port of LA? We play, um, a rec league softball in the summer, and I'm on the team called the Knights of Soroka. And I play in the outfield. Okay How did you start working at the port? So I've been working at the port since 2013, and I actually started as a summer intern in human resources and I worked there for about three years before I was hired full time in the waterfront commercial real estate division, where I've been for the past five. What is your day like working at the port? Um, so my day is always vary at the port, but, um, typically I always check in with the different tenants. See if they have any service requests. I also work on event permits for big events like Conquer the Bridge. Uh, Cirque de Soleil, La Fleet Week. So I work on those typically in the summer months. And then I also work on new permits for new properties. So right now I'm working on a permit for a new restaurant that's going to be out here. So that's been a lot of fun. Okay Um, what hobbies do you enjoy doing in your free time? Um, I like playing slow pitch here at the port of La. I love going to the beach, and I actually just got a new puppy a few months ago, so I really like hanging out with my new puppy, Daisy. Last one, what kinds of challenges have you faced during your career? Um challenges. Well actually, for the past year, we've all been working at home due to Covid, so that's been a challenge. Uh, learning to work from a laptop versus being in an office has been a big challenge . And being able to check in with all of our tenants remotely over zoom and teams has been a lot more difficult than being able to just call them up and meet in person at the different sites throughout the port, and that's it. I'm Megan Sestic, and this has been my career report. For more information, follow us online on Facebook, Twitter and Instagram . Hello everyone, I'm Natalia Volvo and here's what's happening in LA. This week. Affordable housing is coming to Lincoln Heights Council member Eunice Hernandez joined the community for the groundbreaking of Grace villas. The development includes a mix of units that will become much needed homes in the neighborhood. I think. Right now, we're standing on a publicly owned parking lot in Lincoln Heights in Council District one. We are celebrating the groundbreaking for Grace villas, which is an affordable housing development that is long time in the making. Homes for families. Three bedrooms, two bedrooms and also some homes for transitional aged youth and for families with members that have developmental disabilities. And all of them will receive affordable rents and services that support whatever their needs are so that they can move forward with the lives that they dream of for themselves. So we're excited about it. I live in Highland Village and this organization called works about the apartment complex and the remodel. The whole apartments for the many to low income for low income rents. And I've been living there since they bought it like 20 years ago. So it's been a great experience for us. Welcome to the first district. Welcome to an Ladot lot that very shortly is going to be 48 units of affordable housing. It's good to be here surrounded by neighbors, partners and friends to celebrate the groundbreaking of Grace villas. We're here because we believe that everyone, no matter their income, age or ability, deserves a safe, dignified and affordable place to call home. Back in 2022, voters passed measure ULA, which is creating revenue to build affordable housing to keep people in their homes. And so this is just a demonstration and proof that when the voters asked for creating affordable housing , we can deliver on that. We literally completed the funding for this development on Friday and are ready to start construction in a week. But before we begin, we have a tradition of blessing the land, which will ultimately house 48 families and young people. Recognizing the peoples and communities who have preserved this place for us to use . You guys want to grab some dirt ? All right. When I count to three, you guys, you guys just toss it. Ready One, two. Three. Toss Perfect. All right. Great. Remembering justice. Ruth Bader Ginsburg as part of a public art project, the city's Department of Cultural Affairs unveiled a memorial to Ginsburg, who blazed a trail in advocating for women's rights. A special monument will celebrate her impact and legacy. Good morning, everyone. It is a true honor to join you for the unveiling of the Ruth Bader Ginsburg Memorial and to celebrate a vision that has been in the works for years now. We are in the community of Van Nuys, particularly at the Van Nuys Civic Center, and we are so excited because we were finally able to unveil our Ruth Bader Ginsburg monument. It's a project that is being added to the DCA archives, Department of Cultural Affairs, but it's a really great story of how, when our departments work together in public, private partnerships, we can make these beautiful things happen. So this is a very long term project. I've been working on it for six years, and one of the things that I did to create the monument was to speak to family members of justice Ginsburg. I spoke to Jane Ginsburg, her daughter, and she told me about her incredible callers. So Justice Ginsburg would wear these beautiful collars when she would wear her robes. And I was inspired by those collars to create the ceiling and the floor of the monument. I also researched a little bit about her going to Harvard Law School, and I was inspired by the benches at Harvard Law School to create the seating area inside of the monument. And finally, there is a door in the very back of the monument, which is slightly ajar, kind of reminding us of how much more work there is to do to open doors for young women and girls , but also how much work that Justice Ginsburg began to do for us to open those doors of possibility. We hope this monument will be an inspiration , especially to young women, to know that law and government are careers that they can aspire to. It was built next to the library, and that was purposeful because they wanted to link it to Ruth Bader Ginsburg's love of books, love of reading and writing. But also just to enjoy a really beautiful green space. This project is a gift to the city of Los Angeles, and it's collectively held by all of us here in the United States. And that was a very important part to me of the project that it actually changes history because it becomes a part of the public record. And I really hope that people who come to see the monument understand that it's their monument, it's our public monument, and that it's a gift for each and every member of the city of Los Angeles. To giving for Thanksgiving at the Hollenbeck Community Police Station, the Los Angeles Police Department joined my gathering place International to help community members with turkeys and more. During this holiday season. And we're here at Hollenbeck Station, we're partnering up with my gathering place International, where we're here giving out turkeys to the community who are in need. Yes well, we're from our gathering place, international. This is our fifth year to be here in Boyle Heights to do our Thanksgiving outreach. We call it unity in our community. And we love to give. We love to sow into people's lives. So it's a gathering from our church. We buy turkeys from our ministry. People donate and this year we bought 50 turkeys. But we didn't have enough. So we had to run out to the store and pick up 38 more turkeys and some gift cards. So this year people were lined up all the way to the street in the rain for hours. Some of them got here at 6 a.m, so we're thankful that we were able to meet a need. Thank you sir. God bless you. Happy Thanksgiving happy Thanksgiving. Parece excelente porque pues dando un poquito mas a la comunidad con estos tiempos dificiles esta pasando y se les agradece a ellos para hacer esta este tipo de eventos. Verdad para ayudar a la gente de la comunidad. So we want to make sure that the community knows that the Los Angeles Police Department is aware that a lot of people are going through tough times right now. So we always welcome the community here. We like to foster relationships with our local churches. So that people feel more comfortable coming to us. Hopefully that also bridges the gap between the community and the police. We just want to remind everyone that behind every badge is a heart and our police station is open to everyone and anyone that is going through hard times and is in need of the police. Please come in and report whatever crime you need to report. You are encouraged to come in and speak with any of us or call 911. If needed. Thanksgiving in the city continues bringing community together. Council members Dennis Hernandez and Hugo Soto Martinez got into the spirit of the holiday by teaming up for a turkey giveaway, and the chance to connect with Angelenos. Today, we are here at the Dream Center, right in the heart of Silver Lake, in collaboration with my Companera Ianis Hernandez. We're giving out 9000 turkeys to Angelenos from Council District one, 13 and beyond to make sure that we can fill the gap of food disparity and lack of income for a lot of our families. What better thing to give families and something they can share with their entire families, like a big old turkey? A un programa maravilloso. Qué nos ayuda para Los alimentos ahorita en esta época, estamos de deficit no todo esta bien. Caro Entonces eso nos ayuda muchisimo para toda la familia. Thank you very much. You too God bless you. Thank you. It's a beautiful display of community. I really miss the days in which we had more community. It's been really hard to connect with people and this is a great opportunity for different sorts of people to connect and, you know, it's for a great cause. I see it as a great effort to come together, something that's much needed for a little more unity within the government. And within the city and the people in the city just showing that they care. They care that they they're paying attention. You know, the most important thing about doing something like this is that we are telling people that we care about them, that we care about, that they have a wonderful experience during this Thanksgiving. And of course, you know, this is how we also build community. So when the volunteers come in today, we struggle together. We fight together, we support families together. And it just builds solidarity across so many different spectrums of our city. It is our responsibility as council members to be the guardians of some of our most vulnerable community members here in the city of La. Today is an example of us stepping up to make sure that families have everything they need to have a wonderful holiday season, happy holidays shows that people care even in the moment where it's not a lot of that going on right now. So we do appreciate that and it shows that there's still a lot of love and still a lot of compassion and empathy out there that we need to make sure that we continue to support because folks are struggling and everything is really expensive, from rent to groceries. They can go to our online website or at CD1 Los Angeles on social media. For more information on our regular food distribution and our rental assistance program. And as always, if there's ever a need our social media city 13 Los Angeles. Mayor Karen Bass joined state and regional leaders to launch LA is open, a recovery campaign to boost LA's local economy and help businesses impacted by the January wildfires. The campaign invites Angelenos and visitors to rediscover LA through shop LA , Dine La and discover LA initiatives to prepare for upcoming events. Mayor bass launched the city's contract financing program and announced the new centralized website, Business navigator. According to bass, the new campaign sends a clear message that the city is open and visitors will see why LA is second to none. For more information, visit merely city dot gov slash press. LA City Housing Authority Hacla joined mayor Karen Bass along with veterans and their families at a recent celebration of service and partnership under the House Our Vets strategy, which began in January 2025. Nearly 400 veterans have already moved into stable housing. Hacla is partnering with the Veterans Administration to increase housing referrals, offer personalized help to match veterans to units and reduce move in delays, according to Mayor Bass, the partnership offers more opportunities to rent to veterans and clears barriers for the veterans to use vouchers to come inside. Hacla is calling on potential partners to join with them in a collaboration to get all veterans home for the holidays. For more information, visit hasselborg. Mayor Karen Bass began the 1000 day countdown to the 2028 Paralympic Games by highlighting citywide efforts to deliver the most inclusive games in 2028. LA will make history by hosting its first ever Paralympic Games with the opening ceremony on Tuesday, August 15th. The 2028 Paralympic schedule sees competitions in 23 sports, including the new sport of para climbing, according to bass, the City Games Mobility Working Group, including the department on Disability, will help deliver a safe, accessible and welcoming games experience. The city will also establish a task force to improve hiring and retaining individuals with disabilities in the city. For more information, visit Merely City dot gov slash press. With so much of life happening in the digital world, connection to the internet is a necessity. Council President Marquis Harris Dawson joined local groups and community members to celebrate new connectivity along Crenshaw . We're here on Crenshaw Boulevard in the Hyde Park neighborhood. We're celebrating this morning because we got live free 24 over seven Wi-Fi internet access to everybody that's along the Crenshaw corridor. So if you're between Hyde Park and Leimert Park, you can use the internet for free. That means if you're in a coffee shop, you can use it. If you're in a park, you can use it if you're on the train on the metro, you can use it anywhere you are in this community, you'll have free Wi-Fi. There's a lot of inequity in internet availability, and we really saw it during Covid when all your business had to be conducted online. What you saw is people gathering outside libraries or outside McDonald's, even though those places were closed, they kept their Wi-Fi going and eventually we started doing that at the parks. And so to have this community disconnect, it creates a gap. Well, the California Community Foundation is the community's foundation, and for us, providing digital equity to all of Angelenos is one of our most significant priorities. Now, if you live in this community, of which I'm one, I live not too far away from here. You'll be able to access Wi-Fi, but now also provides a quality lifeline to access to jobs, to education, to health care, in ways that all Angelenos deserve. So we found out about this program through destination Crenshaw. They approached us about this new community Wi-Fi program and asked us if we be interested in kind of being one of the first pilots for the program. And we were like, absolutely, that sounds amazing. Like especially being like a farmers market and an outdoor space with really no access to, like, electricity or anything. We're kind of like pack in, pack out. So just being able to kind of have the opportunity to test out what that would look like to have kind of free access on a weekly basis. And see how we could utilize that was something that we were really excited about. You know, today we live in a digital world, and the amount of information, the amount of access you have really depends on your connectivity as well. And so this is just another way for us to make sure that every resident has equal footing. In the city's Department of Rec and Parks, playlist is all about inclusivity in sport and empowering those with disabilities. They are teaching blind soccer, proving that being visually impaired is no barrier to staying active and taking part in a team sport. So today, the city of Los Angeles play L.A. and the United States Association of Blind Athletes are hosting our fourth clinic, where we are teaching blind and visually impaired children how to play the sport of blind soccer. Being active and healthy is a really important part of every child's life. And so for kids who are blind and visually impaired, there aren't a ton of opportunities for them to be active and be a part of a team sport. So it's a really great opportunity to be active, to learn a sport and also be around other kids who are just like them. We invite anyone in our community to participate in our programs. We also like to educate the community around us to ensure that we're bringing awareness and attention to how we can empower our youth with disabilities. I'm here working with play L.A. as a recreational coach, working on blind soccer for visually impaired individuals specifically. It's kind of like a two fold gain. You have the idea that you get to understand that you don't have to just sit in a corner by yourself and not be able to do anything because you have a disability, but in fact, because you have a disability, you get to participate in a very unique and individualized sport that's tailor made and designed for individuals like yourself. And the second benefit is the fact that you get to teach non-disabled individuals about the sport and how it works, and you can have them play blind soccer with you as well. So that way they can kind of relate and connect to you more. So it's more or less about getting disabled people out there in the field, getting them exercising and connecting with other disabled youth. Yet also getting it to where sighted and non-disabled individuals can relate and kind of connect to us individuals who have disabilities. Go star football. Queremos evitar a todos Los padres estén interesados y sus hijos. Qué tienen discapacidad visual pueden participar pueden ingresar en la pagina de la o USA. También de la federacion y van a encontrar diferentes lugares, donde pueden venir a practicar futbol y lo mas importante divertirse y saber. Qué pueden aprender en espanol y en inglés? También. The office of Council member Curren Price hosted its annual city employee appreciation luncheon. It's an opportunity for city workers from many departments to gather together and be thanked for all they do for Angelenos. We're here at our district office for Councilman Curren Price. We're having our city employee appreciation luncheon. We have every year. This is basically a thank you to all the city employees for them coming out, doing all the work they do in South L.A, keeping our district clean, keeping it safe, keeping it memorable for people to live, work and play here. So thank you to our city employees. I'm here to visit current prices, community events in support of all of the great things that current price is doing that is uplifting the community. We really appreciate them. That's why we're having this luncheon, because they do stuff like this. We care about the safety of the citizens we serve. We care about the community, and we're trying to clean it up every day. We're doing our best for our community . We are the city of Los Angeles and we serve its residents. I'm always improving myself to help the community because we enjoy working for the people. I think this is an amazing opportunity for the community to find appreciation, to know that they are appreciated and that they are loved. So whenever you see a city employee walking by, doing their job here and thank them, thank them for us, thank them for our councilors. Thank you for everything they do. For. I love my job and I love the City of Los Angeles. In this week's feature story, we head to Hermann Park, where the Department of Cultural Affairs supports art in the park. They began with the hope that more kids could become college graduates. Now the programs include intergenerational creativity and the popular community band. Art in the Park is a community based artist led arts organization. We are located in Hermann Park in the Arroyo Seco . We've been serving this community since 1997 through workshops and classes in art, music, dance. We also do readings and screenings. We really strive to be kind of like a space away from your home that you feel comfortable in. We've been working in partnership with the Department of Cultural Affairs since 1997. This partnership allows us to connect to community, amplify our programs and be supported by the cultural fabric of Los Angeles. Art in the Park is located in a building that was built in 1939 as a clubhouse for lawn bowlers . Bertha Sosa pioneered art in the park to be a space where youth could envision themselves going to college. There was a really, really low graduation rate in this area, and her main focus was she wanted kids to be able to envision a future in which they went to college. We have consistent programing throughout the week and on the weekends. We have a very robust Latin jazz program and community band. Both those programs are multigenerational and open to all ages and abilities. We have Creativity Club and Elder Guitar Class, which is for our elders in the neighborhood. All of these programs are free and open to the community. Now, the event that I get the most joy from putting on is the weekly community, band and community Arts, which is music happening in tandem with art, where everybody can come out and create art or make music and it's consistent so you can see your neighbors and community once a week because of how long we have been serving this community, we're able to see kids that have grown up within the programing, bring their children to the programing. We want to be a space that people feel comfortable with, that they keep coming back to, that they bring their kids back to. Art in the Park invites everybody to come down and participate in a class or a workshop or a film screening for more information, you can go to Art in the Park, LA org. In this week's Things to Do, get holidaying by the sea, catch the library's creators and residents, showcase and celebrate 100 years of Granada Hills at their holiday parade. All this up next on things to do . There are holiday events and then there is holidays by the sea at LA's waterfront. Come celebrate with the Port of Los Angeles and Council member Tim McCosker on Saturday, December sixth. Enjoy performances from the San Pedro City Ballet, Victorian carolers and a holiday puppet show. Celebrate the season with snow hot chocolate, churros and photos with Santa. Join the community for all the action, including the tree lighting, and finish the evening with the LA Harbor Holiday Boat Parade. Holidays by the sea takes place on Saturday, December 6th, beginning at 4 p.m. For more details, visit La Waterfront dot org. On Sunday, December 7th, join the LA Public Library for the creators and residents Showcase. When both creators will discuss their work. Creator Ashley Walker's project, called threads of Los Angeles, reimagines LA history through the lens of fashion and features six newly designed costumes on display. Creator Tin Nguyen explored the library's menu collection and created new displays tracing the history of neighborhoods through their menus. Head to the central Library for the creators and residents, showcase on Sunday, December seventh at 2 p.m. for more information, visit lapl.org . Slash events. Celebrate with Granada Hills as they mark their 100th anniversary. The occasion means this year's holiday parade has a roaring 20s theme. Over 100 entries are taking part and taking the theme to heart. Join the Department of Cultural Affairs Council member John Lee and the community on December seventh for the 42nd annual holiday Parade. The 2025 Official Grand Marshal is NFL Hall of Famer, Denver Quarterback John Elway, who went to the local high school graduating in 1979, head to Chatsworth Street for the Granada Hills holiday Parade on Sunday, December seventh. Beginning at 1:30 p.m. For more information, visit Granada Hills Holiday Parade dot org and that's a look at some things to do. And that's all for this week . I'm Natalia Bilbao and from all of us here at La this week. Thank you so much for joining us. Remember that you can watch us online anytime at La Cityview . Org. And we're also on Instagram, Facebook and YouTube . See you next time for more LA this week . There are things in every city that speaks to the heart and soul of every community in San Francisco. It is the Golden Gate Bridge in Chicago. It's the beam in New York. It is the Statue of Liberty in South Los Angeles. It's the Watts Towers. Hi my name is Rosie Lee hooks. I'm director of the Watts Towers Arts Center campus. Come visit the Watts Towers arts Center campus, where you'll see exhibitions. The Watts towers of Simon Rodia, our garden studio with turtles and tortoises and California natives. This massive man made sculpture is made of steel covered with mortar and embellished with mosaic tiles, glass, clay shells and rocks. The Watts Towers are truly unique and receive cultural heritage monument status from the City of Los Angeles. In 1963, like the community, the Watts Towers have a strong foundation and recycles different types of materials to create something breathtakingly beautiful. The Watts Towers Arts Center is a Guardian of the Watts Towers. It provides programs designed for cultural enrichment and museum and art education to the Los Angeles community and the world at large. With the recent adaption of the South Los Angeles and Southeast Los Angeles Community Plans, the Watts Towers Art center community will continue to shine and serve as the pulse of the community. There are . Muy bien. Buenos dias. Bienvenidos a nuestra. Reunion con Maria del Consejo Municipal de Los Angeles. Vamos a aceptar. El comentario publico en persona dentro de este. Salon Vamos a empezar. Nuestros procedimientos con pasar lista y vamos a eficaces con Como vamos a dirigir. Esta reunion. Blumenfeld Harris. Hernandez. Hut Nazarian, Padilla Park Christ, Ramon Rodriguez Soto >> Clerk: BLUMENFIELD, HARRIS-DAWSON HERNANDEZ HUTT JURADO LEE MCOSKER NAZARIAN PADILLA PARK PRICE RAMAN RODRIGUEZ SOTO-MARTINEZ YAROSLAVSKY. 15 MEMBERS, PRESENT AND I QUORUM, MR. PRESIDENT. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT, FIRST ORDER OF BUSINESS. >> Clerk: APPROVE AM *F MINUTES OF NOVEMBER 14, 2025. >> Council President: COUNCILMEMBER PRICE MOVES COUNCILMEMBER BLUMENFIELD SECONDS, WHAT'S NEXT? >> Clerk: COMMENDATORY RESOLUTION FOR APPROVAL. >> Council President: COUNCILMEMBER LEE MOVES, COUNCILMEMBER JURADO SECONDS, WHAT'S NEXT? >> Clerk: MR. PRESIDENT, TODAY IS TUESDAY, IT'S TIME FOR THE FLAG SALUTE. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT, WE'LL ASK EVERY ONE IN THED CHAMBERS TO RISE, FACING THE FLAG AND FOLLOW ALONG WITH COUNCILMEMBER HUTT. >> H. Hutt: PUT YOUR RIGHT HAND OVER YOUR HEART. I PLEDGE ALLEGIANCE TO THE FLAG OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND TO THE REPUBLIC FOR WHICH IT STANDS, ONE NATION, UNDER GOD INDIVISIBLE WITH LIBERTY AND JUSTICE FOR ALL.ALL RIGHT, MADAM CLERK LET'S RUN THROUGH OUR AGENDA. >> Clerk: YES, SIR. THERE IS A REQUEST TO CONTINUE ITEM 11 TO JANUARY 20, 2026, SIR. >> Council President: WITHOUT OBJECTION. >> Clerk: ITEMS 1 THROUGH 11 ARE ITEMS FOR PUBLIC HEARING. 12 THROUGH 24 ARE ITEMS FOR WHICH PUBLIC HEARINGS HAVE BEEN HELD. ITEMS 25 THROUGH 47 ARE ITEMS FOR WHICH PUBLIC HEARINGS HAVE NOT BEEN HELD. TEN VOTES ARE REQUIRED FOR CONSIDERATION. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT, WITHOUT OBJECTION, THOSE ITEMS ARE NOW BEFORE US. MEMBERS, ARE THERE ANY SPECIALS? MR. McOSKER. >> T. McOsker: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MEMBERS, I IT'S NICE TO SEE EVERYBODY. I LIKE LIKE WHAT YOU DID WITH THE LIGHTING, VERY ROMANTIC. I LIKE TO HOLD ITEM 15. AND ON ITEM 17 I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE FOR ONE WEEK TO TUESDAY DECEMBER 9th, PLEASE. >> Council President: WITHOUT OBJECTION, MR. LEE. >> J. Lee: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I WOULD LIKE TO REFER ITEM 35 BACK TO COMMITTEE TO HAVE A MORE ROBUST CONVERSATION ABOUT IT. >> Council President: TO HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS COMMITTEE? >> J. Lee: YES. >> Council President: COUNCILMEMBER JURADO. >> Y. Jurado: I'M INTRODUCING AN AMENDMENT FOR ITEM 32 AND I WOULD LIKE TO CALL THAT VOTE SPECIAL FOR AMENDMENTS. AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO CALL ITEMS 20 AND 23 SPECIAL FOR A SEPARATE VOTE. >> Council President: COUNCILMEMBER HUTT. >> H. Hutt: I WOULD LIKE TO CALL ITEM 21 SPECIAL FOR A TECHNICAL AMENDMENT, HE THE CLERK AND THE ATTORNEY SHOULD HAVE A COPY. AND WITH THEY READ THE TECHNICAL INTO THE RECORD, PLEASE. >> City Attorney: YES, WE DO HAVE A COPY OF IT. IT WILL BE POSTED ON THE BULLETIN BOARD SHORTLY, BUT THERE IS NO NEED TO READ IT FOR THE RECORD AT THIS TIME. >> H. Hutt: THANK YOU. >> Council President: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER HUTT. ANY OTHER SPECIALS? COUNCILMEMBER HERNANDEZ. >> E. Hernandez: I WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE ITEM 26 FOR ONE MONTH PLEASE. >> Council President: ONE MONTH. OKAY, MADAM CLERK. >> Clerk: ONE MONTH WOULD BE JANUARY--COUNCILMEMBER ONE MONTH WOULD BE JANUARY 13, 2026. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT. MR. BLUMENFIELD? >> B. Blumenfield: COUPLE OF THINGS, 6 CONTINUE TO TOMORROW. AND 17, REFER BECOME TOO COMMITTEE. IT WAS NOT A TECHNICAL ERROR BUT IT También tengo una modification on the side Councilmember Soto. Okay Soto Martinez. Gracias, senor president for el Punto. Cuatro tengo una modification okay okay. All right. Council member price. Thank you, Mr. President. I am recusing myself from item 47 de el punto cuarenta. Y por qué el burlador de mi esposa trabaja trabaja para Los las empresas. Qué aparecen concejal Rodriguez? Si 22 and 23 para Los puntos veintidos 23. Tengo una modification. Ya se esta circulando. Thank you. Gracias senor Presidente. Quisiera para el 23. Tengo un informe de el comité de presupuesto y para el punto 23. Tengo en una propiedad alquiler para 30. Otro tengo una modification de su instituto. ASI sera esperar para mostrar en este punto concejal Brahman. If disculpe Senor Presidente. Necesito second esta. Tenemos and ya tenemos de senor blumenfield 20. Otro es una motion de sustituto. No Si. Sorry. And before we begin. Okay, Mr. Herman, welcome to our meeting. This is Senor Herman. Bienvenido. A warning. There is no need to yell out as soon as you enter the room. So if you disrupt this meeting again, you'll be subject to removal pursuant to rule seven and rule 12. I'm sorry, counselor. Ya la tenemos. Qué sacar 45? Ahora para la senora? Sure. 45 on the desk. Vamos a esperar para tener en cuenta en el punto de hasta después. Councilmember Park City Council DESK? >> N. Raman: YES. >> Council President: COUNCILMEMBER PARK. >> T. Park: ON L.A. RECOVERY AND I WOULD ALSO LIKE TO ASK FOR THE ITEM TO BE CONSIDERED AFTER PUBLIC COMMENT. >> Council President: AFTER, PUBLIC COMMENT, THANK YOU. >> Clerk: IS THERE A SECOND TO MS. PARK'S MOTION? MR. NAZARIAN AND McOSKER, THANK YOU. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT. MR. NAZARIAN. >> A. Nazarian: GOOD MORNING, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I DON'T THINK THE LIGHTING SYSTEM WORKS, I PRESSED. ITEM 1 FOR COMMENTS. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT 1. ANY OTHER SPECIALS, MEMBERS? COUNCILMEMBER PADILLA? NO? NO SPECIALS? ALL RIGHT. ALL RIGHT. MADAM CLERK, IF THERE ARE ANY ITEMS BEFORE US? Yes. Mr. President, Council may now vote on items inL MAY NOW V ITEMS 12 THROUGH 14, ITEM 18, AND ITEM 20. >> AND ITEM WHAT? >> Council President: 2-0. >> Clerk: 1 THROUGH 14, 18 AND 20. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT, THOSE ITEMS ARE NOW BEFORE US. OPEN THE ROLL, CLOSE THE ROLL, TABULATE THE VOTE. >> Clerk: 15 AYES. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT, WHAT'S NEXT? >> Clerk: MR. PRESIDENT, PUBLIC COMMENT IS NEXT, SIR. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT. I'LL ASK CITY ATTORNEY TO PREPARE US FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. JUST SO FOLKS KNOW, ACCORDING TO THIS MONITOR THERE ARE 100 SPEAKERS ON THE QUEUE FOR THIS MORNING'S MEETING. SO WE'RE ASKING PEOPLE TO GET TO THE PODIUM AS QUICKLY AS YOU CAN, AND BEGIN SPEAKING ONCE YOU'VE ANSWERED THE QUESTIONS FROM THE CITY ATTORNEY. WE WANT TO GET TO AS MANY SPEAKERS AS WE CAN. I WILL TELL YOU, WE'RE NOT GOING TO GET TO ALL 100, SO IF FOLKS CAN BE EFFICIENT, WE GREATLY APPRECIATE HEARING FROM AS MANY PEOPLE AS POSSIBLE. >> City Attorney: TO PEOPLE PROVIDING PUBLIC COMMENT. WHEN IT'S YOUR TURN TO SPEAK, PLEASE STATE WHICH OF THE AGENDA ITEMS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO. YOU'LL HAVE ONE MINUTE PER ITEM UP TO THREE MINUTES TOTAL FOR THE ITEMS OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. WE'LL TELL WHEN YOU YOUR TIME IS UP. WHEN SPEAKING ON THE AGENDA ITEMS, YOU MUST BE ON TOPIC. OUR GOAL IS IS TO GET THROUGH AS MANY SPEAKERS AS WE CAN. IF YOU ARE NOT ON TOPIC OR IF WE CANNOT TELL WHETHER YOU'RE ON TOPIC, YOU WILL GET ONE BRIEF WARNING FROM ME OR THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT. AT THAT POINT, YOU NEED TOO GET IMMEDIATELY AND CLEARLY ON TOPIC. IF YOU DO NOT DO SO, OR STRAY OFF TOPIC, YOU WILL FORFEIT THE REST OF YOUR SPEAKING TIME AND WE WILL MOVE ON TO THE OTHER SPEAKERS. ITEMS OPEN FOR ARE 1 THROUGH 10, ITEMS 25 THROUGH 34 AND 36 THROUGH 47. SO AGAIN LET ME REPEAT, THE ITEMS THAT ARE OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ON THE AGENDA, ARE ITEMS 1 THROUGH 10, ITEMS 25 THROUGH 34 AND ITEMS 36 THROUGH 47. ITEM NUMBER 11 HAS BEEN CONTINUED AND ITEM NUMBER 35 HAS BEEN REFERRED BACK TO COMMITTEE. SO THEY ARE NOT OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT TODAY. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY ALSO SPEAK FOR UP TO ONE MINUTE FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. DURING GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY SPEAK TO ANY OF THE ITEMSING OR ANYTHING ELSE IN THE CITY'S SUBJECT MATTER JURISDICTION. I HAVE A COUPLE MORE ANNOUNCEMENTS IF I CAN MAKE THE INTERPRETERS MAKE THE FIRST ONE ALOUD TO THE ROOM. IF YOU REQUIRE A SPANISH LANGUAGE INTERPRETER, PLEASE MAKE SURE TOO PAUSE EVERY FEW SENTENCES SO THE INTERPRET ACRE INTERPRET. >> Interpreter: [SPEAKING SPANISH] >> City Attorney: DON'T WORRY, WE WILL PAUSE YOUR TIME WHILE THE INTERPRETERS ARE INTERPRETING SO YOU WILL GET THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME AS EVERY ONE ELSE. THANK YOU. >> Interpreter: [SPEAKING SPANISH] >> City Attorney: ADDITIONALLY, IF YOU'VE MADE AN ACCOMMODATION REQUEST OR WOULD LIKE TO AND NEED THE USE OF THE WIRELESS HAND HELD MICROPHONE, PLEASE LET THE SERGEANTS KNOW BY RAISING YOUR HAND ONCE YOU HEAR THE NAME THAT YOU SIGNED UP UNDER CALLED ALOUD. SO AGAIN, IF YOU REQUIRE THE USE OF THE WIRELESS MICROPHONE DUE TO AN ACCOMMODATION REQUEST UNDER THE ADA, PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND WHEN IT'S YOUR TURN TO SPEAK, AND WE'LL DO OUR BEST TO GET YOU THE WIRELESS MIC. ONE FINAL ANNOUNCEMENT, WE HAVE A LOT OF PEOPLE HERE TODAY. SO IN ORDER TO RUN AN EFFICIENT PUBLICHEARING AND TO HEAR FROM AS MANY PEOPLE POSSIBLE, WE'LL ASK THAT YOU PLEASE WAIT AND WAIT UNTIL YOU HEAR THE NAME YOU SIGNED UP UNDER CALLED ALOUD BEFORE YOU SIGN UP. THE NUMBER, RANDOMLY GENERATED. ONCE YOU HEAR THE NAME, THAT YOU SIGNED UP UNDER, YOU CAN LINE UP ON ANY ORDER IN THE LEFT HAND SIDE OF THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS. IF YOU CAN LET US KNOW WHICH ITEMS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO AND IF YOU WOULD LIKE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, AT THE BEGINNING, THANK YOU. >> Council President: MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC AND COUNCIL, JUST A QUICK NOTE ON THE LIGHTS. THESE LIGHTS ARE NEW ENERGY EFFICIENT ENVIRONMENTALLY FRIENDLY LIGHTS, SO THEY'RE BEING TESTED. SO YOUR OPINION IS VALUED WITH REGARD TO THE NEW LIGHTING. >> Clerk: I WILL BEGIN BY CALLING THE FOLLOWING NAMES, AUDIT L.A., JOE FREDERICKO, PAT ASH BEE, MARK SMITH AND CHRISTEN PETERSON. >> City Attorney: AND AS WE WAIT FOR THE SPEAKERS TO COME UP TO THE PODIUM, ONE FINAL INSTRUCTION FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, AFTER YOU FINISH PROVIDING YOUR PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU CAN DO A LOOP SO YOU'LL ENTER ON YOUR LEFT-HAND SIDE AND WHEN YOU'RE FINISHED YOU'LL EXIT ON THE RIGHT-HAND SIDE. >> Speaker: I'M JOE FREDERICKO. >> City Attorney: YOU HAVE A MINUTE. >> Speaker: THANK YOU FOR TAKING MY TIME. I'M I BOARD MEMBER FOR THE LOWER WOOD HE'S AND I REPRESENT A COMMUNITY OF 36. IN OUR COMMUNITY, WE HAVE MANY MEMBERS MORE THAN 36 PEOPLE, IT'S 36 UNITS, AND WE HAVE MANY MEMBERS THAT AREN'T INSURED, UNDER INSURED, I'M 40 AND AT THE VERY YOUNG END OF THE SPECTRUM AND WE'RE TRYING TO REBUILD. IT'S TIGHT, IT'S TOUGH. EVERY LITTLE BIT HELPS. PERMIT FEES ARE ON THE SCALE OF GRADING AND BACK FILLING FOR US ON THE SCALE OF OUR PLANTS, ON THE SCALE OF OUR DRIVEWAYS AND OUR WALKWAYS AND I'M HERE TO ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT, ANY LITTLE BIT HELPS AS WE'RE TRYING TO REBUILD AND I THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR TIME AND YOUR SUPPORT. >> City Attorney: NEXT SPEAKER. [APPLAUSE] GOOD MORNING, WHICH ITEMS WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO?Speaker: Y TO SPEAK TO ITEM 23. >> City Attorney: OKAY, SO ITEM 23 IS NOT OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT BUT YOU CAN SPEAK TO IT DURING GENERAL, YOU HAVE A MINUTE. >> Speaker: YES, THANK YOU. MY CONDOMINIUM AND OTHERS WERE DESTROYED BY THE FIRE. ONE RECENTLY DIED. CONDOMINIUM OWNERS REPRESENT ONE OF THE MOST AFFLUENT BUT EXCLUDED. A HIGH PERCENTAGE OF US ARE RETIRED, ON FIXED INCOMES, AND UNDER INSURED, WE VOTE AND ENTITLED TO THE RESOURCES. WE'VE LOST EVERYTHING WE'VE OWNED. HEIRLOOMS PASSED DOWN THROUGH GENERATIONS AND ITEMS TOO EXPENSIVE NOW TO REPLACE. WHILE OUR H.O.A.s STRUGGLE TO REBUILD. WE ASK TO YOU PLEASE REINCLUDED IN THE PROPOSED WAIVER AND PASS THIS IMPORTANT INITIATIVE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> Clerk: BEFORE THE NEXT SPEAKER, LEE PATRICIA, ROSE ANNE VANDLE AND VIENA NOEL. >> Speaker: IT'S NOT TURNED ON. Testing. You hear me now? You Good morning. Good morning. All items and general public comment. Yes sir. Go ahead. You have three minutes for the items and one minute for general. Okay. I'm going to start off with number one. Our fire department. Right. Like I, I feel we don't treat our fire department well enough. We don't fund them well enough. And when likeHAVE THREE MINUTES FOR THE ITEMS AND ONE FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. >> Speaker: OUR FIRE, THEY ARE THROWN UNDER THE BUS WHEN IT'S THE CITY THAT REALLY MAKES ALL THE DECISIONS AND THE MAYOR AND STUFF, AND THEN THEY GET. I'M HERE TO STAND UP FOR THE FIRE DEPARTMENT. TELL YOU TO PLEASE FULL MAKE SURE THAT THEY'RE FULLY FUNDED. IT'S NOT FAIR THAT THEY HAVE TO BAKE GOODIES TO BE ABLE TO MAKE ENDS MEET. IT'S TIME TO FUND THEM. YOU COULD FIND FUNDING IN OTHER WAYS RIGHT. AND LIKE SAY, LIKE THE ICE RINK, WHY NOT HAVE DISNEY OR THE THE OLYMPIC FUND THE ICE RINK AND YEAH, AS FAR AS THE LIGHTS FOR THE DODGER STADIUM, YEAH. I THINK THAT'S A GREAT IDEA BUT YOU KNOW, WHILE I HAVE THE DODGERS PAID FOR IT? I THINK THEY CAN AFFORD IT. WE CAN'T, WE CAN'T EVEN PAY FOR OUR FIRE DEPARTMENT. I KNOW SMOKING SCAN CANNOT CALL IN AND VOICE, THE WHOLE ENTIRE SMOKING SCAN CAN'T CALL IN AND VOICE THEIR OPINION BUT IT'S COMMON, I THINK THEY WOULD AGREE TO THIS. THAT OTHER OTHER ENTITIES CAN COME AND HELP PAY. THE DODGERS HAVE MONEY, THE OLYMPICS HAVE MONEY. WHY ARE YOU ROBBING THE FIRE DEPARTMENT TO PAY FOR AN ICE RINK, THAT'S JUST MY QUESTION. AND AS FAR AS THE LIGHTING ONES, YEAH, WE NEED LIGHTING. I DON'T KNOW WHY THERE IS ALL OF THESE PROTESTS TO LIGHTING. I'VE HAD A COUPLE OF ACCIDENTS, BECAUSE I CANNOT SEE AT NIGHT. PLEASE CONTINUE WITH THE LIGHTING. NOW I FORGET, WHEN IT GETS TO THE ONE MINUTE, IS THAT MY PUBLIC COMMENT? YOU ALWAYS LISTEN, WHO IS NOT LISTENING. I'M GOING TO TALK OFF TOPIC, I'M GOING TO TALK ON NUMBER 35. >> City Attorney: SO ITEM 35 IS REFERRED BACK TO COMMITTEE. >> Speaker: SO THIS MY PUBLIC COMMENT TIME? >> City Attorney: YOU'RE STILL ON? >> Speaker: I GET SO LOST. IT'S SO CONFUSING. >> City Attorney: GO AHEAD, CONTINUE. >> Speaker: I WANT MY PUBLIC COMMENT MINUTE. LIKE AM I STILL ON MY MINUTES. >> City Attorney: ARE YOU MOVING TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. THEN PLEASE FINISH YOUR MINUTES ON THE ITEMS. >> Speaker: SOMETIMES DO YOU IT ALTOGETHER AND SOMETIMES YOU DON'T. I WISH YOU COULD GET MORE SYSTEMATIC LIKE THA. I KNOW 35 YOU SAY WE CANNOT TALK ABOUT BUT ANYTHING BY MR. LEE UNTIL I GET MY APOLOGY HAS TO BE NO, RIGHT MR. LEE? BUT WHEN IT COMES TO THE LIGHTING, I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY THERE IS PROTEST. CAN YOU PROVIDE LIGHTING? OKAY, LIKE INSTEAD OF ICE RINK, I WOULD RATHER HAVE LIGHTING. INSTEAD OF A DODGER STADIUM, LIGHTS GO UP ON CITY HALL, I WOULD RATHER HAVE A FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT IS IT FULLY FUNDED. THE LITTLE THINGS IN LIFE. A FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT IS FUNDED AND LIGHTS, YOU KNOW, THOSE THINGS WILL BE VERY HELPFUL. OKAY, I'LL JUST SWITCH TO PUBLIC COMMENT. >> City Attorney: GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT, YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE. >> Speaker: I WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS ABOUT PARADE THAT HAPPENED THE OTHER DAY. I WANT TO KNOW WHY SCIENTOLOGY WITH THEIR BALLOON THAT FALLS EVERY YEAR, EVEN THE BALLOON, THEY DON'T STAND UP, WHY THEY HAD LIKE 20 COPS SURROUNDING THEM AS IF THEY'RE THE PRESIDENT, AS IF THEY'RE HIGH-LEVEL PERSONNEL? I WANT TO KNOW WHY YOU'RE SPENDING MONEY AND RESOURCES LIKE THAT? HOW EXPENSIVE IS IT TO HAVE 20 OVERTIME COPS FOR HOW MANY HOURS OF THIS PARADE THAT, YOU KNOW, THAT YOU'RE WASTING ON IT. LIKE I WANT TO KNOW? DID THEY SAY THEY'RE UNDER THREAT? I WANT YOU TO KNOW, SCIENTOLOGY, THERE IS NOT BEEN ONE INCIDENT OF ANY PROTESTERS ASSAULTING ANY PERSON FROM SCIENTOLOGY PEOPLE. BUT WE HAVE PROTESTERS ATTACKED BY SCIENCETOLOGIST. SO IF YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE ALL OF THIS POLICE PROTECTION, IT SHOULD BE AGAINST ANYONE WHO SPEAKS UP AGAINST SCIENTOLOGY. THEY'RE ALSO HARASSING PEOPLE ONLINE. THANK YOU. >> City Attorney: NEXT SPEAKER. >> Speaker: MY NAME IS PAT ASHLEY AND I'VE LIVED IN THE PALISADES FOR 60 YEARS. I DON'T NEED TO TELL YOU MORE THAN WHAT I HAVE EMAILED YOU, WE NEED YOUR HELP. WE NEED THE MAXIMUM HELP OKAY. WE DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY FINANCIALLY TO BUILD BACK TO WHERE IT WAS. BUT GIVEN THE LIMITED AMOUNT OF TIME AND I HOPE YOU DO READ WHAT I HAVE SENT TO YOU T HAS MY NUMBERS AND BREAK DOWN. AGAIN WITH THE SHORTER AMOUNT OF TIME, I JUST WANT TO SAY THANK YOU TO TRACI FOR GOING ABOVE AND BEYOND. [APPLAUSE] AND WITH THAT SAID, BY GETTING HELP, AND WAIVING PERMIT FEES, IT NOT ONLY HELPS US BUT IT HELPS THE CITY. Pueblo y Espero q tome orgullo q tengan orgullo en ajudamos a nosotros Como lo hace Tracy. Gracias siguiente. Comentario. Good morning. Which items would you like to speak to? Hablar comentarios y por favor. So you have one Paulina's that is not open abierto para comentario publico. Pero lo puede mencionar durante general tiene un minuto para comentario publico general . Una modification. Would you like to request it. Quieres solicitar comentario publico para eso si. Okay. Apologies. Item 15 is also open for public comment. So esta abierto para comentario publico tiene un minuto para el comentario publico y un minuto para el tema. Hola Jose. Crystal Palace's in Harbor City and Harbor City con mi madre por cuarenta anos y quieren construir un parque para vehiculos recreational en la misma calle de donde vivimos con surgeries. Harbor city, Wilmington, menos del promedio de ingresos tenemos cinco por ciento condominiums y cinco GENE REGARDING ITEM 23. FIRST OF ALL WE THANK OUR BEAUTIFUL AND LOVELY TRACI PARK FOR HER SUPPORT IN PALISADES. WE SUPPORT HER AND AD HOC COMMITTEE TO PASS ITEM 23. I'M 0 --80 YEARS OLD AND MY HUSBAND IS 84 AND WE LOST EVERYTHING IN THE FIRES. I SUPPORT YOU THAT YOU GIVE US THIS WAIVOF THE PERMIT FEES, NL ONLY FOR SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES BUT FOR COO OWNERS ALSO. [APPLAUSE] MANY FIRE SURVIVORS ARE UNDER INSURED. WE AT OUR AGE WOULD LOVE TO REBUILD BUT HAVING BEEN UNDER INSURED AND HOPEFULLY TO PASS THESE FEES WOULD BE A GREAT SUPPORT FOR US AND ENABLE US TO REBUILD. PLEASE CONSIDER THIS. [APPLAUSE] >> Speaker: GOOD MORNING, ROSEANNE LANDON PUBLIC COMMENT BUT IN REFERENCE TO THE FEE WAIVER OF THE PALISADES. >> City Attorney: YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE. GO AHEAD. >> Speaker: PLEASE A FEND THE FEE WAIVER ORDINANCE INCLUDE THE HOUSING OF PACIFIC PALISADES. CONDO AND MOBILE HOMES AND TOWN HOMES AND SMALL BUILDINGS AND PLEASE PASS IT. REBUILDING THESE HOMES IS ESSENTIAL FOR PRESERVING THE DIVERSITY. IN MY BUILDING ALONE, TWO-THIRDS ARE SENIOR CITIZENS LIVING IN FIXED INCOMES. OTHERS WORK IN THE FIELD IN CARE GIVING LIKE ME. MORE THAN HALF OF MY NEIGHBORS ARE WIDOWS OR SINGLE WOMEN. WE'RE NOT WEALTHY MILLIONAIRES OR MOVIE STARS, WE'RE JUST LIKE MANY OF YOUR COMMUNITIES. NOT--CONSTITUENTS. NOT ONLY ARE WE PAYING PROPERTY TAXES BUT ALSO HOA FEES AND NOW RENT. THE FIRE DID NOT ONLY DESTROY OUR POSSESSION, ELIMINATE THESE TAXES ON OUR RECOVERY AND LET US COME HOME. [APPLAUSE] . >> Clerk: BEFORE THE NEXT SPEAKER BEGINS, WOULD I LIKE TO CALL UP MICHAEL AKERMAN, KATIE, JOHN, SUE COLE AND KIM FEDER. >> City Attorney: GOOD MORNING, SPEAKER WHICH ITEMS WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO? >> Speaker: AGENDA NUMBER 23, PLEASE. >> City Attorney: THANK YOU REPEAT THAT. >> Speaker: NUMBER 23, PLEASE. >> City Attorney: YOU HAVE A MINUTE. >> Speaker: THANK YOU SO MUCH. UNTIL JANUARY 7th, MY HUSBAND AND MY TWO BOYS HAD LIVED IN PACIFIC PALISADES, WE HAD JUST RENOVATED OUR HOUSE, WE SPENT ALL OF OUR SAVINGS RENOVATING OUR HOME AND THEN A MONTH LATER IT BURNED DOWN. WE WANT TO MOVE DOWN, BUT BETWEEN THE ENGINEERING FEES AND PERMITS ADD ANOTHER LAYER TO THAT. WE REALLY WANT TO MOVE HOME, WE WANT ALL PEOPLE TO MOVE HOME. SO I AGREE WITH THE CONDO AND HOA, AND PERMIT WAIVING WOULD HELP WITH THAT PROCESS.YOU TO T SHE IS AMAZING AND WE REALLY LOVE HER. THANK YOU SO MUCH. [APPLAUSE] >> Speaker: MY NAME IS LEANNE SANDERSON AND I LIVE IN THE AMEDIO GLOVES. AND OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WAS DECIMATED, WE HAVE SO MANY SENIORS AND SO MANY HOMES FROM THE EARLY 1960s WHERE PEOPLE HAVE LIVED THERE FOR DECADES. AND WE'RE ASKING FOR YOUR HELP. I WOULD LIKE YOU ALL TO THINK ABOUT CD11, IF IT WAS YOUR DISTRICT AND YOU LOST 66,037 HOMES IN YOUR DISTRICT. WHAT WOULD YOU WANT FROM EACH OTHER. CAN YOU WALK IN TRACI PARK'S SHOES. SHE IS THERE FOR US. SHE IS THERE EVERY DAY, IT'S UNIMAGINABLE HOW HARD SHE IS FIGHTING FOR US AND IT'S ETHICALLY CORRECT FOR TO YOU GIVE US A START OUT IN THE STARTING GATES. I HAVE SO MANY SENIORS IN OUR NEIGHBORHOOD WHO JUST CAN'T GET OUT OF THE STARTING GATE AND THIS IS WHAT IS GOING TO LAUNCH THEM AND GET THEM STARTED AND LONG TERM, YOU WILL HAVE TAX REVENUE FROM PACIFIC PALISADES FOR DECADES AND GENERATIONS TO COME. >> City Attorney: AND BEFORE THE NEXT SPEAKER, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, IF YOU CAN LET US KNOW WHICH ITEMS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO AND WHETHER OR NOT YOU WOULD LIKE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. I WOULD APPRECIATE IT. IF NOT, IT WILL DEFAULT TO THE ONE MINUTE FOR GENERAL PUBIC COMMENT. GOOD MORNING, WHICH ITEMS? >> Speaker: GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. >> City Attorney: OKAY, YOU HAVE A MINUTE. >> Speaker: LET'S LOOK AT COUNCIL RULE NUMBER 7, IT SAYS PUBLIC COMMENT SHOULD BEGIN AT THE BEGINNING OF THE MEETINGS. YET WE HAVE TO WAIT TWO HOURS FOR PRESENTATIONS AND PROCLAMATIONS. MAYBE THE CITY ATTORNEY SAYS IT'S NOT WHAT THE RULE MEANS, ACTUALLY IT IS. MAYBE SOMEBODY TOLD YOU IT'S A MINOR ISSUE. THAT'S NOT FOR YOU TO DETERMINE AND TTSD FOR THE ATTORNEY TO DETERMINE IT'S THE JURIES. BUT PEOPLE WHO ARE SUPPOSE TO PUT QUESTIONS LIKE THIS IN FRONT OF JURIES ARE NOT DOING THEIR JOBS. PLEASE ASK THE GOVERN TORE HAVE INVESTIGATOR SO THE NATIONAL GUARD CAN LOOK AT MISCONDUCT HERE AND ELSEWHERE. >> City Attorney: GOOD MORNING, WHICH ITEMS? >> Speaker: HI I'M SPEAK TO GO ITEM 23. >> City Attorney: YOU HAVE A MINUTE, GO AHEAD. >> Speaker: I'M SUE COLE I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE PACIFIC PALISADES COUNCIL. I'M NOT SPEAKING FOR THEM, I'M LETTING YOU KNOW THAT OBL SO YOU UNDERSTAND THAT I HEAR FROM HUNDREDS, THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTS. I'M SPEAKING FOR MYSELF PERSONALLY TODAY. I'M A SENIOR, MY HOUSE BURNED DOWN AS DID EVERY ONE I KNOW. LOST EVERYTHING AND HAVE BEEN WORKING MY ENTIRE LIFE AND NOW BEING FORCED TO TAKE RETIREMENT SAVINGS TO HELP PAY THE BUILD BACK A HOUSE. I HAVE NO DESIRE FOR A NEW HOUSE. I LOVED MY OLD HOUSE, FUNKY AS IT WAS, I WOULD TAKE IT BACK ANY WEEK. MY REQUEST TO ALL OF YOU, IS IS TO PLEASE, PLEASE, PUT YOURSELF IN OUR SHOES AND TRY TO THINK ABOUT LOSING EVERYTHING YOU'VE OWNED YOUR WHOLE LIFE, THE UNINSURED AND UNDERINSURED AND HAVE TO BUILD BACK. THANK YOU. >> City Attorney: NEXT SPEAKER. GOOD MORNING, YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES FOR THE ITEMS AND ONE MINUTE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. >> Speaker: YO, YO, YO, EVERYBODY, I'M BACK. PUBLIC PAVE SEE MOTHER FUCKERS, THE BUDGET AND FINANCE FOR FIRE DEPARTMENT THAT BURNED YOUR FUCKEN HOUSES DOWN IN PALISADES. >> City Attorney: WHICH ITEM ARE YOU SPEAKING TO? >> Speaker: MOTHER FUCKER, YOU KNOW WHAT ITEM I AM, MOTHER FUCKER? >> City Attorney: YOU SAID 25? >> Speaker: BITCH 25-131, MOTHER FUCKER, YOU NOT HERE. >> City Attorney: I'M GOING TO ASK YOU POLITELY ONE MORE TIME. WHICH ITEM ARE YOU SPEAKING TO OR I'LL MOVE YOU OVER TO GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. >> Speaker: ITEM PUBLIC HEARING NUMBER 1-25-101 PUBLIC SAFETY COMMITTEE REPORT, LOS ANGELES FIRE CRIMINALS, FUCKEN YEAR 25-24. >> City Attorney: THAT'S FINE, JUST SAY ITEM NUMBER 1, NEXT TIME. >> Speaker: FUCK ITEM NUMBER 1, MOTHER FUCKER. I'M THE SOUL VANGUARD TO SAVE YOUR BITCHES HILLSIDE, I'M A FIREMAN! BUT TOO BAD, YOU SHOULD HAVE BEEN --SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN COMPLAINING ALL THE TIME.WHEN T GIVING PERMITS DUE TOLT FIRE. >> City Attorney: THIS IS NOT ON TOPIC FOR ITEM NUMBER 1 AND YOU'VE EXHAUSTED. >> Speaker: HOW ABOUT NUMBER 38, CAN I GO TO 38? HEY, FOO, I'M TALKING TO YOU. 38? YOU CAN SPEAK TO 38. HOW GOD DAMN BLUE FIELD, RESEDA SKATE FACILITY, FUCK SKATING. LET'S REBUILD PALISADES. HOW ABOUT 38 LIKE I SAID BEFORE, REGARDING THE GOD DAMN MOTHER FUCKEN SOTO-MARTINEZ AND THE FUCKEN SERVICE FOR COUNCIL DISTRICT 5, MOTHER FUCKERS. WHAT ABOUT ABOUT IT? WE'RE GOING TO TRANSFER APPROPRIATE FUCKEN FUNDS WHEN WE CANNOT EVEN GET STREET SERVICES UNDER 311, MOTHER FUCKER. AND MY PERMIT TO BUILD FUCKEN HOUSING WITH THE AUTHORITY OF BUREAU STREET SERVICES. >> City Attorney: THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH ITEM 38, THAT IS TREE TRIMMING AND MAINTENANCE SERVICES. >> Speaker: I'M ON ITEM 2 OF THAT--SECOND PARAGRAPH IT SAYS AUTHORITY ANY NEW INSTRUCTIONS, DICK HEAD ATTORNEY IN ORDER TO EVACUATE. >> City Attorney: THAT'S NOT APPROPRIATE. CAN WE HOLD HIS TIME AT A MINUTE. I'M LETTING YOU KNOW AS A COURTESY, WE HAD FOUR MINUTES TOTAL NORMALLY WE SEPARATE IT OUT, SO YOU'RE ABOUT TO GO INTO YOUR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. STARTING NOW, GO AHEAD. >> Speaker: LADIES AND GENTLEMEN OF THE JURY TODAY, UNTIL THE FEDERAL COURT AS JUDGE O-CARTER. >> City Attorney: MR. HERMAN, THIS IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE BODY NOT THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. IT'S YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE BODY, NOT MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. THIS IS YOUR LAST WARNING ADDRESS THE BODY OR YOU'LL FORFEIT THE REST OF YOUR SPEAKING TIME. >> Speaker: WHAT JUDGE DAVID O CARTER TOLD ME THIS MORNING ABOUT YOU CRIMINALS, YOUR CORRUPTION WITH HOUSING, MOTHER FUCKER. SO FUCKING WITH MY TIME, WITH MY MIND AND STOP FUCK WITHING MY INTEREST IN THE PUBLIC, WE THE PEOPLE TELL YOU WHAT TOO DO, WE THE PEOPLE TELL YOU HOW TO DO YOUR JOB, WE THE PEOPLE TELL YOU, FUCK YOU! 42 USC 9443 POL FOR THE RECORD, FUCK YOU GROAT. >> City Attorney: FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, WE APPRECIATE YOUR PATIENCE AND JUST TO CLAIRE FOR ANYBODY. THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD IS YOUR OPPORTUNITY TO ADDRESS THE 15 MEMBERS AROUND THIS HORSESHOE. IT IS NOT AN OPPORTUNITY TO GRANDSTAND AND ADDRESS ALL THE MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. WE APOLOGIZE FOR WHAT WAS SAID, BUT WE APPRECIATE YOUR CONTINUED PATIENCE. GOOD MORNING, WHAT ITEMS WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO? >> Speaker: ITEM 23 AND GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT AFTER. >> City Attorney: OKAY, YOU HAVE A MINUTE FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. GO AHEAD. >> Speaker: I'M JOHN ALLEY, THE CITY SHOULD NOT EXPLOIT NOR PROFIT FROM OUR LOSS IN THE PALISADES. REVENUE FROM PERMIT FEES SHOULD NEVER HAVE BEEN CONSIDERED IN THE FIRST PLACE BECAUSE THE FIRES, DESTRUCTION, ERASURE OF FAMILY HISTORY WERE DUE TO NEGLECT AND INCOMPETENCE OF THE CITY AND GAS COMPANY AND DWP AND MAYOR. WERE NEVER INCLUDED IN ANY YEAR'S BUDGET AS EXPECTED REVENUE SOURCE. PERMIT WAIVER IS KEY TO MY FAMILY AND THOUSANDS MORE. PROPERTY TAXES FROM THE PALISADES AND SUBSIDIZED SERVICES THROUGHOUT L.A. NOW THERE IS DELAY IN REBUILDING. THERE IS A GAP FOR ANY MIDDLE INCOME, FAMILIES BETWEEN THEIR INSURANCE PROCEEDS IF ANY AND ACTUAL COSTS TO REBUILD. DON'T HAVE AN EXTRA 60 TO 100,000 FOR PERMIT FEES. SHOW COMPASSION, BE FAIR. [APPLAUSE] >> City Attorney: NEXT SPEAKER. >> Clerk: BEFORE THE NEXT SPEAKER, BEGINS, I WOULD LIKE TO CALL UP LISA, KATHY, SUSAN COLLINS, ROSEANNE AND LOUISE KIRLAND. >> Speaker: THIS WAS ON ITEM 23. >> City Attorney: SO ITEM 23 IS NOT OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT AS PUBLIC COMMENT WAS HEARD AT COMMITTEE. SO YOU HAVE A MINUTE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. THAT BEING SAID, IF ANYBODY WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL PUBLIC COMMENT OR IF WE CANNOT GET TO YOU TODAY, YOU CAN DO TO IN WRITING AT L.A. COUNCIL COMMENT.COM. YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO FIND THAT EITHER VIA GOOGLE SEARCH OR IT'S AT THE TOP OF THE AGENDA AS WELL. WHICH ITEM WOULD YOU TO? >> Speaker: GENERAL QUOMENT, REGARDING 23. >> City Attorney: YOU HAVE A MINUTE FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. >> Speaker: I'M KIM FEEDER AND I'M THE PRESIDENT OF THE CASTLEMAR ASSOCIATION AND WE REPRESENT 25 MILLION IN TAX REVENUE FOR THE CITY ANNUALLY. I WANT TO DISPEL THE MYTH THAT ANYBODY IN PALISADES HAS THE RICHES TO REBUILD THAT IS NOT THE CASE, WE HAVE NUMEROUS ELDERLY, WE HAVE NUMEROUS PEOPLE ON FIXED INCOMES, WE HAVE NUMEROUS PEOPLE THAT WERE ALSO CANCELED FROM THEIR INSURANCE AND WERE LUCKY TO GET FAIR PLAN UNDERSHAOUSHD. I--UNDERINSURED. I WANT TO SUPPORT TRACI PARK'S WAIVER FEE. I WANT TO POINT OUT THE FACT TO YOU THAT WE DID NOT BUY A LOT. WE DID NOT BUY A LOT WHERE YOU PAY ALL OF THESE FEES, WE WERE BURNED DOWN BY A WILDFIRE THAT WAS OUT OF CONTROL AND COULD NOT BE STOPPED FROM OUR FIREFIGHTERS. [APPLAUSE] >> City Attorney: GOOD MORNING, WHICH ITEMS WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO? >> Speaker: GOOD MORNING, GENERAL ON ITEM 23, PLEASE. >> City Attorney: YOU HAVE A MINUTE. >> Speaker: I'M LOUISE AND I'M A NURSE, I HAVE A VERY YOUNG CHILD AND OLDER HUSBAND WHO IS SET TO RETIRE BUT HE CAN NOT BECAUSE WE LOST EVERYTHIN IN THE PALISADES FIRE. WE OWN A SMALL BUNGALOW FOR 29 YEARS, WHICH HAS SMALL SET BACKS THREE FEET, NOT CONSIDERED SAFE IN TODAY'S STANDARDS, AND HAVING 5 FEET OF DEFENSIVE SPACE TO PARTICIPATE IN LOWER INSURANCE RATES. SPEAKING OF WHICH WE'RE UNDERINSURED AND EVEN WITH SBA LOANS WE AND MANY OTHERS CAN ONLY REBUILD BACK SMALLER THAN WE HAD BEFORE. WITH THE CURRENT ELIGIBILITY AND ANY AMENDMENT THAT'S ARE MADE, PLEASE GET RID OF ANY HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS BECAUSE IT STOPS OR PUNISHES THE SMALL BUNGALOW OWNERS FROM INCREASING THEIR SETBACK. WE NEED TO GO IN AND OUT TO HAVE MORE DEFENSIVE SPACE IN THE PALISADES AND MORE RESILIENT AREA FOR EVERY ONE. SO I TOOK THE DAY OFF TODAY TO BEG YOU. >> City Attorney: SPEAKER, YOUR TIME IS EXPIRED.OD MORNING, WHI YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO? >> Speaker: ALL AVAILABLE ITEMS AND GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. >> City Attorney: OKAY YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES FOR THE ITEMS AND ONE FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. JUST FYI, THE ITEMS OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT ARE 1 THROUGH 10, ITEM 15, ITEMS 25 THROUGH 34 AND ITEMS 36 THROUGH 37, SO YOU HAVE THREE MINUTES FOR THOSE ITEMS AND ONE MORE GENERAL. >> Speaker: THANK YOU SO MUCH. I'M SUSAN COLLINS AND FIRST WOULD I LIKE TO THANK TRACI PARK FOR HER ADVOCACY ON BEHALF OF THE PEOPLE SHE SERVES. IF WE HAD A GOVERNMENT THAT CARED FOR PEOPLE HALF AS IT MUCH AS IT CARES FROM MAXIMIZING PROFITS, HOME AND LIVES WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN LOST. THE FACT THAT WE'RE HERE TO BEG THIS COUNCIL TO WAIVE FEES ON PROPERTIES WHICH DUE TO YOUR NEGLIGENCE BURNED TO THE GROUND BUT THAT'S WHAT HAPPENS IN LOS ANGELES. OUR CAO SAYS IT WILL CAUSE A DEFICIT. BUT CAN WAVING THESE FEES CAUSE A SHORTAGE IN THE GENERAL FUND UNLESS MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL KNEW THERE WOULD BE THIS LEVEL OF DEMAND AHEAD OF TIME AND ENCOUNTERED ON THOSE FEES. PROFITING FROM DEVASTATION IS NOTHING NEW FOR POLITICS IN LOS ANGELES. BUT I STILL STAND BEFORE YOU TODAY AND I RESPECTFULLY REQUEST THAT JUST FOR TODAY, JUST FOR TODAY--. >> City Attorney: CAN WE PAWS HER TIME. >> Speaker: DO THE RIGHT THING. >> City Attorney: SPEAKER, I BELIEVE THAT WAS WITH REGARD TO ITEM 23, THAT'S YOUR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. ITEM 23 IS NOT CURRENTLY OPEN FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. IS THERE ANY OTHER ITEM OR JUST 23? >> Speaker: GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. >> City Attorney: SO THAT WAS YOUR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT WHICH IS PART OF 23. >> Speaker: PART OF THAT TIME, I TALKED ABOUT OTHER THINGS, WOULD I LIKE TO RECLAIM MY ONE MINUTE. >> City Attorney: OKAY, HAVE TO TREAT EVERY ONE EQUALLY. THE ITEMS THAT YOU JUST SPOKE TO WAS DIRECTLY RELATED TO ITEM 23, SO IF THERE IS ANOTHER ITEM YOU CAN DO SO AT THIS TIME OTHERWISE WE'LL HAVE TO MOVE ON TO ANOTHER SPEAKER. >> Speaker: OKAY. THANK YOU. >> Clerk: BEFORE THE NEXT SPEAKER BEGINS, BEFORE THE NEXT SPEAKER BEGINS, WOULD I LIKE TO CALL UP DANA SMOKING SCAN, MELT ELDRIDGE AND JESUS ROJAS. >> Speaker: GOOD MORNING, I'M KATHY LOCKER. >> City Attorney: WHICH ITEMS WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO? >> Speaker: I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO THE ITEM CONCERNING MY HOUSE BURNING DOWN. >> City Attorney: OKAY, YOU'LL HAVE ONE MINUTE FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. AND IF YOU CAN HAVE EVERY ONE QUIET DOWN SO I CAN HEAR THE SPEAKERS, I WOULD APPRECIATE IT, THANK YOU. YOU HAVE A MINUTE FOR GENERAL. CAN WE RESTART HER TIME PLEASE. GO AHEAD. >> Speaker: OKAY, I'M KATHY LOCKER, I'M 82 YEARS OLD, I'VE LIVED IN THE PALISADES SINCE 1976. I RAISED MY FAMILY IN THE PALISADES. MY CHILDREN WENT THROUGH THE PALISADES SCHOOLS, PAW LEHIGH, WE'RE A PALISADES FAMILY. WE ARE BEFORE THE FIRE, WE WERE FOUR GENERATIONS LIVING IN THE PALISADES. MY MY HOME, MY DAUGHTER'S HOME, MY GRANDSON'S HOME, THEY WERE ALL BURNED, WE LOST FOUR HOMES AND ONE APARTMENT IN THE PALISADES. AND I WOULD LIKE TO REQUEST THAT YOU CONSIDER HELPING US TO RETURN TO OUR HOME, MY FAMILY WANTS TO GO HOME. AND I HOPE THAT YOU WOULD HELP US DO THAT BY WAVING THE PERMIT FEES. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [APPLAUSE] >> City MORNING, WHICH ITEMS WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO? >> Speaker: GOOD MORNING, GENERAL COMMENT PLEASE. ?AOUF A MINUTE, GO AHEAD. >> Speaker: I'M LISA SOLOMAN, I'M HERE TO PROVIDE A GENERAL COMMENT RELATED TO PACIFIC PALISADES. AND I'M A THIRD GENERALATION PALISADESIAN. OUR HOME LIKE MANY OTHERS WAS A EVERYTHING. AND I THINK I SPEAK FOR MOST OF OUR NEIGHBORS, BOTH IN THE PALISADES AND ALTADENA AND ANYONE ELSE WHO LOST THEIR ENTIRE HOME WHEN I SAY WE JUST WANT TO COME HOME. NOW WE NAVIGATE INSURANCE, SORTING TEMPORARY HOUSING ISSUES AND WORKING ON POTENTIAL REBUILDS, ALONG WITH HUNDREDS OF OUR NEIGHBORS AT THE VERY SAME TIME. THE TO-DO LIST IS ENDLESS, THE FINANCIAL IMPACT IS STAGGERING AND MANY OF US WERE UNDERINSURED. WE PAID TAXES. I'M GOING TO BE QUIET BECAUSE A. THANKS. IT WOULD ASSIST US WHEN WE DCIDE WHEN TO COME HOME FOR TO A 20U7B. HELP US, REBUILD THIS CITY, THANK YOU FOR CONSIDERATION OF 23 AND ANY RELATED AMENDMENT THAT'S MAY COME UP AND APPRECIATION TO TRACI PARK AND OUR AMAZING COMMUNITY AND NEIGHBORS MANY OF WHOM ARE HERE TODAY TO SUPPORT THIS. THANK YOU. >> City Attorney: GOOD MORNING, I ASSUME AND GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. >> Speaker: YES. >> City Attorney: YOU'LL HAVE THREE MINUTES FOERLT ITEMS AND ONE FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. AGAIN 1 THROUGH 10, ITEM 15, 25 THROUGH 34 AND 36 THROUGH 47, PLEASE BEGIN WITH THE ITEMS. >> Speaker: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, COUNCILMEMBER SMOKE SCAN, MY NAME IS DANE --DANA, LET'S START WITH ITEM 41. [SINGING IN FOREIGN LANGUAGE] She de nada sung in. She sang in Rua de Islay. She Juan de. Rang de rang de na. Told me what I sang while Yoshida de na love. No. Let's move on to itemS MOVE. DANA. [SINGING IN FOREIGN LANGUAGE] The second day. On my shoulder waylaid all the daylight. I boogie down to. Could I wash? No. Let's move on to item number 43. Enjoy De de de de nadaGUAGE] [SINGING IN FOREIGN LANGUAGE] Esta en lengua extranjera. Si Dana Bailey Kai. Now let's move on to General public. Before you go on, a general public comment, just as a reminder, I know we've offered this multiple times in the past. We can't force you to request an interpreter, but if an interpreter and you let us know at least 48 hours in interpreter, we will do our best to accommodate that. So again, you're welcome to sing, and you're welcome to sing in a different language. If you'd like an interpreter, just let the interpreter. Thank you. You have one minute for general public comment. Go ahead. Yes. General public comment. La Oficina de Secretario is providing a support for a community emotional hotline. The number. Is 424854567. Originally I set a regionalLY I PURCHASED THIS PHONE NUMBER FOR MY GODDESS DANA AND DANA SAYS SHE DOES NOT COMMUNICATE WITH ANYONE WITH LESS THAN 24 INCH SO. I'M USING THIS FOR EMOTIONAL SUPPORT. ANYONE CAN SEND ME TEXT MESSAGE AND TOMORROW I'M GOING TO DO VIDEO PHONE CALL AND I'M GOING TO CALL BACK, ONLINE, NUMBER IS 424-425-4567, I'M GOING TO DO EMOTIONAL SUPPORT PHONE CALL, W ANYONE SENDING ME A MESSAGE, I'M GOING TO CALL YOU BACK TOMORROW NIGHT. SO WE CAN REELECT SPINDLER TO CITY COUNCIL. ELECT SPINDLER TO CITY COUNCIL! >> Clerk: BEFORE THE NEXT SPEAKER BEGINS, WOULD I LIKE TOO CALL UP ROSANNA AND ARNE DRE A, HENRY WRIGHT AND VIVIAN CHEN. >> Speaker: BUENOS DIAS. [SPEAKING SPANISH] >> Interpreter: HI GOOD MORNING I'M SOPHIA MENDOZA I'M AN ACE MEMBER AND I WOULD LIKE TO GIVE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. >> City Attorney: YOU HAVE A MINUTE, GO AHEAD. >> Interpreter: [SPEAKING SPANISH] >> Speaker: [SPEAKING SPANISH] >> Interpreter: I TO PLEASE VOTE AGAINST COUNCILMEMBER LEE'S MOTION TO ALLOW CERTAIN LANDLORDS TO INCREASE THE RENT AN ADDITIONAL PERCENT. >> Speaker: [SPEAKING SPANISH] >> Interpreter: THIS COUNCID ON LEGISLATION REGARDING RENT STABILIZATION AND UTILITIES. >> Speaker: [SPEAKING SPANISH]t DOES NOT PROVIDE THE SOLUTION THAT THE CITY NEEDS TO GET OUT OF THIS HOUSING CRISIS, WE ALREADY HAVE THE STUDIES THAT HAVE ALREADY BEEN COMPLETED. >> Speaker: [SPEAKING SPANISH] YOU'RE MAKING THEE NEEDS OF THE LANDLORDS AND IT'S NOT RIGHT. >> Speaker: [SPEAKING SPANISH] Cinco Seis y ocho. We're veryrp DISAPPOINTED BY SEVERAL COUNCILMEMBERS SUCH AS THE COUNCIL MEMBERS FROM DISTRICTS 15, 5 AND 8. >> Speaker: [SPEAKING SPANISH] >> Interpreter: AND THERE WAS A CHANGE IN THE FORMULA FROM 60 PERCENT CPI TO 90 PERCENT CPI. >> Speaker: [SPEAKING SPANISH] >> Interpreter: AND DON'T H U LA BAH WAS THIS WAS A DEMOCRATIC VOTE THAT WAS TAKEN TO PROTECT TENANTS. THANK YOU. >> Speaker: GRACIAS. [APPLAUSE] >> Speaker: HELLO COUNCIL, I'M GOING TO SPEAK ON ITEM NUMBER 15 AND GENERAL COMMENTS. >> City Attorney: OKAY YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE FOR THE ITEM AND ONE FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. >> Speaker: I'M MARK, AT PROVED PLAN SETFORTH FOR HARBOR CITY RV LOT DOES NOT SHOW A SINGLE RESTROOM, SHOWER LAUNDRY ROOM OR SERVICE BUILDING, EVEN THE PLANS SUBMITTED BY THE DEVELOPER CLAIM COMPLIANCE WITH TITLE 24 AND 25. UNDER TITLE 25 THESE FACILITIES ARE MANDATORY IN EVERY RV PARK THAT CONTAINS DEPENDENT SPACES. AND THE HARBOR CITY PLAN CONTAINS NO NOTE TATION THAT ALL RV MUST BE SELF CONTAINED. THIS MEANS ALL 46RV SPACES ARE PRESUMED DEPENDENT WHICH TRIGGERS MANDATORY SERVICE BUILDINGS. A MINUTE STIRIAL APPROVAL CANNOT STAND, THE PERMIT WAS ISSUED ON INCOMPLETE PLAN SET AND MUST BE REMANDED. HOW DID SUCH A FUNDAMENTAL TITLE 24 AND 25 ENTITLEMENT GO UNREVIEWED? IT SHOULD BE MANDATORY AND FULLY REQUIRED FOR THIS PROJECT. NO EXCEPTIONS. THE DEVELOPER APPROVED FOR 46RV STALLS BUT BUILT 48 AND EVEN ROUGHED IN 7 MORE UTILITY HOOK UPBRINGING THE REAL CAPACITY TO 55RVs, THIS IS ON A SITE OF TWO AND A HALF SINGLE RESIDENT HOUSE NZ OUR AREA. THIS IS UNPRECEDENTED. THIS TAKES AND AFFECTS EVERY PERSON IN THIS ROOM EVERY NEIGHBORHOOD INCLUDING PALISADES AND ALTADENA. SHOWS UNAUTHORIZED EXPANSION SXZ EXTRA TWO TILT ISLANDS. YET HERE WE ARE, THE SIXTH TIME THAT I'VE HAD TO TAKE OFF WORK ADDRESS THIS.ING A CUP, MUST BE MANDATORY. I THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT. I THANK YOU TIM McOSKER YOU'VE DONE ABOVE AND BEYOND BUT NOW IS A TIME FOR ACTION. SIX TIMES IS ENOUGH TO TAKE OFF WORK, I SPECIALIZED IN INTERNATIONAL TRADE AND IT'S BUSIEST TIME OF THE YEAR. THANK YOU. [CHEERS AND APPLAUSE] >> City Attorney: GOOD MORNING, WHICH ITEMS WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK ON? >> Speaker: PUBLIC COMMENT REGARDING 23. >> City Attorney: YOU HAVE A MINUTE FOR GENERAL. >> Speaker: ROSANNA ROCKER, OUR MAYOR TOLD US WE WOULD BE SUPPORTED. OUR GOVERNOR TOLD US WE SUPPORTED. AND OUR PRESIDENT TOLD US WE WOULD BE SUPPORTED. WE NEED THE SUPPORT FROM OUR L.A. CITY DEPARTMENT OF BUILDING AND SAFETY. THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT IS GOING ON, OUR PROPERTIES HAVE BURNED DOWN, STRUCTURES HAVE BURNED DOWN, THEY'RE TRYING TO FIND OLD PERMITS AND DON'T EXIST. IF OUR STRUCTURES BURNED DOWN, LET US REBUILD THOSE BURNT DOWN STRUCTURES. IT'S NOT THAT COMPLICATED IF ALTADENA WERE L.A. CITY, WOULD THIS BE WAIVED MUCH QUICKER? WE'RE A COMMUNITY THAT WANTS TO REBUILD. PLEASE, REREPRESENT THE CITY OF ANGELS. WE ARE A CITY OF ANGELS, SHOW US THAT! HELP US REBUILD AND PLEASE WAIVE THE PERMIT FEES AND THE BOOR XRA --BUREAUCRACY THAT GOES WITH IT. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> City Attorney: GOOD MORNING, WHICH ITEMS WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO? >> Speaker: ITEM NUMBER 23, AND I HAVE PAPERS TO BE DISTRIBUTED TO THE COUNCILMEMBER IS THAT ALL RIGHT? >> City Attorney: YES, THE SERGEANT WILL COME GET THE PAPERS FOR YOU. >> Speaker: ONE-PAGE MAY BE FOR EACH COUNCILMEMBER. MAY NOT BE ENOUGH. >> City Attorney: YOU'LL HAVE A MINUTE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT WHERE YOU CAN SPEAK TO THE ITEM. >> Speaker: I LOST MY TOWNHOUSE IN THE PALISADES AND I LIVED IN THE CITY FOR 30 YEARS. SO I'M HERE TO PLEA TO INCLUDE TOWNHOUSES AND CONDOMINIUMS IN THE PERMIT FEE TO BE WAVED. MY HOUSE IS JUST, JUST LIKE A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME. WE HAVE ONE STRUCTURE, ONE ROOF, THERE IS ONLY ONE WALL DIVIDING MY UNIT AND MY NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS. SO WE ALSO PAY PROPERTY TAX, WE'RE TRYING TO REBUILD. WE'RE THE FIRST ONES WHO FIND AN ARCHITECT AND SUBMIT A PERMIT. I'M HERE TO PLEA THAT TOWNHOUSES AND CONDOMINIUMS REBUILDING FEES ARE ALSO WAVED. --WAIVED. WE ALSO PAY PROPERTY TAX, AND IT'S BEEN FIVE MONTHS SINCE WE SUBMIT THE PLAN AND WE HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING YET. THANK YOU. >> City Attorney: GOOD MORNU LI SPEAK TO? >> Speaker: ITEM 23. ?AOUF A MINUTE. >> Speaker: THIS IS A GENERAL COMMENT. I'M ANDREA, I LIVED IN THE PALISADES FOR 38 YEARS, I LITCHED THERE WITH MY HUSBAND AND MY SON. WE RAISED OUR SON THERE. HE ENJOYED LIFE IN THE PALISADES AND ALL THE AMENITIES THE PALISADES HAVE TO OFFER. AND NOW WE'RE HOPING THAT OUR GRANDCHILDREN CAN DO THAT AS WELL. WE'RE RETIRED WE LIVE IN A FIXED INCOME AND HOUSING COSTS ARE INCREDIBLE. WE STARTED REBUILDING BUT IT'S UNBELIEVABLE HOW MUCH CONSTRUCTION COSTS ARE. WE HOPE THAT YOU CAN HELP US BY PASSING THIS WAIVER AND THANK YOU TRACI FOR ALL THAT YOU'VE DONE FOR US. [APPLAUSE] >> Speaker: MY NAME IS BART YOUNG, THIS IS 23 AND I HAVE ONE MINUTE. I WANT START BY PUBLICLY THANKING TRACI PARK FOR DRAWING THE INITIATIVE TO WAIVE THE FEES. SHE GIVES US HOPE BUT WE DON'T HAVE TOO MUCH. Karen Bass, Departamento. Montes para. Electricidad InstituteFOR THESE ARE SERVICE COSTS. UNDER CALIFORNIA LAW A STANDARDIZE CHARGE IS A FEE REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU CALL IT. AND NUMBER 2, I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE DOLLAR AMOUNT IS, WE HEARD 86 MILLION, TODAY I HEARD 82 MILLION, REGARDLESS, THESE ARE OUTRAGEOUS NUMBERS. WE AS RESIDENTS ARE REQUIRED TO PAY ALL SERVICES TO GET THE JOB DONE. THIS IS NOTHING BUT EXPLOITATION, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. [APPLAUSE] >> Speaker: I AM TO SPEAK ON 23. >> City Attorney: YOU HAVE A MINUTE. >> Speaker: MY NAME IS HENRY WRIGHT, YOU BURNED MY HOUSE DOWN! YOU WANT ME TO PAY! ME? YOU BURNED IT DOWN. YOU HAVE CREATED ANIMAL FARM AS YOU SIT THROUGH THE TROTH AND FEED YOUR UGLY DISTORTED REALITY, REAL PEOPLE, AND REAL FAMILIES, GRIP EVERY CORNER OF MY COMMUNITY. L.A. BUREAUCRACY IS EVOLVED TO SERVE ONLY ITSELF WITH RULES, PAPERWORK, SLOGANS THAT REPLACED SUBSTANCE. WHO PAYS? ME! YOU BURNED USE AND EVERYTHING I OWN DOWN TO COMPLETE ASH WITHOUT PUTTING ONE DROP OF WATER ON IT! IT RAGED. IT RAGED UNTIL IT WAS A FOOT HIGH. IT WAS AN INFERNO ENGULFING MY HISTORY AND MY WHOLE BEING! DO THE RIGHT THING! [APPLAUSE]Attorney: NEXT SPEAKE. GOOD MORNING WHICH ITEMS? >> Speaker: GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT ON 23. >> City Attorney: OKAY YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE, GO AHEAD. >> Speaker: THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBERS FOR TAKE THISING IMPORTANT ISSUE TODAY. MY NAME IS LORI AND I LOST MY HOME DURING THE PALISADES FIRE. I'M HEAR TO ASK TO WAIVE ALL PERMIT FEES FOR ALL HOMES, CONDO, TOWN HOMES, I DON'T SEE THE DIFFERENCE, IT'S A HOME, IT'S WEIRD. SO PLEASE. RESPECTFULLY I WANT TO HIGHLIGHT THAT WE LOST EVERYTHING. THESE ARE NOT, THESE ARE REBUILD, THEY'RE NOT RENOVATIONS. WE LOST COMPLETELY EVERYTHING. THERE IS SO MUCH THAT NEEDS TO BE PAID FOR. IT WOULD BE AN ACT OF COMPASSION AND PROVIDE NEED RELIEF TO FAMILIES ALREADY STRETCHED TO THE LIMITS. IT'S A GESTURE THAT WOULD AND ALSO IT JUST WASN'T OUR FAULT. WE DON'T WANT TO BE DOING THESE REBUILDS. SO WE'RE BEGGING YOU, REALLY TRULY. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE]r: I WOULD LIKE TO CALL UP TOMAS DORIN HILDA SOLIS, SANDY TENAKA AND ELVA CUEVAS. >> City Attorney: GOOD MORNING, WHICH ITEMS? >> Member of the House and, um e por favor vote en contra del la motion de concejal y para prevenir algunos propietarios aumentan a alquiler por un por ciento Nacional para actualizar el acto de alojamiento. El lazo no era la solucion a la ciudad necesitaba para salir de esta crisis de vivienda no estan revisando Los datos y Los estudios estan haciendo tomando una decision politica y besando el culo a Los propietarios. They oppose the corporales corporaciones por favor apoyo de la ayuda. Necesitamos inquilinos con varios consejos incluyendo Los del distrito de cinco seis y otro cielo de cambiar la réduction de la CPI de noventa por ciento a 60 por ciento, CPI. El indice de precio del consumidor. Good morning, which item? Hablar de hablando para tres tiene un minuto para general. Hola, Jose. Tom Doran mrjohnson de Paris de la quinta . Generacion de Los padres de mi esposa vivieron cruzando. La casa de susARE PALISADESAN AND IN LAWS LIVES ACROSS. FOR GENERATIONS THIS HAS BEEN PLANNED --BEEN OUR HOME AND OUR CHILDREN PLANNED TO CONTINUE. MANY OF US ARE AT A BREAKING POINT. WAIVING THE FEES ASSOCIATED IN TODAY'S AGENDA WOULD BE FAR MORE THAN HELP DEVASTATED FAMILIES LIKE MINE GET BACK ON OUR FEET. IT WOULD HELP PROTECT THE FUTURE REVENUE THE CITY 6 LOS ANGELES WILL NEED IN THE YEARS AHEAD. PLEASE SUPPORT THE FEE WAIVERS ON ITEM 23 AND TRACI PARK'S AD HOC COMMITTEE. IT'S A SMART THING FOR LONG TERM FISCAL HEALTH OF LOS ANGELES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. [APPLAUSE] >> City Attorney: GOOD MORNING, WHICH ITEMS? >> Speaker: GOOD MORNING, I WOULD LIKE TO SPEAK TO ITEM 15. >> City Attorney: OKAY, 15 AND GENERAL OR JUST 15? >> Speaker: 15 AND GENERAL. >> City Attorney: OKAY, AND IF YOU CAN PULL THE MICROPHONE MORE CLOSE, GO AHEAD. YOU HAVE A MINUTE FOR EACH. >> Speaker: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. GOOD MORNING, I'M SANDY TANEKA I'M A 37 YEAR RESIDENT. I WOULD LIKE TO BRING YOUR ATTENTION TO PERFORMANCE STANDARD NUMBER 3, REGARDING A REQUIREMENT FOR AN 8-FOOT PARAMETER FENCE AROUND A RV PARK.7-FEET, WHICH IS A FULL FO SHORT OF THE MANDATORY HEIGHT. BUT THERE IS MORE, THE FENCE WAS PLACED ON A SLOPE CAUSING THE ENTIRE FRONTLINE OF CONSTRUCTION TO SHIFT FORWARD. AS A RESULT, THE FENCE DOES NOT MEET THE 20 AND A HALF FOOT FRONT SETBACK UNDER PERFORMANCE STANDARD NUMBER 4. AT GATE 2, THE SETBACK IS 17.3 FEET AND NOWHERE IN THE FRONTAGE DOES IT REACH THE REQUIRED DISTANCE. >> City Attorney: GENERAL. >> Speaker: IF THE DEVELOPER CANNOT MEET THE MOST BASIC MINISTERIAL STANDARDS, THEN THIS PROJECT DOES NOT QUAF FOR MINUTESTIRIAL AT ALL. I AND MY NEIGHBORHOOD WOULD LIKE TO SEE A CONDITIONAL PERMIT. THE SETBACK IS WRONG AND THE FENCE IS WRONG AND THE Good morning. Which item? Yes Qué quiere hablar? Hola, Jose. Carlos. Topo para tomar numero 23. No minuto para ganar. I will have two points to make. Tengo dos puntos para hacer un para mi . Trabajé para la ciudad de Los Angeles por veinte anos. Municipal Tratando reconstruir my casa. La necesitamos Podemos tener un punto numero dos familia con el proceso de presupuesto municipal pueda asegurar a todos ustedes con sigils. No van a sufrir de la falta de presupuesto estos cargos Como nunca. Lo van presupuesto lo Han repartidor por un plazo de cinco anos. Por qué no todos estamos construyendo el mismo ano sea cinco 26 veintisiete esto e pido . De esta motion refuerzo para ayudarnos nuestra tan querida Traci Park. Gracias. Good morning. GoodAttorney: GOOD MOR. >> Speaker: GOOD MORNING. >> City Attorney: WHICH ITEMS WOULD YOU LIKE TO SPEAK TO? >> Speaker: 23 THE FIRES IN PALISADES AND PUBLIC AND GENERAL. >> City Attorney: OKAY, YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE FOR GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. GO AHEAD. >> Speaker: GOOD MORNING, EVERY ONE, 3B AND COMMITTEE. I HAVE NOT BEEN HERE FOR A WHILE. BUT REAL QUICK, I WORKED IN THE LAW OFFICE FOR 30 YEARS. FOR THESE PEOPLE THAT HOUSES BURNED, I WOULD RECOMMEND IF YOU OWN A LOAN, FOR 30 YEARS, YOU OPEN A CLAIM UNDER TITLE SHOESER, THEY WILL REFER YOU TO BIG CORPORATE ATTORNEYS. THERE IS A YOUNG ATTORNEY THAT YOU FEEL LIKE YOU'RE NOT WORK WITHING T YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO CALL BACK TITLE HOME INSURANCE AND GET REFERRED TO ANOTHER CORPORATE ATTORNEY. YOU'RE GOING TO UNDER OMISSION, REMEMBER, YOU WILL NOT PAY A DIME SO THE CITY WILL PROBABLY BE RECEIVING LIKE 100 ATTORNEY LAWSUITS. TRUST ME ON THIS ONE, YOU NEED TO OPEN A CLAIM ON TITLE HOME INSURANCE. UNDER OMISSION PLEASE. AND I UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE GOING THROUGH, AND I, I, I UNDERSTAND PERFECTLY. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] . >> Clerk: I WOULD LIKE TO CALL UP NICOLE POLSON, PA TRISH A RICH WILLKEN, KATHY LOCKER AND LOUIS MADEL. >> Speaker: DON'T I GET MY OTHER TWO MINUTES. >> City Attorney: YOU WERE SPEAKING TO ITEM 23 FOR WHICH PUBLIC HEARING WAS ALREADY HELD TO COMMITTEE. WE HAVE TO TREAT EVERYBODY FAIRLY AND GIVE THEM THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME REQUESTED SO YOU HAD ONE MINUTE FOR GENERAL. IF WOULD YOU LIKE TO PROVIDE ADDITIONAL COMMENTS, YOU CAN DO IN WRITING. BUT FOR NOW, WE NEED TO MOVE ON TO THE NEXT SPEAKER. >> Speaker: OKAY. THANK YOU. >> City Attorney: GOOD MORNING, WHICH YTSZ? >> Speaker: ITEM NUMBER 15 AND GENERAL PLEASE. >> City Attorney: OKAY YOU HAVE A MINUTE FOR THE ITEM AND ONE FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. >> Speaker: THANK YOU, EVERYBODY. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND COUNCILMEMBER MY NAME IS NICOLE POLLSON AND I'M A RESIDENT OF GREEN MEADOWS WEST. I URGE YOU TO VETO AND REMAND THE CITY COMMITTEE ACTION REGARDING THE RV PARK. RVs ARE NOT HOUSING AND CANNOT BE TREATED AS HOUSING. AND THEY FAIL TO COMPLY WITH STATE REGULATIONS. FIRST, 18,000 THROUGH 18711.10, THEY'RE PARKS AND NOT RESIDENTIAL HOUSING.DISTINGUISH PROHIBIT FROM TREATING RV SPACES AS LONG TERM HOUSING UNITS. FURTHERMORE, THEY'RE NOT PERMANENT STRUCTURES, THEY DON'T NEED THE DEFINITION OF DWELLING UNITS. >> City Attorney: GENERAL. >> Speaker: LET'S SEE. LAMC FAILS TO COMPLY WITH STATE LAW, FAILING OCCUPANCY PARKS, THE CITY DEPARTMENTS DO NOT COORDINATE ON THESE TOGETHER, LADBS, HDCD ALL ARE SEGMENTED AND NOT TOGETHER, INCONSISTENT AND FINALLY, ISSUES WITH THIS RV PARK. THERE IS 46 SQUEEZED IN UNDER 2 ACRES ON OIL WELLS WITH NO REVIEW AT ALL. Forefront, right? When it doesn't eat, it should have required a conditional trigger. No no. Sucedio en este caso. Por favor, apply for conditional use permit on this project. Conditional para este proyecto for the safety of everyone. La seguridad de not just the community, but those that are van a vivir ahi por favor para si. Next speaker siguiente Como esta? Good morning sir. In which items would you like to speak to. Para hablar comentario general para todos por favor. Council member Gonzalez estoy rich Wilkins. Tengo 79 anos esposo en la Palisades. Nuestros nietos on next generation. Tenemos social cinco por ciento. Live in the Palisades. Palisades, Ancianos. On January 26 anos de enero, three generaciones de nuestra familia Viviendo. Ahi esta casa en Colorado. Shortage of insurance coverage for even a modest home with rebuilt costs, a minimum of $500 per square foot and coverage of only $350 per square foot. Ventura Quadrados no tenemos confianza en poder reconstruir volver a casa en permisos de otras urgencias pueden ser hasta dolares para una casa pequena, por favor tengan la oportunidad de volver a antes de qué nos? Marinos. Good morning. Which items? Same itemS? >> Speaker: SAME ITEM 23. >> City Attorney: OKAY, YOU HAVE A MINUTE. >> Speaker: I'M LISA LOCKER MY FAMILY COMMED PALISADES FOR FOUR GENERATIONS, WE LIVED HERE SINCE THE 70s, THIS COMMUNITY IS WOVEN INTO EVERY PART OF WHO WE ARE. THIS FIRE DID NOT ONLY TAKE OUR BUILDINGS, IT TOOK OUR HISTORY, STABILITY, EMOTIONAL STABILITY, FINANCIAL STABILITY. MY FAMILY ALONE LOST THREE HOMES AND THE DUPLEX THAT CREATED A RENTAL INCOME FOR US. DURING THESE TRAGIC DAYS, WE HAVE WORKED TO BUILD EVERYTHING THAT WE WORKED TO BUILD HAS BEEN REDUCED TO ASHES, MY MOTHER, MYSELF, MY SON, HIS WIFE AND MY GRANDCHILDREN ALL BECAME HOMELESS IN ONE IN JUST A MEATER OF A FEW SHORT DAYS. BEFORE THIS NIGHTMARE, WE NEVER IMAGINED BUILDING NEW HOMES, WE WOULD HAVE STAYED ROOTED IN THE COMMUNITY THAT SHAPED US. I'M ASKING YOU ON BEHALF OF MY NEIGHBORS AND FAMILY AND FRIENDS TO WAIVE ALL PERMITS FOR FAMILY REBUILDS. [APPLAUSE] >> City Attorney: THANK YOU, NEXT SPEAKER. >> Clerk: I WOULD LIKE TO CALL UP, REBECK A LOWE, MICHELLE, ED SHRIMP, ROGER ALAN, DAPHNE AND HARRIETTE ELLIOT. >> Speaker: HI GOOD MORNING. >> City Attorney: GOOD MORNING, WHICH ITEMS? >> Speaker: GENERAL COMMENT FOR 23. >> City Attorney: OKAY, SO YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE, GO AHEAD. >> Speaker: HI I'M REBECCA, I'M 63 AND WITH MY HUSBAND, OWNED MY HOME IN THE PALISADES FOR 34 YEARS, IT'S WHERE WE RAISED OUR TWO KIDS. AS A MOTHER, THERE IS NOTHING I WANT MORE THAN TO PROVIDE THE SANCTUARY FOR MY FAMILY AGAIN, ESPECIALLY DURING THE HOLIDAYS OF COURSE. THE CHRISTMAS DECLARATIONS THAT MAY PARENTS MADE BEFORE I WAS BORN AND HANDED DOWN TO ME, LIKE MY SON'S FIRST BASEBALL GLOVE, AND THE DOLL HOUSE THAT MY HUSBAND MADE FOR OUR DAUGHTER, ALL GONE. STILL, WE WANT TO REBUILD. WE WANT TO RETURN. RECREATE, INVEST IN THE FUTURE. WE NEED L.A.'S HELP. WE ARE ALL TRAUMATIZED. WE NEED YOUR HELP TO GO HOME. THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> City Attorney: GOOD MORNING, WHICH ITEMS? >> Speaker: HI MICHELLE MURPHY GENERAL COMMENT REGARDING ITEM 23. >> City Attorney: OKAY YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE, GO AHEAD. >> Speaker: I LIVED IN THE PALISADES, BOUGHT A HOME, I'M A SINGLE MOM, I DO NOT HAVE A TRUST FUND. I DO NOT HAVE FAMILY MONEY. I DO NOT GET CHILD SUPPORT, I DO NOT GET ALIMONY, I'M A BUSINESS OWNER WHO BOUGHT A HOME IN 2020 FOR ME AND MY TWO BOYS AND LOST EVERYTHING. I SOLD THE LOT NOT BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO GO IN THE PALISADES. I DO WANT TO GO BACK. IT DID NOT MAKE SENSE TO HAVE A MORTGAGE WHILE THE CITY FIGURES OUT TO DO THE RIGHT THING. MY INTENTION IS TO BUY BACK IN WHEN YOU FIGURE IT OUT. I CANNOT AFFORD TO WAIT IT OUT FOR EVERYBODY. THANK YOU TO TRACI PARK, I WISH YOU WERE, I WISH I COULD CLONE YOU. [APPLAUSE] IT'S A LOT OF PRESSURE, I KNOW, FOR YOU, YOU'RE JUST ONE PERSON BUT YOU'RE HOPE FOR OUR COMMUNITY AND I HOPE TO SEE YOU SOON IN THE PALISADES. [APPLAUSE] >> City Attorney: GOOD MORNING, WHICH ITEMS? >> Speaker: ITEM NUMBER 23, GENERAL COMMENT. >> City Attorney: YOU HAVE ONE MINUTE, GO AHEAD. >> Speaker: I'M HE WILL A, I'M 69 YEARS OLD, I BOUGHT MY HOME 28 YEARS AGO, RAISED MY TWO CHILDREN THERE, WORKING FULL-TIME AS A SINGLE-PARENT. I RETIRED DECEMBER 31 OF LAST YEAR, A WEEK LATER, MY HOUSE BURNED DOWN. WE LOST EVERYTHING. I'M REBUILDING, WHICH IS CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION, I MADE THIS DECISION BASED ON MAYOR BASS'S WORD TO WAIVE FEES AND ALLSTATE IS IT HOLDING BACK A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MY COVERAGE, SO I MAY BE FORCE TODAY USE MY RETIREMENT MONEY UNTIL THINGS ARE SORTED OUT. THE FACT THAT PEOPLE THINK THAT EVERY ONE IN THE PALISADES ARE RICH, ARE MISGUIDED. 42 PERCENT EARN LESS THAN 150,000 DOLLARS A YEAR, AND MOST RETIRED. 22 PERCENT UNDER 75. I ASK THAT YOU WAIVE THE FEES. IT'S GOING TO BRING MONEY TO THE TAXES. >> City Attorney: SPEAKER, YOUR TIME IS EXPIRED. >> Speaker: FOR ME, I DON'T KNOW IF I'M REBUILDING TO COME BACK HOME OR TO SELL. [APPLAUSE] >> City Attorney: GOOD MORNING, WHICH ITEMS? >> Speaker: ITEM 23. >> City Attorney: OKAY, YOU HAVE A MINUTE FOR GENERAL. >> Speaker: THANK YOU. THANK YOU TRACI PARK, THANK YOU, CITY COUNCIL. I'M ALAN, MY FAMILY HOME OF 62 YEARS IN PALISADES WAS SIGNIFICANTLY DAMAGED BY SMOKE IT DID NOT BURN DOWN. HOWEVER TO, TO RESTORE OUR HOME, IT IS BEEN SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT OF MONEY, WE'RE OVER $250,000 SO FAR AND WE'RE NOWHERE NEAR TO BE DONE. AS WELL AS CONDOS, APARTMENTS AND TRAILER PARK AND PALISADES. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. [APPLAUSE] >> City Attorney: GOOD MORNING, WHICH ITEMS? >> Speaker: SPEAKING ON ITEM 23. >> City Attorney: OKAY, YOU FO. >> Speaker: I FIND IT IRONIC NA I'M HERE EXACTLY 47 WEEKS AFTER ESSENTIALLY THE FIRST ALERT WENT TO SOME OF US TO POTENTIALLY EVACUATE. AND I STAND BEFORE YOU AS A OWNER OF A PLOT OF DIRT IN THE PALISADES. AROUND 180 HOMES AND CONDOMINIUMS AND OTHER SMALL BUILDINGS IN THE AREA, ABOUT 8 OF THEM YET. SO I'M VERY NERVOUS AND I HAVE NOT BEEN REALLY ABLE TO CRY. OUR HOME OF 27 YEARS WITH ALL FAMILY PHOTOS, TROPHIES AND HEIRLOOM JUST DISAPPEARED. AS FAR AS WE CAN TELL, NO FIREFIGHTERS, EVER CAME TO OUR STREET, EITHER BECAUSE THERE WAS NO WATER IN THE RESERVOIR OR BECAUSE THEY NEVER GOT THERE. SINCE JANUARY, IT SEEMS LIKE OUR COMMUNITY IS WAITING TO HAVE OUR BACK OTHER THAN THE COUNCIL PERSON. WE NEED YOU TO WAIVE FEES AND SUPPORT US TO WE CAN HELP SUPPORT YOU. [APPLAUSE] >> City Attorney: NEXT SPEAKER? GOOD MORNING, WHICH ITEMS? >> Speaker: 2 AND 3 AND GENERAL HAVE TWO MINUTES FOR THE ITEMS AND ONE GENERAL. >> Speaker: I HAVE A SECOND TO TALK ABOUT THE ITEMS WHICH ARE ABOUT LIGHTING. I DON'T KNOW HAVE LIGHTING IN FRONT OF MY HOUSE, OKAY. SOMETIMES I HAVE, THERE IS LIGHTING AROUND THE SIDES. THIS IS ACTUALLY VERY IMPORTANT. LAST TIME THERE WAS SOMETHING ABOUT SENSORS, YOU GETTING THE NEWEST SENSORS, YOU KNOW THAT--. >> City Attorney: THIS SOUNDS LIKE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. I'M GOING TO MOVE TO YOU GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. >> Speaker: I'M GOING TO GENERAL, THEN STOP, OKAY. BEFORE I TALKED ABOUT 20 PEOPLE AROUND ME GETTING CANCER. IT'S A POSSIBILITY I HAVE THE SIGNS OF CANCER ALSO. AND MY DOCTOR, I NEED TO GET AWAY FROM HIM, HE ACTUALLY DESCRIBED ESTMORIM AND I THREW THEM OUT. ALMOST 100 OF DON'T RESPECT THI NEED TO GET AWAY, HIS NAME IS SIMIAC COHEN. THERE WAS AN INCIDENT WHERE I MISUNDERSTOOD HIM AND IT LOOKS LIKE IT WAS CHALLENGING HIS MASCULINITY, AND HE CAN'T GET OVER IT. AND I'M NOT ACCEPTING ANYTHING HE SAID ABOUT ME.IT'S TRUE THAT ACCEPT MY, CANCER FOR COLON TESTS, THEN THEY MAKE ME WAIT FOR THE NEW DOCTOR TWO EXTRA MONTHS, TILL JANUARY 20th. I WAS SUPPOSE TO SEE A NEW DOCTOR RIGHT AWAY, CHATA AND YET WHAT HAPPENED WAS, WHEN I'M CALLING KAISER. >> Clerk: ONE MINUTE GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. >> Speaker: THAT'S IT, YEAH. >> Council President: NEXT SPEAKER. >> Clerk: COUNCIL PRESIDENT, THAT'S ALL THE SPEAKERS FOR THE ALLOTTED TIME. >> Council President: THANK YOU SO MUCH. AND THANK YOU TO EVERYBODY WHO CAME TO GIVE TESTIMONY FOR THIS MORNING'S MEETING. MADAM CLERK, WHAT IS BEFORE US AT THIS TIME? >> Speaker: WE NEED MORE TIME. >> Clerk: MR. PRESIDENT, ITEM 47 WAS CALLED SPECIAL BY MR. PRICE FOR RECUSAL, SIR. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT, MR. PRICE WILL RECUSE HIMSELF. >> Speaker: MORE PEOPLE WAITING TO SPEAK. >> Council President: I INDICATED AT THE BEGINNING THAT WE WERE NOT GOING TO GET TO 135 SPEAKERS, BECAUSE WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE BUSINESS. SO IN ORDER TO GET TO THE BUSINESS THAT YOU CAME FOR, WE HAD WELL OVER AN HOUR OF PUBLIC COMMENT. >> Speaker: YOU SERVE US. >> City Attorney: SO SPEAKER, AGAIN. WE APPRECIATE EVERY ONE BEING HERE. BUT WE DO NEED TO GET ALONG WITH CITY BUSINESS. >> Council President: AND WE'RE TRYING SERVE YOU BY GETTING TO THE ITEMS YOU CAME FOR. LET'S GET TO 4, OPEN THE ROLL, CLOSE THE ROLL, TABULATE THE VOTE. >> Clerk: 14 AYES. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT, WE'LL BRING MR. PRICE BACK. WHAT'S NEXT? >> Clerk: COUNCIL MAY NOW VOTE ON ITEMS 2 THROUGH 10, 25, 27, THROUGH 42, 44 AND 46 SIR. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT, OPEN THE ROLL ON THOSE Martinez. Item number three, Fort Worth, please. Item number three Fort Worth, without objection, that will be ordered . All right. What's next? Ordenado. So item 30 is a request. Imediatamente. También tenemos la edicion para el punto ordenado. Item number one. And that was ahora tenemos el numero one. Councilmember Punto Councilmember Nazario Senor Nazarian, thank you. Council president and colleagues I just wanted to rise and say that while I will be supporting this, this measure, I couldn't help but notice, uh, the fee changes . And on one of them, on the patio, notice that it's being reduced by $2 from 287 to 285. Again, while I support this recommendation, ITO 285, AGAIN SUPPORT THIS RECOMMENDATION, I JUST WANTED TO BRING NOTICE THAT WE ARE GOING TO BE WORKING ON FILMING RELATED PERMITTING ISSUES AND SO THERE WILL BE A LOT MORE TO COME. BUT, A LOT TO COME IN ORDER TO ADDRESS THE GROWING NEEDS THAT WE'VE HAD IN THE ENTER STATEMENT INDUSTRY, A 2 DOLLAR CHANGE IN PERMITTING FEE DOES NOT ADEQUATE LEA --ADEQUATELY ADDRESS THE NEED BUT IT WILL BE A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. >> Council President: OKAY, CLO TABULATE THE VOTE. 1-5 AYES. ALL RIGHT, WHAT'S NEXT? >> Clerk: NEXT WOULD BE ITEM 15 AND THAT WAS CALLED SPECIAL BY COUNCILMEMBER McOSKER, THERE IS AN AMENDMENT McOSKER-PARK THAT HAS BEEN SUBMITTED AND CIRCULATED SIR. >> Council President: COUNCILMEMBER McOSKER. >> T. McOsker: THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MR. PRESIDENT AND MEMBERS. ITEM NUMBER 15, WE HAVE SEEN A COUPLE OF TIMES. AND I KNOW IT'S BEEN IN COMMITTEE. THE NARROW QUESTION, IF YOU WILL BEFORE US, IS THIS A PROJECT FOR WHICH THE APPLICANT HAS APPLIED? THAT CAN BE APPROVED MINISTERIALY ER-THE-COUNTER. AND I'VE ARTICULATED MANY ARGUMENTS HAS A CREDIT A C.U.P.IS REQUIRED. AND AS YOU KNOW, LAWYERS VERY OFTEN ARGUE IN THE ALTERNATIVE, SO I'M GOING TO LAY ALL THREE OF THEM OUT AT LEAST BUT I WANT TO FOCUS ON ONE TODAY, WHICH IS THE SUBJECT OF THE AMENDING MOTION. THE USE ITSELF, AN RV PARK, THE DEFINITION OF THE USE ITSELF, SAYS THAT THIS IS A FACILITY THAT IS AUTHORIZED BY A CONTINUAL USE PERMIT. --CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT. WE SHOULD BEGIN AND END RIGHT THERE. THAT REQUIRES A C.U.P. I REALIZE THAT THERE IS A GREAT DEAL OF ANGST AND DISCUSSION AS TO WHY THAT IS NOT THE CASE, COMING FROM OUR STAFF. SOMETIMES I THINK THEY OVER ARGUE IT, BUT IF WE GO TO THE SECTION THAT THEY RELY ON, NA HAS BEEN RELIED ON BY THE APPLICANT AND BY SOME MEMBERS OF THE STAFF, YOU LOOK AT SECTION 14.00 OF THE MUNICIPAL CODE, IT'S TECHNICALLY A 7, AND IT SAYS THAT AN RV PARK IS PERMITTED BECAUSE IT'S A PUBLIC BENEFIT, PUBLIC BENEFIT IS NEVER DEFINED, ARTICULATED IN THE CODE. BUT IT ALLOWS IT TO GO INTO IN RESIDENTIAL ZONE ACCORD TO GO SOME PEOPLE'S READING, BUT WHEN ONE LOOKS AT THE SUBSECTION, IT ALSO SAYS THAT IT HAS TO BE LAWFULLY AUTHORIZED ON THE DATE OF THAT ORDINANCE CHANGE, WHICH ORDINANCE WAS ADOPTED WELL BEFORE THE DEFINITION. SOMEHOW OUR STAFF READS THAT ON THE CODE AS WELL, THERE IS A LOT OF GYMNASTICS GOING ON HERE, SO WE READ OUT OF THE CODE, THE DEFINITION OF THE USE, WE READ OUT FLT CODE, THE REQUIREMENT THAT IT WOULD BE ESTABLISHED WHICH RELATES BACK TO THE DEFINITION. THOSE ARE TWO ARGUMENTS THAT IS GOING TO SET ASIDE FOR A MINUTE. I WANT TO GO TO OUR STAFF ARGUMENT. WHEN ONE LOOKS AT 14.00 A-7, IT SAYS THAT IN A RESIDENTIAL ZONE AND OTHER ZONES, IF YOU MEET THE FOLLOWING 12 CRITERIA, IT IS A MINISTERIAL APPROVAL, IF L AND THEY'RE LAID OUT, THEN A CUP IS REQUIRED. I'M GOING TO TAKE THE MOST GENEROUS READING OF THE CODE FOR THE APPLICANT WHICH I DISAGREE WITH, BUT LET'S LET'S TAKE STAFF'S ARGUMENT. IF YOU MEET THE 12 CRITERIA, YOU CAN MOVE FORWARD. IF YOU DON'T MEET IT, A CUP IS REQUIRED. UNFORTUNATELY, IT TOOK TWO, 245 MOTIONS WHILE THIS KEMENT GETTING PUSHED FORWARD AND PUSHED FORWARD AND SOMEHOW STAFF WAS RELYING ON UPON A SHEET THAT SAYS, THE APPLICANT WROTE THIS, THE PROJECT NEEDS ALL LOS ANGELES PERFORMANCE STANDARDS AND METRICS UNDER 14.00. IT DOESN'T, IF THE PLAN AND FOR SOME REASON WE BOUGHT IT. IF THIS PLANT SHEET HAD SAID THE EARTH IS FLAT, I'M ASSUMING THAT THERE IS PLANNERS THAT WOULD PROFESS THAT THE EARTH IS FLAT. THIS DOES NOT MEET THE STANDARDS ITSELF. AND ON THE SECOND 245 WHAT CAME BACK TO US, AFTER NUMEROUS, MANY MANY MANY ARGUMENTS MADE BY THE APPLICANT BY THE APPELLANT, EXCUSE ME, BY THE APPELLANT ON SEVERAL OF THE EMISSIONS, WE HAVE A REPORT THAT TELLS US THAT CONDITION 3 AND CONDITION 4 AND CONDITION 5, AREN'T MET. THAT SHOULD BE FULL STOP RIGHT THERE ON THE MOST GENEROUS READING, THAT SHOULD BE FULL STOP. BUT SOMEHOW WE DON'T GET THERE. WHAT WE DO GET, FROM THE, FROM THE DETERMINATION LETTER, THE SECOND ONE THAT HAD TO COME OUT BECAUSE WE HAD IT TWICE! WE HAVE A STATEMENT THAT AN RV PARK, THIS IS IN CONCLUSION OF THE COUPLE OF HUNDRED PAGES OF REPORT: AN RV PARK CAN BE APPROVED UNDER THE SECTION I DESCRIBED, IF IT COMPLIES WITH THE REQUIRED PERFORMANCE STANDARDS. A CONDITIONAL USE PERMITS, THESE ARE NOT MY WORDS, THESE ARE STAFF'S WORDS ARE REQUIRED ONLY IF ONE OR MORE OF THE STANDARDS ARE NOT MET. AND THEN WE GO ON TO READ, THAT IN FACT, WE ARE UNCLEAR, AND BELIEVE THAT STANDARD 3, STANDARD 4 AND STANDARD 5 ARE NOT MET. 3 DEALS WITH THE WALLS AND WE HEARD TESTIMONY AND WALLS ARE IMPORTANT BECAUSE THEY DEFINE BOUNDARIES AND SETBACKS AND BUFFER ZONES FPT WE SEE THAT IN ITEM 4 WHICH IS A DEFINITION OF WHERE THE SETBACK HAS TO GO, THAT IS REALLY REALLY CLEAR. THAT TWO THINGS CAN'T HAPPEN, THEY CAN'T MEET THE PREVAILING SETBACK OF 20 FEET AND ALSO SQUEEZE IN 46RVs, IT'S IMPOSSIBLE, MATHEMATICALLY IMPOSSIBLE. ALTHOUGH WHEN ONE LOOKS AT THE PROJECT, THEY PROBABLY HAVE OVER 50 STUB OUTS, SO THEY'RE PLANNING ON PROGRAMMING THEM IN AS TIGHTLY AS POSSIBLE. WE'LL PUT THAT ISSUE ASIDE. AND ITEM 5 DEALS WITH THE LANDSCAPE AND BUFFER ZONE WHICH ALSO DEFINES THE SIZE OF THE PROJECT. SO IT'S VERY SIMPLE PROPOSITION, IF THIS IS THE PROJECT, A CUP IS REQUIRED. THE SETBACK, ADDED TO THE PLANS, ADDED PLANS, THAT SOUNDS LIKE A CHANGE TO ME. PLANS MUST ALSO BE UPDATED, THAT'S A WORD FOR CHANGE, A DIFFERENT PROJECT. THE PLANS MUST BE UPDATED TO REFLECT THE CHANGES THAT MUFBT NEEDED. NOT HAVING LABELS FOR A PLAN IS DESIGNED FOR THING, TO BLOW PAST THE STAFF AND GET A MINISTERIAL APPROVAL THAT REQUIRES A CUP. FOR CLEAR LABELS ANY PORTION OF THE RV PARK IN THE LANDSCAPE BUFFER WHICH WE KNOW, TODAY MATHEMATICALLY, THEY'RE IN THE . ANY PORTION OF THE RV PARK MUST BE RELOCATED, AND ADJUSTMENTS RELOCATED ADJUSTMENTS, DIFFERENT PROJECTTO THE PROJECT DESIGN AND PLANS MADE ACCORDINGLY. THIS ADDITIONAL INFORMATION IS NEEDED FOR COMPLIANCE. NUMBERS 3, 4, AND 5.E MO*EFLT G THE CODE FOR THE APPLICANT, CUP IS REQUIRED. BUT WE COULD NOT --CONCLUDE, WITH THE PLANNED SHEETS. THIS ISING THE PLANNED SHEET. THAT'SDIFFERENT PROJECT. A USE OF LAND, BUILDING PERMIT, SO GIVE US A DIFFERENT PROJECT AND WE'LL GIVE YOU A PERMIT. IF THEY CANNOT BE MET, THAT PROVIDES RELIEF THAT WILL BE NEEDED FOR THE LAND TO BE ISSUED. ALL OF THESE, THESE HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF PAGES ARE TELLING US THAT THE PROJECT THAT THEY APPLIED FOR IN THE GENEROUS READING OF THE CODE TELLS US THAT A CUP IS REQUIRED BECAUSE THEY DON'T NEED THE STANDARDS. AND YET, INEXPLICABLABLY, THEY'RE SAYING, WE'LL WORK WITH YOU. IF YOUR PROJECTCAN'T BE APPROVED WITHOUT A CUP AND YOU DON'T APPLY FOR A CUP YOU APPLY FOR A NEW PROJECT. APPLY WITH A NEW PROJECT. CONFORM OR DON'T COME FORM WITH THE CODE, CONFORM WITH THE CODE, IF THIS IS THE PROJECT, YOU WANT, IF THIS IS THE PROJECT YOU WANT, AND I HELD TUP A FEW TIMES, APPLY FOR A CUP. SO MEMBERS, I'M URGING YOU TO ACCEPT THE AMENDMENT OF TODAY WHICH SAYS SIMPLY THAT THIS PROJECT REQUIRES A CUP AND THAT THE, USE OF LAND PERMIT SHALL NOT ISSUE WHICH BY THE WAY, WAS A DETERMINATION BELOW AND ANY OUTSTANDING PERMITS, ALTHOUGH THERE IS NOT CLEAR THAT THERE IS ANY PERMIT, IN FACT THERE IS STATEMENTS SAYING THERE IS NO ACTIVE PERMIT, SHALL BE NULL AND VOID, REAPPLY AND CONFORMED TO THE CODE, I'M GOING TO URGE AN AYE VOTE ON MY AMENDMENT. >> Council President: COUNCILMEMBER BLUMENFIELD? >> B. Blumenfield: THANK YOU. [APPLAUSE] THANK YOU, MR. McOSKER AND AS YOU KNOW, I'M SYMPATHETIC TO THE SITUATION THAT YOU'RE IN AND I SUPPORTED YOUR 245s, YOU KNOW, I DON'T LIKE THIS PROJECT. I DON'T LIKE WHAT IT'S DOING IN THE COMMUNITY. BUT IN PLANNING COMMITTEE, WE VOTED TO DENY THE APPEAL. AND WE DID SO BECAUSE WE EXHAUSTED ALL THE REMEDIES AND WE WENT TO COURT IN TRIAL COURT AND WE LOST. IF WE CONTINUE DOWN OAD. AND ALL OF US WHO HEARD THAT SAID, OKAY, WE CANNOT CONTINUE DOWN THIS ROAD. IT WOULD JUST BE THROWING GOOD MONEY AFTER BAD. AS PAINFUL AS THAT IS, AND I FEEL THE PAIN. I HAD A SIMILAR DIFFERENT KIND OF THING WHEN ED1 CAME OUT, THERE WAS A LITTLE BUG IN THE SYSTEM WHERE DIDN'T GET DEFINED. I FOUGHT AGAINST IT, THIS COUNCIL BACKED ME UP ON THAT. WE WENT TO COURT AND I DON'T KNOW HOW WE LOST THAT, BUT WE LOST IT. AND AT THAT POINT, WE HAD TO GO TO THE COMMUNITY AND SAY, I TRIED BUT WE LOST IN COURT AND I CANNOT DRAG THE CITY THROUGH MORE EXPENSES WHEN, YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO LOSE. THIS IS A SIMILAR SITUATION HERE. BUT I ALSO FEEL LIKE YOU OUGHT TO HAVE THE BENEFIT OF THAT CLOSED SESSION WE HAD ON THE LITIGATION. I WOULD ASK THAT WE SCHEDULE THIS FOR A CLOSE SESSION. THERE IS A RELATED ITEM ON THE LITIGATION THAT WE HEARD IN COMMITTEE. NA IS REALLY SHAPES OUR VIEW ON THIS ISSUE. SO, IN FAIRNESS TO EVERYBODY HERE TO BE ABLE TO HEAR THE REASONS, THE LEGAL REASONS AND HAVE OUR CITY ATTORNEY. WE CAN GET OUR CITY ATTORNEY HERE BUT WE KNOW THEY'RE NOT GOING TO SAY VERY MUCH OUTSIDE OF THE CLOYSED SESSION. BUT, I CANNOT SUPPORT KNOWING WHAT I KNOW, HAVING GONE THROUGH THE CLOSED SESSION AND AS MUCH AS I'M WITH YOU AND WITH YOUR COMMUNITY ON THIS, I CANNOT IN GOOD ANXIOUS SUPPORT GRANTING AT PAEL WHEN I KNOW THAT'S GOING TO COST US A TREMENDOUS AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT WE DON'T HAVE. THAT'S WHY I SUPPORTED THE ICO TO MOVE FORWARD SO WE DON'T GET IN THE SITUATION AGAIN. WE SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN IN SITUATION AND WE SHOULD NOT BE IN THIS SITUATION AND WE ARE. SO I GUESS, I SUGGEST THAT WE CONTINUE THIS VOTE UNTIL WE HEAR WHAT WAS SAID IN CLOSED SESSION. >> Council President: GOT IT, SO MR. BLUMENFIELD IS REQUESTING THAT WE GO TO CLOSE SESSION, WHICH WE WOULD HAVE TO WAIT UNTIL TOMORROW TO DO THAT, MR. McOSKER? >> T. McOsker: THERE IS A LOT OF FRUSTRATIONS HERE. ONE OF THE MANY FRUSTRATIONS IS THAT MY OFFICE WAS EXCLUDED FROM THAT CLOSED SESSION. I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IN SESSION, SO HEADS UP, WHETHER OR NOT THIS INFORMATION THAT PROJECT DOES NOT MEET THE STANDARDS IN THE CODE WAS INTRODUCED IN THAT LITIGATION, IF SO, WHAT WAS THE RESPONSE OF THE COURT? AND IF NOT, WHY NOT. MR. PRESIDENT, THIS ITEM IS ON A 245, IT'S TIME LIMITED, IT EXPIRED TOMORROW. THE TIME LIMIT OF 245 EXPIRES TOMORROW. I'M EAGER TO HEAR THE ARGUMENTS AND RESPOND BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE ASSURANCE THAT THIS WILL BE HEARD IN CLOSED, IF NOT TODAY, IS THERE ANY REASON WHY IT COULDN'T BE HEARD TODAY? >> City Attorney: IT CANNOT BE HEARD TODAY, CORRECT, IT'S NOT ON THE AGENDA AS A CLOSED SESSION. >> Council President: AND WE'LL ASK THE CLERK TO ISSUE A CONTINUATION AGENDA FOR TOMORROW, SO THAT WILL ASSURE THAT IT'S ON THE AGENDA TOMORROW AS A CLOSE SESSION ITEM. >> T. McOsker: IN MY EXPERIENCE GOING BACK A YEAR AND A HALF, THERE IS A LOT OF YOU CANNOT GET THERE FROM THE OFFICE. I WILL CONSENT TO CONTINUING THIS ONE DAY, TO TOMORROW, WITH AN ASSURANCE THAT WE'LL BE IN CLOSED SESSION AND THIS ITEM WILL BE ASKED AND ANSWERED. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT, CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT FOR US? >> Clerk: YES, MR. PRESIDENT. SO FOR THE RECORD, ITEM NUMBER 15 WILL BE CONTINUED AS WELL AS AMENDMENT McOSKER-PARK WILL BE CONTINUED TO WEDNESDAY DECEMBER 3, ALONG WITHTHE CLOSE SESSION COMPANION PIECE THAT IS RELATED TO THIS MATTER, WILL ALSO BE ON THE CONTINUATION AGENDA FOR DECEMBER 3, THAT WILL BE ISSUED TODAY SIR. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT. SO THAT WILL BE THE ORDER. AND WE'LL RESUME THIS DISCUSSION TOMORROW. THANK YOU SO MUCH, EVERYBODY. ALL RIGHT, MADAM CLERK, WHAT IS NEXT? >> Clerk: NEXT WOULD BE ITEM 21 AND THAT WAS CALLED SPECIAL BY COUNCILMEMBER HUTT, THERE IS AN AMENDMENT HUTT-McOSKER THAT HAS BEEN CIRCULATED AND SUBMITTED. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT, ANY COMMENTS COUNCILMEMBER? ALL RIGHT, OPEN THE ITEM ON THAT ITEM, CLOSE THE ROLL, TABULATE THE VOTE. >> Clerk: 15 AYES. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT. WHAT'S NEXT? >> Clerk: NEXT WOULD BE ITEM 22, THERE ARE SEVERAL AMENDMENTS, SO THE FIRST VOTE FOR ITEM 22 IS ITEM 22-C AND THAT IS MOTION RODRIGUEZ-LEE. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT, WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF ITEMS BEFORE US. I WOULD ASK IF THE CAO'S OFFICE COULD COME FORWARD? I'M SORRY, WRONG ITEM. LET'S CONSIDER THE FIRST YELLOW 22. SORRY I GOT AHEAD OF MYSELF. LET'S OPEN THE ROLL, CLOSE THE ROLL, TABULATE THE VOTE. >> Clerk: 15 AYES. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT, WHAT'S NEXT? >> Clerk: NEXT WOULD BE AMENDMENT 22-B AND THAT IS MOTION BLUMENFIELD-RODRIGUEZ. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT, LET'S OPEN THE ROLL ON THIS ITEM, CLOSE THE ROLL, TABULATE THE VOTE. >> Clerk: 14 AYES, 1 NO. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT. WHAT'S NEXT? >> Clerk: NEXT, WOULD BE AMENDMENT 22-A AND THAT IS MOTION JURADO-HERNANDEZ. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT, LET'S OPEN THE ROLL, COUNCILMEMBER JURADO? LET'S MAKE SURE HER SOUND IS CD. >> Y. Jurado: COLLEAGUES I WANT TO START BY-- >> Council President: HOLD ON COUNCILWOMAN. >> Y. Jurado: OKAY, COLLEAGUES I WANT TO START BY SAYING CLEARLY, I OUR CITY'S COMMITMENT TO BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING FASTER. SXIBL IN OUR RESPONSIBILITY TO DELIVER HOUSING FOR THOSE WHO NEED IT MOST. BUT I HAVE TO RAISE A SERIOUS CONCERN ABOUT WHAT IS BEFORE US TODAY. IT PUTS HOUSING AT REAL RISK OF DISPLACEMENT, ESPECIALLY NEIGHBORHOOD IN MY DISTRICT LIKE BOYLE HEIGHTS AND LINCOLN HEIGHTS. THIS PROTECTS OUR BUILDINGS WITH 12 UNITS OR MORE, BUT THAT DOES NOT REFLECT THE REALITY IN MY DISTRICT. IN BOYLE HEIGHTS OUT OF THE 4400 PROPERTIES, ONLY 10 WOULD BE EXCLUDED FROM THE PROCESS. IF WE KEEP THE EXEMPTION AT 12 UNITS, THEY BECOME VULNERABLE DEMOLITION UNDER A BUY-RIGHT PROCESS, NO VOICE FROM THE COMMUNITY. WHAT YOU'RE DOING IS STREAMLINING DISPLACEMENT, OF LATINO WORKING CLASS NEIGHBORHOODS THAT HAVE OUR UNDOCUMENTED IMMIGRANTS THAT HAVE A CLOSER COMMUTE TO OUR OFFICE. SO THIS IS NOT A HYPOTHETICAL CONCERN, THIS IS DEVELOPMENT WITH DISPLACEMENT, YES WE WANT TO BUILD MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING BUT FOR WHOM? AND WHAT COST? I GUESS THE COST OF THE 4490RSO PROPERTIES IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD. WE'RE TALKING ABOUT BUILDINGS THAT SERVE THE FOUNDATION OF MULTI GENERATIONAL HOUSING, WHERE NEIGHBORS SUPPORT EACH OTHER. THAT'S WHY I INTRODUCED THE AMENDMENT TO LOWER THE EXEMPTION FROM 12 UNITS TO 5 UNITS. THIS IS A SMALL BUT NECESSARY ADJUSTMENT TO ENSURE THAT THE PROCESS DOES NOT UNINTENTIONALLY BECOME A PATHWAY TO DEMOLISH THE HOMES THAT OUR CONSTITUENTS RELY ON. DO WE TALK ABOUT THE RESIDENTS THAT LIVE IN A HOUSING OR ARE WE INTEND TO GO BUILD OVER THEM UNTIL THEY'RE NO LONGER HERE. I ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT OR ASK FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TO CUSS THIS FURTHER IN COMMITTEE. THE AND LOOK AT THE DATA. WHAT I'M ASKING FOR IS ACTUALLY 36 PERCENT OF THE RSO UNITS TO BE EXEMPTED AND GUESS WHERE MOST OF THEM ARE? CD14. THANK YOU. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMEMBER HERNANDEZ? >> Y. Jurado: OH YEAH, WE HAVE TO SPEAK INTO THE RECORD, AN AMENDMENT INTO THE AMENDMENT. NUMBER 5, REQUEST THE CITY ATTORNEY TO INCORPORATE REQUEST TO THE NUMBER OF UNITS, COMMA INTO CHAPTER 1, PERIOD. >> Council President: COUNCILMEMBER HERNANDEZ? >> E. Hernandez: 22-B. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT, MR. BLUMENFIELD. >> B. Blumenfield: I WOULD LIKE TO GET PLAN TO GO ANSWER SOME QUESTIONS ON THIS? >> Council President: YES, WE'LL ASK. >> B. Blumenfield: IT'S MY UNDERSTANDING THAT THE MAYOR HAS A LOST CONCERNS ABOUT THIS. AND THE CONCERN IS THIS CUTS THE LEGS OUT FROM UNDER THE EFFECTIVENESS OF ED1. IT DOES NOT CHANGE THE ZONING IN TERMS OF WHAT BUILDINGS CAN AND CANNOT BE DEMOLISHED BUT IT'S SAYING, IF THERE IS A 5-BUNGALOW UNIT OR SOMETHING THAT TO THAT AFFECT AND SOMEBODY WANTS TO BUILD A 100 UNIT AND THEY'RE DECIDING TO DO THAT, THEY CANNOT USE ED1. SO IF I CAN GET PLANNING THIS O IT CHOSEN IN IN THE MAYOR'S ED1 TO BE 12 UNITS? WHAT IS THE IMPACT IN YOUR PERSPECTIVE ON ETHICACY OF ED1 IF WE GO DOWN TO FIVE MINUTES? >> Speaker: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBERS, KEVIN KELLER, EXECUTIVE OFFICER PLANNING. IT'S A POLICY ISSUE IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL TODAY. THE ORIGINAL ED1 DID NOT INCLUDE ANY LANGUAGE OF RSO DEMOLITION. RSO DEMOLITION IS COVERED BY ELLIS ACT AND OTHER ORDINANCES HAVE RECENTLY BEEN ADOPTED AND NOT ALL PROGRAMS IN THE CITY HAVE SPECIFIC CALL OUT FOR RSO UNITS. IN 2024, THE MAYOR AMENDED, ED1 TO INCLUDE A 12-UNIT THRESHOLD. IT WAS THE FIRST THRESHOLD AND IT WAS RESPONSIVE TO SOME OF THE ISSUES THAT SHOULD BE SEEN WHERE LARGER PROJECTS SHOULD BE COME IN WITH SIGNIFICANT AMOUNTS OF RSO HOUSING THAT WERE REDEVELOPED FOR SLIGHTLY MORE HOUSING. THAT THRESHOLD WAS SET AT 12 IN THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTIVE THAT WAS WHAT WAS ROLLED OVER INTO THE ORDINANCE THAT IS IN FRONT OF YOU TODAY. THE ORDINANCE IN FRONT OF THE COUNCIL, GENERALLY MIRRORS AND MATCHES THE ED1 PROGRAM THAT THE CITY HAS BEEN USING. I CAN HAND IT OVER TO MATT TO GIVE SOME HIGH LEVEL DATA ON THE PROGRAM BUT LIKE THE COUNCILMEMBERS HAVE SAID, THERE ARE INSTANCES WHERE PROJECTS ARE MOVING FORWARD WITH UNITS UNDER 12 BUT MORE THAN 5, SO THAT'S A POLICY CALL. BUT IT WOULD FURTHER LIMIT THE ABILITY IN THIS CASE OF AFFORDABLE HOUSING TO BE BUILT ON THOSE PROPERTIES. MATT? >> Speaker: I CAN JUST PROVIDE THIS MATH, CITY PLANNING, JUST SOME DATA THAT WE HAVE. WE TOOK A LOOK QUICKLY AT ED7 PROJECTS AND THEIR IMPACTS I KNOW COUNCILMEMBER NAZARIAN HAD ASKED FOR THAT EARLIER. SO IF THAT'S HELPFUL, WE CAN GET THAT UP HERE. WE APPROVED ABOUT 450 PROJECTS OF THOSE 168 ABOUT REQUIRE THE DEMOLITION OF HOUSING PROJECTS. 7.4 UNITS, THAT'S DEMOLITION OF ABOUT 700 UNITS AT'S A SIGNIFICANT NUMBER. THAT'S RATIO ABOUT 40 UNITS BEING CREATED FOR EVERY RSO LOST. THAT DOES NOT INCLUDE--ESPECIALLY AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS A DIFFICULT THAT I'LL RIVER TO THE COUNCIL ON WHAT YOU WANT TO DO THS. THIS CHANGE FROM 5 TO 12, WOULD I AM PABLGT ABOUT PERCENT OF PROJECTS BASED ON PAST DATA. WE DON'T KNOW IF THEY WOULD CONVERT TO MARKET RATE OR IF THEY WOULD NOT HAPPEN. BUT, YEAH, THIS IS A DIFFICULT ISSUE AND WHERE TO FIND THA. I WILL UNDERLINE THIS WAS PUT IN PLACE THE 12-UNIT LIMIT, WHICH IS UNIQUE TO HAVE A THRESHOLD LIKE THAT. WAS PUT IN BEFORE THE ADOPTION OF THE PROTECTION ORDINANCE. AND IN SOME WAYS MAY HAVE BEEN A STOP-GAP TO THOSE ENHANCED PROTECTION. SO THERE IS PROTECTIONS FOR EVERY LOW INCOME TENANT THAT IS DISLOCATED AND DISPLACED, UP TO $100,000 FOR EVERY DISLOCATED TENANTS AND A RIGHT TO RETURN TO THAT BUILDING, THEY HAVE THE RIGHT TO RETURN IF THE PROJECT DOES NOT PROCEED. SO I WANTED TO COUNCIL TO BE AWARE OF THOSE PROTECTIONS THAT WERE MEANT TO ADDRESS THIS. WE'LL BE HAPPY TO ANSWER ANYMORE QUESTIONS. >> Council President: COUNCILMEMBER RAMAN? XRA*M >> >> N. Raman: I HAVE A QUESTION ON THE UNITS THAT HAVE BEEN ENTITLED LIKE IN THE LAST QUARTER, PREVIOUS QUARTER? AND COMPARED TO LAST YEAR AT THIS TIME? OR THE PREVIOUS YEAR AT THIS TIME? >> WELL, WE'RE TRYING TO GET THAT DA TAUPE FOR YOU. THERE IS BEEN A DECLINE FROM WHERE IT WAS A YEAR AGO, TWO YEARS AGO. >> N. Raman: YEAH, I'M JUST TRYING TO UNDERSTAND HOW STEEP THE DECLINE HAS BEEN. AND COLLEAGUES, I THINK ED1 HAS CHANGED SIGNIFICANTLY FROM ITS ORIGINAL FORM, AND SOME WAYS, I THINK BENEFICIALLY, SOME WAYS IN WAYS THAT HAVE UNDERMINED THE EFFECTIVENESS OF INTENT OF THE ORDINANCE, AND WE HAVE A NEW CHIP PROGRAM THAT I THINK DOES A BETTER JOB OF BUILDING THE HOUSING WHERE WE NEED T IT'S FAIRLY THOUGHT OUT AND, YOU KNOW, HAS A BETTER OVERALL KIND OF SHAPE TO THE SYSTEM ACROSS THE ENTIRE CITY THAN WHAT ED1 HAS BECOME AFTER ALL OF THESE CHANGES. AND I WANT TO UNDERSTAND THE EFFECTIVENESS AS WELL? >> I DO RECALL LOOKING AT THE CHANGES, YEAH, IT WAS SORT OF A PEAK. I BELIEVE IT'S MUCH AS 1/6 OF NUMBER OF UNIT THAT WE'RE SEEING COMING IN TODAY VERSUS THERE IS BEEN A LOST ADJUSTMENTS, THERE IS A LOT OF ISSUES ON SECTION VOUCHERS AND THE ABILITY, THERE IS A LOT OF PEOPLE BET ON EARLY ON. >> N. Raman: YEAH, SO IF IT'S 1/6 OF WHAT IT WAS VERSUS A YEAR AGO TWO YEARS AGO, WHAT ARE ALREADY THE NUMBER OF ENTITLEMENTS THAT HAVE RESULTED IN UNITS BEING BUILT OR HOUSING STARTS? >> YEAH, SO I THINK THE LAST TIME I LOOKED AT THIS MAYBE A MONTH OR TWO AGO, ROUGHLY OF THE 40 OF THE 400 PROJECTS HAVE GONE ALL THE WAY AND STARTED CONSTRUCTION WITH THE BUILDING PERMIT. >> N. Raman: SO ABOUT 10 PERCENT? >> ABOUT 10 PERCENT, THERE IS A LAG OF PEOPLE PERMITTING. BUT IT'S ALSO A VERY DIFFICULT BUILDING PERIOD. >> N. Raman: AND THE ENTITLEMENTS EXPIRE AFTER TWO YEARS? >> I'M SORRY? >> N. Raman: AND ENTITLEMENT EXPIRE? >> I BELIEVE IT'S TWO OR THREE YEARS, I'M NOT SURE. >> I BELIEVE IT'S THREE YEARS, COUNCILMEMBER. >> N. Raman: OKAY, DO YOU HAVE THE NUMBER OF PERMITS FROM LAST QUARTER OR EVEN LAST MONTH VERSUS THE SAME MONTH LAST YEAR? >> Speaker: THIS IS KEVIN KELLER, WE DID PULL THAT DATA, BUT YOU'RE CORRECT, THE APPLICATIONS HAVE CONTINUED. BUT THEY HAVE DECLINED SINCE THE SUMMER OF 2024. >> N. Raman: OKAY, I WOULD JUST SAY, COLLEAGUES, YOU KNOW, I THINK, I'M HAPPY TO, I SUPPORTED THIS IN COMMITTEE, I'M NOT SURE HOW USEFUL THIS PROGRAM IS, IN TERMS OF PUSHING FOR ACTUAL NEW UNITS. THE CHANGES THAT WE'RE MAKING TODAY ARE GOING TO FURTHER CUT INTO THE ABILITY OF PEOPLE BEING ABLE TO USE IT. BUT IT MAY NOT BE MAKE THAT MUCH OF AN IMPACT GIVEN THE ACT TO DRAW PEOPLE IN. I SUPPORTED IT IN COMMITTEE, I WILL CONTINUE TO SUPPORT IT TODAY BUT I THINK IT HAS ALREADY LOST SOME OF ITS ORIGINAL POTENCY AND WE SHOULD LOOK AT THE ANALYSIS TO SEE HOW WE CAN GENERATE NEW HOUSING. THANK YOU. >> Council President: COUNCILMEMBER JURADO. >> Y. Jurado: THANK YOU, PLANING DEPARTMENT. I JUST WANTED TO CLARIFY SO IF WE MADE THE MATERIAL CHANGE T WOULD ONLY AFFECT THE 8 PERCENT OF THE APPLICANTS THAT WE CURRENT LIE HAVE? SO THIS SEEMS NOMINAL FOR ME AND I HOPE FOR OTHER COLLEAGUES, THAT WILL BE AS WELL. OTHER THING I WANT TO POINT OUT, IS OUR, FROM MY EPERIENCE, WHICH IS NOT A LOT, BUT, I THINK AREN'T RENT CONTROL THAT HAVE OLDER BUILDINGS MAY BE CHEAPER IN A MARKET THAT IS DEPRESSED TO BE PREYED ON. AND THOSE HAVE THE ONE THAT PEOPLE WANT TO BUY AND REMODEL. AND WITHOUT A RESCIND CATER, THOSE ARE IN THE COST, THE COST ARE HUMAN LIVES OF OUR WHO CAME IN OR DAY OUT, WHO CAME FOR 3 PERCENT RENT CAP. AND OUR PRIMARY DUTY WITH OUR LAND USE, THEN WHAT ARE WE DOING HERE? AND IT'S ONLY PERCENT. I'M ASKING YOU TO RECONSIDER, I WISH MY VOICE DIDN'T BREAK AT THAT MOMENT, BUT I HOPE YOU RECONSIDER. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT, SEEING NO OTHER COMMENTS ON THIS ITEM, MADAM CLERK F YOU CAN RESTATE WHAT IS BEFORE US. >> Clerk: WHAT IS BEFORE COUNCIL IS 22-A AND THAT IS MOTION JURADO-HERNANDEZ AS AMENDED BY MOTION JURADO-HERNANDEZ. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT, BEFORE WE CALL THE QUESTION, WE HAVE MR. NAZARIAN AND MR. BLUMENFIELD. >> A. Nazarian: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, WHEN I SAW THE MOTION I WAS READY TO SUPPORT IT BECAUSE IT LIMIT TODAY CD14 ITSELF. BUT IN YOUR AMENDMENT, YOU EXPANDED TO THE ENTIRE CITY WHICH I ALSO APPRECIATE BECAUSE I'VE HAD CONCERNS OVER THIS IN MY OWN DISTRICT. I HAVE A PROJECT THAT IS GOING TO DEMOLISH FIVE UNITS AND BUILD 103 WITH NO PARKING IN ALREADY CAPACITY COLLECTOR'S STREET ALL BECAUSE IT'S IN THE BLOCK OF ORANGE LINE, IT WILL T TENANTS WILL BE UTILIZING THAT MODE OF TRANSPORTATION SWI W*I IS A VERY BIG ASSUMPTION. SO I UNDERSTAND, AND BY THE WAY, THE FIVE UNITS ARE ALSO RSO. BUT THE BALANCE IS SOMEWHERE IN BETWEEN, WHEN WE TAKE ACTION LIKE THIS TO IMPACT THE ENTIRETY OF THE CITY WE ARE ALSO DIMINISHING THE INTENT OF SOMETHING THAT WAS MEANT TO PROVIDE MORE AFFORDABLE HOUSING. SO, INSTEAD OF VOTING ON THIS NOW, WOULD THIS BODY BE AMENABLE FOR THIS BODY TO GO BACK TO COMMITTEE SO WE CAN FIND A BERT BALANCE ON HOW WE ADDRESS THE ISSUE THAT HAS COME UP BY COLLEAGUE BY CD14. I DO APPRECIATE THAT AND I THINK IT'S EXTREMELY VALID BUT LOWERING IT TO FIVE UNITS FOR THE ENTIRETY OF THE CITY I THINK COULD HAVE CONSEQUENCES THAT WE DON'T WANT. >> Council President: OKAY, THAT'S A MOTION TO CONTINUE THE COMPLETE ITEM? I GUESS WE HAVE TO DO THE COMPLETE ITEM IF WE DON'T DO THE AMENDMENT. BUT I'VE GOT MR. BLUMENFIELD ON THE QUEUE. >> B. Blumenfield: THAT'S WHAT I WAS GOING TO SPEAK TO. CAN WE JUST, IT'S IMPORTANT IF WE'RE SERIOUS ABOUT HOUSING, ED1, IT'S BEEN AFFECTIVE. WE SHOULD MOVE FORWARD AND MAYBE PUSH IN AMENDMENT THE COMMITTEE JUST LIKE SOME OF THE OTHER AMENDMENTS ARE REALLY GOING TO THE COMMITTEE AND INSTRUCTING PLANNING, LIKE B, IT'S NOT INSTRUCTING THEM TO DO AN ORDINANCE. ALONG THAT VAIN IF WE CAN SEND A TO THE COMMITTEE TO SEE WHAT ARE THE TRADEOFFS, BUT NOT SLOW DOWN THE ACTUAL ED1, I THINK THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE AND I WOULD PUT THAT FORWARD AS A OPTION OF TO SEND ITEM A TO COMMITTEE BUT TO MOVE FORWARD WITH THE UNDERLYING ED1. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT THE MOTION IS TO REFER THE AMENDMENT TO COMMITTEE? COUNCILMEMBER HERNANDEZ. >> E. Hernandez: THANK YOU. COUNCILMEMBER BLUMENFIELD JUST SAID THAT A LOST GREAT STUFF HAS HAPPENED UNDER ED1 HOW MANY UNITS HAVE BEEN BUILT UNDER ED1? >> COUNCILMEMBER I DON'T THINK WE HAVE A NUMBER OF CONSTRUCTED UNITS, WE'RE LOOKING AT AND IT JULY, THERE ARE 44 PROJECTS, THAT'S ABOUT 2500 UNITS. AS FAR AS COMPLETED, I DON'T KNOW IF I CAN SPEAK TO THAT. >> Council President: BEFORE SINCE THE BEGINNING? >> I'VE GOT 2500. >> Council President: SORRY, 2500. 44 PROJECTS. ALL RIGHT, ANYTHING ELSE COUNCILMEMBER? >> E. Hernandez: I'M GLAD Y'ALL YOU BROUGHT THAT UP AND THAT'S GREAT, AND I'VE ONLY SEEN THE NEGATIVE IMPACTS. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER TOLAN WAY AND NOW WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT HOW WE BUY THAT BUILDING. I HAD 17 FAMILIES TO BE DISPLACED UNDER ED1, FOR US WE'VE BEEN ON THE RECEIVING END SO THAT'S WHY I WANT TODAY HEAR IF THERE WAS MOVEMENT IN CONSTRUCTION AND IF THERE HAS BEEN EXPEDITING OF THAT. IT'S WORRISOME ON SOME OF US THAT HAVE BEEN ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF IT. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT. SO I THINK MADAM CLERK, WHAT IS BEFORE US IS TO CONTINUE THE AMENDMENT? >> Clerk: MR. PRESIDENT, SO FOR 22-A, DOES COUNCIL WISH TO REFER THIS TO THE PLANNING LAND USE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE? >> Council President: IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION, THAT WILL BE THE ORDER. COUNCILMEMBER JURADO? >> Y. Jurado: CAN WE REFER TO HNH AS WELL. >> Council President: REFER TO HNH AS WELL. >> Clerk: YES, FOR THE RECORD 22-A WILL BE REFERRED TO THE PLANNING AND LAND USE, AS WELL AS HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS COMMITTEE. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT, WHAT'S NEXT? >> Clerk: SO WHAT THE FINAL VOTE IS NOW,-- >> E. Hernandez: ? >> Council President: W GOT IT. COUNCILMEMBER HERNANDEZ TO COMMENT ON THE ENTIRE PACKAGE? >> E. Hernandez: IN 22-B, THIS ONE CAME VERY QUICKLY I HAVE WILLIAM NEED WHO IS NR LIKE TO VOTE AND SEND IT BACK TO COMMITTEE PLEASE. >> Y. Jurado: SECOND. >> Council President: YOU'VE GOT LIKE THREE SECONDS. SO WE NEED TO A VOTE TO RECONSIDER THAT. >> Clerk: YES. SO 22-B, JUST REAL QUICK, THE VOTE TO RECONSIDER IS NOW BEFORE COUNCIL. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT, LET'S OPEN THE ROLE ON RECONSIDERATION, CLOSE THE ROLL, TABULATE THE VOTE. >> Clerk: 15 AYES. >> Council President: MR. BLUMENFIELD. >> B. Blumenfield: I'M HAPPY TO RECONSIDER AND EVEN SEND IT BACK. BUT JUST THIS IS TO BE CLEAR, 22-B, THEY ASKED TO US DO THIS AT THE LAST MINUTE, YOU'RE RIGHT BUT IT'S JUST AN INSTRUCTION, WE'RE NOT ACTUALLY DOING IT. SO EITHER WAY, WHETHER WE SEND IT BACK TO COMMITTEE TO LOOK AT THE INSTRUCTION AGAIN OR THEY DO IT, I'M FINE EITHER WAY BUT JUST TO BE CLEAR, WE'RE NOT VOTING ON THE UNDERLYING ORDINANCE TOO DO THIS, I WOULD HAVE BEEN COMFORTABLE WITH THAT AS WELL, GIVEN THAT THEY BROUGHT THIS TO US TODAY. BUT I AM COMFORTABLE WITH INSTRUCTING THEM TO DO IT. I DO THINK THAT HACLA HAS A POINT. >> E. Hernandez: THANK YOU, AND I HOPE HACLA HEARS ME, PLEASE COME TO ME SO WE CAN HAVE THE CONVERSATION, BECAUSE FOR NOW, WE HAVE NOT HAD THE CONVERSATION. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO REFER THAT ITEM IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION, WE'LL REFER THAT ITEM TO PLANNING AND LAND USE MANAGEMENT COMMITTEE AND HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS. >> Clerk: CAN COUNCIL DO A QUICK VOTE ON THE REFERRAL FOR 22-B. >> Council President: WE NEED A VOTE ON REFERRAL? I JUST REFERRED THE OTHER ONE WITHOUT A VOTE. ALL RIGHT. LET'S OPEN THE ROLL ON THOSE REFERRALS. CLOSE THE ROLL, TABULATE THE VOTE. >> Clerk: 15 AYES. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT, SO THERE WE GO. >> Clerk: OKAY, AND NOW THE FINAL VOTE IS ITEM 22 THAT'S THE PLUM REPORT AS AMENDED BY MOTION 22-C AND THAT IS MOTION RODRIGUEZ. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT, LET'S OPEN THE ROLL ON THAT ITEM, CLOSE THE ROLL, TABULATE VOTE. >> Clerk: 15 AYES. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT, THERE WE GO. ALL RIGHT, THANK YOU. DEPARTMENT OF CITY La primera. Motion La motion de Park is a motion to adopt aMcOS AND THAT'S THE MOTION TO ADOPT THE L.A. AD HOC RECOVERY REPORT AS WELL AS THE ORDINANCE ON FILE. >> Council President: IT SO LOOKS LIKE WE HAVE TWO REPORTS AND AN ADDITIONAL AMENDMENT FOR THIS. I'M GOING TO ASK THE CAO'S OFFICE TO COME FORWARDAND TO EXPLAIN THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE VARIANCE BETWEEN THE REPORTS THAT ARE BEFORE US. >> Speaker: HELLO GOOD AFTERNOON, I DON'T LAND WITH THE CAO AND JOINED BY GALVAN ALSO FROM THE CAO'S OFFICE. THE REPORTS, FIRST I WANT TO CLARIFY THAT BOTH WAIVE PERMITTING AND BUILDING FEES FOR ALL TYPES OF STRUCTURES, SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, CONDOMINIUMS, TRAILER PARKS ALL TYPES OF STRUCTURES. THE DIFFERENCE IS THAT THE BUDGET AND FINANCE REPORT RECOMMENDS THAT WE ONLY WAIVE THE FEES FOR THOSE STRUCTURE THAT'S ARE GOING TO REBUILD UP TO 110 PERCENT OF THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURE. BOTH REPORTS WILL HAVE FISCAL IMPACT IN THE CITY AS WE HAVE TO PAY FOR THESE FEE WAIVERS FROM GENERAL FUND DOLLARS. THE DIFFERENCE IS, THE BUDGET AND FINANCE RECOMMENDATIONS, WE ESTIMATE THAT THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS WILL COST THE CITY UP TO 60 MILLION DOLLARS PLUS THE COST OF BORROWING. AND THE AD HOC RECOVERY VOTE CAN COST THE CITY UP TO 278 MILLION PLUS THE COST OF BORROWING. >> Council President: COME ON, PEOPLE DIDN'T YELL OUT WHEN YOU WERE TALKING. LELT THE COUNCIL HAVE THIS DISCUSSION. ALL RIGHT, MADAM C A O? >> SO BASED ON THE FISCAL IMPACT AND THE FACT THAT THE FINANCE AND BUDGET REPORT DOES WAIVE THE FEES FOR UP TO 110 PERCENT OF THE SIZE OF THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURE, WE RECOMMEND THAT THE COUNCIL APPROVE THE BUDGET AND FINANCE. >> Council President: I WILL ONE QUESTION AND THEN WE'LL GO TO COUNCILMEMBER PARK. YOU SAID YOU OPENED WITH BOTH REPORTS COVERING UP TO 110 PERCENT. >> NOT BOTH. THE BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMITTEE REPORT WOULD WAIVE THE FEES FOR ALL STRUCTURES THAT BUILD UP TO 110 PERCENT OF ORIGINAL STRUCTURE. THE AD HOC RECOVERY BOARD WOULD WAIVE THE FEES FOR ANY, IF SOMEBODY WANTS TO DOUBLE THE SIZE OF THEIR STRUCTURE, THOSE FEES WOULD BE RECOVERED. SO THERE IS NO LIMIT ON THE SIZE OF THE STRUCTURE BEYOND THE ORIGINAL SIZE, IF THAT MAKES SENSE. >> Council President: GOT IT. COUNCILMEMBER PARK. >> T. Park: THANK YOU, MS. CHAVEZ I'M READING FROM THE BUDGET AND FINANCE REPORT, INSTRUCTION NUMBER 2, IS TO WAIVE THE BUILDING PERMIT FEES OF SINGLE-FAMILY STRUCTURES AND DUPLEXES, AT THE 110 PERCENT LEVEL. THAT IS NOT ALL STRUCTURES. >> Council President: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER PARK. THAT WAS THE PROBLEM I WAS HAVING IN ONE OF THEM IT SPELLS OUT AND LAND STRUCTURES AND IN ANOTHER ONE IT DOESN'T. IT DOESN'T MATCH UP. >> T. Park: WHAT MS. CHAVEZ SAID IS UNCORRECT IN HER DESCRIPTION IN THE TWO REPORTS. >> SO THE DRAFT ORDINANCE AS PRESENTED BEFORE YOU TODAY, DOES NOT INCLUDE A LIMITING OR TO ONLY FAMILY IT WOULD APPLY TO ALL PROPERTIES. >> Council President: SO YOU'RE, IT'S YOUR UNDERSTANDING AND I'M NOT SURE IF COUNCILMEMBER PARK WAS DONE, BUT YOU'RE SAYING TO US, THAT YOU ACCOUNT FOR THE INCREASED%BACKERED TIME THREE JUST ON PROPERTIES THAT MIGHT BUILD OVER 110 PERCENT? >> THAT ESTIMATE IS FROM BUILDING AND SAFETY. AND I WANT TO CLARIFY ONE THING, THE DIFFERENCES IS THAT THE ORDINANCE BEFORE YOU, BASICALLY COVERS ALL STRUCTURES, THE ONLY CHANGE THE BUILDING AND BUDGET AND FINANCE REPORT IS ASKING THAT, THE CHANGE TO BE MADE TO THE ORDINANCE, THE CITY ATTORNEY HAS PRESENTED IS THAT THE FEE WAIVER SUPPLY TO ONLY STRUCTURES THAT BUILD UP TO 110 PERCENT. BUT THE KURNL LANGUAGE OF THE ORDINANCE APPLIES TO ALL STRUCTURES. >> Council President: COUNCILMEMBER PARK? >> T. Park: I DON'T KNOW HOW TO EXPLAIN THE DISCREPANCY, WHY IT DOES NOT MATCH THE DESCRIPTION IN THE ORDINANCE. WE CAN HAVE TH CITY ATTORNEY COME UP AS WELL. THAT'S OUR UNDERSTANDING THAT THEY REQUEST THE CITY ATTORNEY REVISE THE ORDINANCE TO APPLY UP TO 110 PERCENT OF THE SIZE. >> T. Park: THE WORDINGS IS VERY CLEAR, IT IS SINGLE-FAMILY STRUCTURES AND DUPLEXES DAMAGED OR DESTROYED UP TO 110 PERCENT. >> COUNCILMEMBERS, WITH REGARD TO BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMITTEE, THEY DID HAVE A LIMITATION THAT IT WAS TO FAMILY HOMES AND DUPLEXES BEING REPLACED. AGAIN, THIS WAS A REQUEST TO THE CITY ATTORNEY TO DRAFT AN ORDINANCE, THIS BODY OF COURSE COULD CONSIDER AMENDING THAT FURTHER, IF THAT IS THE DESIRE OF THE BODY TO BE MORE EXPANSIVE. BUT THE RECOMMENDATION BEFORE YOU IN BUDGET AND COMMITTEE REPORT, DOES FOCUS ONLY A SINGLE-FAMILY AND DUPLEXES. AGAIN IT'S A RECOMMENDATION FOR A REQUEST TO CITY ATTORNEY TO DRAFT AN ORDINANCE BECAUSE THAT ORDINANCE IS NOT BEFORE YOU YET. >> SO MY STRUGGLE IN THIS AND I'M NOT INTERESTED IN THE CITY HAVING MONEY. BUT MY NEED EXCLUDES ALL PROPERTY THAT ARE NOT DUPLICATED AND SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES. SO IF THEY ARE SHOWER SHOP AND I WANT TO REBUILD MY SHOWER SHOP, I'M OUT IN THE BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMITTEE REPORT. OR CONDOMINIUM. >> THAT'S CORRECT. >> FOR CLARIFICATION, THIS LANGUAGE IS DIRECTLY FROM THE ORDINANCE. IT SHOULD APPLY TO THE WORK HAPPENED ANDTHE CURRENT ORDINAN BEFORE YOU, THAT WAS DRAFTED BY CITY ATTORNEY BEFORE THE BUDGET AND FINANCE CONSIDERATION, WAS VERY EXPANSIVE. IT INCLUDED PROPERTIES THAT IT WOULD BASICALLY INCLUDE ALL PROPERTIES. [APPLAUSE] IT WOULD INCLUDE SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES T WOULD INCLUDE DUPLEXES, IT WOULD INCLUDE, FLOWER SHOPS ALL PROPERTIES BUT NO GUIDELINES IN THE SIZE OF THE REBUILDING. AND I THINK THAT'S THE DIFFERENCE. THE SIZE OF THE REBUILD AS MS. CHAVEZ INDICATED, IF THE REBUILD WAS DOUBLE, THAT COULD CONCEIVABLY INCREASE THE FISCAL IMPACT. SO IN THE BUDGET AND FINANCE REPORT, IT WAS A REQUEST TO PREPARE A NEW ORDINANCE THAT WOULD FOCUS ON SINGLE-FAMILY AND DUPLEXES AND FOCUS ON REBUILD AND ALSO BE CONSISTENT WITH THE MAYOR'S EMERGENCY EXECUTIVE ORDER THAT LIMITED TOE 110 PERCENT. BUT YOU'RE RIGHT, MR. PRESIDENT, THAT IT WAS FOCUSED ON SINGLE-FAMILY AND DUPLEXES. >> Council President: SO, SO IF, A MEMBER OF THIS BODY WERE TO HAVE THE NUANCE POSITION THAT EVERYBODY WHO LOST A STRUCTURE WHETHER IT'S RESIDENTIAL OR COMMERCIAL SHOULD BE ABLE TO BE LOLLED WITHOUT KEYS BUT DO NOT SUPPORT, THIS PERSON DOES NOT SUPPORT AN OPEN-ENDED. YOU HAD AN FLOWER SUPPORT AND NOW WANT IT THREE TIMES BIGGER. IF THE PERSON DOES NOT SUPPORT THAT BUT SUPPORTS THE FLOWER SHOP. DID EITHER OF THESE TAKE CARE OF THAT? >> YOU WOULD HAVE TO AMEND THE BUDGET AND FINANCE REPORT TO ONLY AMEND, THE ORDINANCE PRESENTED BY THE CITY ATTORNEY TO INCLUDE THAT FEES WOULD ONLY APPLY TO STRUCTURES. >> Council PresidenCOST ESTIMAT? >> OUR COST ESTIMATE IS ON ALL BASED STRUCTURES. >> Council President: SO THERE ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS AND YOU ONLY PRESENTED TWO NUMBERS. THERE IS REBUILDING, RESIDENT RNL, UP TO 110 PERCENT, THEN THERE IS REBUILDING ANY STRUCTURE LOST UP TO 110 PERCENT. AND THEN BASICALLY ANY BUILDING PERMIT ANYBODY WANTS OF ANY SIZE. WHICH ONE OF THESE NUMBERS APPLY TO THE THREE THINGS? >> SO THE ESTIMATES WE RAN, IF YOU LOOK AT OUR REPORT FROM DATED OCTOBER 2, THE ATTACHMENT THE VARIOUS TYPES OF STRUCTURES INCLUDNG MULTI FAMILY COMMERCIAL, ADUs, AND GRADING AND THE ESTIMATE FOR ALL OF THOSE WITHOUT REBUILDING LIMITATION IS CAN BE UP TO 278 MILLION. THE ESTIMATE FOR ALL OF THOSE IF YOU DO UP TO 210 PERCENT OF THE ORIGINAL STRUCTURE IS UP TO 16 MILLION.I WOULD ADD THAT BOT ESTIMATES DO PRESUME THAT ALL PROPERTIES AFFECTED BY THE WILDFIRES WOULD BE ELIGIBLE. >> Council President: IT WOULD BE GREAT IF THEY BOTH SAID THAT. BL BLUMENFIELD. >> B. Blumenfield: I AGREE THAT THEY SHOULD SAY THAT AND MAYBE WE NEED TO BE CLEAR ABOUT MAKE ITING SAY THAT. I'M SYMPATHETIC TO THE STORIES THAT WE HEARD FROM THE FOLKS LOSING THEIR HOMES AND WE NEED TO DO WHAT WE CAN AS A CITY. THE FEE WAIVER CONCEPT IS A TRICKY BECAUSE, IT JUST MEANS THE GENERAL FUND IS PAYING FOR THE FEES. IT'S NOT LIKE THE CITY IS COLLECT THISING MONEY FOR ANYTHING ELSE. IF WE WAIVE IT UNDER PROP 218, WE CANNOT SPREAD THAT FEE ON TO OTHER FOLKS, SO IT ENDS UP BEING A DIRECT COST AT A TIME THAT WE ARE REALLY STRUGGLING FINANCIALLY. THAT BEING SAID, WE SAID LOOK AS HARD IT IS FOR THE CITY TO OBSERVE THIS AND IT'S 86 MILLION DOLLARS IN TERMS OF WHAT NA MEANS FOR THE FIREFIGHTERS AND POLICE AND STREETS AND EVERYTHING ELSE IN THE CITY, WE WANT TO GO AHEAD AND SPEND THAT MONEY, THAT 86 MILLION DOLLARS ON FOLKS WHO HAVE LOST THEIR HOMES AND ALLOW THEM TO REBUILD. BUT TO REBUILD WHAT THEY LOST WHICH IS UNDER THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTIVE, UP TO 110 PERCENT. AND I THINK THAT'S IS FAIR. THAT'S GOING TO BE DIFFICULT AS A CITY TO OBSERVE THAT--ABSORB THAT, WE DON'T GET E IT, WE CAN. BUT WE SHOULD PAY NA. --THAT. I'M SORRY, I CANNOT TALK WHILE PEOPLE ARE TALKING. IT'S A REALITY FOLKS, THAT'S HOW OUR BUDGET WORKS. I THINK OUR FEES ARE WAY TOO HIGH AND WE NEED TO FIGURE OUTWEIGH TO SEE AVOID HAVING A LOT OF FEES THAT WE HAVE AND HAVE SELF CERTIFICATION, I'VE BEEN AT THE FOR FRONT OF DOING THOSE THINGS SO FEES ARE NOT SO RIDICULOUSLY HIGH. BUT WHERE THEY ARE NOW, SOMEBODY PAYS IT. IT'S GOING TO BE THE TAXPAYER, IT'S GOING TO COME AT THE EXPENSE OF EVERYTHING WE DO AS A CITY. THAT BEING SAID, I'M GOING TO SAY TO MY CONSTITUENTS IN THE WEST SAN FERNANDO VALLEY, I'M SORRY, WE'RE NOT GOING TO PAVE YOUR ROAD BUT WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS ANYWAY, BECAUSE WE NEED TO HELP THE PEOPLE WHO'S HOUSES BURNED DOWN. SO WE'RE GOING TO TAKE OUR MONEY THAT WOULD GO TO-->> City Attorney: MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, WE ALREADY HAD PUBLIC COMMENT.President: YOU'RE DISRUPTING THIS MEETING, THIS IS YOUR FIRST AND LAST WARNING. >> B. Blumenfield: I'M TRYING TO MAKE A SACRIFICE FOR THE FOLKS WHO ARE STANDING HERE, AND FOR THE FOLKS THAT LIVE IN THE COMMUNITY. IT IS COMING OUT OF THE POCKET OF MY CONSTITUENTS AND OUT OF THE POCKET OF THIS ENTIRE CITY. JUST THIS WEEKEND, WE WERE TALKING TO FOLKS WHO HAD CAPITOL STRUCTURE THAT HAVE WASHED OUT DURING THE RAINS AND WE'RE TOLD, YOU CANNOT DO THAT BECAUSE ALL THE RESOURCES ARE GOING TO THE PALISADES, THAT'S WHAT WE'RE TOLD BY THE DEPARTMENTS WHEN WE COULDN'T GET A PROJECT DONE. AND I SAY THAT, BUT I UNDERSTAND IT BECAUSE I'M VERY SYMPATHETIC TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE LOST EVERYTHING. BUT WHAT THE COMMITTEE DID BY LIMITING IT TO REBUILDING 110 PERCENT IS A VERY GENERAL PUS THING FOR THIS CITY TO DO AN APPROPRIATE THING. AND TO DO OTHERWISE, TO GO ON AND SAY, THERE IS NO LIMIT, THAT YOU CAN TAKE A FLOWER SHOP AND TURN IT INTO A WAL-MART OR SOMETHING THAT GOES WAY BEYOND GETTING BACK TO WHERE YOU WERE. THAT GOES INTO FURTHER BUILDING. SO I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE TO LIMIT THE REBUILD OF THE PERMIT THAT WE'RE GOING TO OBSERVE AS A CITY TO 110 PERCENT OF WHAT WAS THERE. SO THAT'S WHY I'M SUPPORTING THE BUDGET COMMITTEE PROPOSAL WHICH IS, WHICH IS TO GIVE 86 MILLION DOLLARS OF FUNDING TO PAYING THE FEES FOR FOLKS WHO'S HOMES HAVE BEEN BURNED DOWN. AND ANY STRUCTURE THAT HAS BEEN BURNED DOWN IN THE PALISADES. >> YEAH, WE ALSO FROM OUR UNDERSTANDING, BUDGET AND FINANCE LIBERATION ON THIS ITEM, WE DON'T BELIEVE YOU THE STRUCTURE DURING THAT DISCUSSION. SO WE KNOW THAT'S IN THE CITY REPORT BUT WE DON'T BELIEVE THAT WAS THE DECISION THAT WAS MADE THAT IT WAS ALL STRUCTURES UP TO 110 PERCENT OF THE ORIGINAL. >> B. Blumenfield: AS A PRACTICAL MEATER, A LOST COMMERCIAL STRUCTURES AND LARGER STRUCTURES ARE GOING TO BE FULLY INSURED. AND IF THEY ARE FULLY INSURED, THIS DOES AN MRIE, A--APPLY, IS THAT CORRECT? >> THAT'S CORRECT. >>B. Blumenfield: MOST THOSE OTHER STRUCTURE THAT'S WOULD COST A LOT, I MEAN, HOW ARE YOU GOING TO REBUILD A MULTI FAMILY STRUCTURE IF YOU DON'T HAVE INSURANCE. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO DO IT. BUT, I THINK IT'S APPROPRIATE FOR US TO GO TO THE 110 PERCENT. >> Council President: THANK YOU, MR. BLUMENFIELD. COUNCILMEMBER PADILLA. >> I. Padilla: YOU KNOW, AS SOMEBODY WHO IS NOT ON BFI OR ADD HO, I'VE GOT TO--AD HOC, I'VE GOT TO TALK ABOUT MY FRUSTRATION WITH HOW THIS WAS PRESENTED. I LISTENED TO THE COMMUNITY AND TALKS TO MY KLAOEGD WAS THERE A WAY TO SIMPLIFY TO SAY THAT WE WOULD WAIVE THESE FEES IF AND ONLY IF YOU'RE GOING TO REBUILD YOUR ORIGINAL DWELLING SIZE AND IF WE KNOW FOR A FACT THAT IT'S HOUSING, JUST AS A WAY TO MAKE SURE THAT WE DON'T ALLOW FOR A SITUATION FOR A FLOWER SHOP TO QUADRUPLE IN SIZE? WHY WAS IT SO DIFFICULT TO DO >> SO THAT LANGUAGE OF 110 PERCENT COMES FROM BUILDING AND SAFETY AND THAT'S WHAT THEY USE FOR THESE TYPES OF REBUILDING IS THE USE THAT MEASURE IN TERMS OF BUILDING TO ORIGINAL SIZE. >> >> I. Padilla: OKAY, NO FURTHER QUESTIONS. >> Council President: COUNCILMEMBER NAZARIAN. >> A. Nazarian: THANK YOU COUNCIL PRESIDENT, JUST AN ELEMENTARY-LEVEL QUESTION SO I UNDERSTAND SOMETHING. IF THE 110, BUDGET AND FINANCE PROPOSAL OF UP TO 110 PERCENT WAIVER IS PASSED TODAY, BUT AN OWNER OF A PROPERTY DECIDES TO BUILD UP TO 150 PERCENT, DO THEY GET THE FEES WAIVED ON THE 110 PERCENT PORTION? AND THEN THEY NEED TO PAY FOR THE REMAINING 40 PERCENT UNDER THAT PROPOSAL? IS THAT CORRECT OR DO THEY NOT GET THE BENEFIT AT ALL OF THE WAIVER ONCE IT SURPASSES 110 PERCENT. >> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION AND I THINK IT'S BETTER ANSWERED BY SOMEBODY FROM BUILDING AND SAFETY. I BELIEVE SOMEBODY IS HERE FROM BUILDING AND SAFETY. Anime. The anime isCOUNCILMEMBE PLEASE REPEAT THE QUESTION. >> A. Nazarian: THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE AND MAKING YOURSELF AVAILABLE. SO IF TODAY, THE BUDGET AND FINANCE PROPOSAL THAT LIMITS THE FEE WAIVER TO 110 PERCENT, MOVES FORWARD AND THAT'S WHAT IS ADOPTED MOVING FORWARD, AND A PROPERTY OWNER WHO OWNED A PROPERTY PRIOR TO JANUARY 7th, DECIDES TO BUILD SOMETHING UP TO 110 PERCENT, 130 PERCENT, ABOVE AND BEYOND, SLIGHTLY ABOVE THE 110 PERCENT LIMIT. DO THEY GET THEIR FEES WAVED? DO THEY GET THEIR FEES 110 PERC? OF THE NEW CONSTRUCTION? AND ONLY PAY THE REMAINING FEES FOR 10 PERCENT OVERAGE? OR, OR, DO THEY UNDER THIS PROPOSAL, NOT GET ANY WAIVERS BECAUSE IT SURPASSED THE 110 PERCENT LIMIT? >> I BELIEVE THAT WILL BE DEPENDENT ON HOW THE ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN. IF IT'S 110 PERCENT, YOU GET IT WAVED, BUT IF YOU GO PAST THE 110, IT CALCULATES ALL THE IMPACT FEES, FOR EXAMPLE THE LINKAGE FEES THE ARTS AND DEVELOPMENT FEES AND THE LAUSD FEES. NOW, WITH THOSE, I THINK THERE WAS A CONVERSATION ABOUT WAVING THOSE FEES, AT ONE POINT OF BUDGET AND FINANCE, BUT I WAS NOT SURE IF IT WAS ADDED INTO THE INSTRUCTION. BUT IT'S NOT, FOR US IT'S NOT CLEAR IF THEY, TO BE QUITE HONEST, IT'S NOT CLEAR FOR US ALSO IF THEY GET THE BENEFIT OF THE 110 PERMIT FEES BEING WAIVED AND ONLY WAY FOR THE DIFFERENCE. IT'S NOT CLEAR TO US ALSO AS A DEPARTMENT. >> KEN FONG CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE, I WOULD SUGGEST THAT YOU ADD ADDITION BECAUSE THE WAY THE INSTRUCTIONS ARE WRITTEN, IT SAYS UP TO 110 PERCENT SO LOOKING AT THAT AT FACE VALUE, YOU WOULD EXEMPT THOSE PROPERTIES BUT IF YOU WANT TO GIVE, A PRO RA AT THAT OF 110 PERCENT. DECIDES TO BUILD MORE THAN THAT, THEY SHOULD NOT BE PENALIZED FOR NOT GETTING THE WAIVER OF UP TO 110 PERCENT. I WOULD BE SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. TO MY COLLEAGUE IN DISTRICT 11, IF THAT'S AMENABLE. >> Council President: OKAY, WORKS OUT BECAUSE COUNCILMEMBER PARK IS THE NEXT PERSON ON THE QUEUE. >> T. Park: THANK YOU, AND WE APPRECIATE THE ACCOMMODATION SFRA TIME FOR PUBLIC COMMENT. AS YOU CAN THIS IS A CRITICALLY IMPORTANT ISSUE FOR SO MANY PEOPLE. COLLEAGUES JUST A BASIC REMINDER, ABSOLUTELY NOTHING, NOTHING ABOUT THIS REBUILT IS VOLUNTARY. NOT FOR ANYONE WHO LOST THEIR HOME OR THEIR PROPERTY, ON JANUARY , IT DOES NOT MATTER, WHETHER IT WAS A HOME, RENTED OR OWNED. OR Absolutamente nada. On January seventh, their entire show was taken from their homes, their churches, their schools. Memories. Their future. Recuerdos Sus futuros. Todo in a catastrophe that was known fault of their own. People survived terrifying evacuation. Sobrevivir sobrevivir en evacuations and everything they knew and loved. Mirando todo es conocian y todo lo querian jamas . Literally no one estos son modelos voluntarios literally nadie pidio. Son personas tratando de reconstruir para rebuild their lives. Tratando de reconstruir sus vidas milhares de aquellos and uninsured again through no fault of their own. Hundreds of them. Those days before the fire Los Dejaron. These are people who are incendios personas luchando con naciones. Sobre qué hacer ahora ? Estas son personas. A total loss and. De qué es una pérdida total y they are running out of acabando expenses are about to expire. Gastos TWO MONTHS AGO A THEY'RE ALSO PAYING AND I PERSONALLY KNOW TOO MANY OF THEM THAT ARE HOLDING ON BY A THREAD. THESE ARE, TEACHERS, ARTIST, AND SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS AN NURSES AND BUILDERS AND OFFICE WORKERS JUST LIKE ALL THE REST OF US ALL OVER L.A. SOME OF THEM, ARE GRANDPARENTS, SOME OF THEM ARE BRAND NEW FAMILIES, JUST STARTING OUT. SOME OF THEM HAVE BEEN THERE FOR GENERATIONS. THESE PEOPLE ARE OUR FRIENDS. THESE ARE OUR NEIGHBORS. AND THEY ARE ANGELINOS. WE OWE IT TO THEM. TO TAKE CARE OF THEM, JUST BECAUSE IT'S THE RIGHT THING TO DO! AND WHILE I DO APPRECIATE THE FISCAL CONCERNS RAISED BY THE BFI AND ITS REPORT, RESTRICTING THE FEE WAIVER TO SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES AND DUPLEXES WHICH IS CLEARLY WHAT THE REPORT DOES, JUST REPEATS THE SAME FALSEHOOD, THAT SOMEHOW THE PACIFIC PALISADES IS JUST AN ISLAND OF AFFLUENT, THE REALITY IS, WHAT WE LOST IS SO MUCH MORE IT IS RENT STABLELIZED MOBILE HOME PARKS WHICH I HAVE BEEN FIGHTING LIKE HELL TO HELP REBUILD DESPITE HITTING ONE CHALLENGE AFTER ANOTHER. DOZENS OF THEM WERE TOWN HOMES, NEARLY 1,000 UNITS OF RSO HOUSING, INCOME RESTRICTED CONDOS FOR SENIORS, THIS IS THE FORM OF HOUSING IN THE TRUEST SENSE OF THE WORD. AND FOR SO MANY OF OLDER MODEST SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES, 110 DOES NOT MAKE SENSE. THE COSTS OF LABOR, AND MATERIALS HAVING TO HIRE ARCHITECTS AND BUILDERS, THESE PEOPLE JUST EVERYTHING. AND UNLIKE THE BUDGET AND COMMITTEE REPORT, OUR REPORT FROM THE RECOVERY COMMITTEE CAPTURES THE BREATH OF THE HOUSING STOCK AND MORE THAT WAS LOST OR DAMAGED IN THE PALISADES FIRE. WE SHOULD NOT PICKING WINNERS AND LOSERS! TELLING ONE CLASS OF RESIDENTS, THAT WE'LL WAIVE YOUR FEES IF YOU OWN A SINGLE-FAMILY HOME, WHILE WE WAIVE YOUR FEES IF YOU OWN A DUPLEX. BUT WE'RE GOING TO TELL OTHER PEOPLE, TOO BAD YOU OWN A MOBILE HOME OR A CONNED DO. TOO BAD YOUR PROPERTY WAS A MULTI FAMILY. TOO BAD YOU LIVED IN THE ADU IN THE BACK OF A MAIN HOUSE. TOO BAD YOU OWNED A BUILDING ON SUNSET BOULEVARD IN THE HISTORIC BLOCK, BUSINESSES THAT HAVE SERVED GENERATIONS OF ANGELINOS. AND WORSE I CANNOT FIND A GOOD REASON FOR THE DISTINCTION, IT'S NOT THE FISCAL IMPACT OF REBUILDING ON MULTI FAMILY OR COMMERCIAL PROPERTIES IS ANY GREATER ACCORDING TO THE CAO'S OWN REPORT, WAIVERS WOULD BE LESS THAN SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES. AND MAYBE IN THE GRAND SCHEME OF THINGS, IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE, WAIVING THESE FEES IS ACTUALLY GOING TO MAKE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN REBUILDING AND GIVING THESE FOLKS A PATHWAY HOME. BUT FOR THEM, WHO ARE MAKING DECISIONS ABOUT WHETHER THEY CAN RETURN OR IF THEY'RE JUST GOING TO PACK UP AND LEAVE L.A. FOREVER, FOR TO US SHOW THEM THAT WE HAVE NR BACK, IT MIGHT JUST BE ENOUGH. ENOUGH TO CONVINCE A RETIREE TO STAY AND REBUILD, MAYBE IT WILL BE ENOUGH CONVINCE AN APARTMENT OWN TORE REBUILD SO THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THERE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO COME HOME TO. COLLEAGUES, I THINK THE ONLY THING THAT WE REALLY CAN DO HERE, IS TO STAND UP AND FOR THESE VICTIMS, VICTIMS WHO THROUGH NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN, HAVE HAD EVERYTHING STOLEN FROM THEM IN THIS CATASTROPHE. WE HAVE PRECEDENCE FOR DOING THIS AND MY ASK TO YOU ALL, IS THAT WE DO THE RIGHT THING D WE ADOPT THE AD HOC COMMITTEE REPORT. I WILL LIKE TO ASK, WHEN WE TAKE THE VOTE, CAUSE I DON'T KNOW, WHERE THE NUMBERS ARE GOING TO COME, IF THIS IS GOING TO BE LIMITED AND IF THE BFI REPORT IS WHAT IS GOING TO BE MOVED, I WOULD ASK WOULD YOU PLEASE AT LEAST PLEASE, CONSIDER A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT THAT WOULD DO THE FOLLOWING. INCLUDE A SUNSET DATE, JANUARY 7 2030. TWO, WAIVE REBUILDING FEES FOR THE INELIGIBLE PROPERTY OWNERS WHO'S FEES WERE ALREADY SUSPENDED AS OF THE AFFECTIVE DATE OF ORDINANCE. IF THOSE HOUSEHOLD FEES HAVE ALREADY BEEN SUSPENDED, CITY OF L.A. CAN'T BE A COLLECTION AGENCY. COMMITTED WERE MADE TO ALL OF THESE PEOPLE. AND THE MAYOR'S EXECUTIVE ORDER. 3, I THINK IT'S ABSOLUTELY ESSENTIAL THAT THE WAIVER TO LIKE FOR LIKE REBUILD, BE EXPANDED TO INCLUDE CONDOS, TOWN HOMES, APARTMENTS, AND OUR MOBILE HOME PARKS. [APPLAUSE] 4, WE HAVE TO REMOVE THE 110 PERCENT, REBUILD RESTRICTION FOR SINGLE-FAMILY HOMES AND DUPLEXES, FOR THE ECONOMIC FACTORS THAT I JUST DESCRIBED. AND FINALLY FOR ALL PROPERTIES UP TO 110 PERCENT, SHOULD BE WAVED BEFORE ANY FEES ARE CHARGED BEYOND THE 110 PERCENT. THANK YOU, COLLEAGUES. [APPLAUSE] . >> Clerk: IS THERE A SECOND TO MS. PARK'S AMENDMENT? >> Council President: I HAVE COUNCILMEMBER BLUMENFIELD ON THE QUEUE. >> B. Blumenfield: I HAVE A QUESTION, IS THERE ANY COST ESTIMATE IN TERMS OF THE PRO RA TA, WE'VE BEEN TOLD THAT IT'S GOING COST US 86 MILLION, IF IT'S 110 PERCENT. IF IT'S PRO RATA, IF YOU BUILD ABOVE THE 110 PERCENT, We haven't run that estimate. It was just up to 110 and there's no limit. But the 110 was. Was based on the assumption that it was 110 or bust. Right Right. Right. So the no limit was a SO THE NO LIMIT WAS 278, THAT'S A ROUGH ESTIMATE THAT WE HAVE. BUT WE HAVE NOT AN ESTIMATE IF YOU THE PROPERTIES THAT GO, YOU KNOW, TO 150 AND WHAT THAT THE COST WOULD BE THE DIFFERENCE ON THAT. WE HAVE NOT DONE THAT TYPE OF ESTIMATE, BUT IN MY CASE, IT COULD BE UP TO 278. >> B. Blumenfield: OKAY, I THINK IT'S A REASONABLE IDEA, I' GET A SENSE, EYES WIDE OPEN, WHAT IS THIS GOING TO COST US? >> ALL WE CAN GIVE YOU AT THIS POINT, IS THAT IT COULD BE A RANGE BETWEEN 86 AND 278, IT'S HARD TO KNOW WHO WOULD BUILD BEYOND 110 PERCENT. >> Council President: LOOK IT APPEARS TO ME, THAT, IT I DON'T WANT TO MAKE A JUDGMENT THAT IS CRITICAL BUT TO ME THAT A LOT OF THE QUESTIONS HAVE COME UP TODAY, HAVE NOT BEEN CALCULATED. WHEN YOU TELL ME IT'S BETWEEN 86 AND 278, IT HAS NOT BEEN VE . COUNCILMEMBER PARK PUT A NUMBER OF THINGS ON THE TABLE THAT A LOST US WOULD LIKE TO TAKE A LOOK AT. I'M UNCOMFORTABLE LOOKING AT THEM IF YOU CANNOT GIVE ME ANY IDEA HOW MUCH THEY COST. I JUST CAN'T DO IT. AND SO, I GUESS, PERHAPS THIS IS A CITY ATTORNEY QUESTION, IF WE GET THIS DONE TODAY, IF THE BUDGET AND FINANCE REPORT PASSES TODAY AS COUNCILMEMBER PARK SUGGESTED, IS THIS CLOSED? OR WE COME BACK AND SAY, LET'S CONSIDER MOBILE HOMES AND ALL THOSE THINGS? >> City Attorney: WELL YOU CAN ALWAYS ADOPT AN ORDINANCE AND LATER ON, YOU KNOW, AMEND IT. YOU CAN DO THAT. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT. >> JUST WANT TO CLARIFY, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, THIS ESTIMATE WAS BASED ON THE NUMBER OF PROPERTIES DESTROYED AND WORKING WITH BUILDING AND SAFETY AS TO IF THOSE BUILD UP TO THE ORIGINAL SIZE WHAT THAT WOULD ROUGH ESTIMATE, IF ANYONE BUILT BEYOND THAT, AGAIN IT'S MORE OF AN ART THAN A SCIENCE GIVEN THAT WE DON'T EXACTLY WHAT PEOPLE ARE GOING TO DO. >> Council President: SURE, I HAVE CONFIDENCE THAT WE CAN DO BETTER THAN WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US, THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. COUNCILMEMBER NAZARIAN IS YOUR HAND GOING UP? >> A. Nazarian: YES, THERE IS A COUPLE OF SIDE CONVERSATIONS HAPPENING, SO I DIDN'T HEAR IF THAT WAS A MOTION BY COLLEAGUE WAS PUTTING FORWARD? AND IF IT IS, I'M HAPPY TO SECOND IF YOU HAVE SOMETHING IN WRITING. BUT IT I THINK IT COVERED THE TENANTS OF THE SAFEGUARD AND PRO RATA ISSUE. I WOULD BE WILLING TO SUPPORT THAT AND I WOULD ENCOURAGE US TO SUPPORT THAT OUT TODAY AND BE ABLE TO LOOK AT AT THE ORDINANCE WHEN IT COMES BACK SO WE'RE NOT LOSING MORE TIME. BUT >> Council President: GOT YOU. ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMEMBER PARK. >> T. Park: I'M HAPPY TO CIRCULATE THAT IN WRITING AND YES, IT WAS PROPOSED AS WHAT, I HOPE WILL BE RECEIVED AS A FRIENDLY AMENDMENT TO THE BFI REPORT. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT. I SEE NOBODY ELSE ON THE QUEUE. YOU CANNOT. COUNCILMEMBER, I'M SORRY MADAM CLERK? WE'VE GOT A LOT OF THINGS IN THE AIR, CAN YOU GIVE US GUIDANCE ON WHAT IS BEFORE US IN WHAT ORDER? >> Clerk: YES, SO THE RIGHT NOW, THERE IS AN AMENDMENT TO THE BUDGET AND FINANCE REPORT, THAT WAS INTRODUCED BY COUNCILMEMBER PARK, SECONDED BY COUNCILMEMBER NAZARIAN. AND THE AMENDMENT COVERS VARIOUS TOPICS INCLUDING A SUNSET DATE AND AMONG OTHER THINGS. SO, THAT WOULD BE THE IMMEDIATE VOTE. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT, COUNCILMEMBER McOSKER? >> T. McOsker: THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I THINK THERE IS A LOST --A LOT OF VALUE IN THE AMENDMENT. BUT GOING TO THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT'S WORDS, I WOULD TO HEAR WHAT THE NUMBERS ARE. I THINK WE DO HAVE AN OBLIGATION TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE SPENDING GENERAL FUND DOLLARS TO RELIEVE THIS CRISIS. AND I THINK IT'S ARTFULLY CRAFTED BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT THE NUMBER IS. I WOULD PROPOSE THAT WE TAKE THIS INTO BUDGET AND FINANCE AND GET AN AN Thank you, Council president. I agree with Mr. McCosker. You know, this isn't funny. Money. It's not theoretical money. And we're going to have to do a budget in the spring that is going to take into account general funds shifts that we're going to have to make. We don't know how much it's going to be. And there was a lot to Councilman Parks proposed amendment. And I would like to before we vote on an amendment, understand what the fiscal implications of that is at a moment when we are after our first officer, at least $80 million in the hole for this fiscal year. I don't think it's responsible for us to vote on things when we don't know what the fiscal impact of that is. So I agree with Mr. McCosker that that amendment should come back to budget and finance. I also am not opposed to voting today on the underlying budget and finance report. And then hearing in the next possible. I commit to Councilman Park that we will hear at the next possible budget and Finance committee meeting once that park given to us from the CFO and we can layer back in additional exemptions. We're talking about a couple of weeks. We're not talking about months. I don't feel comfortable as budget chair moving an amendment that I don't know what the intent. All right. So Aprobar una modification sobre Los efectos. The last amendment was made by council member Perkins. La ultima modification de la Park con las cinco Dakota. As of that motion. Are you comfortable with it going to be at the next available? Con regresar este esta modification o quieren votar ya, senor Presidente, estas personas tienen meses. Esperando esta. Incertidumbre. Were already made to these folks by the mayor months ago. It has taken us weeks and months to get us here. So I understand. Para para este acaso Enviado said, is wrong in fact, it has a head scratcher to me that we are sitting here today without the numbers and not having taken into the number of properties that are cuenta numero de propriedades q las cuales son las propiedades. Frankly, I'm a participar that we have as many questions as we have to do, and we couldn't even get an accurate answer when we say respuesta correcta. So theoretically I am not opposed to sending it because it is this important. I need a commitment that it's going to come back fast. We will. I think the committee chair is committed to that, and I'm committed to that. As chair of this body, Councilmember Nazarian okay. All right. So we'll refer that to budget and finance, the committee, the written, um, the written amendment. Uh, Madam Clerk, what's next? Senora. Secretary the vote on the voter to actually next would be amendment 23. C and that was modification . Rodriguez Rodriguez, Yaroslavsky, and, um, can you just give us briefly what the content of that is? UN resumen de este contenido? Yes This. 2023 C it was mis stamped a because, uh, on the agenda 23 A is the ad hoc recovery report. 23 B is the Budget and Finance Committee report. So 23 C is really es para el informe del member Rodriguez Yaroslavsky amendment. So itZ-YAROSLAVSKY AMENDMENT, SO IT'S STAMPED 23-A. BUT ANYWAY, THE AMENDMENT REQUESTED THE CITY ATTORNEY TO REVISE THE DRAFT ORDINANCE DATED JUNE 20, 2025 TO INCLUDE ANY PROPERTY OWNER WHO UTILIZED THE FEE WAIVER BE REQUIRED TO REIMBURSE THE CITY, THE FEE WAIVER AMENDMENT IF THE PROPERTY OWNERSHIP IS TRANSFERRED WITHIN 60 MONTHS OF COMPLETION OF CONSTRUCTION. >> Council President: COUNCILMEMBER McOSKER? COUNCILMEMBER NAZARIAN? COUNCILMEMBER PARK? >> T. Park: JUST, COUNCIL PRESIDENT IF WE'RE GOING TO SEND THINGS BACK TO COMMITTEE, IT ALL NEEDS TO GO TO COMMITTEE. WE CANNOT BE PIECE MEALING, THIS NEEDS TO BE A COMPREHENSIVE PACKAGE OF RELIEF FOR OUR DISASTER VICTIMS. I ASK THAT IT ALL GO TOGETHER AN COME BACK TOGETHER. >> Council President: OKAY. MADAM CLERK, WHAT'S. >> Clerk: SO FOR THE RECORD, 23-C IS REFERRED TO BUDGET AND FINANCE AND FOR CLARIFICATION, IS THE WHOLE MATTER 23 REFERRED TO BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMITTEE? OKAY. >> Council President: THAT'S THE REQUEST. >> Clerk: OKAY THE 23, THE ENTIRE MATTER IS REFERRED TO BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMITTEE. >> Council President: MR. BLUMENFIELD. >> B. Blumenfield: WHY DON'T WE AT LEAST MOVE FORWARD ON THE WAIVERS? >> Council President: I WOULD SECOND THAT. >> B. Blumenfield: WE HAVE THE AMENDMENT WHICH MAKE SENSE. THE BUDGET AND FINANCE REPORT. WE CAN DELAY IT BUT I THINK WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD ON SOMETHING. >> CouncilPresident: YEAH, I WOULD SAY MEMBERS, THE THING THAT THERE SEEMS TO BE UNIVERSAL AGREEMENT ON IS AT LEAST WHAT IS IN THE BUDGET COMMITTEE, I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF US THAT WANT TO ADD A LOST DIFFERENT THINGS. BUT WE CAN DISPOSE OF THAT PART OF IT TODAY. MADAM BUDGET CHAIR, I WILL DIFFER TO YOU, BECAUSE THIS IS YOUR COMMITTEE WORK THAT IS GOING TO BE IMPACTED HERE. >> K. Yaroslavsky: THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I THINK THAT'S FINE. WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON TODAY IS ASKING OR DIRECTING THE CITY ATTORNEY OFFICE TO DRAFT THE ORDINANCE. SO IT'S GOING TO TAKE THEM SOME TIME TO DO ANYWAY. SO IF WE CAN HEAR THE AMENDMENTS IN BUDGET AND FINANCE AND GET SOME COST ESTIMATE IN TERMS OF THE DELTA ON TOP OF THE 86, THEN WE CAN VOTE ON THE AMENDMENT IN A COUPLE OF WEEKS AND THAT CAN INFORM THE DRAFTING. I DON'T THINPROBLEM IN TERMS OF TIMING. THEY CAN GET STARTED IF WE VOTE ON IT TODAY. >> Council President: OKAY, MR. McOSKER, COUNCILMEMBER PARK? >> T. Park: COUNCILMEMBER YAROSLAVSKY, BUT THEN AREN'T WE GIVING INCOMPLETE INSTRUCTIONS, AND THEN AMENDED AND SLOW EVERYTHING SLOW DOWN AGAIN AND AGAIN. WAIT UNTIL JANUARY 7th. >> K. Yaroslavsky: DO YOU WANT TO SEND IT ALL BACK TO COMMITTEE? THAT'S FINE. >> T. Park: YES. >> K. Yaroslavsky: IN THE MEANTIME, NOBODY IS PAYING ANY FEES AND NOBODY HAS THAT CERTAINITY. I'M SORRY, I'M SORRY. SO THE QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT YOU WANT TO HAVE SOME CERTAINITY AND SOME PARAMETERS ABOUT SOME OF THE UNIVERSE THAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. THAT'S A QUESTION FOR YOU, COUNCILWOMAN, DO YOU WANT SOME CERTAINITY AND THEN WE PAY ADDITIONAL. >> T. Park: BECAUSE WE'RE NOT COLLECT THE FEES, I WANT TO HAVE COMPLETE INFORMATION AND COSTA NAL SIS THAT LOOKS AT THE VARIOUS ALTERNATIVES THAT WE'VE INCLUDED SO WE CAN ASSESS A COMPLETE PICTURE AND THEN GIVE CLEAR DIRECTION TO THE CITY ATTORNEY AND GET ONE ORDINANCE BACK, ONE TIME AND SEND IT THOSE FOLKS ON THEIR WAY. >> K. Yaroslavsky: EXCELLENT. GOING BACK TO COMMITTEE. >> Council President: OKAY, I SEE A LOT OF THUMBS UP AND NOBODY ON QUEUE. MADAM CLERK, WHAT IS BEFORE US. >> Clerk: SO THE ENTIRE MATTER 23 IS REFERRED TO BUDGET AND FINANCE COMMITTEE. SO COUNCIL NEXT ITEM IS 24 AND THAT WAS CALLED SPECIAL BY AN AMENDMENT AND THAT IS AMENDMENT SOTO-MARTINEZ-HERNANDEZ. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT. COUNCILMEMBER SOTO-MARTINEZ? >> H. Soto-Martinez: OH MY GOD. THANK YOU SO MUCH. COUNCIL PRESIDENT, IT'S BEEN A LONG DAY, I APPRECIATE EVERY ONE'S PATIENCE. I SUBMITTED AN AMENDMENT TO ITEM 24-A, THAT I THINK IS IMPORTANT THAT WE SHOULD ALL THINK ABOUT. BECAUSE IN ITEM IS ABOUT THE CITY COMPLYING WITH AB481 A LAW THAT WAS PASSED BY THE GEORGE FLOYD UPRISING. AND IF YOU REMEMBER AT THE TIME, THERE WAS A HUGE OUTCRY ABOUT MULT REEQUIPMENT IN RESPONSE TO THE PROTEST. TO REMEDY THE STATE PASSED A B481 WHICH SAYS WE'RE REQUIRED TO REVIEW THE USE AND APPROVE ONLY IF LEGAL STANDARDS HAVE BEEN MET. IF ALL THE FOLLOWING ARE TRUE. ONE, THAT THERE IS NO REASONABLE ALTERNATIVE TO ACHIEVE OFFICER AND CIVILIAN SAFETY. TWO THAT THE SAFEGUARD AND CIVIL LIBERTY AND THREE THAT PRIOR USE IS COMPLIED WITH THE MILITARY EQUIPMENT USED POLICY AND THEY DID NOT, THEN CORRECTIVE ACTION HAS BEEN TAKEN. IF ONE OF THESE STANDARDS HAVE NOT BEEN MET, WE HAVE A DUTY TO WITHHOLD THAT APPROVAL. NOW OVER THE PAST FEW MONTHS, WE'VE SEEN VERIFIED EQUIPMENT IN WAY THAT'S SHOULD BE MAKE EVERY ONE HERE IN THIS BODY PAWS. A 40-MILLIMETER SHOT AT PEACEFUL PROTEST EXERCISING THEIR RIGHTS, UNLIKE ANYTHING WE'VE SEEN IN DECADES AND IN ONE SINGLE DAY, ON JUNE 8th, ACCORDING TO A B48 REPORT WHICH IS A SEPARATE LAW, WE SAW OVER 1,000 PROJECTILES FILED AT ABOUT 6,000 PEOPLE INCLUDING 20 ROUNDS OF CHEMICAL AGENTS. IN RESENT MONTHS, WE'VE WATCHED THIS EQUIPMENT DEPLOYED IN WEAKEN TACTICS WE CONDEMN IN RAIDS. OUR RESIDENTS SHOULD BE ABLE TO EXPRESS THEIR RIGHTS WITHOUT BEING MET WITH RUBBER BULLETS OR TEAR GAS. THIS IS NOT A RESPONSE TO FEW BAD ACTORS. NOW IN PUBLIC SAFETY REPORT, THERE WERE MANY TYPES OF EQUIPMENT THAT CLEARLY SERVE LEGITIMATE PURPOSES IN THE CITY, SPECIALIZED TOOLS FOR BOMB SQUADS, ESTIMATES USED TO SAVE LIVES, BUT AB481 BECAUSE NOT SAY THAT WE HAVE TO APPROVE EVERYTHING OR NOTHING. WHEN ONE CATEGORY FAILS TO MEET THE STATUTORY STANDARDS, WE'RE REQUIRED TO VOTE NO. ONLY RESTRICT 40 MILLIMETERS PROJECTILES AND TEAR GAS, TWO PIECE OF EQUIPMENT THAT WE'VE SEEN WIDELY ABUSED. COLLEAGUES, A B481 WAS PASSED IN A MOMENT IN HISTORY THAT DECIDED THAT WE WERE MAKING PROGRESS HOW WE POLICE. MY AMENDMENT IS ABOUT FOLLOWING THE LAW, PROTECTING CIVIL LIBERTIES AND ENSURING THAT EQUIPMENT IS USED ONLY WHEN NECESSARY WITH THE VALUES OF THE CITY. I'M URGING THIS COUNCIL TO NOT GO BACKWARDS AND THAT'S WHY I'M ASKING FOR A YES-VOTE THAT IS NARROWLY TAYLORED UNTIL WE CAN FIND OUT ABOUT HOW THIS IS BEING USED IN OUR CITY STREETS. I URGE A YES-VOTE ON A B481. >> Council President: COUNCILMEMBER LEE. >> J. Lee: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. IT'S ALWAYS MY FEAR WHEN WE TALK ABOUT LIMITING NON LETHAL MUNITION THAT OUR OFFICERS WHEN PUT IN HARM'S WAY, DON'T HAVE ALTERNATIVES TO TURN TO, BESIDES LETHAL. WHICH IS NONE OF US WANT. I BELIEVE THE CHIEF IS HERE, CHIEF DO YOU MIND AND CITY ATTORNEY JOIN US AT THE TABLE.D. >> J. Lee: THANK YOU, CHIEF FOR JOINING US. WHAT OPERATIONAL IMPACT WOULD THIS HAVE TO LAPD TO REMOVE THESE TWO ITEMS? IF YOU CAN GIVE US AN EXPLANATION OR MAYBE ALSO, INSTANCES WHERE WE'VE HAD TO USE THEM. >> YEAH, I LOOK AT THIS AND TO ME, THIS IS AMAZING THAT WE WOULD BE ENTERTAINING. A 40-METER PROJECTILE HAVE USED EVERY DAY TO PEOPLE WHO HAVE WEAPONS AND COMING AT OUR OFFICERS AND OUR RESIDENT TO BE ABLE TO PROTECT THEM. IT'S A DEESCALATION TOOL, SHORT OF USING DEADLY FORCE. THE LAST THING WE WANT TO USE IS DEADLY FORCE. TAKING A TOOL AWAY FROM US, PUTS US IN A BAD POSITION RELATIVE TO CITY LIABILITY, AND RELATIVE TO PROTECTING OUR OFFICERS, AND THE PUBLIC THAT WE SERVE. I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT YOU'RE GONG DOWN THIS ROAD TO BE VERY HONEST AND GAS, THAT YOU ALSO PUT IN THE SUPPLEMENTAL. GAS WAS USED IN JUNE AT A POINT WHERE, PROTESTERS HAD TAKEN DOWN ANNINGS, BACKED THEM UP WITH WATER BERRIES AND USING P B.C. TO SHOOT COMMERCIAL GRADE TO AT OFFICERS, THAT'S DEADLY FORCE. WE TRY TO USE LESS LETHAL, OTHER TOOLS TO BE ABLE TO STOP THAT ASSAULT, IT WAS NOT AFFECTIVE. AND SO IN AN EFFORT TO DEESCALATION, CHEMICAL AGENT WAS DEPLOYED AND EXTREMELY AFFECTIVE AND PREVENTED THINGS THAT NONE OF US WOULD WANT HAPPEN THAT DAY HAPPEN. SO WHEN I LOOK AT THIS, IT'S MY HOPE IS, THAT WE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO BE ABLE NEXT TIME TO EDUCATE MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, AS TO WHAT THESE TOOLS DO AND WHAT THEY DON'T DO, RATHER THAN BE SWAYED BY EMOTION OR SWAYED BY THE LOUD VOICES OF A RELATIVE FEW, WE'RE HERE TO PROTECT 40 MILLION RESIDENTS OF LOS ANGELES AND VISITORS. SER WE'RE GOING INTO THE WORLD CUP AND O LIMB --OLYMPICS AND PARAOLYMPICS TO TAKE A DEESCALATION TOOLS, TO ME IS A HEAD SCRATCHER. >> Council President: ANYTHING ELSE? >> J. Lee: CHIEF, IF I KNOW, YOU HAVE THE CITY ATTORNEY, I WAS WONDERING IF THEY CAN WEIGH IN ON THIS ISSUE AT ALL? >> YEAH, IF I COULD BEFORE. MY ASK AND THAT'S REALLY WHY I'M HERE, THAT HAD YOU GIVE CONSIDERABLE THOUGHT TO THIS ITEM AND AWE PROOF AL THE RENEWAL OF ORDINANCE WITHOUT THAT AMENDMENT, THIS HAS TO BE COMPLETED OR WE LOSE THE ABILITY TO DEPLOY THE EQUIPMENT THAT TO THE PUBLIC, THAT HAS NOT HAD AN OPPORTUNITY TO READ. COVERED BY A B481 INCLUDES ALL ARMOR VEHICLES SO OUR BEAR CATS THAT WE USE EVERY SINGLE DAY TO FUT THIS TOOL BETWEEN THE PUBLIC AND SUSPECT AND DEADLY FIRE, IT SAVES LIVES BEYOND WHAT I CAN DESCRIBE HERE. INTER IMMEDIATE YANS SUCH AS THE BEAN BAG, THE 37 MILLIMETER, 40 AND 47 AND FOAM PROJECT AISLES USED TO BE ABLE TO DEESCALATE A SITUATION SHORT OF DEADLY FORCE. AND DEADLY TRAILERS WHICH WE GLOID TO SPORTING EVENTS AND COMMUNITY EVENTS, AND AGAIN WE HAVE THESE MAJOR EVENTS WORLDWIDE EVENTS COMING TO LOS ANGELES IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF YEARS. THE 40 MILLIMETER GIVES US A TOOL TO DEAL WITH PEOPLE WITH EDGE WEAPON, WE USE IT IN CROWD CONTROL BUT TARGETED FOR BEHAVIOR AND IT'S TRULY A DE ESCALATION TOOL. AND THE UNREST WE SAW IN JUNE. WE'RE ASKING OUR POLICETO DO AN INCREDIBLY JOB WITH FEW JOBS AND NOW WE'RE LOOKING TO TAKE AWAY TOOLS THAT THEY HAVE AT THEIR DISPOSAL. THIS IS INCREDIBLY--TO GO DOWN THIS ROAD. TO ME IT'S SHORT-SIDED.IS NO OTHER CITY IN CALIFORNIA THAT THEIR TACTICAL OPTIONS LIMITED BY A BODY SUCH AS THIS. I HAVE NOT SEEN IT YE. TAKING AWAY LESS LETHAL USE, AND REDUCING TACTICAL OPTIONS WILL RESULT ANYONE CREASED LIABILITY FOR THE CITY AND MORE IMPORTANTLY ADDITIONAL RISK FOR OFFICERS AND COMMUNITY MEMBERS ALIKE. THE SUPPLEMENTAL AMENDMENT WOULD BE DESTRIMENTED TO THE RESIDENTS OF L.A. WHO RELY ON LAPD TO PROTECT THEIR LIVES. LAPD OFFICERS WILL ALWAYS PUT THEMSELVES IN HARMS WAY, FROM WHERE I SIT IS UNCONSIDERATIONABLE. >> Council President: THANK YOU CHIEF. MR. LEE, I JUST WANTED WRAP UP. WE'RE ALMOST AT TIME. >> Lee: YES, COLLEAGUES, WE'RE ABOUT TO TAKE AWAY A TOOL FROM LAPD WHEN NAIR PUT INTO SITUATIONS WHERE WE DON'T WANT THEM TO HAVE LETHAL FORCED TO TURN TO. WE DON'T WANT THEM TO TURN TO THEIR SIDE ARM WHEN SOMEBODY IS COMING AT THEM WITH A KNIFE OR OBJECT. THESE ARE TOOLS YOU USE. IN SITUATIONS LIKE THE ONE IN JUNE, WHERE THEY'RE, WHERE THEY'RE BEING COMMERCIAL GRADE FIREWORKS SHOT AT THEM? WHAT DO THE OFFICERS TURN TO OTHER THAN THAT USE OF LETHAL FORCED TO PROTECT THEMSELVES FROM BODILY HARM AND THAT'S WHEN THEY USE. I KNOW THAT THE LAPD DOES NOT JUST USE GAS WHENEVER THE SITUATION, THE ONLY WHEN THE SITUATION WARRANTS IT. I HOPE BEFORE YOU VOTE, YOU REALLY THINK ABOUT WHAT WE ARE DOING HERE. IF WE ARE LIMITING LAPD'S ABILITY TO RESPOND TO KEEP NOT ONLY ANGELINOS SAFE BUT TO KEEP OUR OFFICERS SAFE AS WELL. AND I URGE A NO-VOTE AGAINST THE AMENDMENT AND YES ON THE OVERALL ITEM. >> Council President: THANK YOU, MR. LEE. COUNCILMEMBER JURADO? COUNCILMEMBER HERNANDEZ? >> E. Hernandez: THANK YOU, CHIEF FIRST AND FOR MOST, I RECOGNIZE THE GOAL THE DEPARTMENT WANTS TO ACHIEVE WITH CROWD CONTROL, AND AT THE SAME TIME, I HAVE GREAT CONCERN OF CS GAS BECAUSE THE WELL DOCUMENTED ABOUT THE AFFECTS ON PEOPLE INCLUDING THOSE THAT ARE IN THE IMMEDIATE VICINITY. I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS, I'LL TRY TO GO THROUGH THEM AS QUICKLY. TEAR GAS IS BAND UNDER THE GENEVA CONVENTIONS BECAUSE OF ITS ABILITY TO CAUSE CHEMICAL BURNS AND BREATHING FAILURE. IF IT'S TOO DANGEROUS TO USE ON ENEMY COMBATANTS CAN YOU EXPLAIN WHY IT'S EASIER. >> CS GAS IS DIFFERENT FROM WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING. IT'S GENERALLY ACCEPTED CROWD CONTROL TOOL, WE USE IT ONLY AS A LAST RESORT TO RESTORE ORDER. PEOPLE IN YOUR ENVIRONMENT DISBURSAL, PEOPLE HAVE BEEN GIVEN TIME TO LEAVE THE AREA AND WE DO IT OVER AND OVER AGAIN, AND SOMETIMES IN MULTIPLE LANGUAGES. PEOPLE HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY TO LEAVE THAT ENVIRONMENT. ONLY WHEN OFFICERS AND OTHER PEOPLE IN THE ENVIRONMENT ARE BEING VIOLENTLY ASSAULTED WILL WE CONSIDER THE USE OF SOMETHING LIKE CHEMICAL DISBURSAL AGENCY. >> E. Hernandez: THANK YOU, I WILL SAY SOMETIMES THOSE MOMENTS HAPPEN QUICKLY. I WAS AT ONE OF THE PROTEST WATCHING WHAT WAS HAPPENING AND DISBURSAL ORDER CAME IN AND IT WAS NOT CLEAR BUT THEY HAD EVERYBODY RUNNING BY THEM LAPD IN THE AREA. I KNOW THERE IS A LOT ON WORK IT. NUMBER 2, TEAR GAS CARRIES INTO HOMES AND BUSINESSES WHAT IS LAPD SCIENTIFIC FOR CLAIMING YOU CAN DEPLOY CHEMICAL WEAPON IN DENSE NEIGHBORS LIKE OURS. >> WE ONLY DO IT WHEN OUR OFFICERS AND PUBLIC IS BEING ASSAULTED. >> THEN IT'S NOT A DE ESCALATION. IT'S A CROWD MOVING TACTIC? RIGHT. >> IT'S A DEESCALATION TACTIC AFTER THEY'VE BEEN ORDERED TO LEAVE THE ENVIRONMENT AND CONTINUE TO MOVE. WE WOULD NOT USE IF THEY MOVED OUT OF THERE. >> E. Hernandez: UNDERSTOOD, BUT I WANT TO BE CAREFUL ON HOW WE USE DEESCALATION, IT'S TO REDUCE THE TENSION OF A SITUATION BUT, TEAR GAS IS NOT, REDUCING HARM, IT'S INFLICTING MORE HARM. AND ALSO, THE RUBBER BULLETS, THOSE ARE INFLICTING MORE HARM. I'VE SEEN CASES WHERE PEOPLE'S TESTICLES HAVE BEEN BLOWN UP. --BLOWN OFF. >> IT'S SERIOUS BUT WE USE IT AS DEESCALATION TOOL. THE DETERRENT IS NOT WANT TO GO TO AS A CITY. >> E. Hernandez: I WOULD SAY IT'S A CROWD CONTROL TOOL NOT DEESCALATION. >> HERE'S DEADLY FORCE, HERE IS LESS LETHAL FORCE. >> E. Hernandez: THAT'S USING A DIFFERENT TOOL. >> E. Hernandez: DEESCALATION YOU'RE TRAINED, SO THERE IS A TACTIC, IT'S A WORK OF ART, WHAT YOU'RE USING A GUN THAT CAN KILL SOMEBODY, VERSUS A DIFFERENT DIFFICULT. >> THE RESULT IS DIFFERENT, THAT'S WHY WE USE IT BECAUSE IT DEESCALATION THE SITUATION WHERE YOU'RE NOT USING A HIGH-LEVEL OF FORCE. >> E. Hernandez: WE CAN AGREE TO DISAGREE. NUMBER 3, I WANT TO I UNDERSTAND WHY IT CAN--PLEASE WALK US THROUGH THIS IN DETAIL. WHAT SPECIFIC PUBLIC SAFETY OUTCOMES BECOME IMPOSSIBLE IF THESE WEAPONS ARE NO LONGER AUTHORIZED? CAN YOUR DEPARTMENT NO LONGER PERFORM WITH TOOLS THAT ARE INTERNATIONAL BANNED IN WARFARE. >> SO YOU'RE TALKING THE 40 AND GAS OR EVERYTHING IN 481. >> 40 AND THE GAS. >> OKAY, BOTTOM LINE, IF YOU TAKE LESS AWAY LETHAL TOOLS WHAT ALTERNATIVES ARE LEFT FOR THE OFFICERS TO PROTECT THEMSELVES AND THE PUBLIC. I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAVE LOOKED AT AT THE SITUATION FROM THE OFFICER' STAND POINT. THEY TRY AND I TELL YOU, DURING THE RESENT UNREST IN JUNE, THE LEVEL OF RESILIENCE, THEIR ABILITY TO WITHSTAND WHAT THEY WERE DOING, WAS ADD MEASURABLE. AND I LOOK AT THE WORK THAT WAS DONE OUT THERE, WE HAVE BECOME A MODEL FOR THE REST OF THE COUNTRY FOR HANDLING CROWD MANAGEMENT. WE TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY. WE DON'T DEPLOY ANY TOOL TACTIC WITHOUT TAKING CONSIDERATION. I WOULD INVITE YOU TO GET EDUCATED ON WHAT YOU'RE ABOUT TO VOTE ON. I HAVE A STANDING INVITATION FOR A RIDE ALONG. >> E. Hernandez: THANK YOU FOR THAT OPPORTUNITY. NOW, MY ASK WAS ABOUT ANY DATA, DO YOU HAVE ANY DATA? AND ALSO CAN YOU PLEASE TELL US >> DATA ON WHAT? >> ON THE ETHICACY THE TOOLS? >> RIGHT NOW? >> >> E. Hernandez: YOU CAN COME BACK. >> I'M HAPPY TO MEET WITH YOU AND GIVE YOU WHATEVER DATA THAT WE CAN PROVIDE THAT WOULD MAKE SENSE. I CAN TELL YOU FROM AN EXPERIENCED STAND POINT THAT THE TOOLS YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, DEESCALATION A SITUATION AND LIMIT ANY DAMAGE TO AN INDIVIDUAL AND THAT ENVIRONMENT, THAT'S THE REASON WE USE THEM. THE LAST THING WE WANT TO DO IS USE DEADLY FORCE. SO THE AND LAST QUESTION, THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. NOW, AFTER THE RAIDS, AFTER THE FIRST FEW PROTESTS THAT WERE OCCURRING SMFT US MET WITH THE BOARD OF COMMISSIONERS AND THEY TALKED ABOUT HOW THERE WAS OVER 60 CASES BEING IDENTIFIED OF OVER USE OF FORCE. WHEN YOU SAY THE TOOLS AND WEAPONS ARE MODELS, THAT CONCERNS ME BECAUSE WE'RE ABOUT TO START RECEIVING ALL OF THOSE LAWSUITS. AND LAWSUIT PAY OUT FOR LAPD ARE ONE OF THE HIGHEST. SO IF THE MODEL THAT PEOPLE ARE MIRROR IS GOING TO COST THE CITY BUDGET. >> YOU TALK ABOUT COMPLAINTS, WE'RE AN ORGANIZATION THAT TAES A COMPLAINT ANYTIME ANYBODY TAKES AN ALLEGATION MAYBE MISCONDUCT OR WORSE. WE TAKE EVERY COMPLAINT AND INVESTIGATE IT FULLY. WE USE DO OF FORCE REVIEWS AND INVESTIGATIONS AND THEN ADJUDICATE THEM IN A WAY THAT IS REPLICATED. AND WE HAVE BEEN THE MODEL FOR ABOUT 22 YEARS. I TAKE THEM SERIOUSLY BECAUSE WE ENSURE THAT DO THE BEST WE CAN FOR THE RESIDENTS OF LOS ANGELES. THAT IS RECOGNIZED BY OTHER EXPERTS WHO LOOK AT THIS STUFF EVERY DAY. AND I WOULD LOVE TO EDUCATE YOU MORE THAN HAS BEEN DONE IN THE PAST ABOUT THE ISSUES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT TODAY. WE'RE TALKING LIFE OR DEATH HERE ON THE DECISION YOU'RE ABOUT TO MAKE. >> E. Hernandez: 100 PERCENT, AND IT'S 2025 AND I'M SURE THAT THERE ARE OTHER TOOLS THAT THEY CAN USE. >> ARE YOU SURE? I'M HAPPY TO SHOW YOU WHAT ARE AVAILABLE UP THERE. WE GO AND MEET WITH MANUFACTURES AND VENDORS TO LOOK WHAT IS OUT THERE, TO EVOLVE TO BE BETTER THAN THAN WE WERE YESTERDAY. WE'RE WELL AWARE AND WE USE THE TOOLS THAT WORK BEST TO TRY TO ACHIEVE THE GOALS THAT ARE SET AND THAT IS TO PROVIDE THE SAFEST CITY FOR THE RESIDENTS OF LOS ANGELES THAT WE POSSIBLY CAN. >> E. Hernandez: I HEAR YOU, AND ALSO WE FEED TO BE FISCALLY RESPONSIBLE AND IF THE TOOLS THAT WE'RE USING ARE CAUSING MORE FISCAL UNCERTAINITY, WE NEED TO REFLECT AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE ASKING FOR THIS MOTION. >> TO ME, I CAN'T PUT THOSE TOGETHER. YOU'RE TRYING TO PUT A PRICE ON SAVING LIVES, WE'RE SAVING LIVES AND YES WE'RE GOING TO GET LAWSUIT AND YES WE'RE GOING TO COMPLAINT AND WE DEAL WITH THE LAWSUIT BUT AT THE END OF THE DAY, WE'RE TRYING TO PROTECT PEOPLE AND OUR OFFICERS AS WELL WE'RE IN THE SAFETY BUSINESS. SO TO TRY TO TAKE AND TALK ABOUT THE FISCAL REALITY THE CITY IS FACING, TWO SEPARATE CONVERSATIONS. >> E. Hernandez: IT'S NOT, I SIT IN BUDGET AND FINANCE, WE HAD THREE DIFFERENT CASES WHERE IT WAS 10 MILLION DOLLARS FOR EACH OF THOSE CASES. YOU CANNOT SEPARATE WHERE THE TAX DOLLARS ARE DEALING WITH THE LAWSUITS. >> YEAH, I UNDERSTAND THAT. >> Council President: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER HERNANDEZ. I'VE GOT COUNCILMEMBER SOTO-MARTINEZ AND THEN WE WANT TO BRING THERE ISSUE TO A DECISION. >> H. Soto-Martinez: THANK YOU SO MUCH. MR. PRESIDENT, I WANT TO BE CLEAR TO MY COLLEAGUES, I THINK THERE WAS A MISREPRESENTATION OF WHAT TRIEM --TRYING TO ACCOMPLISH HERE. AND EVEN IF WE WERE TO VOTE AND AND TEAR GAS, POLICE OFFICERS STILL HAVE FN303 DISTRACTION DEVICES, AND PEPPER SPRAY. SO EVEN IF WE TAKE IT AWAY, LET'S NOT FALL FOR THE ARGUMENT THAT THEY HAVE NO TOOL. THE ISSUE I'M TRYING TO GET TO IS HOW THIS CITY IS BEING PERCEIVED IN THE MOMENT WHEN THE FOLKS ARE TRYING TO PROTEST AGAINST THE GOVERNMENT AND THE RISE OF FASCISM IN AMERICA AND HOW WE AS A CITY ARE ACTING. AND THE TWO PLACES, CHIEF WHERE I FIND ISSUE AND I MADE THIS MANY TIMES IN THE LAST FEW MONTHS IS HOW WE'RE USING THE 40 MILLIMETERS AND THE TEAR GAS. AND WHEN GUIDED WHETHER THIS IS CORRECT OR INCORRECT I'M LOOKING AT AB48 A LAW THAT WAS PASSED THAT SAYS HOW WE USE CONNETIC PROJECTILES, I KNOW YOU'RE FAMILIAR WITH THIS, E LAW LITERALLY THAT THESE CAN ONLY BE USED WHEN DEESCALATION TACTICS OR OTHER ALTERNATIVES TO FORCE HAVE BEEN ATTEMPTED, THIS IS NOT A DEESCALATION. >> IT'S A CONTINUANCE. >> I'M READING THE LAW. >> GO AHEAD. >> H. Soto-Martinez: SECOND OF AWE, AB SAYS, USING TARGET-SPECIFIC UP TO THE POLICE OFFICER TO IDENTIFY THE PERSON THAT IS CAUSING THE SO-CALLED VIOLENCE AND THAT THAT PERSON CAN BE HIT WITH THE 40-MILLIMETER PROJECTILE. I FIND IT HARD TO BELIEVE THAT ON JUNE 8th, WE SHOT OVER A THOUSAND OF THESE PROJECTILES TO 6,000 PEOPLE. THAT IS NOT TARGET SPECIFIC. MAKE NA ARGUMENT HOW IS SHOOTING 8,000 PROJECTILES. >> YEAH, QUOTING IS NOT 40 MILLIMETERS, IT'S TOTAL, 37 MILLIMETER AND 40, YEAH, YOU MAY -- -- >> H. Soto-Martinez: ONE WAS 600 AND ONE WE CAN START PARSING THE NUMBERS. TELL ME HOW WE'RE FOLLOWING A B48. >> A LOST THOSE PROJECT AISLES ARE NOT HITTING THEIR TARGET. AND YOU'RE IN BUSINESS. WE INVITE YOU TO SEE THE VIDEO. THE SAFE GUARDS WE PUT IN PLACE TO ENSUREFOLLOWING THE LAW. WE TAKE GREAT PRIDE IN OUR ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO DO OUR JOB. SO FOR YOU, WITHOUT COMING TO SEE WHAT WE DO TO MAKE SHE'S CHALLENGES, I'M TROUBLED BY THAT. >> H. Soto-Martinez: WELL I THINK, I SPEAK FOR MANY PEOPLE IN THE CITY OF LOS ANGELES THAT ARE TROUBLED BY THE WAY WE HAVE BEEN RESPONDED TO PEACEFUL PROTEST. AND I UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENT VARIETY OF OPINIONS BUT I HAVE TO SPEAK TO MY CONSTITUENTS THE FOLKS THAT I TALK TO, WHO SAY WHY IS LAPD ACTING LIKE THAT AND IT'S A ERODE IN TRUST AND OUR SYSTEM. THE OTHER PART OF AB48 THAT SAYS, OFFICERS SHOULD MINIMIZE THE POSSIBLE INCIDENTAL IMPACTS OF THEIR USE OF CONNETIC IMPACT TO JOURNALIST WHEN WE SEE ON LIVE TELEVISION, A JOURNALIST SHOT BY ANOTHER, APPEARS TO BE A 40 MILLIMETER, I BELIEVE IT'S A MILLIMETER, HOW CAN WE SEE THAT WE'RE FOLLOWING A B48. >> HAPPY TO SHOW YOU THAT. IF YOU CARE TO SEE, I'M HAPPY TO SHOW YOU WHAT WE HAVE ON THAT. THERE IS MORE TO THAT STORY THAN WHAT YOU PRESENTED HERE. WE DO NOT TARGET MEDIA. WE DO NOT TARGET POLICE OFFICERS WHO ALSO GET HIT IN THAT ENVIRONMENT. IT'S OFTEN VERY CHAOTIC AND A LOST THINGS ARE GOING ON AT ONE. WE HAD 52 OFFICERS HURT IN JUNE. NOT A LOST TALK ABOUT THAT. THEY WERE THERE IN THAT ENVIRONMENT AND SOME WERE HIT WITH 40s AND SOME WITH 37 MS., NOT BECAUSE THEY WERE AIMED AT BUT BECAUSE THEY WERE IN THAT ENVIRONMENT. >> H. Soto-Martinez: SO YOU WHEN YOU, I'M SORRY WE DIDN'T HAVE THIS DISCUSSION IN COMMITTEE, MR. LEE. BUT AFTER, LOOKING MORE INTO IT AND FOLKS COMING INTO THIS VOTE WE LOOKED IT, AND I AS A PERSON, HAVE TO TAKE A POSITION AND SAY, DO I BELIEVE THAT THEY'RE USING THE 40 TEAR GAS IN THE CORRECT WAY. MY ANSWER IS NO. YOU KNOW, I DON'T THINK I'M GOING TO BE IN THE MAJORITY BUT WE HAVE TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION. >> I'M HAPPY TO HAVE THE CONVERSATION. >> H. Soto-Martinez: I DO NOT BELIEVE, IN THE INSTANCE THAT'S I'VE SEEN AND REPORTING AND THE LAWSUITS, NOW PILING UP, THAT WE'RE USING THESE TWO PIECES OF EQUIPMENT IN THE CORRECT WAY. >> OKAY. >> H. Soto-Martinez: I HOPE FOLKS CAN SEE IT THAT WAY AND VOTE YES IN AMENDMENT. AND LIMIT THE POLICE OFFICER ABILITY IN SITUATIONS WHEN THEY'RE CONFRONTED WITH SOMEBODY WITH A WEAPON, I MENTIONED ALL THE DIFFERENT TOOLS THAT THEY HAVE. THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE, IT'S NOT GOING TO GO AWAY. THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT IS GOING TO CONTINUE TO SNATCH PEOPLE OFF THE STREET AND WE'RE GOING TO HAVE TO MAKE A DECISION AS A CITY HOW WE INTERACT ABOUT PEOPLE WHO ARE RIGHTFULLY UPSET. >> WE, WE OVERSEE, WE MANAGE HUNDREDS OF PROTESTS A PEACEFUL PROTEST WHERE THIS IS NOT AN ISSUE. THE EXCEPTION IS WHEN WE HAVE VIOLENT DEMONSTRATIONS, VIOLENT ACTIONS, THAT'S WHERE WE TALK ABOUT THESE TOOLS AT ALL. THE VAS MAJORITY OF DEMONSTRATION THAT WE DEAL WITH ACROSS THE YEAR ARE PEACEFUL, WE MEET WITH THE ORGANIZERS, WE HAVE NO ISSUES. >> H. Soto-Martinez: I AGREE WITH THAT. MOST PROTEST ARE PEACEFUL. AND THE PROTEST THAT HAVE MARSHALS, PEOPLE FROM THE ORGANIZATION POLICING THEMSELVES, ALMOST 100 HAVE NO INCIDENT WHICH IS WHY I INTRODUCED A MOTION TO TRY TO CREATE THAT SYSTEM IN THE CITY. AND ALSO WHEN THERE IS COORDINATION BETWEEN THE ORGANIZERS OF THE MARCH AND LAPD, USUALLY 100 PERCENT, THERE IS NO INCIDENT. >> RIGHT. >> SO I AGREE THAT IT'S A VERY SMALL NUMBER OF INCIDENTS WHERE WHEN THIS HAPPENS. >> CORRECT. >> WHICH IS WHY I INTRODUCED THE OTHERS. AND IN THE ABSENCE OF HAVING A GRADED RESPONSE, LIKE NEW YORK AND BOSTON, OR ALTERNATIVE SYSTEM OF PEOPLE SELF MARSHALING THEMSELVES, WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. WE HAVE TO DO SOMETHING. AND THE THING WE'RE FOCUSED ON IS THE 40 MILL MAOELTERS. >> WE'RE HAPPY TO WORK WITH YOU ON ANYTHING ALONG THE LINE, WHERE WE HAVE TO DEVELOP RELATIONSHIPS WE'RE ALL IN ON THAT. WHAT WE'RE LOOK TO GO DO IS MAINTAIN THE TOOLS THAT WE NEED TO KEEP OUR PEOPLE SAFE AND PUBLIC SAFE. >> H. Soto-Martinez: THANK YOU. >> Council President: THANK YOU, MR. SOTO-MARTINEZ FOR THIS DISCUSSION. AND THANK YOU CHIEF FOR SHOWING UP. I JUST WANT TO ADD THIS, I WANT TO THANK MR. SOTO-MARTINEZ FOR HAVING THE COURAGE FOR RAISING THIS ISSUE AND STRUGGLE AROUND IT, SECOND I WANT TO THANK YOU FOR COMING. AND THEN I JUST WANT TO MAKE THIS REQUEST, BECAUSE I, I WANT I'M SUPPORTIVE OF OUR OFFICERS OF WORK WE DO, BUT THIS IS NOT AN AREA WHERE THERE ISN'T ROOM FOR GREAT IMPROVEMENT. SO YOU ININVITED MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL TO BE WITH THE POLICE ARE. I'VE BEEN WHERE TEAR GAS HAS BEEN SHOT AT ME AND SOMEBODY LOOKS ME AND I JUST DEESCALATE IT, IT JUST DOESN'T WASH. IT DOESN'T MATCH WHAT IS REALITY. AND THEN WHEN I CONFRONT THE DEPARTMENT AND SAY, WELL YOU ASKED ME TO DISBURSE, I WAS WALKING AWAY AND TEAR GAS CAME ON ME AND THE ANSWER WAS I COULD HAVE USED A LETHAL FORCE. I JUST WANT TO REQUEST THAT AS WE GO FORWARD, I'M SURE THIS WILL COME UP AGAIN, THAT WE WORK ON ONE, HOW TO COMMUNICATE WITH EACH OTHER BUT TWO, HAVE SOME ACKNOWLEDGMENT AND HUMILITY THAT WE CAN DO BETTER THAN WE HAVE DONE. >> WE ALWAYS CAN DO BETTER. AND I'M HAPPY WITH ANY MEMBER OF THE COUNCIL TO WORK TO SHOW WHAT TRAINING GOES INTO IT. THANK YOU MR. PRESIDENT. I APPRECIATE THAT. >> Council President: THANK YOU SO MUCH, CHIEF. ALL RIGHT, MADAM CLERK, WE HAVE AN AMENDMENT AND THEN AN ITEM. >> Clerk: YES, MR. PRESIDENT. SO THE FIRST VOTE WOULD BE ON AMENDMENT 24-A AND THAT IS MOTION SOTO-MARTINEZ-HERNANDEZ. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT, LET'S OPEN THE ROLL, CLOSE THE ROLL, TABULATE THE VOTE. >> Clerk: 5 AYES, 7 NOES. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT. >> Clerk: THAT AMENDMENT FAILS. SO THE NEXT. >> Council President: COUNCILMEMBER HERNANDEZ. >> E. Hernandez: I WOULD LIKE MY >> Clerk: THAT WOULD MAKE THE FINAL VOTE 6 YESES AND-- >> Council President: IT NEEDS LIKE WE NEED TO REVOTE. COUNCILMEMBER HUTT. >> H. Hutt: I WOULD LIKE TO BE RECORDED AS A NO. >> Council President: LET'S OPEN THE RECONSIDERATION ON THIS ITEM. CLOSE THE ROLL, TABULATE THE VOTE. >> Clerk: 6 AYES, 6 NO? >> >> Council President: TO RECONSIDER. >> Clerk: OKAY. LET'S, COULD COUNCIL JUST CLEAR THE VOTES AND JUST WRITE NOW, TO RECONSIDER THE VOTE FOR 24 A. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT, SO 24 A IN YOU'RE IN FAVOR OF MR. SOTO-MARTINEZ--IN FAVOR OF RECONSIDERING SO BE--. >> Y. Jurado: JUST RECORD THE NO-RECORD. >> Clerk: THANK YOU, COUNCILMEMBER. SO FOR THE RECORD, ITEM 24, THE FINAL VOTE IS 9 AYES AND 3 NOES. OKAY. NOW, THE NEXT FEW ITEMS THAT IS BEFORE US COUNCIL IS 29 AND 41. >> Council President: THANK YOU CHIEF. AND MR. CITY ATTORNEY. ALL RIGHT, MADAM CLERK, SORRY. >> Clerk: NEXT WOULD BE ITEMS 29 AND 43 AND THAT WAS CALLED SPECIAL BY COUNCILMEMBER JURADO FOR A SEPARATE VOTE. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT. LET'S OPEN THE ROLL, COUNCILMEMBER JURADO, CLOSE THE ROLL, TABULATE THE VOTE. >> Clerk: 10 AYES, 2 NOES. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT, WHAT'S NEXT? >> Clerk: NEXT WOULD BE ITEM 38 AND IS A SUBSTITUTE MOTION THAT REQUIRES TWO VOTE. THE FIRST QUESTION WHETHER TO SUBSTITUTE. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT, LET'S OPEN THE ROLL ON SUBSTITUTION, CLOSE THE ROLL, TABULATE THE VOTE. >> Clerk: 12 AYES. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT. >> Clerk: THE NEXT VOTE WOULD BE ON THE SUBSTITUTE MOTION, YAROSLAVSKY-HERNANDEZ. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT, LET'S OPEN THE ROLL, CLOSE THE ROLL, TABULATE THE VOTE. >> Clerk: 12 AYES. >> Clerk: AND FINALLY, THE LAST ITEM BEFORE COUNCIL FOR TODAY IS ITEM 45. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT, LET'S OPEN THE ROLL ON 45, CALLED SPECIAL BY RAMAN FOR QUESTIONS, IT DOES NOT LOOK LIKE SHE HAS QUESTIONS, CLOSE THE ROLL, TABULATE THE VOTE. >> Clerk: 12 AYES. >> Council President: ALL RIGHT,. >> Clerk: COUNCIL HAS MOTIONED FOR POSTED AND REFERRAL. >> Council President: BUDGET COMMITTEE WILL BE HELD AT 2:30, IT'S BEEN MOVED BACK. MR. LEE? >> J. Lee: FORTHWITH. >> Council President: 24 FORTHWITH. WITHOUT OBJECTION. >> T. McOsker: AND 45 FORTHWITH. >> Council President: 24 AND 45. >> THE ECONOMICS AND JOBS MEETI. >> Council President: OKAY. ANY OTHER ANNOUNCEMENT? OKAY, WE ASK EVERYBODY TO RISE FOR ADJOURNING MOTIONS. LOOKS LIKE THE SUN IS GOING DOWN ALREADY. ADJOURNING MOTION TO SEE MY LEFT? ADJOURNING MOTIONS TO MY RIGHT? ALL RIGHT, WE'RE ADJOURNED. SEE YOU IN THE MORNING. If you are outside, move to a clear area and stay away from anything that could fall on you like buildings, power lines or trees. If you are at the beach, immediately move to higher ground and follow tsunami evacuation signs. If you are driving, pull over to a clear location and stop. Avoid bridges, overpasses, and power lines. If you are in a wheelchair, lock your wheels. Bend over and cover your head. For more information, visit the Earthquake Country Alliance's website. Now onto wildfire tips. If you do not receive warning in advance of a wildfire, only collect your grab and go kit. If it's safe to do so. Follow evacuation orders and help others. If moving through a smoke filled area. Stay low to the ground. If you do receive a prepare to evacuate warning, gather your loved ones and pets. Ready your go bags. Charge your cell phones and plan your evacuation route. Lastly, let's talk about an active shooter situation. An active shooter is someone who is trying to kill and injure people. If you find yourself in such a situation, it's important to keep in mind the run, hide, fight survival principles. Your first option is to drop everything and run. If possible, try to help others escape, but do not attempt to move the wounded. Once you're safe, call 911. If you cannot escape, find the nearest hiding place. Lock the door or block the entry to your hiding place with tables, chairs, or whatever you can find. Make sure to silence your cell phone. If you are out of all other options, then fight. Try to incapacitate the shooter in whatever way possible. And remember, commit to your actions, your life depends on it. Once law enforcement arrives, remain calm. Follow their instructions and keep your hands free and visible at all times. Learn more about active shooter protocols at Run, hide, fight LA Org. It's not over just yet. The aftermath of an emergency is still a crucial time for you to remain alert and aware. Stay clear of hazards like downed power lines, damaged buildings, and avoid using gas until your gas line has been inspected. Cooperate fully with public safety officials and listen to local radio and TV stations for updated information. Avoid driving during this time and only use your vehicle if there is an evacuation order. Recovery time for different emergencies varies, but conditions commonly remain unstable. Two hours to two days after the emergency. If you have evacuated your home, don't reenter until officials say it's safe. If you're sheltering in place, it's important to assess and secure the area. Checking for gas and water leaks or broken wiring. If there is utility damage, turn them off at the source and check with your utility company before switching them on again. Do not shut off your gas valve unless you smell or hear gas leaking. A gas leak might smell like rotten eggs. To switch off your gas, you will most likely need to take a half turn on the main valve with a wrench. Report any gas leaks to your utility company. If a gas leak is suspected, do not operate any electrical switches. If water pipes are damaged, turn off the main water valve. Be sure not to flush the toilet until you know if the sewage lines are intact. If you have to shelter in place for a long time, assess your water sources. You can use water from Ice Cube's your plumbing as long as you turn off the shutoff valve before using or your switched off water heater. Do not drink water from the reservoir tank of your toilet pool or spa. Use this water for sanitary purposes only. You can also purify water with bleach with the right ratio. After adding bleach, stir the container and let it stand for 30 minutes before drinking. You now have some basic knowledge to safely respond during and after an emergency . Perfect. Hi, I'm Christina Rice, I am the senior librarian. Of the Los Angeles Public Library's photo collection. Our collection has over 3 million photos documenting life in Los Angeles from the 1850s to the present, which means there are a lot of photographers represented in our collection who produced these images. So today, I wanted to focus on one of them, and that's Carol Westwood. So Carol Westwood was a local photographer. She primarily did a lot of film work, so she would be on the sets of movies, but she also, you know, was a street photographer and loved the city she lived in. And captured it, you know, from downtown to the ocean. All of the photos she donated are digitized so you can go to Tesa Lapl.org to view the archive. And her photos kind of like run the gamut in terms of subject matter and style. So sometimes, you know, she would take very kind of gorgeous scenic photos of Los Angeles, be it the, the skyline or the ocean . She would sometimes go to the airport and shoot the planes taking off and landing. But she'd also, you know, just get into her car and just shoot the city from her car. And so here's one example of that. So it's Main Street. It's the skid row area, um, where you can actually see her car, and you can also see the side mirror. So that's how you can kind of identify and get a sense of where she was. So there are a lot of interesting photos like that. Um, you know, she would also sometimes go into buildings and this is, I think, a really fascinating photo. It's the Taft building in Hollywood where she had the vantage point to look into the building. And so we can kind of see people working. So it's very rear window this photo, you know, and then there are other iconic photos of the Hollywood sign. Here's just a really interesting rear view of the Broadway Hollywood sign. And I mentioned she shot on a number of different mediums. So we also have color photos. And so we have some slides and sometimes she'll just do just kind of whimsical things. So we have the Smith Brothers fish Chanty restaurant on La Cienega, the entrance of which is just a giant whale mouth. So this is something that no longer exists. Sadly, I never got to visit, but it's wonderful that we have this color, you know, visual documentation of it. Um she shot on Melrose a lot. One of the images that really resonates with me is this image of aardvarks. Odd arc. Um secondhand clothing store, vintage clothing store on Melrose. And this was a shop I would go to quite a bit in the late 80s and early 90s. My mom, when I was in high school, she would take me there, um, to do back to school shopping and so this is an image that, you know, just brings back a lot of memories. So I think carols is a collection that, you know, if you want to see the city kind of as it was in the 80s and 90s, it's there. Um, if you lived through it, I think you can go and it can generate a great deal of nostalgia. And I think it's just also interesting to kind of see a photographer's perspective . So, you know, we have all of these photos in our collection. And I think a lot of times people will search for specific things, which is great, but sometimes it's also, I think, nice to look like at a photographer's body of work to kind of get a sense of what resonated with them and how they were viewing the city. And I think it also, um, points out how important it is when you know, photos are posted online that the photographers need to be credited because, you know, it was their vision. They produced this. And in Carol's case, you know, she very consciously wanted to make sure that the world had access to her photos. So you know, the least we can do is honor her by crediting her. So again, if you want to visit Carol's archive, you can go to Tesa Lapl.org, where there's also over 135,000 photos in counting from our entire photo collection. Claiming for emergencies is smart, but does the family emergency plan include pets ? Did you know the average LA resident uses about 89 gallons of water each day? Challenge yourself to conserve, turning off the faucet when you brush saves up to ten gallons of water . Taking a five minute or less shower saves up to 15 gallons of water. Washing only full loads of laundry saves up to 30 gallons of water and fixing a running toilet can save up to 50 gallons of water. Keep it in mind all day, every day it's water. Conservation. The La way . Hello, I'm Abigail Marquez, the general manager of the City of Los Angeles Community Investment for families department. Welcome to Pathways to Prosperity, a show that features programs and resources aimed to empower Angelenos. Today we're at MacArthur Park, an iconic space that's recently received national attention but has long been a place of refuge, resilience and community for thousands of immigrants. Over the years. As a proud daughter of immigrants, I remember coming here as a child for concerts in the park, surrounded by music, family and the vibrant culture that defines this neighborhood. We're here today to discuss how to connect immigrant Angelenos with the resources and the support they need, especially in a time of heightened economic hardship and uncertainty. We're honored to be joined by Council Member Hernandez, who not only is a representative for district one, which is really what we're here in MacArthur Park today, but has been an incredible champion for Angelenos across our great city and has been even even more so, incredibly fierce and your advocacy to support our communities in this very difficult time that we're in, we're also joined by two incredible community advocates and leaders that are working every day to ensure that our communities stay informed and protected. We are joined today by Megan Ortiz, who is the executive director of a desk and , Megan, you're going to tell us what it means and what it does very soon. But you do operate five day labor centers in the city of Los Angeles, and we're also joined by Lena Silver, the director of policy and administrative advocacy at Neighborhood Legal Services. Welcome to the two of you. And thank you for joining us. So I'm going to turn it over first to the council member to ask our first question to our panel. Great. Thank you. And welcome so much to MacArthur Park Council District one, a park that not too long ago, several weeks ago, was overrun by federal immigration agents with their