GOOD AFTERNOON, EVERYONE. THE DECEMBER 10, 2024 MEETING AT THE SEATTLE CITY COUNCIL WILL COME TO ORDER. IT IS TO:02. I AM SARAH NELSON, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? >> [ ROLL CALL ] EIGHT PRESENT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> THERE ARE NO PRESENTATIONS TODAY. WE WILL GET RIGHT INTO THE HYBRID PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. HOW MANY PEOPLE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK, PLEASE? >> CURRENTLY HAVE SEVEN IN PERSON AND TWO ONLINE SIGNED UP. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE WILL START WITH THE IN PERSON. EVERYONE GETS TWO MINUTES. THANK YOU. >> SPEAKERS WILL BE CALLED IN THE ORDER IN WHICH THEY ARE REGISTERED. WILL ALTERNATE BETWEEN SETS OF IN PERSON SPEAKERS AND REMOTE SPEAKERS STARTING WITH IN PERSON SPEAKERS FIRST. SPEAKERS WILL HEAR A TIME WHEN 10 SECONDS ARE LEFT OF THEIR TIME. THE MIC WILL BE MUTED IF YOU DON'T AND YOUR COMMENTS WITHIN THE ALLOTTED TIME TO ALLOW US TO CALL ON THE NEXT SPEAKER. THANK YOU. >> FIRST IN PERSON SPEAKER IS. >> [ INAUDIBLE ] WE NEED A BREAK. WE NEED A BREAK IN THE CITY . WE NEED A BREAK FOR ALL OF OUR SOULS. THE CURSE HAS FOLLOWED ME ALL MY LIFE. HE KNOWS ABOUT IT. I WILL BEGIN TO EXPOSE HIS SECRET HERE IN THE CITY. EITHER HE CAN LEAVE , OR HE BE EXPOSED. I DON'T REALLY HAVE MUCH TO SAY. HE HAS AS MANY JOBS AS I HAVE I DON'T KNOW WHO I AM, BUT HE DOES . I JUST ASK THAT HE JUST RECUSE HIMSELF FROM THE NEXT ELECTION . PLEASE, SOMEONE TELL HIM FOR ME. HE KNOWS WHO I AM. IF NO ONE TOLD YOU TODAY THAT THEY LOVE YOU, I LOVE YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> GOOD COUNCIL MEMBERS. I AM WITH WASHINGTON FAMILY OWNED BUSINESS FOR MORE THAN 81 YEARS. I'M HERE TODAY, AS I HAVE BEEN FOR MANY WEEKS NOW, TO SEEK THE COUNCIL'S SUPPORT AND REQUESTING A MEETING WITH THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT. IN THE 71 DAYS SINCE THE INTERIM CHIEF TO THE VERIFIED ALARM RESPONSE POLICY, THE POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL ONLY RESPOND TO ALARMS THEY CONSIDER VERIFIED THROUGH AUDIO, VISUAL OR PANIC BUTTON EVIDENCE. WHILE WE UNDERSTAND THIS POLICY AIMS TO REDUCE RESPONSES TO FALSE ALARMS, IT WAS IMPLEMENTED WITHOUT CONSULTING SECURITY INDUSTRY IS EXPERT TO COULD OFFER VALUABLE SOLUTIONS TO THE UNDERLYING CONCERNS. THE CURRENT APPROACH TO ALARM VERIFICATION IS PROBLEMATIC. VERIFICATION REQUIREMENTS DEMONSTRATE A FUNDAMENTAL MISUNDERSTANDING OF HOW A MODERN SECURITY SYSTEM WORKS AND LEAVES THOUSANDS OF RESIDENTS ARE PROTECTED WITHOUT ENOUGH TIME TO MAKE CONSTANT UPGRADES TO THEIR SECURITY SYSTEMS. RATHER THAN CREATING SUCH RESTRICTIVE VERIFICATION CRITERIA, WEENIE DIALOGUE BETWEEN LAW ENFORCEMENT AND SECURITY EXPERTS OF ADDRESSING FALSE ALARMS. SECURITY SYSTEMS, WHEN PROPERLY UNDERSTOOD AND UTILIZED, CAN BE VIABLE TOOLS FOR LAW ENFORCEMENT. WE MECHANIZE THE OFFICER CHALLENGE SHORTAGE , HOWEVER, WE BELIEVE THIS WAS A CARELESS POLICY DECISION WITHOUT PROPER FORETHOUGHT. IT IS ALSO CLEAR THAT EVEN WITH PROPER EVIDENCE, POLICE RESPONSES ARE SPORADIC AND CAN OFTEN TAKE HOURS. SEATTLE 911 DATA SHOWS THAT FROM OCTOBER 1 THROUGH TODAY 9153 EMERGENCY POLICE DISPATCHERS WERE MARKED AS UNABLE TO LOCATE INCIDENT OR COMPLAINANT. DATA ALSO SHOWS THIS IS BECAUSE RESPONSE TIMES ARE SO DELAYED THE CALLERS ARE PERPETRATORS HAVE LEFT THE SCENE BY THE TIME OFFICERS ARRIVED. AGAIN, I'M REQUESTING A MEETING BETWEEN THE SEATTLE POLICE DEPARTMENT AND SECURITY INDUSTRY EXPERTS. THIS COLLABORATION CAN HELP DEVELOP MORE EFFECTIVE FOR THE -- PROTOCOLS WHILE SUPPORTING EFFICIENT USE OF RESOURCES. THANK YOU. >> NEXT SPEAKER. >> WHO IS NEXT? DO YOU KNOW THAT THE OPA DIRECTOR JUST RESIDE NEXT NOW I HEAR -- RESIGNED BACK --? NOW I HEAR TAMMY MORALES HAS RESIGNED. IT SEEMS ALL THE PEOPLE WHO WORK FOR THE PEOPLE, PUBLIC SERVANTS, AND UP RESIGNING, BECAUSE THEY CAN'T DEAL WITH THESE CONSERVATIVES ON THE COUNCIL. WHO IS NEXT? FIRE CHIEF SCOGGINS? SOME OF HIS MEN PLOTTED AGAINST HIM, TRY TO EMBARRASS HIM. BEFORE HE WAS MAYOR, HE HAD TO MORE OR LESS JUSTIFY CHIEF SCOGGINS PRESENT HERE. HE TOLD THE OPPOSITION THAT THE CHIEF WAS VETTED. HE IS FULLY QUALIFIED. HOW MANY MORE DECENT PEOPLE WILL RESIGN BECAUSE OF A CONSERVATIVE CITY COUNCIL ? AND ON DECEMBER 3 YOUR MANY FILIBUSTER TO ALLOW THE MEDIA TO LEAVE AND NOT RECORD THE COMMENTS, MY COMMENTS, AND OTHERS WERE NOT LOST ON ME. I NOTICED . THE MEDIA LEFT, AND THEN YOU ENGAGED IN A PROCLAMATION FOR A WELL DESERVING JOURNALIST, BUT THAT WAS NOT THE APPROPRIATE VENUE FOR IT . TO HOLD THE AUDIENCE AND THE COUNCIL HOSTAGE AND DISMISSED THE MEDIA, I THOUGHT, WAS TACKED TO LIST. I STILL HAVE TROUBLE IN MY HOUSE AND WITH THIS COP . THE MANAGER LEFT BECAUSE OF HIM. AND YES, I WILL SAY IT, I MISS . THEY WORKED FOR THE PEOPLE, NOT AGAINST US. >> NEXT SPEAKER. >> HOWDY, FOLKS. MY NAME IS GABRIEL JONES. I WOULD LIKE TO SAY WHAT I WOULD BE THE ABSOLUTE BEST NEXT CANDIDATE. I'M GOING TO GO LEFT TO RIGHT WITH SOME OF YOU. COUNCILMEMBER RINCK. AS SOMEONE WHO RIDES BIKES A LOT, I ALSO RIDE BIKES A. WE SEE HOW HORRIFIC THE CITY CAN BE WITH BIKING INFRASTRUCTURE BUT I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MORE GET BETTER. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE. YOU HAVE GONE VERY FAR FROM THE DAYS . YOU HAVE DONE A LOT OF POSITIVE THINGS. I AM EXCITED TO HELP THE CITY BETTER AND BETTER EVERY DAY. COUNCILMEMBER NELSON, IF YOU DO THIS, NOT A VERY BIG FAN OF FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS AND DEMOCRACY, I PROMISE IF YOU, I WILL NOT CLAP ON COUNCILMEMBER COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA, I KNOW AFTER THE HUGE FAILURE OF EDI FUNDING YOU BLAMED COUNCILMEMBER MORALES FOR DISINFORMATION. IF YOU CHOOSE ME, I WILL TAKE THE FALL FOR WHATEVER BAD POLICY WANT TO PASS. COUNCILMEMBER SAKA. IF YOU PICK ME, FOR THE PRICE OF A CASE OF BEER , WILL TAKE CARE OF THE LITTLE THAT MAKES YOUR HEART BEAT A LITTLE HARDER. SAVE THE CITY MILLIONS. COUNCILMEMBER MORALES, I KNOW YOU CAN'T PICK ME, BUT IF YOU COULD, WHAT I WOULD DO IS CONTINUE YOUR LONG HARD WORK YOU DO IN THE CITY TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE YOU WORK FOR MAKING AMAZING CHANGES, FIGHTING FOR AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND REALLY LISTENING TO THE PEOPLE. IN FOR THE WHOLE COUNSELOR, SINCE IT SEEMS TO BE A PREREQUISITE TO HAVE TO FULLY COUNCIL MEMBERS, IF YOU PICK ME TO BE YOUR NEXT COUNCILMEMBER, I WILL ALSO HELP YOU DOING THIS. PERSONALLY, MY PICK WILL BE NELSON. IF YOU WANT TO GO FOR CATTLE, UNDERSTANDABLE. GO FOR IT. THEY CAN ALSO VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. I CAN'T WAIT TO BEARDED NECK CITY COUNCILMEMBER. >> NEXT. >> GOOD AFTERNOON, COUNCIL. I WOULD LIKE TO INVITE THE CITY COUNCIL TO TAKE SOME SORT OF ACTION ON THE ISSUE I HAVE BEEN RESEARCHING WITH THE PUBLIC DOCUMENT REQUEST REGARDING THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE. JUST TO RECAP, THE CITY ATTORNEY PUT OUT A PRESS RELEASE SAYING , DISQUALIFYING JUDGE FROM HEARING CRIMINAL CASES AND SAYING SHE RULED THE DEFENDANT WAS IN COMPLIANCE AND DISMISSED THE CASE, EVEN THOUGH THE DEFENDANT REFUSED TO GET ON THE VAN TO REHAB BECAUSE THEY WORK IN A WHEELCHAIR. IN HER LEFT, THE DEFENDANT WAS SHOT IN THE LEG AND WAS TRYING TO BOARD THE TRANSPORT VAN AND WAS UNABLE TO, AND THE REHAB CENTER WOULD NOT ADMIT HER BECAUSE SHE HAD SCHEDULED FOR HER LEG. THE JUDGE DID NOT FIND SHE WAS IN COMPLIANCE. SHE DELAYED MAKING A DECISION. THE JUDGE DID NOT DISMISS THE CASE EITHER. PRETTY MUCH EVERY PART OF THAT PRESS RELEASE WAS FALSE WITH REGARDS TO THE JUDGE. NOW, THIS HAS BEEN GAINING TRACTION IN THE MEDIA SINCE LAST TIME I TALKED. THE STRANGER DID AN ARTICLE LAST FRIDAY ABOUT FALSE BASEMENTS IN THE MEMO. THE STRANGER AND I HAVE BOTH BENT OVER BACKWARD TO GIVE THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE EVERY OPPORTUNITY TO EXPLAIN. WE BOTH CONTACTED THEM. NATALIE, WHO WROTE THE MEMO, SHE WAS JUST HERE. I SAW HER, I LOOKED UP HER NAME. THAT IS A PICTURE OF HER. THAT IS THE PERSON. I ASKED HER ON THE WAY OUT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE RAISING QUESTIONS ABOUT THIS MEMO YOU ROPE IS THERE ANY EXPLANATION FOR HOW THE STATEMENTS CREPT INTO IT? SHE WAS LIKE, I REFUSE TO TALK ABOUT IT. WE HAVE GIVEN THEM A CHANCE. I THINK IT IS APPROPRIATE FOR AN INDIVIDUAL COUNCILMEMBER, OR PERHAPS, A COLLECTIVELY TO ISSUE SOME SORT OF STATEMENT CALLING ON THE CITY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED HERE. I UNDERSTAND THE CITY COUNCIL CANNOT HIRE AND FIRE THE CITY ATTORNEY, BUT IT IS PERFECTLY APPROPRIATE FOR ANY OF YOU WHO WANT TO INDIVIDUALLY TO PUT OUT A STATEMENT OR COLLECTIVELY ASK FOR A RESOLUTION CALLING ON THEM TO PROVIDE ANSWERS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. >> I JUST CAME DOWN TODAY TO SHOW MY SUPPORT FOR THE REAPPOINTMENT OF TONYA FOR THE DISTRICT 2 POSITION. I AM NOT SURE IF YOU STARTED THOSE CONSIDERATIONS ARE NOT. I WOULD QUICKLY LIKE TO SHARE A STORY. I ATTENDED SCHOOL IN THE CENTRAL DISTRICT BACK IN THE '80s. ONE OF MY BEST FRIENDS AND BREAK DANCERS , I SPENT A LOT OF NIGHTS AT HIS HOUSE SLEEPING ON HIS BEDROOM FLOOR. HE HAD GREAT PARENTS . UNCLE ELMER, AS I LIKED TO CALL HIM, WHICH IS ALWAYS AROUND AND ALWAYS A GREAT MENTOR. LATER IN LIFE I FOUND OUT THAT ELMER AND HIS BROTHER WERE COFOUNDERS OF THE BLACK PANTHER PARTY BACK IN THE '70s IN SEATTLE AND VERY ACTIVE IN THE COMMUNITY. AROUND 2013 WHEN THERE WAS AN OVERWHELMING AMOUNT OF YOUTH ON YOUTH MURDER IN THE CENTRAL DISTRICT IN THE SOUTH END, I WENT TO ELMER DIXON AND ASKED HIM IF HE COULD COME WITH ME TO TALK TO LARRY GOSSETT. WHILE WE WERE WAITING IN THE WAITING ROOM, ELMER SAID, YOU KNOW, LARRY IS THE ONLY POLITICIAN THAT I TRUST . AND THEN HE SAID, BUT THERE IS A YOUNG PERSON , TAMMY MORALES, IN THE SOUTH END THAT I REALLY LIKE. I HAVEN'T HAD A LOT OF INTERACTION WITH TAMMY, BUT I JUST WANT TO SAY THAT, JUST HAVING UNCLE ELMER 'S SUPPORT ALWAYS MADE ME THINK THAT YOU HAVE SOMETHING SPECIAL. I JUST WANTED TO SAY TODAY, THANK YOU FOR YOUR SERVICE . AGAIN, I WANT TO SAY, I FEEL LIKE TONYA IS CONNECTED WITH THE COMMUNITY AS WELL IN A DIFFERENT WAY THAN TAMMY, BUT SHE IS CONNECTED. SHE DOES HAVE SUPPORT. AGAIN, CONSIDER HER. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL MEMBERS. I AM HERE TO SPEAK ON BEHALF OF THE LIVING BUILDING AND THREE-BEDROOM PHOTOS BOTH BEFORE THE COUNCIL TODAY. WE APPRECIATED THE EXCELLENT LIBERATIONS IN THE LAND USE COMMITTEE. WE UNDERSTAND THAT AT HERE. THIS BILL DOES A GREAT THING. THE CITY COUNCIL HAS CLARIFIED THAT LIVING BUILDING PROJECTS CAN GET ADDITIONAL HEIGHT, AND ALSO IN THE DOWNTOWN PROJECT THAT PROVIDE 10 , THREE-BEDROOM FAMILY SIZE BUILDINGS CAN GET HEIGHT. THE INTERPRETATION OF THE CODE CREATED BY THE COUNCIL WAS ALWAYS THAT THOSE INCENTIVES COULD BE STACKED TOGETHER. WE REPRESENT A PROBLEM IN BELLTOWN THAT WAS THE FIRST TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF THAT. AND WENT THROUGH THE DESIGN PROCESS. GOT UNANIMOUSLY APPROVED BY THE DESIGN REVIEW BOARD. IT PROVIDES NOT ONLY 10, THREE-BEDROOM UNITS, BUT ALSO OVER 42 BEDROOM UNITS AND A SUSTAINABLE BUILDING THAT WILL BE CERTIFIED AS A LIVING BUILDING SUSTAINABLE BUILDING, BRINGING OVER 180 NEW FAMILIES INTO DOWNTOWN. THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE COPPER HAS A PLAN , WITH THE VISION OF MORE FAMILY SIZED UNITS IN THE DOWNTOWN. IT WILL BE PART OF THE ACTIVATION OF THE CITY. THERE WAS AN APPEAL THAT SAID, OKAY, CITY COUNCIL, YOU SHOULD HAVE SPOKEN MORE CLEARLY. THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION DOES EXACTLY THAT. CLARIFIES WHAT WAS ALWAYS THE INTENT WITH THIS PROJECT AND OTHER PROJECTS. WE SUPPORT THIS. WE THINK THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH WHAT DOWNTOWN SHOULD BE, WELCOMING TO EVERYONE, BEING A LEADER ON SUSTAINABILITY. THERE ARE A COUPLE OF AMENDMENT. WE HAD A GOOD CONVERSATION IN THE LAND USE COMMITTEE THAT WE HAVE SEEN GENERALLY IN SUPPORT OF THOSE AMENDMENT. WITH EXACTLY THE TYPE OF WORK AND STUDYING THE OPPORTUNITY TO STACK INCENTIVES CITYWIDE WOULD BE GREAT. WE WOULD ENCOURAGE THAT BEING PART OF THE PROGRAM. WE ALSO UNDERSTAND THAT THERE IS AN AMENDMENT FOR COUNCILMEMBER MOORE THAT WOULD SAY , YOU KNOW, YOU CAN EFFECTIVELY STACK THESE TWO AMENDMENTS. THAT IS THE INTENT OF THAT AMENDMENT, WE JUST RECEIVED IT. AGAIN, THAT IS CONSISTENT WITH THIS PROJECT THAT WAS APPROVED AND WOULD ALSO BE SUPPORT. WE ASKED FOR APPROVAL OF THIS AND TO BE ABLE TO WELCOME MORE FAMILIES IN SUSTAINABLE BUILDINGS DOWNTOWN. WE APPRECIATE THE DELIBERATION OF THOSE AMENDMENTS , AND WITH THOSE, WITH THAT THIS IS A GREAT STATE THAT STEP FORWARD FOR DOWNTOWN LIVABILITY. THANK YOU. >> NOW MOVING TO REMOTE PUBLIC COMMENTERS. >> OVER 200,000 SEATTLE VOTERS DEMAND ACTION ARE PROGRESSIVE REVENUE . OVER 300,000 SEATTLE RENTERS DEMAND PROTECTION ON EVICTIONS. OVER 400,000 SEATTLE WORKERS DEMAND LIVING WAGES AND SHOWS ON RETURN -- CHOICE ON RETURN TO OFFICE. SARAH NELSON AND RIVERA HAVE SPENT A YEAR DECRYING THE PREVIOUS COUNCILS . THE BELLYACHE ABOUT THE TIME AT OXFORD ECONOMICS PLACED US IN THE TOP FIVE ECONOMIC POWERHOUSE CITIES IN THE WORLD. ALSO, FOR 2023, GDP GROWTH WAS AT 6% , FAR OUTPACING OTHER REGIONS. NEW LEADERSHIP ON THIS COUNCIL IS NEEDED . A COUNCIL THAT WILL TAKE ACTION AGAINST THE CRIME OF BUSINESS GROUPS LOBBYING TO UNDERPAY SEATTLE WORKERS . THE CRIME OF RENTAL MANAGEMENT ALLUDING TO PRICE FIX AND TREAT EVICTIONS AS A BUSINESS MODEL. COUNCIL, TAKE ACTION ON PROGRESSIVE REVENUE. BUILD AFFORDABLE HOUSING. THE WORKFORCE IS ALSO YOUR SPENDING FORCE . LIVING WAGES TO EVERY WORKER IS MONEY SPENT BACK INTO LOCAL ECONOMIES. THANK YOU, AND HAVE A GOOD DAY. >> THANK YOU. THE NEXT REMOTE SPEAKER. >> GREETINGS, COUNCIL MEMBERS. -- >> THAT CONCLUDES PUBLIC COMMENTERS. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. WE HAVE NOW REACHED THE END OF THE PUBLIC COMMENT PERIOD. NOBODY ELSE HAS SIGNED UP. OKAY. WE WILL MOVE ON. MOVING ON TO THE INTRODUCTION AND REFERRAL CALENDAR. IF THERE ARE NO OBJECTIONS, THE INTRODUCTION -- INTRODUCTION AND REFERRAL CALENDAR IS. SEEING NONE, IT IS ADOPTED. IF THERE IS NO OBJECTION, THE AGENDA WILL BE ADOPTED. THE AGENDA IS ADOPTED. NOW WE WILL CONSIDER THE PROPOSED CONSENT CALENDAR . THERE ARE ONLY TWO ITEMS. THE MINUTES OF DECEMBER 3, 2024 AND THE PAYROLL BILL , COUNCIL BILL 120923. ARE THERE ANY ITEMS THAT COUNCIL MEMBERS WOULD LIKE TO REMOVE FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR? SEEING NONE . I MOVED TO ADOPT THE CONSENT CALENDAR. IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> THINK YOU. MOVED AND SECONDED TO ADOPT THE CONSENT CALENDAR. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? >> [ ROLL CALL ] NINE IN FAVOR AND NONE OPPOSE. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE CONSENT CALENDAR IS ADOPTED. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE AFFIX MY SIGNATURE TO THE MINUTES AND LEGISLATION ON THE CONSENT CALENDAR ON MY BEHALF? MOVING ON TO ITEM 1, WILL THE CLERK PLEASE READ IT INTO THE RECORD. >> [ ORDINANCE READ ] >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. I MOVED TO PASS COUNCIL BILL 120919. IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> THANK YOU. AS SPONSOR OF THE BILL, I WILL ADDRESS IT FIRST, AND THEN OPEN UP TO COUNCIL MEMBERS FOR QUESTIONS. AS YOU READ FROM THE CENTRAL STAFF MEMO , WHICH WAS SENT LAST FRIDAY, THERE ARE SUMMARIES OF THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION IN THE FOLLOWING. BASICALLY, THIS WOULD PROVIDE WAGE ADJUSTMENTS IN 2025 AND 2026 FOR CERTAIN NON-REPRESENTED EMPLOYEES IN CERTAIN STEP PROGRESSION JOB TITLES. FOR EXAMPLE, POSITIONS WITH SALARY INCREMENTS AWARDED IN DISCRETE STEPS WITH LITTLE DISCUSSION FROM THE APPOINTING AUTHORITY AS TO WHAT THOSE, WHAT THE INCREASE OR DECREASE IN WAGES WOULD BE. THE WAGE ADJUSTMENTS WOULD BE CONSISTENT WITH THOSE FOR REPRESENTED EMPLOYEES COVERED BY THE COALITION OF CITY UNIONS OR COALITION FOR SHORT. THEIR COLLECTIVE BARGAINING AGREEMENT, ORDINANCE 127005. JUST IN SPECIFIC, THE LEGISLATION WOULD PROVIDE A 4% WAGE INCREASE FOR MOST NON-REPRESENTED EMPLOYEES IN STEP PROGRESSION JOB TITLES FOR 2025, NUMBER PRESENTED EMPLOYS IN LIBRARY POSITIONS, AND/OR DISCRETIONARY PAID PROGRAMS ARE SPECIFICALLY EXCLUDED FROM THIS WAGE INCREASE. TWO, PROVIDE NEGOTIATED WAGE ADJUSTMENTS IN ADDITION TO THE 4% WAGE INCREASE FOR 13 UNREPRESENTED TITLES CONSISTENT WITH THE NEGOTIATED WAGE ADJUSTMENTS THAT IDENTICAL TITLES REPRESENTED IN THE COALITION WILL RECEIVE IN 2025. AND THREE, PROVIDE UP TO A 5% WAGE INCREASE FOR MOST NOT REPRESENTED EMPLOYEES IN STEP PROGRESSION JOB TITLES FOR 2026. THIS IS SIMILAR TO WHAT HAS BEEN -- THIS IS CONSISTENT WITH THE PRACTICE THAT CBO HAS DONE EVERY YEAR . WE ARE JUST SIMPLY FINISHING UP THE YEAR WITH THIS LEGISLATION. FIRST OF ALL, I WILL STOP THERE. ANY QUESTIONS? I SEE NO QUESTIONS. ALL RIGHT. I WAS GOING TO SAY, HISTORICALLY THE CITY HAS PROVIDED THE SAME BENEFITS AND OTHER CONDITIONS OF EMPLOYMENT AND OPPORTUNITIES FOR WAGE INCREASES FOR EMPLOYEES COALITIS AS NON-REPRESENTED EMPLOYEES. SO IF THERE ARE NO --, HEAD. I SEE YOUR HAND. >> THANK YOU. I DO HAVE A QUESTION. I THINK WE ALL RECEIVED AN EMAIL RELATING TO -- EXCUSE ME. THE WAGE COMPRESSION ISSUE WOULD BE RESOLVED WITH THE PENDING CITY COUNCIL BILL. THE PAY DISPARITY BEING LEFT FOR NON-REPRESENTED SUPERVISORS ARE REPRESENTATIVE STAFF . THAT LANGUAGE IS BEING TAKEN OUT. I AM CURIOUS ABOUT WHEN THE ISSUE IS GOING TO BE ADDRESSED. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU FOR ASKING THAT QUESTION. I DID RECEIVE AN EMAIL BACK IN RESPONSE. I WILL READ WHAT SHE SAYS. I'M WRITING WITH INFORMATION THAT RELATES TO AN EMAIL RECENTLY SENT TO COUNCIL MEMBERS EXPRESS THE CONCERNS ABOUT THE OMISSION OF WAGE ADJUSTMENTS FOR NOT REPRESENTED SHOP OPERATION SUPERVISORS/FLEE T DIVISION IN THE NON-REP WAGES ORDINANCE. ACCORDING TO THE EMAIL, THERE IS AN INVERSION ISSUE WAS SHOP OPERATION SUPERVISORS BEING COMPENSATED AT A LOWER RATE THAN THEIR SUBORDINATE AUTOMOTIVE CHIEF -- CREW CHIEFS DUE TO WAGE ADJUSTMENTS FOR THE SUBORDINATE EMPLOYEES IN THE COALITION CONTRACT. ALTHOUGH APPRISED OF THE ISSUE, DECIDED TO OMIT WAGE ADJUSTMENTS FOR THE SHOP OPERATIONS SUPERVISORS IN THE NON-REP WAGES ORDINANCE. I FOLLOWED UP WITH SDH ARE ON THE SITUATION AND LEARNED THE FOLLOWING. THE SEATTLE DEPARTMENT OF HUMAN RESOURCES COMPLETED A CITYWIDE ANALYSIS OF COMPRESSION AND INVERSION IMPACTS AND ACTIONS NECESSARY TO CORRECT FOR THOSE ISSUES. SDHR PLANS TO INTRODUCE SEPARATE LEGISLATION DURING THE FIRST QUARTER OF 2025 TO ADDRESS THE INVERSION ISSUES, INCLUDING THE SHOP OPERATIONS SUPERVISOR CLASSIFICATION. DUE TO THE UNIQUE AND SPECIALIZED SCOPE OF THE PROJECT, AS WELL AS THE PROJECT TIMELINE , SDHR DECIDED TO DRAFT SEPARATE LEGISLATION TO ADDRESS THE INVERSION ISSUES RATHER THAN INCLUDE THOSE CHANGES IN THE NON-REP WAGES ORDINANCE OR THE RETAIN -- ROUTINE QUARTERLY ORDINANCES. THE EFFECTIVE DATE IS TBD. CBO DOES NOT YET HAVE AVAILABLE INFORMATION ON EFFECTIVE DATE RETROACTIVITY, ET CETERA. THAT IS THE RESPONSE FROM CENTRAL STAFF. WE DO HAVE THE FOURTH QUARTER EMPLOYMENT ORDINANCE THIS COMING WEEK. THERE IS A POSSIBILITY -- I DON'T KNOW. IT IS POSSIBLE , BASED ON THIS, I DO NOT KNOW IF THIS IS POSSIBLE, BUT IF YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT PASSING THIS LEGISLATION BECAUSE OF THAT , PERHAPS, THAT IS AN ISSUE THAT CAN BE ADDRESSED AT A LATER DATE. I WILL URGE, THOUGH, THAT A LOT OF OTHER EMPLOYEES ARE IMPACTED BY THIS LEGISLATION , AND THE RECOMMENDATION IS THAT A GO FORWARD. GO AHEAD . THAT IS ALL THE INFORMATION I HAVE. THIS WAS LATEBREAKING CONCERN AND INFORMATION I GOT TODAY. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. APPRECIATE THAT. >> OKAY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? OKAY. SEEING NONE . WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL? >> [ ROLL CALL ] >> NINE IN FAVOR, NONE OPPOSE. >> THE BILL PASSES, AND THE CHAIR WILL SIGN AND. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE AFFIX MY SIGNATURE TO THE LEGISLATION ON MY BEHALF? WILL YOU PLEASE READ ITEM 2 INTO THE RECORD? >> [ ORDINANCE READ ] >> ALL RIGHT. I MOVED TO PASS COUNCIL BILL 120920. IS THERE A SECOND? >> SECOND. >> THANK YOU. IT HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED. AS SPONSOR OF THE BILL, I WILL ADDRESS IT FIRST, AND THEN OPEN IT UP FOR QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS. THIS LEGISLATION PROPOSES THE ADJUSTMENTS TO THE PAY STRUCTURES FOR VARIOUS DISCRETIONARY PAID PROGRAMS, INCLUDING THE ACCOUNTABILITY PAY FOR EXECUTIVES APEX PROGRAM, MANAGER AND STRATEGIC ADVISOR COMPENSATION PROGRAM, ELECTRIC UTILITY EXECUTIVE COMPENSATION PROGRAM, INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY PROFESSIONAL, INVESTMENT /DEBT DIRECTOR CONVERSATION PROGRAM, LEGISLATIVE DEPARTMENT AND BROADBAND , POWER MARKETING COMPENSATION PROGRAM, SEATTLE CITY LIGHT GENERAL MANAGER, IN THE CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER COMPENSATION PROGRAM, MAYORAL STAFF DISCRETIONARY PAY PROGRAM, ASSISTANT CITY ATTORNEY DISCRETIONARY PAY PROGRAM, SETTLE POLICE CHIEF COMPENSATION PROGRAM, MAGISTRATE PROGRAM, THE SEATTLE PUBLIC UTILITIES, GENERAL MANAGER AND CHIEF EXECUTIVE OFFICER COMPOSITION PROGRAM, SEATTLE INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY CHIEF TECHNOLOGY OFFICER COMPENSATION PROGRAM, AND THE SEATTLE FIRE CHIEF COMPENSATION PROGRAM. THE PROPOSED ADJUSTMENTS ARE CONSISTENT WITH THE PERCENTAGE INCREASES REFLECTED IN THE CITY'S NEGOTIATED AGREEMENT WITH THE COALITION OF CITY UNIONS. VARIOUS PAY PROGRAMS COLLECTIVELY KNOWN AS DISCRETIONARY PAY PROGRAMS PROVIDE FOR ANIMAL ORBAN -- BY ANNUAL REVIEW OF THE SALARY STRUCTURE STICK REMAIN COMPETITIVE IN THE LABOR MARKET. THESE DO NOT AUTOMATICALLY CREATE ADDITIONAL COSTS, HOWEVER, THE EXECUTIVE INCLUDED A PROPOSED FOR PATIENTS TO IMPLEMENT WAGE ADJUSTMENTS FOR EMPLOYEES COVERED BY THE PAZO LEGISLATION IN THE 2025-2026 PROPOSED BUDGET. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? OKAY. I'M NOT SEEING ANY QUESTIONS OR CONCERNS HERE. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON THE THE >> [ ROLL CALL ] >> -- NINE IN FAVOR, NONE OPPOSED. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE BILL PASSES, AND THE CHAIR WILL SIGN IT. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE AFFIX MY SIGNATURE TO THE LEGISLATION ON MY BEHALF? ALL RIGHT. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE READ ITEM 3 INTO THE RECORD? >> [ ORDINANCE READ ] >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCILMEMBER MORALES, AS CHAIR OF THE COMMITTEE, YOUR RECOGNIZE TO PROVIDE THE COMMITTEE REPORT. >> THANK YOU , COUNCIL PRESIDENT. THIS IS, AS WE HAVE HEARD FROM COMMENTERS ARE READY, ABOUT BUILDING PILOT PROGRAM. THE PROGRAM ITSELF IS INTENDED TO PROMOTE THE PUBLIC INTEREST BY ENCOURAGING THE DEVELOPMENT OF INNOVATIVE LIVING BUILDINGS, GREEN BUILDINGS, THAT CAN REDUCE ENVIRONMENTAL IMPACTS, TEST NEW TECHNOLOGIES AND CAN SERVE AS A MODEL FOR DEVELOPMENT THROUGHOUT THE REGION AND THE COUNTRY. THIS PARTICULAR LEGISLATION CLARIFIES THAT PROJECTS IN THE PILOT PROGRAM CAN USE HEIGHT BONUSES TO EXCEED 145 FEET , REGARDLESS OF LOT SIZE IN THE DOWNTOWN MIXED RESIDENTIAL ZONE. FOR CONTEXT, 145 FEET IS ABOUT 14 STORIES . BUT AT THE HEIGHT CURRENTLY ALLOWED IN DOWNTOWN MIXED RESIDENTIAL ZONES . AS WE HEARD EARLIER, THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT, FOR WHOM THIS AMENDMENT WOULD APPLY, WOULD CREATE 180 UNITS IN THE DOWNTOWN NEIGHBORHOOD. IT WOULD INCLUDE 42, TWO BEDROOM UNITS AND 10, THREE BEDROOM UNITS. IT WOULD ALSO PAY $2.4 MILLION INTO MHA. THERE HAVE BEEN SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT STACKING. WE HAVE AMENDMENT THAT WILL REFER TO THAT. WHAT I WILL SAY IS THAT THE STACKING OF PROGRAMMING -- PROGRAMS ALLOWS FOR THIS BUILDING, IN PARTICULAR, TO ADD ONE STORY BECAUSE THEY ARE INCLUDING THREE BEDROOM UNITS AND TWO STORIES BECAUSE THEY ARE MEETING THE LIVING BUILDING REQUIREMENTS. GIVEN THE NEED FOR MORE HOUSING IN THE CITY , AN ADDITIONAL THREE STORIES, WHICH FOR THIS PROJECT WOULD TOTAL 19, IS IN KEEPING WITH THE DOWNTOWN AREA AND APPROPRIATE FOR THE NEIGHBORHOOD. THE EXTRA FORCE WILL MAKE THIS PROJECT ONLY SLIGHTLY TALLER THAN MOST OF THE BUILDINGS SURROUNDING IT. AS CLERK MENTIONED, THE BILL DID PASS OUT OF COMMITTEE WITH FOUR IN FAVOR AND ONE ABSTENTION. I WILL PASS IT BACK TO COUNCIL PRESIDENT, BECAUSE I KNOW WE HAVE A COUPLE OF AMENDMENTS. >> FIRST, ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS TO THE BASE LEGISLATION? OKAY. WE HAVE AMENDMENT A AT THE TABLE, HOWEVER, THERE HAS BEEN A COMMENT FROM THE CLERK THAT THERE MIGHT BE A -- THIS MIGHT BE SUBSTANTIVE. THE GENERAL PROCEDURE IS TO ASK THAT THE RULES SO THAT WE CAN DISCUSS THIS, BECAUSE IT IS A SUBSTANTIVE AMENDMENT THAT CAME IN AFTER 12. >> THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF COMMENTS, A LOT OF ENGAGEMENTS FROM DIFFERENT CONSTITUENTS. OFTENTIMES, IN CONFLICT IN TERMS OF THEIR POSITIONS. THIS TOOK SOME TIME TO KIND OF CHECK INTO AND JUST TO LEARN MORE ABOUT WHAT WAS GOING ON AS IT RELATED TO SPECIFICALLY THE BELLTOWN PROJECT. BECAUSE OF THE SMALL LOT SIZE RULES THAT EXISTED WITHIN BELLTOWN ON THIS. AND SO, I JUST WANT TO SAY FIRST THAT I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THE GOALS OF THE BUILDING PILOT PROJECT. ALL THE THINGS THAT ARE PART OF IT, THE SUSTAINABILITY PIECES, USE OF RECYCLED MATERIALS, THE ENERGY REQUIREMENTS BEING NOT A DRAIN, BUT CONTRIBUTING ON THAT FRONT, RAINWATER, ALL THOSE DIFFERENT PIECES THAT MAKE IT SUSTAINABLE, BOTTOM LINE, REALLY IMPORTANT. I AM ALSO, AS WILL COME OUT WITH THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, I DO SUPPORT HAVING VARYING TYPES OF HOUSING AS WELL. ONE OF THE AREAS WE ARE SURE IS HOUSING FOR FAMILIES. IT IS NOT JUST IN OTHER AREAS OF DISTRICT 7 AND THE CITY, BUT ALSO SPECIFIC TO DOWNTOWN. I HAVE HEARD FROM RESIDENTS OF BELLTOWN THAT THERE IS A LACK OF FAMILY HOUSING. WHEN I SAY FAMILY, MULTIPLE BEDROOMS. WE ARE NOT TALKING ANYTHING LARGE , UNLESS YOU ARE IN A MASSIVE PENTHOUSE. BUT IT IS BASICALLY FOR THOSE PEOPLE, YOU KNOW, THE OPPORTUNITY TO LIVE IN THAT URBAN ENVIRONMENT, NOT JUST BELLTOWN, BUT THROUGHOUT THE GREATER DOWNTOWN. AND SO, ENGAGING ON THAT AND LOOKING INTO THE DETAILS , I AM ALSO MINDFUL THAT, YOU KNOW, CHANGE IS HARD ON PEOPLE TOO. THERE IS A LOT OF UNCERTAINTY SOMETIMES. YOU KNOW, MISUNDERSTANDINGS AND THE LIKE. WITH THAT, I WAS LOOKING TO, YOU KNOW, BRING AN OPPORTUNITY TO HIGHLIGHT THE STACKED INCENTIVES PIECE TO BASICALLY GET TO A POSITION IN A MORE GENERAL WAY. NOT SPECIFIC TO THE LIVABLE BUILDING PILOT PROJECT, BUT TO USE THIS EXAMPLE TO HIGHLIGHT THAT WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT IT IN TERMS OF BEING CLEAR, IN TERMS OF WHAT IS ALLOWED, AND THEN THERE IS THE PODIUM HEIGHT. ALL THESE THINGS THAT ARE BECOMING LIKE A PART-TIME LAND USE COMMITTEE MEMBER. THE PODIUM, THE STACK, THE SLOPES. WHERE THINGS ARE MEASURED FROM. ALL THESE DIFFERENT THINGS PLAY INTO THE NUMBERS. PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENT INTERPRETATIONS OF THIS. I THINK IN TERMS OF STACKED INCENTIVES, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO BE CLEAR ABOUT THIS , BECAUSE ALSO, PEOPLE SAY, CAN YOU JUST CONTINUE TO STACK ON TOP AND ON TOP? THAT CREATES CONCERN. INSTEAD OF , YOU KNOW, ADDING TO THAT CONCERN, ADDING TO THAT ANXIETY RELATED TO THESE DIFFERENT PIECES, THAT WE HAVE SOME FORETHOUGHT AND DELIBERATION RELATED TO STACK INCENTIVES. I WOULD ARGUE THAT YOU HAVE A BASE NUMBER, THEN PERHAPS MAYBE GO ABOVE THAT , BUT THIS WOULD BE LIKE DEPARTING FROM CODE. THIS WOULD OFFER AN OPPORTUNITY FOR THE CITY TO ENGAGE WITH THE DEVELOPER AND SAY, HEY, YOU COULD DO THIS, BUT YOU MAY BE ABLE TO DO MORE, BUT THERE IS PUBLIC GOOD THAT CAN COME FROM THAT. THAT IS THE MINDSET WE SHOULD BE LOOKING AT IN A MORE GENERAL WAY AS IT RESPECTS TO STACK INCENTIVES IN TERMS OF FOSTERING THOSE GOALS, LIKE WITH THE LIVABLE BUILDING PILOT PROJECT, BUT BEING CLEAR ABOUT WHAT THE LIMITS ARE, AND IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR AN EXCEPTION TO THE RULE, WHAT IS THE BENEFIT TO THE PUBLIC? WHAT IS THE BENEFIT TO THAT NEIGHBORHOOD AND THE CITY OVERALL? WITH THAT IN MIND, AND WITH THAT BACKGROUND, THIS AMENDMENT IS OFFERED IN TERMS OF HAVING OPCD ANALYZE THE STACKING OF HEIGHT INCENTIVES AND THEIR IMPACT IN VARIOUS ZONES WHERE APPLICABLE, INCLUDING, BUT NOT LIMITED TO THE DOWNTOWN REGIONAL CENTER, WHICH IN THIS CASE DOES INCLUDE BELLTOWN, AND PROVIDES FINDINGS AND RECOGNITIONS TO THE CHAIR OF THE LAND USE COMMITTEE BY THE DECEMBER 31, 2025 -- BY THE WAY, THERE WAS WOULD ALSO BE GOOD IN TERMS OF WHAT WE'RE DOING WITH COPPER HAS A PLAN. SO WITH THAT, COLLEAGUES, I ASKED FOR YOUR SUPPORT FOR THIS AMENDMENT. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS OR COMMENTS ON THE AMENDMENT? >> THANK YOU. THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE. WE DID HAVE A CONVERSATION . THIS IS A VERSION 2 BECAUSE I DO THINK THAT WHILE WE CAN ASK OPCD TO DO THIS ANALYSIS SO WE CAN ALL UNDERSTAND THE IMPACTS OF THE STACKING OPPORTUNITIES, I DIDN'T THINK THAT WAS AN APPROPRIATE THING TO INCLUDE IN THE SUPPLEMENTAL EIS, WHICH IS WHAT THE ORIGINAL VERSION DID. COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE DID REDRAFT WITH THIS NEW DRAFT . I AM HAPPY TO SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT. I WILL BE VOTING YES. >> OKAY. I AM PULLING UP THE LINK ON MY DESK. IF YOU HAVE A QUESTION OR,, USER HAND AND VOICE RIGHT NOW. NONE? OKAY. I APPRECIATE THIS LEGISLATION. I APPRECIATE THE AMENDMENT. IT IS GOOD TO UNDERSTAND WHEN WE ARE LITTERING ON INCENTIVES TO GET THE THINGS WE WANT. I THINK IT IS PRUDENT FOR US TO LOOK AT ALL THIS, ALL THE SCENARIOS THAT COULD BE COMING FORWARD AND BE AWARE OF THE IMPACTS TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD, ET CETERA. I UNDERSTAND . I WILL BE SUPPORTING THIS, AND I HAVE TO SAY THAT I AM VERY SUPPORTIVE OF THE LIVING BUILDING PROGRAM ITSELF. I REMEMBER WHEN THE LIVING BUILDING, WHEN THE BROOKS BUILDING, BROOKS RUNNING SHOES BUILDING WAS BEING BUILT. IT WAS BEING PLANNED AND DELIBERATED IN FREMONT. THERE WAS A LOT OF CONCERN ABOUT SOME OF THE INCENTIVES, BUT WE WERE REMOVING BARRIERS TO GET WHAT WE WANTED, SUCH AS VERY RIGOROUS ENVIRONMENTAL STANDARDS. SO I WILL SAY THAT WE ARE DOING DUE DILIGENCE IN UNDERSTANDING WITH STACKING OF INCENTIVES MEANS, AND I THINK IT IS ALSO GOOD TO ALWAYS RECOGNIZE THAT WE DO NEED TO REMOVE BARRIERS TO GET WHAT WE WANT . IN THIS CASE, LARGER UNITS TO FAMILIES. THAT IS ALL I WOULD SAY. ARE THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS? ALL RIGHT. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON AMENDMENT A? >> [ ROLL CALL ] MOVING MOVING THIS ORDINANCE WILL AUTOMATICALLY EXPIRE AT THE END OF DECEMBER 21, 2025. ALSO, THE SAME TIME AT WHICH THE REPORT ABOUT ANALYZING STACKING INCENTIVES IS REQUIRED TO BE SUBMITTED TO THE CHAIR OF LAND USE COMMITTEE. IT JUST GIVES US TIME TO MAKE THIS EXCEPTION SO THIS PROJECT CAN GO FORWARD. THERE ARE OTHER PROJECTS THAT DO WANT TO BE ABLE TO VEST, THEY HAVE THAT PERIOD OF TIME TO DO SO. IT DOESN'T TIE OUR HANDS BE ON THE COMP PLAN AND BEYOND THE REPORT OF THE LEGISLATION COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE HAS INTRODUCED. FOR THOSE REASONS, I ASKED FOR MY COLLEAGUES SUPPORT. >> COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. TO THE SPONSOR, APPRECIATE THE INTENT OF WHAT YOU ARE BRINGING HERE TODAY. I WILL UNFORTUNATELY NOT BE ABLE TO SUPPORT THE AMENDMENT. THIS GOES BACK TO HOW THE CONVERSATION ORIGINALLY CAME TO COUNCIL. WHAT I MEAN BY THAT IS, WHEN THE INCENTIVES WERE PASSED, STACKING WAS ASSUMED. THAT WAS AN ASSUMPTION MADE BY THE COUNCIL MEMBERS, THAT WAS AN ASSUMPTION MADE AND UNDERSTOOD BY MEMBER -- MANY MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. THE PROJECT BEFORE US HAD EVER SERIES USING THE APPEALS PROCESS TO FIND CLARITY WITH THAT. WHAT I KNEW IN SEPTEMBER IS THE SAME THING THAT I KNOW TODAY. WENDY'S HIS SENTENCES WERE ORIGINALLY PAST, THAT'S WHEN THESE INCENTIVES WERE ORIGINALLY PASSED, STACKING WAS ASSUMED. I BELIEVE FROM THE ORIGINAL INTENT THAT STOCKINGS WERE ASSUMED IS THE SAME THING I BELIEVE TODAY. IT IS LIKELY THE SAME THING I WILL BELIEVE ON JANUARY 2 OF 2025, EXCUSE ME, 2026. FOR THOSE REASONS, I WON'T BE SUPPORTING IT. COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, I 100% APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS. YOU CONNECTED IT TO RECEIVING YOUR REPORT. THAT IS ESSENTIAL TO GOOD PUBLIC POLICY. THANK YOU COUNCILMEMBER, MOORE. >> ARE THERE OTHER COMMENTS? JUST A MOMENT. COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. I HAVE A POINT OF CLARIFICATION. I UNDERSTOOD THE PILOT PROGRAM. IT IS A PILOT, AND I CAN'T RECALL NOW THE DATE. I DON'T SEE IT IN HERE. I AM CONFUSED AS TO THIS AMENDMENT. IT SOUNDS LIKE IT IS PUTTING AN END DATE. IS IT DIFFERENT THAN THE ORIGINAL DATE? APOLOGIES, AGAIN, I KNEW THERE WAS AN END DATE. WE TALKED ABOUT IT LAST WEEK A COMMITTEE, AND I NOW CANNOT REMEMBER. COUNCILMEMBER MORALES, IF COUNCIL PRESIDENT NELSON ALLOWS, YOU MAY KNOW. >> THE PILOT IS INTENDED TO END EITHER WHEN 20 PROJECTS ARE COMPLETE, AND I THINK THIS IS THE 15th PROJECT, OR IN 2030. IF WE DON'T PASS THIS, IT WOULD ALLOW FOR FIVE MORE YEARS OR FIVE MORE PROJECTS. >> THANK YOU FOR THAT. THAT IS WHAT I THOUGHT. I JUST DIDN'T REMEMBER THE 2030 PART. THANK YOU FOR THAT. I AM SUPPORTIVE OF THE LIVING BUILDING PROJECT . AS WE DISCUSSED LAST WEEK IN LAND USE COMMITTEE, IT ALREADY HAS A SUNSET DATE OF 2030. AND THEN, COUNCIL WOULD HAVE TO EITHER MAKE IT PERMANENT, AND MAKE CHANGES TO IT, GIVEN ALL OF THAT, I THINK -- AND THERE ARE FIVE PROJECTS LEFT THAT CAN BE DONE. THAT IS TO SAY , BEFORE 2030, FIVE PROJECTS MOVE FORWARD, THAT PROGRAM WOULD SUNSET THEN. GIVEN ALL OF THAT, COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, I APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THE LEGISLATION, BUT I WILL NOT SUPPORT THIS PARTICULAR AMENDMENT . I DO SUPPORT THE REPORTING AND MAKING SURE THAT WE ARE VERY MINDFUL OF THAT STACKING AND HOW THAT IMPACTS ALL OF THIS FOR THE REMAINDER OF THE FIVE PROJECTS. AND SO -- BUT YOU KNOW, AGAIN, REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BRINGING THIS FORWARD. THANK YOU. >> COUNCILMEMBER MORALES. >> I WILL JUST SAY THAT I REALLY APPRECIATE THE POSITION THAT WE ARE ALL IN , ESPECIALLY AS WE START TO MOVE INTO THESE BIGGER LAND USE CONVERSATIONS THAT WILL BE HAPPENING NEXT YEAR. THESE ARE NOT EASY CONVERSATIONS. YOU WILL ALL BE HEARING FROM YOUR CONSTITUENTS ABOUT WHAT THEY LIKE AND DON'T LIKE ABOUT WHAT IS BEING PROPOSED. I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THIS AMENDMENT. I DO THINK THAT IN THE CONTEXT OF A GLOBAL CITY THAT IS GROWING THAT NEEDS TO ACCOMMODATE MORE PEOPLE MOVING HERE, PARTICULARLY THE CLIMATE REFUGEES THAT WILL VERY LIKELY BECOMING IN THE NEXT FIVE OR 10 YEARS, AND GIVEN THE HOUSING CRISIS THAT WE KNOW WE HAVE BEEN IN AND WILL CONTINUE TO BE IN FOR SOME TIME, ALL OF THAT IS IMPORTANT CONTEXT TO WHAT SEEM LIKE VERY HYPER LOCAL DECISIONS. THE SMALL DECISIONS IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD AFFECT THE NEIGHBORHOOD OVER. AND SO, AS POLICYMAKERS, WE JUST NEED TO TAKE THAT HOLISTIC CITY PLANNING PERSPECTIVE TO ENSURE THAT WE CAN ACCOMMODATE FAMILIES AND SENIORS AND THE CURRENT SEATTLEITES WHO WERE HERE, AND ALL THE PEOPLE WHO WILL BE COMING HERE. THE TRUTH IS, IT JUST MAKES SENSE TO BUILD TALLER BUILDINGS IN THE URBAN CORE. EVEN IN DOWNTOWN RESIDENTIAL . THAT IS WHAT THIS PROJECT IS TRYING TO ACHIEVE. I ALSO WILL SAY THAT I THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR PEOPLE WHO CHOOSE TO LIVE DOWNTOWN TO REALIZE THAT THE CITY IS CHANGING. WE ARE GROWING, AND OUR NEED FOR HOUSING WILL CONTINUE TO GROW AND CONTINUE TO INCREASE AS WELL. I DO THINK IN ORDER TO CREATE A VIBRANT NEIGHBORHOOD DOWNTOWN, WE NEED MORE PEOPLE LIVING THERE. THIS PILOT PROJECT WOULD ALLOW FOUR MORE PROJECTS BEFORE SUNSETTING . THAT IS JUST NOT GOING TO HAPPEN IF WE ONLY ALLOW FOR ONE MORE YEAR OF THE PILOT. I DO THINK IT IS IMPORTANT FOR US TO ALLOW MORE BUILDING THAT CAN HOUSE OUR WORKERS, HOUSE OUR SENIORS, HOUSE OUR FAMILIES WITH CHILDREN , AND THAT IS WHAT THIS REMAINING TIME OF THIS PILOT PROJECT WOULD ALLOW US TO DO. I APPRECIATE THE WORK PUT INTO THIS, BUT I WILL NOT BE SUPPORTING THE AMENDMENT. THANK YOU. >> OUT THE MEMBER KETTLE, YOU HAVE NOT SPOKEN TO THIS AMENDMENT YET. GO AHEAD. >> QUESTIONS AS I THINK THROUGH THIS AND LISTENING. THIS CAME TO ME AS WE ARE SITTING HERE. TO COUNCILMEMBER MORALES'S., I AGREE. I THINK THAT WILL BE ADDRESSED IN THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. REALLY, WHAT THIS IS ABOUT IS THE ENVIRONMENTAL PIECES TO IT. I THINK THE HEIGHT AND ALL THOSE PIECES WILL BE SUPERSEDED BY THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN. IN MANY WAYS, I AM SURE, SOMEBODY SMART WHO WORKS IN THE BUSINESS CAN FIND A POINT THAT CONFLICTS WITH THAT A LITTLE BIT, BUT GENERALLY, THE COPPERHEADS THE PLAN IS REALLY GOING TO BE DEALING WITH THE HEIGHT. AS I SAID EARLIER, GETTING VARYING TYPES OF BUILDINGS TO ALLOW FOR FAMILY , OR MORE FAMILY TYPE OF HOMES AS WELL, IS REALLY IMPORTANT. THEN THE QUESTION IS, YOU KNOW, SUPPORTING THE ENVIRONMENTAL PIECES TO THIS . A QUESTION WOULD BE , WASN'T IT ALSO TOO GOING TO BE FOLDED INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN? MAYBE NOT AS COMPREHENSIVELY AS THE LIVING BUILDING PROJECT, BUT ELEMENTS OF THE LIVING BUILDING PROJECT GOING TO BE FOLDED INTO THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ? I DON'T KNOW ON THE TOP OF MY HEAD THE DETAILS OF THAT. THAT GOES TO WHETHER TO SUPPORT THIS. IF IT SINKS IN 2025 AND THE PASSING OF THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN, THEN I THINK WE ARE GOOD TO GO. IT IS KIND OF A STATEMENT AND A QUESTION. IT DOESN'T SIT ON THE LAND USE COMMITTEE AND DOESN'T HAVE A SENSE FULLY RELATED TO COMPREHENSIVE PLAN AND ENVIRONMENTALLY SOUND OR SMART CONSTRUCTION. >> IT IS SOMETIMES DIFFICULT, BECAUSE IT IS HARD TO KNOW IF YOU'RE LOOKING AT ME OR THE SPONSOR OF THE LEGISLATION. I WILL ASK -- >> I USUALLY END UP LOOKING AT THE CHAIR. COUNCILMEMBER MORALES, IS THERE ANYTHING IN TERMS OF THE COMP PLAN WHICH ADDRESSES THE HEIGHT ISSUES AND ALL THAT? AND THEN, THE ENVIRONMENTAL ASPECTS OF THE LIVING BUILDING, DO YOU ANTICIPATE THAT TO BE PART OF THE COPPERHEADS A PLAN, WHICH THEN WOULD MAKE THE DATE CHANGE NOT AS RELEVANT ? >> I THINK THE PURPOSE OF THE PILOT PROGRAM IS TO START TO UNDERSTAND HOW WE ALLOW FOR THIS KIND OF MORE GREEN BUILDING TO TAKE PLACE. WHAT KIND OF INCENTIVES ARE NEEDED, YOU KNOW, THE COSTS SO WE CAN DO MORE OF THAT. AS FAR AS THE COMPREHENSIVE PLAN ITSELF, THERE IS A CLIMATE ELEMENT INCLUDED IN THAT. THAT IS REALLY MORE -- I THINK IT IS LESS ABOUT BUILDING CODE AND MORE ABOUT HOW WE ADDRESS GREENHOUSE GAS EMISSIONS. HOW WE ENSURE WE ARE ENCOURAGING MORE TRANSIT RATHER THAN SINGLE VEHICLE OCCUPANCY. OF COURSE, ALL OF THOSE THINGS WILL OVERLAP, BUT WHETHER THERE IS A SPECIFIC ELEMENT OR SPECIFIC PIECE OF THE COMP PLAN THAT RELATES TO GREEN BUILDING, AT THIS POINT, NOT ABOUT THIS PARTICULAR PROJECT. PILOT PROJECT. >> COUNCILMEMBER RIVERA. >> THANK YOU. I DID WANT TO FOLLOW WHAT MY COMMENT EARLIER WITH THE FACT THAT, SINCE WE ARE ASKING FOR THIS REPORT BY THE END OF 2025 IN TERMS OF THE STACKING AND ITS IMPACT, AT THAT TIME WE COULD DECIDE TO MAKE CHANGES TO THIS LEGISLATION BASED ON THAT REPORT, WHICH IS ANOTHER REASON WHY I VERY MUCH APPRECIATE YOU, COUNCILMEMBER MOORE, BRINGING THIS FORWARD AND THE SPIRIT IN WHICH YOU BROUGHT IT. I LOOK FORWARD TO GETTING THE REPORT AT THE END OF NEXT YEAR AND HAVING FOLLOW-UP CONVERSATION AS TO WHETHER WE NEED TO MAKE TWEAKS AT THAT TIME BASED ON WHAT WE LEARNED. I DID WANT TO SAY THAT. THANK YOU. >> ALL I WILL SAY IS THAT THIS IS GOT TO BE ONE OF THE LONGEST PILOT PROGRAMS THAT I HAVE EVER HEARD OF. I REMEMBER IT WAS CALLED A PILOT PROGRAM WHEN THE BROOKS BUILDING WAS BEING DELIBERATED. IT WAS A PILOT PROGRAM WHEN THE BUILDING WAS BUILT AND CELEBRATED ON CAPITOL HILL. AND SO, I AM NOT ENMESHED IN THE DETAILS OF HOW , YOU KNOW, HOW MANY MORE PROJECTS WOULD BE BUILT. I THINK YOU SAID FIVE MORE. HERE'S THE THING. I AM GOING TO DECLINE FROM SUPPORTING THIS AMENDMENT JUST BECAUSE I FEEL THAT WE DO NEED TO SEE THE -- POSSIBLY WHAT IS NEXT FOR THE LIVING BUILDING PROGRAM FOR PEOPLE WHO THAT MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN IN THE -- OR LISTEN TO THE LAND USE COMMITTEE MEETINGS . THE LIVING BUILDING STANDARDS GO ABOVE AND BEYOND THE LEED STANDARDS AND THEY GO SO FAR AS TO ACTUALLY TRY TO ENCOURAGE MORE MINDFUL BEHAVIOR, LIKE TAKING STAIRS INSTEAD OF OF THE THINGS. MY POINT IS SIMPLY THAT THIS IS -- I AM LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING THE CULMINATION OF THIS PILOT AND BEING ABLE TO REALLY DISCUSS WHAT HAPPENS NEXT TO IT. I AM THINKING THAT THIS AMENDMENT WILL CURTAIL THAT KIND OF ANALYSIS WHEN IT IS DUE, WHEN THE TARGETS ARE ALREADY MET. THAT IS HOW -- THAT EXPLAINS HOW I AM GOING TO VOTE ON THIS. IF THERE ANY OTHER COMMENTS, COUNCILMEMBER KETTLE. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. THIS IS NOT STANDARD FOR ME, OBVIOUSLY. I USUALLY DO THE COORDINATION AND SO FORTH BEFOREHAND AND WORK THROUGH THE DIFFERENT PIECES. BUT I REALLY APPRECIATE THE AMENDMENT , AND I AM THINKING ABOUT MY CONSTITUENTS AS WELL. I'M ALSO THINKING OF THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THE EVERGREEN STATE AND THE EMERALD CITY, WHICH BRINGS HIS OWN QUESTIONS RELATED TO TREE CANOPY . I KNOW THE COMMUNITY OUT THERE REALLY CARES ABOUT THAT. IT ALSO GOES TO HAVING THE SUPER GREEN BUILDINGS THAT YOU MENTIONED. YOU KNOW, THAT IS SOMETHING THAT MAKE SEATTLE UNIQUE TOO AND A SENSE OF BEING ENVIRONMENTALLY FORWARD. I DO RECOGNIZE THE CHALLENGES PRESENTED IN THIS CASE, BUT I AM ALSO NOTING THE CHANGES OF THE COMP PLAN. BUT THEN WE STILL HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO STRETCH THE LIMITS AND WHAT CAN BE DONE, LIKE THE FOUNDATION BUILDING DID IN TERMS OF MOVING FORWARD AND TO REALLY , YOU KNOW, JUSTIFY THE TITLE EMERALD CITY IN THAT CONTEXT EVEN AS THE EVERGREEN TREES CONTINUE TO GET TOPS DOWN. >> IF THERE ARE NO OTHER COMMENTS, WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL -- >> THERE IS ONE. >> GO AHEAD. >> I APPRECIATE ALL THE COMMENTS. I JUST WANTED, FOR THE RECORD, TO CLARIFY THAT MY AMENDMENT WOULD NOT COUNSEL THE LIVING BUILDING PILOT AFTER ONE YEAR. WHAT WE'RE VOTING ON, THE UNDERLYING BILL IS AN EXEMPTION, AN EXCEPTION TO THE LIVING BUILDING PILOT. WE ARE SAYING, BECAUSE -- AS I UNDERSTAND IT, WHEN THAT CAME ABOUT, WE SAID -- WE SET THE HEIGHT OF 145 FEET TO GO ABOVE FOR ANY LOT SIZE UNDER 19,000 SQUARE FEET . THIS PROJECT IS WORTHWHILE AS IT IS. IT IS SEEKING TO GO OVER THAT. THEY ARE SEEKING AN EXEMPTION, WHICH WAS DENIED BY THE HEARING EXAMINER'S. NOW WE ARE BACK HERE LEGISLATING A SOLUTION. THAT SOLUTION IS TO ALLOW THEM TO GO HIGH AND TO STACK. TO COUNCILMEMBER STRAUSS AT THIS POINT, I APPRECIATE THAT. I DON'T KNOW, MAYBE YOU CAN CORRECT ME ON THIS. WHEN THE ASSUMPTION WAS THAT STACKING WOULD BE PART OF THIS, I AM ASSUMING THE ASSUMPTION WAS IT WAS STACKING ON A MINIMUM SQUARE FEET OF 19,000 FEET. ANYWAY, THAT IS NEITHER HERE NOR THERE. JUST TO BE CLEAR, MY AMENDMENT IS SIMPLY PUTTING AN EXPIRATION DATE TO THIS EXEMPTION TO THE LIVING BUILDING PROJECT FOR ONE YEAR. NOT TO THE LIVING BUILDING PILOT ITSELF. JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR FOR THE RECORD. THANK YOU. >> ALL RIGHT. I AM NOT SEEING ANY OF HER HANDS RAISED. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON THIS AMENDMENT? >> [ ROLL CALL ] TWO IN FAVOR, SEVEN OPPOSED. >> THANK YOU VERY MOTION FAILS. AMENDMENT C IS NOT ADOPTED. ALL RIGHT. ARE THERE FURTHER COMMENT ON THE BILL AS AMENDED? I AM NOT SEEING ANY FURTHER COMMENTS. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE CALL THE ROLL ON COUNCIL BILL 120833 AS AMENDED? >> EIGHT IN FAVOR, ONE OPPOSED. >> THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THE LEGISLATION PASSES . THE CHAIR WILL SIGN IT. WILL THE CLERK PLEASE AFFIX MY SIGNATURE TO THE LEGISLATION ON MY BEHALF? OKAY. IT LOOKS LIKE WE ARE NOW AT THE END OF THE AGENDA. THERE WERE NO ITEMS REMOVED FROM THE CONSENT CALENDAR, AND THERE'S NOT A RESOLUTION FOR INTRODUCTION AND ADOPTION TODAY. ARE THERE ANY ITEMS FROM MY COLLEAGUES TO DISCUSS ? SEEING NONE. THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. IT IS 3:03. THANK YOU, EVERYONE.