAT'S WHY I'M HERE. BUT NOW THEY HAVE A BETTER UNDERSTANDING AND LISTENED TO EVERYBODY FURIOUS. WE HAVE TO COME BACK IN A YEAR AND THIS AGAIN BECAUSE IT'S AN ESTIMATE WHAT WE LOOKED AT IS AN ESTIMATE FROM YOU NOW THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT AGAIN NEXT FALL. SO NOT SURE WHERE THIS IS GOING TO GO IF YOU'RE GOING TO VOTE ON THIS TONIGHT OR MAKE A DECISION, I'M NOT REALLY SURE WHAT WE WILL DO. WHAT WE'RE CONSIDERING TONIGHT IS TO APPROVE THE FEASIBILITY STUDY AND TO ORDER THE STREET RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT. SO BASICALLY PUT THE PROCESS IN MOTION AND AND COMING BACK IN A YEAR I'M I'M UNCLEAR AS TO EXACTLY THAT THOUGHT I MEAN IN A YEAR AS THE CYCLE GOES MR. HANSON YEAH. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. I BELIEVE WHAT THE RESIDENT IS SPEAKING TO IS THIS THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT HEARING FOR YEAH. FOR THE ACTUAL LEVYING OF THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT WE IT BACK IF THE PROJECT'S ORDERED A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT IS CONSIDERED TO BACK BEFORE IT IS DONE. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. AND JUST ANOTHER NOTE TO THE SIDE THE 30 YEAR THING REALLY I MEAN I'LL BE OUT ON MEMORIAL PARK BEFORE 30 YEARS COMES AND GOES SERIOUSLY, I'M NOT WAITING FOR YOU TO REPAVE IT AGAIN AND LOOK TO CASH ON THAT. SO I THINK WE HAVE TO LIVE IN THE HERE AND NOW IN THE CURRENT YEARS THIS AND THE REALITY IS YOU KNOW WHILE WE LIVE HERE IN ALL THOSE HOMES WE DON'T USE A ROAD THAT YOU'D LIKE US TO PAY FOR ESSENTIALLY A PRIVATE DRIVEWAY AS WE VIEW IT. BUT I'M SORRY THAT'S OUR POSITION. SO I THINK THERE'S EIGHT OTHER HOMEOWNERS HERE. I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WANT TO SPEAK TO BUT I THINK WE KIND OF I BROUGHT THIS UP WITH THEM AND GOT A CONSENSUS OF WHAT OUR THOUGHTS AND FEELINGS ARE ON IT AND I DON'T KNOW IF THEY WANT TO SPEAK OR NOT BUT I THINK WE'VE KIND OF HIT WHAT WE WANT TO TALK ABOUT. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU, MR. KING, IF YOU COULD REMIND YOU TO SIGN IN THERE, I WILL ASK ARE THERE NEIGHBORS ARE YOU IN AGREEMENT WITH MR. KING WITH WHAT HE SAID ANYTHING AND I'M OKAY. VERY GOOD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. IS THERE ANYONE ELSE WHO WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON THIS? YEAH, PLEASE. JUST ON THE YEAH. MY NAME'S ROBERT HANSON. I LIVE ON ISLAND COLFAX ON THE NORTH NORTHERN PART OF COLFAX AND MY CONCERNS ARE QUESTION WOULD BE AS I BELIEVE IT WAS GOING BACK SEVEN OR EIGHT YEARS AGO THEY WERE THINKING PUTTING A LIGHT RAIL THROUGH 35 W WHICH EXPANSION AND AT ONE POINT THEY WERE TALKING ABOUT TAKING WHOLE FRINGE ROAD OUT IF THEY WOULD DO THAT AND WE HAVE A TEN YEAR ASSESSMENT OR PAYMENT THEY TAKE THAT OUT. DOES THAT WHAT DOES THAT DO? ARE WE STILL PAYING TAXES ON THAT'S NOT THERE ANYMORE. YEAH IF I, I DO I DO FOLLOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING AND IF I'M IF THEY COME THROUGH WITH THE LIGHT RAIL AND THEY HAVE TO TAKE OUT THAT STRIP OF ROAD NOW RESIDENTS ARE PAYING FOR A ROAD TAX A ROAD IMPROVEMENT TAX THAT IS NO LONGER THERE. I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING. I HAVE NOT HEARD A DISCUSSION OF RAIL ON 35 W IN A LONG TIME AND LEAST A DECADE. I THINK THEY'VE I THINK THAT SHIP HAS SAILED TO BE HONEST THINK THEY'RE FOCUSING ON BUS RAPID TRANSIT IN FOUR THE 35 W CORRIDOR RIGHT NOW AND I DON'T THINK THAT LIGHT RAIL IS AT WHOSE ARE REPRESENTATIVE OF THE 35 W CORRIDOR INLAND AND YEAH NO I HAVE NOT HEARD THAT AND I WAS JUST SHAKING HEAD SAY HEY NO I HAVE NOT HEARD THAT I DON'T BELIEVE THAT'S UNDER CONSIDERATION THIS POINT. ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT BUT BUT GOOD POINT. I APPRECIATE YOUR YOUR POINT MAYOR IF I IF I MIGHT JUST ADD SLIGHTLY NORTH OF THERE NOT TOO FAR WE JUST GOT PROPERTY BACK IT'S TRUE YES THAT'S FROM RIGHT AWAY ACQUISITION THAT THAT REDEVELOPING TO ADD HOUSING AND SO YEP YEP YEP THAT IS TRUE AS WELL. ANYONE ELSE WISHING TO SPEAK ON PROJECT NUMBER VERY GOOD. WE WILL MOVE ON TO PROJECT NUMBER EIGHT THE ORCHARD SPRINGS ROAD 16TH AVENUE TO THE EAST TERMINUS. SAME DEAL WITH YOU FOLKS IF SOMEBODY WOULD TO COME FORWARD AGAIN AND AGAIN DON'T DON'T FORGET TO SIGN IN AFTER YOU'RE DONE SPEAKING AND PLEASE IDENTIFY YOURSELF FOR THE RECORD. YEAH ALAN DOWN SKI 1636 ORCHARD SPRINGS ROAD I'VE LIVED IN BLOOMINGTON FOR 57 YEARS AND ON ORCHARD SPRINGS ROAD FOR 36 YEARS I'M STRONGLY OPPOSED TO THE THE PROPOSED CURB AND GUTTER ON OUR STREET. THIS HAS BEEN MENTIONED HERE THROUGHOUT DISCUSSION HERE FOR THIS MEETING BUT I'M JUST GOING TO GO AHEAD AND READ WHAT I'VE GOTERE. THIS IS UNIQUE AREA TO BLOOMINGTON WITH A COUNTRY FE AND WE'D LIKE TO PRESERVE OUR STRT PROVIDES ACCS TO ONLY 11 HSES AND IT'S A DE END STREET T STREET IS JUST OVER 800EET LONG THE ARE STILL IN BLOOMITON WITH DRIVEWAYS A LONG AS O STREET IFOT LONGE THEN OVER 50% OF THEOMES ARECCESSED IN THE FIRST HALF OF THE STREET A THE LAST THREE HOMES ARE ACCESSED WITHIN THE LAST ONE THIRD OF THE STREET. MY POINT HERE IS THAT IT GETS MINIMAL TRAFFIC AND OUR STREET AND WE CAN'T JUSTIFY THE COST OF THE CURB AND GUTTER ON OUR LONG CURRENTLY THE ROAD WAS CONSTRUCTED IN 1982 AS A THREE TON ROAD IT'S BEEN PROPOSED TO RECONSTRUCT AS A SEVEN TON ROAD WITH CURB AND GUTTER. IT'S LASTED US 41 YEARS WITH THE INCONSISTENT MAINTENANCE SCHEDULE ONLY ONCE HAS IT BEEN SEALED COATED ON THE EVERY SEVEN YEAR BASIS PER THE PAPER AND OTHER TIMES IT'S BEEN TO TEN YEARS BETWEEN THE SEAL COATING MANY YEARS HAVE NOT BEEN PROVIDED WITH THE SPRING PATCHING ON THE POTHOLES AND MOST OF THE DETERIORATION IS WITHIN THE INTERIOR OF THE STREET AND NOT THE PERIMETER SO THEREFORE THE CURB AND GUTTER WOULD NOT HAVE REALLY US ANY BENEFIT TO DATE FOR THE LONGER LONGEVITY PUMP STATES THAT OUR RECONSTRUCT WOULD OCCUR IN 20 YEARS WITHOUT THE ROUTINE MAINTENANCE AND WE ARE GOING ON ABOUT 41 YEARS. MY POINT HERE IS THAT WE HAVE NOT BEEN GETTING TAX DOLLARS WORTH TO MAINTAIN OUR STREET AND NOW GOING TO BE HIT WITH THESE BIG ASSESSMENTS. IT'S BEING PROPOSED AN ALL OR NOTHING WITH A FULL RECONSTRUCT AGAIN WITH CURB AND GUTTER NOT ALWAYS OUR CITY POLICIES AND STANDARDS APPROPRIATE FOR ALL THE STREETS. WHY THE BLANKET POLICY OF ONE SIZE FITS ALL? WE WOULD LIKE TO SUGGEST THAT THE STREET WARRANTS AN OPTION FOR THE MIDLAND OVERLAY WITHOUT CURB AND GUTTER. I KNOW BOB AND BRIAN TOLD US LAST WEEK THAT THAT'S NOT REALLY AN OPTION BUT THERE AGAIN WHY BLANKET POLICY PERFORM CORE SAMPLES TO TEST AND SEE WHAT THE COMPOSITION OF THE SUB GRADE SUB BASE AND ASPHALT IS. IT JUST MAY BE SUITABLE FOR A SEVEN TON ROAD WITH THE APPROPRIATE ASPHALT THICKNESS POSSIBLY MINIMAL SUB GRADE AND SOME BASE SUB BASED CORRECTIONS. THERE ARE THOUSANDS OF MILES OF ROADS METAL SHOULDER THAT ARE PAVED AND DO NOT HAVE CURB AND GUTTER AND THEY HAVE HEAVY TRAFFIC ON THEM DAILY AND THEY LAST MANY MANY YEARS. WE WANT TO TAKE THE RIGHT ACTION AT THE RIGHT TIME AND OUR LONG DRIVEWAY WILL BE JUST FINE WITHOUT THE CURB AND GUTTER. I APPRECIATE YOU LISTENING TO OUR CONCERNS. THANK. ANYONE ELSE WISH TO SPEAK TO AN INMATE HERE OR PROJECT EIGHT? MY CONCERN IS SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT. I'M ELLEN AARONSON AND I LIVE AT THE EAST TERMINUS OF ORCHARD SPRINGS. I CARE FOR MY 93 YEAR OLD MOTHER AND I HOPE YOU CAN FIND IT IN YOUR HEART TO TAKE NO ACTION ON RECONSTRUCTION PLANS FOR ORCHARD SPRINGS ROAD AT THIS TIME PLEASE DON'T REMOVE US FROM THE PMP PLAN WE WANT. WE DON'T WANT TO BE FORCED OUT OF THE PROGRAM. BUT I'M SORRY IF YOU COULD JUST SIMPLY DEFER ACTION FOR ONE YEAR. JUST I'M ASKING FOR ONE YEAR. CONSTRUCTION AT THIS TIME WILL BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE END STAGES OF MY MOTHER'S LIFE. I ASK THAT YOU ALLOW TIME A PEACEFUL ENDING. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. OTHERS PLEASE. YOU CAN COME UP AND YOU CAN USE YOU CAN USE THE LEFT MICROPHONE IF YOU COULD. MY NAME IS ROGER JOHNSON. I LIVE AT 16 AND ONE ORCHARD SPRINGS ROAD. I'M A RELATIVE NEWCOMER FROM NEW ENGLAND HERE. I'M NOT GOING TO REPEAT THE CONSENSUS AMONG THE NEIGHBORS IS THAT WE WOULD NOT LIKE CURVING GUTTER AND WE LIKE TO GO WITH OPTION SO I WON'T BORE EVERYTHING THAT L WENT WE WE'VE PRETTY MUCH COMMUNICATED AS NEIGHBORS ABOUT THIS. I WANTED TO ADD THAT I CAME INTO THE NEIGHBORHOOD THROUGH THE TROLLING AREA AS A LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER HAD THE COUNTY DOING HOUSE ARREST FOR PROBATION AND WHEN I MOVED INTO THE AREA I IT WAS A COLLECTIVE YOU KNOW CHARISMATIC, UNIQUE SEMI-RURAL AREA AND I FELT FORTUNATE TO BE ABLE TO BUY A HOME IN THAT AREA AND NOW THE PROPOSAL SEEMS LIKE IT WOULD DIMINISH THE ESTHETICS TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD. SO I UNDERSTAND A LOT OF THE TECHNICAL ISSUES THAT OUR BROUGHT UP ALL UNDERSTAND THOSE ISSUES. BUT I DID WANT TO SAY THAT DON'T WANT TO LOSE THIS THAT IS TO THAT. SO THANK YOU FOR LISTENING. THAT'S WHY I WOULD KIND OF DECLINE THE PROPOSAL IF POSSIBLE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU. JOHNSON. OTHERS JUST GOOD EVENING. WELCOME. GOOD EVENING, MAYOR. COUNCIL MEMBERS THANK YOU. MY NAME IS TIM O'KEEFE. I'M 1621 ORCHARD SPRINGS ROAD AND I AM ALSO NOT GOING TO REHASH A LOT OF THE ISSUES THAT THAT AND ROGER, WE'RE ALL PRETTY MUCH ALIGNED. I'M A LONGTIME OF BLOOMINGTON ALONG WITH MY WIFE AND FAMILY . WE MOVED TO BLOOMINGTON IN 87 SPECIFICALLY ON ORCHARD ROAD IN 97 AND LIKE THE OTHERS HAVE SAID, IT'S THE CHARM, IT'S UNIQUENESS OF THAT ROAD. IT'S NOT JUST A ROAD, IT'S A COMMUNITY AND I'VE GOT SOME NEIGHBORS AND WHEN WE MOVED IN IT WAS A 28 FOOT WIDE ROAD NO CURBS. IT'S LIKE THAT TODAY. IT'S THE SAME ROAD TODAY AS IT WAS WHEN I MOVED IN . IT'S HELD UP PRETTY WELL AS AS I HAD POINTED OUT AND IT HAS HAD MINIMAL MAINTENANCE. I DON'T KNOW IF IF YOU ALL KNOW BUT WHEN THE SNOWPLOW DOES COME BY IT'S USUALLY A PICKUP TRUCK THAT COMES AND DOES OUR ROAD. SO I MEAN IT GETS VERY LITTLE TRAVEL. IT'S IT'S THE NEIGHBORS IT'S THEIR VISITORS. IT'S THE MAIL CARRIERS, THE PACKAGE DELIVERY FOLKS AND SOMEONE WHO MAY BE LOST AND WE DON'T GET A LOT OF TRAFFIC BUT AS OTHERS HAVE STATED I'M FINE WITH HAVING THE ROAD IMPROVED BUT OPPOSED TO THE CURB AND GUTTERS BECAUSE I REALLY REALLY TAKES AWAY FROM THE ESTHETICS AND JUST THE SPECIAL CHARACTER OF THAT ROAD AND THAT'S ALL I HAVE. THANK YOU. THANK YOU MR. O'KEEFE . GOOD EVENING. WELCOME. THANK YOU. MY NAME IS ELIZABETH STRAND. MY PARENT'S HOME IS THE 1800 ORCHARD SPRINGS ROAD. THEY'RE ON THE DEAD END OF OUR ORCHARD SPRINGS ROAD. I GREW UP THERE. IT IS A VERY UNIQUE PLACE AND LIKE OUR NEIGHBORS HAVE SAID IT WOULD RUIN WHAT IS THERE NOW IT IS VERY LITTLE TRAVELED AND LIKE THEY SAID UNLESS ARE LOST YOU'RE NOT ON OUR ROAD. WE WOULD LIKE TO KEEP THE MAINTENANCE AND THIS ALL OR NOTHING. EITHER YOU GET THE CURVING GUTTER OR WE'RE NOT GOING TO SEE YOU FOR TEN YEARS I THINK IS UNFAIR LIKE ONE OF OUR NEIGHBORS SAID AS WELL. I HOPE WE CAN CONSIDER REPAVING AND RESURFACING AS AN OPTION IF IT IS A CONSENSUS WITH ALL THE NEIGHBORS AND THAT'S I HAVE TO SAY THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. YOU SAID I THINK I SAW SOMEBODY ELSE. MM YES THEN PLEASE COME ON UP . GOOD EVENING. GOOD EVENING. I AM LAUREEN BOWDEN SKI. I LIVE AT 1636 ORCHARD SPRINGS ROAD I HAVE LIVED ON ORCHARD SPRINGS ROAD 36 OF THE 51 YEARS I'VE BEEN IN BLOOMINGTON AND I TOO AM OPPOSED TO THE OF CURB AND GUTTER ON OUR STET. ONE THING I DON'T QUITE UNDERSTAND AT THE MEETING LAST MONDAY IT SEEMS CITY IS PROMOTING CURB AND GUTTER IS SUCH A GREAT BENEFIT TO US HOMEOWNERS AND THAT IT WILL INCREASE OUR PROPERTY VALUES WELL AS WE ALL KNOW INCREASED PROPERTY VALUES MEANS INCREASED PROPERTY TAXES. SO BETWEEN THAT AND THE HUGE ASSESSMENTS WE'RE BEING HIT WITH I DON'T SEE HOW THAT IS A BENEFIT. IT'S DOUBLE DIPPING IF WE END UP HAVING OUR TAXES RAISED AND HAVING TO PAY THESE HUGE ASSESSMENTS. REALTORS I SPOKE WITH SAID HAVING CURB OR NOT IS NOT TAKEN INTO CONSIDERATION WHEN DOING COMPS IN AN AREA SELLING A HOME AND HAS NO BEARING ON THE VALUE OF THE PROPERTY. SO CURB HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH CURB APPEAL IN MY MIND. THEY ALSO SAID LACK OF CURB IS AN ATTRACTION AN AREA AS IT GIVES A MORE NATURAL QUAINT VIBE TO A NEIGHBORHOOD AS MY OTHER NEIGHBORS HAVE KIND OF SAID ALSO AND ISN'T BLOOMINGTON TRYING TO BE MORE NATURE ORIENTED? WE WERE ALSO TOLD AT THE MEETING THE CITY CAN'T RECONSTRUCT ROAD WITHOUT CURB AND GUTTER. IS IT TRULY THAT THEY CAN'T DO IT OR WON'T? I WOULD CERTAINLY THINK EXCEPTIONS COULD BE MADE BASED ON EACH INDIVIDUAL NEIGHBORHOOD'S UNIQUE SITUATIONS. I'M ASKING THAT THE ROAD BE UPDATED WITHOUT CURB AND IN ORDER TO MAINTAIN THE SOUGHT AFTER COUNTRY WITHIN THE CITY ESTHETIC THAT ORCHARD SPRINGS ROAD PROVIDES. I APPRECIATE YOUR TIME SPENT LISTENING AND HOPE OUR ARE TAKEN INTO SERIOUS CONSIDERATION. THANK YOU. THANK YOU FOR YOUR COMMENTS. I'M SORRY BUT WE NEED YOU TO SIGN IN . THANKS FOR HELPING WITH REMINDER ANYONE ELSE ? MR. SABLE, IS THERE ANYONE ON THE PHONE WHO WISHES TO SPEAK ? MR. MAYOR, THERE'S ONE ELSE ON THE LINE. THANK YOU. LAST CALL FOR ANYBODY IN THE CHAMBERS CAUSE WE'VE GOT NO ONE ON THE PHONE. WE'VE GOT NO ONE ON THE CHAMBER'S COMING FORWARD. I WOULD LOOK FOR A TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.1 THIS EVENING. SOME SAY A MOTION BY COUNCILMEMBER AND SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER TO CLOSE THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 4.1. NO FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING HEY I OPPOSED THE MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO CLOSING THE PUBLIC HEARING ON ITEM 6.1. A COUPLE OF QUESTIONS I THINK THAT WERE BROUGHT UP IN IF MR. SYMES MR. HANDS WILL COME FORWARD. THERE WAS ABOUT UH ACTUALLY SOME CLARIFICATIONS I HEARD THAT THERE WAS DETERIORATION FROM THE INSIDE OUT AND THE THE NOTION BEING THAT PERHAPS THE CURB AND GUTTER WASN'T NECESSARY BECAUSE THERE WAS NO DETERIORATION ON THE SIDE. IS THE DETERIORATION IN THE MIDDLE THE RESULT OF NOT HAVING BASICALLY THE OR THE BOOKENDS TO HOLD THE THE ROAD IN PLACE OR AM I MISINTERPRETING THAT? MAYOR THAT THAT COULD BE THE CASE THAT THERE IS ON ORCHARD SPRINGS ROAD THERE IS DETERIORATION ON THE EDGES OF THE ROADWAY AS WELL. THE DETERIORATION IN THE MIDDLE OF THE ROADWAY COULD BE FROM EXISTING BASE CONDITIONS AND THE ROADWAY SOILS IN THE AREA THAT WOULD NEED TO BE CORRECTED IF WE CAME THROUGH AND DID A STREET RECONSTRUCTION. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? IT DOES. I THINK THERE WAS ALSO THE SUGGESTION TO DO TESTING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT THE SUBSTRATE WAS AND TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S UNDERNEATH THERE AND IF IT WAS POSSIBLE. HAS A TESTING BEEN DONE? DO YOU KNOW WHAT'S DOWN THERE? DO YOU KNOW WHAT THE THE CAPACITY OF THAT ROAD IS OR SHOULD BE? UH MAYOR AND COUNSEL FOR THE COMMENT WAS MADE ABOUT THE THREE TON ROADWAY WHEN IT WAS INITIALLY INSTALLED MAJORITY OF OUR OUR LOCAL RESIDENTIAL ROADWAYS LOWER VOLUME ROADWAYS WERE BUILT TO A THREE TON STANDARD. TYPICALLY WHEN WE COME IN AND DO THESE RECONSTRUCTION PROJECTS OR PUMP PROJECTS, WE'LL TAKE BORINGS OF THE EXISTING ASPHALT THICKNESS AS WELL AS THE MATERIAL MAYBE SIX INCHES OR SO OF THE MATERIAL UNDERNEATH SO WE CAN GET AN IDEA OF WHAT WE'RE WORKING WITH. BUT WITH THAT SAID THE MAJORITY OF THESE SEGMENTS WERE BUILT TO A THREE TON STANDARD SOME OF THEM ON BETTER SOILS AND OTHER SO THEY HAVE AN EXTENDED LIFE LIKE ORCHARD SPRINGS ROAD FOR EXAMPLE EXTEND EXTENDED LIFESPAN FROM OTHERS WHEN WE COME THROUGH WITH A STREET RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT. IT'S AS IT WAS MENTIONED IT'S RECONSTRUCTED TO A SEVEN TON STANDARD TO WITHHOLD THE GARBAGE TRUCKS AND THE OTHER MAINTENANCE EQUIPMENT THAT COMES INTO THE AREA LIKE THE FOLKS SAID, IT'S MINIMAL IT'S MINIMAL EQUIPMENT THAT COMES INTO THE AREA BUT THE STANDARD THAT IT'S BUILT TO IS SEVEN TONS SO THAT WE CAN BUILD IT FOR THE FUTURE. MAYBE A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION THAN YOU WERE LOOKING FOR. NO, I APPRECIATE THAT. THAT'S GOOD. THERE'S QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS NOTION OF A ONE SIZE FITS ALL TYPE OF POLICY IN PLACE. CAN YOU EXPLAIN AGAIN MAYBE HELP THE COUNCIL UNDERSTAND A LITTLE BIT BETTER WHY THAN WHY THIS IDEA OF IF THERE IS WORK DONE WE NEED TO PUT IN CURBING GUTTER IN AREAS THAT DON'T HAVE CURB AND GUTTER. MAYOR AND COUNCIL AS A FEW OF THE NOTES THAT I HAD MENTIONED EARLIER ON WHEN WE'RE WHEN WE'RE PUTTING THIS AMOUNT OF DOLLARS THIS AMOUNT OF TIME INTO MAINTAINING A ROADWAY WHETHER IT'S 2 MILLION OVER THE ROADWAY OR MILLING OVERLAY THEIR OWN WAY TO RECONSTRUCT THE ROADWAY AND WITH THE INSTALLATION OF THIS CURB AND GUTTER PROVIDES THAT BARRIER TO THE ROADWAY SO WE CAN KEEP THE WATER AND WHAT BASICALLY THE WATER FROM GETTING UNDERNEATH INTO OUR NEW BASE LAYER THAT WE'D BE INSTALLING AND DETERIORATING THAT ROADWAY FASTER. SOME AREAS LIKE ORCHARD SPRINGS MAYBE IT'LL TAKE LONGER THAN OTHERS FOR THAT TO OCCUR BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO OCCUR QUICKER THAN IF WE WOULD INSTALLING A CURB AND GUTTER ON THE EDGES OF THE ROADWAY. AND SO IF I MEAN YOU SAY IF WE DON'T WITHOUT CURB AND GUTTER BASICALLY IT'S THE INVESTMENTS THAT THE CITY WOULD MAKE DON'T HOLD AS LONG AS I WOULD. IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE SAYING THAT? THAT'S SO IT'S IT'S NOT AS IT'S NOT AS EFFECTIVE STEWARDSHIP OF PUBLIC DOLLARS IF WE WOULD DO SOMETHING LIKE THAT. SO. OKAY. ALL RIGHT. COUNSEL, DO WE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? I THINK I COVERED OH, AND THEN THE NOTION OF A DEFERRING ACTION FOR ONE YEAR, HAVE WE HAS THAT BEEN CONSIDERED IN THE PAST? YOU KNOW, MR. SIMONS OR MR. RUBY QUESTION BEING IF IF WE'VE DELAYED IT FOR ONE YEAR IN THE PAST I CAN'T I CAN'T RECALL AREAS THAT WE'VE SPECIFICALLY DELAYED FOR ONE YEAR. TYPICALLY IF IF THE IT'S AN IT'S AGREED UPON BY MOST OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD THAT THEY DON'T WANT WORK TO BE DONE AT THIS TIME TYPICALLY IT WOULD COME BACK A FEW YEARS DOWN THE ROAD. I CAN'T REMEMBER AN INSTANCE WHERE WE'VE COME BACK ONE YEAR MAYBE JULIE CAN BUT I BET JULIE CAN BECAUSE SHE'S JUST JUMPED RIGHT UP. MR. MAHER. COUNSEL I'M OLDER THAN BOB SO . I DO REMEMBER A LITTLE THINGS. WE HAVE DELAYED A COUPLE DIFFERENT ROAD SEGMENTS. THEY'VE BOTH BEEN TWO YEARS AND IT'S USUALLY WHEN HAVE A CHURCH OR A RELIGIOUS ORGANIZATION ON THE ROAD AND SO THEY WANT ADDITIONAL TIME TO ACQUIRE FUNDS TO PAY OFF THE ASSESSMENTS. SO WE HAVE DONE THAT IN THE PAST. THANK YOU. THANKS FOR THE PERSPECTIVE. I SAW A COUPLE OF HANDS GO UP ON COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON AND COUNCILMEMBER AND COUNCILMEMBER NELSON. WELL, NOT SURE THAT WAS A GOOD CHOICE BUT OKAY. THERE'S A COUPLE QUESTIONS TERMS OF THE THE ONE YEAR DELAY. I FORGET WHO REQUESTED THAT BUT I WASN'T SURE IF THAT WAS DUE TO THE CONSTRUCTION OR THE FINANCIAL ASPECT OF IT BECAUSE THE FINANCIAL ASPECT WOULDN'T OCCUR FOR A YEAR. IS THAT ACCURATE? WE WOULDN'T AESS THIS AND THEN IT WOULDN'T BE DUE UNTIL ? THAT'S CORRE. I THINK THE FIRST TIME IT WOULD B WOULD BEAY OF 25. WAS THAT RHT? CORRECT. YEAH. Y OF 25 I THE FIR TIME FINANCIALLYOULD COME FORWD. AY. BECAE I AM SYMPAETIC OBVIOUSLY AOTHER THAT'S IN ILL HEALTH I THINK WE A WOULD BE. ONE OF E QUESTIONS ABO THIS WAS WHY COULD IT NOT B AS A PRIVATE DRIVE AND YOU LOOK JT TO T SOUTH OF THAT THERE IS WHATPPEARS AT LEAST THE MAP TO BE A PRIVATE DRIVE. IT'S N LABELED AS A STREET. IS IS TRE AN OPTION TO ESSEIALLY JUST THE ROAD TO THE NEIBORHOOD AND HAVE THEM TA OVER MAINTENCE OF IT ANDDO WHAT THEY WANT WITH IT AND MAKE AND ESSENTIALLY TURN IT INTO A PVATE DRIVE JT AS IT IS TO THE NORTH OF THEM RE. COUNCILMEMBER I BELIEVE THERE WOUL BE THAT OPTION TO DO SO. IT WOULD COMPLETELY TURN THE OVER TO TWO OF THE NEIGHBORS IN THE AREA WHEN IT COMES TO ANY SORT OF MAINTENANCE PLOWING, SWEEPING ANYTHING OF THAT SORT. IT'S A PROCESS. I'M NOT AS IN-TUNE AS SOME OTHERS ARE IN THAT REGARD BUT WELL I MEAN ASSUME IT'S A PROCESS. I ASSUME IT'S ALSO A SIGNIFICANT EXPENSE. I MEAN CORRECT. IT'S LAND IT WOULD BE I MEAN I YOU KNOW, I DON'T MEAN TO SPECULATE BUT I ASSUME IT'S MORE THAN JUST GETTING A NEW ROAD, YOU KNOW, SO BUT I JUST WANTED TO SEE IF THAT WAS AN OPTION AND IF THEY WERE STILL HERE THEY WANTED TO PURSUE THAT OPTION. I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD BE SOMETHING TO LOOK INTO. ONE OF THE OTHER QUESTIONS THAT CAME UP WAS IN TERMS OF THE MAINTENANCE, THEY INDICATED THAT IN 40 YEARS IT HAD BEEN SEALED CODE AT ONE TIME. CAN YOU GIVE US A SENSE OF OF WHAT HAS BEEN DONE IN TERMS OF MAINTENANCE ON THAT ROAD AND IF IT HAS FROM OTHER PLACES IN THEIR NORMAL MAINTENANCE PROGRAM? WHY? MM HMM. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, THE THE THIS SEGMENT OF ARCHER SPRINGS IS ACTUALLY VERY SIMILAR TO OTHER SEGMENTS ON THE WITH IT WITHIN BLOOMINGTON THAT DON'T HAVE EXISTING CURB AND GUTTER AS PART OF THE PROGRAM AS THAT INDIVIDUAL MENTIONED THE PROPERTY OWNER MENTIONED WAS BUILT IN 1982. SINCE THEN IT WAS RECORDED IN 19 90, 97, 2007 AND 2016. TYPICALLY WE RECORD EVERY 8 TO 10 YEARS. SOMETIMES IT STRETCHES OUT A LITTLE BIT LONGER THAN THAT. THIS SEGMENT HAS BEEN SEALED COATED ABOUT EVERY 8 TO 10 YEARS SINCE IT'S SINCE ITS CONSTRUCTION. BEYOND THAT IT WOULD SEE IT'S IT'S TYPICAL POTHOLE PATCHING IN THE AREA MAYBE SOME CRACK SEALING BEFORE THE SEAL CODE . BUT THERE HAS BEEN SEAL CODES LIKE I SAID EVERY 8 TO 10 YEARS SINCE ITS CONSTRUCTION IN 82. OKAY. QUICK FOLLOW UP ON THAT. SO THEN WITH THE SEAL COATING WITH THE MAINTENANCE THAT WE HAVE DOING THIS ROAD HAS STILL DETERIORATED THAT IT NEEDS TO BE ESSENTIALLY REPLACED AT THIS POINT. AND THE REASON I BRING THAT UP IS BECAUSE RESIDENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY PAY 75% OF THAT. AND WHAT BE THE CASE THAT IF WE PUT THE CURB AND GUTTER IN IT WOULD LAST LONGER AND ALL RESIDENTS THROUGHOUT THE CITY WOULD REALIZE A SAVINGS OF DOING THE ROAD WITH CURB AND GUTTER WITH THE SEVEN TON ROAD WITH ALL OF THAT TYPE OF STUFF. IF THE PREVIOUS ROAD HAD NOT BEEN MAYBE UP TO WHAT IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN. MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBER NELSON THAT IS CORRECT. THE WITH THIS RECONSTRUCTION AS IT WAS SHOWN IT WOULD IT WOULD EXTENSIVELY THE LIFE OF THE PAVEMENT IN THE AREA NOT HAVING TO DO THOSE SEAL COURSES OFF AND THAT OTHER MAINTENANCE WORK AS OFTEN WITH THAT WITH THAT FULL STREET RECONSTRUCTION BEING DONE AS I MENTIONED THERE'S A A NUMBER OF OTHER ROADWAYS IN BLOOMINGTON THAT WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN AROUND TO WITH THE PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM THAT YOU KNOW THAT WERE BUILD BUILT WITH A THREE TON STANDARD OVER A THREE TON ROADWAY. WHEN WE COME THROUGH IT'S BUILT TO THAT 710 SO THAT WE'RE NOT HAVING TO COME BACK AS OFTEN AND SPEND AS MANY DOLLARS TO TO MAINTAIN THAT ROADWAY. THANK YOU. IF I MAY JUST ONE MORE QUESTION. GO AHEAD AND I'D LIKE TO SHIFT GEARS OVER TO THE COLD FACTS BECAUSE I UNDERSTAND BEFORE WE ACTUALLY GET TO THIS SEGMENT THERE IS A REVIEW OF A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT AND HOW MIGHT THAT PLAY OUT GIVEN THAT THIS ESSENTIALLY THE BACK YARD WOULD IT POTENTIALLY BE THAT THE SPECIAL ASSESSMENT REVIEW WOULD SAY OH THERE'S NO OR THE SPECIAL BENEFIT TEST THERE'S NO BENEFIT TO THIS BECAUSE IT'S NOT THERE FRONT RUNNER. AND I'D ALSO POINT OUT THAT THERE IS APPARENTLY ONE DRIVEWAY AT 10119 ACCORDING TO A MAP AND THE GOOGLE SO YES SORRY MR. A CUSTOMER RD THAT IS CORRECT AND THAT IS WHAT THAT SPECIAL BENEFIT ANALYSIS WOULD DO AND THAT'S WHY WE DO HAVE THAT THIRD PARTY INDEPENDENT PROPERTY EVALUATOR DO THAT WORK FOR US. SO WE'RE NOT MAKING THAT DECISION. WE'RE HAVING SOMEONE ELSE DO THE ANALYSIS THAT'S QUALIFIED IN THAT AND CERTIFIED AND CAN PROVIDE THAT DOCUMENTATION FOR US THAT WE MOVE FORWARD AND THEN SEND OUT THOSE FINAL ASSESSMENT THAT WE'RE CONFIDENT, COMFORTABLE AND CONFIDENT IN THE NUMBER THAT WE'RE PROVIDING. THE BENEFIT THEY'RE RECEIVING FROM THAT WORK IS REQUISITE OF THE ASSESSMENT THEY'RE BEING RECEIVED. SO IF THAT IF THAT CAME BACK AND DETERMINED THAT THERE WAS A YOU KNOW, THE BENEFIT WAS LESS BECAUSE OF THE CONDITIONS THAT YOU SPECIFIED THEN THAT'S WHAT THE ASSESSMENT SHOW. THE FINAL ASSESSMENT WOULD REFLECT THAT. OKAY, THAT SOUNDS GOOD. THANK MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS I REMEMBER NELSON JUST ON THAT POINT THAT COUNCILMEMBER NELSON MADE ABOUT THE ONE DRIVEWAY ONTO COLFAX. IF YOU GO INTO THE STREET VIEW YOU'LL SEE THERE'S NOT A CURB CUT FOR THAT CONCRETE AND THAT ENDS AT THE FENCE THAT IS THERE AND THAT DOESN'T APPEAR THAT THE FENCE OPENS FOR THE DRIVEWAY SO I HAVEN'T DRIVEN IT MYSELF. I DID THE SAME THING YOU DID. I LOOKED AT THE STREET VIEW SO I DON'T THINK IT'S AN ACTUAL FUNCTIONING DRIVEWAY CURRENTLY. YEAH YEAH YEAH. THE OTHER OC COUNCILMEMBER WOMAN THANK YOU MAYOR AND SOMEONE ELSE AND THANK YOU SOME OF MY QUESTIONS I HAD THERE BUT YEAH YOU'RE DOING WELL RIGHT? WELL WARNED ME SO SO LET'S JUST START WITH COLFAX WHERE YOU LEFT OFF. SO HAS THERE BEEN ANY HISTORY OF WHERE THE CITY HAS TAKEN A AREA JUST OUT AND JUST SAID YOU KNOW WHAT, WE'RE GOING TO HAVE HAVE A DEEPER LOOK AT THAT THAT COLFAX THING THAT'S SIMILAR TO I KNOW WE'VE DONE IT BEFORE WE'VE PULLED THE SECTION OUT FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD DIDN'T WANT TO DO THE ROADS AT ALL. BUT YOU KNOW, GIVEN WHAT WE'RE LOOKING AT THERE COLFAX THERE. IS THERE ANY PRECEDENT AT ALL IS ANY OTHER COUNCIL BEFORE JUST SAID HEY, YOU KNOW WHAT, THIS IS KIND OF STRANGE. I MEAN THAT IS VERY UNIQUE MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER WOMAN ARE YOU ARE YOU REFERRING TO TAKING IT OUT OF THE ASSESSMENT OR JUST TAKING IT OUT OF THE PROJECT AND YEAH, TAKE IT OUT OF THE PROJECT JUST COMPLETELY AND JUST SAYING HEY, YOU KNOW BECAUSE I THINK THE COUNCIL SO IT MAY HAVE A POINT HERE AND I DON'T KNOW IF HOW COMFORTABLE I FEEL GIVEN THE WAY THAT THAT IS ARRANGED AND SET UP. ALL RIGHT. IT JUST DOESN'T TO ME DOESN'T THE MUSTARD YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE TRYING TO DO HERE, I JUST I CAN'T THAT MAKE SENSE. SO I JUST WANT TO KNOW IF WE WENT DOWN THAT ROUTE AND WE PULLED THAT OUT. I KNOW THERE'S AN TO THAT AND I'M VERY RELUCTANT TO EVER WANT TO PULL ANYTHING, YOU KNOW, BECAUSE THAT THERE'S AN IMPACT TO THE REST OF THE TAXPAYERS IF WE GET TO DO THAT. BUT IS THERE ANYTHING SIMILAR TO THAT OR WE'VE DONE THAT BEFORE WE SAID HEY, WE'RE GONNA PULL THIS THING OUT AND YOU KNOW, JUST TAKE THIS OUT AND JUST WE'RE TO HAVE A DEEPER LOOK AT THAT AS LONG TERM. MR.. I HAVE A DIFFERENT EXAMPLE. MR. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN, I THOUGHT YOUR QUESTION WAS GOING A DIFFERENT DIRECTION SO NORTHWARD RIDGE OVER ON THE WEST SIDE OF TOWN ALSO HAS A BUNCH OF THREE LOTS AND WERE THEY WERE CONCERNED ABOUT ASSESSED AND IN OUR POLICY ALREADY IS CLAUSE THAT IF YOU HAVE A NON ACCESS EASEMENT YOU WOULD NOT BE ASSESSED FOR THAT THROUGH LOT PARCEL SO YOU'D ONLY BE ASSESSED ON THAT FRONT SIDE SO IF YOU WANTED TO DIRECT TO WORK WITH THE PROPERTY OWNERS ALONG COLFAX TO SET UP THAT EASEMENT THE NON ACCESS EASEMENT WE WOULD BE HAPPY TO DO THAT NOW THAT WOULD REQUIRE SOME WORK FROM THE OWNERS BECAUSE DEPENDING IF THEY HAVE MORTGAGE MORTGAGES THEY NEED MORTGAGE CONSENT AND SO BECAUSE IT IS A LEGAL DOCUMENT THAT IS FILED WITH HENNEPIN COUNTY IT'S NOT A SLAM DUNK EASY PROCESS BUT IT WOULD BE A WAY TO KEEP THE ROAD IN THE PROJECT AND PUT THE AFFO ONE ON COLFAX AND AFFO TWO WOULD BE ELIMINATED WITH THE EXCEPTION AS MR. HANSON INDICATED THOSE TWO NORTHERLY PROPERTIES I WOULD IF THEY FILED THIS NON ACCESS EASEMENT THAT COULD GO AWAY AS WELL. I LIKE THE I MEAN I THINK THAT'S BECAUSE I JUST I DON'T FEEL THAT THAT THERE IS SOMETHING UNIQUE TO ME. THANK YOU. I DON'T KNOW IF MY COLLEAGUES AGREE OR DISAGREE ON THAT ONE BUT THAT THAT'S THE DIRECTION ON ME. SO THEN MY LAST QUESTION KNOW THERE WAS A GOOD QUESTION THAT THERE'S SEVERAL REALLY GOOD QUESTIONS FROM THAT FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD THERE. YOU KNOW, WE'VE DEALT WITH THIS THIS THIS COUNTRY KIND OF FEEL BEFORE AND I'M NOT UNSYMPATHETIC TO THAT YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT A NUMBER OF PEOPLE IN MY FAMILY. MY WIFE GREW UP IN A COUNTRY AREA AND I KNOW HOW NICE THAT IS TO LIVE IN THAT AREA. SO IT THE POLICY OF THIS OF THIS COUNCIL AND OF STAFF THAT WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING ANYTHING OTHER THAN PERFECT GUTTER. I JUST WANT TO JUST GET THAT CLEAR IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'VE GOT OUT THERE HERE. COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN YES. THAT CURRENTLY IS THE POLICY THAT IF ARE GOING TO RECONSTRUCT A ROADWAY THAT WE WILL INSTALL CURB AND GUTTER WITH THAT WITH THAT WORK. OKAY. SO NOW WE'RE CLEAR ABOUT THAT AND THAT'S CERTAINLY SOMETHING THAT OUR THIS BODY, YOU KNOW, CAN DO OR DECIDE. AND SO IN TERMS OF WHATEVER PRIVATE ROAD DESIGNATION THAT WAS THE OTHER OTHER ROUTE THAT I WAS TO GO DOWN, YOU KNOW, WHAT WOULD THAT ENTAIL? OBVIOUSLY THAT WOULD TAKE THEM OUT OF THIS OUT OF THIS PIECE HERE AND I KNOW THAT THAT CAN BE QUITE EXPENSIVE TO GO DOWN THAT ROUTE AND IF FOLKS WANT TO PRESERVE THAT THAT COUNTRY FEEL WHAT WHAT IS IT WHAT IS THAT COST FOR THAT? YOU KNOW IF YOU COULD YOU KNOW, ESTIMATE I WANT THAT AND BE CAREFUL YOU KNOW ASK TO DO SOMETHING YOU KNOW FROM A BUT KIND OF PERSPECTIVE OF HOW THAT WOULD WORK AND AND I KNOW THAT THAT HAS SOME IMPLICATIONS AS WELL IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU KNOW, WHAT CAN AND CAN'T HAPPEN WITH THAT ROAD THEN I THINK SNOWPLOW AND THAT TYPE OF STUFF IS THEN DESIGNATED TO THAT AREA. THEY HAVE TO TAKE CARE OF THAT. ONE OF THE THINGS ARE A PART OF THAT IF THAT'S THE ROUTE IS IT YOU KNOW OBVIOUSLY WE HAVE YOU KNOW, WE'RE NOT IN A POLICYMAKING STANDPOINT RIGHT HERE. YOU KNOW, WE ALREADY HAVE A POLICY AND SO THIS MIGHT BE THIRD ROUTE TO KIND OF GO FOR AULL THIS THIS GROUP OUT AMIROWMAN AS YOUENTIONED THE IN GARDS TO THE MAINTENANCE THAT IT WOULD FULLY BECOME THE PROPERTY OWNERS OR THAT THAT BLOCK'S RESPONSIBILITY TO DO SO IN REGARDS TO COST I'M NOT SURE IF THERE'S ANYBODY ELSE PRESENT THAT HAS THAT HAS AN IDEA I'M NOT SURE WHAT THE COST OF SOMETHIN LIKE THAT WOULD BE OVERALL. MATENANCE OVERUMBER YEARS I'M SE WOULD BE CONSIDERABLE IN REGARDS TO THE COST FOR THOSE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS. BEYOND THAT I'M NOT I'M NOT SURE WHAT THAT WHAT THAT COST. AND MR. SAMMONS, I WOULDN'T EXPECT YOU TO SPECULATE. YEAH, I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT. YEAH. NO THAT TOTALLY TOTALLY SHOULDN'T BE. YEAH. THANK YOU MAYOR FOR CALLING ME OUT ON THAT. I SHOULD SHOULDN'T SHOULDN'T DO THAT AT ALL BUT THAT WOULD BE ANOTHER ROUTE IF THEY WANTED TO PRESERVE THAT IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD HOW WOULD WE GO ABOUT DOING THAT IF IF KNOW WOULD WE LEAVE THAT OUT TODAY OR YOU KNOW, FOR THEM TO DECIDE COULD THERE BE A SURVEY? CAN WE TAKE A QUICK POLL, MAYOR? I DON'T KNOW JUST. MR.. THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN I THINK REALLY COUNCIL HAS THREE OPTIONS HERE. ONE IS TO JUST PROCEED LEAVING IT IN THE PROJECT. THE SECOND IS TO PULL IT OUT. I MEAN THERE'S UNIQUE CHARACTERISTICS THERE. I THINK EVERYBODY RECOGNIZES THAT STAFF IS COMFORTABLE WITH THAT AND WE WOULD DEFER WE PROBABLY WOULDN'T. I MEAN YOU ASKED THE QUESTION ABOUT IT LEAVING IT OUT FOR A YEAR AND COMING BACK. I THINK WITH THIS ONE WE WOULD PROBABLY COME BACK AT IT MAYBE AFTER FIVE YEARS OR MORE JUST BECAUSE OF THE UNIQUE CHARACTER. THE THIRD OPTION I THINK IS TO DIRECT STAFF TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD, TO LOOK AT ALTERNATIVES TO CURB AND GUTTER YOU KNOW, AS WE SAID JUST PUTTING IN THE ROAD WITHOUT THE CURB AND GUTTER PROBABLY HAS AN IMPACT ON THE THE AND ANTICIPATED LIFE OF OF THE ROAD SURFACE SO WE'D WANT TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT'S GOING TO HELP EXTEND THE LIFE LONGER IT DOESN'T HAVE TO BE THE STANDARD CURB THAT WE PUT IN EVERYWHERE THERE MAY BE SOME OTHER OPTIONS SO YOU KNOW BEFORE WE GET TO THE CONSTRUCTION PHASE STAFF COULD PROBABLY WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO DO THAT AND SO THAT REMAINS AN OPTION TOO. THANK YOU. MR. BREWER THAT'S HELPFUL. AND I CAN JUST ADD TO THAT IF I MAY IN REGARDS TO THAT THIRD OPTION WORKING WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD ON A DIFFERENT OF CURVE AND GO TO A DIFFERENT A DIFFERENT LOOK IT'S BEEN BROUGHT UP IN THE PAST WHERE WE WHEN WE PUT THE INSTALL THE CURB AND GUTTER WE INSTALL IT WITH A BRIGHT WHITE SEAL ON IT THAT CAN BE PUT IN WITH MORE OF A CLEAR SEAL AS WELL SO IT DOESN'T HAVE THAT SUCH A LOOK SO COULD WORK ON THAT WITH THE ADJACENT PROPERTY OWNERS IF THAT WAS SOMETHING A PART OF THAT THIRD OPTION THAT THE CITY MANAGER PROBABLY JUST MENTIONED. THANK YOU MR. SANDS SO MR. FOR BREWER YOU JUST LAID OUT THREE POSSIBILITY IS ON THE THE SECTION THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THAT IS ITEM EIGHT THERE ORCHARD SPRINGS ROAD FROM 16TH AVENUE TO THE EAST TERMINUS STAFF BROUGHT IN THIS LAW AND BROUGHT FORWARD A SUGGESTION FOR THE WEST BLOOMINGTON FREEWAY SECTION AND IN FIVE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THERE AND THE IDEA OF THE NON ACCESS EASEMENTS WHICH FRANKLY I THINK SOUNDS LIKE A VERY GOOD IDEA IF WE COULD PURSUE THAT I THINK THAT MIGHT BE WORTH PURSUING AND TRYING TO RECTIFY THIS. I APPRECIATE THE CONCERNS THAT THIS THE RESIDENTS HAVE WITH NO ACCESS TO IT NO REAL USE OF IT AND NO REAL BENEFIT FROM IT. SO I THINK IF I APPRECIATE THAT IDEA COMING FORWARD AND I APPRECIATE THE BIT OF CREATIVITY AND PROBLEM SOLVING THERE I THINK THAT MAKES SENSE IT'S BACK TO SO IF LET'S LET'S ONE OF THESE AT A TIME SO THE REFERENCE NUMBER FIVE THE WEST BLOOMINGTON FREEWAY WEST HUNDRED SECOND TO WEST HUNDREDTH ARE WE COMFORTABLE DIRECTING STAFF TO TO TRY AND TAKE ON THIS NOTION OF THE NON ACCESS EASEMENTS WORKING WITH THE THE RESIDENTS TO TRY AND MAKE THAT WORK. I WOULD LOOK TO MR. FAROOQI THEN IS THAT A MATTER OF LEAVING IT IN THE PROJECT OR TAKING IT OUT OF THE PROJECT OR TAKING IT OUT OF THE PROJECT AND WORKING THROUGH IT OR LEAVING IT IN THE AND WORKING THROUGH IT AT THE SAME TIME? SO MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS WE WOULD LEAVE IT IN THE PROJECT AND THEN CONTINUE TO WORK WITH THE HOMEOWNERS ON WHAT THAT POSSIBILITY IS LOOK AT A REVIEW THE POLICY THERE'S A NUMBER OF THINGS THAT WE CAN DO BEFORE WE GET TO THE ASSESSMENT. WELL WEEK NEXT YEAR OR NEXT FALL AND NOT NEXT WEEK WHEN I'M DOING IT NEXT WEEK AND MR. MAY IF I AM ON TIME FLIES AROUND HERE BUT NOT THE COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO IF I MAY MR. MAYOR, THE OTHER PIECE THAT I HEARD TONIGHT THAT I THINK ISN'T STILL SUPER CLEAR TO FOLKS IS THAT IF IF IF THERE IS IF THE EASEMENT CONCEPT WORK AND THERE IS AN ASSESSMENT ON THE BLOOMINGTON FERRY SIDE THERE'S A THERE'S MY UNDERSTANDING IF I GET THIS RIGHT IT'S THERE'S THE IMPLICATION THAT THE COLFAX AVENUE SIDE WHEN IT COMES UP FOR MAINTENANCE WILL NOT ASSESSED TO THEM BECAUSE THEY'LL HAVE THEY ONLY PAY ONCE IT'S EITHER THE BACK SIDE OF THE FRONT SIDE BUT IT'S NOT BOTH. THAT IS CORRECT. SO I THINK IT'D BE IMPORTANT IN THIS PARTICULAR CASE AND NUMBER FIVE HERE TO MAKE THAT VERY, VERY CLEAR TO THE BECAUSE I DON'T KNOW IF THAT MAY NO PUN INTENDED IS SOME OF THEIR CONCERNS AS WELL. I APPRECIATE AND I THINK TO MR. KING'S POINT I THINK HE APPRECIATED THAT AND UNDERSTOOD IT. BUT TO MR. KING'S POINT, I DON'T I THINK HE THOUGHT HE WOULD NOT BE SEEING THE BENEFIT IF IT WAS A 35 YEAR PLAN THE LONG GAME HERE 35 YEARS OUT. THAT'S TRUE THAT THAT'S RIGHT MR. I DON'T KNOW WHEN COLFAX ON THAT SIDE IS COMING UP NEXT RIGHT IT COULD BE TWO YEARS FROM NOW IT COULD BE 20 MAYBE THAT SOME INFORMATION WE CAN ALSO GIVE TO THEM YEAH. OKAY. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. SO IF WE'RE COMFORTABLE WITH THAT THEN WE COULD LEAVE NUMBER FIVE IN THE IN THE PROJECT AND ASKED AND DIRT STAFF TO TOOVE FORWARD T WORK WITH THE NEIGHRHOOD GARDING NON AESS EASEMENTS. SO IF WRE COMFORTAB WITH THAT NUMBER EIG ORCHARD SPRING ROAD MR. FERRUCCI KIND OF LAID IT OUT WE CAN LEAVE IT IN , WE CAN TAKE IT OUT OR WE CAN LEAVE IT IN AND DIRECT STAFF TO WORK WITH THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO TRY AND FIND BETTER MORE PALATABLE OPTIONS WHEN IT COMES TO CURB AND GUTTER. NOW I WILL SAY THIS IS A VERY FAMILIAR DISCUSSION BECAUSE I THINK WE HAD THE SAME DISCUSSION AROUND MOORPARK WHEN THEY WERE WHEN THAT WORK WAS DONE I WAS JUST OUT THERE WITHIN THE PAST MONTH AND FRANKLY IT LOOKS FINE I MEAN THERE IS NO THERE WAS NO MAJOR CHANGE. I DIDN'T THINK TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT FITS RIGHT IN WITH EVERYTHING ELSE. IN FACT I MEAN I'M A TERMINATOR KIND OF GUY. I THINK IT ADDS A NEAT LITTLE PIN TO THINGS. IT MAKES A NEIGHBORHOOD LOOK A LITTLE BIT NEATER IN WITH THE STREETS BUTTONED UP LIKE THAT. SO I WOULD WOULD LOOK TO THE COUNCIL. WHAT DIRECTION DO YOU THINK WE WOULD LIKE TO TAKE I THINK STAFF HAS SAID IF IT'S A MATTER OF TAKING IT OUT OF THE PROJECT IT'S WE COULD TAKE IT OUT OF THE PROJECT. IT WOULD BE FIVE YEARS I THINK BEFORE WE'D BE TAKEN OUT TAKE ANOTHER LOOK AT THIS OR ASSESS WHAT'S OVER THERE. BUT IF THAT'S THE IF THAT'S THE DESIRE OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND WE OF NEIGHBORHOOD I MEAN I THINK OF WHAT IT EIGHT OR 11 HOUSES WHATEVER THEY SAID AND I THINK WE HAVE MOST OF THEM HERE AGREEMENT WE COULD DO THAT AND MOVE ON WITHOUT WITHOUT THAT AS PART OF THIS PROJECT. COUNCILMEMBER LOWN SO MARY, I KNOW THIS A MY AREA HERE SO FIRST THING I WANT TO SAY IS I KNOW WE HAVE A YOU KNOW, A KIND OF RELIGIOUS OR A MEDICAL RATIONALE TOO. AND I IT'S JUST ONE PERSON BUT TO DO THE DELAY AND I AM YOU KNOW, I YOU KNOW, I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT US CONSIDER THAT THAT PIECE OF IT WHATEVER DO. AND I ALSO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW IF WE COULD GO WITH THAT OPTION THREE THAT THAT THAT THE CITY MANAGER HAD PUT FORWARD BECAUSE WHAT I'M HEARING FROM THE NEIGHBORHOOD IS THAT YOU KNOW, THEY DON'T YOU KNOW I'M JUST KIND OF YOU KNOW, CHECKING EYEBALLS AND HEADS YOU KNOW I KNOW THAT PRIVATE WROTE IN AT SITES ON THEIR ARE INTERESTED IN BUT THEY WANT TO YOU KNOW KIND OF CONTINUE TO DO THIS AND MAYBE THERE ARE WAY IN WHICH THAT WE COULD COME UP WITH SOMETHING THAT'S UNIQUE. AND I DO THINK THAT THIS IS A DIFFERENT AREA THAN WHERE PARK YOU KNOW, MEMORIAL PARK IS MUCH MORE OF A YOU IT'S AN AREA THAT A LOT MORE PEOPLE UTILIZE. IT'S YOU KNOW IT'S A YOU KNOW IT'S A IT'S A REGIONAL TREASURE AND SO FOLKS DO COME DOWN IN THAT AREA AND I DO THINK THIS IS A LITTLE BIT DIFFERENT. SO I THINK A STAFF COULD WORK TO YOU KNOW, YOU KNOW, GET YOU KNOW WHAT THE TAXPAYERS NEED BY YOU KNOW PUTTING THE INVESTMENT IN THAT 75% THAT WE'RE GOING TO PUT IN THERE SOME TYPE OF THAT THAT PRESERVES THAT THAT THAT COUNTRY STYLE THAT THEY'RE THAT THEY'RE LOOKING TO TRY TO DO. I THINK THERE'S SOMETHING THAT THAT THAT THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND STAFF COULD COULD WORK TO AGREEMENT TO AND DO SOMETHING UNIQUE THAT IS WITHIN OUR POLICY I THINK IT'S POSSIBLE FOR FOR STAFF TO TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. SO COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN. THANK YOU, MAYOR. I I GUESS OVERALL I'D JUST COME DOWN ON THE SIDE OF UNIQUE COMPONENTS WHILE WHILE I'M SURE TO TO THE ABOUT MAINTAINING KIND OF THE CURRENT CHARACTERISTICS OF THE NEIGHBORHOOD AND ALLOWING THAT DEGREE OF CUSTOMIZATION ADDS QUITE A LOT OF COMPLEXITY TO WHAT TO ME SEEMS LIKE SHOULD BE ONE ROAD SYSTEM WITH VERY BASIC RELIABLE STANDARDS COMMUNITY WIDE AND ESPECIALLY WHEN I THINK ABOUT THE NUMBER OF BLOCKS ON THE EAST SID THAT ARE HEART THAT ARE IN THE HEART OF KIND OF OUR REAL SMALL GRID PATTERN BLOCK SYSTEM AND TO HAVE THE POTENTIAL OF THAT BE FROM ONE STYLE OF STREET TO THE NEXT STREET TO THE NEXT HILL STREET. SO JUST FROM FROM A POINT OF I THINK COUNCILMEMBER NELSON MIGHT OR IS AS EARLIER DRIVING DOWN COSTS AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE FOR THE TAXPAYERS CITYWIDE THAT ARE SUPPORTING THESE PROJECTS AS WELL AND I'D BE COMFORTABLE IF WE WANT TO PULL THIS FOR A LITTLE WHILE I UNDERSTAND THAT BUT I THINK CURVING GUTTER NEEDS TO BE INEVITABLE CITYWIDE AND KEEP ON TRUCKING. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON THANK YOU MAYOR. I AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN THAT IF THE CITY DOES THIS I THINK URBAN MAKES SENSE. I MEAN I LOOK AT THE MAP AND MAYBE I GET MYSELF IN TROUBLE FOR LOOKING AT THAT EARLIER BUT 16TH 896 HAS IT RIVERVIEW AVENUE HAS IT. RIVERVIEW AVENUE SOUTH HAS A CIRCLE LIKE EVERYTHING AROUND HERE IN THIS UNIQUE NEIGHBORHOOD APPEARS TO HAVE CURVING GUTTER OTHER THAN THIS ONE SMALL SECTION OF STREET. AND I GOT TO TELL YOU IT LOOKS LIKE A LOVELY NEIGHBORHOOD AND I HAVE EXPECTATION THAT PUTTING THAT IN THERE IS GOING TO DO ANYTHING OTHER KEEP IT AS A LOVELY NEIGHBORHOOD WITH WITH THE ONLY CAVEAT THAT CANDIDLY IF THEY WANT TO BUY THE ROAD AND MAINTAIN IT THEMSELVES AND DO ALL OF THAT I WOULD THROW THAT OUT AS A POSSIBILITY WITH STAFF ON THERE BUT IF WE'RE GOING TO BUILD IT I THINK WE BUILD IT THE WAY THAT OUR ENGINEERS TELL US IS THE BEST WAY TO BUILD IT TO MAINTAIN IT THE LONGEST AND THE ENTIRE IDEA OF THE PMP PROGRAM IS TO KEEP THE COSTS FOR THE RESIDENTS ON EACH INDIVIDUAL STREET AND THROUGHOUT THE COMMUNITY AT THE LOWEST PRICE. AND YOU KNOW, LET'S LET'S KEEP THE PRICES LOW. LET'S LET'S DO IT AT THE LEAST COST. IT'S YOU KNOW, IF IT CAN'T IT'S NOT GOING TO BE DETRIMENTAL TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD TO HAVE CURB AND GUTTER I APPRECIATE THEIR CONCERNS I THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT THE COST BUT I AM WILLING TO DELAY GIVEN THE MEDICAL REASON I AM WILLING TO DELAY IT TO HAVE FURTHER IF THERE ARE OTHER CURB TYPES OR THINGS THAT THAT STAFF CAN WORK WITH THEM ON TOTALLY FINE WITH THAT MAKES SENSE. I THINK WE SHOULD ALWAYS WORK WITH RESIDENTS TO FIND THE BEST SOLUTION BUT THE BEST SOLUTION SHOULD BE THE LOWEST LONG TERM COST FOR THE CITY TO MAKE THE BEST POSSIBLE ROAD IN MY OPINION. THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER NELSON. COUNCILMEMBER THANK YOU MAYOR. I THINK I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF DELAYING GIVEN THE HEALTH CONCERNS AND THEN LETTING IT COME BACK INTO THE I'M PARTICULARLY SENSITIVE TO IT JUST BECAUSE YOU KNOW MY DAD PASSED AWAY A FEW YEARS AGO AND I JUST HAD MY ROAD REDONE YEAR AND SO I UNDERSTAND THE THE THE COMPLICATION IT PUTS IN WHEN IT TAKES A LONG TIME. YOU DON'T KNOW WHEN THE CREWS ARE GOING TO SHOW UP AND THE TYPE OF WORK THEY'RE DOING AND IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ACCESS TO YOUR HOUSE, TO YOUR DRIVEWAY AT ANY PARTICULAR. SO I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF DELAYING THIS AND PULLING THIS FROM THIS YEAR ON COUNCIL. I THINK WE'RE KIND OF IN CONSENSUS HERE IN TERMS OF POSSIBLE DELAY THIS I MEAN I WOULD EVEN CONSIDER WE'VE HEARD FROM THE RESIDENTS NOTION OF THE CURB AND GUTTER AND THE NATURE OF THE WHAT WHAT WE HEAR IN 99% OF THE TIME FROM RESIDENTS IS THE COST ASSOCIATED IT AS WELL. AND SO GIVEN THE GIVEN THE NEIGHBORHOOD OPPOSITION GIVEN THAT THERE IS GOING TO BE THE COST DON'T KNOW THAT THEY NECESSARILY WANT TO DELAY IT A YEAR IF WE'RE GOING TO TAKE IT OUT I THINK I WOULD BE IN FAVOR OF TAKING IT OUT. STAFF IS SEEMS TO BE OKAY WITH IT IF WE COULD TAKE IT OUT AND COME BACK TO THIS IN FOUR OR FIVE YEARS AND SEE WHERE IT IS THEN I THINK THAT WOULD BE THE WAY TO GO ON THIS BUT I AGREE I DON'T THINK WE I DON'T THINK GO HALFWAY AND REDO IT WITHOUT PUTTING IN THE GERMAN GUTTER. I THINK THAT HAS TO HAPPEN BECAUSE IT'S A IT'S A PUBLIC STEWARDSHIP KIND THING THAT IT'S THE MOST EFFICIENT AND MOST EFFECTIVE WAY OF DOING IT AND TO DO LESS THAN THAT I THINK IS NEGLIGENT ON OUR PART. BUT IF THE NEIGHBORS ARE IN UNIFIED OPPOSITION TO THIS HAPPENING JUST WITH THE KNOWLEDGE THAT WHEN WE COME BACK IN FIVE YEARS THE PRICE TAG IS PROBABLY GOING TO BE HIGHER BECAUSE IT'S GOING TO BE FIVE YEARS FROM NOW. SO THAT WOULD BE MY THOUGHT. COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO, JUST A QUICK I'M FINE TAKING IT UP. I WONDER IF THE CONVERSATION WITH THE WITH THE RESIDENTS SOME MAKE SOME SENSE IF I UNDERSTAND THE THE LIKE OPTIONS FOR CURBING GUTTER THAT THAT WE WERE HEARING ABOUT YOU KNOW THERE ARE THOSE KIND OF SLOPING IS LIKE RIGHT WE ALSO OFFER THE OPPORTUNITY TO PUT IN RAIN GARDENS AND THINGS LIKE THAT WHILE THEY'RE IN THERE DOING THAT WORK BECAUSE WHICH IS ALSO VERY NATURE ORIENTED AND VERY GOOD FOR THE ENVIRONMENT. SO YOU KNOW, I DON'T KNOW THAT IT MAKES SENSE YOU KNOW MAYBE WHEN SO THAT WHEN IT COME UP IN FIVE YEARS WE HAVE A PLAN THAT WORKS FOR EVERYBODY IF THERE'S OPPORTUNITY TO EDUCATE ON THOSE ALTERNATIVES IN THE MEANTIME I THINK IT MIGHT STILL BE PRUDENT TO DO THAT IN FACT FOR OTHER PEOPLE AS WELL. I'M A HUGE FAN OF THE RAIN GARDENS AS PART OF THAT PROGRAM ANYWAY IT HELPS WITH OUR STORMWATER AND EVERYTHING SO MAYBE THAT'S AN OPTION THAT WOULD WOULD RESONATE TO KEEP THAT KIND OF NATURAL FEEL VERY GOOD. THANK YOU THANKS SO COUNCIL JUST TO KEEP THIS CONVERSATION MOVING I'M GOING TO MAKE A MOTION THAT WE REMOVE PROJECT NUMBER EIGHT OR TEN SPRINGS ROAD 16TH AVENUE TO THE EAST TERMINUS FROM THE PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM UH ORDER 2024 REGARDING THE PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM STREET RECONSTRUCTION PROGRESS SECOND SO WE HAVE TELL ME IF I'M DOING THIS CORRECTLY IF I'M RIGHT YOU'LL HIT ME IN THE BACK OF THE HEAD. I'M HOPING WE'VE GOT A MOTION IN A SECOND TO AMEND ITEM 4.1 TO REMOVE ITEM REFERENCE NUMBER EIGHT ORCHARD SPRINGS ROAD THE 16TH AVENUE TO THE EAST TERMINUS AND REMOVING THAT FROM ITEM 4.1 THE FEASIBILITY STUDY AND THE ORDER OF THE 2024 PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM STREET RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT EVERYBODY CLEAR ON THAT? WE HAVE A MOTION AND THE SECOND ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO HAS BEEN REMOVED SO NOW COUNCIL NOW WE'RE CONSIDERING EXHIBIT A ON YOUR AND IN YOUR PACKET THE LIST OF STREET LIST OF PROJECTS WOULD BE PROJECT ONE THROUGH SEVEN AND THEN NINE THROUGH 13 FOR THE FEASIBILITY STUDY AND THE PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM STREET RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT EVERYBODY CLEAR ON THAT AS WELL BECAUSE WE'RE CLEAR THE DISCUSSION WE HAD A NUMBER FIVE WAS TO DIRECT STAFF TO LOOK AT NON ACCESS EASEMENTS FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD BETWEEN AND NEXT FALL WHEN WE WOULD DO THE THE ASSESSMENT HEARING EVERYBODY CLEAR ON THAT SO WELL IF NOBODY WOULD I WON'T MAKE A MOTION TO APPROVE THE FEASIBILITY STUDY AND ORDER 2024 PAVEMENT MANAGEMENT PROGRAM STREET RECONSTRUCTION PROJECT AS AMENDED WHICH MEANS PROJECT NUMBER ONE THROUGH PROJECT NUMBER SEVEN AND THEN PROJECT NUMBER NINE THROUGH PROJECT NUMBER 13. SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION IN A SECOND FOR ITEM 4.1 ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA ANY FURTHER COUNCIL DISCUSSION ON THIS HEARING? NONE. ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I I OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO THANK YOU THANKS FOR THE CONVERSATION TONIGHT THANKS TO STAFF AND THANKS TO THE RESIDENTS FOR FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD AND THE CONVERSATION THERE AS WELL. NEXT UP ON OUR AGENDA ITEM 4.2 AND I'M GOING TO METAPHORICALLY HAND THE GAVEL TO COUNCILMEMBER AS THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING REGARDING SEAGATE TECHNOLOGY RESOLUTIONS OF SUPPORT FOR GRANT AND LOAN APPLICATIONS AND I AND ASSOCIATED WITH A COMPETITOR OF SEAGATE SO I AM GOING TO STEP AWAY FROM THE THE DAIS HERE AND TURN OVER THE GAVEL TO COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO COUNCILMEMBER AND ITEM 4.2 MR. PALERMO, YOU COMING UP TO THIS TO TALK TO US ABOUT THIS. THANK YOU. ACTING MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS GOOD TO BE WITH YOU TONIGHT. THANK YOU YOU IN HERE SO TODAY'S IT'S NICE PUBLIC HEARING IS FOR SEAGATE TECHNOLOGY THEY WILL BE THIS IS SOMETHING YOU'RE PROBABLY THINKING OH THIS USUALLY GOES ON CONSENT RESOLUTIONS OF SUPPORT FOR GRANT APPLICATIONS BUT THEY ARE SEEKING GRANT APPLICATIONS THROUGH THE MINNESOTA INVESTMENT FUND REQUIRES A PUBLIC HEARING SO THAT IS WHAT WE'RE CONDUCTING HERE IS EVERYONE CLEARED OUT THE ROOM SLIDE. SO JUST A LITTLE BIT ABOUT THE PROJECT SEAGATE TECHNOLOGY AT 78.1 COMPUTER AVENUE THEY ARE DOING AN EXPANSION OF THEIR FACILITY. THEIR FACILITY DOES BOTH PRODUCTION BUT ALSO DOES SOME TECHNOLOGY DEVELOPMENT THERE. THEY DO HARD DISKS AND HARD DISK STORAGE DEVICES THAT THEY LIKE TO POINT OUT THAT MOST OF OUR DATA GOES INTO THE CLOUD AND THEN IT GOES TO A HARD DISK. SO VERY NEEDED IN OUR OUR TECHNOLOGICAL INFRASTRUCTURE THEY ARE SEEKING FEDERAL CHIPS ACT FUNDING AND AS PART OF THAT YOU NEED A LOCAL MATCH SO THEY ARE APPLYING FOR THREE DIFFERENT SOURCES AND THOSE SOURCES ARE MINNESOTA INVESTMENT FUND LIKE I SAID REQUIRES A PUBLIC WHICH WILL OPEN AFTER THIS. THEY ALSO RESOLUTION OF SUPPORT AND THE REASON IT HAS A PUBLIC HEARING IS BECAUSE THE CITY ACTUALLY ENTERS INTO AGREEMENT WITH THE DEPARTMENT OF ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT AND THEN WE ENTER AN AGREEMENT WITH SEAGATE TECHNOLOGY IF AWARDED. SO BECAUSE WE WILL BE HOLDING IT WE HOLD THE PUBLIC HEARING THE OTHER TWO THE JOBS CREATION FUND AND THE MINNESOTA FOREIGN FUND WILL GO DIRECTLY TO SEAGATE IF AWARDED AND THEY REQUIRE JUST RESOLUTIONS SUPPORT WHICH TYPICALLY WOULD HAVE GONE ON A CONSENT AGENDA. BUT WE'LL JUST BRING IT WITH THIS ITEM THE JOBS CREATION FINE LITTLE BACKGROUND IF THE GRANT GETS AWARDED WHEN THEY ACTUALLY CREATE JOBS JOBS CREATION FUND IN THE MINUTES OR SO OF FORWARD FUND IS INTENDED TO SUPPORT APPLICATIONS THAT ARE PLAYING KIND OF FEDERAL FUNDING LIKE THE CHIPS ACT AND WHEN YOU GET AWARDED YOUR CHIPS FUNDING THEN YOU GET AWARDED YOUR FORWARD FUND BASED ON THAT GRANT. WITH THAT I'LL HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK Y MR.OLYMER ANYBODY HAVE A QUESTIONS? I'M SORRY, DID COUNCILMEER LOWMAN JUST LVE O DFTER RECUSEIMSELF AS WELL? OKAY. JUST STEPPED AWAY. SORRY. YEAH. SO ANYWAY, HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? NO, I HAVE ONE QUESTION FOR YOU AND THAT IS I BELIEVE THAT THERE'S SOME KIND OF A FORGIVENESS OF THE LOAN OR WHATEVER BUILT INTO THIS AND I WAS JUST CURIOUS ABOUT HOW MUCH THAT FORGIVENESS IS UP TO OF THE 4 MILLION OR SO THAT I THINK IS LOCAL OP LIKE LOOK YES ACTING MAYOR THEY ARE APPLYING FOR $4 MILLION TO THE MINNESOTA INVESTMENT FUND IS ANTICIPATED TO WILL BE CONSIDERED JUST A STRAIGHT LOAN THAT DEED PROVIDES AND THEN 2 MILLION WILL BE A FORGIVABLE OR A GRANT ONCE JOBS ARE CREATED AND THEY DO THE THAT THOSE JOBS HAVE BEEN CREATED THEN THAT CAN UP TO 2 MILLION COULD BE FORGIVEN. OKAY AND IS THAT IS THE MONEY THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BLOOMINGTON MONEY OR IS IT DEED MONEY THROUGH HENNEPIN COUNTY OR HOW DOES THAT WORK? THIS IS ALL MONEY ACTING MAYOR THROUGH DEED OUR CONTRIBUTION WILL JUST BE THE STAFF TIME THAT WE DO TO ADMINISTER MEETINGS TONIGHT AND HELPING WITH THE DOCUMENTATION TO DEAN THANK YOU. DID THAT SPUR ANY QUESTIONS FROM ANY OF YOU? OKAY. WELL THERE ARE NO OTHER QUESTIONS. THIS IS A PUBLIC HEARING SO AT THIS TIME. I'LL ASK IF ANYBODY IN THE CHAMBERS WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK ON ITEM 4.2 NO TAKERS. EVERYBODY GOT IT OUT EARLIER. ALL RIGHT, MR. SABLE, IS THERE ANYONE ON THE PHONE ACTING MAYOR? NO ONE IS ON THE PHONE. NO ONE'S ON THE PHONE. ALL RIGHT, ONE MORE TIME IN THE HERE IN THE CHAMBERS. ANYONE HERE TO SPEAK ON 4.2 THE PUBLIC HEARING ON STATE SOLUTIONS RESOLUTIONS OR SUPPORT? ALL RIGHT. WELL, IF NOTHING NOBODY WANTS TO SAY ANYTHING. I'LL LOOK A MOTION TO CLOSE A PUBLIC HEARING SOME OF SECOND WE HAVE A MOTION TO CLOSE FROM COUNCILMEMBER PUA SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER NELSON. ALL IN FAVOR I ANYBODY OPPOSED NO MOTION CARRIES FOR WHICH I THINK IS STILL OKAY BECAUSE THAT'S OVER THREE FANTASTIC MATH GOOD MATH AT 9:00 AT NIGHT PERFECT OKAY GREAT. ALL RIGHT. SO I THINK IF THERE'S OTHER DISCUSSION FROM THE TEAM WE CAN ADDRESS IT OTHERWISE WE CAN JUST MOVE FORWARD WITH THE MOTIONS HERE. WOULD ANYBODY LIKE TO MAKE THE MOTIONS? I THANKS COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN. HAPPY TO. MAYOR DALLESSANDRO, I WILL MOVE THAT WE ADOPT A RESOLUTION REGARDING THE AUTHORIZATION AND APPROVAL FOR A MINNESOTA INVESTMENT FUND APPLICATION GRANT AGREEMENT AND LOANS FORGIVABLE LOAN IN CONNECTION WITH SEAGATE TECHNOLOGY LLC WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN AND A SECOND BY COUNCILMEMBER MUIR ALL THOSE IN FAVOR SAY I I ANY OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES FOR ZERO ELSEWHERE. MARTIN ALL RIGHT. I DIDN'T TO SIT ONHE BENCH TONIT LET'S GO IOVE THAT WE ADOPT A RESOLUTION THE SUPPORT OF A JOB CREATION FUND APPLICATION IN CONNECTION WITH SEAGATE TECHNOLOGY EXCELLENT COUNCILMEMBER PASSES A MOTION COUNCIL SORRY YOU SECONDED THE MOTION FROM COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING I I IF ANYBODY OPPOSED GREAT MOTION CARRIES FOR ZERO AND ONE MORE TIME COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN THANK YOU MAYOR I MOVE WE HAD AFTER RESOLUTION REGARDING THE SUPPORT OF A MINNESOTA FORWARD FUND APPLICATION WITH SEAGATE TECHNOLOGY ONCE AGAIN COUNCILMEMBER SORRY COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN MADE THE MOTION COUNCILMEMBER SECONDED THE MOTION ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE INDICATE BY SAYING I I ANYBODY OPPOSED GREAT MOTION CARRIES FOUR ZERO FASTEST PUBLIC HEARING THING WE'VE HAD IN A WHILE I'M GOING TO TAKE I'M GOING TO TAKE THAT WHEN THERE THANK YOU FOLKS FOR DOING THAT I SAY ACTING MAYOR AND COUNCILMEMBERS THIS IS ACTUALLY EXCITING ANOTHER COMPANY THAT IS PURSUING CHIPS DOLLARS THE AMOUNT OF POTENTIAL INVESTMENT THAT'S COMING INTO BLOOMINGTON AS A RESULT OF THAT THE FEDERAL OPPORTUNITY IS REALLY GOOD FOR THE COMMUNITY RIGHT AND SO WE APPRECIATE THAT THESE COMPANIES HAVE STEPPED FORWARD AND ARE WILLING TO MAKE THAT KIND OF INVESTMENT IN THE COMMUNITY. IT'S A IT'S AN EXCELLENT SUCCESS STORY AND IT SPEAKS A LOT TO BLOOMINGTON BECAUSE TO SOME EXTENT WE'RE THE EPICENTER OF THIS INDUSTRY IN MINNESOTA. SO YOU KNOW, AS AS BLOOMINGTON GOES, SO GOES THE REGION AT LEAST IN THIS PART I AGREE WITH THAT COMPLETELY MR. CITY MANAGER AND I ASSUME THESE ARE RESOLUTIONS OF SUPPORT THAT WE WILL WRITE WILL INCLUDE LANGUAGE TO THAT EFFECT THAT. THE HOW DO THEY HOW DO THEY GENERALLY WHAT DO THEY GENERALLY SAY ABOUT AS WE ARE SUPPORTING THIS WHAT DO THEY GENERALLY SAY ACTING? MAYOR REMEMBERS THE PROGRAMS PROVIDE MODEL RESOLUTIONS THAT THEY ASK US TO ADOPT AND SO THAT'S WHAT YOU HAVE IN YOUR PACKET. OKAY GOTCHA. SO THERE'S IT'S NOT A LETTER IN ADDITION TO THE RESOLUTIONS THAT WE HAD IN THE PACKET. OKAY GREAT. THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. WELL I GUESS I CAN THANK THE GAVEL AND HAND IT RIGHT BACK TO OUR GOOD FRIEND MAYOR DEMBOSKY, OUR THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER. DID I MISS ANYTHING? WE WORKED REALLY HARD TO GET THAT DONE QUICK AND I'M OH, I FORGOT MY PHONE. I WAS LOST. ABSOLUTELY LOST. WE WILL MOVE ON. ITEM FIVE IN OUR AGENDA THE ORGANIZATIONAL BUSINESS OF THE EVENING AND WE'VE GOT A FEW ITEMS HERE IF I DO FIVE ITEMS WILL BE COVERING TONIGHT WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE OUR 2024 BUDGET DISCUSSION AND WE'RE GONNA START WITH ITEM 5.1 WHICH IS A DISCUSSION THAT WE CONTINUED OR WE BEGAN A FEW WEEKS BACK REGARDING OUR 2024 BUDGET AND RATE DISCUSSIONS OUT OF RUNNER UTILITY FUNDS. SO COREY CARLSON IS HERE. GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME. GOOD EVENING MAYOR AND COUNCIL SO YES, AT THE OCTOBER 16TH COUNCIL MEETING THE 2024 UTILITY RATES AND CORRESPONDING BUDGETS WERE PRESENTED BY UTILITY SUPERINTENDENT SCOTT ANDERSON. WATER RESOURCES MANAGER BRIAN GREENALL AND PUBLIC WORKS PROJECT COORDINATOR LAURA. AND THIS EVENING WE'RE HERE TO CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION ON THE FOUR UTILITY FUNDS ARE THE WATER FUND WASTEWATER FUND STORMWATER FUND AND THE SOLID WASTE FUND. THE 2024 UTILITY RATE PUBLIC HEARING HAD ORIGINALLY BEEN PLANNED FOR TONIGHT BUT AFTER THE OCTOBER 16TH COUNCIL MEETING WE MOVED THE PUBLIC HEARING TO NOVEMBER SEVEN SO THAT WE CAN INSTEAD COME BACK TONIGHT WITH SOME ADDITIONAL INFORMATION. AT THE END OF THIS PRESENTATION WE'LL BE LOOKING FOR A COUNCIL'S DIRECTION ON HOW TO PROCEED FOR THE PROPOSED 2024 RATES IN PREPARATION FOR THE NOVEMBER SEVENTH PUBLIC HEARING. AS A QUICK RECAP OF THE SERVICES THAT THE UTILITY FUNDS PROVIDE VERY QUICK THE WATER UTILITY HIGH QUALITY DRINKING WATER THE WASTEWATER UTILITY PROVIDES CITY SEWER SERVICES, THE STORMWATER UTILITY MANAGES EXCESS RAINWATER TO PREVENT AND IMPROVE WATER QUALITY BEFORE IT ENTERS PONDS LAKES AND RIVERS AND THE SOLID WASTE UTILITY SERVICES FOR GARBAGE RECYCLING ORGANICS YARD WASTE BULKY ITEM MANAGEMENT STORM CLEANUPS AND ENVIRONMENTAL HEALTH ABATEMENTS. AND I JUST WANT TO MAKE A NOTE THAT FORESTRY ACTIVITY FOR A DISEASE TREE IS MOVING INTO THAT IN THE 2024 BUDGET FROM THIS FUND TO THE PARKS AND RECREATION REVENUE FUND AND WE'LL SEE MORE OF THAT ON NOVEMBER 20TH. BUT NOW THAT PARK MAINTENANCE HAS FROM PUBLIC WORKS TO PARKS AND RECREATION HERE IS THE RECAP THE PROPOSED RATE INCREASES THAT WERE PRESENTED AT THE OCTOBER COUNCIL MEETING. SO JUST VERY QUICKLY THOUGH, THE INCREASE THE WATER RATE WAS SEVEN AND A HALF PERCENT WASTEWATER FOR STORMWATER SEVEN GARBAGE AN AVERAGE OF 4.66% AND THEN RECYCLING BULKY ITEM MANAGEMENT AND ORGANICS 3% INCREASES. SO THESE ARE THE KEY RATE DRIVERS FOR UTILITY. SO FOR THE WATER WASTEWATER AND STORMWATER UTILITIES THE DRIVERS ARE THE INCREASES IN SUPPLIES, CONTRACT SERVICES, MATERIALS AND PROJECT COSTS FOR RENEWAL AND REPLACEMENT. ALSO THE WASTEWATER UTILITY ALSO DOES HAVE THAT SIGNIFICANT CHARGE FROM COUNCIL ENVIRONMENTAL SERVICES AND THAT CHARGE IS GOING UP BY OVER 9% IN 2024. AND THEN FOR SOLID WASTE THE DRIVER FOR THE INCREASED PRICE INCLUDE THE COLLECTION PRICE ESCALATOR SET IN CONTRACT WITH THE HAULERS, THE DISPOSAL COSTS FROM HER ADMIN CHARGES IN THE PASS THROUGH TAXES FROM BOTH THE MINNESOTA STATE SOLID WASTE TAX AND THE HENNEPIN COUNTY SOLID WASTE FEE THAT ARE PASSED THROUGH . HERE ARE EXAMPLES OF PLANNED UTILITY PROJECTS IN THE LONG TERM BUDGET MODELS. JUST TO GIVE AN EXAMPLE OF SOME OF THESE ASSET INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. SO 1.3 MILLION TO REPLACE ONE OF THE CITY'S DRINKING SUPPLY WELLS SUPPLY WELL NUMBER TWO REACHED END OF LIFE AND IS BEYOND REHABILITATION A NEW WELL IS NECESSARY TO MAINTAIN THE CITY'S PLANT CAPACITY THE AND WATER CAPACITY QUALITY $9 MILLION IS PLANNED FOR CONSTRUCTION NECESSARY FOR DEWATERING SECONDARY SOLIDS AND THE WATER TREATMENT PLANT AND THIS PROJECT IS NECESSARY TO IMPROVE SOLIDS HANDLING AS PART OF THE WATER TREATMENT PROCESS IMPROVED TECHNOLOGY IS NEEDED TO ADDRESS LONG TERM SUSTAINABILITY OF THE LIME SOFTENING PROCESS $6 MILLION FOR AM AM I OR ADVANCED METERING INFRASTRUCTURE? WILBUR PLACE AGING WATER METERING INFRASTRUCTURE TO PROVIDE MORE TIMELY READS ADVANCED LEAK DETECTION REAL TIME ACCESS TO CONSUMPTION INFORMATION FOR THE CUSTOMER AND ENHANCED CONSERVATION IN $2.7 MILLION IS FOR A PEN LAKE STORMWATER PROJECT WHICH HAS BEEN LISTED BY THE MINNESOTA POLLUTION CONTROL AGENCY AS IMPAIRED FOR NUTRIENTS PRIMARILY THIS WORK WAS IDENTIFIED AS PART OF THE PENN LAKE HYDROLOGY STUDY COMPLETED LAST YEAR . SO NEXT I'M GOING TO RUN THROUGH SOME LONG TERM BUDGET MODELS. SO FIRST I'M GOING TO SHOW WHAT THE WORKING CAPITAL BALANCE LOOKS LIKE ON THE LONG TERM BUDGET MODEL FOR PROPOSED THE ORIGINALLY OPPOSED PROPOSED INCREASE AND THEN SO WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE AT A LOWER INCREASE SO JUST AS A KIND OF A REMINDER RECAP WE HAVE OUR LONG TERM BUDGET MODELS BUILT WITH FORMULAS THAT AUTOMATICALLY CHANGE COLOR OF THE WORKING CAPITAL BALANCE LINE WHEN COMPARED TO THE GOAL. SO THE FORMULA COMPARES THE WORKING CAPITAL BALANCE TO THE GOAL THAT'S NEEDED FOR THE FUND AND IT HIGHLIGHTS IT IN GREEN IF IT'S AT 90% OF GOAL OR BETTER YELLOW IF IT'S OVER 80% AND THEN IT GOES TO RED IF IT'S UNDER 80% UNDER 80%. SO FIRST ONE HERE IS THE WATER FUND WITH THE ORIGINAL SEVEN AND A HALF PERCENT PROPOSED RATE INCREASE. SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE WORKING CAPITAL BALANCE AND THIS IS GREEN WITH THIS PROPOSED RATE HERE'S HERE IS THE MODEL WATER FUND MODEL SHOWN WITH A 5% INCREASE. SO YOU CAN SEE THE WORKING CAPITAL GOING TO MORE YELLOWS AND THEN LATER REDS 26 AND 27 THIS ONE IS THE WASTEWATER. SO THIS IS THE ORIGINAL 4% INCREASE YOU SEE THE GREENS AND THEN GOES A LITTLE BIT BELOW 90% AND 27 SO GOES THE YELLOW AND THEN THIS IS THE WASTEWATER UTILITY WITH WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE WITH A 2% INCREASE. SO THEN YOU CAN SEE IT GOES TO RED IN 2027. NEXT IS THE STORM WATER THIS WAS WITH THE ORIGINAL 7% INCREASE. IT'S AND THIS IS WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE WITH A 5% INCREASE AND THEN THE THE LAST FUND THE SOLID WASTE THIS THIS IS WITH A 4.66% AVERAGE INCREASE DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE GARBAGE AND THEN THE 3% FOR THE RECYCLING AND ORGANICS WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE AT 3% AND THEN JUST ANOTHER AT A LOWER ONE THIS WOULD BE A 2% INCREASE ACROSS THE BOARD IS WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE. SO THAT'S ON THE THE BUDGET SIDE LONG TERM MODEL THE EFFECT ON THE WORKING CAPITAL BALANCES THE NEXT SLIDES I WANT TO SHOW YOU THERE'S GOING TO BE THREE OF THEM. SO THESE SLIDES ARE SHOWING WHAT THE TOTAL 2024 CITY UTILITY BILL WOULD LOOK LIKE A RESIDENT A DIFFERENT PROPOSED WATER INCREASE PERCENTAGES LOTS OF DIFFERENT SCENARIOS THAT WE COULD DO WITH ALL THE DIFFERENT RATES BUT. THE MOST IMPACTFUL WAS THE WATER SO WE WENT TO SEE WHAT IT WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR WATER GOING FROM SEVEN AND A HALF PERCENT DOWN TO 5%. AND SO THE FIRST SCENARIO IS SHOWING THE IMPACT OF A SMALL GARBAGE CAN COMBINED WITH 4000 GALLONS OF WATER USE SOME KIND OF MINIMUMS AND ON THE LEFT IS THE ORIGINAL AND A HALF PERCENT INCREASE WATER INCREASE THREE FOR WATER AND JUST OUT THIS IS THE SAME ONE THE ONE THAT WE SHOWED BACK ON OCTOBER 16. SO THIS WOULD BE A $33 INCREASE FOR THE YEAR AND THEN JUST TO THE RIGHT OF THAT WE'VE GOT THE PERCENT A 6% AND A 5% AND WHAT THE REDUCTION WOULD BE IN A YEAR FOR THE RESIDENTS SO FOR A 7% THAT WOULD GO DOWN TO $0.48 FOR THE YEAR. A 6% INCREASE WOULD BE A IN RELATION TO THE SEVEN AND A HALF PERCENT A SAVINGS OF A DOLLAR 68 PER YEAR AND THEN A 5% INCREASE WOULD $2.88 LESS FOR THE YEAR SUNSETS SMALL GARBAGE IN 4000 GALLONS OF WATER USAGE SO NEXT TO LOW TO MEDIUM GARBAGE AND 11,000 SO IT GOES UP A BIT BUT THAT SECOND SCENARIO IS SHOWING AND THE 7% AND DOLLAR 32 SAVINGS 6% $4 AND 62 AND 5% $7.92 AND THAT'S ALL IN RELATION TO THE ORIGINAL PROPOSED SEVEN AND A HALF PERCENT THAT WE HAD PROPOSED. AND THEN FINALLY FOR A LARGE IN HERE AND 22,000 GALLONS OF WATER USE SO THIS IS GOING INTO TIER TWO WATER RATES NOW. SO IT'S MORE OF AN IMPACT. THE 7% WOULD BE A SAVINGS OF $3.84 A YEAR 6% $12.84 AND THEN 5% $21.24. SO FINAL SLIDE HERE JUST WE'RE PROPOSING THAT THE CITY KEEP THE ORIGINALLY PROPOSED 2024 RATES KIND OF INCLUDED THE CITY'S OVERALL FINANCIAL MANAGEMENT POLICIES PART OF THAT IS THE CITY'S REVENUE POLICY WHICH STATES THATHE TY WILL SET FS AND USER ARGES F FUNDS SUCH AS THES THAT SUPPORT THE COST ACVITY INCLUDINGAPITAL ASSET RETIRENT AND DT SEICE IF NECESSA NECESSARY JUST T MAINTAIN A POSITIVE CASH FW, PROVIDE ADEQUATE WORKG CAPITAL SOM OF THE REASONS LISD HERE FIRSTUST ENSURE THATHERE ARE ADEQUE FUS AVAILABLE F ASSET RENEWAL ANDAINTENANCE. SECOND, JUST LKING ATHE ANNUAL SAVGS TO AUSTOMER, THE DREASING RAT DID NOT LOOK AS SIGNICANT OF AN PACT AS IT DS TO T RKING CAPITALALANCE FOR THE FDS FORXAMPLE DECREASING THEATER RATE DN FROM SEVEN AND A HALF PERCT INCREASE DOW TO A 5% INCREASE WOULD B A $2.1 MILLION REDUCTION IN TH AVLABLE WORKING CAPITAL BALANCE FOR TT WATER FUND FOR THE NEXT YEAR 24HROUGH 27 BUT FOR THE RATE REDUCTION IT COULD BE MAYBE A SAVINGS OF DEPENDING THEIR USAGE AND THEIR SIZE OF THEIR GARBAGE $2.88 SAVINGS HERE TO MAYBE $21.25 FOR THE YEAR. THE THIRD REASON IS THAT BLOOMINGTON'S DRINKING WATER RATES REMAIN AMONG THE LOWEST IN THE AREA FOR SOFTENED WATER AND THEN FINALLY JUST THE POTENTIAL OF FUTURE UNKNOWN OBLIGATIONS ASSOCIATED WITH CONTAMINANTS OR CLIMATE CHANGE EVOLVING REGULATIONS THAT MAY NOT CURRENTLY BE CAPTURED IN THE CMB OR IN OUR BUDGET MODELS. SO THAT IS THE END OF PRESENTATION. JUST LOOK NOW FOR THE COUNCIL'S DIRECTION AND HOW YOU'D LIKE TO PROCEED FOR THE PROPOSED 24 RATES IN PREPARATION FOR THE NOVEMBER 27TH PUBLIC HEARING. THANK YOU, MS. CARLSON. I APPRECIATE IT. AND COUNSEL, THIS WAS WAS BROUGHT BACK BECAUSE WE HAD THE CONVERSATION AT THE END OF THIS DISCUSSION FIRST TIMERS OR WAS THERE A WAY THAT WE COULD POSSIBLY REDUCE SOME OF THESE RATES? WOULD IT IMPACT THINGS SIGNIFICANTLY? HOW WOULD IT LOOK AND MS. CARLSON'S BROUGHT FORWARD SOME OPTIONS AND SOME POSSIBLY THESE SO I'D LOOK FOR YOUR FEEDBACK ON THAT, LOOK FOR SOME THOUGHTS WHAT YOU HEARD. I'M GOING TO START JUST WITH THE CAVEAT. SURE. YOU PROBABLY NOTICED MAYBE DIDN'T SEE IT OCTOBER 29TH IN THE STAR TRIBUNE THERE WAS A STORY ABOUT MINNESOTA IS USING SIGNIFICANTLY LESS WATER THAN IT WAS EVEN 2030 YEARS AGO. I MEAN SIGNIFICANTLY IN BLOOMINGTON IT'S NO DIFFERENT THAN THAT AND SO IT'S IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE TO KEEP IN MIND BECAUSE OUR WATER UTILITY IS A IS AN ENTERPRISE FUND AND. MUCH OF OUR WATER INFRASTRUCTURE IS WHAT WE LIKE TO CALL A FIXED ASSET WHERE IT'S THERE AND IT'S WE'VE GOT TO PAY FOR IT. IT'S GOT BE USED AND SO IT'S A IT'S A BALANCING ACT THAT WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT. AND SO AGAIN, LOOK FOR YOUR AND YOUR THOUGHTS YOUR THOUGHTS ON THIS BUT WITH THAT AS THE CONTEXT WITH WHAT WE JUST HEARD AND WITH THAT NOTION OF THE CONXT THAT IT'S ALSO TRUE HERE IN BLOOMINGTON WE'RE USING LESS WATER WHICH MEANS LESS WATER REVENUE TO DEAL WITH THE WATER INFRASTRUCTURE THAT HAVE IN PLACE. SO THAT CAN COUNCILMEMBER WOMAN OH GO GET IT STARTED YOU KNOW I WAS VERY RELUCTANT TO KIND OF YOU KNOW MOVE OFF OF WHAT YOU KNOW STAFF HAD PUT FORWARD AND PART OF ME IN THAT TO KIND OF TAKE IT DOWN AND ANYTHING YOU KNOW I DON'T KNOW THAT I DON'T KNOW THAT THE COUNCIL IS WE WE WOULD TAKE IT FROM SEVEN ALL THE WAY DOWN TO FIVE YOU KNOW FROM FROM THE WATER PIECE AGAIN I STILL AM RELUCTANT TO MAKE CHANGES BUT YOU KNOW, MAYBE BRINGING IT DOWN A LITTLE BIT WOULDN'T BE YOU KNOW, FROM SEVEN I DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU KNOW SEVEN 7.5 TO 7 WOULD LOOK LIKE. I IMAGINE THERE'S GOING TO BE AN IMPACT IF IT DID THAT. I DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH SAVINGS THOUGH THAT YOU REALLY PROVIDE IF YOU DON'T TAKE THAT FULL 2% CUT. YOU KNOW, NOT PARTICULARLY WITH THE THE GARBAGE PIECE, YOU KNOW WHERE YOU COUPLED WITH THAT WATER PIECE AT THAT UPPER LEVEL, YOU KNOW, I'VE GOT A LITTLE MORE INTEREST IN THAT THAT SEEMS TO HAVE A MUCH BIGGER IMPACT TO FOLKS BUT. AGAIN, THAT'S I MEAN AND I DON'T WANT TO MAKE IT SOUND LIKE $21 ISN'T A LOT OF MONEY THAT IS YOU KNOW THAT'S THAT'S QUITE A BIT OF MONEY BUT I DON'T KNOW I JUST I'D RATHER JUST LOOK OVERALL TO FIGURE OUT WHAT WE CAN DO. YOU KNOW WITH OUR WATER TIER SYSTEM. YOU KNOW, AS A AS A LONG TERM THING AND WE'RE ALREADY LOOKING AT THE SOLID WASTE PIECE TO FIGURE OUT WHAT MAKES SENSE TO KIND OF MOVE FORWARD WITH THAT. AND SO I RATHER JUST KIND OF WAIT BEFORE WE KIND OF START MAKING MOVING STUFF AROUND. THAT'S JUST MY MY OPINION OTHERS. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON THANK YOU MAYOR. I SUPPORT STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION AT THE RATES THAT THEY HAD THEM AT. I DO SYMPATHIZE BECAUSE OUR COSTS PEOPLE AND WITH WATER I WOULD JUST RECOGNIZE THAT THE RATE IS NOT COST IT'S RATE TIMES YOU USE THAT AS THE COST AND USE THERE ARE ITEMS YOU CAN DO TO CONTROL YOU CAN REDUCE IT AND AT THE HIGH LEVEL OF THE 22,000 WE HAVE DATA THAT ALMOST NO HOUSEHOLDS USE MORE THAN THE WHAT IS IT THE 12,000 PER TWO MONTHS IN THE WINTER IN THE SUMMER WATERING LAWNS FILLING THE FILLING POOLS WASHING CARS MAYBE I STILL CONSIDER THOSE DISCRETIONARY AND THE REALITY IS IF WE DO SOMETHING TO I MEAN I'VE SEEN THINGS ELIMINATE THE SECOND TIER WELL ALL THAT DOES IS RAISE THE COST OF WATER FOR EVERYBODY IN THE CITY BECAUSE TIER ONE HAS TO GO UP. WE HAVE TO COVER THAT $7 MILLION THAT COMES FROM TIER TWO. YOU KNOW AND IN MY MIND PARTICULARLY WITH THE WATER I MEAN WE BUILD IT BASED ON HOW MUCH YOU USE AND THAT TO A CERTAIN EXTENT MAKES SENSE BUT THE COST, THE WATER, THE WATER'S FREE. IT'S IN A BIG AQUIFER. NO ONE OWNS THE AQUIFER. WE DON'T PAY ANYBODY TO HAVE THE WATER. WE PAY FOR THE WELL. WE PAY FOR THE PUMPS, PAY FOR THE PIPES. WE PAY FOR THE DISTRIBUTION SYSTEM. WE PAY FOR THE TREATMENT WE PAY FOR THE TOWERS WE PAY FOR THE INFRASTRUCTURE, THE WATER, THE OUTPUT OF THAT AND. WE HAVE TO ALL PAY FOR THAT AND THAT'S THE CHALLENGE OF THIS. THAT'S THE WHOLE WEIRD QUANDARY OF WE WANT YOU WE WANT PEOPLE TO USE LESS WATER BECAUSE WE DON'T WANT TO DRAIN OUR AQUIFERS LIKE THEY IN MANY PARTS OF THIS COUNTRY. I MEAN YOU CAN GO SEE THE DATA ,THE DRAINED AQUIFERS AND OURS IS NOT DRAINED. WE DON'T WANT TO DO THAT AND YET THAT TO A CERTAIN EXTENT MEANS THE RATE GOES UP. IT'S JUST A WEIRD QUANDARY IN THAT WAY BUT THESE ARE MINIMAL MINIMALLY IMPACTFUL. I DO AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN ON THE THE TRASH AND THINGS LIKE THAT. I DON'T KNOW THAT THERE'S MUCH WE CAN DO ABOUT THAT UNTIL WE RENEGOTIATE THE NEXT CONTRACT AND I WAS IN FAVOR OF AN RFP LAST TIME I'M IN FAVOR AND RFP NEXT TIME I AM IN FAVOR OF DOING EVERYTHING WE CAN TO GET THE BEST DARN RATES WE FOR THINGS AND WE ARE IN A MUCH STRONGER POSITION THIS TIME SO I HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT WE WILL WE WILL BE IN THAT BETTER POSITION AT THAT TIME. SO I'M SUPPORTIVE. OUR STAFF IS WE NEED TO PAY FOR THESE THINGS. ONE LAST COMMENT A LOT. WHAT I HEARD DURING THE CAMPAIGN IS WELL WHY DON'T YOU YOU KNOW, SAVE UP MONEY. WHY DON'T YOU HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY FOR THIS MAINTENANCE? WELL, THIS IS HOW WE DO IT. YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO COLLECT MONEY TO HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY FOR THE MAINTENANCE OF THINGS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY AND THAT'S WHAT WE'RE DOING HERE. AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE LOOKING AT SOMEWHERE BETWEEN A $2 AND A $20 PER YEAR IMPACT TO HOUSEHOLDS. YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT'S REASONABLE. SO I'VE SAID WAY MORE THAN I NEEDED BUT THANK YOU. THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER JUST TO MR. FERBER WOULD BE SOMETHING TO END WITH THIS. UH, YEAH. YEAH. MR. MAYOR, I'M SURE I HEARD SOMETHING REALLY WISE AND SAGE TO SAY BUT IT HAS COMPLETELY ESCAPED ME VERY GOOD. MOVING ON, COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO. WELL, I DON'T KNOW HOW TO FOLLOW THAT PITHY COMMENT. I THANK YOU, MR. MAYOR. SO SO I AGREE IN PRINCIPLE WITH EVERYTHING THAT COUNCILMEMBER SAID WE DO HAVE TO PAY FOR THINGS. YOU KNOW, WE'RE KEEPING WORKING CAPITAL BALANCES AS HIGH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN IN ORDER TO PAY FOR THOSE THINGS I TOTALLY GET IT RIGHT. NOBODY WANTS TO BE ASKED TO DO A SPECIAL ASSESSMENT OF A HIGH DOLLAR AMOUNT BECAUSE WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT FUND AVAILABLE. BUT I WILL ALSO THAT LIKE THERE ARE SOME PLACES HERE WHERE I DON'T FEEL AS UNCOMFORTABLE SO LIKE THE INCREASE OF 2% VERSUS 4% ON THE WASTEWATER UTILITY FUND IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S NOT SUPER IMPACTFUL UNLESS WE UNLESS WE DON'T RAISE THEM AGAIN AND OF COURSE WE WILL AT SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE AS WELL. SO IT'S NOT LIKE WE WOULDN'T CONTINUE TO MOVE THAT THAT ESTIMATE UP BUT THE BUT THE THE NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE FOR THE SMALL GARBAGE SMALL GALLON WATER USES JUST ON WATER IT'S NOT ON WASTEWATER AND STORM AND ALL THAT STUFF SO I DON'T HAVE A I HAVE A VISUAL ON WHAT THE IMPACT OF THAT IS. I ONLY HAVE THE VISUAL ON THE ON THE WATER UTILITY HERE EXCUSE ME SO I DON'T I'M A I'M OF OF A I GUESS A COMBINED MIND. I THINK WHERE WE CAN MINIMIZE THESE INCREASES. WE SHOULD AND WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, YOU KNOW WE DON'T WE DON'T MAYBE I'M CRAZY BUT I DON'T KNOW THAT EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE EXCUSE ME EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE WORKING CAPITAL FUND BALANCES NEED TO BE AT 98% ALL THE TIME YEAR OVER YEAR OVER YEAR OVER YEAR I COULDN'T TELL BY WHAT THE BUT PROVIDED WHEN THOSE BIG PROJECTS ARE GOING TO COME DUE LIKE THE WATER FUND LIKE IS DO I SEE THE $9 MILLION FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF MECHANICAL DE-WATERING SOLIDS IN IN THERE LIKE I COULDN'T QUITE TELL I ASSUME THAT THAT'S WHAT THE 8.15% IS MAYBE BUT I COULDN'T DRAW THOSE CONCLUSIONS SO I, I GUESS I HAVE A FEELING THAT IT DOESN'T MATTER. I THINK YOU ALL ARE PROBABLY OF LIKE MIND AND I'M NOT AND THAT'S FINE SO WE CAN ALWAYS WORRY ABOUT THAT ALSO AT THE AT A LATER TIME. BUT YOU KNOW HERE'S THE THING RIGHT? WHAT I HEARD FROM PEOPLE IS EVERY SINGLE PLACE THEY LOOK THE MONEY GOES UP RIGHT EVERY SINGLE PLACE THAT THEY LOOK WE'RE ADDING THE SALES TAX NOW IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO. IT'S $0.40 ON THE DOLLAR, YOU KNOW, TO TO US AS OPPOSED TO 100 A DOLLAR ON A DOLLAR. I GET THAT THEN THEN THE LEVY IS THAT WE'RE SITTING AT NINE SOMETHING RIGHT NOW AS A CAP THEN EVERY SINGLE RATE UTILITY RATE GOES UP AND EVERY SINGLE YOU KNOW I THINK WE HAD FEE CHANGES AT YOU KNOW IN PERMITTING AND LIKE INSPECTIONS AND ALL OF THESE KINDS OF THINGS. IT'S JUST IT'S A HARD SELL RIGHT. AND TO THE EXTENT THAT WE CAN MINIMIZE THAT WE SHOULD IN MY OPINION. SO I'M NOT OPPOSED TO THE RECOMMENDATIONS HERE BUT I ALSO AND I YOU KNOW, I TRUST I TRUST FINANCE I KNOW YOU'RE VERY GOOD STEWARDS OF OUR MONEY AND THAT MATTERS A LOT, RIGHT? SO I KNOW YOU'RE NOT TRYING TO JUST SQUIRREL MONEY AWAY FOR NO GOOD REASON. LIKE I REALIZE THAT ABSOLUTELY . I JUST WANT US TO HAVE SOME. THANK YOU. YOU'RE VERY KIND I I JUST WANT US I WANT US TO TO TO TRY WHERE WE CAN TO MINIMIZE THESE IMPACTS AND YOU KNOW, I KNOW 1% DOESN'T NECESSARILY SOUND LIKE A LOT BUT IT'S A LOT EASIER STORY TO SAY THAT YOU YOU DID A 6% THING THAN YOU DID A SEVEN AND A HALF PERCENT THING. I MEAN IT DOES MATTER TO PEOPLE AND THE IS REALITY THERE SO ALL THAT HAVING SAID I REALLY APPRECIATE THE FEEDBACK AND I WAS PROBABLY ONE THAT ASKED FOR THE 5% THING SO VERY MUCH APPRECIATE THE ANALYSIS BEING DONE ON IT. I THINK IT GIVES US A REALLY INTERESTING PICTURE AND I THINK THERE'S A MIDDLE GROUND SO THAT'S MY THOUGHTS. THANKS COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN AND COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER MARTIN. THANK YOU, MAYOR. JUST BRIEFLY, I REHASH EVERYTHING THAT'S BEING SAID AND I APPRECIATE COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO POINT ABOUT COSTS BECAUSE IT IS EVERY TIME WE TURN AROUND THE NUMBERS GO UP. I MEAN WE ARE VERY LONG STORY SHORT FOOD INSECURITY IN THE TWIN RIGHT NOW IS THE WORST IT'S BEEN SINCE THE GREAT DEPRESSION AND IT'S ONLY SKYROCKETING WE'RE SECOND HARVEST HEARTLAND FOOD BANK MOVED ALMOST TWICE AS MUCH FOOD THIS YEAR AS WE DID IN 2019 AND WE'RE BARELY KEEPING UP AND IT'S BECAUSE EVERYBODY'S GETTING NICKEL AND DIMED EVERYWHERE THEY GO. I THINK TO TO THAT AND I UNDERSTAND LEVERAGING SOMETHING LIKE THESE FUNDS AS A WAY TO TRY AND REALIZE SAVINGS BUT AT THE SAME TIME I THINK IT GETS BACK TO MAYOR WHAT WHAT YOU'VE APTLY PHRASED THE STOP DOING LIST BECAUSE WE CAN SAVE TO 88 A YEAR FROM SEVEN AND A HALF TO 5%. BUT WE ALSO HAD A MEETING PRETTY RECENTLY WHERE WE TALKED ABOUT 500 $600,000 AND NEW STAFF ADDS THAT WOULD BE COVERED OVER THE FIRST FEW YEARS BUT THEN ROLL ON. THAT'S A 1% INCREASE RIGHT THERE THAT WE TALKED ABOUT FOR A HALF HOUR BEFORE WE SAID LET'S LET'S MOVE FORWARD. SO I THINK IF WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A COST SAVING CONVERSATION AND I KNOW I WON'T BE AROUND FOR THAT BUT I JUST I WOULD RECOMMEND FRAMING IT BASED ON CONVERSATIONS I'VE HAD WITH MY CONSTITUENTS AS. DO YOU WANT US TO DRASTICALLY SLOW DOWN PARKS PROJECTS? DO YOU WANT US TO NOT PRIORITIZE THE RACIAL EQUITY WORK WE'RE DOING IT PUT PUT OUT THERE AS OPPOSED TO SAYING TINKERING AROUND THE EDGES IS GOING TO MAKE A MEANINGFUL DIFFERENCE. WHY NICKEL AND DIME WHEN YOU CAN JUST SAY WHAT DO I WANT TO PAY FOR COUNCILMEMBER NIEMEYER AND THAT'S WHERE I WAS GOING WITH COUNCILMAN MARTIN'S THOUGHT THERE IS AS MUCH AS WANT TO SAVE RESIDENTS MONEY BECAUSE I'M HAVE A YOUNG FAMILY EVERY DOLLAR COUNTS A DOLLAR MEANS I'M GETTING A FORMULA OR I'M NOT AND I'M NOT THE ONLY FAMILY IN IN TOWN GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE THAT DECISION BECAUSE WE'RE GETTING INCREASES EVERYWHERE. I'M BUT THIS JUST ISN'T GOING TO MAKE THAT IMPACT SO IT JUST COMES DOWN TO THE QUESTION OF WHAT REALLY MATTERS AND WHAT ARE THE BIG TICKET THINGS THAT WE HAVE TO PAUSE OR DRAW BACK ON THAT WILL THEN GIVE PEOPLE THE ACTUAL OPPORTUNITY TO TO SAVE TO TO LET US KNOW WHAT REALLY CARE ABOUT. AND SO AS I'VE BEEN HEMMING HAWING ABOUT THIS, I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF STAFF'S RECOMMENDATION BUT LOOKING FORWARD TO THE OTHER CONVERSATIONS COME AROUND ONCE WE GET INTO IT. OTHER COMMENTS COUNCILMEMBER LOWMAN I'LL JUST I'LL SAY THIS I REALLY APPRECIATE THE FACT THAT WE DID THIS EXERCISE YOU KNOW, PART OF THE REASON WHY I HELD THE ITEM EARLIER TODAY WAS BECAUSE WE HAD A RESIDENT THAT'S, YOU KNOW, SAYING EXACTLY WHAT COUNCILMEMBER ELIZONDO IS SAYING. YOU KNOW, I'M GETTING NICKEL AND DIME THE DEATH AND I'M SEEING, YOU KNOW, COUNCIL IS TRAVELING ALL OVER THE PLACE. HEY, WHERE'S THE RELIEF AND I DO THINK THAT, YOU KNOW, AS WE'RE LOOKING AT THE FINAL BUDGET, YOU KNOW, LET'S YOU KNOW, IN THAT SPIRIT OF WHAT WERE ARE SAYING LET'S AT A WAY OF LOOKING AT CUTTING SOME BIG ITEM OR SOMETHING TO BRING THAT OVERALL RATE DOWN AGAIN I DON'T KNOW WHAT IT YOU KNOW IT'S MUCH EASIER TO SAY IT YOU KNOW WE'VE HAD THAT DON'T DO LIST FOR STOP LOSS FOR FOUR YEARS BUT YOU KNOW I KNOW THERE ARE SOME FOLKS WHO ARE ON FIXED INCOME I'VE HEARD THAT FROM PEOPLE WHO ARE BIG SUPPORTERS OF THE CITY, YOU KNOW YOU KNOW HEY I'M JUST REALLY GET ROUGHED UP HERE AND SO Y KNOW IT IS PART OF OUR YOU KNOW, OUR STRATEGIC PRIORITIES. WE TALK ABOUT THAT AFFORDABILITY COMPONENT OF IT. LET'S SEE WHAT WE CAN DO THIS YEAR TO TRY TO BRING SOME KIND OF SAVINGS BACK TO THOSE RESIDENTS THEY'RE REQUESTING. SO IF ONE OF OUR GOALS WITH THIS WAS TO PROVIDE DIRECTION TO THE STAFF, I THINK WE HAVE DIRECTION TO THE STAFF. SO I APPRECIATE THE ADDITIONAL INFORMATION HERE AND I THINK YOU DO HAVE YOUR DIRECTION AND I THINK WE'LL LOOK FORWARD TO THE OFFICIAL PUBLIC HEARING ON THE 27TH OF THIS MONTH. YES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU . NEXT UP ON OUR AGENDA IS ITEM 5.2. OUR CONTINUED DISCUSSION BEING ON OUR INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY DEPARTMENT. AMY CHENEY, WE DON'T SEE YOU FOR MONTHS AND WE SEE TWICE IN ONE MEETING. IT'S GOOD TO SEE YOU. WELCOME BACK. HELLO MAYOR. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I'M HERE TO PRESENT IT BUDGET . LET'S START WITH THE CHALLENGES. WHY NOT GO RIGHT TO I CAN DO IT IN REVERSE IF YOU WANT TECHNOLOGY I KNOW WHAT YOU'RE LACKING IN . IRONY CAN BE PRETTY ERRORS OF IRONY THERE ISN'T A. ALL RIGHT, WELL SO I WILL START WITH THE WE'VE GOT THREE SUPERVISORS ONLINE IF WE NEED THEM FOR QUESTIONS WE'VE GOT HABBUSH KYLE, JOHANNES AND JUSTIN ARE AVAILABLE IF WE HAVE QUESTIONS OR MAYBE IF WE NEED SOME TECHNICAL SUPPORT UM ,I WILL START WITH OUR OUR MISSION STATEMENT. IT INSPIRES INNOVATION THROUGH COLLABORATION WITH CITY STAFF AND OUR PARTNERS TO DELIVER THE HIGHEST QUALITY SERVICES AND OUR AGENDA FOR THIS EVENING IS TO TALK ABOUT THE 2024 VERSUS023 BUDGET REEST VY GOOD STAFFING EXPLANATION OF THE 2024 BUDGET INCREASES NEW INITIATIVES AND CHALLENGES AND HAVE SOME TIME FOR Q&A AT THE END . OKAY. SO THIS IS A LOOK AT WHAT OUR 23 BUDGET WAS VERSUS OUR 2024. AS YOU CAN SEE HAVE AN INCREASE IN BOTH REVENUES AND EXPENSES. AND THIS NEXT SLIDE IS OUR LONG TERM MODEL AND AS COREY WAS EXPLAINING DURING THE UTILITIES DISCUSSION, WE LOOK AT OUR CAPITAL BALANCE, OUR WORKING CAPITAL BALANCE AND WE WILL BE BELOW OUR GOAL YEAR AND SIGNIFICANTLY BELOW THE GOAL 2027. SO FOR SEVERAL YEARS IT CHARGES WERE HELD ARTIFICIALLY LOW DUE TO TO PRESSURE OFF THE TAX FROM THE IN GENERAL FUND BUDGET INSTEAD OF FULLY CHARGING OF THE COST SO TRANSFERS TO THE FOR TO THE IT FUND WERE MADE FROM OTHER FUNDS LIKE STRATEGIC PRIORITIES TO KEEP US IN BUSINESS BASICALLY INFRASTRUCTURE LICENSING AND SULFUR AGREEMENTS ARE ALL INCREASING IN PRICE AND AS A CITY GOVERNMENT WE REQUIRE SPECIALIZED SOFTWARE, HARDWARE AND SERVICES TO MANAGE THE MANY CITY THAT WE HAVE INCLUDING PUBLIC SAFETY UTILITIES ENGINEERING COMMUNITY, PUBLIC HEALTH, LEGAL FINANCE AND I CAN KEEP GOING EACH DEPARTMENT OR DIVISION IS REALLY ITS OWN LINE OF BUSINESS AND THEY REQUIRE SPECIALIZED SOFTWARE. THE CITY ALSO HANDLES SENSITIVE DATA AND NEEDS TO ADHERE TO STRICT SECURITY AND COMPLIANCE STANDARDS SUCH AS FBI C JUST HIPA AND THIS REQUIRES INVESTMENTS IN ADVANCED SECURITY MEASURES DATA ENCRYPTION SOFTWARE SYSTEMS REQUIRE CONSTANT SUPPORT AND MAINTENANCE AND SOFTWARE UPDATES AND HARDWARE REPAIRS ADD TO OVERALL AND WE DEAL WITH LARGE VOLUMES OF DATA STORING MANAGING AND SECURING THE STATE IS COSTLY. WE MUST HAVE REDUNDANT SYSTEMS AND DISASTER RECOVERY SOLUTIONS TO ENSURE CONTINUITY OF SERVICES DURING EMERGENCIES AND HIRING AND RETAINING SKILLED I.T. PERSONNEL AS COMPETITIVE . LOOKING AT THE I.T CHARGES TO DEPARTMENTS WE CHARGE ON A PER EMPLOYEE BASIS BASED ON TIME AND PART TIME REGULAR EMPLOYEES AND THAT COSTS US ABOUT THOUSAND $700 PER PER YEAR AND THIS WAS AN INCREASE OF 8.5% FROM THE 2023 TO 2024 BUDGET. THE NEXT SLIDE IS JUST ANOTHER LOOK AT THE CHARGES TO DEPARTMENTS BY PERCENTAGE AND AS YOU CAN SEE OUR TWO LARGEST DEPARTMENTS ARE HAVE THE LARGEST PERCENTAGE OF CHARGES FOR I.T SERVICES SERVICES AND NEXT WE'LL LOOK AT STAFFING. THIS IS A LOOK AT OUR STAFFING COVID 19 FULL TIME AND ONE PART TIME POSITION. CURRENTLY WE ARE REQUESTING A FULL TIME ADMINISTRATOR AND AND THIS IS TO DO A FEW THINGS ONE IT'S NEEDED TO SUPPORT NEW STAFF AND PROGRAMS AND HELP WITH IMPLEMENTING REQUIRED IMPLEMENTATIONS FOR CONSTRUCTION OF NEW FACILITIES AND REFURBISHING OR REMODELING EXISTING FACILITIES. THE NETWORK WILL HELP ENSURE A CONSISTENT RESPONSE TO CYBERSECURITY THREATS BY PERFORMING THE MORE ROUTINE TASKS ASSOCIATED WITH NETWORK ADMINISTRATION SO THAT SENIOR LEVEL STAFF CAN TAKE A MORE PROACTIVE APPROACH TO MITIGATING AND SECURING VULNERABILITIES. ANOTHER NOTE ABOUT STAFFING IS OUR GIS STAFF. TWO OF THOSE STAFF MEMBERS CAME TO I.T FROM PUBLIC WORKS ENGINEERING IN 2022 SO THAT WAS AN INCREASE IN STAFF BACK IN 2022 AND JUST TAKING A LOOK AT WHAT WE ACTUALLY DO, WE SUPPORT OVER 850 END USERS, 150 APPLICATIONS BACK MY EVERYBODY NEEDS SOMETHING VERY SPECIALIZED AND SPECIFIC TO RUN THEIR DEPARTMENTS OR DIVISIONS. WE HAVE 60 PLUS PROJECTS PER YEAR. WE SUPPORT THE PHONE SYSTEM SECURITY AND ALL OF THE TECHNOLOGY INFRASTRUCTURE FOR THE CITY. SOME SPECIFIC PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE OUR GAS GEOGRAPHICAL INFORMATION SYSTEMS, DATA MANAGEMENT ALL THIS IS A CITY WIDE EFFORT. IT DOES PLAY A SIGNIFICANT ROLE IN DATA MANAGEMENT AND THEN FIBER OPTICS WHICH I'LL TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT ON THE NEXT SLIDES WE DO A SATISFACTION SURVEY ANNUALLY AND WE'VE GOT A 4.5 SATISFACTION SURVEY SURVEY RESULTS RIGHT NOW AND WE CLOSE ABOUT 3500 SUPPORT TICKETS EACH YEAR AND THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE ALL OF THE SERVICES THAT WE BUT IT DOES CAPTURE THE ONES THAT ARE THROUGH OUR TICKETING SYSTEM. LOOKING AT THE 2024 BUDGET INCREASES SOFTWARE AND HARDWARE MAINTENANCE INCREASES OF ABOUT 319,000 THESE ARE SOMEWHAT UNCONTROLLED COSTS SOME CONTROLLED SOME ARE NEW SOFTWARE THAT WE'RE ADDING. SOME ARE JUST INCREASES UP TO 20% INCREASE FOR SOFTWARE WE ARE EXPANDING OUR FIBER OPTICS NETWORK AND YOU CAN SEE ON THE MAP THE BLUE AREAS ARE THE ONES THAT WE ARE ADDING IN 2023 AND 2024. WE ALSO HAVE AN I.T. STRATEGIC PLAN AND A GAS STRATEGIC PLAN THAT INCLUDE INITIATIVES AND THEN LOOKING AT THAT NETWORK ADMINISTRATOR WHICH I DO WANT TO POINT OUT IS ALREADY PROGRAMED IN OUR BUDGET AS A CONTRACT EMPLOYEE IF THAT'S NOT APPROVED AS A FULL POSITION YOU'RE IN , IT'S JUST NEW INITIATIVES. OUR GREEN SAFE CITIES WHICH ARE BOTH GAS INITIATIVES FOR OUR PARKS AND THE POLICE DEPARTMENT THESE ARE PRIMARILY FOR ADDITIONAL DECISION MAKING ABILITIES AND TRANSPARENCY. WE ARE ALSO LOOKING AT SYSTEM RESILIENCY AND REDUNDANCY AND THAT'S PRIMARILY WITH OUR BACKUP METHODOLOGY AND OUR NETWORK STORAGE AND FIBER OPTICS. THE FIRST CONNECTION THAT WE'RE WE PLAN TO DO THIS YEAR WAS TO FIRE STATION TWO AND ONE GOLF COURSE. THE BID SPEC IS IN PROGRESS. WE WILL NOT GET THE FIBER CONSTRUCTED THIS YEAR SO THAT WILL BE A SPRING OF 2024 PROJECT AND CYBERSECURITY. WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT WORKING WITH THE MINUTE STATE OF MINNESOTA IT FOR AN ENHANCED PARTNERSHIP YOU MAY BE AWARE THAT THE STATE OF MINNESOTA WAS GRANTED FUNDING FOR CYBERSECURITY AND THEY ARE MAKING WAYS TO HELP LOCAL AGENCIES AS WELL. AND THEN THE LAST NEW ENERGY INITIATIVE THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT IS ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE WHICH IS CLEARLY NOT GOING AWAY. SO WE ARE GOING CONVENE A WORKGROUP TO STUDY HOW TO BEST LEVERAGE AI IN THE CITY AND THEN ALSO LOOK AT THE CHALLENGES AND THE THE ANTICIPATED RISKS INVOLVED WITH HIGH ADDITIONAL CHALLENGES THAT WE ARE FACING WHICH I'VE KIND OF MENTIONED BUT THE FINANCIAL NEEDED TO KEEP THE SYSTEMS UP TO DATE ESPECIALLY AS WE MOVE THINGS INTO THE CLOUD. IT DOESN'T MEAN THAT WE DON'T HAVE ANY WORK TO DO WITH OUR SYSTEMS SO WE ARE STILL MAINTAINING AND SUPPORTING THOSE SYSTEMS AND AS MENTIONED BEFORE WE DON'T HAVE A LOT OF LEVERAGE WHEN IT COMES THE INCREASES THAT ARE PRETTY MUCH ANNUAL 5 TO 20% INCREASES JUST THE CONTINUALLY EVOLVING SECURITY LANDSCAPE YOU CAN'T GO THROUGH YOUR PHONE WITHOUT SEEING ANOTHER YOU KNOW, BREACH SOMETHING. SO WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE CONTINUALLY WATCHING THAT AND THEN JUST SUPPORTING CONSTRUCTION OF NEW AND REFURBISHED CITY FACILITIES. THERE'S A FEW COMING DOWN THE PIPE AND IT'S KIND OF HARD TO PLAN THE TIMING OF THOSE AND MAKING SURE THAT WE'RE STAFFED TO TO MEET THE NEEDS OF THOSE . AND WITH THAT I IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS I'D BE HAPPY TO ANSWER THOSE. AND AS I MENTIONED, TALON AND JUSTIN ARE ALSO AVAILABLE. THANK YOU. THANKS. THE PRESENTATION I WILL SAY TWO NUMBERS THAT JUST JUMPED OUT AT ME AND DON'T KNOW IF IT'S A QUESTION AS MUCH AS A COMMENT BUT THE PER EMPLOYEE COSTS OF $10,772 IS JUST STUNNING TO ME AND I'M I GUESS THERE IS A QUESTION HOW DOES THAT COMPARE WITH OUR OTHER SYSTEM WIDE OPERATIONS? I'VE GOT TO IMAGINE IT'S SIGNIFICANTLY HIGHER THAN WHAT WE THAN WHAT FLEET SERVICES CHARGES THAN WHAT YOU KNOW ANYBODY ELSE CHARGES AND I'M I'M LOOKING AT HIM TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION BUT HE'S JUST LOOKING AND THEN THE SECOND QUESTION I HAD I WAS ALSO SURPRISED TO SEE 150 APPLICATION FINES. NOW WE'RE ALL UNIQUE. WE ALL DO DIFFERENT THINGS. I GET THAT. BUT THAT SEEMS HIGH FOR AN ORGANIZATION OF THIS SIZE AND I DON'T HAVE COMPARABLE DON'T HAVE COMPARABLE SO I CAN'T SAY THAT YOU KNOW, IT SHOULD BE THIS BUT IT JUST SEEMS TO ME MY GOODNESS FOR THE THINGS THAT WE DO THAT ARE FAIRLY STANDARD FAIRLY STANDARD MORE THAN 150 APPLICATIONS SEEMS LIKE A LOT. MARY I GUESS I'LL TAKE THAT ANSWER IN THAT QUESTION FIRST AND THEN WE CAN CIRCLE BACK TO YOUR OTHER QUESTION. YOU KNOW THEY CAN BE VERY SMALL APPLICATIONS FROM YOU KNOW, JUST FOR A FEW USERS THAT HAVE A VERY PARTICULAR NEED TO LARGE APPLICATIONS LIKE OUR ERP SYSTEM. SO WHEN YOU TAKE IT ALL INTO ACCOUNT IT ADDS UP PRETTY QUICKLY AND HOW MANY APPLICATION AS WE HAVE. YEAH LIKE I SAID I DON'T HAVE ANY ANY COMPARABLE OR I CAN'T SAY WELL WHAT ABOUT THIS BUT THAT JUST STRIKES ME AS IS A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER. MR. RUBY ANY THOUGHTS THAT THAT PER EMPLOYEE COSTS THAT JUST SEEMS REMARKABLY. YEAH. MR. MAYOR, WE'D HAVE TO GO BACK AND TAKE A LOOK AT THAT FOR THE THE CHARGING METHODOLOGY FOR DIFFERENT DEPARTMENTS AND THE DIFFERENT FUNDS IS DIFFERENT, RIGHT? SO WITH THE FACILITIES WE HAVE YOU OUR A CALCULATION THAT INCLUDES SQUARE FOOTAGE AND OCCUPANCY WITH FLEET IT'S DEPARTMENT OWNED OPERATIONS AND SO IT IS ON A PER EMPLOYEE BASIS OR A PER VEHICLE BASIS IT'S YOU KNOW UTILIZATION OF THAT VEHICLE GETS FACTORED IN . SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S A GOOD COMPARISON ON THE PER EMPLOYEE THAT I CAN GIVE YOU FOR ANY OF THE DIFFERENT FUNDS BUT WE CAN WE CAN TAKE A LOOK AT IT AND SEE IF WE CAN COME UP WITH SOMETHING. YEAH, I APPRECIATE JUST YOU KNOW, FOR MY OWN EDIFICATION BUT ALSO AS A AS A POINT OF REFERENCE AND I UNDERSTAND TECHNOLOGY IS AND TECHNOLOGY IS DIFFERENT GET THAT IN A LOT OF WAYS BUT I JUST SOMETHING MAYBE TO TO LOOK AT AND TO CONSIDER AND TO TRY AND WRAP OUR ARMS AROUND A LITTLE BIT BETTER AND MAYBE ONE MORE POINT IT WAS JUST A FEW YEARS AGO THAT WE CHANGED A PER DEVICE SYSTEM TO A PER EMPLOYEE AND SO SORT OF TAKING WHAT WE KNEW ABOUT CHARGING BY DEVICE AND CONVERTING IT TO A PER EMPLOYEE, YOU KNOW THAT'S WHAT WE HAD TO DO AND THANK YOU NOTES ANY QUESTIONS THOUGHTS COMMENTS COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO LET'S SEE IF I CAN GET THROUGH THIS ONE THIS TIME. SORRY ABOUT THAT, MR. MAYOR. YEAH I WAS GOING TO MAKE A COMMENT SIMILAR TO YOURS ABOUT THAT AND I'M WONDERING IF YOU KNOW THERE'S THERE'S ALWAYS THERE'S A VERY BIG DIFFERENCE AND I DON'T I DON'T ASSUME WHAT GOES INTO THAT NUMBER BUT . CERTAINLY WE KNOW THAT OUR YOU KNOW IT PROFESSIONALS, OUR GIS PROFESSIONALS YOU KNOW, FOLKS THAT ARE ACTUALLY ACTIVELY MANAGING OUR WEBSITES ON A DAILY BASIS SOME OF THE THINGS LIKE THAT WE'D HAVE A DIFFERENT COMPUTER SYSTEM AND A DIFFERENT SET OF MONITORS AND THEY'D HAVE A DIFFERENT YOU KNOW, REQUIREMENT FOR YOU KNOW, ACCESS TO TO THE TO THE INTERN ETC. THEN YOU KW SOMEBODY WHO IN A MORE ADMINISTRAVE ROLE OR WHATEV I MEAN, Y KNOW THE FOLKS IN GAL HAVE VERY SPIFIC SOFTWARE PKAGES THEY HAVE TO USEEXISNEXIS AND OTHERHINGS LIKE TT. YOU KNOW SEBODY IN PUBL RKS IS NOT AESSING AND AND AL THAT SO I WONDER I THERE'S THE PENTIAL TO DO MOREF US A TR AIER PROGRAMT THE PER PER EMPLOYEE BASISHERE YOU KNOW EMPLOYEES TT ARE LARGELY YOU KNOW IN THE FIELDHO ARE LIKE MOR MORE ON THEIR MOBILE DEVICE THAN THEY ARE AT A DESKTOP O YOU KNOW, OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT WHO DON'T NESSARILY HAVE,OU KNOW, NEED FOR, YOU KNOW, HIGH END HIGH YOU KNOW YEAH I GUESS, I DON'T KNOW HIGH SPEED LIKE WHATEVER YOU KNOW IS THERE A WAY TO SAY LIKE OKAY THERE'S A GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THIS LIKE $6,000 TIER AND THERE'S THIS GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THIS $8,000 TIER. THERE'S THIS GROUP OF PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THIS $11,000 TIER AND DO WE CAN WE CAN DO THAT AND CAN WE POTENTIALLY REALIZE SOME SAVINGS? I DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S OR NOT. IT COULD BE THAT, YOU KNOW, YOU END UP AT THE SAME NUMBER BECAUSE PUT SOME PEOPLE DOWN IN THE 6000 AND OTHER PEOPLE END UP IN THE 12,000 TO MAKE IT WORK GREAT. SO I GET THAT BUT WAS SURPRISED BY IT TOO. I'M JUST THINKING LIKE LIKE IN MY OWN UP AT HOME RIGHT? I WORK FROM HOME TODAY AND I HAD TO BUY OUT YOU KNOW MY MY COMPANY BOUGHT MY WHOLE SETUP AND EVEN WITH MY STANDING DESK AND WITH MY DUAL AND WITH MY, YOU KNOW, M1 MACINTOSH AND LIKE ALL THIS OTHER STUFF I CAN'T COME UP WITH $10,000 FOR MY SETUP ON A YEARLY BASIS. SO IT'S JUST YOU KNOW AND IT'S ONE THING IF IT'S CAPITAL LIKE SPENT $10,000 TO GET A SETUP BUT THEN I DON'T SPEND THAT MONEY THE SECOND YEAR AND THIRD YEAR AND FOURTH YEAR. RIGHT. AND YOU KNOW DEPRECIATION ASIDE SO I DON'T KNOW IF THERE'S ROOM THERE TO LOOK ACROSS YOU KNOW, THE 850 PEOPLE WE SUPPORT THAT WOULD BE GREAT BECAUSE THAT'S THAT COULD BE SIGNIFICANT. THANKS THE QUESTIONS I REMEMBER NELSON THANK YOU MAYOR JUST A COUPLE TECHNICAL QUESTIONS. FIRE DEPARTMENT ALLOCATION WENT UP 102%. IS THAT DUE TO NEW FIRE FIGHTERS THEY COST MORE I.T THAN HAVING PAID ON CALL GET THAT WAS EASY ENOUGH TO ANSWER THIS. I HAD A QUESTION ABOUT THE BENCHMARK AS WELL AND AS OPPOSED TO LOOKING AT THE BENCHMARK JUST FROM WHAT OTHER SERVICES ARE DO WE BENCHMARK AGAINST OTHER ORGANIZATIONS IN TERMS OF HOW MUCH THEY'RE KIND OF TO COUNCILMEMBER D'ALESSANDRO WAS POINT YOU KNOW I JUST HAVE A SMALL COMPANY SO WHEN I'M SPENDING 10,000 I'M PERSONALLY YOU KNOW BUT TO BE FAIR DEPARTMENT WHICH CONSISTS OF ME IS NOT THAT GREAT SO YEAH I DON'T SUPPORT MAX I CAN TELL YOU THAT RIGHT NOW IN TERMS OF THE CONSTRUCTION PROJECTS AND THE COST, WHY IS THAT NOT BUILT INTO THE CONSTRUCTION BUDGET TO DO THE INFRASTRUCTURE AND CAPITAL AND THINGS THAT NATURE ? WHY IS THAT BUILT INTO THIS BUDGET? MAYOR MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL AND COUNCILMEMBER NELSON SOME OF THEM SOME OF THE COSTS ARE BUILT INTO THAT BUT OTHERS YOU KNOW, THEY RELY ON IT FOR CERTAIN SERVICES AND THEY'RE NOT BUDGETING OUTSIDE OF THE COSTS FOR THAT. SO LIKE PLANNING FOR THE THE NETWORK SCHEMA OF OF A NEW BUILDING THAT THAT RELIES ON IT WE DON'T OUTSOURCE THAT IF THEY NEED A NEW FIBER OPTICS CONNECTION DIRECTLY TO THAT BUILDING THAT IS BUILT INTO THE THE CONSTRUCTION COSTS. SO IT SORT OF DEPENDS ON WHAT IT IS FOR THE NEW BUILDING. THAT'S WHERE I WOULD JUST LOOK TO THE CITY MANAGER TO MAYBE CONSIDER LOOKING AT THAT DIFFERENTLY THAT IF WE'RE PROVIDING DESIGN SERVICES FOR THE BUILDING THAT WOULD BE A CAPITAL COST THAT COU GO INTO JUST LIKE ARCHITECTURE AND THINGS OF THAT NATURE EVEN IF IT'S COMING FROM INTERNAL STAFF THE ONE OF THE COMMENTS YOU MADE WAS CONTRACT EMPLOYEE BUILT INTO IT. IF WE DON'T APPROVE THE NEW POSITION, COULD YOU EXPLAIN THAT FURTHER TO ME? I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT PART. YEAH. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMAN COUNCILMAN NELSON WE DETERMINED THAT WE NEED TO HAVE A NETWORK ADMINISTRATOR LIKE IT. WE ARE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO FULFILL OUR DUTIES WITHOUT A NETWORK ADMINISTRATOR. WE DID NOT KNOW IF COULD ADD A FULL TIME NETWORK ADMINISTRATOR BUT WE NEED ONE. SO WE BUILT IN THE COST OF A CONTRACTOR OR IN THE EVENT THAT WE DO NOT GET APPROVED FOR A FULL TIME POSITION AND THAT'S WITH ALL THE NEW CONSTRUCTION AND REMODELS AND REFURBISHING AND CYBERSECURITY . WE JUST WE CAN'T DO IT WITH THE STAFF THAT WE CURRENTLY. OKAY. AND MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL COUNCIL MEMBER NELSON THE ISSUE THERE IS JUST WHETHER THERE'S A SENSITIVITY AROUND THE FTE THAT'S THAT'S THE ISSUE RIGHT. AND IF SO IF COUNCIL WANTED TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO TAKE A HARD LINE ON FEES THEN WE HAVE TO GO THE CONTRACTOR APPROACH SO WE HAVE FUNDS TO DELIVER THE SERVICE IN THE BUDGET. RIGHT IT'S JUST A MATTER OF WHETHER WE DO IT THROUGH THE CONTRACTOR ROAD OR THROUGH THE STAFFING ROLE AND FRANKLY WILL GET MORE GOING THROUGH THE STAFFING ROUTE BECAUSE OF WHAT WE PAY ON AN HOURLY BASIS CONTRACTORS. FAIR ENOUGH. QUESTION WHAT FIBER OPTICS ARE ? WE'VE HAD THIS DISCUSSION RECENTLY ABOUT THE NUMBER OF FIBER OPTIC COMPANIES THAT ARE IN THE MARKETPLACE. IS THERE A POINT AT TIME AT WHICH IT MAKES SENSE TO UTILIZE PUBLIC OR PRIVATE FIBER OPTICS? I ASSUME OURS ARE VERY SENSITIVE IN TERMS OF WHAT THEY DO SERVING THE FIRE STATIONS AND, THINGS LIKE THAT. BUT IS IT POSSIBLE TO USE THOSE PRIVATE NETWORKS SOME POINT IN THE FUTURE? I MEAN YOU'RE A COUNCIL MEMBER COUNCIL MEMBER NELSON WE HAVE LOOKED AT THAT IN THE PAST GENERALLY. THE LEASING IS PROHIBITIVE, YOU KNOW, COMPARED TO BUILDING HAVEN'T LOOKED AT I RECENTLY. THE PRIVATE NATURE OF IT IS VERY HELPFUL TO THE CITY AS WELL SO THAT WE KNOW THAT NO OTHER IS RIDING ON THAT SAME NETWORK BUT WE COULD LOOK AT LEASING AGAIN IT'S JUST PROVED TO NOT BE A COST EFFECTIVE METHOD AND IN THE PAST THAT'S RIGHT AND I DON'T KNOW IF WE'RE THERE I JUST KNOW THAT THEY'RE PUTTING A LOT OF FIBER IN BLOOMINGTON RIGHT NOW AND THAT THAT MAY HAVE COMPLETELY CHANGED OR MAY COMPLETELY CHANGE THE NEXT 2 TO 3 YEARS. LAST COMMENT I HAVE ON THIS IS BUDGET CONCERNS ME YOU KNOW I LOOK AT A SITUATION WHERE I MEAN I CAN UNDERSTAND THE 21 TO 22 BECAUSE OF WE BROUGHT IN GIFTS AND SO THERE ARE ADDITIONAL COSTS BECAUSE THEY'RE JUST TAKING SOMETHING OUT OF SOMEONE ELSE'S BUDGET BUT YOU KNOW GOING FROM 6.4 MILLION TO 8 MILLION LAST YEAR ,YOU KNOW THAT'S SIGNIFICANT GOING TO 8.5 AND THEN YOU KNOW WE CONTINUE TO DROP DOWN THAT WORKING CAPITAL BALANCE AND IT SEEMS JUST LOOKING AT THE SPREADSHEET PAGE FIVE ON THAT WAS ALL DRIVEN BY COSTS COSTS ESCALATING VERY, VERY SIGNIFICANTLY ACCORDING MY CALCULATIONS ARE JUST SHY OF 50% IN SIX YEARS GOING UP. I MEAN THE COSTS ARE GOING UP EXTRAORDINARILY RAPIDLY AND I JUST WANT TO KNOW WHAT WE DO TO CONTROL THAT GOING BECAUSE THIS SEEMS TO ONE OF THE BUDGETS ARE DRIVING A LOT OF THE THINGS AND WE YOU KNOW, WE JUST TALKED ABOUT WATER AND THAT TYPE OF THING AND THEN SAID WELL WHAT ELSE CAN WE DO? THIS LOOKS TO ME TO BE AN AREA THAT WE NEED TO REALLY, REALLY A DEEP DOVE INTO AND FIGURE OUT SOMETHING TO DO HERE BECAUSE FRANKLY IS IS QUITE STARTLING ME THAT THERE MR. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON WE SHARE THAT CONCERN YOU CAN JUST SEE BY THE FORECASTED NON-SUSTAINABLE RATE AND SO TO SOME EXTENT A LITTLE BIT HOSTAGE TO VENDORS AND SERVICE AND WHAT THEIR WHAT THEIR RATES AND CHARGES ARE SOME OF THIS IS INCREASES FROM THEM BECAUSE OF THEY CAN TO SOME EXTENT. RIGHT. AND THAT'S NOT TO MINIMIZE THAT THEIR COSTS ARE INCREASING AS A PROVIDER BUT THAT'S DRIVING A LOT OF OUR COST INCREASE TOO IS THAT THE THE SUBSCRIPTIONS THE AGREEMENTS ARE ALL INCREASE IN I'D SAY PROBABLY WELL ABOVE CERTAINLY THE CPI IS RIGHT AND SO WE'RE A LITTLE WORRIED ABOUT THAT IN THE FUTURE TOO. COUNCILMEMBER LIMIT THANK YOU MAYOR. YOU KNOW THANK YOU FOR THE DEEP DOVE SAME CUSTOMER NELSON THE CONCERN BECAUSE I WAS GOING TO SAY THAT SO I DON'T WANT TO SAY THAT NOW YOU KNOW AS WE LOOK AT LOOK AT THIS BUDGET AND I GUESS THE QUESTION I HAVE IS THAT FROM A STAFFING PERSPECTIVE AND WE LOOK AT THE CHALLENGES THAT YOU HAVE LAID OUT AND UNDERSTANDING THAT, YOU KNOW, I MEAN THERE'S YOU KNOW, THERE'S A CONSTRAINT IN TERMS OF WHAT YOU'VE GOT TO DO BUT IF SOMETHING CATASTROPHIC HAPPENS THAT KIND OF CHANGES THE ENTIRE CALCULUS COMPLETELY AROUND THOSE THOSE CHALLENGES . AND SO WHAT I'M TRYING TO UNDERSTAND AS A POLICYMAKER, YOU KNOW, IN TERMS OF THE POSITIONS THAT YOU'RE ASKING FOR, YOU KNOW, ARE ALL THE ONES THAT ARE ALIGNED IN THIS PARTICULAR BUDGET THAT WERE PRESENTED TODAY ARE THEY LONG TERM NEEDS TO MEET CHALLENGES OR ARE THERE HOLES IN THAT THAT STAFF THING MAYBE I'LL I'LL LEAVE IT AT THAT I'LL JUST DO FIRST QUESTION FIRST AND I'LL ASK MAYOR COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER THERE ARE LONG TERM NEEDS AS WE ADD PROGRAMS AND STAFF AND OTHER AREAS WE'RE ADDING MORE COMPLEXITY TO IT SO WE HAVE TO KEEP UP WITH THAT PACE. WE CAN'T REALLY EXPECT NEW EMPLOYEES TO COME IN WITH NEW NEW PROGRAMS, NEW NEEDS AND SAY YOU DON'T HAVE TO SERVICES TO SUPPORT THE PROGRAMS THAT YOU'RE THAT YOU NEED TO DO. SO THAT ISN'T CHANGING RIGHT NOW WE'RE ADDING NEW PROGRAMS. WE NEED TO CONTINUE TO KEEP UP THAT PACE AND AND QUITE FRANKLY WE'RE AT WE'RE AT A A PACE RIGHT NOW THAT WE CAN'T SUSTAIN FOR IT. SO IT'S WE JUST NEED TO KEEP MOVING FORWARD AS FAR AS STAFFING GOES AND THEN IN TERMS OF RISKS THAT ARE IN THE FUTURE, YOU KNOW, IF I IF I KNOW IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THAT BUDGET THERE AND YOU WERE TO CONSTRUCT I KNOW THIS IS DANGEROUS TO ASK THIS QUESTION BUT I'M GOING TO ASK IT ANYWAYS BECAUSE LOOK AT THOSE CHALLENGES AND THOSE CHALLENGES ARE REAL THAT ARE OUT THERE, YOU KNOW IN TERMS OF YOU KNOW WHAT THAT LOOKS LIKE DOWN THE ROAD TWO OR THREE YEARS I KNOW IT CAN CHANGE YOU KNOW IN TERMS OF POSITIONING OURSELVES TO BE ABLE TO TO ADDRESS THOSE CONCERNS, WOULD YOU SUGGEST THAT WE WOULD NEED TO TO LOOK YOU KNOW, IF THERE AGAIN, THERE'S NO YOU KNOW THERE'S NO BUDGET THERE WOULD YOU ADD ADDITIONAL POSITIONS TO HAVE US BETTER POSITIONED FOR THOSE POTENTIAL CHALLENGES THAT ARE OUT THERE? IF YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M ASKING, I DO. MAYOR COUNCILMEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER LORNE LOWMAN I I I THINK THE CHALLENGES ARE ALWAYS GOING TO BE THERE AND THEY'RE ALWAYS GOING TO BE EVOLVING. WE CAN'T TAKE A CHANCE ON CYBER. SO THAT IS SOMETHING THAT YOU KNOW, WHATEVER DO WE HAVE TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE COVERED IN THAT WAY SO AND AND SAME WITH OFFERING SERVICES IF WE'RE FALLING BEHIND WITH OUR TECHNOLOGY WE'RE NOT ABLE TO OFFER THE SERVICES THAT OUR RESIDENTS HAVE COME TO EXPECT. SO I SEE IT EVOLVING AND I DON'T SEE THAT WE'RE EVER GOING TO BE ABLE TO LIGHT UP, SO TO SPEAK. DOES THAT ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? YEAH. SO PRETTY MUCH YOU'RE TELLING ME AS A STRAP IN HERE WE GO. IT'S GOING TO BE A LITTLE EXCITING. NO, I HEAR YOU. SO YEAH. SO I MEAN THAT SCARES ME A LITTLE BIT. YOU KNOW THAT YOU KNOW THAT WE NEED TO NEED THAT PIECE AND SO YOU KNOW THIS IS WHAT WE NEED TODAY BUT WE'RE GOING TO PROBABLY NEED MORE AS IT GOES ALONG. I'M JUST KYLE IS ITCHING TO SAY SOMETHING BUT MAYBE YOU WANT TO SEE HE'S ESPECIALLY AROUND THE CYBERSECURITY. I THINK HE'S GOT A REALLY GOOD UNDERSTANDING OF WHERE WE COULD POTENTIALLY FAIL. WE DON'T CONTINUE TO INVEST IN THAT. SO I DON'T KNOW KYLE ARE YOU WERE YOU INTENT TO SAY SOMETHING? I JUST WANTED TO SAY WITH THAT WE LEVERAGING A LOT OF SERVICES FROM THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. WE DEFINITELY WORK WITH TWO DIVISIONS OF HOMELAND SECURITY WHICH IS THE CYBERSECURITY INFRASTRUCTURE AND SECURITY AGENCY. SO CSA AND EMSISOFT ISAC WHICH IS THE MULTI-STATE INFORMATION SHARING ANALYSIS. SO WE'RE DOING OUR BEST TO TRY TO KEEP UP WITH THAT SECURITY AND FIRST OUR SECURITY MODEL THAT IS THAT IS OUT THERE AND STAY WITHIN INDUSTRY BEST PRACTICES BUT WITHOUT SOME OF THIS ADDITIONAL STAFFING ESPECIALLY LIKE THE NETWORK ADMINISTRATOR THAT'S THAT'S IN THIS WE'RE GOING TO CONTINUE TO FALL BEHIND AND TO BE ABLE TO ADDRESS THE SECURITY NEEDS IN A TIMELY MANNER AND NOT PUT THEIR ORGANIZATIONS INFORMATION AT RISK. IT IT'S A NEED MORE AND I'D SAY AT WHAT YOU ALL RIGHT COUNSEL ANYTHING ELSE OTHERWISE WE SHOULD GET MOVING . IT'S GETTING THE HOURS GETTING LATE AGAIN IF I IF I MAY, MR. MAYOR JUST TO TIE THIS ONE UP IF COUNCIL DOESN'T HAVE ADDITIONAL QUESTIONS I THINK THIS IS ONE JUST FROM A BOTH A POLICY AND JUST AN UNDERSTANDING PERSPECTIVE THAT SOMETIME EARLY NEXT YEAR OR MID-NEXT YEAR WE WANT TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME JUST GOING DEEPER INTO THE I.T INFRASTRUCTURE OF THE CITY AND IN HOW WE DELIVER THE SERVICES BECAUSE YOU KNOW THOSE FOUR YEARS ARE GOING TO FLY PRETTY QUICKLY RIGHT THEN AND I WILL SAY THAT THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME THAT THIS FUND HAS HAD FLASHING RED LIGHTS ON IT. WE HAVE TAPPED INTO FUND OVERAGES IN THE PAST AND TRANSFERRED INTO THE IT FUND TO SHORE IT UP IN THE PAST THAT MAY BE AN OPTION OBVIOUSLY WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO LOOK AT A LOT OF DIFFERENT THINGS BUT JUST THE YOU KNOW, THE STRUCTURE OF OUR CHARGES AND EVERYTHING ELSE I THINK IS SOMETHING WE'LL WANT TO SPEND A LITTLE BIT OF TIME ON NEXT YEAR. I WOULD AGREE WITH THAT AND THANK YOU FOR THAT, MR. BERGER. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA AND I DO HAVE ONE MORE NOTE BEFORE AMY STEPS AWAY FROM US YOU KNOW, IT'S COMING RIGHT SO FORTUNATELY I DO. YEAH. SO WE JUST LEARNED ON THURSDAY ACTUALLY THAT AMY AS A FINALIST FOR THE GOLDEN GLOVE IT AWARD IN THE INDIVIDUAL LEADERSHIP CATEGORY IN AWARD ANNOUNCEMENT IS GOING TO HAPPEN DECEMBER 14TH AT THE GOVERNMENT I.T SYMPOSIUM AND I THINK IT'S A WONDERFUL RECOGNITION OF THE LEADERSHIP THAT AMY PROVIDES WITHIN OUR NOT JUST FOR THE TECHNOLOGY NEEDS OF ALL OF OUR EMPLOYEES BUT AS A MEMBER OF OUR EXECUTIVE LEADERSHIP TEAM SHE SHE PROVIDES TREMENDOUS LEADERSHIP THROUGHOUT OUR ORGANIZATION JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT. SO CONGRATULATIONS CONGRATULATIONS IT'S VERY COOL THEN AND I AM 5.3 ON OUR AGENDA AND THIS IS A DISCUSSION OF OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DEPARTMENT BUDGET AND OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR KARLA IS HERE GOOD EVENING. WELCOME. GOOD EVENING. WELCOME MR. MAYOR AND MEMBERS OF COUNCIL I HAVE A VERY BRIEF OH YEAH THAT'S THEY ALL SAY NO I LEARNED LAST TIME I PRESENTED THE FIRE STATION YOU SO THAT WAS A VERY DETAILED PRESENTATION I WAS LIKE DULY NOTED OKAY SO I'M HERE TO PRESENT AND THE 2024 BUDGET FOR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT AND JUST AMY PROVIDED HERE IS OUR AGENDA SO I DON'T TO GO OVER THAT SOBOUT KARI WAS GNG TO BE UP HERE HELPING BUT SHE GA ME NOTES S HERE'SHE 24 2024 BUDGET RUEST FOR COMMUNITYEVELOPMENT T GENERAL FUNDOMPARED T THE 23 BUDGET ONE NOTE IN E REVENUEECTION IS THATHE MAJORITY OF E PERMANENT REVENUE IS BUDGETED THE GENERAL FUND LEVEL AS OPPOSED TO A THE COMMUNITY DEVEPMENT LEVEL. IT'S NOT TT WE'RE NOT EARNING THE MONEY YOU GUYS TAKE CREDIT FOR IT SOMEWHERE ELSE AND SO THE OVERALL EXPENSE INCREASE IS AN INCREASE OF 2.55% AND HERE IS THE DEPARTMENT WE'RE STAFFED RIGHT NOW ABOUT 75 PEOPLE WE HAVE ABOUT 5 TO 6 VACANCIES. THIS DOES INCLUDE THE HRA AND PORT AS. YOU ALL KNOW THAT'S A SEPARATE BUDGET AND WE I LIKE TO SAY THAT WE HAVE FIVE DIVISIONS AND TWO AUTHORITIES SO REALLY A FEW BUDGET INCREASES MAINLY WE NEEDED TO COME UP WITH SUCCESSION PLAN. DUKE JOHNSON OUR BUILDING OFFICIAL DISCOVERED THAT PARE HAD A PHASED RETIREMENT AND SHOWED IN MY OFFICE THAT AFTERNOON AND WAS LIKE HEY HOW DO I MAKE THIS HAPPEN? SO HE IS ACTUALLY WORKING FOUR DAYS A WEEK RIGHT NOW? OH SOR THREE AND A HALF AND HE WILL BE GOING TO THREE DAYS IN 2024 AND HE IS PHASING HIMSELF OUT. SO I TALKED TO OUR CITY MANAGER CREATING AND THE ASSISTANT BUILDING OFFICIAL WE DID PROMOTE SOMEBODY WITHIN AND SO THEY ARE SPENDING A LOT OF TIME TOGETHER AND THE GOAL IS THAT ONCE DUKE IS FINALLY PHASED OUT THAT WE WILL HAVE A NEW BUILDING OFFICIAL AND THEN THE OTHER BIG INCREASE WE HAVE IS A NUMBER OF OUR ITEMS FOR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES AND ALTHOUGH THE PROFESSIONAL SERVICES INCREASED BY $43,000 IN THESE AREAS IT'S ABOUT 20,000 A PIECE. THE NET IMPACT TO THE OVERALL BUDGET WAS LESSENED BY A DECREASE IN THE ASSESSING DIVISION WE A SUBSCRIPTION FOR TREPP AND SO THAT WAS ASSESSING AND OUR PORT AND OUR GENERAL FUND ASSESSING COST WAS $23,250 SO IT WAS A RATHER EXPENSIVE SUBSCRIPTION THAT WE WILL NOT HAVE TO HAVE IT SUPPORT ANYMORE AND. YEAH SO WE PUT THAT KIND OF INTO OUR PROFESSIONAL SERVICES MAINLY WITH OUR LANGUAGE ACCESS PLAN. WE ARE STILL WONDERING IF WE WILL HAVE TO NEED OUTSIDE LEGAL COUNSEL FOR OUR SIGN ORDINANCE AS WELL AS WORKING OUT THE OPERATIONS OF THE SMALL BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT CENTER AND THEN JUST WORK WITH OUR CD TEAM. AND SO NEW INITIATIVES WE'VE TALKED ABOUT THIS WE ARE HOPING TO HAVE IT OPEN IN LATE 24 AND MR. MAYOR, COUNCIL MEMBERS COUNCILMEMBER NELSON WE HAVE BAKED OUR I.T CAPITAL INTO THAT BUDGET SO IT WILL NOT BE IN THE ACT BUT AND THEN AS YOU ALL KNOW WE WILL BE KICKING OFF HATCH BLOOMINGTON SHAWN LUNDY IS WORKING DILIGENTLY WITH THE CHAMBER STAFF. I WILL I DON'T EVEN KNOW IF IT'S ANYTHING SO WE HAVE YOU A TIMELINE OF ANNOUNCING IN JANUARY THE CHAMBER WOULD LIKE TO ANNOUNCE IT AT THEIR ANNUAL MEETING IN MARCH AND WHAT JONATHAN Y HAGAN HAS SAID TO ME IS THAT THEY USUALLY CALL IT THE MSP REGIONAL CHAMBER BUT HE WOULD LIKE TO CALL IT THE MSP AND THE B STANDING FOR BLOOMINGTON. HE SAID WE COULD HAVE A LOT OF FUN WITH SO STAY TUNED FOR THAT AND WANTED TO TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT SOME OF THE CHALLENGES TERMS OF OUR CONSTRUCTION PERMIT REVENUE AS YOU KNOW WE HAD A GREAT YEAR IN 2020 TO IT WAS BETTER THAN AVERAGE WE HAD LOT OF PEOPLE WORKING FROM HOME THAT WANTED TO DO BUILD OUTS. WE HAD A NUMBER OF MULTIFAMILY DEVELOPMENT PROJECTS HIRE INTEREST RATES, ENCOURAGED HOMEOWNERS TO STAY PUT AND DO THESE REMODELS AND TURNING THEIR OFFICE THEIR HOME OFFICE SPACES AND SO OUR REVENUE THAT YOU WILL SEE AS ELSEWHERE THE BUDGET AS I DESCRIBED IS LOWER THAN IT HAS BEEN IN THE LAST YEARS AND THAT'S BECAUSE OF INCREASED COSTS ON CONSTRUCTION MATERIAL, LABOR SHORTAGE AND THE INTEREST RATE INCREASES AND THAT IS IT OUT THERE FOR ANY QUESTION OF I JUST WANT TO SUMMARIZE AGAIN MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS THAT AFTER LOOKING AT A NUMBER OF BUDGETS WHERE WE SEE INCREASES THAT REALLY YOU KNOW, CHALLENGING IT'S TO SEE ONE WHERE WE HAVE A 2% INCREASE FOR THE FOUR FROM ONE YEAR TO THE NEXT SO APPRECIATE THE WORK THAT OUR TEAM IN COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DID AND OUR COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT DIRECTOR AND PUTTING TOGETHER THIS BUDGET I WOULD AGREE ALSO QUESTIONS COUNCILMEMBER WASN'T JUST MORE OF A COMMENT WELL-PLACED I LIKE I WAS LOOKING ON WELL LAST ONE AND THEN THIS ONE WELL PLEASE CITY MANAGER NO QUESTIONS ASKED SO WELL DONE THANK YOU THANK YOU SO MUCH. I SET THE PRESSURE FOR THIS AND OUR LAST I THINK THIS IS OUR LAST DEPARTMENTAL BUDGET DISCUSSION FOR THE YEAR AND WE WILL CALL ON OUR LEGAL DEPARTMENT I AM 5.4 MS. AMANDA SHADE RIGHT RIGHT RIGHT. YEAH. GOOD EVENING. I GOT OUT OF THE PODIUM NO. OKAY. NOT I LIKE TO SPREAD OUT. I GOT A LOT OF STUFF HERE. ALL RIGHT, MAYOR REMEMBERS TONIGHT I'M NOT ALONE HERE. I'VE GOT SOME OTHER FOLKS HERE WITH ME. WE'VE GOT OUR COMPLIANCE AMIR BACK THERE. YOU RECOGNIZE HIM FROM PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS AND THEN OH THERE YOU GO. JENNIFER AND PETER DEPUTIES ARE OUT THERE AS WELL SO I'M GOING TO DO THE TALKING AND THEN IF YOU ASK QUESTIONS THAT I'M THAT I WANT TO CALL ON THEM TO ANSWER THEY'LL THEY'LL WANDER UP HERE. WE ALL APPRECIATE THAT WE'RE STANDING IN FRONT OF ADJOURNMENT SO WITH THAT IN MIND WILL MORAN HERE IS A VERY LONG MISSION STATEMENT THAT WE HAVE THAT WE DEVELOPED COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. IT'S VERY LONG NOT AS MEMORABLE AS OURS ESSENTIALLY I WILL SAY WE ARE AN IN-HOUSE LEGAL DEPARTMENT BLOOMINGTON HAS I'VE NEVER ACTUALLY LOOKED TO SEE HOW LONG IT'S BEEN THAT WE'VE HAD AN IN-HOUSE LEGAL DEPARTMENT BUT I'VE MET MANY OF OUR PREVIOUS IN-HOUSE ATTORNEYS SO I'M GUESSING A VERY LONG TIME AND BLOOMINGTON IS ONE OF FOUR CITIES IN HENNEPIN COUNTY THAT HAD THAT HAVE IN-HOUSE LEGAL MINNETONKA GOLDEN VALLEY MINNEAPOLIS AND US AND THEN FOR IN-HOUSE PROSECUTION MAPLE GROVE MINNETONKA BLOOMINGTON IN MINNEAPOLIS SO WE ARE UNIQUE SLIGHTLY IN THAT REGARD BUT NOT TERRIBLY UNIQUE IN MY OPINION GIVEN OUR SIZE. WE MEET THROUGH THE LEAGUE OF MINNESOTA CITIES WITH THE IN-HOUSE COUNSEL ATTORNEYS THROUGHOUT THE STATE OF MINNESOTA AND. IT'S A FULL CALL AND THOSE FOLKS ARE SPREAD THROUGHOUT THE STATE OFTENTIMES IN CHARTER CITIES. SO WITH THAT IN MIND, OUR IS THE SAME AS THE ONES YOU'VE SEEN BEFORE IN THE PREVIOUS PRESENTATIONS. I HAVE TWO KEY TAKEAWAYS FOR YOU TONIGHT AND FRANKLY I WROTE THEM BEFORE AMY CHANEY'S PRESENTATION SO BEAR THAT IN MIND EVERY YEAR THE VOLUME OF OUR WORK THE DATA COMING INTO OUR OFFICE INCREASES IN SOME CASES I WAS LOOKING OVER THE DATA AGAIN IN PREPARATION FOR TONIGHT. IT'S BEEN ALMOST A DOUBLING SINCE 20 TO 2020 A DOUBLING OF THE WORK WE ARE NEAR A THOUSAND CONTRACTS THAT WE PROCESS PROCESSED THROUGH THE OFFICE AND MANY OTHER INCREASES IN THE VOLUME OF WORK THAT WE'RE DOING. SO THAT'S THE ONE KEY TAKEAWAY FOR YOU AND RELATED TO THAT IT'S INCREASINGLY COMPLEX AND INCREASINGLY DIGITAL. SECOND TAKEAWAY THAT I WANT YOU TO TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT OUR STAFFING MODEL AND I KNOW EVERYONE COMES UP HERE AND SAYS OUR STAFFING MODELS LEAN I'M TELLING YOU WERE LEAN WERE SUPER LEAN AND LEGAL AND HAVE TO OUTSOURCE WHEN WE HAVE PINCH POINTS BECAUSE WE'RE NOT ABLE TO MANAGE THE WORKFLOW WHEN WE HAVE NEW INPUTS AND IN ORDER TO MANAGE THAT WORKFLOW IN THE VOLUME WE RELY HEAVILY ON TECHNOLOGY WE HAVE CREATED AND A FAIR AMOUNT OF MONEY CREATING INTEGRATIONS WITH OUR JUSTICE PARTNERS BOTH INTERNALLY AND EXTERNALLY SO THAT WE CAN SEND AND RECEIVE DIGITAL INFORMATION ALL ENTIRELY AUTOMATED SO. THAT'S GREAT AND WONDERFUL AND IT WORKS GREAT WHEN IT'S ALL WORKING GREAT AND THEN SOMETIMES OUR JUSTICE PARTNERS CHANGE THEIR MINDS AND SO OUR ABILITY TO CONTROL THAT IN THE IMPACT WHEN THOSE SYSTEMS GO DOWN OR WHEN THEY CHANGE IS PRETTY SIGNIFICANT. WE'RE IN THE MIDST OF ONE RIGHT NOW THAT WE WERE TOLD THAT GOING TO HAPPEN FOR A WHILE AND THEN SORT OF NOTHING WAS HAPPENING AND THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN WE GOT AN EMAIL THAT SAID NEXT MONTH THEY'RE TURNING IT OFF AND SO JUST TODAY ALL 75 COUNTY ATTORNEYS SENT A LETTER TO THE TO THE CHIEF JUDGE AND SAID, HEY, THIS ISN'T WORKING. SO THE IMPACT IS SIGNIFICANT AND WHEN YOU RUN LEAN WE'RE ALL WE HAVE A SIGN IN THE OFFICE THAT SAYS ATTITUDE OF GRATITUDE THAT SAYS THINGS WE'RE GRATEFUL FOR. AND ONE OF THEM IS WHEN THIS PARTICULAR DATABASE IS WORKING . SO THAT'S THAT'S THE IMPACT OF TECHNOLOGY ON US. ALL RIGHT. NEXT SLIDE THIS IS OUR HIGH LEVEL BUDGET. BASICALLY WE WE HAVE SALARIES AND THEN WE HAVE INTERNAL SERVICE CHARGES WHICH IS ALL THE TECH STUFF THAT YOU ALL WERE TALKING ABOUT EARLIER AND THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL IS THE PUBLIC SAFETY FUNDING THAT THAT WAS PREVIOUSLY PROVIDED INFORMATION TO A LITTLE BIT AGO AND I'LL GET INTO MORE DETAIL TONIGHT NEXT SLIDE HERE IS OUR ORGANIZATION WE HAVE FOUR MANAGERS, THREE AND A HALF STAFF POSITIONS ARE ASSISTING ON THE CIVIL SIDE OF THINGS THAT ARE REPORTING TO PETER NINE ARE REPORTING TO JENNIFER ON THE CRIMINAL TEAM AND THE THERE'S A PARALEGAL THAT ASSISTS ON THE COMPLIANCE SIDE AND THERE IS A LITTLE BIT OF STAFF SUPPORT WE SHARE THE RISK AND LITIGATION MANAGER 60% IN FINANCE WE HAVE 40% OF THAT POSITION'S TIME AND LEGAL OUR REQUEST GO TO NEXT SLIDE IS THAT BLUE BOX THERE BOTH OF OUR BUDGET INCREASES AND I PUT IT IN QUOTES IS THERE IS THIS INTERGOVERNMENTAL TRANSFER THAT'S HAPPENING AND THERE ARE COSTS ASSOCIATED WITH THEM BUT WE'RE FUNDING THEM THROUGH THE PUBLIC SAFETY FUNDING AND WHAT WE'RE EXPERIENCING IS A AS I MENTIONED, A SIGNIFICANT INCREASE IN DISCOVERY IF YOU THINK ABOUT ALL OF THE NEW RING CAMERAS THAT HAVE GONE IN ALL THE NEW BODY CAMERAS THAT ARE FOLKS WEARING ALL OF THE NEW PARKING LOT CAMERAS EVERYWHERE YOU LOOK MORE DIGITAL DATA BEING CREATED ALL THE TIME AND WE HAVE WE HAVE WE HAVE A STATUTORY OBLIGATION TO PRODUCE THAT IN LITIGATION PROCESS. SO BECAUSE OF THAT WE HAVE WE HAVE AN AUTOMATED PROCESS AND WE DO OUR BEST TO DATA AROUND BUT THERE'S JUST A LOT OF IT. SO WHEN JUST TO GIVE YOU A SNAPSHOT 2020 WE HAD 9000 ITEMS APPROXIMATELY AND 2024 WE HAD ESTIMATED IN JULY THAT WE'D HAVE 30,000 ITEMS. WE ALREADY KNOW THAT THAT NUMBERS ARE ON IS HIGHER THAN THAT. IT'S GOING TO BE HIGHER THAN THAT BECAUSE WE'RE I BELIEVE JENNIFER, WE'RE ALREADY OVER THAT AMOUNT IN 2023. SO WE WERE COREY AND JENNIFER AND I WERE JOKING A LITTLE BIT LIKE SORT OF WHAT'S THE RIGHT WORD TO USE? IS THERE A BIGGER WORD THAN EXPONENTIAL YIELD? AND WE LANDED ON EXPONENTIAL BUT WE'RE SEEING I WANT TO SAY IT'S FIVE FOLD GROWTH IT'S JUST HUGE AND WE NEED ANOTHER PERSON TO DO THE WORK RIGHT NOW WE HAVE A FULL TIME PERSON IN THE ON THE CRIMINAL TEAM AND THEN WE BORROW HALF TIME OF SOMEONE ON THE CIVIL TEAM. WE JUST NEED ANOTHER HUMAN BEING TO DO THE WORK. COUNCILMEMBER IF IT'S OKAY IF TO ASK REALLY QUICKLY I THINK IT'S JUST A QUICK WHEN YOU SAY DISCOVERY REQUEST PROCESSING HOW MUCH OF THAT DISCOVERY REQUESTING IS RELATED TO VOICE STYLE REQUESTS OR PUBLIC REQUESTS VERSUS ENTER LIKE LEGAL REQUESTS FROM FROM YOU KNOW, COURT AND OTHER THINGS LIKE THAT? ALL OF THIS IS PROSECUTION CRIMINAL CASES, RIGHT? YEAH THE SECOND BULLET POINT IS ALSO RELATED TO CRIMINAL PROSECUTION. THIS IS A RESTORATIVE COURT. A COUPLE OF YEARS AGO WE WERE SUCCESSFUL IN STANDING UP OUR BLOOMINGTON'S OWN RESTORATIVE COURT WHICH MIGHT NOT KNOW ABOUT THIS THE COUNTY OF HENNEPIN IS THAT YOU WILL HAVE DIFFERENT OPTIONS IF YOU COMMIT A CRIME BASED ON THE JURISDICTION THAT YOU COMMITTED IN BLOOMINGTON IS ONE OF JUST A COUPLE OF CITIES THAT HAS STOOD UP A RESTORATIVE COURT AND SO YOU WILL HAVE MORE OPTIONS TO FIX THE REST OF YOUR LIFE IF THAT HAPPENS IN BLOOMINGTON WE HAVE SEEN AN INCREASE IN THE KINDS OF CASES THAT OUR PROSECUTORS HANDLE WHICH ARE MISDEMEANORS, GROSS MISDEMEANORS AND PETTY AND MANY OF THEM AN INCREASE IN THE LAGING EXCUSE ME GROWING NUMBER OF THEM ARE ARE THE TYPES OF CRIMES THAT QUALIFY FOR RESTORATIVE SO IN 2023 WE WE SORT OF MAXED OUT OUR OUR HENNEPIN COUNTY CASEWORKER ASSIGNED A RESTORATIVE COURT AND WE DON'T WANT TO TURN PEOPLE AWAY. AND SO WE TALKED TO THE COUNTY JENNIFER, DID A BUNCH OF WORK AND WE PULLED TOGETHER A COMPELLING ARGUMENT TO HIRE ANOTHER EMPLOYEE, ANOTHER COUNTY EMPLOYEE AND WE PROPOSED TO DO TO PAY OUR MATCH REQUIREMENT WITH PUBLIC SAFETY. NEXT SLIDE. ALL RIGHT. SO I MENTIONED BRIEFLY NEW INITIATIVES. A COUPLE OF THINGS TO HAVE ON YOUR RADAR THIS CONTRACT MANAGEMENT WE'VE BEEN DEPLOYING OUR HOPE AND GOAL IS THAT AMONG OTHER THINGS IT WILL BE MORE INTUITIVE. THERE WILL BE LESS SORT OF MICRO DECISION MAKING THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN AT THE STAFF LEVEL. IT WILL BE MORE EFFICIENT FOR EVERYBODY INCLUDING LEGAL. BUT THE MAIN TARGET AUDIENCE IS OUR THE REST OF THE REST OF ALL THE OTHER DEPARTMENTS. AND SO WE HOPE THAT IT WILL IMPROVE THE WORKFLOW AND INCREASE THE IMPACT IMPROVE THE PRODUCT COMING INTO OUR DEPARTMENT TO LESSEN ARE TOUCH TOUCHES ON THESE CONTRACTS FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T KNOW WE HAVE AN ENTIRE AUTOMATED PROCESS. WE HAVE TEMPLATES THAT WE USE MANY, MANY, MANY TEMPLATES AND WE ANNUALLY REVIEW THEM TO ENSURE THAT THEY'RE STILL MEETING OUR STATUTORY AS WELL AS THE NEEDS OF OUR OUR STAFF . THE NEXT ONE IS OUR ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING OFFICER PROGRAM. WE HAVE A LAYER OF OF JUSTICE WITHIN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON THAT IS GROWING. WE HAVE MADE SOME CHANGES TO CREATE MORE PROCESS THAT'S DRIVING INTO OUR ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING OFFICER LAYER OF JUSTICE WITHIN THE CITY. SO FOR EXAMPLE, SOME EMPLOYMENT MATTERS ARE NOW GOING TO ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING OFFICERS AS OPPOSED TO GOING AWAY TO SAINT PAUL AND BEING HANDLED THERE FRANKLY IT'S A POPULAR APPROACH. IT'S MORE IT'S MORE APPROACHABLE IT'S MORE MANAGEABLE WERE MORE ABLE TO BE NIMBLE AND TO HELP PEOPLE FEEL COMFORTABLE IN THE EXPERIENCE WE DO THEM HERE OFTENTIMES RIGHT NOW OUR PANEL OF HEARING OFFICERS IS SMALLER THAN I'D AND EVERY YEAR I CERTIFY A LIST OF PANEL MEMBERS TO RECOMMENDATION TO JAMIE AND THEN HE ACTS ON IT AND I WANT TO GROW THAT I INTEND TO ISSUE AN RFQ IN DECEMBER AND GROW THAT HEARING OFFICER POOL. AND SO WITH THAT WE'RE WE'RE TO HAVE MORE THINGS COMING IN . WE ALSO ARE SEEING I WANT TO SAY TWO HEARINGS A WEEK WHICH IS AN ACTUAL DOUBLING OF WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST THAT I'VE BEEN HERE. SO MORE FOLKS ARE APPEALING THEIR CITATIONS AND THEY'RE GOING THROUGH THE HEARING OFFICER PROGRAM. FRANKLY, AMIR IS HANDLING THEM NOW, MANY OF THEM THE CODE ENFORCEMENT HEARINGS AND HE HEWO A WEEKS YOULL KNOW THERE WAS MAN MANY, MANY TNGS THAT WER CHANGED DURING THE LAS LEGISLATIVE SESSIO AND WE'RE STI CATCHING UP ONLL OF THOSE AND SE OF THEM HAV A DEYED STARTATE NEEDO EDIT PICIES AND TAK THINGS AND WE'RE MOVING THROUGH THAT. I PUT GUIDANCE O THERE. I FEEL LIKE YOU'RE GET AN EMAIL EVERY DAY ABOUT WHAT WE'RE GOING TO DO ABOUT A.I. AND HOW WE CAN LEVERAGE AI AND WHAT DO WE NEED TO BE WORRIED ABOUT IT WITH A.I. AND ALL THE REST. SO IT'S IT JUST FELT TO ME LIKE I NEED TO LEAN INTO THAT AND, FIGURE OUT WHAT WE NEED TO DO AS AN ORGANIZATION WITH REGARD TO A.I. SO THAT'S THAT'S THERE WE HAVE A LOT OF INTERNAL WORKFLOWS THAT ARE CAN BE IMPROVED FOR EFFICIENCY AND I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT TO TAKE A LOOK AT THAT AND FIGURE OUT WAYS WE CAN INTEGRATE OUR PROCESS THROUGHOUT THE ORGANIZATION AND MAKE IT CLEAR FOR PEOPLE THE STEPS THAT THEY NEED TO DO IN ORDER TO BE IN COMPLIANCE WITH OUR POLICIES AND OUR REQUIREMENTS AND THE SECOND TO LAST BULLET HERE IS SOMETHING THAT I STARTED WORKING ON THIS YEAR AND FRANKLY REALIZED I WAS NOT PREPARED ENOUGH TO DO THE WORK . SO I'VE BEEN SPENDING THIS YEAR GETTING SMARTER ABOUT TRIBAL LINE AND GOVERNMENT TO GOVERNMENT RELATIONS AND WE HOPE TO PUT IN PLACE FRANKLY I'M TRYING TO CONVINCE THE STATE WITH PETER'S ASSISTANCE TO LET US USE THEIR PROGRAM THAT THEY'VE ALREADY ROLLED OUT BUT IF THEY DON'T WE'LL FIGURE OUT SOMETHING ELSE. SO WE WANT TO CREATE SOME MORE KNOWLEDGE, AWARENESS AND DEPTH OF UNDERSTANDING THAT WE CAN ALL DO OUR JOB BETTER HERE IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON AND . THEN FINALLY THIS IS WHAT I REFERENCED BEFORE ISN'T THIS IS JUST BLOOMINGTON ALREADY HAS ONE. BUT WHAT I REALLY THINK SHOULD HAPPEN IS THE COUNTY SHOULD HAVE A COUNTY WIDE RESTORATIVE COURT JUSTICE SHOULDN'T BE DIFFERENT BASED ON WHERE YOU COMMIT THE CRIME, YOUR OPTIONS SHOULD BE DIFFERENT AND SO I'VE ALREADY TALKED TO THE COUNTY ABOUT THIS A COUPLE TIMES AND I'M GOING TO KEEP WORKING ON AND HOPE TO ACCOMPLISH IT IN 2024. I THINK IT'LL IMPACT US THE POSITIVE AND WILL CERTAINLY SERVE AS A MODEL FOR OTHER COMMUNITIES LOOKS LIKE ALL RIGHT WE'RE GETTING CLOSE TO END HERE CHALLENGES WANT TO MAKE YOU AWARE OF THE OBVIOUS RIGHT? WE'RE RELYING ON SHORT TERM FUNDING FOR LONG TERM STAFFING NEEDS. WE HAVE STATUTORY OBLIGATIO THAT WE ARE MEETING ONE TIME MONEY. JAMIE AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS. LORIE AND I HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS. WE REALIZE WHAT'S HAPPENING. WE REALIZE WE'RE EASING TEMPORARILY THE IMPACT ON THE LEVEE AND WE NEED TO IN PLACE SOME PLANS TO ADDRESS WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN ON THE BACKSIDE WE WE TALK ABOUT ALL THE TIME SO WE'RE AWARE OF IT I'M NOT IGNORING THAT PROBLEM. THE OTHER THING I WANT TO POINT OUT IS SOME DEEP AWARENESS ABOUT THE RELIANCE ON GRANT FUNDING. SO WE RELY ON GRANTS FROM THE OFFICE OF JUSTICE PROGRAMS TO FUND OUR CRIME VICTIM LIAISON POSITION WHICH A STATUTORY OBLIGATION TO VICTIMS SO THAT THEY CAN FULLY PARTICIPATE IN THE JUSTICE PROCESS WE HAVE STATUTORY OBLIGATIONS TO MAKE THEM MAKE OPPORTUNITIES A PARTNERSHIP, MAKE THE VICTIMS ABLE TO PARTICIPATE IN THE JUSTICE PROCESS. WE SPEND A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF TIME REPORT AND TRACKING AND ALL KINDS OF FILING AND JUST A LOT TO GET THIS MONEY AND IT'S NOT VERY MUCH MONEY AND JAMIE AND I PERIODICALLY DISCUSS WHETHER IT'S WORTH IT TO CONTINUE TO APPLY THIS YEAR WE ASKED FOR ENOUGH TO FUND THE AND WE'VE AND WE WERE TOLD SORT OF EARLY ON THAT THERE GOING TO BE ENOUGH MONEY BECAUSE THERE WAS A LOT OF APPLICANTS AND THERE WASN'T ISN'T ENOUGH MONEY AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIND OTHER SOURCES TO FUND THE BALANCE OF THE POSITION. SO THE DANGER OF RELYING ON THESE GRANTS THAT THEY'RE UNPREDICTABLE AND AND YOU HAVE TO PIVOT QUICKLY AND SOMETIMES I YOU KNOW, I WONDER WHETHER IT'S WORTH ALL THE TIME THAT WE WE HAVE A PERSON IN FINANCE THAT WORKS ON THE REPORTING. WE HAVE A PERSON IN CIVIL THAT WORKS ON THE REPORTING. THE CRIME VICTIM LIAISON WORKS ON THE REPORTING. JEN THE DEPUTY CRIMINAL FOR PEOPLE WORKING ON REPORTING FOR ONE POSITION WHICH IS AND I THINK WE GOT $70,000 FOR IT SO I DON'T KNOW THAT THAT'S WORTH IT SOMETIMES. ALL RIGHT. THE OTHER THING IS THAT I MENTIONED THE VERY BEGINNING UNEXPECTED UNEXPECTED TECHNOLOGY CHANGES I'VE GOTTEN. I MENTIONED THIS ALREADY BUT YOU KNOW, WHEN THOSE THINGS OUT AND WE HAVE TO PIVOT QUICKLY OFTENTIMES WE AREN'T ABLE TO DO AND OUR PROCESS SLOWS DOWN, SCREECHES TO A HALT. PEOPLE DON'T GET THEIR STUFF DONE AND THE WAY THAT THEY WANT TO GET IT DONE, THE LEVEL THEY WANT TO GET IT DONE AND THERE'S A DANGER IN THAT THERE'S A DANGER TO THE JUSTICE SYSTEM. THERE'S A DANGER TO INDIVIDUAL VICTIMS AND WE'RE AWARE OF THAT AND WE'RE TRACKING THAT JENN'S TRACKING SPECIFIC SHE JUST SENT ME ONE TODAY SO JUST WANT TO PUT IT ON YOUR RADAR THE LAST THING IS SOMETHING THAT I MENTIONED EARLIER IN THIS THAT WE WE HAVE TO BE ABLE TO RELY ON OUTSIDE COUNSEL TO ASSIST US WE HAD A COUPLE OF INSTANCES RECENTLY WHERE ARE WE DO NOT WE GET WE WERE DENIED COVERAGE UNDER LEAGUE FOR OUR PARTICULAR LITIGATION AND NEEDED TO FURE OUT WHATO DO WE COBBL TOGETHER OUTSTANDG RESPONSES TO THAT HOWEVER IT WAS COMPLICATED AND AND VERY DISRUPTIVE TO OUR INTERNAL OPERATIONS BUT WE ALSO HAVE INTERNAL INVESTIGATIONS THAT HAPPENING . THEY'RE SORT OF ALWAYS HAPPENING THROUGHOUT AN ORGANIZATION OF OUR SIZE AND SOMETIMES IT'S MORE APPROPRIATE TO USE OUTSIDE COUNSEL TO DO THAT WORK. WE ALSO HAVE FOR EXAMPLE SOMEONE GO OUT ON LEAVE AND WHEN YOU'RE RUNNING AS LEAN WE HAD SOMEONE THAT WAS A KEY OF OUR ORGANIZATION, OUR WORKFLOW BE OUT FOR SEVERAL MONTHS AND WE HAD TO FILL IT WITH TEMP WORKERS IN ORDER JUST TO KEEP THINGS MOVING. AND THEN THE LAST THING I MENTIONED IS ADMINISTRATIVE HEARING OFFICERS THAT THAT WE BATCH OUT WE DO A LOT SOME OF THAT WORK INTERNALLY BUT WE ALSO HAVE AN OBLIGATION IN SOME INSTANCES TO USE OUTSIDE COUNSEL FOR THAT WORK. WE ARE GOING TO TRY SOMETHING DIFFERENT HOPEFULLY IN 2024 AND THAT WE'RE GOING TO ALLOW OUR SIDE A LOT BUT RETAIN ATTORNEYS AS WELL AS NEUTRALS HOPING THAT'LL INCREASE THE POOL AS WELL AS GET US VERY SIMILAR QUALITY RESULTS. NEXT SLIDE. ALL RIGHT. BEFORE I MOVE INTO THIS ESG UP EAST UPDATE, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE LEGAL BUDGET GENERALLY QUESTIONS COUNCIL ONWARD. ALL RIGHT. SO A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO YOU ASKED US TO PREPARE AN UPDATE FOR YOU ALL ON HOW THINGS ARE GOING. SO I PREPARED SORT OF WHAT WAS A CHRISTMAS CAROL THE PAST THE LIKE. SO IN THE PAST THERE WAS DIRECTION A TASK FORCE WAS CREATED AND THE ORDINANCE WAS PREPARED AND THEN IN JUNE OF 2022 YOU ARE ONE THAT YOU ALL EXACTLY BUT THE COUNCIL UNANIMOUSLY ADOPTED THE ORDINANCE AND THEN WE SET ABOUT TO HIRE SOME FOLKS WE HIRED TWO STAFF PEOPLE TO IMPLEMENT THE PROGRAM AND DO OTHER THINGS AS WELL WE WE WE HAVE CREATED SOME LARGE PROGRAMS IN OUR CODE WITHIN THE LAST COUPLE OF YEARS FOR EXAMPLE THE OPPORTUNITY HOUSING ORDINANCE AND THE ENFORCING OF THAT PARTICULAR ORDINANCE COMES THROUGH THE COMPLIANCE DIVISION AS WELL. SO JUST TO NOTE THAT AS THOSE PROGRAMS THE DEPLOYMENT OF FOR EXAMPLE GROWS COMPLIANCE WILL GROW, ENFORCEMENT WILL GROW THAT'S JUST ONE EXAMPLE. SO I DON'T WANT TO I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE YOU ALL WITH THE THOUGHT THAT THE FOLKS THESE TWO HIRES ARE ONLY DOING EARN SICK AND SAVE TIME. THEY'RE DOING OTHER THINGS AS WELL. ALL RIGHT. AND THEN WE DEPLOYED THE THE ORDINANCE WE HAD ADOPTED A RIGID INITIAL RULES ETHICS WERE DEVELOPED. WE DEVELOPED A QR CODE WHERE A DRIVER BUDDY TO A WEBSITE SO THAT WE CAN MAINTAIN SORT OF A NIMBLE PRESENCE AND TWEAK IT AS WE NEED TO. THERE WERE POSTERS PREPARED AND DISSEMINATED IN MULTIPLE LANGUAGES AND THEN THE OUTREACH AND EDUCATION HAS BEEN GOING ON MANY LETTERS WERE SENT THERE WERE SEVERAL BRIEFING STORIES. THERE WERE TRAININGS THAT OCCURRED AT THE MALL OF AMERICA FOR ALL OF ITS TENANTS. OVER 500 BUSINESSES WERE RECEIVED VISITS AND THEN WE MADE A MINOR TWEAK TO TO THE ORDINANCE TO ADDRESS SOME REPORTING REQUIREMENTS ON ON PAY STUBS THAT IMPROVED THE ORDINANCE AND MADE IT MORE CONSISTENT WITH WHAT WAS HAPPENING IN OTHER CITIES THAT HAD EARNED SICK AND SAFE LEAVE. SO IT OVERALL MADE COMPLIANCE EASIER FOR ENTITIES THAT EXISTED IN SEVERAL PLACES AND THEN AS YOU ALL KNOW, THE GOVERNOR SIGNED THE EARNED SICK AND SAFE TIME FOR THE STATE IN MAY OF THIS LAST YEAR. NEXT SLIDE SO WHAT'S BEEN HAPPENING CURRENTLY WE'VE BEEN CONTINUING WITH THE OUTREACH AND EDUCATION AS YOU ASKED US TO DO WHEN YOU ADOPTED THE ORDINANCE WANTED AN EMPHASIS ON EDUCATION AND OUTREACH IN THE BEGINNING BEFORE WE DID ENFORCEMENT. SO WE HAVE BEEN FOCUSED HEAVILY ON THAT ANSWERING A LOT OF CALLS AND EMAILS, A LOT OF INQUIRIES, DOING A LOT OF FACE TIME WITH FOLKS WALKING PLACE TO PLACE AND WE HAVE SET UP THE TRACKING SYSTEM TO TAKE IN COMPLAINTS AND INVESTIGATE AND ENFORCE AGAIN THAT'S ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THE TECHNOLOGY THAT'S BEEN DEPLOYED. WE ARE USING A PROGRAM CALLED SMART SHEETS TO DO THAT. WE TRIED TO USE A PROGRAM THAT WE HAD INTERNALLY AS PART OF THE SUITE OF APPLICATIONS THAT WE ALREADY OWN WHICH IS A PROCESS THAT ALL OF US ARE REQUIRED TO TAKE BEFORE WE ASK IT TO BUY ANY NEW PROGRAMS AND WE HAVE TO EXPLORE EXISTING PROGRAMS AND SEE IF WE CAN GET THERE FROM FROM THERE. AND SO THAT THAT HAPPENED AND THEN WE'VE BEEN ROLLING OUT SOME MULTIPLE LANGUAGES, SOME MATERIALS IN MULTIPLE LANGUAGES AND THEN SEPTEMBER YOU ALL ADOPTED THE SECOND AMENDMENT. NOW WE ALIGN THE STATE STATUTE AND THE BURDENS OF ANY SORT AMBIGUITY BETWEEN THE DIFFERENT VERSIONS IS BEEN ADDRESSED AND I JUST WANTED TO GIVE YOU A SENSE SORT OF ONE OF THE THINGS YOU KNOW WHEN YOU ALSO GO OUT AND TELL US HOW WE'RE DOING AMEER LORD AND I SAT DOWN AND SAID OKAY HOW CAN WE FIGURE OUT LIKE HOW IS THIS GOING RIGHT? LIKE WE'VE BEEN DOING THIS OUTREACH AND EDUCATION WHAT CAN WE DO SO THEY DID SOME SITE VISITS AND THIS IS THEY HAD 28 VISITS AND 11 POSSIBLE VIOLATIONS WERE FOUND SO. WE HAVE MORE OPPORTUNITY FOR ENHANCED COMPLIANCE WITH THE ORDINANCE AND IN THE FEEDBACK THAT THEY RECEIVED THE OVERWHELMING STATEMENT THAT SORT OF CAME ABOUT OUR TEAM CAME IN DURING THE COMBINED SAMPLING SAMPLING WAS THAT EMPLOYERS WANTED EVERYBODY TO BE SUBJECT TO THE SAME REQUIREMENTS RIGHT. YOU CAN'T HAVE ONE RESTAURANT ON THE SIDE OF THE FOOD COURT COMPLYING IN A RESTAURANT THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FOOD COURT NOT COMPLYING ESPECIALLY BECAUSE MANY OF THE FOOD COURT WORKERS WORK AT BOTH OF THOSE ESTABLISHMENTS. SO THE EMPLOYERS WANT A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD. WE ALSO CONDUCTED A SURVEY AND THE RESULTS ARE COMING IN HOT HERE THE OVER THE GENERAL RESPONSE WAS POSITIVE THEY ARE EXPERIENCING POSITIVE THEY A POSITIVE EXPERIENCE WITH HAVING SOME LOCAL PRESENCE AND GUIDANCE IN A PERSON THEY CAN PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL ALL THANK YOU SO THE NEXT STEPS THE STATEWIDE ORDINANCE IS EFFECTIVE OR STATEWIDE LAW RATHER IS EFFECTIVE IN JANUARY OF NEXT YEAR THEY ARE GOING TO BE DOING EDUCATION AND OUTREACH FOR THE MOST PART IN 2024 THEY DO NOT PLAN TO IMPOSE FINANCIAL PENALTIES UNTIL THE FOLLOWING YEAR. THE NOTE IS THAT I THINK IS INTERESTING HERE IN PARTICULAR IS THAT RULEMAKING GOING TO START UNTIL 2025 THAT'S GOING TO LEAVE A GAP IN COMPLIANCE AND, AN EDUCATION ON HOW TO HOW TO COMPLY SO IT'LL BE ESPECIALLY HELPFUL FOR OUR FOLKS HERE IN BLOOMINGTON THAT THEY ALREADY KNOW HOW TO COMPLY THE ORDINANCE ONE OF THE QUESTIONS YOU ALL HAD WAS SORT OF WHAT IS THE REQUIREMENT FOR STAFFING STATEWIDE LAW? WE DID QUITE A BIT OF RESEARCH ON THIS AND IT THAT THEY ARE THEY WILL HAVE A LARGER OFFICE OF INVESTIGATORS WITH FOUR DEDICATED YES TWO INVESTIGATORS FOR THE STATE OF MINNESOTA AND IT APPEARS THAT THEY USED THE SORT OF MATH THAT MINNEAPOLIS USED IN SETTING UP ITS CIVIL RIGHTS OFFICE SO THEY LOOKED AT THE NUMBER OF INVESTIGATORS, THE NUMBER OF CASES AND THE NUMBER OF CASES OF THE INVESTIGATORS THAT WERE SPECIFIC SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO EARNED SICK AND SAVE TIME. AND THEY HAVE A THEY HAVE A LOT OF THE MAJORITY OF THEIR CASES ARE IN SICK AND SAVE TIME IN MINNEAPOLIS. AND THEY LOOKED AT HOW MANY HOURS IT TAKES TO INVESTIGATE ONE ETC. ETC. AND THEY GREW THE DATA OUT FROM THAT FOR PAGES AND PAGES OF ANALYSIS AND THEY ULTIMATELY CAME UP WITH THE NUMBERS THAT THEY HAVE HERE WITH REGARD TO NEXT STEPS IN BLOOMINGTON HERE WE WANT TO UPDATE OUR INITIAL RULES TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE RECURRING THAT WE'RE SEEING AND TAKE SOME FROM YOU WITH REGARD TO ANY NEXT STEPS THAT YOU REQUEST OF US TONIGHT. CHRISTOPHER COUNCIL MEMBERS JUST TO WRAP UP THE LAST DISCUSSION POINTS HERE WERE SORT OF THE SALIENT ONES WHEN WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE LEGAL BUDGET THAT WAS THE FOLLOW UP TO THE COUNCIL QUESTION ABOUT YOU KNOW, WHAT IT MEANS FOR THE CITY THAT THE STATE HAS ADOPTED HERE SO AS TO MY RECOMMENDATION IS THAT WE STICK WITH OUR CURRENT ORDINANCE, WE STICK WITH OUR CURRENT STAFFING AND THE REASON IS BASED LARGELY IN THE TIMING THAT YOU'VE SEEN THAT THEY'RE NOT GOING TO REALLY START ACTIVE ENFORCEMENT UNTIL 2025. THEY STILL HAVE TO GO THROUGH A RULEMAKING PROCESS. YOU MIGHT RECALL THAT WE HAD A WHOLE YEAR OF EDUCATION INFORMATION JUST WITHIN OUR CITY AND. IT TOOK THAT LONG FRANKLY. AND SO YOU CAN IMAGINE HOW THE STATE IS GOING TO DO THAT HAVING TO DO IT STATEWIDE. RIGHT. AND SO ADD IN THE FACT THAT THEY THEY HAVE DONE SOME OF THEIR STAFF PROJECTION TO ACCOUNT FOR CITIES WHO HAVE ALREADY ADOPTED THIS AND YOU KNOW THAT MAY NOT BE GREAT FOR US BUT I WOULD SAY AT THE SAME TIME IT ALSO PROVIDES WELL WE'RE GOING TO BE PROVIDING SERVICE CLOSER TO THE BUSINESSES CLOSER TO THE WORKERS WHICH I THINK MEANS IT'S GOING TO BE MORE RESPONSIVE AND THAT'S SOME OF THE INDICATION YOU GOT FROM OUR CITY ATTORNEY THERE IN TERMS OF WHAT THE SURVEY TELLING US THAT THEY APPRECIATE HAVING THAT ABILITY TO CONTACT PEOPLE. WELL, WHAT I GO BACK TO IS WHY WE ADOPTED THE ORDINANCE IN THE FIRST PLACE AND IT WAS TO PROTECT WORKERS AND THE INFORMATION THAT MELISSA SHARED THAT WE ALREADY HAVE SOME ACTIVE VIOLATIONS, THAT THERE ARE POTENTIAL VIOLATIONS THAT WERE UP ON SUGGESTS THAT IF WE BACK AND WAIT FOR THE STATE TO ASSUME THIS RESPONSIBLE CITY, THAT NOTION OF PROTECTING WORKERS IS NOT GOING TO BE PLACE. IT'S GOING TO BE DELAYED OR DEFERRED AND. I THINK THAT'S A LITTLE BIT CONTRARY TO WHAT THE COUNCIL WAS HOPING TO ACCOMPLISH WHEN WE ADOPTED THIS IN TH FIRST PLACE. SO LARGELY BED O THE TIMING AND SOM OF THE ASSUMIONS MADEY THE STA AND THE FACT THAT WE'REBLE TO DO THIS AT AUCH CLOSER LEV, I THINK SUESTS THATE SHOULD CONTIN TO DO TSNTIL WE HA MORE CLARIFITION ABOUT THAT RULAKING PROCESSND YOU KNOWOW THE STATE IS GOING T PERFORM THISUNCTION COUNCILUESTIONS COMMES . COUNCILMEMBE NELSON THANKS MAYOR. I'M STILL DEEPLY SKEPTICAL OF US HAVING OUR OWN EARNED SICK AND SAFE TIME POLICY WHEN THE STATE HAS ONE. I WOULD LIKE MORE INFORMATION ON THE VIOLATION AND DETAILS WERE THEY SIMPLY PAPERWORK VIOLATIONS OR NOT? DO YOU THINK IT'S GOOD THAT WE'VE DONE EDUCATION SO? BLOOMINGTON BUSINESSES WILL BE AHEAD OF THE STATE CURVE WHEN IT COMES TO THE FULL IMPLEMENTATION BY THE STATE BUT FRANKLY I DON'T THINK WE SHOULD BE ONE CITY AMONG MY CITIES OR IN THE STATE WHERE THERE'S FOUR OR FIVE WITH THESE POLICIES. SO THEY'RE RELYING ON FOUR OR FIVE AND THE OTHER SEVERAL HUNDRED CITIES DON'T HAVE TO FUND THIS YOU KNOW, I THINK IT'S ON THE STATE TO FUND IT AND THAT'S MY OPINION ON IT. BUT I WOULD LIKE TO SEE MORE MORE INFORMATION ON THOSE VIOLATIONS, WHAT THEY ARE AND AND WHERE WE'RE AT THERE. SO MAYOR MALIK BUT YOU'VE GOT DETAILS SOME OF THOSE VIOLATIONS. YES. VERY QUICKLY COUNCIL MEMBERS AND COUNCILMEMBER NELSON. YEAH, I CAN GO OVER DETAILS JUST GIVE YOU THE NAMES OF THE BUSINESSES AND THEY SHOULD BE FINE. SO YEAH I'LL JUST GO IN ORDER OF SO I DON'T THINK WE NEED ALL 11 OH OH THE HOUR THAT WE'RE LOOKING AT OH I'LL JUST GO THROUGH A FEW OF THEM SO FIRST RESTAURANT THAT WE WENT TO AND ASKED ABOUT IT FIRST THERE WAS A MISUNDERSTANDING OF WE WERE TALKING ABOUT AND THEN ONCE THAT WAS DEALT AND SHE SAID OH WE DON'T HAVE THAT AND THEN SO I ASKED YOU KNOW DO YOU MEAN YOU DON'T HAVE IT ON THE PAYSTUBS OR SHE'S LIKE NO WE DON'T HAVE ANY THING LIKE THERE'S NO SICK TIME, NO PTO, NOTHING. AND THEN SHE WAS LIKE I'M GOING TO YOU KNOW, TALK WITH MY BUSINESS PARTNER AND WE'LL GET THAT DEALT WITH AND THEN WE WENT TO A COUPLE DOORS FURTHER DOWN AND THEY IT BUT SHE WAS UPSET BECAUSE CROSS FURTHER DOWN FROM THEM THEY DID IT AND SO SHE WAS COMPLAINING THAT WHY DOES SHE HAVE TO BECAUSE SHE HAD WORKERS WHO WORKED FOR HER AND WORKED FOR THE OTHER PLACE AND SHE'S LIKE YOU KNOW, IF SHE HAS TO PAY THEN THEY SHOULD HAVE TO. SO THEN SHE SENT US OVER THERE LIKE VERY ACTIVELY CALLING OUT THE NAMES OF THE PLACES AND SAYING WHERE WE SHOULD GO. SO WE WENT OVER THERE AND THERE WERE OTHER ONES WHERE YEAH YOU KNOW OUR FOCUS INITIALLY HAS BEEN ON WHILE WE DID GO TO ALL THE BUSINESSES WHEN WE WERE CHECKING FOR COMPLIANCE WE FOCUSED ON RESTAURANT SINCE THAT WAS MY EXPERIENCE IN MINNEAPOLIS THAT WAS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM. SO WHEN WE DEALT WITH OTHER RESTAURANTS AGAIN WE WERE RUNNING INTO THE SAME PROBLEM EITHER ONE THEY WOULD SAY THEY DON'T HAVE IT OR TWO SAY THEY'RE NOT SURE IF THEY HAVE IT THEY HAVE IT ON THE PAYSTUBS BUT THEY'RE NOT WILLING TO SAY THEY DON'T OFFER IT AT ALL AND THAT THEY'LL GET BACK TO US WHICH THEY DID. SO THAT GIVES YOU GOOD SENSE OF SORT OF THE LEVEL AND ONE THING THAT I'VE LEARNED AND IN WORKING WITH AMIR ON THIS IS THAT PEOPLE EMPLOYEES WILL SEVERAL PART TIME JOBS SIMILAR JOBS, SEVERAL OF THEM SO THEY'LL WORK FOR EXAMPLE AT YOU KNOW, THREE OF THE SAME COMPANIES BUSINESSES PART TIME 20 HOURS A WEEK OR SOMETHING OR THEY'LL WORK AT THIS ONE ACROSS THE FOOD COURT ANOTHER ONE, ANOTHER ONE, ANOTHER ONE. AND SO IF WE DON'T HAVE A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD THAT IS IMPACTING SOME EMPLOYERS DIFFERENTLY THAN OTHERS FOR THE EXACTLY SAME TYPE OF WORK SO, THE OTHER THING I'LL COMMENT IS THAT AND WAS THE LAST THING IS THAT YOU KNOW THIS ERNST AND SAVE TIME ORDINANCE IS NOT SOMETHING FOR SOMEBODY LIKE ME RIGHT I HAVE GREAT BENEFITS OF THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. I HAVE PAID TIME OFF IT'S FOR FOLKS THAT THAT DON'T AND WHO WE DON'T WANT TO SHOW UP TO WORK WHEN THEY'RE SICK AND WE WE WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO HAVE TIME OFF TO GO TO COURT TO, PARTICIPATE IN THE JUSTICE PROCESS SO THAT'S WHAT THIS ORDINANCE IS FOR AND WE HAVE A LOT OF THOSE WORKERS IN THE CITY OF BLOOMINGTON. THANK YOU. APPRECIATE THAT AND AND I GUESS I'LL SAY I MEAN MORE THAN ONE THING CAN BE TRUE AND I AGREE WITH JAMIE THAT I MEAN THIS IS PUT IN PLACE TO PROTECT WORKERS IN BLOOMINGTON AND I THINK IMPORTANT TO PROTECT WORKERS IN BLOOMINGTON. I AGREE WITH COUNCILMEMBER NELSON THAT THIS SHOULDN'T THE STATE SHOULDN'T SIMPLY BE SAYING WELL, AS LONG AS THESE ARE DOING IT WE DON'T HAVE TO STAFF UP BECAUSE THOSE CITIES ARE TAKING CARE OF AND IF THEY ARE DOING THAT THEN THE STATE SHOULD PROBABLY THROW A FEW BUCKS OUR WAY IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS IF WE'RE GOING TO PICK UP THEIR WORK WHEN WE MIGHT NEED TO HAVE THAT CONVERSATION AT SOME POINT. AND SO AS I I THINK MORE THAN ONE THING CAN BE TRUE AND I THINK HERE WE'VE GOT A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT ARE THAT ARE TRUE. I JUST REMEMBER THE WOMAN SO MAYOR MIKE, I UNDERSTAND THIS. I'M JUST ASKING YOU OF THIS PIECE HERE IS IT 60% BASICALLY OF THESE FOLKS IS A LOT OF MATH. I HERE ARE COMPLYING WITH WHAT WE'VE GOT OUT THERE AND ROUGHLY ABOUT 40% ARE AT VARIOUS STAGES OF COMPLIANCE OF THAT 28 THAT WE LOOKED AT BASICALLY RIGHT THERE IS THAT I UNDERSTAND UNDERSTANDING CORRECTLY MAYOR MEMBERS THAT'S A IT'S A PRETTY SMALL SAMPLE SIZE SO I DON'T KNOW THAT I MEAN THAT'S MATH THAT'S THE MATH. I DON'T KNOW IT'S A IT'S A LITTLE LESS THAN HALF OR A LITTLE MORE THAN HALF. SO WE CAN CERTAINLY DO MORE. BUT I THINK YOU'RE PROBABLY GOING TO FIND WHAT HAS BEEN FOUND IN OTHER CITIES THAT IS A LACK OF COMPLIANCE AND THE NEED TO HELP. I WANT TO WANT TO KEEP IT SHORT. IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT RIGHT FROM THE SAMPLE SIZE RIGHT 6040 SPLIT 28 SO I GOT A OF THEM IN OUR LINE WHICH IS ROUGHLY 40% YOU YOU KNOW I TOTALLY AGREE WITH MY MY MY COLLEAGUE HERE YOU KNOW, YOU TALK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, A LEVEL PLAYING FIELD, YOU KNOW I MEAN WHERE'S THE LEVEL PLAYING FIELD RIGHT WHERE YOU KNOW, WHERE IS IT YOU KNOW IS THAT STATE LEVEL FEDERAL LEVEL BUT GOSH, THAT IS A LOT OF 40% IS REALLY I AND SO YOU KNOW IN THE IDEA THAT WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT YOU KNOW, OUR EMPLOYEES THERE IN THESE AREAS, I THINK THAT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. BUT AGAIN, YOU KNOW, LIKE YOU SAY THERE WAS A LACK OF FUNDING . YOU KNOW, IT'S KIND OF LIKE I MEAN I JUST I LOOK AT THIS BUDGET HERE THAT WE'RE BEING AND THEN I KIND OF GO BACK TO WHAT COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO SAID EARLIER. YOU KNOW, I'M LIKELY TO WHERE DOES THE YOU KNOW, HOW DO WE BALANCE THESE THINGS OUT? YOU KNOW, ON THE ONE END YOU'VE GOT THOSE FOLKS WHO REALLY NEED US TO PROTECT THEIR THEIR PAY AND THEN ON THE OTHER HAND, YOU KNOW, WE'REOU KNOW, WH ONE HAND WE'REAKING IT OUTF THEIR OTHERALLET FROM T OTHER SIDE. SO NOT EASY. THAT'S ALL I CAN SAY. AND I JUST YOU KNOW, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS, I THINK WE'VE GOT TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO LEVERAGE MORE FUNDING TO TO TO PAY FOR THIS. YOU KNOW, AND I DO THINK AND I AGREE WITH YOUR COUNCILMEMBER AND I THINK IT BE AS WE PUT TOGETHER A LEGISLATIVE AGENDA FOR THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION, I THINK THERE SHOULD BE SOMETHING THAT WE SHOULD ADDRESS WITHOUT QUESTION. AND MR. MAYOR AND COUNCIL MEMBERS I THAT WE COULD INSERT SOME LANGUAGE INTO THE LEGISLATIVE PLATFORM TO PURSUE STATE FUNDING FOR, YOU KNOW, LOCAL AUTHORITIES HAVE THEIR OWN ORDINANCE IN PLACE THAT ARE ESSENTIALLY BEING DELEGATED AUTHORITY BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE ACCOUNTING FOR HERE AGES THEY'RE SAYING YOU TAKE CARE OF THIS DISTRICT FOR US OR WHATEVER THEIR DEFINITION IS AND I THINK THAT WE CAN WORK WITH OUR DELEGATION TO GET SOME AT LEAST ADVANCE LANGUAGE IN THAT REGARD. I THINK THAT WOULD MAKE GOOD SENSE IF WE DO THAT MAKE. SURE. YOU KNOW, WE CAN TAKE ON MORE JURISDICTIONS TO JUST THE ONES WE HAVE COUNCIL ANYTHING ADDITIONAL HERE? VERY GOOD THANK YOU. THANK YOU WAS MENTIONED WELL THAT WRAPS UP OUR DEPARTMENTAL BUDGET PRESENTATIONS FOR THE YEAR AND. WE HAVE A SPECIAL BUDGET MEETING COMING UP ON NEXT MONDAY NEXT MONDAY I KNEW IT WAS COMING UP NEXT MONTH WE HAVE A SPECIAL BUDGET MEETING TO KIND OF PULL ALL THE PIECES TOGETHER AND CONTINUE THIS DISCUSSION. SO THANKS ALL THE STAFF WHO'VE BEEN IN FRONT OF US. THANKS TO MS.. CARLSON FOR HURTING ALL THE CATS, PULLING THIS ALL TOGETHER AND TO MR. FERRUCCI FOR MAKING SURE THAT IT ALL WORKS TOGETHER AS WELL. AND LET'S GET THROUGH NEXT MONDAY. LET'S TO THE NEXT ROUND. YEAH I AGREE. I AGREE BUT WE HAVE THE INFORMATION THAT WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD NOW SO AND THANK YOU FOR THAT GOOD, GOOD. OUR LAST AGENDA ITEM TONIGHT COUNCIL ITEM 5.5 OF CITY COUNCIL POLICY AND ISSUE UPDATE I'LL KICK IT OFF WITH A RECAP OF OUR LISTENING SESSION. WE HEARD FROM ONE SPEAKER THIS EVENING THIS PAM PALMER CAME FORWARD AND, BROKE IT DOWN INTO THREE DIFFERENT PIECES. SHE WANTED MORE INFORMATION REGARDING ANIMAL SHELTER IN BLOOMINGTON AND WAS GLAD TO SEE THERE WAS AT LEAST A LONG TERM PLAN SOMEWHAT IN PLACE TO TO ADDRESS THE ISSUE AND THAT THERE WAS A SHORT TERM PROPOSAL TO PERHAPS THE EXISTING FACILITY TO MAKE IT A LITTLE BIT MORE HABITABLE THE ANIMALS THAT FIND THEMSELVES THERE. MS. PALMER HAD QUESTIONS ABOUT A PURPOSE AND WHAT THE CITY OF THE DISCUSSION REGARDING THE PAST THAT WE HAD IN CLOSED SESSION AS IT RELATED TO OTHER THINGS AND I THINK WE ADDRESS SOME OF THOSE QUESTIONS IN TERMS THE THE POTENTIAL LITIGATION THAT THE CITY WAS PARTAKING IN AND PART OF AND THEN MS. PALMER ONCE AGAIN AND SHE DID SEND A NUMBER OF EMAILS TO US IN THE PAST I THINK EACH OF US HAVE RECEIVED THE EMAILS THAT OUR OFFICE OF EQUITY EQUITY INCLUSION AND WELCOMING IS BELONGING. THAT'S AN HER HER CONCERN WAS THAT IT WAS NOT ALL INCLUSIVE, THAT IT WAS TOO FOCUSED ON ON RACE AND NOT INCLUDING THINGS LIKE AGE OR DISABILITY OR LEVEL OR SOCIOECONOMIC STATUS. AND WE HAD A GOOD DISCUSSION ABOUT THAT WELL SO I APPRECIATE MS. PALMER STOPPING BY AND TALKING TO US THIS EVENING AND SHE AS I SAID WAS HER ONLY SPEAKER FOR THIS WEEK'S LISTENING SESSION. UH, MR. FORD REALLY WANT TO TURN OVER TO YOU AND I ASSUME YOU'RE GOING TO DOWN ELECTION DETAILS OR IS THAT AN ASSUMPTION THAT IT SHOULDN'T? WELL, I'M HAPPY TO DO THAT, MR. MAYOR. SO I THINK THAT MOST RESIDENTS OR HOPEFULLY MOST RESIDENTS ARE AWARE OF THE ELECTION OUTCOMES FROM LAST TUESDAY WE HAD OUR CITY CLERK HERE EARLIER IN THE MEETING MS. SCIPIONE TO CERTIFY OUR RESULTS, CANVASS THE RESULTS AND I THINK WHAT FOLKS ARE REALLY LOOKING FOR IS WHAT'S NEXT ESPECIALLY FOR THE QUESTIONS. SO THE THE FIRST PROJECT THAT'S GOING TO MOVE IS IS LIKELY TO BE THE THE BLOOMINGTON ICE GARDEN RENOVATION. WE HAD BEEN LOOKING AT THAT AS A POTENTIAL PROJECT AND TRYING TO DO IT OVER A COUPLE OF YEARS. I THINK THAT STAFF AND OTHERS HAVE FIGURED OUT THE THE BEST WAY TO DO THIS BOTH FROM A ECONOMY AND ALSO TIME MANAGEMENT PERSPECTIVE TRYING TO MINIMIZE LOST REVENUES AS WE ACTUALLY PROBABLY WILL DO IT ALL AT ONCE. SO WE'RE ACTUALLY LOOKING AT SPRING 25 SO THAT WE HAVE ENOUGH ADVANCE NOTICE WE'D HAVE A SHUTDOWN DATE MIDDLE MARCH SOON AS THAT LAST GAME IS PLAYED AND THEN HOPE TO HAVE BACK OPEN WITHIN ABOUT SIX MONTHS SEVEN MONTHS SO THAT WE CAN GET THE NEXT SEASON OFF AND RUNNING. SO THAT'S THE CURRENT THOUGHT PROCESS AND WE'RE GOING TO APPROACH OUR PLANNING WITH THAT IN MIND AND HOPE THAT IT COMES TOGETHER THAT WAY. SO END OF YOU KNOW 25 IS WHEN WE'D SEE THE BIG RENOVATION COMPLETED THE THE COMMUNITY HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER PROJECT WANT TO RECOGNIZE THAT WHAT WE DID NOT WANT TO DO WAS SPEND SEVERAL MILLION DOLLARS PUTTING TOGETHER CONCEPT PLAN AND NOT KNOWING OUTCOME OF THE BALLOT QUESTION AND SO WE HAVE A FAIR AMOUNT OF WORK THAT WE HAVE TO DO AND A FAIR AMOUNT OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT TO FIGURE OUT EXACTLY WHAT THE ELEMENTS AND COMPONENTS OF THAT HEALTH AND WELLNESS CENTER WILL BE. MAKE SURE THE COMMUNITY HAS AN ACTIVE VOICE AND THAT COUNCIL WAS AWARE THAT WE HAD UTILIZED THE CREEKSIDE MEDIUM THE PROPOSAL FROM 2019 AS A BASELINE SOME OF OUR ASSUMPTIONS AND TALKING ABOUT THINGS THAT COULD POTENTIALLY BE INCLUDED BUT WE WILL START THAT ENGAGEMENT I WOULD THINK VERY EARLY IN 2024. SO OUR TEAM WILL START WORKING ON WHAT A SCHEDULE FOR THAT LOOKS LIKE AND THEN FOR THE THIRD PROJECT I'M SORRY SO WE'D HOPED TO CONCLUDE MUCH OF THAT ENGAGEMENT AND START THE DESIGN PROCESS SO THAT IN 25 WE COULD HOPEFULLY START TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE PROJECT AND HOPEFULLY HAVE IT OPEN BY 27. I THINK AS OUR WORKING TIMELINE RIGHT NOW. AND THEN FINALLY THE NINE MILE CREEK CORRIDOR PROJECT OUR PARKS AND RECREATION LEADERSHIP WILL TAKE A LOOK AT HOW WE'RE GOING TO DO THE ENGAGEMENT PROCESS THERE BECAUSE I THINK THE BIGGEST ISSUE THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS HEARD THROUGHOUT FALL AND STAFF CERTAINLY HEARD AS WELL WAS PRIMARILY RELATED TO THE PRESENCE BIKES AND WHETHER THERE'S GOING TO BE A BIKE PATH AND SOME OF THE OTHER COMPONENTS AND MAKING SURE THAT WE MAINTAIN SOME OF THE YOU KNOW, MAKING SURE THAT WE MAINTAIN THE NATURAL ENVIRONMENT AND NOT CAUSING DAMAGE TO THE ECOSYSTEM BY OF AN IMPROVEMENT PROJECT. AND SO I THINK THAT'S THE BIGGEST TO BE RESOLVED AS WE START TO PUT TOGETHER THAT PLAN AND AGAIN THERE'LL BE ACTIVE COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT FOR THAT AS WELL. SO ONCE WE HAVE TIME FRAMES FOR THESE VARIOUS ENGAGEMENT ACTIVITIES WE'LL START TO SHARE THEM WITH THE COMMUNITY AND MAKE SURE THEY UNDERSTAND THE PROCESS FOR HOW WE'RE GOING TO MOVE FORWARD AND A LITTLE BIT MORE CLARITY ON WHAT THOSE TIMELINES ARE GOING TO BE. SO IT'S OFFICIAL, MR. MAYOR, IT IS SUFFICIENT QUICK QUESTIONS. COUNCILMEMBER DALLAS COUNTY MEMBER QUESTIONS RELATED TO THIS OR YES RELATED TO THE COMMUNITY CENTER AND SPECIFIC YEAH. NOT A QUESTION JUST AN ADVOCATE AND APPLICATION OUT OF THAT SORT I'D WANT TO ADVOCATE FOR PEOPLE WHO ARE PEOPLE WHO ARE NOT TO YOUR POINT NOT SUPER CLEAR ON WHAT JUST LIKE REALLY THE WE I TALKED A LOT WITH FOLKS ABOUT LIKE THE THE WAY THAT THROUGH THE PARKS MASTER PLAN OUR PARKS AND REC IS DOING KIND OF LIKE INITIAL AND THEN A THIRD PERCENT DESIGN A 60% DESIGN REVIEW AND LIKE REALLY WORKING THROUGH COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT AND THOSE THINGS I HIGHLY RECOMMEND WE USE THAT PROCESS IN THIS CASE AND THAT IS BROADCAST AS BROADLY AS WE CAN INCLUDING YOU KNOW IN THE BRIEFING EVERY MONTH LIKE LET'S GET A CALENDAR IN PLACE AND GET IT IN THERE AND PUT IT ON THERE ALL THE AND WHATEVER WE CAN DO BECAUSE PEOPLE ARE GOING TO WANT TO INVOLVED AND I THINK YOU KNOW GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE CAN'T SPEND MILLIONS OF DOLLARS JUST TO LET PEOPLE KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON, WE HAVE TO USE EVERY LEVEL AT OUR DISPOSAL AND I THINK CONSISTENCY THAT IS GOING TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT. SO TRYING TO FORECAST THAT OUT AND GET THAT PEOPLE'S CALENDARS AHEAD OF TIME AND EVERYTHING IS GOING TO BE REALLY IMPORTANT. OF COURSE I DON'T I'M SURE ALL OF YOU ON HERE TO TOWN HALL WHATER YOU NEEDROM LIKE AS A COUNCIL MEMBER TO RIGHT WE ARE A LEADE THA WHOLEHING AND CAN DO OUTREACH AND ENGAGEMENT AS WL SO UTILI AS RESOURC IN THAT FRO AME. GOOD POINT COUILMEMBER THANK YOU. PRECIATE IT. COCILMEMBER NELN YEAH, THANK YOU MAYOR. JUST A VERY QUICK PNT. I KNO THIS WILL BE PART OF THE PN BUT JUSTAN TO SAYXPLICITLY TO PUT TOGHER A PLAN F THE CURRENT PROGRAM OF ACTIVITS AT CREEKSI WHE THEY'RE DISPLED GUESTS SO THAT THO USERS KNOW AT'S COMING A CAN HAVE A VOICE IN THAT AND WHERE WHEREVER GOING TO B SO THANK YOU MR. MAYOR AND COUNL MEMBERS COUILMEMBER NELSON I APPRECIATE TT COUNCILMEMBER DALLESSANDRO APPRECIATE THOSE COMMENT AS WELL. ONE THING I SHOULD HAVE SAID IS JUST TO CLARIFY ONCE AGAIN IF FOLKS DIDN'T FULLY UNDERSTAND THE OUTCOME OR THE CONSEQUENCE OF THE YES VOTE IS THAT IT WILL IT WILL TRIGGER A ONE HALF PERCENT SALES TAX INCREASE. IT'S NOT 1.5, RIGHT. IT WASN'T 0.5 FOR EACH PROJECT AND WE CONTINUE TO HEAR THIS RIGHT UP TO ELECTION DAY THAT THERE WAS SOME CONFUSION IN THAT REGARD IT IS A HALF CENT SALES TAX AND WE'LL MAKE THE NECESSARY NOTIFICATIONS. THE STATE OF MINNESOTA, THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE HAS TO GO THROUGH THEIR PROCESS OUR ANTICIPATION IS THAT IT WOULD PROBABLY BE APRIL 1ST WHEN THAT SALES TAX WOULD TAKE EFFECT BECAUSE OF THE PROCESS TIMING THE DEPARTMENT OF REVENUE THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. IF YOU COULD PUT THAT ON IN SCRIPT FORM FOR ME FOR WEDNESDAY THAT'D, BE WONDERFUL. GOT IT. AND COUNSEL ANYTHING ADDITIONAL TO BRING FORWARD TONIGHT COUNCILMAN, I DO HAVE ONE OTHER ITEM. OH, I'M SORRY. YEAH. SO I JUST. I JUST WANT TO INTRODUCE SOMEBODY AND DAMIAN, YOU OUGHT TO STEP UP FROM BEHIND YOUR CHAIR OVER THERE AND DAMON'S BEEN SITTING OVER HERE AND HE DIDN'T HAVE ANYTHING TO DO FOR THE LAST 4 HOURS, SO THOUGHT HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO GET UP. SO DAMIAN BRITTANY HAS BEEN A COMMANDER WITH OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT FOR A NUMBER OF YEARS AND JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO WAS RECENTLY PROMOTED TO BE DEPUTY CHIEF AND SO YOU KNOW WE RUN A LOT OF EMPLOYEES UP HERE. WE DON'T NECESSARILY RUN UP OUR PROMOTED EMPLOYEES AND SO I JUST WANT TO TAKE A MOMENT FOR THE COMMUNITY TO SEE WHO IS IN LEADERSHIP IN OUR POLICE DEPARTMENT REALLY APPRECIATE DAMIEN'S LEADERSHIP AND HIS DEMONSTRATION OF HIS WORTHINESS TO STEP INTO THIS DEPUTY CHIEF ROLE AND WE'RE REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE HIM TAKE THAT NEXT STEP EVEN I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING DEPUTY CHIEF DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO SAY ANYTHING. I JUST THANK YOU ALL FOR THIS OPPORTUNITY. I REALLY IT AND IF WE CAN HELP OUT IN OUR SIDE OR WHATEVER IF YOU NEED ME TO SPEAK MORE THAN I AM NOW. I'D BE HAPPY TO. I KNOW THAT SHE'S GOING BLOW UP MY PHONE BY SAYING THAT BUT THANK YOU SO MUCH. CONGRATULATIONS, NIECY WELL, THANK YOU FOR THANK YOU FOR THAT MR. AUBREY COUNCILMEMBER VOLLMER THANK YOU. I JUST WANTED TO I'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY OVER OVER A LONG SERVICE TO THAT TRAIN TO WORK WITH DIFFERENT SECRETARIES. AND I KNOW THIS COULD BE ONE OFATT'S LAST MEETINGS AND I, I WANTED TO JUST SAY HOW MUCH WE APPRECIATE YOUR WORK GO AND WORK. WELL THIS ARE JUST CARRYOVER FOR THE NEXT ONE. I DIDN'T WANT TO MAKE SURE I DIDN'T WANT IT YOU KNOW, ONE TIME BEFORE I DID IT WHEN THE PERSON WASN'T EVEN AROUND AND WE NEED MORE OF THAT SO WE'LL DO IT NOW WHILE YOU'RE HERE. BUT YOU KNOW IT'S A VERY CHALLENGING TIME IN WISH THAT YOU HAD TO SECRETARY ESPECIALLY WITH COVID AS PART OF IT I'M NOT GIFTED A TRAVEL TYPE THINGS EITHER SO I APPRECIATE THE ALL THE HELP THAT IS PROVIDED WITH THAT AND JUST SO MANY OF THE THINGS THAT THIS THIS ROLE HAS REALLY PROGRESSED AND CHANGED AS I'VE BEEN A COUNCIL MEMBER AND WANTED TO JUST THANK YOU FOR WHAT YOU PROVIDED TO THE COUNCIL AND TO THE COMMUNITY AND TO THE STAFF THAT THAT ARE AROUND THAT. SO I JUST WANT TO LET YOU KNOW HOW MUCH I APPRECIATE YOUR SERVICE TO THE SCRIPT AND EASY ROLE AND I KNOW I'M A TOUGH PERSON TO TO WORK WITH AND SO I APPRECIATE YOUR WILLINGNESS TO TO WORK WITH ME. AND THEN SECONDARILY I WANTED TO MENTION THAT A PERSON WHO I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO WORK WITH DID PASS AWAY. BECKY SCHNEIDER AND NOT SURE IF I SAID HER NAME. SCHINDLER THANK YOU. I KNEW HER A DIFFERENT NAME WHEN SHE FIRST CAME ON BOARD BUT SHE DID PASS AWAY AND I GET TO KNOW HER SEVERAL YEARS BACK WHEN I WAS AN INTERN IN THE PLANNING DEPARTMENT SHE TAUGHT ME THE JOYS COUNTRY WESTERN MUSIC AND SO TO THIS DAY AND THE MAYOR WILL ATTEST IT I NOW SING SOME COUNTRY WESTERN SONGS THAT AND A LOCAL BAR THAT WILL BE NON DISCLOSED AT THIS POINT TIME AND THEN WE'VE HAD THE OPPORTUNITY OVER MANY YEARS TO GO TO THE PUBLIC FINANCE CONFERENCE AT ELLA'S AND JUST HER COMMITMENT TO THE COMMUNITY AND ALL OF WHAT SHE HAS PUT FORTH IN BLOOMINGTON REALLY I THINK REFLECTS WHAT SO MANY OF OUR EMPLOYEES THAT THEY JUST ABOUT THIS COMMUNITY FOR ALL THAT THEY CAN ALL THAT THEY ARE INTO THIS COMMUNITY AND I JUST WANT TO, YOU KNOW, THANK HER AND HER FAMILY FOR ALL THE TIME AND WHAT THEY HAVE CONTRIBUTED TO OUR OUR COMMUNITY AND I AND I'LL KEEP ON SINGING THOSE ARE REALLY BAD COUNTRY WESTERN SONGS AND MAYBE I'LL GET MY DOG BACK THAT I NEVER OWNED AND ALL THOSE TYPES OF THINGS. THANK YOU, BECKY AND COUNCILMEMBER ON BOTH FRONTS. THANKS FOR HIS KIND AS WELL. I THINK ELSE TO ADD TONIGHT IF NOT I WOULD LOOK FOR A MOTION TO ADJOURN AND A MOTION AND A SECOND TO ADJOURN ALL THOSE IN FAVOR PLEASE SIGNIFY BY SAYING I II OPPOSED MOTION CARRIES SIX ZERO. THANK YOU MUCH FOR THE CONVERSATION TONIGHT COUNSEL WELL DONE. STAFF WELL DONE. ALSO I APPRECIATE THE CONVERSATION AND ALL THE PRESENTATIONS AND THE INFORMATION AND THANK YOU TO OUR RESIDENTS WHO ARE HERE THIS EVENING WHO AREATCHING AND THEIR CONTRIBUTIONS TO THIS MEETING AS WELL AND THE REST OF THE WEEK ENJOY THE BEAUTIFUL WEATHER