GLIA GOOD MORNING. NURSE, MARCH 5, 2026 TIME IS 9:01 A.M. COMMITTEE ON ZONING AND PLANNING MEETING PLEASE COME TO ORDER I WOULD LIKE WELCOME COMMITTEE MEMBERS, COUNCILMEMBER CORDERO, COUNCILMEMBER OKIMOTO AND COUNCILMEMBER TUPOLA. I UNDERSTAND VICE CH CHAIR WATES SHOULD BE HERE SHORTLY. REMOTE VERB SAL TESTIMONY IS BEING PYRAMID REGULAR IN-PERSON MEETING AND NOT A IT REMOTE MEETING BY INTERACTIVE CONFERENCE TECHNOLOGY. UNDER HRS SECTION 92-3.7. THEREFORE, MEETING WILL CONTINUE WITH NOTWITHSTANDING LOT OF AUDIO-VIDEO COMMUNICATION WITH REMOTE TESTIFIERS. LOSS OF PUBLIC BROADCAST OF THE MEETINGMENT MEMBERS PUBLIC WILL BE ALLOW O TO PROVIDE VERBAL TESTIMONY ALL ITEMMEN AGENDA WHEN EACH ITEM IS TAKEN UP. IN PERSON AND REMOTELY VIA VOID CONFERENCE OR PHONE. BEFORE TESTIFYING EACH PERSON SHALL STATE THEIR THAT I AM FOR THE RECORD. EACH SPEAKER MAY NOT HAVE ANYONE E READ THEIR STATEMENT. LIMITED ONE-MINUTE PRESENTATION PER ITEM MANY PERSONS REGISTERED TO TESTIFY IN PERSON WILL BE CALLED UPON FIRST. PERSONS DID NOT REGISTER WILL BE GIVEN AN OPPORTUNITY TO OFFER TESTIMONY AFTER THE REGISTERED TESTIFIERS. ONCE IN-PERSON TESTIMONY HAS CONCLUDED, I WILL PROCEED TO THE REMOTE TESTIFIERS. WHEN I CALL YOUR NAME, OR THE LAST THREE DIGITS OF YOUR PHONE NUMBER, PLEASE FOLLOW PROMPTS TO UNMUTE. AS BOTH ENGLISH AND HAWAIIAN LANGUAGES STATE OF I WOULD. ARTICLE 15 OF SECTION 4 OF A WHITE STATE CONSTITUTION TANDEN SECTION 113 OF THE HAWAII REVISED STATUTES, MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC MAY TESTIFY IN EITHER LANGUAGE. FOR VERBEL A TESTIMONIES OFFERED IN OLELO I WOULD, ADDITIONAL TIME AS MAY BE NECESSARY WILL BE ALLOWED -- LITTLE HAWAII FOR THE TESTIFIER TO PROVIDE ENGLISH LATRANSLATION. OF THEIR TESTIMONY. ADDRESS EMAIL ADDRESS AND HE PHONE NUMBER AVAILABLE TO PUBLIC IN THE POSTED AGENDA. COURTESY PLEASE TURN OFF OR SILENCE ALL CELL PHONES FOR THE DURATION OF THIS MEETING. THANK YOU. INFORMATION, ITEM NUMBER 4 BILL 70, 2026, PAGE 5 CANCELED WILL NOT BE CONSIDERED. MOVING TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 1 FOR ACTION. THE COMMITTEE WILL REVIEW AND EVALUATE THE PLANNING COMMISSION AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE COUNCIL ON WHETHER THE CHARTER PROVISION(S) ESTABLISHING THE COMMISSION SHOULD BE RETAINED, AMENDED, OR REPEALED. WE WILL BE REVIEWING AND PLANNINGER PLANNING COMMISSION PURSUANT TO ORPHANS 17-44. ROH CHAPTER 3, ARTICLE 15. MANDATES PERIODIC REVIEW AND EVALUATION OF CERTAIN CITY BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS PURPOSE OF THE REVIEW AND EVALUATION DETERMINE WHETHER THE PROVISION CITY CHARTER ESTABLISHING COMMISSION SHOULD BE RETAINED, AMENDED OR REPEALED. COMMISSION ESTABLISHED BY CHARTER SECTION 6-1505. AND 6-1006. FOLLOWING POWERS DUTIES AND FUNCTIONS. FIRST, THEY ARE ADVISE THE MAYOR OF THE COUNCIL DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND PERMITTING ON MATTERS CONCERNING PLANNING PROGRAM. SECOND, BOTH PUBLIC HEARING AND MAKE RECOMMENDATIONS ON ALL PROMOTE PROEMS TO ADOPT OR PRO PROPOSALS. THIRD, PERFORM OTHER RETAIL DUTIES AS MAY BE NECESSARY TO FULFILL RESPONSIBILITIES. UNDER THE CHARTER OR AS MAY BE ASSIGNED BUT MAYOR OR COUNCIL. COMMISSION CONSISTS NINE MEMBERS. A APPOINTMENT BID THE MAYOR, CONFIRMED BY COUNCIL TO STAGGERED FIVE YEAR TERMS. AT LEAST ONE COMMISSION MEMBER MUST HAVE SUBSTANTIAL EXPERIENCE OR EXPERTISE ONE OF THE FOLLOWING CATEGORIES WITH DISCIPLINES. EACH MUST BE REPRESENTED BY DIFFERENT MEMBER. AND ALL CATEGORIES MUST BE EMINENT ARID ON THE COMMI COMMISSION. FIRST, RETIED. FIRST NATIVE HAWAIIAN TRADITIONAL CUSTOMARY PRAC PRACTICES NATIVE HAWAIIAN LAW OR TRADITIONAL HAWAIIAN LAND USES, SECOND, SOMEONE WITH LAND USE PLANNING, POLICIES AND PRINCIPLES. THIRD, SOMEONE WITH LAND DEVELOPMENT AND CONSTRUCTION BACKGROUND. AND FOURTH, SOMEONE WITH CLIMATE CHANGE AND SEA LEVEL RISE CAUSE EFFECTS AND SOLUTIONS OR ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AND PRESERVATION. BY DEPARTMENTAL COMMUNICATION 57, 2026, DATED JANUARY 30, 2026, COMMISSION SUBMITTED TO THE COUNCIL AND UPDATED REPORT ON ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND ACTIVITIES. COMMISSION RECOMMENDED THAT CHARTER PROVISIONSES ESTA ESTABLISHING COMMISSION TO BE RETAINED WITHOUT CHANGE BUT RECOMMENDED THAT ERRONEOUS PROVISION IN ROH SECTION 2 22-3.5 BE AMEND TO PROVIDE DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND PERMITTING, NOT THE COMMI COMMISSION, IS RESPONSIBLE FOR ADOPTING RULES GOVERNING SU SUBDIVISION OR CONSOLIDATION OF LAND. I WILL TAKE THE COMMISSION SUGGESTIONS UNDER CONSIDERATION. I NOTE THAT ANY CHANGES TO THE SOMEBODY DIVISION ORDINANCE REQUIRE PROCESSING BY DEPARTMENT OFFER PLANNING AND PERMITTING, BUT NOT BY THE PLATHEPLANNING COMMISSION. I WILL BE RECOMMENDING THAT ACTION ON THIS MATTER BE POSTPONED NOEL THE NEXT IT COMMITTEE MEETING ON APRIL 2. IN THE MEANTIME, I WILL PREPARE A DRAFT COMMITTEE REPORT WITH RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CONSIDERATION AT THAT MEETING. JOINING US IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBERS IS APANA A MEATOGA. CHAIR PLANNING COMMISSION. SUMMARIZED COMMISSION'S REPORTS AND PROVIDES SOME IS COMMENTS. >>Testifier: IS THE CHAIR OR ANYBODY FROM THE PLANNING COMMISSION HERE? FROM ADMINISTRATION? CAN I HAVE SOMEONE REPR REPRESENTING THE ADMINISTRATION? DAWN APUNA DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND PERMITTING. >>Testifier: GOOD MORNING CHAIR MEMBERS. DPP. DID YOU WANT ME TO COMMENT ON THE REPORT? >>Chair Kia'aina: YES. >>Testifier: SURE. I THINK IF THIS IS A ROUTINE REPORT THAT PLANNING COMMISSION PROVIDES TO THE COUNCIL. IT GIVES IDEA OF THE LAST FEW YEARS SOME OF THE DOCKETS THEY'VE BEEN LOOKING AT. I THINK THERE IS, ONE CONCERN ABOUT THE STAFFING FROM THE CORPORATION COUNSEL AND THE SECRETARY. AND WE HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT AT THAT AS FAR AS SECRETARY LOOKING AT INCREASING HER PAY, BUT SHE IS KIND OF CAPPED OUT BASED ON HER CURRENT DUTIES. SO WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT. BUT ALSO, MAYBE PROVIDING WITH HER OFFICE ASSISTANT TO HELP TAKE SOME OF THAT LOAD OFF. OTHER THAN THAT THAT, ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE REPORT, ITSELF,. >>Chair Kia'aina: I DO HAVE QUESTION ON THE POSITIONS. SO ARE YOU ABLE TO USE CURRENT VACANCIES TO SECURE ANY ADDITIONAL STAFFING THAT YOU NEED? OR WILL YOU NEED TO FOR THE COUNCIL TO ADD ANY NEW POSITIONS IN UPCOMING BUDGETARY CYCLE? >>Testifier:EL I WOULD HAVE TO GO BACK AND SEE IF THAT IS SOMETHING THAT WE WOULD NEED TO ADD. LIKE AN OFFICE ASSISTANT. YEAH. >>Chair Kia'aina: IT SEPARATE FROM THE OFFICE ASSISTANT, IS THERE ANY OTHER TYPE OF RESOURCES THAT COULD STRENGTHEN THE CAPACITY LIKE THE CORPORATION COUNSEL? WASN'T THERE A COMMENT ABOUT THE FACT THAT CORPORATION COUNSEL HAS TO DO SO MANY OTHER THINGS? >>Testifier: YEAH. I WOULD DEFER TO CORPORATION COUNSEL FOR HOW THEY WOULD MANAGE THEORY WORKLOAD FOR THEIR DEPUTIES. >>Chair Kia'aina: CAN YOU ASK YOU OR CORPORATION COUNSEL BETTER FIT, PLANNING COMMISSION, SIGNIFICANT COMMISSION, IS IT BETTER TO HAVE YOUR OWN LEGAL COUNSEL FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION? EITHER ONE OF YOU CAN ANSWER. >>Testifier: DUANE PANG DEPUTY CORPORATION COUNSEL. WE HAVE DEDICATED DE DEPUTY FOR THE PLANNING COMMISSION. >>Chair Kia'aina: WHAT WILL THEIR OTHER DUTIES? >>Testifier: LIKE ALL DEP DEPUTYTIES, AMOUNT DO DUTIES WE DON'T THINK THAT THE PLANNING COMMISSION, HAS SUFFICIENT RESOURCES OR REAR RESPONSIBILITIES SO THAT WE CAN JUST DEDICATE ONE DEPUTY. >>Chair Kia'aina: CAN YOU AT LEAST LOOK AT THE CONCERNS EXPRESSED BY THE PLANNING COMMISSION? >>Testifier: I WILL DISCUSS THAT WITH MY -- >>Chair Kia'aina: THERE IS CONCERNS EXPESSED THAT BECAUSE THEY HAVE SO MANY OTHER DUT DUTIES, ADEQUATE PROBABLY TIMING, IS NOT GIVEN TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. I WANTED TO MAKE SURE THAT SINCE WE'RE NOT THROWS OF THE BUDGET, TART OUR BUDGET HEARING NEXT WEEK. YOU KNOW HOW I AM. IN YOUR BUDGET OR NOT, YOU DEAL WITH IT NOW NOT LATER. WHAT IS THE SENSE OF HAVING RECOMMENDATIONS WHEN WE DON'T ACT ON THEM? >>Testifier: WE'LL LOOK AT THAT. >>Chair Kia'aina: MEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILMEMBER CORDERO. >>Councilmember Cordero: THANK YOU CHAIR. MY QUESTION, NOT FOR COUNSEL. AM I ABLE TO CALL UP DPP BACK? THANK YOU. HI DIRECTOR. I DO HAVE A QUESTION. AS IT RELATES TO ROUTINELY, I KNOW THERE WERE CONCERNS ABOUT ATTENDANCE AND THE MAKING QUORUM. NOT JUST THIS COMMISSION BUT ESPECIALLY PLANNING COMMISSION BILL. BACK GBACK IN THE DAY. CAUSE FOR PROBLEM NOW OR ARE WE ABLE TO MEET THE DIFFERENT FOUR OR FIVE MEETINGS THAT HAS BEEN NECESSARY FOR THE P PLANNING COMMISSION? >>Testifier: YOU KNOW, I VHAVEN'T HEARD TOO MANY ISSUES ABOUT GETTING QUORUM. I THINK THAT'S ALWAYS AN ISSUE FOR ANY BOARD. THESE ARE VOLUNTEERS. AND STRUGGLE BECAUSE I KNOW THEY HAVE BUSY LIVES AND BEING READY TO BEING AVAILABLE ISN'T ALWAYS EASY. SO WE CONTINUE TO LOOK TO FELONY VAC VAC VACANCIES FOR ALL BOARD. I DON'T THINK FOR PLANNING COMMISSION. TO FILL VACANCIES, ALWAYS AN ISSUE AND IT'S NOT EXTREME RIGHT NOW. BUT MAKING SURE THAT WE FILL THE VACANCIES IS REALLY IMPORTANT. PEOPLE IN THE PUBLIC WHO ARE INTERESTED IN QUALIFYING, THEY SHOULD THINK ABOUT VOLUNTEERING. >>Councilmember Cordero: THANK YOU. DIRECTOR I KNOW YOU'RE NOT ON THE COMMISSION. I KNOW THAT YOU RELAY THAT THE BOARD ITSELF AND I KNOW THAT CHAIR IS POSTPONING THIS UNTIL FUTURE MEETING DATES. I PROBABLY WILL ASK THE CHAIR THEN. I WAS WAS GOING FOR ASK, WHETHER OR NOT HOW THINK DETERMINE, WHICH PLANS AND WHICH ATMs TO HOLD ON FOR LONGER -- ITEMS TO HOLD ON LONGER PERIOD OF TIME. HALAWA PEARL CITY T.O.D. PLAN, WAS IT THE ZONING PLAN, THAT WAS HELD A A BIT LONGER WITH COMMENTS FROM THE HALAWA COMMUNITY WHICH IS AREA THAT I REPRESENT. AND WHILE OTHERS SEEM TO COME BACK DIRECTLY TO US, WHICH GUESS CHANGES THAT WEREN'T IMPLEMENTED BY THE RESOLUTIONS AT THE COUNCIL. ADOPTED, AND A LOT OF WORK THAT HAS TO BE DONE EITHER IN THIS, ANY OF THE SUBJECT MATTER COMMITTEES BUT ESPECIALLY IT'S ZONING COMMITTEE. SO I WANTED TO ASK THAT QUESTION, IF THEY POSSIBLY WATCH THIS IN THE FUTURE, ALSO IF YOU HAPPEN TO HAVE RESPONSE TO THAT. >>Testifer: I'M NOT AWARE OF THE DETAILS OF THAT. I WOULD JUST ASSUME THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO GET MORE INFORMATION OR GATHERING INFORMATION IN ORDER TO MOVE THINGS F FORWARD. >>Councilmember Cordero: THANK YOU. WE HAVEN'T SEEN A LOT OF A GUESS BUSY WORK THAT NEEDED TO BE DONE NOW, BUT EVEN JUST A YEAR, EVEN WOULD YEARS AGO, QUITE A PROBLEM THAT I KNOW CHAIR KIA'AINA RAISED A LOT DURING ZONING HEARING. SO THANK YOU. >>Chair Kia'aina: THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION COUNCILMEMBER CORDERO. FEW YIESHES AGO, WHEN WEAR YEARS AGO, DID HAVE A PROBLEM WHERE WITH MAKING QUORUM, I STATED AT THE TIME AND I STILL BELIEVE, THAT WHILE THEY ARE VOLUNTEERS, THERE'S A LOT OF PEOPLE WANT TO BE ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION. AND I FEEL THAT'S UP TO THE CHAIR OF THE COMMISSION THAT AFTER X AMOUNT OF ABSENCES, WE REALLY NEED TO ASK T MEMBERS WHETHER THEY SHOULD STALE REMAIN. WE CAN'T HAVE STILL REMAIN. WE IS CAN'T HAVE A PLANNING COMMISSION NOT IF YOU FULLY FUNCTIONING. I THINK STATEWIDE, ONE OF THE GREATEST CONCERNS FOR PROJECTS MOVING FORWARD, NOT JUST COMMERCIAL PROJECTS BUT RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS, IS THE BURIAL COUNCILS. AND THEY ARE HAVING A VERY VERY DIFFICULT JUSJUST HISTORICALLY AND EVEN NOW, REALLY THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE AN ALTERNATIVE MECHANISM SHOULD THEY NOT GET QUORUM TO BE ABLE TO RENDER DECISION BECAUSE A LOT OF PROJECTS ARE BEING HELD UP. IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTION, WELCOME TYLER DOS-SANTOS TAM. NO OTHER QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. WE WILL NOW TAKE PUBLIC TESTIMONY. FIRST IN PERSON COUNCIL P.M. COUNCIL CHAMBER. IN IN-PERSON TESTIFIERS. >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, THERE ARE NONE. >>Chair Kia'aina: ANY TESTIFIERS REMOTELY? >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, THERE ARE NONE. >>Chair Kia'aina: CHAIR RECOMMEND THAT IS ACTION ON THIS MATTER BE POSTPONED UNTIL THE NEXT SCHEDULED MEETING OF THE COMMITTEE ON APRIL 2, 20 2026. IRMT RIM CHAIR WILL TAKE E'O TAKE MATTER UNDER ADVISEMENT AND PREPARE A DRAFT REPORT WITH RECOMMENDATIONS FOR CONSIDERATION AT THAT MEETING. ANY DISCUSSION? ANY OBJECTION OR RESERVATIONS? , HEARING NONE SO ORDERED. MOVING TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 2. RESOLUTION 26-27 ━ 4669 AND GRANTING A SPECIAL MANAGEMENT AREA MAJOR PERMIT TO KINOSHITA GROUP CO. LTD TO ALLOW FOR THE CONSTRUCTION OF A NEW ONE-STORY, SINGLE-UNIT DWELLING, DETACHED COVERED AREA, IN-GROUND SWIMMING POOL AND WATER FEATURE, AND AT-GRADE SPA ON TWO JOINTLY TO55,007 -9D 8 EX SQUARE FEET RESIDENCE DISTRICT. 25,000 SQUARE FOOT, NONSHORELINE LOT LOCATED AT 4669 KAHALA EARVEL. IDENTIFIED AS TAX MAP KEY,. KAHALA AVENUE IDENTIFIED TAX MAP KEY 35005, 005 WAIALAE KAHALA. POSTED ON THE AGENDA CD1 VERSION THE RESOLUTION. WHICH I SUBMITTED. FOR YOUR INFORMATION, SUMMARY THE AMENDMENTS IS LIST IT'S ON THE AGENDA. EMPLOWOULD VERBAL AMENDMENT IT'S REQUESTED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND PERMITTING. TO CONDITION F OF THE CD1 RELATING TO IMPACTS ARCHAEOLOGICAL HISTORIC AND CULTURAL RESOURCES THAT MAY BE PRESENT ON THE PROJECT SITE. IN CONDITION F P, REPLACED REFERENCE IWI KUPUNA HUMAN ABOUT YOUR WITH FAI BURIALS INCG IWI KUPUNA NATIVE HAWAIIAN ANCESTRAL REMAINS ALSO LAST SENTENCE CONDITION F, DELETE PHRASES ALL MITIGATION PROTOCOLS APPROVED OR OTHERWISE REQUIRED BY SHPD SENTENCE READS, REQUIREMENT ENUMERATED IN THIS CONDITION MUST BE CLEARLY STATED UNDER ENVIRONMENTAL NOTES ON ALL PROJECTS CONSTRUCTION PERMIT PLANS AND THE BUILDING PERMIT PLANS. TWO ZONING LOTS A JOINTLY DEVELOPED. THEREFORE CONSIDERED ONE ZONING LOT FOR DEVELOPMENT PURPOSES. PROJECT FLU CONSTRUCTION WILL OCCUR PARCEL 8. MAUKA LOT AND PRIME RIRL UNDEVELOPED PARCEL 5. WHICH IS THE SHORELINE LOT. DEVELOPED WITH A TWO STORY, SINGLE UNIT DWELL INGROUND POOL AND SPA, FISH POND AND FENCING. TWO SINGLE DWELLING UNITS ARE ALLOWED. 55,798 SQUARE FOOT JOINT DEVELOPED ZONING LOT. 8% OF PARCEL 5 WILL BE INPACKED BY 3.2 3.2 FEET SEA LEL RISE BY THE YEAR 2100. PARCEL 8 OUTSIDE OF THE SEA LEVEL RISE. COAST YOEXPOSURE AREA. EROSION RATED 0.67 PER YEAR. CALCULATION DOES NOT APPLY TO THE PRIMARY URBAN CENTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN AREA. SHORELINE SETBACK FOR THE PROJECT SITE IS 75 FEET. WITHOUT A CURRENT IS EARTH SCERTIFIEDSURVEY. SETBACK 2330 FEET. 230 FEET OUTSIDE. OUTSIDE EXPOSURE ARIA. 60% PARCEL 8 IS WITHIN FLOOD ZONED AV AE AND 35% OF PARCEL 8 WITHIN FLOOD ZONE A. BOTH FLOOD ZONE CATEGORIES ARE FRINGE FLOOD AREAS WITHIN THE FLOOD HAZARD AREA. AND MUST COMPLY WITH THE SPECIAL FLOOD HAZARD REQUIREMENTS OF ROH CHAPTER 21A. DWELLING WILL BE ELEVATED ROCKS APPROXIMATELY 8.5 FEET ABOVE MEAN SEA SEA LEVEL. ELEVATION OF 8 FEET. CONDITION C2 OF THE PROPOSED CD1 REQUIRES APPLICANT TO ACT KNOCK AND TAKE RESPONSIBILITY ACKNOWLEDGE. CLEAN-UP AND RE TRUMP ARESTORATION SIT EVENT LOSS OF PROPERTY. RESEARCH IDENTIFIED IWI KUPUNA IN THE AREA SURROUNDING PROJECT SITE. KAYE ULU PONO PRO PRO PREPARED D INSPECTION FOR THE PROJECT SITE. RECOMMENDED THAT APPLICANT PREPARE ARCHAEOLOGICAL INVENTORY SURVEY WITH SUBSURFACE TESTING FOR THE PROJECT SITE. APPLICANT IS HIRED KEALA PONO TO CONDUCT THE SURVEY. CONDITION F INCLUDES CONDITIONS REQUIRING APPLICANT TO SUBMIT O TO DPP COPY OF THE DIVISION WRITTEN ACCEPTANCE OF THE PROJECT ARCHAEOLOGICAL INVENTORY SURVEY AND IMPLEMENT ALL MITIGATION PROTOCOLS APPROVED OR OTHERWISE REQUIRED BY THE DIVISION. PROJECT PROPOSAL, PROPOSALS TO EXCAVATE APPROXIMATELY 500 YARDS SOIL MATERIAL, USED INFILL ACROSS PROJECT SITE. NO IMPORTATION OF SOIL FILL MATERIAL IS PROPOSED. APPROXIMATELY 22 CUBIC YARDS OF ST STRUCTURAL FILL MATERIAL PROPOSED TO BE IMPORT THE TO SUPPORT PROJECT SITE PREP REAGAN CONSTRUCTION. MITIGATE ANY TRANSFER AND INVASIVE PATHOGENNINGS PESTER O PLANT. INCLUDING FROM CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT PROPOSED CD1 CONDITIONS CONDITION J REQ REQUIRES APPLICANT TO COMPLY WITH CERTAIN PERO PROTOCOLS TO MINIMIZE SPREAD OF VIDEO GA INVASIVESPECIES. JIM HAYES PROVIDING BRIEF PRESENTATION. PRESENTATION IS AVAILABLE ONLINE AS MISCELLANEOUS COMMUNICATION 87-2026. >>Testifier: THANK YOU CHAIR. JIM HAYES, REPRESENTING APPLICANT. JUST QUICK PRESENTATION. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR REVIEWING THE PROJECT CHAIR. THIS PROJECT CALL IN THE PRIMARY URBAN CENTER OR CORRIDOR. SO AS THE CHAIR MENTIONED, SHORELINE SETBACK IS BASED ON JUST 60-FOOT, PLUS 15-FOOT WAIVER LINE. PROJECT SITE AS EXPLAINED IS JOINT DEVELOPMENT BETWEEN THE PARCEL THAT'S ON KAHALA AVENUE AND PARCEL THAT'S ON SHOR SHORELINE. PROPOSED DEVELOPMENT ENTIRELY ON THE PARCEL CLOSER TO KAHALA AVENUE. SO IT'S QUITE WAYS FROM THE SHORELINE. CHAIR MENTIONED, PROJECT AREA AT LEAST MAUKA PORTION, IS OUTSIDE THE SHORELINE ORG SEA LEVEL RISEALEVEL RISE EXPOSUR SN IN BLUE. AND OUTSIDE EROSION HAZARD AREAS. THIS SHOWS BOTH THE RED KEROLE TIFLYUN-- RELATIVELY UNDD ROADSIDE PARCEL. PARCEL IS CURRENTLY DEVELOPED WITH, LIKE A POND. AND SO SOME OF AREA HAS BEEN DISTURBED PREVIOUSLY. BY THE POND AND OTHER ACTIVITIES FOR LANDSCAPING ON THAT AREA. THEN THE SHORELINE PARCEL HAS A SINGLE-FAMILY DWELLING THAT YOU CAN SEE HERE. KIND OF SHAPED LIKE A PIANO. THIS OVERVIEW OF WAS THE DEVELOPMENT WOULD CONSIST OF. RELATIVELY MODEST STRUCTURE. WITH THREE BEDROOMS. ON A SINGLE LEVEL. AND AS MENTIONED, LIVING AREA WILL BE ELEVATED ABOVE THE BASE FLOOD ELEVATION. BASE FLOOD ELEVATION ONLY 8 FEET. GROUND LEVEL IS OF F 6 FEET. NOT ELEVATED VERY FAR OFF THE GROUND. LASTLY, I THINK THAT MAY BE THE END. I GUESS THAT'S END. MAYBE WE K SKIPPED ONE. THAT'S ALL RIGHT. ANY QUESTIONS REVIEWED THE REVISED CD1, AND UNDERSTAND THE PROPOSED POLICE DEPAR DEPARTMENTFICATIONS THAT DINNER DINNER MODIFICATIONS PRESENTED VERBALLY HAVE NO ISSUES WITH THE RESO REST LIEUTENANT RESREST--RESOLUTIONS. >>Chair Kia'aina: ARE YOU DONE? ,Y. THANK YOU. >>Chair Kia'aina: I DIDN'T HEAR AN ENDING THERE. >>Testifier: YES. MEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS? BEFORE CALLING UP ADMINISTRATION, I'M GOING TO CALL FOR TAKE PUBLIC TEST TESTIMONY. PROCEEDING FIRST WITH IN-PERSON TESTIMONY CHAMBER, IN IN-PERSON TESTIFIERS. >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, THERE ARE NONE. >>Chair Kia'aina: ANY REMOTE TESTIFIERS? >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, THERE ARE NONE. >>Chair Kia'aina: FOR THE ADMINISTRATION, WE HAVE DAWN APUNAS DIRECTOR DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND PERMITTING. >>Testifier: NOR SUGGESTION. WE'RE HERE FOR ANY HES JESUS. >>Chair Kia'aina: ANY QUESTIONS QUESTIONS OUR THI THIRD,ER BE AMENDED TO C CD1 FURTHER AMENDED. DISCUSSED AT CONDITION F I I WILL I I AM GET PA IT'S RESOURCES. IMPACTS. ADD IMPACTS PRESENTS ON THE SITE. FIRST AMENDING CONDITION F3 REPLACE REFERENCE TO IWI KUPUNA WITH HUMAN BURIALS, INCLUDING IWI KUPUNA. NATIVE HAWAIIAN ANCESTRAL REMAINS, SECOND AMENDING LAST SENTENCE OF CONDITION F, TO DELETE PHRASES AND ALL MITIGATION PE PROTOCOLS TO APPROVED O REQUIRED BY SHPD. REQUIREMENTS ENUMERATED IN THIS CONDITION MUST BE CLEARLY STATED. UNDER ENVIRONMENTAL NOTES ON ALL PROJECT CONSTRUCTION PERMIT PLAN AND BUILDING PERMIT PLANS. ANY DISCUSSION? ANY OBJECTIONS OR READ? HEARING NONE. OR RESOLUTION AMENDED TO CD1. CHAIR THEN RECOMMEND THAT IS RESOLUTION 26-CD1 RCD1 REPORTEDT FOR ADOPTION. ANY DISCUSSION? ANY OBJECTIONS OR RESERV RESERVATIONS? HEARING NONE. SO ORDERED. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 3. FOR ACTION. 26-29. GRANTS SPECIAL MANAGEMENT AREA MAJOR PERMIT TO HAWAIKI SUBMARINE CABLE USA LLC TO ALLOW FOR THE EXPANSION OF THE EXISTING CABLE LANDING STATION ("CLS") VIA HORIZONTAL DIRECTIONAL DRILLING, AND INSTALLATION OF THREE NEW TRANS-PACIFIC SUBSEA WARSHAUER HOLES INSTALLATION OF THREE FL NEW TRANS-PACIFIC. TELECOMMUNICATION CABLES TO TRANSFERS UNDER THE SHORELINE AS KAHE POINT BEACH PARK. ININ NANAKULI. CONTINUING UNDER THE FORMER OAHU RAIL AND LAND COMPANY RIGHT OF WAY, AND TRAIN TRACKS IN FARRINGTON HIGHWAY. TO THEISTING CABLE STATION FACILITIES ON PORTIONS OF SIX ZONING LOTS. SIX ZONING LOTS IDENTIFIED TAX MAP KEYS 92049, PORTIONS OF 001, 002, AND 005. PORTIONS OF 001, 010, AND 010. I'M SORRY. MODIFICATIONS OF THE EXISTING CABLE STATION DRIVEWAY WHICH IS SHARED ABOUT OWNERS OF THIS ACE GE ASA JASONS PARCEL ZONED R5 RESIDENTIAL DISTRICT ADJACENT, AND 011 EXISTING CABLE STATION SITE ZONED COUNTRY DISTRICTMENT POSTED ON AGENDA CD1 VERSION MUCH THE RESOLUTION. I SUBMITTED. SUMMARY OF THE AMENDMENTS LI LISTED ON THE AGENDA. SIMILAR TO THE PREVIOUS MEASURE PROPOSING TWO VERBAL AMENDMENTS. REQUESTED BY DPP. TO CONDITION B MUCH THE CD1 RELATING TO IMPACTS TO ARCHAEOLOGICAL HISTORIC AND CULTURE ROLO SO RESOURCES MAY E PRESENT ON THE SITE. B3 ALI'I PLACE REFERENCE TO IWI KUPUNA WITH HUMAN ABOUT YOBURIALSES INCLUDING EVE PUNAHOU. ALSO LAST SENTENCE CONDITION B DELETE PHRASES ALL MITIGATION PROTOCOLS APPROVED OR REQUIRED BY SHPD. SENTENCE READS, REQUIREMENTS TEE ENUMERATE THE IN THIS CONDITION MUST BE CLEARLY STATED, UNDER ENVIRONMENTAL NOTES AND ALL PROJECT CONSTRUCTION PERMIT PLANS AND BUILDING PERMIT PLANS. PROJECTS DRILLING TUNNELING AND CONDUITS SURFACE AT THE EXIT POINT. APPROXIMATELY 3,000 FEET OFFSHORE. MOST OF PROJECT DRILLING AN TUNNELING WILL OCCUR UNDER SUBMERGED LANDS WITHIN THE STATE LAND USE CONSERVATION DISTRICT. WHICH IS UNDER THE JURISDICTION OF THE STATE OF HAWAII DEPARTMENT OF LAND AND NATURAL RESOURCES. WHICH WILL EVALUATE, BE EVALUATED UNDER STATE CONSERVATION DISTRICT USE APPROVAL PROCESS. THE PORTION OF THE PROJECT SUBJECT TO SMA MAJOR PERMIT APPROVAL IS THE PORTION THAT OCCURS MAUKA OF THE STATE LAND USE CONSERVATION DISTRICT. EL PROJECT LANDS SIDE AND CABLE LANDING STATION EXPANSION SITE IS LOCATED APPROXIMATELY 250 FEET MAUKA OF THE SHORELINE. PROJECT DOES NOT PROPOSE ANY ABOVE GROUND STRUCTURES DOES NOT INVOLVE IN ADDITION TO THE IS EXISTING CABLE STATION BUILDING. PROJECT IS SMALL UTILITY WHICH IS PERMITTED IN ALL ZONING DISTRICTS. PROJECT REPRESENTS APPLICANT'S CONTRIBUTION TO THE HAWAII KAKOU INITIATIVE. WHICH IS STATE OF I WOULD PROGRAM TO ENSURE COMMUNITIES IN THE STATE HAVE RELIABLE AND AFFORDABLE ACCESS TO HIGH HIGH-SPEED INTERNET SERVICE. CABLE LANDING STATION. SITE IS NOT ANTICIPATED TO BE IMPACT BY 3.2 FEET OF SEA LEVEL RISE BY THE YEAR 2100. THERE IS NO EROSION RATE ESTABLISHED FOR THE ROCKY COAST THRIEN LINE C KAHE POINT. SHORELINE IS 60 FEET. PROJECT TRANSFERSES UNDER THE SHORELINE, SETBACK AREA, SHORELINE SETBACK VARIANCE IS REQUIRED. VARIANCE PROCESSED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND PERMITTING AFTER THIS SMA MAJOR PERMIT IS APPROVED. CONDITION E OF THE PROPOSED CD1 REQUIRES APPLICANT TO OBTAIN SHORELINE SETBACK VARIANCE PRIOR TO THE ISSUE WANLS OF ANY CONSTRUCTION OR BUILDING PERMIT FOR THE PROJECT. ISSUANCE) ENVIRONMENTAL ASSESSMENT WAS COMPLETE AND STATE DEPARTMENT OF LAND NATURAL RESOURCES IS ISSUE FINDING OF NO SIGNIFICANT IMPACT ON JUNE 24. 2025. ASSESSMENT INCLUDED ARC LOGICAL INVENTORY SURVEY CONDUCTED MAY 20, 2024 ARCHAEOLOGICAL ARCHAEOLOGICAL CONSULTING. NO RESOURCES INENRICHMENT COIN INENCOUNTERREDDURING THE SURVEY. PRIOR LITE LOTTERY REVEALED PERM IN ADVICE CONTINUE I HAVE PROJECT SITE. CONDITION B, PROPOSED CD1 INCLUDES CONDITIONS REQUIRING APPLICANT, TO SUBMIT TO DPP COPY OF THE STATE HISTORIC PRESERVATION WRITTEN ACCEPTANCE OF PROJECT AIS AND IMPLEMENT ALL MITIGATION PROTOCOLS APPROVED OR OTHERWISE REQUIRED BY THE DISVISION. CULTURAL IMPACT ASSESSMENT WAS CONDUCTED BY GARCIA & ASSOCIATES IN 2017. FOR THE ORIGINAL CABLE LANDING STATION PROJECT. THE AAEG ASSESSMENTS TECHNICAL REPORT FOUND NO TRYING DIGIT A CALL THE RAIL PRACTICES OR RESOURCES ON THE SITE. CAN CHAIR OF THE NANAKULI-MAILI NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD, NUMBER 36, EXPRESSED VARIOUS ENVIRONMENTAL CON CONCERNS. REGARDING IMPACTS OF THE PROJECT AND THE CABLE LAYING PROCESS TO OFFSHORE CORAL AND MARINE ECOSYSTEM. INCLUDING PHYSICAL DAMAGE, POLLUTION, AND MICROBIOLOGICAL CHANGES. THESE CONCERNS RELATE TO PORTION OF THE PROJECT WITHIN THE STATE LAND USE CONSERVATION DISTRICT AND EVALUATED UNDER THAT APPROVAL PROCESS. ALL EXCAVATED SOIL FROM THE PROJECT TEMPORARY STAGE UG AREA WILL BE TESTED AND REUSED OR IF REQUIRED, REMOVED AND DISPOSED OF OFFSITE. WHILE NO IMPORTATION OF SOIL OR STRUCTURAL FILL MATERIAL IS PROPOSED, SINCE CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT MAY TRANSFER INVASIVE PATH JENSEN PESTIER O PLANTS, PROPOSED CD1 INCLUDES, CONDITION D, WHICH REQUIRES, APPLICANT TO COMPLY WITH CERTAIN PE PROTOCOLS TO MINIMIZE SPREAD OF INVASIVE SPECIES. I DO KNOW THAT THAT AREA ACTUALLY HAS A LOT OF COCONUT RHINOCEROS BEETLE INFESTATION. MY FAMILY LIVE AS LONG THAT CORRIDOR. IT'S ALL OVER THE PLACE. JOINING COUNCIL CHAMPIONSHIP BERHOW IS DAVID CHAMBER. DAVID FROM BW DIGITAL PROVIDING BEEF PRESENTATION. PRESENTATION IS AVAILABLE ONLINE AS MISCELLANEOUS COMMUNICATION 86-2026. ON AS PROVIDING A BRIEF PRESENTATION. WELCOME VICE CHAIR WATERS. >>Testifier: ALOHA MEMBERS COMMITTEE. PROCEED. PRESENTATION BEING LOADED. DAVID SWISER PROJECT MANAGER FOR HAWAII SUBMARINE CABLE. SHARE WITH YOU OF OUR PROJECT TO EXPAND OUR EXISTING SERVICES SUBSEA CABLE LAND FACILITIES. WE HAVE BEEN PART OF HAWAII'S DIGITAL INFRASTRUCTURE SINCE OUR TRANS PACIFIC SERVICES CABLE SYSTEM CAME ONLINE HERE IN 2018. EDUCATIONAL CONNECTS HAWAII TO THE WEST COAST. AND AMERICAN SAMOA AND R NEW ZEALAND, TO AUSTRALIA. INCLUDES BUILT IN CAPABILITIES USED TO EXTEND SERVICE TO OTHER PACIFIC ISLAND NATIONS. SYSTEM STRENGTH ENDED HAWAII'S DIGITAL RESILIENCE AND INTRODUCED ONLY COMPETITION TO MARKET PREVIOUSLY DOMINATED SMALL NUMBER OF INCUMBENT OPERATORS. PROPOSED PROJECT REPRESENTS NEXT STEP SAFEGUARDS HAWAII'S CONNECTIVITY. SEVERAL OF HAWAII'S EXISTING CABLES ARE NEEDED END OF THEIR OPERATION -- NEARING OPERATIONAL LIFE SPANS. AT THE SAME TIME, NEW TRANS-PACIFIC SYSTEMS PAST DATE COMPLEXITIES HE PERMITTING. GOAL IS TO HELP REMOVE THESE APPARENT BARRIERS HAWAII ROMAINES GLOBALLY CONNECTED. O REMAINS. NO NEW SUBSEA CABLES WILL BE I YOU INSTALE I INSTALLED PART OF THIS APPLICATION. MAKE IT FUTURE READY TO ALLOWING FUTURE CABLING OWNERS TO LAND NEW SYSTEMS HERE WITHOUT THE NEED TO REPLACE NEWNEAR SHORE MAJOR CONSTRUCTION WORK. FUTURE CABLES EQUIPMENT HOUSED IN OUR EXISTING FACILITY. AND WE WILL USE HORIZON AN CAL DIRECTIONAL BILLING TO BORE HHOLES THROUGH THE B BEDROCK. BELOW SEA LEVEL,. TRENCHING DREDGING AND NEAR SHORE CONSTRUCTION. BY MAKING HAWAII MORE ATTRACTIVE LANDING POINT, WE CAN PROVIDE DIVERSE CONNECTIVITY FOR CARRIERS ON OPERATORS INCREASE COMPE COMPETITION, HEALTHY MODERATE PLACES OVER TIME PROVIDE GREATER RESILIENCE CABLE FAILURES AND PROVIDING -- EDUCATION REMOTE WORK AND HEALTH CARE AND PUBLIC SITING. COMMITTED TO LOCAL WORKFORCE AROUND A RELY HEAVILY LOCAL PER HE EXPERTISE. CONSTRUCTION WORK, LAND SUR SURVEYOR, ASM ARCHAEOLOGICAL CULTURAL ENGAGEMENT, COMMUNITY LLIAISON FROM WAIANAE AND LOCAL OPPOSITION OPERATIONS TEAM AND E ITSELF. TERMS OF COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT, SINCE 2024, HE EXTENSIVE I COMMUNITIES MEMBERS CONTINUES E'O PARTICULARLY NANAKULI. AND KAPOLEI. PARTICULARLY NANAKULI. NANAKULI NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD AND KAPOLEI NEIGHBORHOOD BO BOARD, COUNCIL, -- RESTORATION GROUPS BY RESIDENTS. HOST OPEN DOOR ENGAGEMENT ENGAGS NANAKULI AND KAPOLEI, RESIDENCE WI TECHNICAL ENVIRONMENTAL SPECIALIST. DIRECT RESULT, WE ADJUSTED OUR PROJECT PLANS FROM 6 -- IT DOWN TO 3. AS PART OF OUR ONGOING LONGTERM COMMITMENT. SUPPORTING COMMUNITY TO SLIP PROSCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM. DEVELOPMENTAL. BENEFITS RESILIENCE CONNECT ARE MESH MEASURABLE. GROWN TO OVER 90%. NEW CAPACITY ENTERED MARKET. AMERICAN SAMOA ACTIVATION OF HAWAII BRANCH INCREASED ANTICIPATION UP TO 50%. TELL ON STRAIGHT LINK BETWEEN INFRASTRUCTURE, DIGITAL HE CAN WITH WIT ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY AND COMMITTEE RESILL YERCHES. EQUITY. RESILL YEDGES. HAWAII BECOMES BEAUTIFUL LANDING POINT FUTURE ANDREW CABLESCOMPETITION CAPACITY, FOR RESIDENTS AND BUSINESS. MAHALO FOR YOUR TIME AND CONSIDERATION. HAPPY TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >>Chair Kia'aina: DID THE POWERPOINT WASN'T MOVING FORWARD. WAS THERE A REASON FOR THAT? PLEPS NEW QUESTIONS? MEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS? >>Councilmember Tupola: THANK YOU GUYS FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU FOR THE OUTKEEP YOU'VE DONE IN THE COMMUNITY. IN REGARDS TO THE PREFERENTIAL PRESENPRESENTATIONS NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD, HOW RECENT OR LONG AGO WAS THAT? I'M UNFAMILIAR CATT CATTLE WHEN. >> PRESENTATION WAS IN EXIEWNG E'O NNANAKULI IN NOVEMBER. ER. >>Councilmember Tupola: PHYSICALLY BEEN THERE. TOURED ME ON IT. ANSWERED ALL OF MY QUESTION HES DON'T HAVE ANY SUPPORT THE ROOM. OUTREACH COMMUNITY HAS BEEN AN EXAMPLE EXTENSIVE. AS FAR AS MAKING SURE THAT THERE IS I BELIEVE YOU GUYS HAVE A CULTURALLY LEE ASON O ON BOARD. LIAISON ON BOARD. >>Testifier: CULTURE LAL RELAY SON LIAISON. ALSO THE EAST -- STATEMENT DEBDEDEMDEDEMDDEDRICK. >>Councilmember Tupola: HE IS THE MAN. I'M GLAD I WILL SAY THAT HE IS KIND OF THE CULTURAL PRACTICE ARE FOR THAT AREA HELPS TO TAKE CARE OF, SITES AND AVES OUT THERE. SO THANK YOU. I KNOW AHUS OUT THERE. KIND OF NICH WHAT YOU DO. NOT DIRECTLY FACE OF ALL THE COMMUNITY MEMBERS HAS BEEN GOOD TO AT LEAST KNOW, WHAT IT IS WHAT IS DOING. THING YOU FOR YOUR CONTINUED DUE DILIGENCE ON HOSTING ME ON THE SITE. >>Testifier: MAHALO. >>Chair Kia'aina: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? BEFORE I CALL UP THE INSPIRATION? TAKE PUBLIC TESTIMONY. ADMINISTRATION. ANY, IN PERSON OR ONLINE TESTIFIERS? >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, WE HAVE COUPLE STANDING BY. >>Chair Kia'aina: IN PERSON OR ONLINE? >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, IN PERSON. >>Chair Kia'aina: FIRST TESTIFIER IS JENNIFER CRUISE. LEGAL FIREWORKS CHAIR. AND MEMBERS OF THE COM COMMITTE. GIN. PROJECT MANAGER WITH FRANK B COLUCCIO COMPANY. GENERAL CONTRACTOR FOR THIS PROJECT. JENNIFER. COMPANY HAS BEEN OPERATING IN HAWAII SINCE THE 70s. SO NEARLY 45 YEARS. AND ABOUT 90% OF OUR WORKFORCE ARE LOCAL RESIDENTS. MANY OF WHO HAVE BEEN WITH OUR COMPANY FOR OVER 15 YEARS. WE ALSO PRIORITIZE WORKING WITH LOCAL SUBCONTRACTORS, SUPPLIERS AND SERVICE PROVIDERS WHENEVER POSSIBLE. PROJECTS LIKE THIS SUPPORT LOCAL ECONOMY AND CONSTRUCTION COMMUNITY AS WELL. OUR TEAM HAS ALSO COMPLETED TWO OTHER SHORE CROSSINGS AND SEVERAL DIRECTIONAL DRILLING PROJECTS HERE IN HAWAII. OUR TEAM WORKS HERE IN HAWAII AND WE ALSO TAKE THE RESPONSIBILITY OF WORKING IN THESE COASTAL AREAS VERY SERIOUSLY. OUR COMMITMENT IS TO EXECUTED THE WORK SAFELY, COMPLY AND WITH ALL PERMIT CONDITIONS MINIMIZE DISRUPTION TO THE VOWEDDING COMMUNITIES. SURROUNDING COMMUNITIES MAHALO FOR THAT THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE DIRECT TESTIMONY. >>Chair Kia'aina: THANK YOU FOR YOUR TESTIMONY. MEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS? NEXT TESTIFIER IS FRED RODY. >>Testifier: GOOD MORNING CHAIR. KIA'AINA A MEMBER COMMITTEE. FRED RODY, COPRESIDENT AND CEO OF DR FORTRESS HONOLULU LARGEST DATA CENTER AND HUB OF THE INTERNET. I WOULD LIKE TO PROVIDE MY SUPPORT FOR ITEM NUMBER 3. NOT ONLY DOES IT SOLVE SOLUTION WHERE THESE UNDER SEA CABLE ASSIST IT IS ARE PASSING US, SYSTEMS MAKING IT EASIER FOR THEM TO COME IN, PROVIDE ECOSYSTEM WHAT IT NEEDS WHEN THESE UNDER SEA CABLE SYSTEMS END OF LIUFAU A LIFE AND COULD N PRICES GO UP. GO IN, LOTS OF THEM, PRICES GO DOWN. CREATES NEW MARKETS. CREATES JOBS. MAKES SURE THAT WE HAVE A ROBUST TELECOMMUNICATIONS AND INTERNET SYSTEM. FOR NOW, AND FOR GENERATIONS TO COME. SO THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >>Chair Kia'aina: THANK YOU. MEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS? IS THERE ANYONE IN ELSE IN THE CHAMBER WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY? SEEING NONE. CLERK TO CONFIRM, THERE'S NO ONE ONLINE WAITING TO TESTIFY? >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, YES. CHAIR. >>Chair Kia'aina: FOR THE ADMINISTRATION, WE HAVE DAWN TAKEUCHI APUNA DIRECTOR OF PLANNING AND PERMITTING. >>Testifier: THANK YOU CH CHAIR. NO OBJECTIONS TO THE PROPOSED CD1 AND WE'RE AVAILABLE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. >>Chair Kia'aina: MEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS? BEFORE I M MAGNUM MY MAKAMAE RECOMMENDATION? 26 DINNER 29 BE AMENDED TO THE POSTED CD1. 26-29. FURTHER AMENDED AS WE DISCUSSED TO AMEND CONDITION B, RELATING TO IMPACTS TO ARCHAEOLOGICAL HISTORIC AND CULTURAL RESOWERS MAY BE PRESENT ON THE SITE BY FIRST AMENDING C CONDITION B3 REPLACE REFERENCE TO IWI KUPUNA WITH HUMAN BURIALS INCLUDING IWI KUPUNA. AND SECOND, AMENDING LAST SENTENCE OF CONDITION B TO THE DELETE PHRASES AND ALL MITIGATION P PROTOCOLS APPROVED OR OTHERWISE REQUIRED BY SHPD. ANY DISCUSSION? ANY OBJECTIONS OR RESERV RESERVATIONS? HEARING NONE. RESOLUTION HAS BEEN PAYDAY LENDINGED -- AMENDED TO CD1. RESOLUTION 26-29 CD1 BE REPORTED OUT FOR ADOPTION. ANY DISCUSSION? ANY OBJECTIONS OR RESERV RESERVATIONS? HEARING NONEMENT SO ORDERED. MENTIONED EARLIER, AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 4 BILL 70, 2025 CD1 HAS BEEN CANCELED. AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 5. FOR ACTION THE BILL 6, 2026. CD1, AMENDING DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR THE APARTMENT MIXED USE ZONING DISTRICTS. THIS BILL AMENDS LAND USE ORDINANCE TO MODIFY DEVELOPMENT STANDARDS FOR THE APARTMENT AND APARTMENT MIXED USE ZONING DISTRICTS. AMENDMENTS TO THE LAND USE ORDINANCE PROPOSED BY THE COUNCIL ARE PROCESSED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND PERMITTING AND PLANNING AND PLAG COMMISSION. BILL 6, 2026, DEPARTMENT'S RED ALM ALTERNATIVE VERSION OF BILL 5, 2026. WHICH WAS COUNCIL PROPOSED BY ADOPTION RESOLUTION OF 25-105. COMMISSION RECOMMENDED APPROVAL OF BILL 6. BILL REDUCES MINIMUM LOT SIZE TO 5,000 SQUARE FEET FOR ALL APARTMENT AND APARTMENT MIXED USE DISTRICTS WHICH THE DEPARTMENT CONSIDERS TO BE THE MINIMUM SIZE NEEDED TO DEVELOP THE LOTS SUFFICIENTLY. BILL ALSO PROVIDES STANDARD 60-D FOR A APARTMENT AND APARTMENT MIXED USE DISTRICTS WHICH DEPARTMENT BELIEVES WILL ACCOMMODATE ADEQUATE INFRASTRUCTURE WITH THE STREET FRONTAGE. REGARDING DENSITY, OR FLOOR AREA RATIO, WHICH I'LL BE REFERRING TO AS F.A.R., BILL INCREASE MAXIMUM RESIDENTIAL F.A.R. TO 2.0. IN THE A1 AND AMX 1 DISTRICTS. 3.0A2 AND AMX 2 DISTRICTS. AND 4.0 IN THE 83 AND AMX 3 DISTRICTS. MAXIMUM COMMERCIAL FAR TPR TPRAO*R 0.3 MIDDLE SCHOOL 1 DIM X1.AND 0.63 0.63 DISTRICT. MAXIMUM COMMERCIAL F.A.R. AN ADDITIONAL ALLOWANCE NOT AS PART OF THE OTHER ALL MAXIMUM F.A.R. ELIMINATED COMPETITION BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES, APARTMENT MIXED USE DISTRICTS. REGARDING MAXIMUM BUILDING AREA, MAXIMUM PERCENTAGE OF ZONING LOT THAT CAN BE COVERED BY STRAC ST T STR YOU CAN TOUR 0 INCHINGITE. STRUCTURE 0 INCHES. SCALE LINEARLY LOT SIZE INCREASE. STRUCTURE 30 INCHES. ARE BILL DOES NOT ADJUST REQUIRED YARDS SETBACKS AND MAXIMUM I HAD BUILDING HEIGHTS PROVIDE ADEQUATE CHECKS AGAINST INAPPROPRIATE DEVELOPMENT THAT MAY BE POSSIBLE WITH THE ADDITIONAL ALLOWED DENSITY. SINCE THE PLANNING COMMISSION RECOMMENDED BILL 6, 2026, SIMPLE MAJORITY VOTE, OF THE COUNCILMEMBERS IS REQUIRED. FOR BILL 6 TO PASS THIRD READING. BEFORE I CALL UP THE ADMINISTRATION, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE PUBLIC WILL TESTIMONY. PROCEEDING FIRST WITH IN-PERSON TESTIMONY IN THE CHAMBER. CLERK ANY IN-PERSON TESTI TESTIFIERS. >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, CHAIR THERE ARE -- WE HAVE O ONE. STANDING BY. >>Chair Kia'aina: IN-PERSON TESTIFIERS? WE HAVE WILLFORD MOTOSUI. >>Testifier: GOOD MORNING CHAIR KIA'AINA. AND VICE CHAIR WATERS. AND OTHER MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. I DO SUPPORT THIS BILL. HOWEVER, I HAVE THREE REQUEST THAT THIS COMMITTEE PUT INTO THIS BILL. AND NUMBER ONE, IS VERY, VERY IMPORTANT. I FEEL. I'M REQUESTING THAT YOUEL FOLKS EXEMPT MORE PROJECTS OF FOR SALE CONDO UNITS OF LESS THAN 75 UNITS AND TWO, EXEMPT DEVELOPMENTS OF LESS THAN 50 LOTS SUBDIVISIONS, FROM ORDINANCE 18-10 WHICH IS CHAPTER 29 AFFORDABLE HOUSING REQUIREMENTS. WHICH REKAUAIS RESIDENTIAL PROJECTS TO HAVE? REQUIRES TEN OR MORE CONDO UNITS OR WHOLE LOTS IN PROJECT TO SET ASIDE 10%, OF THOSE CONDO UNITS OR LOTS, TO SELL AT THE REDUCED AFFORDABLE PRICING. EXEMPTIONS SHOULD ALSO BE GIVEN TO PROJECTS WITH 50 OR LESS DWELLING UNITS FOR CLUSTER PROJECT HOUSING PROJECTS AND BE PLANNED DEVELOPMENT HOUSING PROJECTS OF 75 UNITS OR LESS. COUNTY CITY & COUNTY AND STATE AND BIG DEVELOPERS ARE DEV DEVELOPING THESE HUGE NUMBER OF UNITS IN THEIR PROJECTS, BUT THEY HAVE THE FINANCIAL RESOURCES OFFICE PERSONNEL SIDE, FINANCIAL COUGARS IN THEIR PROJECTS TO BE NEVAEH TAKUSHI ABLE PROVIDE AFFORDABLE HOUSING ALONG WITH THEIR MARKET UNITS. CUSHION, BUT SMALL DEVELOPERS SUCH AS ME, WITH SMALL PRO PROJECTS AN SMALL PROFIT MARGINS WILL BE PUT IN EXT EXTREMELY RISK CAN I AND FINANCL DIFFICULT RISKY AND FINANCIAL KISRISKY SITUATION. TRYING TO COME UP WITH 20% PROFIT. TRYING TO MEET AFFORDABLE HOUSING REQUIREMENTS WOULD CREATE A LOT OF RISK FOR US. TO DO EVEN A SMALL PROJECT. SMALL DEVELOPERS DON'T EVEN, DON'T HAVE THE BENEFITS OF LARGE DEVELOPMENTS SUCH AS COST SAVINGS FROM VOLUME, EVEN THE BIG DEVELOPERS, DEVELOPMENTS ARE SELLING ONLY 5 TO 70% I'VE BEEN TOLD, OF THE AVAILABLEEL AFFORDABLE UNITS IN THEIR PROJECTS. BECAUSE OF VARIETY OF REASONS. >>Chair Kia'aina: ARE YOU COMPLETE? ARE YOU FINISHED? >>Testifier: WELL, YES. OONE MORE PARAGRAPH. >>Chair Kia'aina: CAN I ASK, THIS IDEA, THIS P MEASURE E IN VERY MANY FORMS HAD A LOT OF HERE E HEARINGS. HAVE YOU TESTIFIED AT PREVIOUS HEARINGS? SH THE FIRST TIME YOU TESTIFIED. >>Testifier: NO. >>Chair Kia'aina: DURING THE DISCUSSION I'LL PROBABLY WE'LL ASK SOME QUESTIONS THE DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND PERMITTING IF WE COULD AB ABOUT YOUR PROPOSALS. OKAY? >>Testifier: OKAY. >>Chair Kia'aina: THANK YOU. IS THERE ANYONE IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBER WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY? SEEING NONE. ANY COULD YOU BE FER ONLINE TESTIFIES? EL ANY ONLINE TESTIFIERS. >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, ONE STANDING BY. >>Chair Kia'aina: TED KEFALAS ARE YOU ONLINE? >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, TESTIFIER NOT LOGGED ON. JONATHAN HILTON STANDING BY. >>Chair Kia'aina: JONA JONATHAN, ARE YOU TESTIFIERENING YOUR OWN CAPACITY? TIME-OFFINTESTIFYING, HOPEFULLYN HEAR ME R I TESTIFYING ON BEHALF OF GRASSROOTS INST INSTITUTE. >>Chair Kia'aina: THAT IS HELPFUL FOR ME TO KNOW. YOU'RE NOT TESTIFYING FOR HIM. YOU'RE TURNOVERRING TESTIFYING ON BEHALF GRASSROOTS INSTITUTE? CORRECT? >>Testifier: THAT'S CORRECT. >>Chair Kia'aina: PLEASES PROCEED. >>Testifier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hair Kia'aina: THANK YOU SO MUCH. MEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS? DLERKS ACLERK ANY OTHER STANDINY REMOTELY. >>Chair Kia'aina: >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, THERE ARE NONE SNOOVMENT MOVE FORWARD WITH THE ADMINISTRATION. THERE ARE NONE. DADAWN TAKEUCHI APUNA DIRECTOR DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND PERMITTING. >>Testifier: GOOD MORNING. ALEX BEATTY WITH DPP. WE CONTINUE TO SUPPORT BILL 6. DO YHEAR TO TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >>Chair Kia'aina: SURE. SINCE FOR FOLLOW UP ON THE PREVIOUS TESTIFIER, TWO TESTIFIERSING A,EL DO YOU HAVE ANY COMPLENS ON, THE I AM COMMENTS IMPACT SAMUEL DEVELOPERS AS EXPRESSED BY SMALL DEVELOPS BY WILLFORD M MOTOSUI. >>Testifier: I'M SORRY RELATED TO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING REQUIREMENT U REQUI.>>Chair Kia'aina: HE'S ASKING FOR EXEMPTIONS. >>Testifier: I THINK THAT THIS BILL WOULD APPLY EVENLY TO ALL DEVELOPERS. AND IS REALLY IMPORTANT THAT IT BE TREATED AS SUCH. SO THAT WE CAN BE TAN TYPE OBTAIN TYPE OF DEVELOPMENTS ENVISIONED BY PLANS EXECUTED BY THE LAND USE ORDINANCE. SO I DON'T KNOW WE SUPPORT ANY THROUGH THE LUO EDGES DISEMTION HE IS. DISCUSSION LATER FOR CHAPTER 32. EXEMPTIONS. INVOLVES EXEMPTIONS AND WAIVERS. >>Chair Kia'aina: AND DO YOU HAVE ANY COMMENTS A ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS BY THE GRASSROOTS INSTITUTE? >>Testifier: YES. WE EXAMPLE POLICE STATION EXPLICIT LIT SUPPORTEDTHOSE RECT SUPPORT THEM. NARROWER LOTS HAVE INVERSE EFFECT ON THE EFFICIENCY OF DEVELOPMENT. AND SINCE WE MADE OUR RECOMMENDATIONS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION FEW MONTHS AGO, I'VE BEEN PAYING A LOT OF ATTENTION TO THE ACTUAL APPLICATIONS OF WHAT HAPPENS IN THAT FRONTAGE. AS REAL PROJECTS COME THROUGH. AND IT IS SO CHALLENGING TO GET PEDESTRIAN ORIENTED FRONTAGE ON NARROWER LOTS. AND THE TYPES DENSITIES WE'RE TALKING ABOUT DEMANDS THAT DESIGN BE PEDESTRIAN AND TRANSIT FRIENDLY. AND NOT STRICTLY AUTO ORIE ORIENTED. NOT ENOUGH ROOM TO HAVE THE AMOUNT OF PARKING THAT IS NEEDED TO DEVELOP APARTMENT BUILDING SO THAT EVERYBODY HAS TWO PARKING SPACES. THEN WE HAVE TO ALLOW FOR THINGS LIKE STREET TREES OR BUS STOPS OR STREETLIGHTING ALL OF THOSE INFRASTRUCTURE ITEMS HAPPEN IN THAT NARROW FRONTAGE. AND 70 FEET IS THE REQUIREMENT RIGHT NOW. THAT'S ALREADY A LITTLE TIGHT. 60 FEET IS WHAT BILL 6 RECOMMENDS. AND WE THINK THAT SH STILL SUPPORTABLE BECAUSE THERE MAY BE EFFICIENCIES THAT WE'RE EXAMPLE PLORSING -- EXPLORING. LELESS THAN NOT GOING TO BE ABLE TO GET THE INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDED TO SUPPORT THE DENSITY THAT IS MANAGED. >>Chair Kia'aina: THANK YOU. MEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS? I'M GOING TO MOVE FORWARD WITH MY RECOMMENDATION. CHAIR RECOMMENDS THAT BILL 6, 2026 CD1 BE RAMMINGS U REPORTED OUT PASSAGE THIRD READING. ANY DISCUSSION? ANY OBJECTIONS OR RESERV RESERVATIONS? HEARING NONE SO ORDERED. MOVING TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 6. FOR ACTION, DID YOU WANT TO SAY SOMETHING? FOR A. BILL 7, 2026, CD1, BILL AMENDS LAND USE ORDINANCE BY MOD MODIFYING SIGN STA STAIN COASTAL HAZARDS FOR THE APARTMENT AND APARTMENT MIXED USE DISTRICT. AMENDMENTS PROPOSED BY THE COUNCIL PROCESSED BY THE DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND PERMITTING, AND PLANNING COMMISSION. COUNCIL PROPOSED BILL 7 BY ADOPTION OF RESOLUTION 24-223, BILL ALLOWS FOR ONE SIGN FOR EACH GROUND FLOOR ESTA ESTABLISHMENT WITH BUILDING FRONTAGE. CURRENTLY OLD ONE SIGN IS ALLOWED. FOR EACH PRINCIPLE PEDESTRIAN OR VEHICULAR ENTRANCE TO THE BUILDING. IF THERE ARE SEVERAL GROUND FLOOR ESTABLISHMENT THAT IS HAVE ADMINISTRATE FRONT AJ, PROPOSED AMENDMENT WOULD ALLOW ALL GROUND FLOOR ESTABL ESTABLISHMENTS STREET TONIGHTAL TO HAVE A SIGN. FRONT TAJIRI. HAVE A D&B FRONT SIGN. 123 SQUARE FEET TO 9 SQUARE FEET. SIM I SIMPLE MAJORITY OF VOTE OF THE COUNCILMEMBERS IS REQUIRED FOR THE BILL TO PASS THIRD READING. ER COUNCILMEMBER TUPOLA. AS INTRODUCED, DO YOU HAVE ANYTHING YOU WOULD LIKE TO ADD? >>Councilmember Tupola: NO. LOOKS GOOD. WE WORKED EXTENSIVELY WITH NOT JUST STAKEHOLDERS WITH DPP AND PLANNING LIQUOR COMMISSION WITH THEIR SUGGESTIONS. EVERYTHING HAS BEEN INPLELDER ARE EVERYBODY AND IMPLEMENTED CONSISTENCY AND LOCAL BUSINESSES, IN 3450EU DISTRICT ARE VERY GRATEFUL. >>Chair Kia'aina: THANK YOU SO MUCH. ABOUT EVERY I CALL UP THE ADMINISTRATION, I WOULD LIKE TO TAKE PUBLIC TESTIMONY. ER PROCEEDING FIRST WITH IN-PERSON TESTIMONY. IN THE CHAMBER. CLERK ANY IN-PERSON TESTI TESTIFIERS? >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, WE HAVE A COUPLE STANDING BY. >>Chair Kia'aina: IN PERSON? >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, YES. >>Chair Kia'aina: FIRST IS LEE TOKIOKA HARA. LEE TOKOHARA DL HAWAII. FULL SUPPORT OF BILL 7. GREAT BILL FOR ALL BUSINESSES ACROSS OUR COUNTY BUT PARTICULARLY AT HO'OPILI WHERE THE COMMUNITIES IS BEING SPECIFICALLY DESIGNED TO INCLUDE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL USES. BILL 7 WILL GIVE SMALL BUSINESSES IN THESE TYPE OF NEIGHBORHOODS THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROPERLY PROMOTE AND ADVOCATE THEIR PRODUCTS AN SERVICES. JUST FINALLY LIKE TO THANK COUNCILMEMBER TUPOLA FOR YOUR LEADERSHIP. IN PUTTING THIS TOGETHER. AND WORKING WITH EVERYONE. AND ALL OF YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. >>Chair Kia'aina: THANK YOU SO MUCH. NEXT TESTIFIER IS KAREN POLK. >>Testifier: GOOD MORNING CHCHAIR KIA'AINA. VICE CHAIR QUAWRS. MEMBERS OFFER COMMITTEE. COUNCILMEMBER. KAPOLEI CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. STAND IN STRONG SUPPORT OF BILL 7. SO MANY BUSINESSES ARE SMALL BUSINESSES THAT ARE IMPACTED BY THIS. THE FEW MEMBERS IN PARTICULAR HO'OPILI THAT ARE GREAT NEED OF HAVING THAT SIGNAGE. SO THIS WILL HELP THEM. AEN IN THE BIG PICTURE, REG REGION, THE WEST OAHU REGION IS REALLY DESIGNED AS LIVE WORK/PLAY. MODEL. AND SO JUST BY DESIGN TO HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO HAVE THIS KIND OF SIGNAGE FUTURE COMMUNITY DEVELOPMENT, WILL BEING JUST GREATLY APPRECIATED AS WELL. BIG PICTURE. SO WE THANK YOU ALSO COUNCILMEMBER TUPOLA, FOR BRINGING THIS FORWARD. AND SINGAPOREING OUR SUPPORTING SMALL BUSINESS. AND SUPPORTING OUR SMALL BUSINESS. MAHALO FOR YOUR TIME. >>Chair Cordero: THANK YOU. I'M SORRY. TO ANYONE ELSE IN THE CHAMBER WOULD LIKE TO TESTIFY? >>Chair Kia'aina: POLICE COME FOR PLEASE COME FORWARD. NONE. ONLINE TESTIFIERS? >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, THERE ARE NONE. >>Chair Kia'aina: THANK YOU SO MUCH. CALM THE ADMINISTRATION. WHERE ARE CALL UP THE ADMINISTRATION. >>Testifier: GOOD MORNING. DPVMENT PP STAFF PLANNER LENA. DPP IN P SUPPORT OF THE CD1ER ARE. >>Chair Kia'aina: DID YOU IDENTIFY AYE SOUR HE HAVE. >>Testifier: YES. YOURSELF. LENA. DPP STAFF PLANNER. >>Chair Kia'aina: OKAY. I DID HAVE JUST A SMALL QUES QUESTION. WERE YOU WAS DPP IN SUPPORT OF THE INCREASING -- DECREASING REDUCE MAXIMUM SIZE OF THE FOR GROUND FLOOR ESTABLISHMENTS FROM 12 FEET TO 9 SQUARE FEET? >>Tes YES. WE'RE IN SUPPORT OF THAT. BASED ON THE PLANNING COMMISSION'S CONCERNS. >>Chair Kia'aina: THAT YOU HAVE TOO MANY OF THE 12 FEET SIGNS. >>Testifier: MORE CONCERNED ON THE 12 SQUARE FEET WOULD BE TOO BIG. GROW MCOMPROMISE 9 SQUAREFEET P. >>Chair Kia'aina: THAT YOU. MEMBERS ANY QUESTIONS FOR DPP? COUNCILMEMBER TUPOLA. >>Councilmember Tupola: MALL SMEFNT. WHEN HE DISCUSSED THE SMALL COMMENT. SIZE THE SIGNS GAIN ME PICK P TTOUR PICTURE OF COUNCILMEMBER WATERS DISTRICT. THIS IS THE SIZE. GOING TO BE UNIFORM ACROSS THE COUNTY WHEN WHAT IT LOOKS L LIKE. EXACTLY WHAT YOU SEE ALONG WAIALAE. SIZE OF IT. THEY SAID THE SIZE WE DISSUGSUGGESTED LITTLE TOO BIG. FEAR NOT. IT WILL BE UNIFORM. IN KAPOLEI. NOT DETER. >>Chair Kia'aina: P WHAT IS THE CURRENT SIZE? >>Testifier: E'O. >>Councilmember Tupola: RIGHT NOW, ALL THEY DO IS LITTLE REAL ESTATE SIGN. OUTSIDE. CANNOT PUT IT UP. >>Chair Kia'aina: GOT IT. ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THIS? IF NOT, CHAIR RECOMMENDS THAT BILL 7, 2026 CD1 BE REPORTED OUT FOR THE PASSAGE THIRD READING. ANY DISCUSSION? ANY OBJECTIONS? RESERVATIONS? HEARING NONE. SO ORDERED. MOVING TO AGENDA ITEM UB U NUMBER 7. INFORMATIONAL BRIEFING. UPDATE BY THE DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND PERMITTING. ON BUILDING PERMIT PROCESS BACKLOG. INCLUDING STATUS OF BUILDING PERMITS APPLICATIONS FOR ROH CHAPTER 32. OR AFFORDABLE RENTAL HOUSING PROJECTS. JOINING US IN THE COUNCIL CHAMBER, IS DAWN TAKEUCHI APUNA. DIRECTOR OF THE DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND PERMITTING. PROVIDING A BRIEF PRESENTATION INCLUDING UPDATE OF THE AMO AMOUNTS POST CONSTRUCTION GRANTS AND PRECONSTRUCTION SUBSIDIES AWARDED TO DATE. FOR ROH CHAPTER 32 PROJECTS. FOR YOUR INFORMATION, PRESENTATION IS AVAILABILITY ON ONLINE AS DEPARTMENTAL COUNCILMEMBER DON DONAHUE--COMMUNICATION 13 136-2026. >>Testifier: THANK YOU CH CHAIR. JUST GETTING THE PRESENTATION SET UP. FONG YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO PROVIDE UPDATE ON BUILDING PERMITTEDEL PROCESS BACKLOG AND STATUS OF BUILD 7 PROJECTS OR CHAPTER 32 PROJECTS. ALL RIGHT. SO FIRST SLIDE, RECALL OTHERS NEXT SLIDE. IS ALL PERMITS CREATED AND ISSUED IN 2025, AND 2026, SO THIS ISN'T JUST BUILDING PERMITS. THIS IS THE FULL RANGE OF 38 PERMITS THAT WE ISSUE ACROSS THE BOARD THROUGHOUT THE DEPARTMENT. LIKE SMAs, GRADING TRENCHING BUILDING. AND SO IT SHOWS THROUGHOUT 2025, AND THEN IN AUGUST, WHEN WE LAUNCHED HNL BUILD, THAT WE DID GET A LARGE AMOUNT OF APPLICATIONS WHICH IS THE BLUE COLUMN, AND THEN THE NUMBER THAT WE'RE ACTUALLY ISSUED IS THE YELLOW. SO ONCE HNL BUILD WAS LAUNCHED, ON AUGUST 4, THERE WASEL SOME STAFF WERE WORKING ON ADJUSTING TO THE NEW SYSTEM, AND SO THERE WERE LESS PERMITS GOING OUT. BUT WE CAUGHT UP SOME RESPECTS SINCE THEN. BUT THERE WAS DEFINITELY A HUGE SPIKE IN SEPTEMBER AND OCTOBER. SO BUILDING PERMITS IN THEMSELVES, THIS IS CHART FROM JANUARY OF 2019, SO THIS IS THE LAST FIVE OR SIX YEARS FROM JANUARY 2019 THROUGH JANUARY 2026. JUST GIVES YOU AND IDEA FOR BUILDING PERMITS ALL TOGETHER WHAT THE HOW MANY WE WERE GETTING IN AND HOW MANY WE WERE ABLE TO ISSUE. BUT SPIKE IN SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER, OF 2 2025 EXCEEDED PRIOR SPIKES BACK IN JULY OR SORRY, SEPTEMBER OF 2023. AND SEPTEMBER 2019. SO EVEN WITH HNL BUILD COMING ONLINE. WE WERE RECEIVING MORE APPLICATIONS. THEN THE NEXT SLIDE, WE BREAK IT DOWN BY RESIDENTIAL VERSUS COMMERCIAL BUILDING PERMITS. EL RECEIVED AND ISSUED. SO ON THE RESIDENTIAL SIDE, I THINK WHAT IS ENCOURAGING IS IS THAT IN 2025, THE GAP BETWEEN APPLICATIONS AND THOSE ISSUED IS NARROW. SO THAT MEANS WE'RE GETTING BETTER AT KEEPING UP WITH WHAT IS COMING IN. AND WE'LL CONTINUE TO WORK TOWARDS THAT. TRY TO MAKE IT AN EVEN BETWEEN THOSE TWO. AND THEN IN COMMERCIAL, WHICH ARE CERTAINLY MORE COMPLEX PROJECTS, THERE STILL A GRANDPA AND I WOULD LEND TH THAT-IS A GAP. LEND THAT TO IN PART HIRING WE STILL HAVE TO HAVE CHALLENGES WITH THE ENGINEERS REVIEW THOSE TYPES OF PROJECTS. THE NEXT SLIDE, SO I THINK WE USED TO GIVE LIKE OVERALL AVERAGE OF OUR BUILDING PERMIT REVIEW TIMES AND I THINK THIS IS BETTER WAY OF LOOKING AT IT. TO GIVE YOU WHAT, THESE ARE THE AVERAGE DAYS FOR EACH OF THE DIFFERENT TIMES OF REVIEW. WE TALKED ABOUT PRESCREEN. COUPLE OF YEARS AGO. HAD THE SIX MONTH PRESCREEN BACKLOG, RIGHT NOW, IT'S 13 DAYS. ABOUT WE HAD SOME FLUCTUATION. AFTER HNL BUILD WAS IMPLEMENTED. BUT OUR RESIDENTIAL CODE REVIEW IS AVERAGE SEVEN DAYS STORMWATER QUALITY WHICH WAS I THINK IT WAS THE UP TO TWO MONTHS OR SO, FOUR DAYS. AND THEN WE ADDED BOARD OF WATER SUPPLY, COUPLE OF THEIR REVIEWS AND HECO. BUT THIS WOULD GIVE YOU KIND OF GENERAL UNDERSTANDING OF AVERAGE DAYS AND THESE ARE ALL RUN CONCURRENTLY. THEY'RE NOT LINEAR. SO BUT ALSO, I WOULD JUST SAY THAT ALL PROJECTS ARE DIFFERENT. IT'S HARD TO SAY WHAT IS AN AVERAGE BUT THIS GHIS YOU IDEA LIKE A GIVES YOU IDEA LIKE SINGLE-FAMILY HOME, THIS IS JUST FOR ONE REVIEW CYCLE. IF YOU GET EVERYTHING RIGHT, YOU COULD BE DONE PROBABLY IN 16 DAYS FOR A REALLY WELL DONE PLAN. BUT IF YOU HAVE TO COME BACK AND ADDRESS COMMENTS YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO START THAT PROCESS AGAIN AND IT WOULD BE SAME REVIEW TIMES APPLIED. SO THAT MULTIPLIES YOUR TIME IN YOUR REVIEW. THE NEXT SLIDE IS COMMERCIAL REVIEW TIME. AGAIN, PRESCREEN IS THE SAME. WE HAVE A BACKLOG IN OUR COMMERCIAL ELECTRICAL REVIEW. THAT AGAIN, IS PARTIALLY CAPACITY. WE ARE USING OUR THIRD-PARTY CONTRACT THAT IS TAKING SOME OF THOSE REVIEWS. SO THAT WE CAN BRING THAT BACKLOG DOWN. BUT BUILDING AND MECHANICAL, NINE AND 15 DAYS, ZONING, TEN, FIRE, SERVE, BOARD OF WATER SUPPLY -- SEVEN, BOARD OF WATER SUPPLY, GREEN, HECO H HDOT, D OH, MIGHT TYPICALLY BE REVIEWED EVES FOR COMMERCIAL PROJECT. REVIEWS FOR. FOR JUST ONE REVIEW CYCLE. THIS NEXT PAGE IS JUST A REMINDER THAT THE APPLICANT HAS THE POWER TO INFLUENCE REVIEW TIMES. THESE ARE JUST SOME EXTREME APPLICATIONS AND WE'RE SHOWING THE TIME WITH DPP VERSUS THE APPLICANT. NUMBER OF REVIEW SCOTT SA SAIKIELS, SO -- CYCLES IT'S IMPORTANT THAT APPLICANTS AND OWNERS LOOK AT IN HNL BUILD WHERE THE TASK IS, IF IT'S IN THERE, IN TH COURT THEY SHOULD RESAW IT AND GET IT BACK QUICKLY. SHOULD REVIEW IT. MAKE THE PROCESS TO MOVE FORWARD. THAT IS BUILDING PERMIT BACKLOG. AND NOW, FOR BILL 7 PROJECTS. WE JUST WANT TO GIVE YOU UPDATE. >>Chair Kia'aina: BEFORE YOU CONTINUE, MEMBERS, DID YOU WANT TO ASK QUESTIONS FIRST ON THE PROCESS OR WOULD YOU LIKE HER TO JUST MOVE FORWARD ON THE BILL 7 PROJECTS? MOVE FORWARD? OKAY. PLEASE PROCEED. >>Testifier: THANK YOU FOR BILL 7 PROBABLY, CURRENTLY 59 TOTAL PROJECTS. SIX HAVE BEEN COMPLETED AND CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY IS ISSUED. SO THEY'RE OCCUPIED. 16 ARE CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION. AND HAVE BUILDING PERMIT. 35 ARE UNDER REVIEW. WE NOTE THAT 28 ARE CURRENTLY WITH APPLICANT AND 7 ARE WITH THE CITY OR OTHER AGENCIES. AND THIS CAN MEAN THAT 1,752 TOTAL UNITS PO IT TENSION AS WELL AS-POTENTIAL AS WELL AS-BUILT. CURRENTLY, WE HAVE ADDED 189 UNITS TO OAHU'S HOUSING STOCK. WITH REGARD TO BILL 7 GRANT, JUST TO IMIB YOU UPDATE. GIVE UP DAY. PRECONSTRUCTION SUBS BY PROGRAM, HAS BEEN SUBSIDY PROGRAM HAS BEEN AROUND FOR A FEW YEARS, WE HAVE I'M SORRY,ER I'M GETTING CONFUSED. THIS HAS BEEN FUNCTIONAL FOR THE LAST COUPLE OF MONTHS. PRECONSTRUCTION SUBSIDY PROGRAM. WE HAVE THREE APPLICATIONS PENDING. AND 0 HAVE BEEN AWARDED BECAUSE WE HAVE RECENTLY OPENED UP THE PROGRAM. FOR POST CONSTRUCTION, WE HAVE AWARDED 6 GRANTS FOR TOTAL OF $1.9 MILLION. SINCE 2022. THE NUMBER OF APPLICATIONS PENDING IS 0. AND JUST LOOKING AT THE TWO GRANT PROGRAMS, WE BELIEVE THAT PREFERRED GRANT BECAUSE CAN YOU ONLY TAKE EITHER/OR, IS THAT PRECONSTRUCTION GRANT. I THINK THEY'RE NOT LOOKING AT POST CONSTRUCTION. UNIT GRANT IS UP TO 50,000. FOR THE PRECONSTRUCTION. WHICH CERTAINLY IS A LOT MORE ATTRACTIVE THAN WHAT IS POTENTIALLY LIKE A $12,000 GRANT. UNDER THE POST CONSTRUCTION. AND I UNDERSTAND THAT HAVING THIS PRECONSTRUCTION GRANT MONEY HELPS FOR FINANCING. SO IT IS VERY HELPFUL FOR THOSE PROJECTS. THIS NEXT SLIDE JUST GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF THOSE THAT HAVE BEEN BUILT. MAXIMUM HEIGHT FOR THOSE DISTRICTS AND ZONING VERSUS NUMBER OF STORIES THAT WERE ACTUALLY BUILT, LAST ONE WITH THE 400 FEET THAT'S KIND OF THAT'S NOT USUAL. ADAPTIVE RESUES E'O USE OF 10 -- REUSE OF 1060 BISHOP STREET. AND AS YOU CAN SEE, FOR THE MOST PART, THEY'RE UNDER THE HEIGHT LIMITS. THIS NEXT SLIDE IS THE MAXIMUM HEIGHT VERSUS NUMBER OF STORIES. AGAIN, THESE A FOR THE ST PROJES WITH BUILDING PERMITS. AND FOR THE MOST PART, MOSTLY UNDER THE BUILDING MASK HEI HEIGHT. BUT THERE'S A FEW --EL MAX HEIGHT. FEW SLIGHTLY ABOVE, THE NEXT SLIDE IS JUST BREAKDOWN OF THE NUMBER OF PROJECTS IN EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT AS WELL AS THE NUMBER OF AFFORDABLE UN UNITS. COUNCIL DISTRICT 5, COUNCILMEMBER NISHIMOTO'S BY FAR HAS THE MOST, 38 PROJECTS. THIS NEXT MAP JUST A HEAT MAP. WHERE THOSE PROJECTS ARE. THROUGHOUT THE ISLAND. AND THEN REST OF THESE SLIDES, THESE ARE JUST FOR YOUR EACH COUNCILMEMBERS KNOWLEDGE OF WHERE THESE PROJECTS ARE WITHIN YOUR DISTRICTS. I'M NOT GOING TO GO THROUGH EACH ONE. BUT GIVES YOU AN IDEA OF THE STATUS OF THE BUILDING PERMIT AND ZONING DISTRICTS, AND THE NUMBER OF UNITS AND THE PROJECT NAME. WITH THAT, THAT IS OUR PRESENTATION. WE'RE HERE FOR ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU. >>Chair Kia'aina: THANK YOU DIRECTOR. I ACTUALLY HAVE SEVERAL QUESTIONS BUT I'M GOING TO OPEN UP TO THE MEMBERS AFTER I JUST RECOMMEND FOR THE YOUR BACKLOG, FIRSTS OF ALL, CLEAR THAT YOU GUYS HAVE MADE A LOT OF PROGRESS. BUT BEFORE YOU HAVE A COMPARISON, OVER A CERTAIN PERIOD, PREVIOUS DATE. >> I THINK IT'S VERY HELPFUL FOR COMPARISON PURPOSES BECAUSE IF YOU WERE TO JUST READ IT LIKE THIS, YOU WOULD HAVE NO IDEA OF COMPARING PROGRESS THAT HAS BEEN MADE. >>Testifier: RIGHT. I THINK THAT DO IT MOVING FORWARD. BECAUSE HNL BUILD IS NOW SUSS MEMORY PULL UNDER DINNER SYSTEM PULLING THIS INFORMATION. THIS WILL BE OUR BASELINE OF THE NUMBERS TODAY WHENEVER WE UPDATE, WE'LL COMPARE TO THE LAST. >>Chair Kia'aina: OH, YEAH BECAUSE THEN THAT'S HOW YOU CAN SHOW THE MEASURED PROG PROGRESS. OKAY? I'M GOING TO ACTUALLY, MAYBE LET ME JUST START OFF WITH ONE QUESTION. RIGHTING TO THE RELATING TO THE PAGE. EL WHERE YOU HAVE A SUMMARY BY ALL OF DISTRICTS. SO I SEE THAT COUNCILMEMBER NISHIMOTO HAS 38. WHICH IS THE BULK OF ALL OF THE UNITS. AND THEN OF COURSE, COUNCILMEMBER TYLER DOS-SANTOS TAM AND THERE'S A HANDFUL IN MINE, AND CHAIR WATERS, AND COUNCILMEMBER WEYER, ONE IN OKAMOTO'S AND NONE IN COUNCILMEMBER TUPOLA'S. COUNCILMEMBER CORDERO AND COUNCILMEMBER TUPOLA DISTRICTS. SO DO YOU KNOW IF THERE IS A, WHAT IS THE EXPLANATION FOR WHY THIS IS? AND IS THERE ANY -- BECAUSE CLEARLY, THEN THIS BILL PROCESS IS NOT BEING UTILIZED IN THESE DISTRICTS. AND SO WHAT DO YOU THINK IS THE BASIS FOR THIS AND ALSO, DO YOU HAVE ANY ENLS RECOMMRREFNLINGSESHOW WE CAN --Y RECOMMENDATIONS HOW WE CAN IMPROVE THIS. >> BECAUSE ZOEING IN THOSE PARTICULAR COUNCIL DISTRICTS. DON'T HAVE THE APARTMENT MIXED USE. BILL 7 IS INTENDED FOR. OF BECAUSE ZONING. PROBABLY WHY THEY'RE NOT, DEVELOPERS AREN'T LOOKING FOR THOSE PARCELS IN THEIR DISTRICTS. >>Chair Kia'aina: MAJORITY ARE RESIDENTIAL? >>Testifier: RESIDENTIAL OR, YEAH, COULD BE OTHER INDUSTRIAL OR, YEAH. >>Chair Kia'aina: OKAY. THANK YOU. SO I'M GOING TO START FIELDING QUESTIONS. COUNCILMEMBER TUPOLA. >>Councilmember Tupola: THANK YOU SO MUCH. ALOHA DIRECTOR. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. TO IS REALLY NICE. I LIKE THE DEPTH OF SOME OF THESE GRAPHS. I CAN SEE SOMEBODY IS INCREASING THEIR KNOWLEDGE OF THESE PRESENTATIONS. LOOKS CLEAN. I THINK CHAIR KIA'AINA FOR ALWAYS HOSTING YOU IN OTHER COMMITTEE. I THINK THAT HAS BEEN THE MOST CONSISTENT FOR ME. IS TO HAVE HER COME HIRAOKALY TO SEE THAT PROCESS. COME REGULARLY. MOVING FORE, RECOMMEND THAT DPP JUST STAY WITH YOUR COMMITTEE BECAUSE I THINK FOR ALL OF US, IT WAS KIND OF BACK AND FORTH, NOW IT'S LIKE SOLID UPDATES. WE REQUEST SEE SOLID PROGRESS. SO QUICK QUESTION, ON THE SPIKE OF SEPTEMBER AND OCT OCTOBER. IS THERE ANY RHYME OR REASON PART OF IT. >>Testifier: OKAY. DEFINITELY. I THINK SOLAR PERMITTING, HAVE DECEMBER DEADLINE. AND THEY NEEDED TO HAVE NOT JUST THE PERMIT IN HAND, THEY HAD TO HAVE SOMETHING ELSE. SO THEY WERE LINING IT UP. THEY NEEDED IT AT -- THAT'S PART OF IT. IT'S NOT A HUGE. WE LOOKED AT KIND OF THE PERCENTAGE. I KNOW COUPLE YEARS AGO, WE SAID SOLAR PERMITTING WAS 60% OF JUST RESIDENTIAL PERMITS. THAT HAS COME DOWN. IT RANGES BETWEEN 40 TO 50%. BUT EVEN DURING THAT ONE SP SPIKE, IT'S A LITTLE BIT HIGHER. BUT IT WASN'T A HUGE. SO SOLAR PERMITTING MAY BE A LITTLE BIT IN SEPTEMBER. OR NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER. BUT I THINK IT'S HNL BUILD. I THINK PEOPLE WERE GETTING USED TO THE SYSTEM. REGISTERING INTO THE SYSTEM. SO THEY HADN'T PUT APPLICATIONS IN. SO THERE WAS A LITTLE LAG. AND THEN OKAY, NOW WE CAN APPLY. >>Councilmember Tupola: ARE YOU GUYS STILL DOING THE WORK. >>COUNCILMEMBER ANDERSON: SOLAR PERMITS WITH HNL BUILD BECAUSE IT WASN'T REALLY WORKING WELL FOR THE SOLAR DEVELOP VERLS. IS IT BETTER NOW, DEVELOPERS. GO DIRECT LYNN ON THE WEB HE WEBSITE? >>Testifier: YES. EXACTLY. ONE OF THE ISSUES THAT CAME UP WHEN WE LAUNCH HNL BUILD. WE LOOKED AT THE IT. FIX FEUSMED EVERYTHING AND RUNNING AS-FIXED EVERYTHING AND ROPING SMOOTHLY AS IT HAD BEEN AUTOMATIC QUICK PERMIT. >>Councilmember Tupola: DO YOU GUYS HAVE SUGGESTION FOREST BUILDING PERMITTER REVIEW SEEING ELECTRICAL ONE IS SO HIGH? >>Testifier: YEAH. THAT ONE, AGAIN, WE ARE GIVING OUR THIRD-PARTY REVIEWER A LOT OF THOSE PROJECTS. I'M HAVING STAFF REALLY LOOK AT PUSHING HIRING. IT A CAPACITY ISSUE. WE'RE STILL BELOW 50% THERE. BUT YEAH. IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS. GOOD WE'RE LOOKING AT WHERE THE SPIKES ARE AND TRYING TO REALLY FOCUS IN ON HOW TO ADDRESS THOSE. >>Vice Chair Waters: >>Councilmember Tupola: GREAT. DATA CAN DIAGNOSE. I'M GLAD ON THAT. ON THE NEXT PAGE, YOU SAID THAT THERE IS EMAILS THAT GO TO REMIND PEOPLE THAT MAYBE THERE AN ITEM IN THEIR POSSESSION. ARE THOSE AUTOMATED EMAILS OR STAFF EMAILING IT OUT? >>Testifier: I BELIEVE AUTOMATED. AND I WOULD JUST LIKE TO ADD, WE DIDN'T INCLUDE THIS. NOW, WITHIN HNL BUILD, ANYONE, ANYONE CAN GO INTO HNL BUILD AND LOOK AT ACTIVE PERMIT, DON'T HAVE TO BE THAT APPLICANT OR THE OWNER. AND THEY CAN SEE WHAT THE CURRENT TASKS ARE. AND I THINK THIS IS IMPORTANT SO THAT YOU GUYS GET CALLS ALL THE TIME ABOUT WHERE MY PERMIT IS. WE'RE GOING TO EXPAND THAT TO SHOW MORE ABOUT HOW MUCH TIMES BEEN. BUT RIGHT NOW, YOU CAN LOOK AT WHERE THE TASK IS. >>Councilmember Tupola: THAT HAS BEEN SO HELPFUL. I CAN'T EMPHASIZE HOW MANY PEOPLE I'VE HAD SAY THANK GOODNESS I CAN SEE THE PROGRESS MYSELF. PRIOR TO THIS, IT WAS ONLY ARCHITECT OR WHOEVER SUBMITTED. NNOW, ANYBODY INCLUDING OWNER OF THE PROPERTY BECAUSE PEOPLE GET ASKED QUESTIONS. AND THEY ONLY HAVE ONE PERSON. SOMETIMES UNFORTUNATELY, SOMEBODY PASSES AWAY OR SOMEBODY HE MOVERS NO ONE HAS ANY IDEA WHERE THE PROGRESS OF THE PERMIT IS. THIS IS MUCH MORE TRANSPARENT. CONGRATULATIONS ON THAT. >>Testifier: THANK YOU. I WOULD LIKE TO MENTION WE SAID APPLICANTS. YOU CAN NOW ADD THE OWNER. THAT WAS MAJOR THING. BUT WE DIDN'T FIND THAT THEY WERE ADDING OWNERS. SO WE JUST SAY, LET'S JUST OPEN IT UP. SO THAT ANYONE, ANYONE CAN JUST GO TO THE HNL BUILD, WEBSITE AND PUT IN AN ADDRESS AND SEE WHERE THINGS ARE AT. I THINK THAT IS NO MORE GATE KEEPING. LET EVERYONE SEE. >>Councilmember Tupola: AS LONG AS IT'S NOT ON US AND THEY'RE ABLE TO DO IT. I'M GOOD WITH THAT. GRAPH ABOUT THE MAX T VERSUS NUR OF STORY. DO YOU MEAN FEET HIGH? 311PUHUI PLACE, IT SAYS 50. THE MAX HEIGHT IS 40. IT'S FOR NOT STORIES RIGHT? IT'S NOT 50 STORIES. >>Testifier: IT'S HEIGHT. YES. FEET. TUPOLA LASTLY. THANK YOU FOR THIS TIME. I WANTED TO SAY THAT I'M GLAD YOU OUTLINED IT DISTRICTS. I WILL SAY THAT FOR MANY OF THE EDIT THAT IS I'M DOING, FOR THE BILL THATTHAT'S GOING TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE CHAPTER 32, I REALLY LEANED ON COUNCILMEMBER NISHIMOTO OF THE GET GEGHT IT HARDEST AS FAR AS FEEDBACK FROM CONSTITUENTS. AND I THINK ULTIMATELY, THIS PROGRAM ARE WAS GEARED TOWARDS AREA BUILT LIKE THAT. AND THEREFORE, THAT'S WHY I DON'T HAVE ANY IN MY DISTRICT. WANTED TO OPEN I WILL SAY THAT I DO HEAR HIM AND HIS SCWINTS CONSTITUENTS IN THE REALM THAT I HAVE RESPONSIBILITIES. BUT REALLY, THE LARGEST BULK OF THIS IS GOING TO BE PROBABLY REMAIN IN HIS DISTRICT. THANK YOU SO MUCH DIRECTOR ADD THANK YOU CHAIR. >>Testifier: THANK YOU. >>Chair Kia'aina: WHILE YOU'RE ON THAT TOPIC MOVIE MOVE TO THE NEXT COUNCI COUNCILMEMBER, I THINK IT WOULD BE HELPFUL BECAUSE WE HAVE TO GO BACK, COULD YOU PUT IN THE FUTURE, UNLESS SUMMARY OF THE DISTRICTS, COUNCILMEMBER. BECAUSE. >>Testifier: HIGHWAY TO LOOK THAT UP TOO. SORRY ABOUT THAT. I HAD TO. >>Chair Kia'aina: MY DISTRICT I HAVE TO GENERAL OBCROSSREFERENCE. MAKE IT EASI. THIS IS NOT JUST ABOUT US. ABOUT THE GENERAL PUBLIC AND I FEEL LIKE, THESE ARE VERY USEFUL INFORMATION. ER FOR PEOPLE. START GETTING EDUCATED INCLUDING, ALL OF THE ADVOCATES FOR OR AGAINST BILL 7 PROJECTS P ONE OF THE REA REASONS I THINK THIS WOULD HELP. PROJECT 7 PROJECTS. NOT JUST TO GET UPDATE ON THE BACKLOG, BUT TO UNDERSTANDING R UNDERSTAND THAT ARE AGAINST THERE BACKDROP WE HAVE PROGRAM THAT CLEARLY IS TOP PRIORITY. FFOR THE ADMINISTRATION. MANY MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL. AND WHO WOULD LIKE TO SEE VERY EFFICIENT PROCESS. WE WOULD LIKE TO JUST SEE WHERE THEY ARE. SO THAT AT THE CAN BETTER UNDERSTAND AS WE'RE DEVELOPING POLICY. HOW TO MOVE FORWARD. OTHER MEMBERS? COUNCILMEMBER OKIMOTO. ER. >>Councilmember Okimoto: THANK YOU. GOOD MORNING DIRECT. THANK YOU SO MUCH. I KIND OF WANTED TO DO GO ALONG IT'S LINES SIMILAR QUESTIONS. REGARDING THE APPLICATION PROCESS. YOU KIND OF ANSWERED SOME OF WHAT I WANTED TO ASK. WHEN WE GET CONCERNS FROM THE CONSISTENCY, ADD YOU'RE SAYING NOW THIS THEY HAVE MORE AUTHORITY OR ACCESS TO THEIR OWN PERMITS, WHAT CAN WE DO TO HELP YOU GUYS? I'M SURE YOU'RE BOMBARDED WE GET ASKED ALL THE TIME.ERR WE GO FOR YOU GUYS. HOW CAN WE HELP EDUCATE THEM, YOU HAVE HERE, YOU'RE TELLING THEM, TELLING THEIR APPLICANTS TO TELL OWNERS AND WORK TOGETHER. BUT IT SEEMS LIKE MAYBE THAT IS NOT HA NOT HAPPENING AS FUSHS WE HOPE. >> DO BETTER JOB OF JUST SAYING. EFFICIENTLY) WHAT ARE THE ST STEP? MOST ALI'I WOULD SAY TELL YOURER CONSTITUENTS TO GO TO, OUR HNL BUILD PORTAL. AND THEY DON'T EVEN HAVE TO REGISTER. TO DO SOME KEY SEARCHES AND COULD PUT IN ADDRESS. SO WE CAN PROBABLY COME UP WITH A VERY EASY STEP-BY-STEP GO HERE, PUT THIS IN, AND THIS IS WHERE YOU'LL SEE THE TASK. AND THAT INFORMATION. I THINK GO TO THE HNL BUILD PPORTAL. >>Councilmember Okimoto: IS THERE A GRAPHIC? TEND TO ALL USE SOCIAL MEDIA. DPP HAS THIS INFORMATION. WE COULD SHARE IT. I KNOW WE TEND TO DO-O THAT WITH OTHER DEPARTMENTS. POST SOMETHING, A LOT OF US WILL SHARE IT. SOMETHING LIKE THAT FOR YOU GUYS THAT WE COULD GET OUT. >>Testifier: WHY. WE CAN PROVIDE WE'LL GIVE YOU LINK THAT YOU CAN FORWARD, TO IT'S SET UP ON WEB PAGE. LINK TO THE PERFECT PORTAL. -PORTAL. GIVE YOU STEP-BY-STEP AND LIVINGS SO YOU CAN FORWARD IT TO CONSTITUENTS. >>Councilmember Okimoto: THAT YOU. MIGHT BE MY LAST ONE. ON THE FIRST GRAPH, MAYBE I'M READING IT WRONG, IT PERMITS CREATED AND ISSUED IN 2025, YOU MAY HAVE EXPLAINED THIS. I'M LOOKING AT IT, YOU W WERE A ABLE TO YOU HAVE THE BLUE, WHICH IS CREATE, COME DOWN. ORANGE ISSUED, HAS DECLINED AS WELL. SO AM I READING THAT WRONG? WITH THE HNL BUILD, PERMIT BEING ISSUED HAVE DECREASED AT THE SAME TIME? INSTEAD -- I WOULD THINK THEY WHERE SOME POINT KIND OF BALANCE OUT. >>Testifier: I THINK THERE HAS BEEN SOME, BECAUSE OF THE IMPLEMENTATION OF HNL BUILD, THERE HAS CERTAINLY BLNR ADJUSTMENTS ON THE STAFF SIDE. TO REVIEW -- HAS BEEN) THIS IS EXPECTED, TO SOME DEGREE. SLOW DOWN AND AS WE CONTINUE TO REFINE THIS SYSTEM. STAFF GETTING USED TO IT. SO THAT IS PART OF IT. I WOULD SAY THIS FIRST AGAIN, THIS FIRST SLIDE IS ALL PERMIT IS NOT JUST BUILDING. SO THERE'S DIFFERENT LEAD TIMES. AND SMA PERMIT IS DIFFERENT THAN BUILDING PERMIT. SO IT'S DIFFERENT FACTORS. BUT OUR GOAL CERTAINLY TO BRING IT CLOSER AND I THINK YOU'LL SEE THAT IN THE NEXT YEAR OR SO. WE'RE GOING TO BE ABLE TO CATCH UP. AND GAIN TRACKS. NOW THAT THE NEW SYSTEM IS IN PLACE. >>Councilmember Okimoto: YOU DID MENTION THAT, 38 TYPE OF ALL. AND ON YOUR TWO PAGES AFTER YOU SHOWED, IN THE RESID RESIDENTIAL, VERSUS COMME COMMERCIAL, LIP-READ REALLY BIG GAINS. MADE REALLY BIG BE GAINS. DIFFERENT TIMES OF PERMITS HOW MUCH TIME ARE YOU SPENDING OUT OF THE 38 TYPES OF PERMITS HOW MUCH TIME IS SPENT IN THE RESIDENTIAL, SEEMS LIKE COMMERCIAL STILL HAS THEIR, BECAUSE OF THE LAYERS THAT YOU HAVE TWO THROUGH. OF THE 38, HOW MUCH TIME IS BEING SPENT ON THE I GUESS RESIDENTIAL OR WE GET A LOT OF THE CONCERNS FROM? >>Testifier: SO THAT ONE SLIDE WITH THE RESIDENTIAL AND COMMERCIAL, THAT IS JUST BUILDING PERMITS. THAT IS NOT ALL THE OTHER TYPES OF APPROVALS. THAT WE DO. AND THEN THIS NEXT SLIDE, THIS IS JUST I THINK PRESCREEN IS BEFORE ALL THE OTHER REVIEWS. DIDN'T SAY THAT EARLIER. PRESCREEN YOU MUST DO BEFORE IT GOES INTO ALL OF THESE CODE REVIEWS THAT ARE LISTED BELOW. AND SO THE ONES BELOW, PRESCREEN, RUN COUNCIL CURRENTLY. SO -- CONCURRENTLY. AGAIN FIRST REVIEW SHOULD TAKE MAYBE UP TO 16 DAYS. AND IF YOU GET EVERYTHING IS GOOD AND WE APPROVE IT, YOU'RE DONE. BUT IF THERE IS YOU COMMENTS, IT WILL COME BACK AND YOU WILL BEGIN THESE CYCLES AGAIN. SO DEEMEDS ON THE TYPE OF PROJECTS. DEPENDS, QUALITY OF THE APPLICATION, BUT THIS IS WHAT WE'RE SHOOTING FOR. EVEN WITH OUR AI, THIS HELPING THESE PLANS AND APPLICATIONS THAT COME IN READY SO IT COMES CLOSER TO JUST ONE REVIEW CYCLE. THAT IS EXCITING TO. >>Councilmember Okimoto: WANT TO THANK YOU. I KNOW REMEMBER BACK WHEN COUNCILMEMBER CHAIR, KIA'AINA, HAD YOU COMING IN FOR PLANNING WHEN IT IT WAS JUST PLANNING COMMITTEE AND SHARE THINGS WITH US. SINCE HNL BUILD STARTED AUGUST OF THIS LAST YEAR,ER SAID THAT WE HAVE TO ADJUST, HAVE YOU SEEN THE PROGRESS AND AN ADJUSTMENTS MOVING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION? >>Testifier: YES. I THINK SO. I THINK SO. I MEAN, AT THAT TAKES TIME FOR DIFFERENT LEVELS OF DIFFERENT TYPES OF FOR PEOPLE TO JUST GET USED TO THE SYSTEM. A LOT OF THEM HAVE BEEN WITH POSSE FOR WHOLE, MOST OF THEM, WITH POSSE WHOLE CAREER. SO IT TAKES THEM GETTING USED TO AND BUT I THINK EVERY DAY, WE'RE GETTINGING MORE COMFORTABLE WITH THE SYSTEM. >>Councilmember Okimoto: THANK YOU THANK YOU FOR ALL OF YOUR EFFORTS. THANK YOU CHAIR. >>Chair Kia'aina: THANK YOU. OTHER MEMBERS BEFORE I ASK FURTHER U FURTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILMEMBER DOS SANTOS-TAM. >>Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: THANK YOU WOULD LIKE TO START WITH, HNL BUILD. I KNOW WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A LITTLE BIT OF DISCUSSION IN GOVERNMENT EFFICIENCY LATER. TODAY ABOUT THIS. AS WE WORK TO IMPROVE HNL BUILD, I'LL NOTE IN THE OLD SYSTEM, OLD PERMITSING SYSTEM PHYSICAL E'O VISIBLE TO THE P UB LILIUOKALANI SEE THE NUMBER OF OTHER DETAILS. PUBLIC. FLOOR AREAS OF BUILDING, THE NUMBER OF URINE IS, OCCUPANCY CODE, UNITS. TYPE OF WORK RAPA NUI AN IF OFF. HNL BUILD ONLY GET 8 OR 9 INDIVIDUAL DATA POINTS TOTAL VALUATION. CAN WE ADD SOME OF THOSE THINGS IN FOR THE VISIBILITY OF PUBLIC? >>Testifier: YES. THAT WOULD BE PART OF T THE ENHANCEMENTS. THAT WE CAN ADD IN ORDER, YEAH. TO MAKE SENSE THAT PEOPLE HELPFUL THEN WE CAN ADD THOSE THINGS. >>Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: NOW I WANT TO T DIGITAL DIN SOME OF THE QUESTIONS COUNCILMEMBER OKIMOTO STARTED WITH RALLIED U REGARD TO BUILDING PERMITS. LOOK AT THIS CHART ON THE SCREEN, STARTING WITH THIS, IF WE ARE GOING TO CLEAR THE BACKLOG, IDEA IS THAT NUMBER OF PERMITS ISSUED SHOULD MATCH OR EXCEED NUMBER YOU EVER CREATE. I UNDERSTAND ALONG THE WAY, SOME PEOPLE CANCEL THEM. LOOKING AT NUMBERS OF BOTTOM, IF YOU CONVERT THOSE TO PERCENTAGES, WE START OFF AT THE LEFT, 87% OF PERMITS CREATED THAT YEAR. ROUGHLY RESULTS IN BEING ISSUED. 84% FOR 2021. 69% IN 2022. 7 8% 2023. 92% IN 2024. THAT'S GREAT. EL 2% IN 2025. AND 76% IN 2026 THUS FAR. 82% IN 2025. OCCURS TO ME THAT IERNT HOW MANY PERMITS GET CANCELED. NEVER GETTING THE ORANGE LINE AND BLUE LINE CLOSER, WE'RE ALWAYS GOING TO HAVED AT AD TO THE BACKLOG. IS THAT ACCURATE KIND OF DIE PICKS WHAT'S GOING ON HERE? DEPICTION OF WHAT'S GOING ON HERE. >>Testifier: IT IS A BEING RAT THAT, YES. IF WE'RE NOT ABLE TO LEVEL UP ACT LOG IS CARRYING OVER, BUT AGAIN, THAT IS OUR COMPLETE GEENA THIELEN. GAMBLING LOG) COMPLETE GOAL. ISSUE AS MANY PERMITS AS THEY'RE COMING IN OR TO EXCEED THAT. OR CERTAINLY TO EXCEED THAT. WE WOULD LIKE TO BE AHEAD OF THE GAME. AND THAT IS THE DIRECTION THAT WE'RE TODAY. >>Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: LIKE GO TO THE SLIDE BEFORE THIS. WHICH IS THE LARGE BAR CHARTS HERE AND THIS IS JUST SNAPSHOT OF 2025. SINCE BEGINNING OF 2026. IF WE APPLY THAT SAME IDEA HERE, IN THE FIRST FIVE MONTHS OF THE CHART, JARCH THROUGH MAY, JANUARY. 86%, CLEARANCE RATE TOTAL ALL THE NUMBERS. IF YOU LOOK AT LAST FIVE, MONTHS, ON THE CHART, OCTOBER THROUGH FEBRUARY, ONLY ABOUT 74%. ARE WE IS BACKLOG GROWING? >>Testifier: I THINK THAT I GUESS COULD YOU TERM THAT IT IS GROWING. BUT I THINK IT IS BECAUSE OF THE IMPLEMENTATION. IT IS ADJUSTMENT. SO IT IS EXPECTED AND WE KNOW THAT WE'RE NOT JUST GOING TO, WE NEED TO CATCH UP. AND WE NEED TO EVEN GO BE BETTER THAN THAT. IS TO EXCEED NUMBER OF THAT ARE COMING IN. >>Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: YOU THINK THESE ARE ALL, IF YOU GO TWO MORE SLIDES FORWARD. NEXT BIG BAR CHART. RESIDENTIAL VERSUS COMMERCIAL. I AM LITTLE CONCERNED THAT THE COMMERCIAL SIDE PERMITS, GAPS SEEM TO BE BIGGER. MIGHT BE A SCALE ISSUE. GIVEN FEWER COMMERCIAL ONES. BAR H-2S LOOK A LITTLE BIT OFF. BUT BAR CHARTS, CAN YOU TALK ABOUT WHY THE COMMERCIAL PERMITS, THE PERCENTAGE GAP BETWEEN CREATED AND ISSUED SEEMS BIGGER AND IS BIGGER THAN THE GAP BETWEEN RESIDENTIAL PERMITS BEING ISSUED, ARE WE SIMPLY ADDING TO THE COMMERCIAL BACKLOG A LOT MORE THAN THAT RESIDENTIAL BACKLOG? >>Testifier: WELL, AGAIN, I THINK THIS IS CAPACITY ISSUE. ENGINEER HIRING, HAS ALWAYS BEEN A CHALLENGE. WE ASK FOR ENOUGH POSITIONS BACK IN 2021, AND WE GOT THOSE. BUT WE HAVE NOT BEEN ABLE TO FILL THEM. I THINK THAT'S BEEN KEY. ISSUE. THE BACKLOG I MEAN WE HAVE TO LOOK AT THE OVERALL WHAT THE BACKLOG WOULD N MEAN. BUT AGAIN, YOU'RE CORRECT. CHARACTERIZATION OF COMMERCIAL IS VERY DIFFERENT THAN SINGLE FAMILY ASEL COMPLEXITY. BUT WE WOULD HAVE TO LOOK AT THE DATA W COPROBABLY LOOK FURTHER BACK AS WELL AND AS ACTUAL NUMBER OF HOW MANY ARE. LOOK FURTHER BACK. >>Chair Kia'aina: THAT WOULD BE HELPFUL DIG INTO THIS. >>Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: SIMPLY PRESENTS AVERAGE METROPOLITAN EP HAD HE HELPMILLION METRIC. FLOOD IT WITH SOLAR PERMITS A QUICKLY APPROVE, BRINGS DOWN AVERAGE DOESN'T HELP THE PERSON WAITING FOR MORE COMPLICATED PROJECT. BEEN WAITING 200 DAYS OR WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE. I WILL MAKE ONE COMPLEMENT ON THIS CHART. 2025, RESIDENTIAL, THE IT'S VERY CLOSE. ONLY A GAP OF 400. THAT'S GREAT. I THINK THAT IS GOOD SIGN. HOPEFULLY, IN 2026, KEEP THAT MOVING FORWARD. WITH YOUR INDULGENCE, ONE MORE SLIDE THAT I WANT TO DIG INTO. >>Chair Kia'aina: SURE. MOVE FORWARD. WE'LL CIRCULATE. >>Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: MOVE FORWARD TO THE NEXT I THINK TWO MORE SLIDES. BIG RED MAYBE ONE MORE. THERE WE GO. BIG RED CHART. APPRECIATE THAT SLIDE. I UNDERSTAND THAT SOMETIMES IT GOES BACK TO THE APPLICANT. IF YOU LOOK AT THESE APPLICATIONS WE'RE TAKING A LONG TIME, FOURTH ONE DOWN THE LEAST IS BOARD OF WATER SUPPLY PROJECT. SOLAR. ON BOARD OF WATER SUPPLY PROJECT. WHY WOULD THE CITY'S OWN AGENCY WHERE WE CAN CONTRACT OUT, BEST ENGINEERSERS AND ARCHITECTS AND EVERYONE ELSE, WHY IS CITY PROJECT TAKING 163 DAYS WITH DPP AND 572 DAYS WITH THE APPLICANT? >>Testifier: I MEAN. I THINK ALL PROJECTS, IT'S THE E SAMIER CONSULTANTS. NOT I DON'T THINK THERE IS ANYTHING FUNDAMENTALLY DIFFERENT. BETWEEN A PRIVATE PROJECT AND GOVERNMENT PROJECT. SAME CONSULTANT. DIFFERENT PROFESSORS WORKING ONEN IT COULD BE CULLEN CONSULTANTS OUTSIDE OF THE CITYRY. CONSULTANTS DON'T THINK I NECESSARILY SEE CITY PROJECT OR STATE PROJECTS O BEING ANY BETTER AT, CREATING PLANS. SO I REALLY, YEAH. >>Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: FIRST FUNDRAISING IT HERE IS YOU TAKE THE TOTAL OF THIS AND IT'S, TWO YEARS. AND WE BUDGET MONEY THAT WE SPEND ON CONSULTANTS AN ENGINEERS AND A ARC ARNGHTS BUDGET MON MONDAY FOR CON CONSTRUCTION. ARCHITECTINGS. PROCESS TAKES, SITTING DPP FOR FEW MONTHS AND SITS WITH THE ARCHITECTS ENGINEER, THAT'S, CITY MONEY THAT IS LOCKED UP. NOT BEING SPENT ON THINGS THAT WE NEED. SAME THING WITH THE FOLLOWING PROJECTS. 2023 PROJECT STATE PROJECT. BATHROOMS HOKULANI ELEMENTARY SCHOOL. VERY FIRST PROJECT, ON THE LIST, 2019, NEW AWNING AND A C FOR RESTAURANT. IN MANOA. $15,000. THE TOTAL PROJECTS $15,000. TAKES BETWEEN EVERYBODY I MEAN, THIS LENGTH OF TIME, WHY WOULD AWNING AND A. C ON OUR RESTAURANT TAKE 142 DAYS WITH COMPANY U DPP PUT AGO SIDE AAPPLICANT'S SIDE. >>Testifier: MUST BE STLUK RSTRUGGLE RAIL ISSUE. -- STRUCTURAL ISSUE. I THINK THIS SLIDE SHOWS YOUER I THINK THAT THERE'S A LOT OF TIME WITH THE APPLICANT. WHETHER THEY'RE WORKING ON IT OR THEY'RE SILGT SITTING ON IT NUMBER OF REVIEW CYCLES ARE TELLING TOO, YEAH, STATE PROJECTS THEY COULD ACTUALLY EXEMPT THEMSELVES. FROM OUR REVIEW AND THEY DON'T R WHATEVER REASON. WE TALKED TO THEM ABOUT THAT. BUT-. PLAYS A PART. I WOULD JUST SAY THAT., NOT JUST DPP, AND APPLICANT,ER CONSULTANTS, EVERYONE. SO EVERYONE CAN HELP SHORTEN THAT TIME. >>Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: THANK YOU. >>Chair Kia'aina: THANK YOU. BEFORE I MOVE TO NEXT COUNCILMEMBER, I DID WANT TO SAY, WITH REGARD TO THE DEPARTMENT OF HAWAIIAN HOME LANDS I KNOW THAT THEY ARE TRYING TO SELF-CERTIFY. HOPEFULLY, NONE OF THEIR PROJECTS ARE MOVING THROUGH THE PROCESS. CORRECT? >>Testifier: I SEE ONE OR TWO. MAYBE LIKE WHEN I DO SEE DHHL, THAT ARE YEAH. WE WORK WHEN WE MEET WITH KALI ABOUT HELPING THEM GET WHAT NEEDS TO BE DONE. THEY CERTAINLY HAVE THOSE TO TOOLS OR THEY CAN -- >>Chair Cordero: YES. SO WHATEVER YOU COULD DO TO WORK WITH THE TROOMENT STATE AUTAPPROPRIATE STATE AUTHORITIES TO HAVE OTHER AGENCIES, ALSO TAKE THAT ROUTE, WOULD BE APPRECIATED. >>Chair Kia'aina: NEXT MEMBER. BEFORE I ASK COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. COUNCILMEMBER WATERS? COUNCILMEMBER CORDERO? OKAY. JUST COUPLE OF QUESTIONS. FIRST, ADAPTIVE REUSE PROJECTS. I GET ASKED ABOUT THAT A LOT. WITHIN THE BILL 7, PROJECTS, ARE THERE ANY CURRENTLY UNDER CONSTRUCTION FOR REVIEW? >>Testifier: ADAPTIVE REUSE PROJECTS OR NO? >>Testifier: NOT THAT I KNOW OF. BUT I COULD BE WRONG. I DON'T THINK SO. >>Chair Kia'aina: OKAY. SO ALONG THOSE LINES ARE GUESS I WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT IF THERE ARE ANY IMPEDIMENTS TO THE PROGRAM, FOR SUCH PROG PROGRAMS, THAT YOUR STAFF TAKE A LOOK AT IT BECAUSE THE WHOLE IDEA IS TO HAVE BOTH NEW BUILDINGS AND PROJECTS REUSE PROJECTS. YOUR PRESENTATION, THIS ALREADY ALL RELATING TO BILL 7 MANY YOU TALKED ABOUT POST CONSTRUCTION GRANT PROGRAM. LOSING STEAM AND FOCUSING PRECONSTRUCTION GRANT. CAN YOU EXPLAIN THAT A LITTLE FURTHER? WHAT REQUEST WOULD THEY BE WILL LOSING STEAM FOR THE POST CONSTRUCTION? >>Testifier: SO YOU CAN EITHER TAKE A PRECONSTRUCTION GRANT OR POST. YOU CAN'T TAKE BOTH. IT'S JUST M MORE ATTRACTIVE. PRECONSTRUCTION I THINK TO THE DEVELOPER. BECAUSE THEY HAVE THAT SET OR KNOW WHAT KIND OF MONEY THEY HAVE FOR PRECON PRECONSTRUCTIONT TO FINANCE THE PROJECT. TO SHOW UNDER LE LEND LENDERS AD AMOUNT IS UP TO 50,000. SHOW ENDERS. UP TO 50,000 PER I DON'T KNOW VERSUS I THINK POST CONSTRUCTION, DIFFERENT CALCULATION. BUT 12,000 PER UNIT. MORE GRANT MONEY IS BETTER. >>Chair Kia'aina: SO WITH YOU A U LAUNCHING THE PRECONSTRUCTION, YOU'RE ANTICIPATING INCREASE AND APPLICANTS AND ARE YOU BEING TO HAVE SUFFICIENT FUNDS, THEY HAVE SUFFICIENT FUNDS NOW AND UPCOMING BUDGET, WHAT ARE YOU ON ANTICIPATING. >>Testifier: WE ARE ANTICIPATING ABOUT $4 MILLION FOR THE NEXT FISCAL YEAR. WE HAVE ENOUGH FOR THIS YEAR. SO THAT'S JUST BASED ON THE NUMBERS THAT WE HAVE. BUT WE THINK WE'LL BE FINE. TO PROVIDE THE GRANT MONEY TO ANY OF THE PRECONSTRUCTION OR POST CONSTRUCTION GRANTS C APPLICATIONINGS COME INTO. >>Chair Kia'aina: BIG PICTURE BILL 7 PROGRAM WAS INITIALLY ESTABLISHED. WHAT WAS THE ANTICIPATED AMOUNT OF UNITS THAT WE WERE THINKING ABOUT THAT IT WILL PROVIDE AND NOW THAT WE HAVE BEEN IN THE THROWS OF COUPLE OF YEARS, I'M JUST WONDERING WHAT YOU SEE AS THE POTENTIAL FOR ADDITIONAL PROJECTS OVER UNTIL THE EXPIRATION OF THE PROGRAM? I'M JUST TRYING TO LOOK AT NUMBERS BECAUSE BY THE WAY, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR THIS DATA. BECAUSE IT'S JUST VERY HELPFUL FOR US. CAN YOU ANSWER THAT? >>Tes WHAT WAS THE THOUGHTS IN THE BEGINNING AND WHAT DO YOU ENVISION THE LONG RUN AS THE MAXIMUM UNIVERSE OF UNITS THAT WOULD BE PRODUCED BY BILL 7 PROJECTS? >>Testifier: I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE GOAL IS NEW UNIT NUMBER U NUMBER IS. I THINK IT WAS JUST TO ADDRESS THE TYPES OF PARCELS THAT THEY COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF. INFILL DEVELOPMENT IN THESE AREAS. TO REDEVELOPEL AGING APARTMENTS. OR FOR SMALLER TYPE DEVELOPMENTS. AND AS FAR AS MOVING FORWARD, I DO THINK THAT IT WAS A LITTLE BIT DIFFICULT NEW BEGINNING TO GET EVERYONE ON THE SAME PAGE. WHEN IT CAME TO THE BUILDING PERMIT ITSELF. BUT AT THIS POINT, I THINK IT'S GOTTEN BETTER AND AS WE CAN SEA GRANT AS SOON AS WE OPEN IT UP, WE CAN QUICKLY GOT APPLICATIONS AD HAVE A STEADY FLOW AS THEY PROJECTS GO THROUGH AND MORE PEOPLE DECIDE TO APPLY. >>Chair Kia'aina: THANK YOU. IN THAT VEIN, CAN I ASK IF YOU HAVE SUFFICIENT RESOURCES STAFFING TO BE ABLE TO ADMINISTER THE PROGRAM? >>Testifier: FOR THE GRANTS, YES. WE'RE WORKING WITH BFS. AS FAR AS THE PERMITTING, I THINK IT GOES BACK TO THE ENGINEERS. BECAUSE THEY ARE THE ONES THAT ARE REVIEWING BILL 7 AND THAT IS WHERE WE STILL HAVE VACANCY TRYING TO FOCUS ON THAT. JUST FILLING THOSE VACANCIES. SO THEY CAN REVIEW BILL 7 PROJECTS. BESIDES ALL OTHER BUILDING PERMITS. >>Chair Kia'aina: NG THANK YOU. JUST SO I CAN VOLUNT SHARE WITH MEMBERS, SPEED TASK FORCE THAT WAS ESTABLISHED BY THE LEGISLATURE, BOTH DIRECTOR AN MYSELF ARE ON IT AND ONE OF THEIR PRIORITIES WAS TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO HAVE THE PERMITTING PROCESS BE MORE EFFICIENT. AND THE ISSUE OF SCHOLARSHIPS CAME UP AND BUT I HAD SAID THAT LOAN FORGIVENESS IS EQUALLY IMPORTANT. AS SCHOLARSHIPS. TO TRY TO INCENTIVIZE PEOPLE TO COME. SO UPCOMING BUDGET. I WILL BE PROPOSING SET AMOUNT OF FUNDS SO THAT THEY COULD SECURE ENGINEERS WHO WOULD OTHERWISE BE GOING TO THE PRIVATE SELLING SEEK ENT ENTER--ST-STICKER AND LOAN FORGIVENESS PROGRAM BE CONDITIONED ON THEM STAYING AT THE DPP FOR THE RECRY WIT NUMBER OF YEARS. REQUISITE NURVE YEARS. LAST QUESTION HAS TO DO WITH NOTIFICATION TOO NEIGHBORHOOD BOARDS. SEEMS TO BE, POPULAR TOPIC AN MULTITUDE OF DIFFERENT PROJECTS. I HAVE TO TELL YOU, UNTIL I GOT THIS MATRIX, WHICH I HAD ASKED GREATLY APPRECIATED, AND I'M PRETTY SURE THAT IF OTHER MEMBERS HAD WANTED, THIS MATRIX, YOU CAN ASK DPP, SHOWS EVERYTHING. THE PLAQUES MINIMUM HEIGHT UNLTD THE UNDERLYING ZONING. MAXIMUM HEIGHT, JR. ADDRESS, AND NUMBER OF UNITS ANTICIPATED AS WELL AS THE DEVELOPER. AND I HAVE TO TELL YOU, UNTIL I GOT THIS, I HAD NO IDEA THAT I HAD O FOUR PROJECTS IN MY DISTRICT. BECAUSE I ONLY THOUGHT I HAD ONE. AND THAT MEANS NONE OF THESE DEVELOPERS HAVE EVEN LET ME KNOW ABOUT THE OTHER THREE PROJECTS. 330, KUULEI. WHICH HAS BEEN GETTING ALL THE CRACKS IN OUR COMMUNITY. IS DOING THE BEST THAT THEY CAN. TO BUILD THIS. AND I KNOW THAT DEVELOPERS ENDEAVORING TO TRY TO ENSURE AS MANY KAILUAENS ARE GOING TO BE ABLE GET IN THAT. GOOD IDEA WHAT'S GOING ON IN THAT PROGRAM. I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT'S GOING ON IN THIS PROGRAM. RECALL KAILUA NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD, MAKE SURE THAT MY CONSTITUENTS KNOW ABOUT ALL OF THESE OTHER PROJECTS. BUT MY QUESTION TO YOU IS, JUST GIVEN AND BY THE WAY, NOT BEING IMPEDIMENT. CONTRARY A LOT OF TESTIFIERS ONE COUNCILMEMBER. UP CAN U U COUPLE OF COUNCIL FULL COUNCIL MEETINGS WE HAD AGO. ACTUALLY SAYING THAT I'M AUNTY HOUSING AND ON TIE BILL 7. TO THE CONTRARY I WANT TO EFFICIENT PROCESS. ANTI-BILL 7. I'M JUST WONDERING, GIVEN THE FACT THAT WE ARE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WAYS TO MAKE THIS SMOOTHER PROCESS. PART OF PROBLEM I SEE IS THAT THE COMMUNITY IS UNAWARE. SO WE ARE YOUR THOUGHTS WITH REGARD TO REQUIRING BILL 7 PROJECTS TO HAVE TO GO TO THE NEIGHBORHOOD BOARDS? >>Testifier: I THINK THAT WHOLE IDEA OF BILL 7 WAS IT'S MINISTERIAL BUILDING PERMIT. AND THOSE DON'T ATTACH CONDITIONS OF REVIEW OR NOTIFICATION TO THE COMMUNITY. SO THAT WAS MEANT TO THEY COULD IF THEY FULFILL REQUIREMENTS, THEY COULD MOVE FORWARD WITH THE BUILTING PERMIT. BUT I DO UNDERSTAND CERTAINLY A LOT OF, CONCERNS FROM THE COMMUNITY. TO BE AWARE. OF THESE UPCOMING PROJECTS. WE CAN BE MORE, WE SEND RECENTLY SENT YOU GUYS SOME REPORTS ABOUT BUILDING PERMIT APPLICATIONS THAT ARE MONTHLY COMING UP AND MAYBE WE COULD MAKE ASTERISK BILL 7 PROJECT. BUT AS FAR AS INCLUDING, MA MAKING IT A REQUIREMENT, I THINK THAT IS POLICY DECISION THAT COUNCIL. >>Chair Kia'aina: GOOD NOW HAVE. CAN I ASK, WHAT ABOUT WEBSITE SNL WITH YOU BE ABLE TO PUT UP A WEBSITE WITH ALL THE PROJECTS? >>Testifier: WE CAN LOOK INTO THAT. YES. >>Chair Kia'aina: I'M JUST TRYING TO FIGURE THAT OUT. SO THAT I KNOW THAT YOU GUYS HAVE SO MANY THINGS UPDATE. IF THERE'S NO OTHER QUESTIONS, I'M GOING TO COME TO CL CLOSURE COUNCILMEMBER TUPOLA. >>Councilmember Tupola: BRIEFLY. I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT THIS PREVIOUSLY. IN THE FUTURE, I DO THINK WE SHOULD ALSO LOOK AT THE TIME FRAMES OF CERTIFICATE OF A AOC OCCUPANCY. ALWAYS LIKE PERMIT THIS, PERMIT THAT. BUT AFTER THE PERMITS ARE D DONE, BUILDINGS ARE UP, STILL HAVE THIS LITTLE DELAY WITH PEOPLE NOT BEING ABLE OCCUPY READILY BUILT BUILDINGS. >>Testifier: YES. WE NEED TO LOOK AT THAT DATA. IT'S ALL BEEN PI PERMIT WE'LL LOOK AT THE INSPECTION SIDE. >>Councilmember Tupola: BILL 7 PROJECTS AS WELL. QUITE A FEW THAT ARE APPROVED BUT NO CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY. SO I THINK FOR THE BENEFIT COUNCILMEMBER HERE, I KNOW WE TALKED ABOUT IT, STUDYINGING THAT IT POSSIBLE PACK LOCK INSPECTION DECREASE-BAR-BACKLOG AND INSPECTION. NOT OUR INSPECTION, FIRE INSPECTION. MAKE US AWARE OF WHY AND OF COURSE THE PUBLIC WANTS TO KNOW WHY ARE THESE BUILDINGS BUILT AND IMPROVED NO ONE IS IN THERE. WE CAN HAVE BETTER ANSWER. >>Testifier: YES. AGREE. THANK YOU. >>Chair Kia'aina: THANK YOU CHAIR. >>Chair Kia'aina: THANK YOU DIRECTOR. CLERK, ARE THERE ANY IN-PERSON TESTIFIERS? >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, THERE ARE NONE. >>Chair Kia'aina: STLIN E'O ANYONE IN THE CHAMBER LIKE TO TESTIFY ON THIS ITEM? ANYONE. SEEING NONE. ARE THERE ANY ONLINE TESTIFIERS? >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, THERE ARE NONE. >>Chair Kia'aina: THANK YOU. SO MUCH. MOVING FORWARD TO AGENDA ITEM NUMBER 8. INFORMATIONAL BRIEFING. UPDATE BY THE DEPARTMENT OF PLANNING AND PERMITTING ON THE DEVELOPMENT AND SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITIES PLAN SCHEDULE AND TRANSIT-ORIENTED DEVELOPMENT PLANS AND ZONING STATUS. JOINING US IN THE CHAMBER, ARE REPRESENTATIVES FROM DPP. PROVIDING BRIEF UPDATE. FOR YOUR INFORMATION, THE STATUS CHARTS ARE AVAILABLE ONLINE AS DEPARTMENTAL COMMUNCOMMUNICATION 1 13726. >>Testifier: GOOD MORNING AND CHAIR KIA'AINA. ER VICE CHAIR WATERS AND MEMBERS OF THE COMMITTEE. DINA WONG. CHIEF OF DPP PLANNING DIVI DIVISION. AND I DON'T HAVE A PRESENTATION PER SE BUT WE DO PROVIDE SCHEDULE OF WHERE EACH OF THE PLANS ARE. AND WHICH ONES WE ARE UPDATING. SO I CAN JUST BRIEFLY GO OVER THAT VERBALLY. WE HAVE THREE PLANS THAT ARE BEING UPDATED CURRENTLY. AND THE ONE THAT IS FURTHEST ALONG AND THAT WILL BE COMING TO THIS BODYEL SOONEST IS THE NORTH SHORE SUSTAINABLE PLANS PLAN. COMMUNITIES PLANME CURRENTLY WE HAD WORKSHOP IN SEPTEMBER ON THE PUBLIC REVIEW DRAFT. AFTER A LENGTHY COMMENT PERIOD. CURRENTLY WORKING WITH CONSULTANT ON REVIEWING O ALL COMMENTS. DRATSING THEM. AND-ADDRESSING THEM AND INCORPORATING MAKING SOME CHANGES TO THE DRAFT BEFORE IT HEADS TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. WE ARE SCHEDULED TO BE BEFORE THE NORTH SHORE NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD. IN JUNE. OF THIS YEAR AND FOLLOWING THAT, WILL BE HEADED TO THE PLANNING COMMISSION. WE ANTICIPATING THIRD QUARTER OF THIS YEAR. THEN FOLLOWING THAT, TO THE CITY COUNCIL. FOLLOWING THAT, WILL BE THE UPDATED WHICH NIGHT S EPA SO FOR THAT ONE, THE CONSULTANT AND DPP STAFF SEP) WORKING THROUGH THE PUBLIC REVIEW DRAFT AND ANTICIPATE RELEASE IN THE THIRD QUARTER OF THIS YEAR. FOLLOWED BY TRANSMITTAL TO PLANNING COMMISSION. THE MOST CURRENT EFFORT WE HAVE UNDERWAY IS FOR THE EWA DPP. FOR THAT, UPDATE, WE JUST GOT NOTICE TO PROCEED OF JULY OF LAST YEAR. KICKED OFF THE PROCESS IN IT ENDING PART LAST YEAR. WORKING WITH THE CONSULTANT ON GATHERING INFORMATION, DOING INTERVIEWS WITH VARIOUS AGENCIES, RECALL NEIGHBORHOOD BOARDS, COMMUNITY ORGANIZATIONS, WE'RE WORKING WITH THE CONSULTANT DEVELOPING A PROJECT WEBSITE. WHICH SHOULD BE LAUNCHED SHORTLY. AND WORKING ON PUTTING TOGETHER NEIGHBORHOOD PROFILE IT'S AND FACT SHEETS TO USE AS INFORMATIONAL PIECES TO SHARE OUT WITH THE COMMUNITY WHEN WE START THE ENGAGEMENT PROCESS. SO THAT'S KEEPING US QUITE BUSY. I DON'T HAVE ANYTHING MORE. IF YOU HAVE QUESTIONS,. >>Chair Kia'aina: MEMBERS BEFORE WE GO TO T.O.D., ANY QUESTIONS ON THESE SUSTAINABLE A COMMUNITY PLANS? >>Testifier: COUNCILMEMBER TUPOLA. >>Councilmember Tupola: HI. ALOHA. MISS WONG THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. IN REGARDS TO THE WAIANAE SUSTAINABLE COMMUNITIES PLAN UPDATE, WHAT IT SAYS PUBLIC REVIEW DRAFT DISTRIBUTED FOR REVIEW, WHEN YOU GUYS DO THAT IS THERE STILL GOING TO BE FEEDBACK DURING THAT TIME OR IS IT MAINLY JUST LIKE A FY, WHAT IS GOING TO LOOK LIKE AND FOURTH QUARTER THE POSTED. >>Testifier: NO. THAT'S WHEN WE RELEASE A PUBLIC REVIEW DRAFT, THAT IS STARTS COMMENT PERIOD. WHICH WILL PROBABLY BE ABOUT 60 DAYS. AND IN PAST EFFORTS, WE HAVE EXTENDED IT. SOMETIMES WE GOT REQUEST BY THE NEIGHBORHOOD BOARD. NEED A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME. SO WE CAN DEFINITELY DID T THAT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE HEAR BACK FROM. EVERYONE. PUT THAT OUT ON THE WEBSITE. SEND NOTICES OUT THAT'S OUT THERE. WE WILL DO A WORK WORKSHOP A LOF OPPORTUNITY AND THEN FOLLOWING THAT, THERE'S OPPORTUNITY AT PLANNING COMMISSION AND COUNCIL FOR FEEDBACK. >>Councilmember Tupola: THAT WOULD BE GREAT. KIND OF PROJECTED THIRD QUARTER REVIEW. FOURTH QUARTER TRANSMIT THE BUT COULD BE MAYBE SOME DURATION OF EDITS. I KNOW THAT YOU CAN COMMENT AT THE PLANNING COMMISSION. AS WELL. MCALEER. BUT PRETTY MUCH ONCE IT HITS PLANNING COMMISSION, COMES OAHU HOARY WANT IT BE TO DONE. I WANT IT TO BE DONE. SMALL THINGS MAKE SURE WE HAVE SOME FLEXIBILITY DURING THE PUBLIC REVIEW DRAFT PERIOD. >>Testifier: CERTAINLY. TUPOLA THANK YOU CHAIR. >>Chair Kia'aina: THANK YOU. PLEASE PROCEED. WITH THE T.O.D. >>Councilmember Waters: HAVE A QUESTION. >>Chair Kia'aina: VICE CHAIR WATERS. >>Councilmember Waters: THANK YOU SO MUCH. LOOKING AT ALL OF THESE PLANS THAT DPP HAS DONE, PRETTY IMPRESSIVE AND THANK YOU CHAIR FOR MOVING THIS ALONG. I HAD TWO QUESTIONS. WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME DEALING WITH THE PRIMARY URBAN CORE DEVELOPMENT PLAN. WHICH SETS OUT GOALS FOR THE NEXT TEN YEARS OR SO. ARE YOU AWARE THAT THE LEGISLATURE CONCERNLY CONSIDERING SENATE BILL 2423 AND HOUSE BILL 1919, WHICH BASICALLY, NULLIFIES ALL OF THAT WORK THAT WE HAVE BEEN DOING ON THE PRIMARY URBAN CENTER DEVELOPMENT PLAN. BASICALLY, IT DIVESTS C SIT CITY & COUNTY OF HONOLULU AND EVERY COUNTY IN THE STATER, OF THE AUTHORITY TO SET THE LOT SI SIZES. I DID I HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT THIS WITH THE DIRECTOR. AND DPP HAS SUBMITTED TESTIMONY IN OPPOSITION. UP THESE TWO BILLS. BUT I WANTED TO BRING THIS OUT AND FOR EVERYBODY TO KNOW THAT THIS IS WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW AT THE LEGISLATURE. UNDER CHAPTER 205, OF HAWAII REVISED STATUTES, EMPOWER THE COUNTIES TO DETERMINE ZONING AND LOT SIZE AND OTHER THINGS. THEY WANT US TO CREATE THESE O PLANS THAT WE SPENT A LOT OF TIME WORKING ON. JUST TO THROW ALL OF THAT OUT AND SAY, WE'RE COMING IN AND SAYING. YOU CAN NOW SUBDIVIDE YOUR LOT TO 2500 SQUARE FEET. BECAUSE REMEMBER THEY PASSED SENATE BILL 3202 LAST YEAR. WHICH ALLOWS OR REDWYERS US TO REQUIRES US TO ALLOW, TWO UNITSEL ADU URINE ITS ON TOP OF A HOUSE. SUBDIVIDE AT -- UNITS. 2500 SQUARE FOOT MINIMUM LOT SIZE, PLUS A HOME, PLUS TWO ADU'S, I JUST CURIOUS. WHAT IS YOUR THOUGHTS ABOUT THAT WHEN WE I THINK ABOUT ALL OF THIS WORK THAT YOU GUYS ARE DONE, WHEN THE LEGISLATURE JUST COMES IN AND JUST THROWS ALL OF THAT OUT THE WINDOW. HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT? >>Testifier: RIGHT. WE DID SUBMIT TESTIMONY IN OPPOSITION TO THAT. FOR MANY REASONS. BUT I THINK UNDERLYING ALL OF THAT, IS THAT EXACTLY AS YOU SAID. COUNTY SHOULD DETERMINE OUR OWN ZONING CODE AND FOLLOW OUR OWN PLANS RATHER THAN BEING MANDATED TO DO SOMETHING SO. WE WOULD NOT BEING SUPPORTIVE OF THAT. >>Councilmember Waters: THANK YOU. I JUST THINK WE NEED TO BE VIGILANT ON THIS AND CALL OUR LEGISLATORS AND LET THEM KNOW HOW WE FEEL AND WHOEVER IS WATCHENING THE PUBLIC, TO DO THE SAME. IF YOU FEEL THE SAME WAY THAT I DO. THAT COUNTY SHOULD BE THE ONE WHO DECIDES MINIMUM LOT SIZE. RIGHT? ONE MORE QUESTION. SOEL ALA MOANA, USED TO BE IN MY DISTRICT. I WORK REALLY HARD 2021 REGARDING AT THE ALA MOANA T.O.. PLAN. THE NEXT STEP WOULD BE THE ALA MOANA T.O.D. ZONING. IT SAYS HERE THAT THAT'S GOING TO BE COMPLETED IN 2031. >>Chair Kia'aina: SHE HASN'T GOTTEN TO THAT PRESENTATION YET. ON THE T.O.D. >>Councilmember Waters: I CAN WAIT. THANK YOU. >>Chair Kia'aina: THANK YOU. EIF YOU COULD PROCEED ON THE T.O.D. PRESENTATION. >>Testifier: HI CHAIR THE COMMITTEE MEMBER. TIM STRIETS ACTING T.O.D. ADMINISTRATOR. SO THE NEXT UP THAT WOULD BECOMING BEFORE YOU IS THE EAST KAPOLEI T.O.D. TOON ZODISOWNING ANTICIPATED FOR QUARTER 2 OF THIS YEAR. SO WE'RE CURRENTLY FINALIZING -- ZONING) FINALIZING PROPOSAL WHICH INCLUDED STATE LAND USE BOWNTSDZ U BOUNDARY AMENDMENT ZONE CHANGES AND T.O.D. SPECIAL DISTRICTS. AMENDMENTS. WE'RE TARGET TO GO PLANNING COMMISSION BY APRIL 1. AND THEN THAT WOULD BE TRANS MID TO YOU AF AFTERWARD. PRETTY KEY AREA IN TERMS OF SERVING HOUSING DEMAND ALONG THE CORRIDOR. ER REPRESENTS, 15% OF THE STATION BUT HAS OUTSIZED IMPACT OF ABOUT ANTICIPATED TO SERVE ABOUT THIRD OF THE HOUSING NEEDS ALONG THE CORRIDOR. AFTER THAT, REQUEST I BELIEVE OF COUNCILMEMBER IT CORDERO, WE JUST ADDED THESE KIND OF ROUGHERRER DATES TO GET A SENSE OF KIND OF DIRECTION WE'RE HEADING. FOR THE REST OF THE CORRIDOR. REMAINS TO BE IN THE REZONED AND WRAPPED INTO THE T.O.D. SPECIAL DISTRICT. SO NEXT UP WOULD BE AIRPORT T.O.D. AREA, THEN KALIHI, DOWNTOWN, AND ALA MOANA. ER AGAIN, THESE ARE JUST ROUGH ESTIMATES. BASED ON THE CURRENT FACTORS WITH STAFFING AND STAFFING EXPERTISE TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE THAT AS WELL AS THE COMPLEXTY OF EACH T.O.D. NEIGHBORHOOD. >>C >>Chair Kia'aina: IS THAT YOUR PRESENTATION. >>Testifier: YES. >>Chair Kia'aina: I'M GOING TO GO CHAIR WATERS. COUNCILMEMBER CORDERO PROBABLY GOING TO HAVE SOME QUESTIONS WHEN SHE RETURNS WITH REGARD TO TO HER DISTRICT. >>Councilmember Waters: THANK YOU SO MUCH. CURIOUS. IN YOUR HAND E HAN HANDOUT ALA A T.O.D. PLAN PASSED SEPT SEPTEMBER 2021 AND ALA MOANA NEXT STEP ALA MOANA T.O.D. ZONING, IS PENDING. IT'S SCHEDULED FOR COMPLETION IN 2031. IS THAT TYPICAL, TAKES TEN YEARS? >>Testifier: WELL, AGAIN, IT'S BASED ON CURRENT STARVING AND STAFFING EXPERTISE TO BE ABLE TO HANDLE THESE COMPLEXION COMPLECH JOBS. COMPLEX JOBS. ZONING LOT TOUGHER THAN PLANNING. PLANNING COMES IN WITH KIND OF MORE OF CONCEPTUAL POLICY RECOMMENDATIONS. ZONING ACTUALLY DEALING WITH ENTITLEMENTS AND OTHER FAC FACTORS. LIKE EASEMENTS, UNILATERAL AGREEMENTS FROM PRIOR ZONE CHANGES WE HAVE TO DEAL WITH. BUT WE HAVE ALSO BEEN FOL FOLLOWING THE EXISTING SKYLINE I GUESS SERVICE AREAS AS PRIORITY. SO TRYING TO GET THOSE LAND USES SURROUNDING E'O NA STATION UNDER SEGMENT 1 AND 2 OF SKYLINE OPERATIONS OUT THERE FIRST BECAUSE T THEY WITH SRO IMPACT MOST OF -- SERVICE. HAVE IMPACT. ALA MOANA, CAN STILL BENEFIT FROM INTERIM T.O.D. PERMIT. WHAT A LOT OF DEVELOPMENT HAS BEEN IN THE ALA MOANA AREA. >>Councilmember Waters: JUST CURIOUS. YOU HAD KALIHI, TO PLAN. AND AIRPORT T.O.D. PLAN. AND NEXT STEP OBVIOUSLY IS ZONING. WHAT ACTUALLY IS INVOLVED? WHAT CAN WE EXPECT? WITH REGARD TO THE ZONING PROCESS? FROM BOTH DPP SIDE AS WELL AS COUNCIL? INVOLVEMENT? >>Testifier: I GUESS IMMEDIATE OR LIKE NEAR TERM, WOULD BE PACKAGE THAT WE SUBMITTED TO PLANNING COMMISSION. HOPEFULLY NEXT MONTH. THAT WOULD BE FORWARDED TO COUNCIL TO REVIEW. THAT'S IN THE CASE YOU HAVE EAST KAPOLEI T.O.D., THAT INCLUDES THREE BILLS. STATE LAND USE BANTED DRY AMENDMENT UNDER 15 ACRES. BOUNDARY, REMNANT IT'S AGRICULTURAL LAND THERE. T.O.D. ZONING, PR PRIMARILY CHANGEING MENTIONED USE AND IP COIRP RATING BONUS DENSITY AND HEIGHT INCORPORATING, AND SODARYLY SPECIAL DISTRICT NEIGHBORS SOME OF THOSE BEN BONEBONUS. GENERALLY HOW WE APPROACH, T.O.D. STO DIZONING ADOPT T.O.DY CITY COUNCIL. AND THEN USE T THAT AS OUR KIND OF STARTING POINT AS THAT PROVIDES US KIND OF POLICY GUIDANCE. AND THEN WE, DIG DOWN INTO THE ACTUAL PARCELS AND WORK WHERE OWNERS WHAT THEY WANT TO DO, IF THERE'S THROUGH THE REQUEST FOR COMMENTS PERIOD. IF THERE'S ANY CHANGES. WE MAKE SMALL TWEAKS DO I GUESS WHAT THE PLANS HAD RECOMMENDED. BUT GENERALLY, WE FOLLOW THE T.O.D. PLAN GUIDANCE. >>Councilmember Waters: THANK YOU FOR THAT. ITER EXTENT POSSIBLE AND EXTENT EACH INDIVIDUAL COUNCILMEMBER WANT TO GET INVOLVED IN THAT PROCESS, PLEASE CONSIDER INVOLVING EACH COUNCILMEMBER. BECAUSE PERSONALLY, I WOULD LIKE TO GET INVOLVED WITH THE AT LEAST ALA MOANA AREA. WHEN I WAS IN MY DISTRICT. AS A SAID. BUT TO THE EXTENT THAT OTHER COUNCILMEMBERS WANTS TO BE INVOLVED, I THINK THAT MIGHT BE REALLY HELPFUL FOR YOU FOLKS ESPECIALLY WHEN IT COMES TO COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT. DEFINITELY TOTALLY AGREE. IN THE CASE OF EAST KAPOLEI, REACH OUT TO COUNCILMEMBER TUPOLA. TO SEE IF SHE WANTED TO COME TO THE COMMUNITY MEETING. OUT P TOWN THAT WEEK. OBVIOUSLY, SEND OUT REQUEST FOR COMMENTS TO COUNCILMEMBERS OFFICE. >>Chair Kia'aina: COUNCILMEMBER CORDERO, THANK YOU CHAIR. >>Councilmember Cordero: YES. I WILL HAVE QUESTIONS. AND TO THE POINT OF COUNCIL CHAIR WATERS, AND COMMITTEE VICE CHAIR WATERS, THAT WOULD BE ABSOLUTELY, IT WOULD BE GREAT TO VALUE MORE PLANNING. I KNOW THAT AIEA-PEARL CITY, LESS PEOPLE COME OUT BUT THEN SAW MORE PEOPLE COME OUT FOR HALAWA AND SO IT DOES MAKE ME A LITTLE SAD THAT I NEED NOT ABLE TO BE HERE. WON'T BE HERE FOR POBLG THE AIRPORT T.O.D.'S POSSIBLY AIRPORT T.O.D. AN IT KALIHI T.O.D. DON'T DISOWNING. THAT'S OKAY I'LL WATCH ZONING WATCH AS PRIVATE CITIZEN CITIZEN AND TESTIFIER. THAT'S WHEN I CAN TESTIFY. I DO HAVE A QUESTION. ABOUT THE MAP. FLIGHT, FLIGHT HEIGHT MAPS. I KNOW THAT FOR THE YEARS T THAT BEEN ASKING AND A YEARS THAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING IT, WE WERE WAITING FROM FAA I KNOW AS RETAIL IT'S T.O.D. ZONING TOO. FOR THE AREAS AIRPORT AND KALIHI, AND INCLUDING DOWNTOWN T.O.D. ZONING. AND I THINK WE WERE TOGETHER AS CERTAIN MEETING AND I THINK WE FOUND OUT THAT WE MAY HAVE TO COME UP WITH MAPS OURS OURSELVES. WOULD YOU BE ABLE ABLE TO UPDATE THAT AND HOW THAT WILL HELP MAYBE IMPACT THE THREE DIFFERENT PLANS THAT THAT MAP IMPACTS? >>Testifier: SURE. AGAIN, THAT IS ONE LIKE TYPICAL KIND OF FACTORS THAT GO INTO THE T.O.D. ZONING. SO FOR THOSE AREAS, NEIGHBORHOOD THAT IS YOU MENTIONED, AIRPORT DOES HAVE HEIGHT RESTRICTIONS. WHICH IS KIND OF LIKE A SUPER-SEEING THE COUNTY LEVEL ZONING. STATE OFFICERS OF PLANNING AND ESTABLISHABLE DEVELOPMENT THAT CONTRACTED WITH THE, STATE OFFICE YRNTION HAWAII DEPARTMENT OF TRAFFIC MANAGEMENT CENTER AIRPORT DIVISION TO MAP OUT, WHAT THOSE FLIGHT MAT PATTERN ADD HEIGHTS WERE. HOPING TO GET MORE GRARN LAR, THAN -- GRANULAR THAN INNED RESULT, WE HAD END RESULT, HAD BASICALLY NOT BEEN ABLE TO ACHIEVER THE ONE ENGINE INOPERABLE SCENARIO WHICH VARIES BY THE DIFFERENT AIRLINES. SO WE KIND OF HAVE A MORE GENERALIZED HEIGHT MAP THAT WE CAN GO OFF OF AND AS FAR AS OUR INITIAL ANALYSIS, THE T.O.D. PLAN RECOMMENDED HEIGHTS FOR THOSE NEIGHBORHOODS. MOSTLY ALIGN. SO MAYBE JUST SOME SMALL TWEAKS THERE. >>Councilmember Cordero: I KNOW THAT WHEN WE WERE DISCUSSING WITH MAYBE CERTAIN DEVELOPERS, POSSIBLY IN THE KALIHI T.O.D. AND DOWNTOWN T.O.D. AREA, IT WAS BRAT BROUGHT UP THAT DPP WILL HAVE TO COME UP WITH THOSE -- BRAT UP, FAA GUIDED LIKE NO-FLY ZONES OR HEIGHT RESTRIDGED MAPS? RESTRICTED MAP. BROUGHT UP) ARE WE WORKING ON THAT HELM GUIDE OUR ZONING FOR OR DOWNTOWN KALIHI AND AIR AIRPORT? HELP THAT GUIDE) ARE YOU WORKING ONEN IT? >>Testifier: NO. WE'RE NOT GOING TO DO THAT JUST BECAUSE WE WERE ABLE TO USE WHAT THE OFFICE OF PLANNING AND SUSTAINABILITY DEVELOPMENT AND HDOT HAD CREATED. WE BASICALLY WILL USE T I T TRYO PROVIDE MORE REALISTIC HEIGHTS TO THE LANDOWNERS IN THOSE AREAS. ULTIMATELY ON THE LAND OWNER OR DEVELOPER TO COME IN CHECK WITH THE FAA AND HMPLET DOT ON WHAT THE PROVICE HIGHLIGHTS ARE -- HDOT FOR PROPERTY AND DEVELOPERS AROUND THAT. OR DI DESIGN AROUND THAT. >>Councilmember Cordero: YOU KNOW MY FRUSTS TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. TALKING ABOUT THIS SINCE I WAS STAFF. GOING BACK AND FORTH WAITING FOR FROM EACH D.O.T. AND FAA AND THEN NOW, JUST BEEN BACK AND FORTH. AND I DIDN'T ASK ABOUT IT. LAST MAYBE SIX MONTHS IN THIS COMMITTEE BUT I FIGURED SINCE NEW YEAR, I SHOULD ASK. THE GOOD TO HERE WE'RE GOING TO BE USING STATE OFFICERS, FORGOT WHAT YO JUST SAID. NEW NEWS TO ME. HAPPY ABOUT THAT. WOULD I OR COMMUNITY BE ABLE TO RECEIVE THAT TYPE OF INFORMATION OR MAPPING? >>Testifier: YES. PUT IT ONLINE. >>Councilmember Cordero: I'LL LOC LOOK IT UP. I LIKE THE ATTRACTIVE MAP. COOL. THANK YOU. >>Chair Kia'aina: THANK YOU CHAIR. ER ITALIANS ANY QUESTIONS? -- TYLER DOS-SANTOS TAM ANY QUESTIONS? >>Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: WANT TO START BY FOLLOWING UP ON COUNCILMEMBER CORDERO'S QUESTION. THEY'RE VERY GOOD. AND THEY DO APPLY TO IWILEI, CHINATOWN AND DOWNTOWN. WHY IF IT'S UP TO THE PRIVATE DEVELOPER, TO VERIFY THE APPLICABLE HEIGHT LIMIT WITH THE FAA, WHY IS THE BURDEN ON US IF HE WAIT FOR THE FAA TO COME UP WITH THEIR RULES THEN INCORPORATE INTO OUR PLAN, AND DO ALL OF THIS? CAN'T WE SIMPLY JUST SAY, ABSENT THESE FAA REGULATIONS WE THINK IWILEI SHOULD BE 250 FEET? OR DOWNTOWN SHOULD BE 400 FEE. WHATEVER CASE MAY BE. WHY, THIS SEEMS TO ME TO BE VERY SIMILAR TO IF IT'S FLOOD ZONE OR SOME SUBSOIL CONDITION MAKES REALLY TALL BUILDING IMPOSSIBLE TO BUILD, WE'RE LIKE, WE WOULD STUDY ALL OF THIS AND SAY, THIS PARTICULAR PARCEL BECAUSE OF THESE CONDITIONS, HEIGHT LIMIT IS THUS. THIS. ISN'T GOAL PLANNING JUST SO SORT OF OFFER A BROAD OVERVIEW LIKE WHY ARE WE WAITING FOR THE FAA? >>Testifier: RIGHT. SO PLANNING WOULD TAKE INTO ACCOUNT WHAT THOSE HAZARD AREAS ARE IN TRYING TO KIND OF A T ACCOUNT FOR THAT AND COORDINATE MOST INTENSE DEVELOPMENT IS OUTSIDE OF THAT. ZONING BECAUSE WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN KALIHI OR AIRPORT YET, WE WERE KIND OF JUST WAITING AND COORDINATING WITH THE STATE O P S. S D AND HDOT. ON THAT. SO WE COULD TAYLOR THE ZONING, TO BE MORE REALISTIC. BUT LIKE YOU MENTIONED ULTIMATELY ON THE APPLICANT OR DEVELOPER TO DO THAT. WE DIDN'T WANT DO I GUESS, PUT 300 FEET ON THERE WHEN CAN ONLY BUILD TO LIKE 200 FEET. JUST YEAH. >>Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: GIVEN THAT WE'VE ADOPTED THE PLANS, FOR KALIHI, FOR ALA MOANA, FOR DOWNTOWN, ET CETERA, DEVELOPER COULD COME IN WITHIN IP. >>Vice Chair Waters: TEL -- IPD. DON'T HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE FAA RULES ZONING OF SHIEGHT. WHEHEIGHT. ARE WE WAITING FOR THAT RATHER THAN IEWFERRING BROAD GUID GUIDANCE. >>Testifier: IF THE DEVELOPERS CAME IN SUPPORT THE IPD-T AND THOSE AREAS DON'T HAVE THE SPECIAL DISTRICT ZONING IN PLACE YET, THEY WOULD STILL NEED TO CHECK WITH FAA AND HDOT JUST LIKE THEY WOULD IF THE ZONING WHAT'S THERE. >>Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: WHY ARE WE WAITING BEFORE WE OFFER OUR RECOMMENDATIONS FOR P LE IWILEI. BMX 3, WHATEVER FEET. HEIGHT OF 250 FEET? WWHY WHY CAN'T WE JUST DO THAT NOW? >>Testifier: WE CAN. WHAT PLANS TO DO. JUST NOT TO THOSE PLANNING AREAS GET YET FOR OUR ZONING. IN THE MEANTIME, WE'RE WITH WORKING PARALLEL WITH STATE ON THEIR ZONING TO TRY TO MAKE SURE THEY COINCIDE WITH OURS. >>Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: I WANT TO TURN TO DIFFERENT AREA. IN BOTH KALIHI AND DOWNTOWN AREA, T.O.D. PLANS, IF YOU LOOK AT TABLE 6-1, EACH OF THOSE PLANS, DON'T CAN EXPECT FOR TO YOU HAVE IT FRONT OF YOU RIGHT NOW. GIVES TIMELINE FOR ALL YOU HAVE THIGHS THINGS TO BE DONE. THESE THINGS. WITHIN ONE YEAR OF ADOPTION OF THE T.O.D. PLAN, THE LAND USE ORDINANCE AND ZONING MAP WILL BE AMENDED TO BRING THE ZONING INTO CONFORMANCE WITH THE LAND USE DESIGNATIONS BUILDING THAT CITY HEIGHT MAXIMUMS IN THE PLAN. WAS THAT ONE YEAR ESTIMATED IN THE T.O.D. PLANS COUNCIL ADOPTED IN 2020 AND 2 2017 WOES THAT OVERAMBITIOUS? >>Testifier: SEALS THAT WAY. YEAH. SEEMS THAT WAY. >>Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: HOLD UP STARVING OR IS THE OLD -- STAFFING OR SOICALSOKAHO COMPLICATED -- TAKES TEN YEARS TO DO. IF IS STAFF BEING O SOME OTHER THING. WE WOULD LIKE TO HELP TO SOLVE THIS. CAN WE JUST GIVE YOU TON OF MONEY TO FARM IT OUT TO SOME CONSULTANT AND COME BACK, WITHIN A YEAR? >>Testifier: WE'VE TYPICALLY RELIED. SMALLER PROGRAM. WITHIN THE CITY. TYPICALLY RELIED ON COLLABORATIONS WITH OTHER CITY DEPARTMENTS. STATE, FEDERAL AGENCIES. AND THEN ALSO CONTRACTORS. BUT BEING EVEN WITH CO CONTRACT OFS TAKES A LOT OF STAFFING JUST TO OVERSEE THOSE PROJ PROJECTS. WITH CONTRACTORS, SO WE ARE TRYING TO BUILD UP THE STAFF TO OUR FULLY ALLOTTED STAFFING POSITIONS. BUT WE'RE NOT THERE YET. >>Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: HOW MANY TOTAL STARVING POSITION DO YOU HAVE IN THE T.O.D. SHOP? >>Testifier: STARVING POSITIONS? STAFFING POSITIONS. >>Testifier: ABOUT 7 OR 8. >>Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: THERE IS, ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, T.O.D. AREA PLANS TO BE DONE PLUS ALL OF THAT, DO YOU NEED MORE HELP, WANT MORE HELP? BLINK TWICE. >>Testifier: WE, JUST TO BE CLEAR, ALL T.O.D. PLANS ARE COMPLETED. >>Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: FOR THE REZONING. WHAT I MEANT. >>Testifier: IT WOULD BE HELPFUL. BUT AGAIN, I'M NOT IN A POSITION TO SAY LIKE WE NEED MORE BECAUSE WE STILL HAVE TRYING TO FILL SOME OF VACANCY POSITION. WE NEED SENIOR LEVEL STAFFING TO DO THE TYPE OF COMPLEX WORK THAT WE'RE DOING. BOTH FROM LIKE THE Z THER CHANGE STANDPOINT AND INFRASTRUCTURE PROJECTS TO IMPLEMENT T.O.D. PLANS. THAT'S A BEEN CHALLENGE. WE DID HAVE SOME RECENT LUCK BEING HIRE ABOVE MINIMUM. TO GET MORE SENIOR LEVEL PLANNER ON BOARD. BUT WE HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO PROCEED WITH THE FILLING REST OF THE POSITIONS. >>Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: I'LL CLOSE BY SAYING THE FACT THAT'S TAKING TEN YEARS IS A LITTLE BIT FRUSTRATING BECAUSE WE ARE WORKING ON DOWNTOWN REVIOLATE U REVITALIZATION NUMBER OTHER THINGSMENT INTRODUCED RESOLUTION 26-39 WHICH WOULD JUST BY RIGHT, INCREASE THE DENSITY AND THINGS LIKE THAT. IN THE BMX 4 ZONE ONLY EXISTS DOWNTOWN. LIKE WE AT THE COUNCIL ARE LEADING THE CART FORWARD ON THAT. AND I WISH THAT RESOURCES WERE THERE SO THAT WE'RE NOT ONES THAT HAVE TO PULL THE CART AND BE THE HORSES IN THAT IMAGE. >>Testifier: I UNDERSTAND. WE HAVE A PLAN TO GET IT FORWARD WORKING ON BEEFING UP STAFF EXPERTISE. EXISTING STAFF WE HAVE. HAVING DEDICATED STAFF TO WORKING ON THIS IMPLEMENTATION. SO I DO ANTICIPATE THAT JUST IN THAT SENSE, BE BECOME MORE EFFICIENT AND THEN OTHER VARIABLES WOULD BE LIKE IF WE DO GET MORE STAFF COULD CONTRIBUTE TO THESE EFFORTS THESE AREN'T ONLY THINGS GOT GOING ON R RELATED TO T.O.D. THAT COULD HOPEFULLY WILL ADJUST DOWN THE DATES THAT ARE TEND TO BE ON SCHEDULE THERE. >>Vice Chair Dos Santos Tam: THANK YOU. >>Chair Kia'aina: THANK YOU. VICE CHAIR WATERS. >>Councilmember Waters: THANK YOU SO MUCH. COMMENT, TO WHAT WAS SAID EARLIER. ABOUT FILLING THESE SENIOR LEVEL STAFFING POSITIONS, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT EACH POSITION HAS A PAY RANGE. LOW AND HIGH. WE BUDGET FOR THE LOWER END OF THE PAY RANGE. PERHAPS WE SHOULD CONSIDER ESPECIALLY FOR THESE TYPES OF POSITIONS, BUDGETING AT THE HIGHER END. GIVING DEPARTMENT THAT FLEXIBILITY TO BRING IN THESE SENIOR LEVEL FOLKS. THANK YOU. >>Chair Kia'aina: THANK YOU. MINIMUMS WE'RE GOING FOR TAKE PUBLIC TESTIMONY. THANK YOU. CLERK ANY IN-PERSON TESTI TESTIFIERS? >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, THERE ARE NONE. >>Chair Kia'aina: ANYONE ELSE IN THE CL CHAMBER LIKE TO TESTIFY ON THIS MATTER? SEEING NONE. ARE THERE ANY TESTIFIERS STANDING BY? >>Council Clerk: CHAIR, THERE ARE NONE. >>Chair Kia'aina: ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ON THESE INFO BR BRIEFINGS? IF NOT, MAHALO EVERYONE FOR BEING HERE TODAY. THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS, THIS MEETING IS ADJOURNED. >>(ADJOURNED). ♪