>>COUN. LEWIS: THE 19th MEETING OF THE 26th COUNCIL WILL COME TO ORDER. ALL COUNCILORS ARE PRESENT. COUNCILOR PEÑA IS JOINING BY ZOOM. WE'LL HAVE A MOMENT OF SILENCE FOLLOWED BY THE PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. >>COUN. GROUT: CIVIC PLAZA PARK ING PASSES ARE PROVIDED FOR MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC. MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC, CITY STAFF AND THE MEDIA HAVE THE ABILITY TO VIEW THIS MEETING IN PERSON AND ON LIVE STREAM THROUGH FOUR DIFFERENT PLATFORMS. GOVTV, THE GOVTV WEBSITE, YOUTUBE AND ZOOM. THE LIVE STREAMS CAN BE ACCESSED FROM MOST SMART PHONES, TABLETS AND COMPUTERS. THIS MEETING IS CLOSED CAPTIONED AND YOU MAY ENABLE THE SERVICES ON YOUR TELEVISION OR DEVICE AT THIS TIME. THE VIDEO RECORDING OF THIS AND ALL PAST COUNCIL MEETINGS WILL REMAIN AVAILABLE FOR VIEWING AT ANY TIME ON THE COUNCIL WEBSITE. COUNCIL STAFF IS AVAILABLE VIA TELEPHONE IF MEMBERS OF THE PUBLIC NEED HELP FINDING VIDEOS ONLINE, CALL 505-768-3100 FOR ASSISTANCE DURING BUSINESS HOURS MONDAY THROUGH FRIDAY 8 TO 5 P.M. THE COUNCIL WILL TAKE A BREAK AT APPROXIMATELY 7 P.M. THIS EVENING. WITH REGARD TO DECORUM, WE WANT TONIGHT'S PROCEEDINGS TO BE AS CIVIL AND RESPECTFUL AS POSSIBLE. PLEASE DO NOT MAKE ANY PERSONAL ATTACKS AND NO APPLAUSE OR OUTBURSTS DURING THE MEETING. THE MEETING WILL GO SMOOTHER IF WE'RE RESPECTFUL OF ONE ANOTHER. MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE'LL GO TO PROCLAMATIONS AND PRESENTATIONS. WE HAVE THREE PRESENTATIONS. WE'LL HOLD THEM TO THREE MINUTES A PIECE. COUNCILOR PEÑA TO START. >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. PRESIDENT, I'M HAVING TECHNICAL DIFFICULTIES. CAN YOU PROCEED, PLEASE? >>COUN. LEWIS: PRESENTATION BY JOANA WITH THE UPDATE OF THE HOME REHABILITATION. WE HAVE A THREE-MINUTE PRESENTATION. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE TONIGHT. >> I'M HERE WITH MY COLLEAGUE. ELENA WHO IS OUR CHIEF OPERATING OFFICER. WE JUST WANTED TO GIVE A QUICK UPDATE ON THE DEPLOYMENT OF (3) 300-0000 IN WE WANTED TO GIVE COUNCILOR PEÑA A THANK YOU TO SECURING THE FUNDING IN AUGUST OF 202. WE WORKED WITH HEALTH, HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS TO ASSISTS AREDANTS IN THE CITY. WE HAVE 60 RESIDENTS BEING SERVED IN THE PROGRAM. THAT GIVE GRANTS UP TO $50,000 FOR HOMEOWNERS BELOW THE MEDIAN INCOME. AND THESE CLIENTS ARE COMING FROM A WIDE RANGE OF COUNCIL DISTRICTS ACROSS THE CITY, WHICH IS GREAT. TO DATE WE HAVE COMPLETED WORK IN 29 HOMES AND DEPLOYED MORE THAN $1.5 MILLION OF THE $3.3 MILLION IN ARPA FUNDS TO HELP THE HOMEOWNERS. WE RECENTLY SURVEYED CLIENTS ON THE -- THE FIRST 19 CLIENTS WHO GOT THROUGH THE PROGRAM, WE HAD AN OVER 85% RESPONSE RATE. JUST WANTED TO SHARE A BIT OF THE FEEDBACK WE GOT. WE HAD SEEN PRETTY HIGH SATISFACTION RATES FROM CLIENTS. BOTH REGARDING THE OVERALL EXPERIENCE AND COMMUNICATIONS. IT'S ALWAYS A REALLY IMPORTANT AND CHALLENGING PART OF THE JOB, MAKING SURE WE'RE COMMUNICATING WELL. WE ARE ALSO HEARING FROM CLIENTS THAT THEY'RE GENERALLY, BUT NOT ENTIRELY SATISFIED AND THE CONTRACTOR EXPERIENCE. FINDING CONTRACTORS TO WORK IN THE PROGRAM HAS BEEN A CHALLENGE. SMALL CONTRACTORS ARE HARD TO FIND. WE HAVE BEEN ABLE TO, I THINK, DELIVER A FAIRLY HIGH-QUALITY EXPERIENCE. AND BRINGING CONTRACTORS NOT DELIVERING THEM, WE MOVED THEM OFF THE PROGRAM LIST. WE'RE ALSO FOLLOWING THE PROCRURMENT REQUIREMENTS. THAT'S ADDED A LITTLE BIT OF COMPLEXITY. PART OF THE PROGRAM DESIGN HAS BEEN TO ENSURE ANY IMPROVEMENTS MADE HAVE INCREASING THE ENERGY EFFICIENCY. WE'RE SEEING -- THEY'RE SEEING THEIR UTILITY COST DECREASING WHICH IS GREAT. THEY'RE MOVING FROM GAS TO ELECTRIC SO KEEPING THE COSTS FLAT OR LOWER HAS BEEN A BIG PRIORITY. AND I THINK I WANTED TO SHARE A FEW OF WHAT WE HEARD FROM CLIENTS IN THE FIRST ROUND. I THINK THEY'RE FEELING THEIR HOMES ARE SAFER AND MORE COMFORTABLE. WE'VE OFTEN FOUND UNADDRESSED ISSUES LIKE OUTDATED ELECTRICAL SYSTEMS THAT CAN CAUSE HOME SAFETY PROBLEMS. AND WE'RE TRYING TO FOCUS ON ADDRESSING THE ENERGY USE SO THAT THE HOMEOWNER IS ABLE TO LIVE IN A MORE COMFORTABLE HOME WITHOUT SPENDING MORE MONEY. I'LL CLOSE WITH A QUICK PHOTO OF GENERATIONAL HOMEOWNERS FRANCES AND TONYA WHO OWNED THIS HOME. THEY GOT A NEW ROOF, ELECTRICAL UP GRADE. THANK YOU. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. IF I CAN JUMP IN FOR SECOND. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. I JUST REALLY WANTED THEM TO COME UP IN FRONT OF COUNCIL. THIS HAPPENED A COUPLE YEARS DURING THE BUDGET CYCLE THAT WE PUT MONEY INTO THE AFFORDABLE HOUSING WHICH IS WONDERFUL AND WHAT WE NEED, BUT WE REALLY DIDN'T HAVE AN OPPORTUNITY WHERE WE HAD REHAB OF HOMES. WE USED TO DO THIS AT THE BERNALILLO COUNTY AND HERE AT THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. AND THIS IS REALLY ABOUT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT HOUSING AND HOMELESSNESS, THIS IS ABOUT KEEPING PEOPLE IN THEIR HOMES BECAUSE THERE'S LOT OF PEOPLE WHO OWN HOMES, OR ARE AT THE RISK OF LOSE THEM BECAUSE THEY CAN'T MAINTAIN THEM OR REPAIR THEM. AS YOU KNOW, EVERY TIME WE HAVE SOMETHING THAT COMES UP IN FRONT OF US FOR A DEMOLITION OF A HOME I ALWAYS PAUSE BECAUSE I THINK WE DO EVERYTHING WE CAN DO TO HELP PEOPLE MAINTAIN HOMES, WHETHER IT'S TO GET THE ROOF REPAIRED OR NEW WINDOWS. WITH THIS $3 MILLION THEY'VE DONE A LOT OF HOMES. THROUGHOUT THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. I WANT TO SAY THAT I THINK IT'S BEEN SUCCESSFUL AND I WANT TO THANK THE MAYOR WHO SUPPORTED THAT REQUEST. I LOOK FORWARD TO DOING MORE OF THIS. THANK YOU, LADIES, FOR REALLY FULFILLING THE VISION OF WHAT THAT WAS SUPPOSED TO BE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR PEÑA, YOU WANT TO ANNOUNCE THE NEXT PRESENTATION. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. THIS ONE IS BY THERESA GARCIA. CHAIR WITH THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE AND SEXUAL ASSAULT COMMISSION WHO WILL PROVIDE UPDATE ON THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE COMMITTEE REPORT. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH, CITY COUNCILORS. LET ME SHARE MY SCREEN REALLY QUICKLY. ALL RIGHT. PERFECT. AGAIN, THANK YOU. I AM THE DOMESTIC VIOLENCE CHAIR FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. THANK YOU FOR THE TIME TO GO OVER THE REPORT REFLECTING OUR WORK AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS SINCE MARCH 2023. I WANT TO EMPHASIZE THE PRESSING NEED FOR CONTINUED AND EXPANDED SUPPORT TO ADDRESS CRITICAL ISSUES FACING OUR COMMUNITY. DATA IS SOMETHING BENEFICIAL THAT THE COMMISSION VOTED TO FOCUS ON TO BETTER UNDERSTAND WHAT IS HAPPENING HERE IN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. AND, SO, BETWEEN JUNE AND DECEMBER 2023, THE SECOND JUDICIAL FAMILY COURT CONDUCTED 2,800 DOMESTIC VIOLENCE HEARING AND ISSUED OVER 440 DOMESTIC VIOLENCE PROTECTION ORDERS. THIS LEVEL OF ENGAGEMENTS HIGHLIGHTS THE DEMAND FOR OUR SYSTEM. THE BERNALILLO COUNTY SHERIFFS DEPARTMENT AND ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT DATA REFLECT SIMILAR URGENCY. THE BERNALILLO COUNTY DATA REFLECTED 19,000 DOMESTIC VIOLENCE RELATED CALL AND 3800 ARRESTS IN SIX MONTHS. THE COMMUNITY SAFETY INITIATIVE REPORTED DOZENS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCECLASE AND PROVIDED EMERGENCY SHELTER FOR FUNDS FOR ACS. PROGRAMS SUPPORTED 2,776 SURVIVORS OF DV AND SA. TO RESPOND TO THIS CRISIS WE'RE WORKING WITH THE MAYOR'S OFFICE AND HOPE TO SEEK YOUR SUPPORT IN THE FUNDING OF $1.8 MILLION. THIS FUNDING WITH WILL HELP SUPPORT SIGNIFICANT ISSUES LIKE FILING -- FILLING THE VOID FROM THE 60% CUT IN VICTIMS OF CRIME ACT FUNDING. ALSO SUPPORT THE COST OF LIVING ADJUSTMENT FOR CLIENTS, HOUSING NEEDS, AND RECRUITMENT AND RETENTION. THIS HOPING WE'RE HOPING TO GET YOUR SUPPORT. WE'RE ALSO WORKING ON CURRENTLY ADVOCATING FOR THE ADOPTION OF A LEGALITY ASSESSMENT TOOL FOR FIRST RESPONDERS. WHICH IS AN 11 QUESTION TOOL THAT SUPPORTS SURVIVORS IN ADDRESSING AND IDENTIFYING GUN PRESENCE, STRANGUEILATION AND SURVIVORS GO OUT TO THE INITIAL CALL AND SUPPORTS SURVIVORS FOR WRAPAROUND SERVICES. THE ENGAGEMENT OF OUR PROGRAMS AND MAKING SURE IF THEY'RE RATED HIGH RISK, MEDIUMO OR LOW. WHAT ARE SEEKING SPONSORSHIP FOR THIS. I'M THANKFUL FOR THOSE CITY COUNCILORS THAT DID RESPOND. COUNCILOR BACA AND COUNCILOR SANCHEZ, AND I'M HOPING TO GET TWO MORE IF POSSIBLE. AND I JUST WANTED TO REITERATE THAT OUR EFFORTS HAVE MADE AN IMPACT. WITH YOUR SUPPORT WE CAN BUILD THIS SURVIVOR-CENTERED APPROACHES. AND ENSURE THAT NO ONE FACING THIS IS LEFT WITHOUT ASSISTANCE. WE'RE PROUD OF THE WORK WE ACCOMPLISHED THIS PAST YEAR AND LOOKING FORWARD TO PRESENTING OUR NEXT REPORT IN 2024 WHICH IS COMING CLOSE. AND CONTINUE THE INITIATIVE THAT WE HAVE AS WELL AS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE HOPING TO PRESENT TO YOU GUYS SOONER. IT'S GOING TO BE A RESTRAINING ORDER RECOMMENDATION TO HAVE ONE FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE FOR ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT. WE WOULD LOVE YOUR SUPPORT ON THAT INITIATIVE AS WELL. WE ARE JUST GREATFUL FOR EVERYTHING YOU HAVE SUPPORTED US WITH AND WE ARE EXCITED TO HEAR OUR ANNUAL REPORT WITH YOU. I BELIEVE THE PDF WAS SENT TO YOU TO READ. PLEASE REACH OUT IF YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS. THANK YOU SO MUCH, COUNCILOR PEÑA, FOR ALLOWING ME TO PRESENT TODAY. >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. THANK YOU, MS. GARCIA, FOR BEING HERE. I APPRECIATE ALL OF THE VALUABLE INFORMATION. THANK YOU FOR ALL THE WORK YOU DO ON THE COMMISSION. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR ROGERS. ANYBODY ELSE? COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I JUST WANTED TO MAKE A COUPLE COMMENTS. I THINK THIS IS A REALLY IMPORTANT ENDEAVOR. WE NEED TO WORK HARD WITH THESE ITEMS. ESPECIALLY WHEN COMES TO THE ASSESSMENTS. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT GETS FORGOTTEN IS THAT WHEN THE OFFICERS GO OUT TO THE SCENE OR WHEN THE PERSON IS BEING VICTIMIZED BY DOMESTIC VIOLENCE, THERE'S A LOT OF SUBTLE SIGNS THAT REFLECT ON THAT ASSESSMENT. SOMETIMES IT'S FINGER MARKS ON THE INSIDE OF A BICEP, SOMETIMES IT'S SIMPLE AS THE EYE CONTACT THAT A PERSON HAS. SO THESE SUBTLE, REALLY SUBTLE THINGS, ARE THE THINGS WE NEED TO REALLY CONCENTRATE ON WHEN WE DEAL WITH DOMESTIC VIOLENCE BECAUSE A LOT OF TIMES THE VICTIM WON'T COME OUT OF THEIR SHELL UNLESS YOU IDENTIFY SOME OF THE SIGNS THAT MEAN THERE IS A PROBLEM. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR YOUR HARD WORK IN THIS ENDEAVOR, MS. GARCIA. I HOPE WE CONTINUE WORKING WITH YOU. IF THERE'S ANYTHING ANYTHING YOU NEED PLEASE DON'T HESITATE TO REACH OUT. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. OUR LAST PRESENTATION, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. WE'RE GOING TO HAVE A PRESENTATION BY GILBERT RAMIREZ AND JULIE ROWLAND WITH VITALAL STRATEGIES. THIS IS AN OVERVIEW OF THE WORK THAT'S BEEN DONE ON THE DEVELOPMENT OF A STRATEGIC PLAN FOR THE CITY AND COUNY JOINT USE FOR OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUND. BEFORE I TURN IT OVER I WILL SAY THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT COORDINATING COMMISSION HAS HEARD THIS PRESENTATION, AND WE HAVE FORMED A SUBCOMMITTEE THAT INCLUDES COUNCILOR GROUT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, AND MYSELF THAT MEETS NEXT FRIDAY IF ANYBODY IS INTERESTED IN LISTENING IN. THAT WILL TAKE THIS AND BOIL IT DOWN TO A MANAGEABLE PROPOSAL FOR THE CITY AND COUNTY TO CONSIDER. DIRECTOR RAMIREZ. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, THANK YOU THIS EVENING. JULIE WILL BE RUNNING POINT ON THE PRESENTATION. I UNDERSTAND WE HAVE A TIME RESTRICTION. WE'LL GO OVER THE SUMMARY. AS STATED THERE'S A SUBCOMMITTEE MEETING HAPPENING FRIDAY EVENING. LET ME JUMP INTO THAT AND HAND IT OVER TO JULIE. >> THANK YOU, GILBERT. THANK YOU, COUNCILORS. I WILL PULL UP THE SLIDES. ALL RIGHT. SO, JUST IN THE FEW MINUTES WE HAVE, I WANTED TO SHARE A BIT ABOUT THE SCOPE OF THE STRATEGIC PLAN DRAFT THAT VITAL STRATEGIES DEVELOPED. THIS IS THE OUTCOME OF A MULTI-PHASE APPROACH THAT HAPPENED FROM MAY OF THIS YEAR THROUGH SEPTEMBER OF THIS YEAR. VERY SHORT TIME FRAME. AND IT WAS IMPORTANT TO GATHER AS MUCH INFORMATION AS POSSIBLE. SO, WE WERE GUIDED BY THESE KEY QUESTIONS AROUND HOW DO WE ENSURE THAT THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUNDS INVESTMENT ARE SUPPORTED BY AVAILABLE LOCAL DATA INCLUDING DRUG USE EPIDEMIOLOGY DATA, SUPPORTED BY EVIDENCE, AND SCIENCE-BASED INTERVENTION. HOW ARE THEY INFORMED BY PUBLIC INPUT? WE HAD A VERY ROBUST COMMUNITY ENGAGEMENT PROCESS WHERE WE HEARD FROM MORE THAN 1700 COMMUNITY MEMBERS. AND WE WANTED TO ENSURE THEIR INPUT WAS INTEGRATED INTO OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. AND WE ALSO WANTED TO UNDERSTAND HOW OUR RECOMMENDATIONS COULD BE SUSTAINABLE. AND CONSISTENT WITH LOCAL RESOLUTIONS AS WELL AS THE ALLOWABLE USES IN THE NATIONAL SETTLEMENT AGREEMENTS. SO, WHAT THE PLAN DOES NOT DO THOUGH IS ADDRESS FEDERAL OR STATE-LEVEL POLICY CHANGES. TO FOCUS ON WHAT THE CITY AND COUNTY CAN DO TOGETHER. >> JULIE ARE YOU SHARING THE SLIDES? OR DO YOU NEED US TO SHARE THOSE? >> I THOUGHT I DID. LET ME TRY AGAIN. >> THERE YOU GO. THANK YOU. >> OKAY. >> YOU'RE GOOD. >> FANTASTIC. WE CAME UP WITH 28 RECOMMENDATIONS. AND I WON'T HAVE TIME TO GO OVER ALL OF THEM. I WANT TO SHARE THAT THEY WERE REALLY INFORMED BY LOCAL INFORMATION. WHAT WE WANTED TO DO WAS CATEGORIZE THEM BY A FEW OVER ARCHING THEMES. FOR EXAMPLE, THERE'S RECOMMENDATIONS THAT FALL UNDER ONGOING COLLABORATION AND PLANNING. SO YOU CAN SEE ONE THROUGH FOUR, THOSE ARE THE RECOMMENDATIONS THAT ARE AT THAT COORDINATION LEVEL. AND WE PROVIDE RECOMMENDATION ON EQUITY-CENTERED INTERVENTION. AND WE TALK SPECIFICALLY ABOUT INTERVENTION FROM CRISIS RESPONSE THROUGH PREVENTION, HARM REDUCTION, TREATMENT, AS WELL AS STABILIZING SUPPORT. WHAT'S IMPORTANT TO KEEP IN MIND IS THAT THESE RECOMMENDATIONS -- I'M SORRY, ARE A STARTING POINT. WE RECOGNIZE THAT COMMUNITY NEEDS CONTINUE TO EVOLVE. WE'LL GET MORE DATA AS TIME GOES ON AND WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO USE NEWER INFORMATION TO UPDATE THE RECOMMENDATIONS, YEAR AFTER YEAR. THE DRAFT STRATEGIC PLAN IS AVAILABLE TO THE CITY COUNCIL, AS WELL AS THE COUNTY COMMISSION, AND HERE'S AN EXAMPLE OF EACH RECOMMENDATION. AT THE TOP, WE SHOW YOU WHAT THE STRATEGIC PRIORITY IS. WE TALK VERY BRIEFLY ABOUT SOME OF THE ACTION STEPS INVOLVED IN CARRYING OUT THE RECOMMENDATION. AND WE PROVIDE OUR BACK UP FOR WHY WE CHOSE THE RECOMMENDATION. WE SHOW HOW IT'S INFORMED BY PUBLIC INPUT, WHAT THE EPIDEMIOLOGY DATA LOCALLY SAYS ABOUT THE RECOMMENDATION. AND WE INCLUDE BEST PRACTICES THAT ARE AVAILABLE FROM OUR NATIONAL PARTNERS AS WELL AS FROM OTHER JURISDICTIONS. I'M NOT GOING TO GO OVER THE REMAINING SLIDES. YOU HAVE THOSE AVAILABLE FOR YOU. I'M GOING TO GO AHEAD AND PAUSE HERE AND TAKE ANY QUESTIONS THAT YOU ALL HAVE. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. QUICK QUESTION. CAN YOU GO OVER THE SLIDE WITH TRANSPARENCY AND REPORTING. THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE I WANT TO MAKE SURE THERE'S SOMETHING ADDED IN TO MAKE SURE THAT EVERYTHING'S GETTING DONE PROPERLY AND THAT WHEN WE SEE THE SERVICES THAT ARE BEING ADMINISTERED THAT THEY ARE ACTUALLY GETTING DONE AND GETTING DONE THE RIGHT WAY AND HAVE A PROCESS TO MOVE ON. ARE WE AUDITING THESE INDIVIDUALS? AND THEN, ALSO, ONE OF THE THINGS I CONTINUED TO HEAR WHILE I WAS AT ALL OF THOSE OPIOID MEETINGS IS WE HAVE SOME PROVIDERS THAT WERE VERY, VERY, GOOD AND THOSE PROVIDERS THAT WERE VERY, VERY GOOD WERE ALSO MENTIONING THAT THERE'S PROVIDERS THAT ARE VERY, VERY BAD. THEY WERE CALLING THEM THE PRETENDY PROVIDERS. THEY DON'T WANT THOSE TRENDY PROVIDERS TO BE IN THE SYSTEM. THEY WANT THEM TO BE ABLE TO TAKE ON RESPONSIBILITIES AND DUTIES AND GET IT DONE SO THE INDIVIDUALS ACTUALLY HAVE MORE SUCCESS. WE NEED TO MAKE SURE WE HAVE TRANSPARENCY AND REPORTING IN THAT AREA. >> THANK YOU, COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. WE DO HAVE A RECOMMENDATION SPECIFICALLY ON TRANSPARENCY AND REPORTING. WHAT WE RECOMMEND IS THAT THERE IS A PUBLIC-FACING DASHBOARD THAT SHOWS HOW THE DOLLARS ARE BEING ALLOCATED AND PROVIDE THE PUBLIC WITH INFORMATION ON AS THE FUNDS ARE BEING UTILIZED, AS PROGRAMS AND SERVICES BECOME AVAILABLE, WHAT IS THE OUTCOME. HAVING A VERY CLEAR WAY FOR PEOPLE TO ACCESS THAT INFORMATION IS ONE OF OUR RECOMMENDATIONS. AND TO YOUR POINT ABOUT THE QUALITY OF PROVIDERS, THERE'S SEVERAL RECOMMENDATIONS THAT TOUCHED ON ENSURING THAT THERE'S A ROBUST PROCESS FOR LOOKING AT THE TYPES OF PROVIDERS THAT ARE OFFERING SERVICES FROM RECOVERY TREATMENT, HARM REDUCTION, PREVENTION, ENSURING SERVICES ARE EVIDENCE-BASED AND THERE'S A WAY FOR PROVIDERS TO PROVIDE FEEDBACK TO THE SILTY AND COUNTY AS WELL AS FOR PATIENTS AND THEIR FAMILIES TO PROVIDE INPUT ON THE LEVEL OF SERVICES THEY'RE GETTING. SO, THESE ARE MUCH BIGGER ISSUES THAN JUST SIMPLY THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUND. AND SO, WHAT WE TRY TO DO IS HIGHLIGHT SOME OF WHAT WE HEARD IN MANY OF THOSE TOWN HALLS AND LISTENING SESSIONS WHILE RECOGNIZING THAT TO ESSENTIALLY IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF AN ENTIRE TREATMENT SYSTEM IS GOING TO TAKE LOT OF COLLABORATION, A LOT OF PLANNING WORK. CERTAINLY BEYOND JUST THE SCOPE OF THE SETTLEMENT FUNDS. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: ANYONE ELSE? GREAT. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. COUNCILORS, WE'LL GO TO ITEM FOUR. Q&A FOR THE ADMINISTRATION. ANY QUESTION FOR THE ADMINISTRATION? COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. FIRST ONE ON UPTOWN TRANSIT CENTER. WE'VE HAD THIS CONVERSATION ON THE DIASSEVERAL TIMES ABOUT THAT BATHROOM BEING OPEN 24-7. ALBUQUERQUE JOURNAL WENT OUT TO DO AN ARTICLE ON IT AND IT WAS LOCKED. THEY WERE TOLD THAT HAD BEEN LOCKED FOR THREE DAYS. THAT ARTICLE CAME OUT IN THE PAPER YESTERDAY. VERY DISAPPOINTING. FOLKS RELY ON THAT BATHROOM TO BE AVAILABLE. I'M CURIOUS WHAT HAPPENED. WHY IT WAS LOCKED FOR THREE DAYS. AND HOW WE CAN STOP THAT FROM HAPPENING YET AGAIN IN THE FUTURE. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, THANK YOU FOR GIVING ME THE OPPORTUNITY TO CLEAR THIS UP. WE WERE INFORMED THAT THE A JOURNAL REPORTER WAS NOT ABLE TO GET INTO IT. WE PERSONALLY FOUND THAT IT WAS UNLOCKED. WE CONFIRMED WITH FACILITIES AND MAINTENANCE THAT THERE WAS NO REASON FOR THEM TO BE LOCKED ON OCTOBER 18th. THE ONLY WAY IT WOULD BE LOCKED IS BECAUSE SOMEONE WAS INSIDE OF IT. THE INFORMATION THAT IT WAS LOCKED FOR THREE DAYS DID NOT COME FROM ABQ RIDE STAFF. WE HAVE A CAMERA THAT POINTS AT THE ENTRANCE. I CAN TELL YOU THAT I WATCHED THE VIDEO FROM THAT DATE FROM THE EVENING BEFORE IT WAS BEING USED. THAT EVENING ON OCTOBER 17, AND WAS ABLE TO WATCH VIDEO THROUGHOUT THE DAY ON OCTOBER 18 AND SAW PEOPLE USING THE LOO AS WELL. I'M NOT SURE WHEN HE WAS THERE. I DON'T HAVE THAT INFORMATION. FROM EVERYTHING I'VE BEEN ABLE TO REVIEW THERE WAS NO REASON IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN LOCKED. WE DID CORRECT THE LOCKS IN JANUARY OF THIS YEAR ONE WE HAD THE ISSUE CAME UP. I HAVEN'T HAD ISSUED RAISED TO ME SINCE THAT TIME. IT DOES HAVE A LOCK ON IT. IT'S A DORMITORY LOCK FUNCTION WHICH MEANS IT CANNOT BE LOCKED FROM THE OUTSIDE UNLESS IT'S WITH A KEY. OUR BUS STOP MAINTENANCE HAS RESPONSIBILITY OF THE KEY AND THEY'RE INSTRUCTED IT'S NOT TO BE LOCKED WITHOUT APPROVAL OF THE FACILITIES MANAGER WHO NOTIFIES ME SHOULD IT NEED TO BE LOCKED. THERE MAY BE REASONS FOR IT TO BE LOCKED. FIRE, VANDALLISM, THE TOILET BEING CLOGGED OR DIRTY. ANYTHING THAT REQUIRES BIO HAZARD CLEAN UP. IT COULD REQUIRE THAT IT COULD BE CLOSED IN THESE INSTANCES THAT PROCESS WILL BE FOLLOWED. WE'LL ALSO POST A CLOSURE SIGN AT THAT POINT. THAT WAS NOT THE CASE ON OCTOBER 18th. BUS STOP MAINTENANCE REPORT SHOW THAT THE LOO HAD NO ISSUES. I'M NOT SURE WHERE THE THREE DAYS CAME FROM. THAT'S THE INFORMATION I HAVE. I AGREE IT'S EXTREMELY IMPORTANT THAT THE PUBLIC HAS ACCESS AND MY STAFF UNDERSTANDS THAT DIRECTION AND THOSE INSTRUCTIONS AS WELL. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU FOR THE EXPLANATION. ALL I KNOW WAS IT WAS IN THE PAPER. GOOD TO KNOW THERE'S AN ACTUAL PROCESS FOR MAKE SURE THAT WHEN SOMETHING REQUIREATIZE TO BE CLOSED THAT THERE'S A PROCESS AND CHAIN OF COMMAND THAT GETS IT OPENED UP AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I HAVE QUESTIONS ON ANOTHER ISSUE. >>COUN. LEWIS: ANYBODY ON THE SAME ISSUE? OKAY, WE'LL GO TO COUNCILOR ROGERS AND THEN WE'LL COME BACK. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. MY QUESTION WAS FOR HOME WISE. I WANTED TO PUT MY QUESTION ON THE RECORD EVEN THOUGH THEY LEFT. THEY MENTIONED $1.9 MILLION OF THE 3.3 HAS BEEN DISBURSED. MY QUESTION IS WHAT HAPPENED TO THE OTHER $1.4 MILLION. I LIKE THE DATA FOR WHO THEY HELPED BY RACE AND ETHNICITY, THAT'S POSSIBLE. IF THAT'S OKAY, I'LL GO INTO MY NEXT QUESTION FOR CODE ENFORCEMENT FOR DIRECTOR VARELA. WHILE HE MAKES HIS WAY UP HERE I'LL GET BACKGROUND. I'VE BEEN GETTING QUITE A FEW CALL AND EMAILS FROM FAITH-BASED ORGANIZATIONS WHO ARE FEELING LIKE THEY'RE BEING RETALIATED AGAINST FOR THEIR WORK WITH THEIR UNSHELTERED POPULATIONS SPECIFICALLY IN MY DISTRICT. AND, SO, I JUST WANTED TO ASK A COUPLE PROCESS QUESTIONS. FOR INSTANCE, I RECEIVED -- I GOT SOMEBODY CALLED CODE ENFORCEMENT ON MY HOUSE FOR WEED AND PARKING IN THE ROCKS. I RECEIVED A LETTER. IT SAID YOU MUST CORRECT THESE THINGS BY THIS PARTICULAR DATE, WHICH I DID. I NEVER RECEIVED A LETTER BACK SAYING WE CAME BACK AND INSPECTED, YOU'RE CLEAR. I HAVE NEVER -- EVEN AFTER LEAVING MESSAGES, GOT A RESPONSE TO HOW DO I KNOW THIS CASE IS CLOSED SO I HAVE SOMETHING FOR MY RECORD. THE SAME SITUATION WITH THE FAITH-BASED ORGANIZATIONS, SO I CAN SYMPATHIZE, THEY GET A LETTER SAYING YOU NEED TO FIX THESE PARTICULAR VIOLATIONS. THEY FIX THEM, BUT ONE OF THEM, THE DEADLINE WAS ACTUALLY TOMORROW. BUT THEY'VE ALREADY RECEIVED NOTICE OF CIVIL ENFORCEMENT. I CAN SHARE INFORMATION ABOUT THE SPECIFIC ONES, BUT WHAT IS THE PROCESS AFTER YOU MET THE REQUIREMENTS, YOU CLEANED UP THE VIOLATIONS YOUR TEAM HAS SHOWN, WHAT IS THE LOOP BACK TO THE HOMEOWNER OR PROPERTY OWNER SAYING THOSE THINGS HAVE BEEN DONE? >> COUNCILOR LEWIS, COUNCILOR, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. YOU'LL NEED TO SEND ME THE SPECIFIC ONES TO FOLLOW UP ON THE DETAILS OF THOSE. I WON'T BE ABLE TO ANSWER THOSE OFF-THE-CUFF. THE NORMAL PROCESS IS SOMEBODY RECEIVES A NOTICE OF VIOLATION, THEY'RE GIVEN A DEADLINE TO COMPLY. THE CODE ENFORCEMENT OFFICER THEN COMES BACK OUT AND TAKES A LOOK AND IF THEY COMPLIED THERE'S NO ADDITIONAL PROSECUTION. >>COUN. ROGERS: IS THERE ANY CLOSING THE LOOP WITH THE HOMEOWNER SAYING YOU COMPLIED WITH OUR REQUEST TO FIX THESE VIOLATIONS SO WE KNOW WE'RE GOOD? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR, GENERALLY NOT. USUALLY LETTER SAYS YOU HAVE A DEADLINE TO COMPLY. IF YOU DON'T COMPLY WE'LL BE FOLLOWING UP WITH ENFORCEMENT ACTION. NO, THAT'S POSSIBLY SOMETHING IF WE HAVE BUDGET FOR IT AND WORK THAT INTO THE BUDGET FOR THE NEXT YEAR. WE HAVE THOUSANDS THAT GO OUT AVENUE YEAR AND IT TAKES QUITE A BIT OF MANPOWER AND EXPENSE IN ORDER TO SEND THE INITIAL FORM. IF YOU LIKE US TO CONSIDER WORKING IN SOME SORT OF YOUR MATTER HAS BEEN CLOSED THANK YOU FOR THE COMPLIANCE LETTER, WE'LL LOOK AT IT FOR THE NEXT BUDGET CYCLE. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. JUST TO CHECK, THE ONLY WAY I'LL BE ABLE TO SEE IF THERE'S RETALIATION IS GET A LIST OF ADDRESSES IN DISTRICT SIX THAT RECEIVED ENFORCEMENT, WHAT THE VIOLATION WAS, AND WHAT THE OUTCOME OF THAT WAS. I WOULD LIKE TO BE ABLE TO SEE THAT INFORMATION AND I'M HAPPY TO FOLLOW UP WITH WHAT EXACTLY THE TIME FRAMES ARE THINGS OF THAT NATURE. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT LEWIS, I THINK IT'S PREPOSTEROUS FOR ANYBODY TO BELIEVE THERE'S ANY FORM OF RETALIATION TAKING PLACE. IT'S PREPOSTEROUS TO MENTION THAT IN PUBLIC WITHOUT ACTUALLY ADDRESSING THE FACTS. WE'RE HAPPY TO LOOK AT THESE MATTERS. BUT THAT IS ABSOLUTELY RIDICULOUS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, DIRECTOR. I THINK THE ONLY WAY TO ACTUALLY FOR ME TO BE ABLE TO SAY THAT BACK TO MY CONSTITUENTS THAT THEY'RE CONCERNS ARE NOT PREPOSTEROUSES IS TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE DATA. I APPRECIATE YOU HELPING ME MAKE SURE WE CAN ECHO THAT TO THE COMMUNITY WITH ACTUAL DATA. >>COUN. LEWIS: BACK TO COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I HAD A QUESTION ON THE MRA GRANT PROGRAM THAT THE EMAIL THAT SENT OUT TODAY. EARLIER, LAST MONTH, ON OCTOBER 11, I LEARNED OF THIS PROPERTY IMPROVEMENT GRANT. I WAS TOLD IT WOULD BE LAUNCHING THE NEXT WEEK. I WAS TOLD IT WOULD BE SOFT LAUNCHED AND THEY CHANGED IT TO NOT SOFT LAUNCHED AND MANY, MANY ITERATIONS. THE FINAL EMAIL BACK AND FORTH GOES TO OCTOBER 17th, WHICH INDICATED IT WOULD BE THE NEXT WEEK. I REQUESTED THAT ONE OF MY BUSINESSES IN THE MENAUL MR BE ELIGIBLE FOR WHATEVER VERSION OF SOFT LAUNCH THE ADMINISTRATION IS GOING WITH AT THIS MOMENT. I HEARD BACK FROM MY CONSTITUENT TODAY THAT THEY NEVER RECEIVED ANY SORT OF EMAIL, PHONE CALL OR VISIT. I'M TOLD THOSE WOULD BE DROP-INS TO BUSINESSES, AND WORKING DIRECTLY WITH THEM TO GET A FEW TEST SUBJECTS TO APPLY TO MAKE SURE THE SYSTEM IS WORKING. I'M JUST WANTING TO KNOW WHY THE DELAY AND ALSO WHY MY CONSTITUENT IN THE MENAUL, WHICH IS AS IMPORTANT AS ALL THE OTHER MR, HAS NOT BEEN REACHED OUT TO YET. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, I APPRECIATE YOU PROVIDING US WITH THIS QUESTION SO WE CAN CHECK INTO IT. WE DID LAUNCH TODAY. IT WAS LATE THIS AFTERNOON THAT WE DID FOR A SOFT LAUNCH. WE'RE CALLING IT A SOFT LAUNCH. THE PRIMARY REASON IS TO MAKE SURE WE TEST THE SYSTEM AND PEOPLE INTERACTING WITH THAT SYSTEM TO APPLY FOR THE GRANT. ENSURING THE SYSTEM HAS THE ABILITY TO DO WHAT WE HOPE IT WILL DO. I THINK THE MR STAFF HAS INCORPORATED ANY AND ALL OF THE BUSINESSES THAT YOU MENTIONEDED TO THEM AND I THINK THEY TOOK YOUR FEEDBACK RELATED TO SPECIFIC MRs AND AS WELL AS SPECIFIC BUSINESSES TO INCLUDE. I WILL ABSOLUTELY CHECK IN TO SEE WHY WHEN WE EMAILED OR THE NOTICE WENT OUT LATE THIS AFTERNOON, WHY THAT WASN'T RECEIVED BY THE SPECIFIC BUSINESS THAT YOU MENTIONED. AND I WILL ALSO GET A FOLLOW UP AS TO WHAT THE ACTIONS ARE IN TERMS OF PHONE CALLS OR VISITS. I KNOW THAT IS IN THE PLAN. I'M NOT SURE HOW FAST THAT HAPPENS. I THINK WE'RE HOPEFUL WE GET THE CHANCE TO TEST THIS ONLINE SYSTEM AND MAKE SURE WE DON'T HAVE ANY MAJOR FAILURES. THE GRANT PROGRAM IS FOR IMPROVEMENT FOR RENOVATION AND REINVESTING INTO PROPERTY AND THE ELIGIBLE MRs LISTED, MRAs, ARE BARELA, DOWNTOWN, EAST DOWNTOWN, MENAUL, AND UNIVERSITY. WE HAVE THE CODE TO BE ABLE TO ACCESS THAT TO SHARE THAT SO IT CAN BE SHARED. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. IF YOU CAN SHARE THAT FLIER THAT WOULD BE REALLY REALLY HELPFUL. I WANT TO MAKE SURE IF THERE'S VISITS GOING ON WITH BUSINESSES THAT BUSINESSES IN MY MR ARE INCLUDED. I THINK THE ORIGINAL PLAN WAS TO GO WITH FOLKS IN OTHER MRs THEY'VE BEEN WORKING WITH. I WANT TO ERITERATE THAT FOLKS IN MY MR HAVEN'T BEEN WORKED WITH BECAUSE THEY HAVEN'T HAD ANY OPPORTUNITY YET. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE'RE FAIRLY IMPLEMENTING THIS FUNDING PROPOSAL, THESE GRANTS, FOR ALL THE BUSINESSES IN OUR CITY THAT NEED HELP. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. THIS QUESTION IS FOR THE ADMINISTRATION. WHEN DID -- AND THIS IS REFERENCE TO THE 3401 PAN-AMERICAN LOCATION. WHEN DID NEGOTIATION START WITH ENDEAVORS? AND WHAT POINT DID THE ADMINISTRATION DECIDE TO PRIORITIZE THAT LOCATION FOR SHELTER SERVICES? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER. I DIDN'T LOOK INTO THE ENDEAVOR TIMELINE IN ADVANCE. WE CAN SEE IF THERE'S SOMEONE FROM HHH THAT CAN TALK ABOUT THAT. SPECIFICALLY RELATED TO THE PROPERTY, WHEN WE CAME TO YOU ALL EARLIER THIS YEAR FOR THE INITIAL APPROPRIATION FOR RECOVERY SHELTER OR MICROCOMMUNITY FOR RECOVERY IT WAS AT THAT TIME THAT WE BEGAN LOOKING FOR AVAILABLE PROPERTIES FOR THIS TO OCCUR. AS YOU ALL KNOW, THAT PROPERTY THAT WE HAVE IS A -- WITH THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO, THEY RECEIVE A PIECE OF PROPERTY, WE TRADE FOR THIS SITE BECAUSE IT'S A PREFERRED SITE FOR A TRANSER STATION FOR OUR SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT. WHILE WE WORK ON THAT, WE RECOGNIZE THE ABILITY TO USE THIS LOCATION FOR TEMPORARY PILOT SHELTER MICRO-COMMUNITY OPPORTUNITY FOR RECOVERY WAS AN IDEAL LOCATION BASED UPON THE FACILITY THAT'S THERE AND AVAILABLE LAND. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. WITH THAT BEING SAID, THAT SITE LOCATION IS GOING TO BE USED WITH THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT FUND, CORRECT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE YES. THE PREVIOUS APPROPRIATION FROM THIS COUNCIL WAS FROM THE OPIOID FUNDS FOR UP TO $5 MILLION FOR RECOVERY SUPPORT AND HOUSING. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: OKAY. WITH THAT BEING SAID, MR. PRESIDENT, WITH THAT BEING SAID THAT MONEY BEING USED TO BUILD TINY HOMES, PLUMBING, ELECTRIC, WITH THE IDEA YOU'RE GOING TO MOVE IT AGAIN? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE YES. THE INFRASTRUCTURE THAT GOES INTO THESE ARE BUILT IN A WAY THAT THEY CAN BE MOVED. THE INVESTMENT THAT IS GOING IN IS RELATED TO TESTING THIS MODEL TO SEE IF WE CAN USE THIS MODEL TO SUPPORT INDIVIDUALS. THE PLAN IS FOR IT TO BE UPWARDS OF 50, I CAN'T REMEMBER THE EXACT NUMBER, BASED UPON THE NUMBER OF SHELTERS THAT ARE BEING INCLUDED. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: DOES THAT, MR. PRESIDENT, DOES THAT FALL UNDER THE GUIDELINES OF THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT SPENDING? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, IT DOES. SHELTERING, SUPPORT, AND TREATMENT SUPPORT FOR INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE IN RECOVERY FALLS WITHIN THE -- >>COUN. CHAMPINE: I UNDERSTAND THAT PART. WE'RE GOING TO SPEND MONEY TO PUTTING IN PLUMBING, LANDSCAPING, AND THEN WE'LL MOVE AND SUCH TO MAKE IT A TRANSFER STATION. I UNDERSTAND IT'S 12 ACRES. IS THE TRANSFER STATION GOING TO TAKE ALL 12 ACRES? >> COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, WE'D BE HAPPY TO SHARE WITH YOU THE TRANSFER STATION PLANS. THEY'RE LARGE, THEY'RE UNIQUE, AND THEY TAKE TIME. WE'VE BEEN WORKING ON A TRANSFER STATION LOCATION FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND PRIOR TO ME BEING PART OF THE CITY FOR MANY, MANY YEARS. THAT PLAN FOR THE TRANSFER STATION WILL TAKE SOME -- PROBABLY AT LEAST A YEAR FOR THE DESIGNS TO FIT TO THIS LOCATION SPECIFICALLY. SO, THE PORTION IS NOT 12 ACRES FOR THE MICRO-COMMUNITY. IT'S A VERY SMALL PORTION OF THAT PROPERTY THAT WE HAVE IDENTIFIED AS IDEAL FOR THE TESTING THIS MODEL. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MR. PRESIDENT, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED. I UNDERSTAND IT WAS PUT FOR A TRANSFER STATION. AND YOU SAID THAT IT'S BEEN IN THE PLANS FOR YEARS FOR THIS LOCATION. FOR A WHILE NOW, CORRECT? TO USE THIS LOCATION AS A TRANSFER STATION. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, LOOKING TO IDENTIFY A LOIKZ LOICATIONS FOR YEARS. WE'VE HAD OTHER LOCATIONS PREVIOUSLY AND BASED UPON FEEDBACK AND IDEAL PROPERTIES THAT HAS NOT WORKED OUT. WE HAVE BEEN WORKING TOWARD THIS, BUT UNTIL WE TRANSFER THE PROPERTY, WE WILL NOT HAVE THAT FINALIZED. AS YOU ALL KNOW, YOU COMPLETED THAT JUST SOME TIME IN THE LAST 30 DAYS. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: BACK ON SEPTEMBER 9TH. AGAIN, I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED. IF THE POINT WAS THAT THE ADMINISTRATION CAME TO US AND SAID WE WANT TO DO A LAND TRANSFER TO A TRANSFER STATION. AND THEN, SEVERAL WEEKS LATER, WITHIN A SHORT AMOUNT OF TIME, IT'S NOW GOING TO BE A SHELTER. AT WHAT POINT WERE YOU DECIDING TO USE THIS LAND FOR A SHELTER? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, AS I SAID, WHEN THIS CAME TO THIS COUNCIL FOR THE APPROPRIATION FROM THE OPIOID FUNDS, PREVIOUSLY THIS YEAR, WE IDENTIFIED THIS LOCATION AS A TEMPORARY OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO COST MISE THE COMMUNITY MODEL. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: WHY WASN'T THAT COMMUNICATED TO US WHEN YOU PITCHED US THE LAND SWAP THAT IT WAS GOING TO BE A TRANSFER STATION BUT ALSO LOCATION FOR HOUSING? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, WHEN YOU MADE THE DECISION FOR THE LAND SWAP THE ESSENTIAL NEED FOR IS FOR THE TRANSFER STATION. THAT'S WHAT THE ORIGINAL INTENT WAS TO WHY THE LAND SWAP WAS A VALUE TO US. THAT IS WHAT THE DECISION FOR THE LAND SWAP WAS BASED UPON WAS TO HAVE THE SITE FOR THE TRANSFER STATION AS WELL AS THE LOCATION ADJACENT TO THE RAIL TRAIL THAT WAS ALSO INCLUDED IN THIS LAND SWAP. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THAT GOES BACK TO MY ORIGINAL QUESTION, WHEN WAS IT DECIDED TO PUT THIS SHELTER THERE? WHAT DAY? >> MR. PRESIDENT, I CAN HAVE SOMEONE LOOK UP WHEN IT WAS APPROVED BY YOU ALL FOR APPROPRIATION. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: I KNOW WHEN IT WAS APPROVED FOR US. I'M SAYING WHEN THE ADMINISTRATION DECIDED TO CHANGE THE INTENT AND MAKE IT AN INTENT FOR A TESTING GROUND FOR A TINY HOME. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, AS I SAID, THIS IS A TEMPORARY USE WHILE WE WORK TOWARD THE PLANS FOR IT TO BE A TRANSFER STATION. SO WHEN WE CAME TO YOU ALL FOR THE APPROPRIATION, FOR THE OPIOID FUNDS, AT THAT TIME WE HAD IDENTIFIED THIS LOCATION AS A TEMPORARY LOCATION FOR A MICRO-COMMUNITY TO TEST THIS MODEL. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: WE SEEM TO BE GOING ROUND AND ROUND. MR. PRESIDENT, PLEASE TRY TO HELP ME UNDERSTAND. I'M A LITTLE LOST. WHEN YOU CAME TO US AND SAID THIS IS GOING TO BE THE GROUNDS FOR A TRANSFER STATION, DID YOU HAVE THE PLANS ALREADY SET IN PLACE WITH THE IDEA TO MAKE A TINY HOME LOCATION AS WELL? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE TO SAY IT. WHEN WE CAME TO YOU FOR THE TRADE WITH THE STATE, THAT HAD BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR ALMOST A YEAR. AND, YES, WE HAD AT THAT TIME IN SEPTEMBER WE ALSO KNEW THE SITE WOULD TEMPORARILY BE USED FOR THIS PURPOSE OF A MICRO-COMMUNITY FOR RECOVERY USING THE OPIOID FUNDS. BECAUSE WE KNOW THAT FOR US TO PUT A TRANSFER STATION IN AT THIS SITE IT'S GOING TO TAKE AN EXTENSIVE PERIOD OF TIME FOR THE DESIGN AND DEVELOPMENT OF THE SITE FOR THAT TRANSFER STATION. OUR INTENT WAS TO USE THE SITE WHILE WE'RE IN THAT PHASE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MR. PRESIDENT, WHY WASN'T IT PUT INTO THE PAPERWORK OF THE LAND SWAP? THE LAND SWAP WAS FROM SOLID WASTE TO USE AS A TRANSFER STATION. IT WAS NOT COMMUNICATED THIS COULD BE A SIDE INTENT. IS THERE A REASON WHY THAT WAS WITHHELD FROM THAT? >> IT WAS NOT AN INTENTION WITHHOLDING. IT WAS BECAUSE THIS LAND SWAP OF GREATEST VALUE IS TO ANSWER THAT ISSUE WITH THE TRANSFER STATION FOR SOLID WASTE. THE LAND IS BEING TRANSFERRED FOR LONG-TERM USE FOR A TRANSFER STATION. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MR. PRESIDENT, THIS IS THE ISSUE THAT I HAVE IS THE LACK OF COMMUNICATION. BECAUSE THAT INTENT COULD CHANGE AN OPINION, COULD NOT, BUT AT THE SAME TIME IT PAINTS A COMPLETE PICTURE FROM ONE SIDE TO THE OTHER. WHEN STUFF IS HELD FROM ONE SIDE OR THE OTHER, IT MAKES IT SEEM LIKE WE'RE HIDING IT FOR A PURPOSE. WHICH MAKES OUR SPIEDY SENSES GO OFF. DOES THAT MAKE SENSE? AM I LOST IN MY CONFUSION? AM I THE ONLY ONE THAT A LACK OF 100% TRANSPARENCY IS SOMETHING THAT WE'RE STRIVING FOR. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, I DON'T HAVE AN ANSWER TO THAT. I DON'T KNOW ABOUT SPIEDY SENSES. SORRY. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, IT'S NOT EXACTLY ABOUT THIS, BUT I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW FROM STAFF, AND AND IF WE CAN GET IT NOT THIS SECOND, PUT HOW MUCH FUNDING FROM THE OPIOID FUNDS IS GOING TO IN-PATIENT TREATMENT. WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE AT THIS FACILITY, OR WHETHER IT'S GOING TO BE IN A DIFFERENT FACILITY, OR WHETHER IT'S AT MDC, CAN WE GET A BREAKDOWN -- ALSO, I WOULD LIKE US TO TRY TO FIND OUT FROM THE COUNTY TOO. HOW MUCH IS GOING TO IN-PATIENT TREATMENT TO TREAT PEOPLE WHO SUFFERED FROM THE OPIOID EPIDEMIC. THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: ON THE SUBJECT? COUNCILOR BACA. >>COUN. BACA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. JUST FOR CLARIFICATION FOR MY COLLEAGUE. I'VE BEEN WORKING FOR THE ADMINISTRATION THE ENTIRE TIME ON THE VILLAGE. THEY DID LET US ALL KNOW THAT WAS A PREFERRED SITE. I WAS GOING WITH THAT SITE BECAUSE IT ALLOWED TO BE BUILT QUICKLY AND EFFICIENTLY. I DO BELIEVE THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST THINGS WE NEED TO DO. WHETHER IT'S CHANGING AND BECOMES PERMANENT, I DON'T KNOW. BUT I'M VERY MUCH IN SUPPORT OF IT. I JUST WANT TO GET THAT OUT THERE. THANK YOU. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. MY QUESTIONS ARE FOR DIRECTOR RAMIREZ AND HHH. HI THERE. THANK YOU, BOTH, FOR BEING HERE. MY QUESTIONS ARE ABOUT OUR HOUSING VOUCHERS. EARLIER IN THE YEAR, WE ASKED YOU TO PROVIDE INFORMATION OF ALL THE CONTRACTS AND A LITTLE MORE INFORMATION. WE JUST NEED A LOT MORE CLARITY. FIRST QUESTION, OTHER THAN CONTACTING THE INDIVIDUAL AGENCIES ONE BY ONE, WHERE CAN PEOPLE GO TO SEE WHICH AGENCY HAS HOUSING VOUCHERS AVAILABLE? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT LEWIS, COUNCILOR GROUT, THANK YOU. DEPUTY DIRECTOR WILL ANSWER. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTION. REALLY APPRECIATE YOU TALKING ABOUT THIS. IT'S IMPORTANT WHEN WE TALK ABOUT HOW THE VOUCHERS TO THINK THROUGH WORKING WITH OUR PROVIDERS AND COMMUNITY ABOUT BUILDING A CONTINUUM OF CARE AND A SYSTEM WHERE PEOPLE CAN ENTER INTO THE VOUCHER SYSTEM FROM ANY PLACE THAT THEY ARE. SO, THERE'S THIS NO WRONG DOOR APPROACH. YOU ARE WORKING WITH THE FIRST RESPONDER, ACS, IF YOU'RE WORKING WITH AN AGENCY YOU CAN GET INTO THE SYSTEM. YOU CAN GET INTO THE COORDINATED ENT RESYSTEM TO GET A VOUCHER AS QUICK AS POSSIBLE. IT DEPENDS ON THE NEED AND WHERE YOU SCORE IN TERMS OF HOW QUICKLY YOU GET A VOUCHER. YOUR QUESTION IS HOW DO I GET THERE. I MADE THIS GRAPHIC FOR YOU. WE HAVE QUESTIONS ANSWERED FOR YOU. THESE ARE IN YOUR INBOX SO YOU CAN REVIEW THE ANSWER AFTER THE MEETING. BUT WE WROTE THIS GRAPHIC, AND WE THOUGHT IT WOULD BE HELPFUL TO PUT ON THE WEBSITE. IT EXPLAINS YOU CAN CALL THE NEW MEXICO COALITION TO END HOMELESSNESS AND GET YOU ON A VOUCHER OR YOU CAN GO TO ANY OF THE AGENCIES AND THEY WILL HELP YOU INTO THE SYSTEM. YOU CAN DO IT YOURSELF, OR THROUGH THE AGENCY, AND YOU CAN GET ON THE SYSTEM. YOU FILL OUT THAT SCORING PROCESS, AND THEY IDENTIFY WHERE YOU FALL IN THE SYSTEM FOR THE VOUCHER. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, WHAT IF SOMEBODY GOES TO INNEW MEXICO COALITION AGAINST HOMELESSNESS? THEY TRIED TO LEAVE A MESSAGE AND THE MAILBOX IS FULL. >> THAT'S A REALLY UNFORTUNATE PROCESS. I'M SORRY. COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, I'D LIKE TO UNDERSTAND IF THAT'S HAPPENING FROM YOUR CONSTITUENTS, IF THEY'RE MAKING CALL AND NOT ABLE TO GET A HOLD THEM, WE'D LIKE TO HEAR THAT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION WITH THE COALITION AND FIGURE OUT WHAT'S GOING ON THE ANSWERING SYSTEM IF THEY CAN HIRE MORE STAFF. WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO GET PEOPLE IN WHEREVER THEY NEED TO GO. SO, TYPICALLY THEY'RE WORKING WITH AN AGENCY OR CASE MANAGER THEY'RE GOING TO GET INTO THAT SYSTEM QUICKLY. EVEN IF IT'S THE WEST SIDE THEY CAN FILL OUT THE MMIS WHEN THERE GET THERE. IF THEY CALL THE COALITION AND CAN'T GET A HOLD OF THEM WE WANT TO KNOW THAT SO WE CAN IMPROVE THAT SYSTEM. >>COUN. GROUT: YES, IT NEEDS TO BE IMPROVED. WHAT TYPE OF OUTREACH IS THE CITY AND ITS AGENCIES DOING TO GET INFORMATION TO INDIVIDUALS IN NEED? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, WE HAVE A COUPLE CONTRACTS THAT DO OUTREACH. THE STREET CONNECT PROGRAM DOESREACH. WHENEVER THERE ARE CLIENTS THAT ARE UNSHELTERED, THEY'LL PROVIDE THEM THAT INFORMATION. AND OUR OTHER AGENCIES ARE ALWAYS DOING OUTREACH. WHETHER THEY'RE WORKING WITH SOMEONE HOUSED OR UNHOUSED THEY DO THE PROCESS OF ENGAGING THE CLIENT, FIGURING OUT WHERE THEY ARE AND GIVING THAT INFORMATION TO THEM. THEY EXPLAIN THERE'S A COORDINATED ENTRY SYSTEM. THEY GET INTO THE SHELTER WHILE THEY GET INTO THE SYSTEM. IT TAKES TIME TO GET HOUSING, OR GET BENEFITS, SO YOU CAN GET AFFORDABLE HOUSING. JUST EXPLAINING THAT PROCESS TO CLIENTS IS SOMETHING THAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN CONTINUALLY. AND THROUGH OUR OUTREACH SYSTEM. ALSO ACS WILL DO THAT. FIRST RESPONDERS WILL DO THAT. THEY'LL TALK WITH CLIENTS AND SAY LET ME TAKE YOU TO THE FIRST RESPONDER DROPOFF, GATEWAY WEST, LET ME GET YOU THROUGH A CASE MANAGER. SOMETIMES SYSTEMS CAN BE DIFFICULT, SO WE WANT TO HELP PEOPLE WHEREVER THEY ARE. >>COUN. GROUT: AT THE AUGUST 19th MEETING, THEY SAID THAT THE SOFTWARE YOU USE TO TRACK THIS ALL IS MICROSOFT EXCEL. ARE YOU GOING TO PURCHASE SOFTWARE THAT CAN EFFECTIVELY TRACK AND REPORT ON WHICH AGENCIES HAVE UNSPENT VOUCHERS SO THE CITY CAN BETTER CONNECT INDIVIDUALS TO THE RIGHT AGENCIES SERVICES? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, WE ARE WORKING ON THAT CURRENTLY WE HAVE A COMMITTEE THROUGH THE COUNCIL THAT IS VETTING THE PARTICULAR SYSTEM CALLED QUAL TRIX, WE BELIEVE THAT WE WANT TO GO DTR, OUR TECHNICAL IMPROVEMENT -- IT DEPARTMENT ESSENTIALLY TALKING WITH THEM AND VET ALL THE SYSTEM AND ENSURE WE'RE GETTING THE RIGHT ONE TO COORDINATE WITH OUR PROVIDERS. WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT UNITE CAN DO A WORK FOR US. IT HELPS US DO A CLOSED LOOP REFERRAL FOR ALL THE PROVIDERS. IT WORKS REALLY WELL. PART OF IT IS LANDLORDS AND AGENCIES HAVE A DIFFICULT TIME GETTING A PAYMENT TO EACH OTHER IN A TIMELY MANNER. WE WANT TO HELP THEM DO THAT. IF THEY CAN DO THAT FOR FREE, WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO DO THAT. IF WE NEED TO PAY FOR ANOTHER SYSTEM, WE SHOULD. BUT WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE VETTING ALL THE SYSTEMS AND FOLLOWING THE PROCOURTROOM WE HAVE A ROOF DATA MANAGEMENT SYSTEM. IT DOES A SIMILAR SYSTEM AND TRACKS VOUCHERS. WE WANT TO BE ABLE TO LOOK AT THE VOUCHERS IN REAL TIME TO UNDERSTAND HOW MANY VOUCHERS ARE YOU SENDING DOWN, ARE THEY OUT IN A TIMELY MANNER. IF YOU ASK ME TO PULL UP MY APP AND TELL ME HOW MANY EACH PROVIDER HAS, THIS ALLOWS US TO DO THAT. THE PROBLEM IS THEY ALL COST MONEY. WE UNDERSTAND THAT PUJT BUDGET IS CHALLENGING. WE WERE ONLY GIVING OUT $400,000 IN HOTEL VOUCHERS AT THE TIME. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE WE'RE USING THE MONEY IN THE BEST WAY POSSIBLE. I UNDERSTAND DATA CAN BE HELPFUL. IF WE CAN SCALE THE SYSTEM TO FIX THE ENTIRE SYSTEM THAT'S WHAT WE WANT TO DO. I RECOMMEND YOU GIVE US A LITTLE BIT OF TIME AND VET THE SYSTEMS AND GIVE A RECOMMENDATION. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. I WANT TO GIVE YOU SOME TIME. HOW MUCH TIME DO YOU NEED? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, WHEN WE VETTED UNIDAS, IT TOOK FOUR TO SIX MONTHS TO LOOK AT ALL THE SOFTWARE, WHAT THEY COST, AND WHAT THEY CAN BRING IN AND VALUE AND MAKE A SELECTION. HOPEFULLY THIS ISN'T AS INTENSE, WE CAN LOOK AT THE PRIMARY ROOT OF ALL THE PLATFORMS AND BRING IT TO YOU. WE'LL HAVEN'T COME WITH THE FINANCIAL IMPACT ASSESSMENT OF WHAT THEY COST AND THE BENEFITS. WE'RE IN THE PROCESS OF DOING THAT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. WE DO GIVE OUT A LOT OF MONEY BUT WE'RE NOT EFFICIENT OF TRACKING THAT MONEY. WE NEED TO BE MORE EFFICIENT WITH THE TAXPAYER DOLLARS SO THAT -- WHEN WE NEED TO PUT SOMEBODY IN A SPACE, IN A HOME, WE KNOW EXACTLY WHERE TO GET THEM. WE DON'T -- WE WANT TO HELP THEM NOW, WE DON'T WANT TO HELP LATER, WE WANT IT TO BE MORE EFFICIENT. THAT IS MY GOAL. THANK YOU FOR THOSE. MR. PRESIDENT, I HAVE A FEW MORE. THE MAYOR HAS PUBLICLY ANNOUNCED THAT THE VOUCHER SYSTEM IS BROKEN. AND IT NEEDS TO BE FIXED. WHAT ARE THE SPECIFIC PLANS TO MAKE THAT HAPPEN? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, WE'RE WORKING ON A COUPLE OF DIFFERENT PRIORITIES STRATEGIES TO ADDRESS THIS ISSUE. ONE IS THAT WE CAN TAKE THE FUNDING THAT COMES FOR VOUCHERS AND PUT IT IN A REVOLVING ACCOUNT. AND ALSO MAKE SURE WE CAN BE ABLE TO PROVIDE THE FUNDING OUT TO PROVIDERS IN A WAY THAT MAKES SENSE TO THEM. SO THESE PROCESSES TAKE SOME TIME AND SOMETIMES IT DOESN'T HAPPEN IN THE FISCAL YEAR. IF WE CAN HAVE THE FUNDING IN THE REVOLVING PROCESS WE CAN HELP PROVIDERS FEEL COMFORTABLE THAT THEY CAN LEASE OUT AND THERE'S FUNDING AVAILABLE FOR THEM. IF THERE'S A FUNDING CLIFF AT THE END OF EVERY FISCAL YEAR AND THEY'RE INSECURE ABOUT GETTING THE FUNDING BACK, IT MAKES THEM FEEL UNSURE ABOUT PUTTING PEOPLE INTO HOUSING. IT'S A PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING VOUCHER FOR A LONGER PERIOD OF TIME I BELIEVE THE ACCOUNT WOULD BE THE BEST WAY TO DO THAT. THE OTHER BENEFIT IS WE'RE ABLE TO TRACK THE FUNDING BETTER. IF ONE IS NOT DOING WELL, AND ANOTHER CAN PROVIDE MORE VOUCHERS AT THE TIME, WE CAN TAKE THE FUNDING AND PASS IT TO ANOTHER PROVIDER THAT IS REALLY ABLE TO HOUSE PEOPLE MORE QUICKLY. I THINK BOTH PROVIDERS WOULD WANT TO DO THAT. THEY DON'T WANT TO HOLD ON TO SOMETHING THEY CAN'T SEND. I THINK THIS WILL HELP WITH ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT REVERSIONS. ANOTHER THING WE WANT TO DO TO FIX THE HOUSING SYSTEM, OR THE VOUCHER SYSTEM IS TO BE ABLE TO TRACK OUR SPEND DOWNS MORE EFFECTIVELY. THE CITY AND OUR PARTICULAR CONTRACT SYSTEM IS ON A QUARTERLY REPORTING SYSTEM. WE REPORT QUARTERLY AND REIMBURSE QUARTERLY. BY SIX MONTHS IT'S DIFFICULT AT THE MIDDLE OF THE YEAR I'VE SEEN TWO REIMBURSEMENTS. I MAY NOT TELL YOU HOW MUCH WE'RE GOING TO SPEND. IF WE DO MONTHLY REPORTING AND MONTHLY REIMBURSEMENT I CAN TELL YOU IF THEY CAN SPEND IT DOWN. I DO PROJECTIONS MORE EFFECT MRAEVEN -- WE MEET WITH THEM, AND SAY HOW ARE YOU DOING ON SPEND DOWN AND GETTING PEOPLE INTO HOUSING. AND HAVING A GOOD COMMUNICATION LINE BETWEEN STAFF AND PROVIDERS TO MAKE SURE THEY'RE SPENDING DOWN THEIR MONEY AND THEY'RE GETTING THE VOUCHERS TO THE CLIENTS THAT NEED IT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU FOR THAT. YOU HAVE LOT OF INFORMATION. I APPRECIATE THAT. I KNOW THERE'S ALSO ANOTHER -- WHEN YOU SAID THAT YOU REBIM URS MONTHLY AND QUARTERLY, WHATEVER. THERE ALSO IS ANOTHER DIRECTIVE THAT YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO -- SOME OF THESE PROVIDERS ARE ON IMMEDIATE PAID REIMBURSEMENT. THAT'S TRUE, CORRECT? OKAY. NOW, I WANT TO PIVOT JUST A LITTLE BIT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MAY I ASK A FOLLOW UP TO THAT, SPECIFICALLY? >>COUN. GROUT: YUP. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, I REALLY LIKE HEARING THAT IDEA. WHAT IS THE REALITY OF THAT HAPPENING? BECAUSE TO HAVE ONE PLACE WHERE WE HAVE THIS BULK OF EVERYTHING AND BEING ABLE TO SHIFT IT SAFELY AND TRANSPARENTALLY AND WITH GOOD TRACKING, WHEN CAN WE EXPECT TO SEE SOMETHING LIKE THAT? IS THAT BEING WORKED ON OR IS THAT THE VISION? MAYBE I JUST MISSED THAT PART? WHEN IS THAT GOING TO BE AN ACTION? >> YES. COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, THANK YOU FOR THAT QUESTION. WE'RE WORKING ON IT CURRENTLY. THE PROCESS TO DO IT IS PASS LEGISLATION THE -- TO BE ABLE TO PUT FUNDING INTO IT. WE ALREADY HAVE AN ACCOUNT THAT WORKS LIKE THIS. IT WOULDN'T BE THAT MORE -- I DON'T KNOW IF YOU WANT TO ADD? >> COUNCILOR BASSAN, THANK YOU. OUR FIRST GOAL IS GET THE LEGISLATION MOVED TO HAVE THAT FUNDING DIRECTED TO FUND 265. ONCE IT'S IN THAT GRANT FUND WE LOOKED AT PROCESS FOR PAYMENT AND RISK ASSESSMENTS ON EVERY ORGANIZATION. MAKING SURE THEY HAVE AUDITS. WE'VE HAD NO ISSUES WITH FUNDING AND WE'VE ALREADY IMPLEMENTED THE OVERSIGHT OF SPEND OUTS. AND WE'RE GETTING THAT WITH ALL OF OUR ORGANIZATIONS NOW AND PREPARING THEM TO SAY IN THE FUTURE THIS IS HOW IT'S GOING TO BE. WE'VE REACHED OUT TO ORGANIZATIONS WHO ARE BEHIND ON PAYMENT TO SAY IS IT A TECHNICAL ISSUE OR AN ISSUE ON THE DEPARTMENT SIDE, HOW CAN WE SUPPORT YOU TO HAVE THE BEST PROJECTIONS POSSIBLE. MOST OF THAT IS PLACE. THE KEY THING IS LEGISLATION TO MOVE THE FUNDING TO 265 AND UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH FUNNY WILL GO TO MAINTAIN CURRENT VOUCHER OR EXPANSION FOR THE FUTURE IF WE WISH TO HAVE MORE. IT'S COMPLICATED. I THINK WE TOUCHED ON IT. LEASES ARE 12 MONTHS. FUNDING CYCLE IS FISCAL YEAR. SOME FOLKS DON'T GET HOUSING UNTIL SEPTEMBER, OCTOBER. THE REASONING FOR THE ACCOUNT IS IT ALLOWS FOR MONEY NOT TO BE SWEPT. IT ALLOW FOR ORGANIZATIONS TO NOT LET EMPLOYEES GO AND PREPARE THEIR STAFFING TO BE ABLE TO DO THE SUPPORTS IN ADVANCE BECAUSE WHEN YOU DO IT ON OUR BUDGET CYCLE IT DOESN'T NECESSARILY TRANSLATE TO AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR FOLKS TO GET A PLACE. OUR PLAN IS COMING AND WE'LL GET YOU THE LEGISLATION. PROBABLY BY MID-YEAR CLEAN UP IS WHEN WE TRY TO DO THIS BY. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, I THINK THAT'S A FABULOUS IDEA. EXCEPT, I DON'T NECESSARILY AGREE THAT FIRST STEP IS LEGISLATION. I DON'T FEEL COMFORTABLE JUST SAYING LET'S GO AHEAD AND MAKE THE ACCOUNT AND MAKE SURE IT'S ONE REVOLVING THING. AS FAR AS MOVING INTO FUND 265, I WANT TO MAKE SURE, AND IT IS COMPLICATED. I KNOW WE'RE NOT HERE TO DISCUSS ALL OF THAT. I THINK IT'S IMPORTANT THAT YOU ALL EDUCATE ALL OF US THAT IF WE'RE GOING TO DO LEGISLATION TO CREATE THIS MOVING EVERYTHING INTO FUND 265, THAT WE CAN BE ASSURED THAT ALL OF THESE DIFFERENT HOUSING VOUCHERS ARE GOING TO BE EFFICIENTLY TRACKED AND WITHOUT THAT I WOULDN'T FEEL COMFORTABLE SAYING, OKAY, WE'RE JUST GOING TO HAVE THIS BIG POOL OF MONEY THAT WE CAN HAVE A REVOLVING TIMELINE WITH. >> COUNCILOR BASSAN, JUST FOR CLARITY. THE ACCOUNT ALREADY EXISTS. IT WOULDN'T HAVE TO BE CREATED. IF THE LEGISLATION APPROPRIATED TO THAT ACCOUNT, I AGREE WITH YOU ON ALL THE OTHER PIECES. IT CAN'T BE USED FOR ANYTHING ELSE OR SWEPT. THAT'S THE TRANSPARENCY PIECE. >>COUN. BASSAN: THE MOST IMPORTANT PART IS YOU CAN DEMONSTRATE THAT THOSE KEY PIECES ARE GOING TO BE THERE BEFORE WE SAY THAT THE MONEY CAN GO INTO THAT ACCOUNT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. NOW, EACH YEAR, HHH CONTRACTS WITH MANY AGENCIES WHO PROVIDE SERVICES FOR OUR UNHOUSED NEIGHBORS INCLUDING HOUSING VOUCHERS. WE'RE FOUR MONTHS INTO THE FISCAL YEAR, CAN YOU TELL US IF THE FISCAL YEAR 25 HOUSING ASSISTANCE CONTRACTS HAVE ALL BEEN EXECUTED? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, ALL CONTRACTS HAVE BEEN EXECUTED AT THIS TIME. >>COUN. GROUT: THEY ALL HAVE BEEN? OKAY. ON SEPTEMBER 10, THEY WEREN'T. I'M GLAD TO HEAR THAT. ALL ARE NOW. THANK YOU. OKAY, NOW, TWO MORE QUESTIONS. THE CITY'S FISCAL YEAR BILL DIRECTED HHH TO INCLUDE IN ALL NEW OR EXPIRING SOCIAL SERVICE CONTRACTS THE REQUIREMENT THAT AGENCIES PROVIDE OUTREACH SERVICES TO MEET THE NEEDS OF PEOPLE WHERE THEY'RE AT. IN OTHER WORDS, AGENCIES TO PROVIDE OUTREACH TO OUR UNHOUSED NEIGHBORS WHERE THEY ARE AND WHERE THEY CURRENTLY ARE. MANY ARE IN THE STREETS. CAN YOU CONFIRM THAT THE FISCAL YEAR CONTRACTS INCLUDE THIS REQUIREMENT AND STREET OUTREACH IS OCCURRING? >> NOT ALL OF OUR CONTRACTS WOULD BE APPROPRIATE FOR THIS PARTICULAR MEASURE. WE HAVE CONTRACTS FROM PEDIATIC VACCINATIONS TO BEHAVIORAL HEALTH TO PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING. IN SOME CONTRACTS IT MIGHT NOT BE APPROPRIATE TO REQUIRE THAT PROVIDER TO DO STREET OUTREACH. I HAVE A COUPLE OF PIECES OF DATA FOR YOU. I TALKED ABOUT THE STREET CONNECT CONTRACT AND OUR FIRST NATIONS CONTRACT EARLIER, FOR STREET CONNECT -- FOR FIRST NATIONS, 425 PEOPLE FOR OUTREACH SERVICES. FOR QUARTER ONE. FOR STREET CONNECT, THEY'VE SEEN 90 INDIVIDUALS IN INTENSIVE CASE MANAGEMENT. THAT'S AN AMAZING FEAT. WE REALLY NEED THAT SUPPORT AS IT'S GETTING OLDER. WE ALSO BELIEVE THAT MORE STREET OUTREACH AND SERVICES ARE GOING TO BE NEEDED IN THE COMING YEARS AND MONTHS. WE WANT TO WORK TOWARD THIS AND BUILD OUT OUR CONTRACTS TO DO THIS IN THE FUTURE AND WE MAY WANT TO THINK ABOUT THEM DECREASING SOME OF THE CONTRACTS TO DO STREET OUTREACH. THERE'S NOT MANY THAT DO STREETOUTREACH. IT WAS MORE ROBUST IN TIMES OF COVID, FOR EXAMPLE, AND A LOT DWINDLED TIME TO BEING LESS ROBUST. WE BELIEVE THERE'S MORE NEED FOR STREET OUTREACH. WE WANT TO BUILD OUT THOSE PROGRAMS MORE COMPREHENSIVELY. WE'RE GRATEFUL TO THE ACS TEAM THAT SUPPORTS US REGULARLY. WE NEED TO BUILD THIS PART OF SERVICE PROVISION OUT. >>COUN. GROUT: I HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION. DO WE ANY HOW MANY HOUSING VOUCHERS HAVE BEEN USED THIS YEAR IN THIS FISCAL YEAR? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, THAT'S A GREAT QUESTION. YES, WE DO HAVE THAT IN ALL OF OUR QUARTERLY REPORTS. >>COUN. GROUT: CAN YOU PLEASE GET THAT FOR ME? THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. YOU MENTIONED ACS. I MET WITH DIRECTOR RAMIREZ, AND MARIELLA OR FIGURING OUT A PROCESS TO GET VOUCHERS TO ACS. THEY ARE OUR OUTREACH. THIS PROCESS, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T KNOW, I SIT WITH THE RESPONDERS WITH ACS AND CALL ALL THE PROVIDERS YOU GIVE VOUCHERS TO ASK THEM FOR VOUCHERS FOR PEOPLE THEY'RE INTERACTING WITH. YOU DON'T NEED EVERYBODY TO COME UP WITH OUTREACH TEAMS. WE HAVE AMAZING OUTREACH IN ACS. WHERE ARE YOU WITH THAT PROCESS? FIGURING OUT A WAY THAT ACS DOES NOT HAVE TO CALL ALL OF THE PROVIDERS THAT YOU'RE FUNDING? THEY'RE THERE. WHY CAN'T WE GET THEM SOME VOUCHERS TO GIVE DIRECTLY TO PEOPLE THAT THEY'RE INTERACTING WITH? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT LEWIS, COUNCILOR ROGERS, WORKING SIDE BY SIDE WITH THE DIRECTOR OF ACS, WE'VE BEEN HAVING THIS CONVERSATION AS TO HOW WE MITIGATE AND IMPLEMENT THAT SYSTEM. TWO THINGS, ONE IS MOTEL VOUCHERS, AND SECOND ONE IS AROUND HOUSING VOUCHERS. THE CHALLENGE WITH THAT IS ACS -- ON AVERAGE, IT'S 200 DAYS UNTIL AFFORDABLE HOUSING GET A CASE MANAGER. UNDERSTANDING THE IMPACT ON ACS FOR LONG-TERM CASE MANAGEMENT AND LEVERAGING THAT IS A DISCUSS PIECE. THEY'RE A FIRST RESPONDERAL. THEY'RE BRIEF INTERVENTION AND THEY'RE OUT. IT'S BRIDGING THE GAP. AND IT'S NOT JUST THE VOUCHER, IT'S SOMEBODY THAT HAS BIRTH CERTIFICATE, SOCIAL SECURITY, THEY MAY NEED TO CLEAR OUT WARRANTS TO BE ABLE TO ENTER INTO A LEASE WITH AN ORGANIZATION. THAT'S THE CHALLENGE. WE HAVE HAD CONVERSATIONS WITH THAT. I THINK WE HAVE A TIMELINE WORKING BACKWARD TO MITIGATE AND OTHER ALTERNATIVE OPTIONS. PLUS ALSO THE LONG-TERM COMMITMENT WITHOUT PULLING THE RESPONDERS OFF THE FIELD. WE'RE AVERAGING 200 DAYS TO GET SOMEBODY IN A HOUSING VOUCHERS. BECAUSE OF STOCK AND AVAILABILITY. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I THINK OUR CONVERSATION IS SPECIFICALLY AROUND HOTEL VOUCHERS. WHERE ARE WE WITH THAT? >> THE COMMITTEE BRIEFED US LAST WEEK, COUNCILOR ROGERS, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, ON THE RECOMMENDATIONS FROM THE REPORT. WE REVIEWED THE ENTIRE REPORT. AND ONE OF THE THINGS THEY BROUGHT WAS A PLATFORM INCLUDED IN THE OTHER ANALYSIS TO SAY IS THERE A WAY TO EXPEDITE THE ACCESS IN THE POINTS OF ENTRY FOR THE SYSTEM. THE ENTITY THEY LOOKED AT IS $400,000 A YEAR ANNUAL COST. THERE'S AN IMPACT TO THAT. >>COUN. ROGERS: NOT OUR VOUCHER TASK FORCE RECOMMENDATION. BUT CONVERSATION YOU AND I AND MARIELLA HAD ABOUT ACS AND MOTEL VOUCHERS FOR THEM. >> I BELIEVE, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, IT WAS PART OF A LARGER CONVERSATION GIVEN THE FACT THAT OUR POT IS UNDER 400, SO THERE ISN'T NEW MONEY IT'S DEVELOPING THE SYSTEM. TWO THINGS CAME OUT OF THAT, IT WOULD REQUIRE THE FUNDING AND WHAT IS THE SYSTEM WE CAN IMPLEMENT TO HAVE THE EASY ACCESS. >>COUN. LEWIS: AWAY -- ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. JUST A QUESTION, A FEW QUESTIONS THAT SOMEBODY ASKED ABOUT THE REINVESTMENT FUND PROPERTY GRANTS. I LOOKED ONLINE AND IT'S SHOWING THAT THE MRA DOES NOT QUALIFY FOR THESE. IS THAT ACCURATE, OR IS THAT A MISTAKE? IF THAT IS ACCURATE, WHY NOT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, I'M LOOKING AT THE FLIER AND IT DOESN'T LIST WEST CENTRAL. I CAN'T ANSWER THE QUESTION ON SPECIFICITY OF WHY THEY'RE DETERMINED TO BE IN OR NOT. I'LL MAKE SURE THAT WE FOLLOW UP WITH YOU AND COUNCILORS FOR THIS FIRST ROUND AND MAKE SURE WE CAN EXPLAIN THAT. >>COUN. PEÑA: I APPRECIATE IT. MY SECOND QUESTION IS, WE UTILIZE THAT FOR THE PRISONER TRANSPORT TO PRISONERS. WE ACTUALLY HAVE OUR SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT THAT USES IT ON A REGULAR BASIS. AND SHELLY ROAD, FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT ARE FAMILIAR, IT'S THAT LONG STRETCH FROM ATRISCO VISTA ALL THE WAY TO THE LANDFILL OR JAIL. IT'S A VERY, VERY DANGEROUS ROAD. THERE IS ALWAYS ACCIDENTS, AND UNFORTUNATELY ACCIDENTS THAT RESULT IN TRAGEDIES AND LOSS OF LIFE. I'M HOPING THAT, AND I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THIS WOULD BE A RESOLUTION, BUT I KNOW THERE'S A YOUNG LADY THAT JUST PASSED AWAY RECENTLY. I THINK IT'S ONE OF THOSE THINGS THAT FALLS OFF THE RADAR BECAUSE IT'S NOT WITHIN CITY PROPERTY. I THINK IT'S COUNTY AND STATE. I ASK THE ADMINISTRATION TO REALLY LOOK INTO IN AN EMERGENCY WAY TO REALLY LOOK AT ADDRESSING SOME OF THE SAFETY ISSUES RELATED TO SHELLY ROAD. AND I DON'T KNOW IF ANYBODY CAN TALK TO THAT. I KNOW MAYBE THE DIRECTOR FROM SOLID WASTE OR FROM APD. IT'S JUST, YOU KNOW, I HEAR ABOUT ALL THESE TRAGEDIES ON A REGULAR BASIS. AND REALLY HAVE TO, AGAIN, PAY CLOSE ATTENTION TO THAT. MR. MONTOYA. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, I'LL PUT ON MY OLD DMD HAT AND SEE WHAT I REMEMBER. WE'RE WORKING WITH BOTH NMDOT AND THE COUNTY TO INSTALL 52 LIGHTS ON THAT STRETCH OF SHELLRY ROAD. WE'LL BE RESPONSIBLE WITH COUNTY. AND NMDOT BETWEEN THE INTERCHANGE UP TO WHERE THE COVER -- CURVE IS AT. I DON'T KNOW THE STATUS OF THE PROJECT. I NEED TO CHECK WITH DMD, THE COUNTY, AND THE STATE. THAT IS LONGRANGE. AND I KNOW THEY'RE LOOKING AT FENCING ALONG THE INTERSTATE. SOMETHING THAT'S STURDIER. I CAN'T ADDRESS THE CONDITION OF THE ROAD. THAT'S A COUNTY ROAD NOT CITY STREET. YOU CAN FOLLOW UP WITH THE DEPUTY MANAGER. THOSE ARE THREE THINGS TAKING PLACE WITHIN EARLY NEXT YEAR. >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. PRESIDENT, MR. MONTOYA, MAYBE IT WOULD BEHOOVE US TO ASK FOR THE STATE AND COUNTY, AND MAYBE THE COUNTY WOULD DO A MIRROR RESOLUTION TO MAKE IT A PRIORITY. BECAUSE, AGAIN, AS YOU KNOW, IT'S VERY, VERY UNSAFE, THAT ROAD. I DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TRAGEDIES HAVE BEEN OUT THERE. I'M SURE YOU KNOW MORE THAN I DO. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, WHAT I WILL DO IS MAKE AN EFFORT -- DIRECTOR OF DMD IS OUT OF THE OFFICE THE REMAINDER OF THIS WEEK. I'LL MEET WITH MR. SANCHEZ AND SEE IF WE CAN SCHEDULE A MEETING ASAP WITH THE COUNTY AND NMDOT TO EXPEDITE THE TYPE OF IMPROVEMENT WE TALKED ABOUT. >>COUN. PEÑA: MR. PRESIDENT, MR. MONTOYA, THANK YOU SO MUCH. I APPRECIATE THAT. WE NEED SOMETHING TO BE DONE. IT GOES INTO THE SANTOLINA THING. PEOPLE DON'T WANT TO TOUCH THE AREA BECAUSE THERE'S PROPERTY THERE. THERE'S PROPERTY BEING UTILIZE D THAT'S NOT BEING PAID ATTENTION TO. THANK YOU, MR. MONTOYA. >>COUN. LEWIS: THIS IS FOR MR. SOURISSEAU. DID THE CITY HAVE ANY PLANS TO INVOICE THE CAMPAIGN OF PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN FOR THE EVENT WHERE KAMALA HARRIS'S COMES CAME TO TOWN, CAME TO THE SUN PORT. THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN EXPLICITLY SAID THAT WAS A CAMPAIGN EVENT. HE WENT TO A FUND-RAISER AND CAMPAIGN EVENT. AND WE PROVIDED SERVICES FOR THAT. WE PROVIDED APD LEAD DETAIL. WE PROVIDED AN ESCORT. AND THESE ARE THE SAME CHARGES THAT WE CHARGED IN THE INVOICE TO THE PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN. THE ONLY INVOICE WE'VE EVER ACTUALLY SENT. SO, ARE WE PLANNING ON SENDING AN INVOICE FOR THOSE EXPENSES BY THE CITY BY APD TO THAT CAMPAIGN? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT LEWIS, THE CHARGES FOR THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN WERE QUITE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT YOU'RE DESCRIBING. >>COUN. LEWIS: BUT THEY'RE NOT. SPECIFICALLY, THEY'RE FOR APD. THERE'S ONE LINE ITEM, ABOUT $17,000 OR SO, AND MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT IS SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE OF THE DETAIL THAT WAS PROVIDED. I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE BARRIERS AND I'M NOT TALKING ABOUT THE CITY CLOSING DOWN. LET'S TALK ABOUT THE SAME EXACT THING. IT'S REAL SIMPLE. ARE WE PLANNING ON CHARGING OR THAT? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, CAN YOU ANSWER THE QUESTION, DID BIDEN SPEND THE NIGHT DOWNTOWN? >>COUN. LEWIS: IT'S NOT A QUESTION FOR ME, IT'S A QUESTION FOR YOU. >> IN ORDER TO ANSWER THAT QUESTION, I NEED DETAIL. >>COUN. LEWIS: I GAVE YOU THE DETAIL. DO YOU HAVE ANY INTENTION OF DOING THE INVOICE FOR THAT CAMPAIGN? >> DON'T HAVE THE DETAILS. THEY'RE QUITE DIFFERENT THAN WHAT WE BILLED FOR IN THE TRUMPCOME PAIN. WE'RE NOT BILLING FOR EXTRA SECURITY HOURS, APD, AVIATION. ALL OF THE TIME THAT WAS PUT INTO LAST WEEK'S EVENT. THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN WILL NOT GET BILLED FOR IT. >>COUN. LEWIS: I'M SIMPLY TALKING ABOUT THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN AND THAT SPECIFIC VISIT WE SPENT CITY RESOURCES ON. THERE'S A LINEIMENT IN THE INVOICE TO THE PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN THAT WE'RECHARGING FOR. THAT'S THE SAME EXACT THING. I'M ASSUMING WE'RE NOT CHARGING FOR THAT. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, I'M NOT AWARE THAT PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN SPENT THE NIGHT IN ALBUQUERQUE. SO ADDITIONAL RESOURCES LIKE THAT. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE'RE NOT TALKING ABOUT THAT. I'M GOING TO INTERRUPT YOU IF -- MY FAULT FOR NOT, I GUESS, COMMUNICATING THE QUESTION. WE'RE TALK ABOUT JOE BIDEN'S CAMPAIGN WHERE HE SENT KAMALA HARRIS'S HUSBAND ON A CAMPAIGN EVENT AND APD PROVIDED LEAD DETAIL AND ESCORT. ARE WE GOING TO CHARGE FOR THAT OR NOT? >> I HAVE NOT BEEN, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, I HAVE NOT BEEN ASKED BY APD TO SEND A BILL FOR THAT. PROBABLY BECAUSE IT WAS NOT EXTENSIVE AND OVERNIGHT LIKE THE TRUMP VISIT IN 2019 THAT YOU'RE CONCERNED ABOUT. >>COUN. LEWIS: I'M NOT CONCERNED ABOUT IT. YOU GOT AN INVIS FOR IT, I'M TRYING TO SEE IF WE'RE BEING INCONSISTENT WITH EVERY OTHER WAY WE'RE CHARGING EVERYTHING ELSE. I'M TRYING TO LOOK FOR CONSISTENCY HERE. YOU'RE WAITING ON THE MAYOR TO TELL YOU WHETHER YOU SHOULD BILL FOR IT OR NOT? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, IF YOU'RE LOOKING FOR CONSISTENCY, YOU'RE COMPARING APPLES AND TOYOTAS. >>COUN. LEWIS: I'M NOT. I SEE IN THE INVOICE YOU SENT THAT CAMPAIGN, AND THE SAME EXACT EXPENSES THAT WE CHARGE -- THAT WE DID NOT CHARGE, AND I JUST GAVE ONE EXAMPLE OF HARRIS'S HUSBAND. IT GOES ON AND ON. FORMER MAYOR SAYS WE NEVER CHARGE ANYBODY FOR THAT. WE TALK ABOUT THE PRESIDENTIAL VISITS AND EVERYTHING ELSE AND THE EXPENSIVENESS OF WHAT THEY'RE CHARGED FOR. THE PREVIOUS MAYOR NEVER CHARGED -- AS FAR AS YOU KNOW, WE'VE NEVER CHARGED ANYBODY FOR ANYTHING RELATED TO THE THOSE CHARGES. I GUESS I'D GO TO OUR CITY ATTORNEY. IT'S IMPORTANT THAT WE'RE CONSISTENT IN HOW WE CHARGE ENTITIES FOR CITY SERVICES LEGALLY? >> I GUESS, GENERALLY, YES. THAT'S TRUE. >>COUN. LEWIS: OF COURSE IT IS. I THINK IF WE'RE INCONSISTENT WITH THAT, THE CITY WOULD BE FACED WITH SOME LIABILITY. WE TREATED PEOPLE INCONSISTENTLY. IS THAT TRUE? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, YES. POTENTIALLY. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. I DON'T KNOW HOW ELSE TO SPELL OUT, COMPARING APPLES TO APPLES OR TOYOTA OR WHATEVER. I DON'T SEE HOW THIS CAN BE MORE CLEAR. I AM SAYING THERE NEEDS TO BE CONSISTENCY. EVEN THE CITY OF TEMPE SAID THEY'RE CHARGING ONE CAMPAIGN, BUT THEY CONSISTENTLY CHARGE EVERYBODY. SO, AT LEAST THEY'RE ATTEMPTING NOT TO SOUND POLITICAL ABOUT IT. BUT THE WAY WE DO THIS RIGHT NOW, YOU KNOW, IT'S OBVIOUS TO PEOPLE WHO JUST DRAW THE CONCLUSION THIS WAS JUST AN OPPORTUNITY TO GIVE MAYOR KELLER HIS FIVE MINUTES OF FAME ON MSNBC THIS WEEK. HOW ELSE, WHAT OTHER RESULT WOULD THERE BE OTHER THAN THAT? WOULD -- WITH THE INCONSISTENCY WITH HOW WE CHARGE ANYBODY THAT'S USING OUR APD RESOURCES IN THAT WAY. THE CHIEF IS NOT GOING TO GIVE YOU A BILL, BECAUSE HE'S NEVER GIVEN YOU A BILL. I DON'T THINK THE CHIEF GAVE YOU A BILL FOR THE PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN. THE CHIEF DIDN'T SAY LET'S CHARGE HIM FOR THAT BECAUSE I KNOW APD HAS NEVER DONE THAT. >> PRESIDENT LEWIS, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THAT MAYOR CHAVEZ WHO I BELIEVE HAD 12 YEARS AS MAYOR OF THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE HAS TOLD US HE DID BILL, THERE'S EVIDENCE, OR HE'S PRETTY CONFIDENT THEY BILLED OTHER CAMPAIGNS AT POINTS IN TIME. HE SAID THAT TO US. >>COUN. LEWIS: HE WAS ON TV THIS WEEK SAYING HE'S NEVER DONE THAT BEFORE. >> THAT IS NOT WHAT HE TOLD US. YOU MIGHT WANT TO CHECK WITH HIM. BACK TO OUR POINT ABOUT CONSISTENCY, THERE IS NOTHING CONSISTENT OR COMPARABLE ABOUT THE BIDEN CAMPAIGN VISIT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AND THE 2019 TRUMP VISIT WHERE DOWNTOWN WAS SHUT DOWN AND WE HAD OVERNIGHT SECURITY OF DOWNTOWN. >>COUN. LEWIS: I JUST TOLD YOU THE EXACT APPLES TO APPLES COMPARISON AND THE CHARGES WE DID SEND AND DID NOT SPEND AND THE EXPENSES WE DID SEND OR DID NOT SEND TO NOT ONLY THAT CAMPAIGN. I'M SORRY YOU HAVE TO ANSWER FOR THE MAYOR FOR THIS POSITION. PROBABLY A TOUGH POSITION FOR A PLACEICAL GAME OF THIS. YOU HAVE TO ANSWER THE QUESTIONS IN A WAY THAT'S PRETTY HARD TO. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILORS, ANY OTHER Q&A? WE'RE GOING TO GO TO THE JOURNAL. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: MR. PRESIDENT, I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE OCTOBER 21st JOURNAL. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: SECOND. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOVED AND SECONDED BY COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. MADAM CLERK. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. COMMUNICATIONS AND INTRODUCTIONS. I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR PLACING EC-254 FOR ACTION. REQUESTING AUTHORIZATION OF SERVICES FOR ALL CASA TO PROVIDE MANAGEMENT FOR GUESTS UNDER THE AGE OF 60 AT GATEWAY WEST. MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT. QUESTIONS COMMENTS? COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I HAD SOME CONVERSATIONS THAT THERE WERE QUESTIONS THAT ALLUDED TO THE FACT -- AND I DON'T KNOW, BUT IT MIGHT BE DEFERRED. IF THAT'S THE CASE, WHY WOULD WE PUT IT ON FOR IMMEDIATE ACTION? >>COUN. BASSAN: IT'S UP TO YOU, COUNCILOR? WE'LL GO TO A VOTE. THIS IS AN EC. IT WOULD BE -- ADMINISTRATION WANT TO COMMENT ON IT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, THIS IS AN ESSENTIAL CONTRACT FOR US TO MOVE FORWARD TO BE ABLE TO ENSURE THAT WE HAVE PROVIDERS ON -- THAT WE CAN WORK THROUGH CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS TO ENSURE THAT WHEN IMPROVEMENTS ARE READY WE CAN OPEN THE DOORS AND PROVIDE SERVICES. THAT IS THE INTENT FOR WHY WE HAVE IMMEDIATE ACTION ON OUR CONTRACT. WE WOULD LIKE TO ENSURE THAT NOTHING SITS UNUSED. WE'RE IN A CRISIS, WE HAVE A CRISIS IN FRONT OF US. AS WE MOVE THROUGH CHALLENGING CONTRACT NEGOTIATIONS, WITHOUT THIS ACTION, WE WILL BE PAUSED AND FACILITIES WILL SIT EMPTY. WE ASK, PLEASE, FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION TO MOVE THIS FORWARD SO WE CAN ENSURE TO WORK WITH OUR PARTNERS TO PROVIDE SERVICES. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILORS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE -- THIS IS MOVED AND SECONDED. NEED TWO-THIRD VOTE FOR IMMEDIATE ACTION. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. LEWIS: I MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR PLACING EC255. IT'S THE MAYOR'S RECOMMENDATION FOR FINANCIAL SERVICES AND STRATEGIC PLANNING CONSULTANT. MOVED AND SECONDED BY COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS? [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. GROUT: MR. PRESIDENT, I MOVE LETTER OF INTRODUCTION. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOVED AND SECONDED BY COUNCILOR ROGERS. MADAM CLERK. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. LEWIS: REPORTS OF COMMITTEES. COUNCILOR SANCHEZ. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. FINANCE AND GOVERNMENT OPERATIONS COMMITTEE MET ON MONDAY OCTOBER 28, 2024 AND REPORTS THE FOLLOWING ITEMS. IN THE MATTER OF EC-215, EC-216, 21 AND 42, THEY BE APPROVED. IN THE MATTER OF EC-218, 219, 245, BE APPROVED. AND BE ACTED UPON AT THE MEETING WHICH THEY'RE REPORTED. IN THE MATTER OF O-41, O-47, O-49, O-50R, DO PASS. I MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE COMMITTEE REPORTS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOVED AND SECONDED BY COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. LEWIS: ANY DEFERRALS OR WITHDRAWALS? ANY CHANGES TO THE CONSENT AGENDA? >>COUN. GROUT: MR. PRESIDENT, I WANT TO PULL OFF EC-24-2-48 AND 2-49. >>COUN. LEWIS: ANY OTHERS? INDIVIDUALS ON TONIGHT'S AGENDA WHO ARE BEING APPOINTED TO SERVE ON A BOARD OR COMMISSION THANK YOU FOR YOUR WILLINGNESS TO SERVE. COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: I MOVE APPROVAL OF THE CONSENT AGENDA. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOVED AND SECONDED BY COUNCILOR ROGERS. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR GROUT, EC248. AND 249. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. IF WE CAN DO BOTH OF THEM AT THE SAME TIME, I NOTICED THAT BOTH OF THESE ARE SMALL BUSINESS ADVISORY BOARD POSITIONS THAT ARE BEING APPOINTED. THEY ARE BOTH FROM DISTRICT TWO. ON THE SMALL BUSINESS ADVISORY BOARD WE HAVE THREE PEOPLE ON THAT BOARD, ONE IS FROM DISTRICT EIGHT, ONE IS ALREADY ON DISTRICT TWO, AND ONE IS FROM DISTRICT FOUR. MY QUESTION IS, ARE THERE ANY OTHER PEOPLE THAT WERE CONSIDERED? I DON'T KNOW WHO TO ASK. >> COUNCILOR GROUT, UNFORTUNATELY, I DON'T KNOW THAT I CAN ANSWER THAT QUESTION. WE CAN ABSOLUTELY LOOK INTO WHAT WHO WAS CONSIDERED AND WHO APPLIED AND WHO WAS INTERESTED IN SERVING ON THAT BOARD. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: DOES OUR STAFF KNOW THAT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, WE'RE NOT PART OF THE PROCESS. IN THIS PARTICULAR BOARD, THE MAYOR SENDS RECOMMENDATIONS TO COUNCIL AND COUNCIL ACCEPTS OR REJECTS. >>COUN. GROUT: OKAY. THANK YOU, FOR THAT CLARIFICATION. I KNOW, PERSONALLY, I KNOW THERE ARE TWO OTHER PEOPLE THAT HAVE ALSO ASKED TO SERVE ON THIS BOARD. ONE IS FROM MY DISTRICT. AND ONE IS IN, I THINK, DISTRICT SEVEN. I THINK THERE NEEDS -- I THINK WE NEED TO SPREAD IT AROUND. I THINK HAVING THREE PEOPLE FROM THE SAME DISTRICT, ESPECIALLY ON THIS BOARD, SMALL BUSINESS, I THINK IT SHOULD BE REPRESENTING EVERYBODY AROUND THE CITY. THIS IS AN IMPORTANT ONE TO DO THAT. I DON'T HAVE ANY -- COULD WE DEFER THESE? I WOULD LIKE TO DEFER THESE TWO AND REEVALUATE. I HAVE NOTHING AGAINST THESE FOLKS. I THINK THERE'S -- WE NEED TO BE THINKING ABOUT THAT. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR CHAMPINE TO DEFER. ANY QUESTIONS ON THE DEFERRAL? EC-248. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. JUST TO CLARIFY, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE'S ANY REQUIREMENT FOR THIS BOARD TO HAVE REPRESENTATION FROM EACH COUNCIL DISTRICT. I KNOW WE DO HAVE SOME THAT DO REQUIRE THAT. IS THERE SOME RATIONALE FOR THAT? I KNOW YOU'VE BEEN AROUND -- I'M JUST CURIOUS WHY THIS BOARD DOES NOT HAVE THAT REQUIREMENT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, I DON'T KNOW THE ANSWER TO THAT. WE'LL LOOK AT ALL OF THIS AND LOOK THROUGH THAT. THESE ARE THE MAYOR'S RECOMMENDATIONS OR APPOINTMENTS. I CAN HAVE OUR GROUP THAT WORKS ON BOARDS AND COMMISSIONS GIVE US CLARITY ON THAT ISSUE. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I THINK THAT SOUNDS LIKE A FIX FOR THE FUTURE. I DON'T SEE ANY REASON TO HOLD UP THESE APPOINTMENTS TONIGHT. THANKS FOR THE TIME. >>COUN. LEWIS: QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? EC-248 HAS BEEN MOVED AND SECONDED FOR DEFERRAL. I GUESS TWO WEEKS. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: NO. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: NO. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: NO. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> THAT PASSES ON A 6-3 VOTE. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. AGAIN, I JUST THINK -- I UNDERSTAND, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, I UNDERSTAND HAVING THREE WHEN THERE ARE SIX POSITIONS AVAILABLE AND HAVING THREE IN ONE DISTRICT, THAT'S A LOT. TWO IS GOOD. THREE IS A LOT. I THINK -- I DO KNOW THERE ARE OTHER PEOPLE THAT HAVE EXPRESSED AN INTEREST. WE JUST NEED TO LOOK AT THAT A LITTLE BIT MORE. I KNOW WE DID THAT WITH ANOTHER BOARD. WE JUST DEFERRED IT FOR A COUPLE WEEKS AND WE'RE BACK AT IT. I'D LIKE TO DEFER THIS ONE AS WELL. 249. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOVED AND SECONDED BY COUNCILOR BASSAN. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION ON THE DEFERRAL? [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: NO. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: NO. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: NO. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES ON A 6-3 VOTE. >>COUN. LEWIS: ANNOUNCEMENTS. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: THERE WILL BE AN INTERGOVERNMENTAL LEGISLATIVE RELATIONS COMMITTEE MEETING ON WEDNESDAY NOVEMBER 6 AT 3 P.M. VIA ZOOM. AND THERE WILL BE A LAND USE PLANNING AND ZONING COMMITTEE MEETING AT 5:00 P.M. IN THE VINCENT E. GRIEGO BASEMENT LEVEL. THIS WILL BE A HYBRID MEETING. >>COUN. ROGERS: THERE WILL BE A LOCAL GOVERNMENT COORDINATING COMMISSION SUBCOMMITTEE TO DISCUSS THE OPIOID SETTLEMENT SUGGESTIONS THIS FRIDAY NOVEMBER 8 AT 5 P.M. IN THE CITY COUNCIL COMMITTEE ROOM ON THE 9th FLOOR. IT IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND IS ALSO AVAILABLE HYBRID. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE'LL GO TO FINANCIAL INSTRUMENTS. COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. O-24-51 IS ON ORDINANCE AUTHORIZING THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE TO PROVIDE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ASSISTANCE TO KRS POWER LLC UNDER THE LOCAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ACT. THEY WILL RECEIVE $3.5 MILLION FROM THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO, AND $300,000 FROM THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. WE APPROVED THE SALE OF $300 MILLION IN INDUSTRIAL REVENUE BOND. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOVED AND SECONDED BY COUNCILOR GROUT. COUNCILORS -- FIRST OF ALL, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO -- THE DIRECTOR IS HERE AND REPRESENTATIVES FROM KAIROS. I'LL GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO SAY A FEW WORDS IF YOU LIKE. >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, I'M THE DIRECTOR FOR ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. WE'RE FULLY PREPARED TO GIVE THE FULL PRESENTATION FOR KAIRO POWER, INCLUDING THE STAFF SUMMARY. THIS IS THE SISTER LEGISLATION TO WHAT WAS PASSED I BELIEVE ON AUGUST 16th, OR SEPTEMBER 16th. AT THAT POINT WE PASSED THE IRB, THE INDUSTRIAL REVENUE BOND. THIS IS THE LOCAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT ACT FUNDING ASSOCIATED WITH THE PROJECT. COUNCIL PRESIDENT, IF IT PLEASES YOU, WE CAN DO THE PRESENTATION. >>COUN. LEWIS: I THINK THAT'S A GOOD SUMMARY. I APPRECIATE IT. UNLESS COUNCILORS HAVE QUESTIONS ABOUT IT? QUESTIONS ON THE BILL. WE REALLY APPRECIATE YOU BEING HERE TONIGHT. WE'RE THANKFUL FOR WHAT YOU'RE DOING. WE WILL DO EVERYTHING WE CAN TO SUPPORT YOU ALL. WOULD THE COMPANY LIKE TO SAY A FEW WORDS? >> MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, I'M JOHN ROBERTSON, A MEMBER OF THE MANAGEMENT TEAM WITH KAIROS POWER. I THANK THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE, STATE OF NEW MEXICO, WE'RE LOOKING FORWARD TO OUR PARTNERSHIP AND INVOLVEMENT IN THE COMMUNITIES IN WHICH WE LIVE AND WORK AND SERVE. AND THANK YOU FOR YOUR CONSIDERATION. >>COUN. LEWIS: USUALLY BY THE TIME SOMETHING GETS TO HERE IT'S BEEN THROUGH A LONG PROCESS. I KNOW YOU HAVE BEEN IN A LONG PROCESS ALREADY AND BEEN THROUGH COMMITTEES AND THE COUNCILORS DISCUSSED THIS AND HEARD THIS. WE APPRECIATE ALL YOU'RE DOING. THANK YOU. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MR. PRESIDENT, I BELIEVE NEW MEXICO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT IS HERE. THEY'RE PART OF IT. IF THAT'S OKAY WITH YOU, MR. PRESIDENT? >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I'M REGIONAL REPRESENTATIVE OF THE STATE OF NEW MEXICO ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT. WE FULLY SUPPORT THIS PROJECT. THEY'RE A MODEL EMPLOYER, THEY RECRUIT OUT OF THE INSTITUTIONS OF HIGHER LEARNING AND THEY'RE DOING GREAT THINGS IN ALBUQUERQUE FOR WAGES AND HEALTH CARE. THEY DO 100 REIMBURSEMENT ON HEALTH CARE WHICH IS PRETTY COOL FOR A COMPANY. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? BACK TO COUNCILOR ROGERS TO CLOSE. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. LEWIS: MADAM CLERK. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: NO. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES ON AN 8-1 VOTE. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE'RE GOING TO APPEALS. THIS IS AC-25. BARELAS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION APPEALS THE HEARING TO APPROVE CONDITIONAL USE OF DRIVE-THROUGH FACILITY FOR THE APPROPRIATE AT 310 CÉSAR CHÁVEZ. WE'LL HAVE OUR STAFF GIVE AN INTRODUCTION TO THIS. AND ACCEPT OR REJECT THE -- MS. RONQUILLO. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS. THE ISSUE IS WHETHER A CONDITIONAL USE APPLICATION SHOULD BE APPROVED TO ALLOW A DRIVE-THROUGH AT A RESTAURANT WHICH WILL BE DEVELOPED AT 310 CÉSAR CHÁVEZ BETWEEN 3rd STREET AND 4th STREET. THIS IS IN DISTRICT TWO. THE APPLICANT PLANS TO DEVELOP A DUNCAN DONUTS. IT'S A PERMISSIVE USE, BUT THE DRIVE THROUGH IS CONDITIONAL USE. THE ZHE APPROVED THE DRIVE THROUGH AND THE BARELAS NEIGHBORHOOD ASSOCIATION APPEALED CITING UNSAFE TRAFFIC CONDITIONS AND CHALLENGING A TRAFFIC STUDY AND TRAFFIC DATA THAT WERE PRESENTED BY THE APPLICANT. THE LAND USE HEARING OFFICER RECOMMENDS THE COUNCIL DENY THE APPEAL AND UPHOLD THE DECISION TO APPROVE THE DRIVE THROUGH. THE LUHO FOUND THE APPELLANT FAILED TO DEMONSTRATE THAT THE USE WILL HAVE A SIGNIFICANT ADVERSE IMPACT AND THEY DID NOT CREDIBLY OR COMPETENTLY DISPUTE THE -- FINDINGS. THE APPLICANT PROVIDED TRAFFIC IMPACT STUDY THAT WAS REVIEWED AND EVALUATED AND APPROVED. THE LUHO FOUND THEY FAILED TO REBUT THAT STUDY OR SHOWED THAT THE ZHE ERRORED. THE LUHO FOUND THE DECISION IS SUPPORTED BY SUBSTANTIAL EVIDENCE AND SHOULD BE UPHELD. THIS IS ACCEPT OR REJECT. SO, WE WILL NOT HEAR FROM THE PARTIES. JUST MYSELF, AND I'M HERE TO ANSWER ANY QUESTIONS. >>COUN. LEWIS: ANY QUESTIONS, COUNCILORS? DISCUSSION ON THE THE APPEAL? ALL RIGHT. I'LL MAKE A MOTION TO ACCEPT THE LUHO RECOMMENDATION FINDINGS. MOVED AND SECONDED. ANY DISCUSSION ON THE MOTION? ALL RIGHT. MADAM CLERK. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: NO. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES ON AN 8-1 VOTE. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE'RE ON GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. YOU CAN PROVIDE PUBLIC COMMENT IF YOU SIGNED UP PER THE AGENDA AND ON OUR WEBSITE ON FRIDAY. WE'LL HAVE TWO MINUTES FOR THE COUNCILORS. ADDRESSED THROUGH THE COUNCIL PRESIDENT. ANY DISRUPTIVE COMMENT WILL RESULT IN REMOVAL FROM THE MEETING. CALL THE FIRST SPEAKER. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS THOMAS, FOLLOWED BY NICHOLAS. >> THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME, COUNCIL. I BROUGHT YOU TODAY A PIECE FROM A FILM I WORKED ON LAST WEEK. I WAS IN YOUR DISTRICT, COUNCILOR BASSAN. I SPOKE WITH A MEMBER OF YOUR DISTRICT NAMED GABBY. SHE LIVES UNDER GROUND AND HAS FOR FOUR YEARS. WE SPOKE TO HER BECAUSE I WANTED TO MAKE SURE WE TAKE HER VOICE TO THIS COUNCIL. I'M VERY CONCERNED THAT WE AREN'T LISTENING. I THINK IT'S UNDERGROUND. THAT'S WHERE SHE IS. I'M CONCERNED FOR HER. WE'VE GOT WORDS FROM HER. I'D LIKE TO PLAY THEM FOR YOU. THEY GIVE US LESS THAN 60 SECONDS. IF YOU HAVE THAT SHORT OF TIME TO BANG SOME SENSE INTO THESE GUYS HEADS, WITH WHAT WOULD YOU SAY? >> WE DIDN'T CHOOSE TO COME OUT HERE. WE HAD A SERIES OF UNFORTUNATE EVENTS HAPPEN. WE'RE STILL SOMEBODY'S DAUGHTER, MOTHER FRIEND WHATEVER. WE JUST HAD A SERIES OF UNFORTUNATE THINGS HAPPEN. BECAUSE WE'RE OUT HERE, WE'RE SUBHUMAN. WE'RE NO LONGER CONSIDERED HUMAN BEINGS. WE GET TREATED LIKE DIRT. WE GET TREATED LIKE ANIMALS. IT TURNS INTO A VICIOUS CYCLE. WE WANT OUT OF THIS LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. IT'S HARD. IT'S REALLY HARD WHEN PEOPLE LOOK AT YOU AS SOMETHING NOT EVEN HUMAN ANYMORE. IT'S -- EVERYBODY HAS A STORY AND EVERYBODY HAS A PAST. WE'RE ALL JUST TRYING TO LIVE. WE'RE ALL TRYING TO LIVE OUR LIVES LIKE EVERYBODY ELSE. >> WE DON'T HAVE LONG TO TALK. >> AS YOU HEAR, SHE'S VERY FAR OUT OF REACH FROM MOST OF THE RESOURCES WE HEARD FROM TONIGHT. THERE'S 3,000 PEOPLE UNHOUSED AND THEY CAN'T HAVE ANYWHERE TO STAY FOR THE NIGHT. A LOT OF THEM ARE WOMEN AND THEY DON'T HAVE FEMININE CARE OR ACCESS TO RESOURCES PROVIDED. OUR PEOPLE ARE VASTLY OUT NUMBERED. THEY NEED MORE HELP. MORE RESOURCES. OPIOIDS, THIS SECOND GENTLEMAN, ALL THESE PLACES -- WE NEED TO PUT EVERYTHING WE CAN TO HELPING GABBY. SHE'S OUT OF EVERYONE'S REACH. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE YOU SENDING THAT TO US. I LISTENED TO THE WHOLE VIDEO. AND GABBY SOUNDS LIKE A WONDERFUL PERSON. ONE THING I NOTICED SHE DID SAY ALSO WAS THAT SHE DID NOT HAVE PROVIDERS REACH OUT TO HER. AGAIN, THAT'S THAT STREET OUTREACH. SHE DID SAY ACS CAME OUT AND HANDED A FLIER AND GAVE HER WATER. WE NEED TO DO MORE. >> IT'S VERY HARD TO FIND PEOPLE WHO ARE HIDING. IT'S NOT EASY TO FIGURE OUT HOW TO FIND THESE PEOPLE. WE HAD THE CONVERSATION TO MAKE SURE THERE'S RESOURCES LIKE VOUCHERS AND FOOD AND BLANKETS TO GET TO THE PEOPLE. ALSO OUTREACH CENTERS BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE MENTAL HEALTH PROVIDERS COME OUT. AND THOSE PEOPLE LEAVE WHERE THEY GO AND CONGREGATE. AND YOU'RE ABLE TO TRACK PEOPLE BETTER BECAUSE YOU'RE NOT GOING TUNNEL TO TUNNEL. THERE'S A LOT OF WORK IN THERE. THANK YOU FOR LETTING ME PRESENT THIS. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. MR. PADILLA -- >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE YES. I JUST WANT TO BE CLEAR FOR THE PUBLIC THE REQUEST WAS MADE TO PLAY AN AUDIO. THAT'S NOT ALLOWED UNDER OUR RULES. THE AUDIO WAS PLAYED BECAUSE COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN AGREED TO PLAY IT. I JUST WANT THE PUBLIC TO KNOW YOU CAN'T PLAY AUDIO, YOU CAN'T PLAY VIDEO. YOU CAN REQUEST A COUNCILOR PLAY IT FOR YOU. I JUST WANT TO MAKE SURE EVERYBODY KNOWS THAT. >>COUN. LEWIS: IF YOU HEAR YOUR NAME, HE'LL CALL SEVERAL NAMES AT A TIME. YOU'RE WELCOME TO COME DOWN AND SIT IN THE FRONT ROW AND BE READY TO SPEAK. >> NICHOLAS, FOLLOWED BY COURTNEY, FOLLOWED BY ANAMI. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILORS. THIS WEEK MY FRIEND WHO JUST SPOKE A MOMENT AGO RECORDED THE AUDIO FOR THE FILM PROJECT AS I FILMED AND PROVIDED A FOOD BOX TO HER. I WANT TO POINT TO WHERE SHE SAID THE FIRST THING WE SHOULD USE IS, WHICH I HEARD FROM MANY OTHERS IS HOTEL VOUCHERS. THE 15 YEARS OF HOMELESSNESS SHE'S SAID SHE HEARD THE OFFERS BUT NEVER SEEN ONE. THIS GOES WITH FEMININE CARE WHICH IS RARELY GIVEN FOR UNHOUSED. I ASKED WHY ISN'T THE CITY DOING ENOUGH TO PROVIDE STREET OUTREACH AND TEMPORARY HOUSING SOLUTIONS WITH TRANSPORT, SUPPLIES AND EMPLOYER OR SOCIAL SERVICES. I WISH THE COMMUNITY WOULD BE MORE CONCERNED. ONCE ALL THE MONEY AND PAPERWORK GOES WHERE IT NEEDS, I SAY PLEASE LOOK OUT FOR THE PERSON NEXT TO YOU WHO MIGHT HAVE A HARD TIME, YOU NEVER KNOW HOW FEW MISHAPS YOU FALL UNTIL YOU GET STUCK. LEND AN EAR WITHOUT FEAR. THANK YOU, KINDLY. >> COURTNEY FOLLOWED BY ANAMI, FOLLOWED BY MARSLEN. ANAMI, FOLLOWED BY MARSSON FOLLOWED BY LISA. >> THESE SOUTHEAST AREA COMMAND AGAIN HAS GONE UP. AFTER MY COMMENT, SUDDENLY METRO SECURITY WAS DEALING WITH ENCAMPMENTS AND APD WAS DEALING WITH ENCAMPMENTS AND THE USE FORCE WENT DOWN. METRO SECURITY DOESN'T HAVE USE OF FORCE DATA PUBLICLY AVAILABLE. THAT'S A HUGE ISSUE IN TERMS OF PEOPLE'S CIVIL RIGHTS. AND ACCORDING TO APD DURING THE SEPTEMBER HUMAN RIGHTS BORE MEETING 5.5% OF THE FORCE INCIDENTS INVOLVING PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS LATER ARE DETERMINED TO BE OUT OF POLICY BY THE FORCE REVIEW BOARD. THAT IS MORE THAN TWICE THE RATE OF PEOPLE WITH HOUSES OR UNKNOWN HOUSING STATUS. HAVE YOU SEEN THE NEW DRAFT OF THE ENCAMPMENT POLICY? IF I MAY ASK A QUESTION, HOW LONG AGO -- I CAN'T ASK QUESTIONS. >>COUN. LEWIS: YOU TIME TO TALK. YOU GOT TWO MINUTES. >> APPRECIATE IT. THE NEW POLICY IS GOING TO DRAMATICALLY INCREASE THE AMOUNT OF INTERACTIONS APD HAS WITH PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS. PART OF THE REASON IT DOES THAT IS IT CATEGORIZES MOST ENCAMPMENT AS PRIORITY ONES, MEANING THEY WON'T RECEIVE NOTICE WHEN THEY HAVE TO BE MOVED BY APD -- EXCUSE ME, BY SOLID WASTE WITH APD ESCORTING THEM AROUND THE CITY. THE OFFICE OF CIVIL RIGHTS DOESN'T IS EMPLOYEES AT THE MOMENT. THEREFORE THERE'S NO FUNCTIONALITY TO THE DISCRIMINATION COMPLAINT PROCESS THAT YOU APPROVED WITH O-24-5. IT'S A HUGE ISSUE AND A REASON WHY I DO SO MUCH FOR THE HUMAN RIGHTS BOARD. THANK YOU. >> MARSEN, FOLLOWED BY LISA, FOLLOWED BY LISA. >> I SPEAK TODAY ABOUT THE MENTIONED POLICIES ON ENCAMPMENTS. WHERE DOES THIS ADMINISTRATION GET THE IDEA THAT DESTROYING THE ONLY SHELTER PEOPLE HAVE WILL IMPROVE THEIR LIVES AND HELP THIS CITY IN ANY WAY? WHY DID THEY DECIDE WINTER, ONE OF THE DEADLIEST TIME, TO ROLL OUT DESTABILIZING THESE POLICIES. IT'S ALMOST LIKE THE ADMINISTRATION WROTE THESE POLICIES WITHOUT EVER ACTUALLY CONSIDERING THE VOICES OF THOSE AFFECTED. I ASSUME THE ONLY VOICES THE MAYOR AND HIS ADMINISTRATION LISTENED TO WERE THOSE WITH PROFIT INCENTIVE IN THE MATTER. THIS DRAFT AND IN THE RHETORIC WE'RE HEAR ABOUT THE ATTEMPTS OF PROVIDING THE BEDS AND CITY SHELTERS. I ENCOURAGE ANY OF THE MEMBERS OF THIS COUNCIL OR ADMINISTRATION TO GO USE ONE OF THESE SHELTERS. GO USE ONE OF THESE BEDS. SEE WHY PEOPLE DON'T USE THEM. I POINT TO THE DEATHS THAT HAPPENED AT THE WEHC AND HOW POOR MANY OF THE CENTERS ARE RUN AND ASK PEOPLE ON THE STREET WHY THEY DO NOT GO THERE. YOUR ATTEMPTS AT MARKED-BASED SOLUTIONS TO HOMELESSNESS ONLY SUCCEEDED IN LINING THE POCKETS OF NGO AND DEVELOPERS THAT PROFIT THESE ATTEMPTS. HOW MUCH HAVE WE SPENT ON THE GATEWAY CENTER? THE COUNCIL REJECTED SOUND POLICY LIKE RENT CONTROL AND REFUSED TO INVEST IN PUBLIC HOUSING THAT WOULD ENSURE THOSE WHO NEED SHELTER GET IT. THOSE WHO MAY BE ON THE EDGE DON'T BECOME UNHOUSED EITHER. THE PROBLEM IS WE MIGHT SOLVE ALL THESE ISSUES BY PUTTING BEDS OUT THERE, BUT YOU DON'T DO THINGS LIKE RENT CONTROL, YOU DON'T HELP THE SUPPLY OF HOUSING. PEOPLE ARE BEING GOUGED FOR HOUSING. THAT IS HOW YOU STOP PEOPLE GOING FURTHER INTO HOMELESSNESS. THE MORE THIS COUNCIL AND ADMINISTRATION SHOWS IT'S FACE WE UNDERSTAND THE POLITICIANS DON'T CARE UNLESS THERE'S A SUBSTANTIAL CAMPAIGN CHECK FOR THEM. >> LISA FOLLOWED BY ISSA, FOLLOWED BY MAMA-Z. ISSA, FOLLOWED BY MAMA-Z FOLLOWED BY DAVID. >> GOOD EVENING. I'VE BEEN WORKING DOING OUTREACH ON THE STREETS SINCE 2013. FRANKLY, AND RESPECTFULLY, I FEAR FOR THE SAFETY OF THE PEOPLE ON THE STREETS THAT I WORK WITH. THEY FEEL OVERWHELMED, DESSERTED ANGRY. I HEAR FROM THE PEOPLE ON THE STREET THAT I WORK WITH THAT THEY'RE REGULARLY SUBJECTED TO INSULTS, THREATS, INJURY, AND AT TIMES EVEN DEATH AT THE HANDS OF THE HOUSED. DISPLACEMENT SETS THE TONE THAT PEOPLE CAN BE STIGMATIZED BY DEMANDING THAT PEOPLE NOT BE PRESENT WITHIN A BLOCK OF CENTRAL. THE ENCAMPMENT POLICY PROPOSES PUSHING PEOPLE FURTHER INTO RESIDENTIAL AREAS. THIS WILL HEIGHTEN THE TENSIONS BETWEEN THE HOUSED AND PEOPLE WHO LIVED PRECARIOUSLY. THE CITY STILL IS NOT ABLE TO OFFER RESOURCES. THESE RESOURCES SIMPLY DO NOT XIT RIGHT NOW. THIS MEANS THE DRAFT POLICY WILL SIMPLY CONTINUE TO CONDONE THE CITY ADMINISTRATION WASTING MONEY AND FUND DISPLACEMENT AND EXACERBATING THE RESULT ON THE STREETS. NO PRODUCTIVE OUTCOME. >> MAMA-Z FOLLOWED BY DAVID, FOLLOWED BY JUSTICE. DAVID FOLLOWED BY JUSTICE FOLLOWED BY KHLOE. >> HELLO. I JUST CAME TO SAY THAT I'M DISGUSTED, ANGERED AND BOTHERED BY THE AWFUL ATTEMPT TO MAKE LIVING -- SIMPLY LIVING, ILLEGAL. I'M TOLD TO HELP OURSELVES OUT, PULL OURSELVES UP BY OUR BOOTSTRAPS, I DON'T SEE ANYONE, I DON'T SEE KNOW COUNCIL MEMBERS EVER IN THE FRONT LINES HELPING PEOPLE OUT THERE, FEEDING, CLOTHING, HANDING OUT SHELTER. I DON'T SEE ANYONE -- DON'T WE ALL HAVE SOMEONE WHO IS HOMELESS AND ON DRUGS. I LOVE PEOPLE WHO ARE HOMELESS. I LOVE PEOPLE WHO ARE ON DRUGS. IF WE DON'T DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT IT'S GOING TO EXACERBATE THE ENTIRE SITUATION AND NOT GOING TO LEAD PROPER COMMUNITY. IT'S EASY TO BUILD COMMUNITY. I DO IT. I DO IT WITH NOTHING. I ONLY GOT A BAG. AND I STILL FEED MORE PEOPLE THAN MOST PEOPLE DO. IT DOES NOT MAKE MUCH TO HELP PEOPLE. IT IS DUS GISTING THAT WE ALL CAN'T DO IT TOGETHER. THE SIMPLE HUMAN RIGHT TO SLEEP INSIDE. THE SIMPLE PLACE TO BUT OUR BELONGING FOR A DAY TO GET A JOB. THERE'S NOTHING BEING DONE. AND YOUR CHOPPING OUR HANDS OFF AND TELLING US TO FIGHT THE WIND. I AM SO SAD, HOW CAN PEOPLE WHO ARE SO WARM AND PRIVILEGED NOT EVEN SEE IT. NOT EVEN THE PAST THE FACT THAT WE'RE COLD. MOST OF US HAVE NOT BEEN COLD ENOUGH. AND THE MORE COLD WE GET AND THE MORE WE UNDERSTAND HOW IMPORTANT IT IS TO BUILD COMMUNITY. AND PUT OUT A REACHING HAND AND PULL SOMEBODY UP. IT'S NOT THAT DIFFICULT. I FIND IT COMPLETELY -- I'M ANGRY AND BOTHERED. IT BREAKS MY HEART THAT THIS HAPPENED. IT SHOULDN'T HAVE -- POLICIES BEING PUSHED THROUGH SO SILENTLY. DISGUSTING, UPSETTING, AND ALL I CAN SAY IS HOPEFULLY WE CAN DO THIS AND BUILD TOGETHER AND GROW IN LOVE. AND WHAT WE'RE DOING RIGHT NOW IS NOT LOVE. >> JUSTICE FOLLOWED BY KHLOE, FOLLOWED BY MAMA-Z. >> HOMELESSNESS IS A SOLVABLE ISSUE. POLICIES THAT BANISH ENCAMPMENTS OF PEOPLE WHO EXPERIENCE HOMELESSNESS IS NOT A SOLVABLE WAY OF GOING ABOUT THIS. IT'S NOT EVEN A STEP IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION. MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCIL, GROWING UP THERE'S ALWAYS BEEN ONE PARTICULAR PRINCIPLE OF WORK ETHIC INGRAINED IN ME. THAT IS THE MENTALITY OF PULLING YOURSELF UP BY THE BOOTSTRAP THE BELIEF THAT ANY CHALLENGE CAN BE OVERCOME IF YOU PUT ENOUGH HARD WORK, THE ASSUMPTION IS YOU ALWAYS HAVE A ROOF OVER YOUR HEAD AS YOU NAVIGATE LIFE'S CIRCUMSTANCES. EVERYTHING IS THAT MUCH HARDER WITHOUT A HOME, MOST OF US DON'T EVEN GIVE THAT DISPOSITION A SECOND THOUGHT. YET PARADOXICALLY, I HEAR THAT SAME HARDLINE PRINCIPLE AS A REACTION WHENEVER ALBUQUERQUE'S HOMELESS PROBLEM, QUOTE-UNQUOTE, IS BROUGHT UP. IT'S HARD TO SEE PEOPLE SUFFERER. BUT FORCIBLY REMOVING THE SITE OF SUFFERING DOESN'T MAKE IT GO AWAY. IT'S A SHAMEFUL THING WHEN THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE IS CURRENTLY PROPOSING ENCAMPMENT POLICIES THAT DISPLACE INDIVIDUALS, SHELTERING IN TENTS RATHER THAN EMPOWERING WITH THEM WITH STABILITY. HERE'S THE DEMAND, BRING THE POLICY TO THE FLOOR. PUSH IT TO THE PUBLIC WHERE WE HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO DISCUSS IT WITH THE FUNDAMENTAL COMPASSION AND BELIEF THAT EVERY HUMAN BEING WITHIN OUR SOCIETY, WITHIN OUR COMMUNITY IS OF VALUE REGARDLESS OF WHO WE ARE OR WHO WE ARE NOT. POLICIES LIKE THESE ARE THE INTERNALIZATIONS OF THE PULL YOURSELVES UP BY THE BOOTSTRAPS MENTALITY, THAT IS NOT APPLICABLE WHEN YOU DON'T HAVE A ROOF OVER YOUR HEARD. OR A TENT TO GUARD YOU FROM THE COLD. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> KHLOE, FOLLOWED BY TREVOR, AND MAMA-Z. THANK YOU. >> FROM THAT POINT ON -- YOU HAVE TO [ INAUDIBLE ]- I'VE GOT A PHONE. >> MAMA-Z FOLLOWED BY TREVOR, FOLLOWED BY JANICE. >> WE DON'T LIKE SHELTERS. WE'RE NOT ANIMALS. I STAYED AT EVERY SHELTER HERE, GUYS. COME ON. IT GETS FRUSTRATING COMING HERE OVER AND OVER AGAIN. TRYING TO REALIZE THAT WHAT YOU SHOULD JUST PUT AT THE TOP OF THIS NEXT PHASE IS HUMAN RIGHTS VIOLATIONS. I'VE BEEN TALKING FOR A LONG TIME SINCE 2019, IN FACT TOMORROW'S THE ANNIVERSARY WHEN THEY PASSED THE GATEWAY SHELTER FOR $14 MILLION. I SAT OUTSIDE LINDY'S AND I SAT AS KELLER WALKED BY. WHEN I SAY THAT I AM A SPOKESMAN FOR THE HOMELESS COMMUNITY, I MEAN IT. I'M NOT PLAYING. -- TONIGHT, I GOT A GIFT FOR EVERY ONE OF YOU. YOU NEED TO GO FUCK YOURSELVES. THESE ARE COCK RINGS FOR YOU YOU ALL. I LABELED ALL OF THEM. I'M DONE. TAMMY, NICOLE, BECAUSE YOU AGREED TO MEET WITH YOU, YOU DON'T GET ONE. >> TREVOR FOLLOWED BY JANICE FOLLOWED BY JAMES. >> PRESIDENT, COUNCIL, I'M HERE TO TALK ABOUT CAR DEPENDENCY. IT IS THE ZONING THAT KEEPS OUR DESTINATION AWAY FROM OUR HOMES. ABSENCE OF TRAILS AND SPACES. OUR DEPENDENCE RESULTS IN AIR POLLUTION. IT'S UNSAFE FOR CHILDREN AND PEDESTRIANS. AND HURTS THE POCKETBOOKS OF COMMON PEOPLE. IT COSTS -- THE COST OF LIVING IS ELEVATED BY CAR DEPENDENCY, IT CREATES VOLUNTARY EXPENSES. NOT ALL PEOPLE HAVE ACCESS TO CARS DUE TO FINANCIAL, MEDICAL REASONS. A PERSONAL CAR USE HAS THE DIRECT AND INDIRECT CLIMATE COSTS. EXHAUST IS A GREENHOUSE GAS. IMMENSE LOVE OF EMISSIONS, AND EV ARE NOT FREE FROM CRITICISM. AS LARGER VEHICLES REQUIRE LARGER BATTERIES PRODUCING MORE POLLUTION AND REQUIRING MORE RARE EARTH MINERALS. IT WILL HURT PEOPLE AND INCREASE THE PRICE OF GROCERIES AS A RESULT. THE HEALTH AND NUTRIENTS OF THE FOOD WILL DECREASE. ALSO, FURTHER INCREASING THE COST OF HEALTH CARE FOR COMMON PEOPLE AND IT ALSO HAS NEGATIVE HEALTH OUTCOMES. THIS AFFECTS PEOPLE'S LIVES AND WELL BEINGS. BREAKING CAR DEPENDENCE IS CRITICAL TO LOWERING THE PRICE OF LIVING AND IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR COMMON PERSON. LASTLY, PLEASE STOP ATTACKING UNHOUSED PEOPLE IN ALBUQUERQUE. >> JANICE, FOLLOWED BY JAMES FOLLOWED BY JANICE. >> START WITH A DISCLAIMER, THIS APPLIES TO ALL EVENINGS INSTEAD OF OUR TWO MINUTES WE ONLY HAVE ONE. I DON'T MEAN TO BE RUDE, BUT I MAY NOT HAVE TIME FOR FORMALITIES WHICH INCLUDES THINGS LIKE GREETING YOU OR GIVING INTRODUCTION. I DON'T MEAN TO BE RUDE, BUT I MAY NOT BE ABLE TO CIRCLE BACK TO POSITIVE ASPECTS OF THE ISSUE I'M TRYING TO HIGHLIGHT. I DON'T MEAN TO BE RUDE BUT I WILL NOT BE ABLE TO INCLUDE EVIDENCE-BASED PRACTICES OR RECOMMENDATIONS. I DON'T MEAN TO BE RUDE BUT I MAY RUN-OVER THE ALLOTTED TIME WHEN YOU PASS THE BUZZER AT THE END. TWO MINUTES IS HARD TO TALK ABOUT A COMPLEX SITUATION. I DON'T MEAN TO BE RUDE BUT IT'S HARD TO PREPARE WHEN I'M NOT SURE HOW MUCH TIME I HAVE. IT SEEMS I STILL HAVE TIME. >>COUN. LEWIS: I'LL LET YOU START OVER AND JUST GIVE YOU TWO MINUTES FROM HERE ON OUT. >> I APPRECIATE IT. TO PIGGY BACK ON WHAT FOLKS MENTIONED TONIGHT, I SUPPORT PROVIDING EMERGENCY MEDICAL HOUSING VOUCHERS TO ACS. WE NEED STREET OUTREACH ACROSS THE BOARD AS A MATTER OF FACT. THE GENTLEMAN MENTIONED THEY HAVE DOCUMENTARY WORK IN TUNNELS. I HAVE BEEN INTO THE DISTRICT SEVEN TUNNELS. THERE'S A DISTINCT NEED TO MEET PEOPLE WHERE THEY ARE AT. SOME OF THE FOLKS WHO WE FIND UNDERGROUND HAVE HAD VERY NEGATIVE ENCOUNTERS WITH HOSPITALS, FIRST RESPONDERS, COMMUNITY CENTERS, WE NEED FOLKS TO GO TO THEM INSTEAD. I FOUND A MAN IN A DISTRICT TWO ALLEY WAY. HE WAS WET AND SHIVERING. HIS HANDS WERE BLUE. IF HE WAITED MUCH LONGER HE WOULD HAVE GOTTEN HYPO THERMIA. I WAS ABLE TO GET HIM TO WALK. I DON'T LET PEOPLE INTO MY CAR. I TOOK HIM TO FATHERS BUILDING FUTURES. SHOUT OUT TO KATIE WHO HOOKED HIM UP WITH DRY CLOTHES AND A BATHROOM. I GAVE A SLEEPING BAG. I AM LOATHED TO THINK WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED IF IT HAD BEEN PAST THEIR BUSINESS HOURS SINCE ALL OF THE DAY CENTERS IN THE NEIGHBORHOOD WERE ALREADY CLOSED. ACS DOES NOT CARRY CLOTHING. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WOULD HAVE HAPPENED OR WHAT HAVED BECOME OF HIM. IT MAY HAVE TURNED INTO A 911 CALL INSTEAD. THE NEED FOR MORE FUNDING FOR ACS. I HAVE A DREAM THAT ONE DAY WE'LL HAVE ACS RESPONDERS WHO CAN COME WITHIN 30 MINUTES TO ANY PART OF TOWN WHO ARE WELL-EQUIPPED. I UNDERSTAND THEY CAN'T PROVIDE LONG-TERM CARE. JUST A SHORT-TERM THING THAT THEY'RE ABLE TO DO FOR PEOPLE THAT I HAVE WITNESSED IS REALLY AMAZING. I'VE SEEN THEM PROVIDE SUPPORT FOR ANIMALS. FIRST AID, WATER, FOOD. IT CAN BE AMAZING WHEN THEY HAVE THE TOOLS. THANK YOU. HAVE A GOOD NIGHT. I APPRECIATE THE EXTRA TIME. >> JAMES FOLLOWED BY JANICE FOLLOWED BY ANDREA. >> GOOD EVENING. I WANT TELL YOU A STORY ABOUT A SITUATION I WITNESSED A FEW HOURS AGO. I WAS AT THE HOPE WORKS, AND A NURSE RAN PAST ME. I FOLLOWED HER INTO THE SHELTER WHERE A PREGNANT WOMAN WAS HAVING SEIZURES. THE NURSE BEGAN TREATING HER AND THE STAFF MEMBER WAS ONLINE WITH 911. AFR CAME QUICKLY. EARLY INDICATIONS ARE THAT THE WOMAN WAS HAVING A MEDICAL EMERGENCY BECAUSE SHE WAS FORCED TO SLEEP OUTSIDE LAST NIGHT IN THE COLD WEATHER. AGAIN, I WOULD LIKE TO SAY THERE'S NOT ENOUGH BEDS AVAILABLE. ALL BEDS ARE NOT CREATED WEEKALLY. A BED DESIGNATED FOR MAN CANNOT BE CONVERTED INTO A BED FOR THE WOMAN -N SPUR OF A WOMAN. THE AGENCIES ENABLE HOMELESSNESS. THAT WOMAN AND HER BABY HAVE A GREAT CHANCE OF RECOVERING BECAUSE SHE HAD A MEDICAL EMERGENCY AT HOPE WORKS. I HOPE EVERYONE HAS THEIR MEDICAL EMERGENCY AT HEALTH CARE FOR THE HOMELESS. WHERE THERE CHANCES ARE INCREASED BECAUSE OF THE INCREDIBLE CARE OF THESE AGENCIES. HOW MANY PEOPLE WILL NOT SURVIVE THIS WINTER BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE MEDICAL EMERGENCIES AT AN AGENCY? I HOPE TO SEE EVERYONE AT THE RIBBON CUTTING ON THURSDAY AT THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH BUILDING AT HOPE WORKS. I REACHED OUT TO A LOT OF YOU AND GOT A LOT OF POSITIVE RESPONSE. THE BUILDING WILL BE INCREDIBLE AND WILL HELP THOUSANDS AND THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY. THANK YOU. >> JANICE FOLLOWED BY ANDREA FOLLOWED BY SARAH ON ZOOM. >> HELLO. I'M WITH ORGANIZED POWER IN NUMBERS. A LOT OF THE COMMENTS HAVE BEEN VERY DISHEARTENING, BUT I DO WANT TO SHOW OUR SUPPORT FOR THE APPRENTICESHIP EMPOWERMENT ORDINANCE. THIS IS ONE OF THE WAYS WE CAN GET ON THE FRONT END OF SOLVING ECONOMIC ISSUES. SOME OF THESE WORKER ISSUES THAT WERE CONFRONTED WITH EVERY DAY. WE THINK THESE WILL INCREASE THE TRAINING OPPORTUNITIES FOR -- CREATING GOOD JOBS FOR FOLKS TO BE A PATHWAY OUT OF POVERTY. AND ENDING GENERATIONAL CYCLES OF POVERTY. WE SUPPORT YOU INVESTING AS A CITY AND INVESTING IN OPPORTUNITIES AND TRAINING OUR FUTURE WORKFORCE THAT WE NEED VERY MUCH. ALSO, WE KNOW THERE'S SO MUCH INCOMING INFRASTRUCTURE DOLLARS. WE KNOW THERE'S EMERGENCY ENERGY INDUSTRY COMING. HAVING THESE KINDS OF POLICIES THAT ARE PRO-WORKER AND REALLY WILL BE INVESTING IN THE FUTURE ESSENTIALLY IS SOMETHING THAT WE SUPPORT AND WANT TO ENCOURAGE YOU TO GET BEHIND TODAY. THANK YOU. >> ANDREA FOLLOWED BY SARAH FOLLOWED BY NICOLE. >> GOOD EVENING, PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS. PUBLIC COMMENT THAT I'M MAKING TODAY IS IN REFERENCE TO INTERNAL ADMINISTRATIVE INSTRUCTION POLICY TO ADDRESS ENCAMPMENTS. RESPONDING TO ENCAMPMENTS ON PUBLIC PROPERTY. I WANT TO BELIEVE IN THIS ADMINISTRATION. I WORK FOR THEM FOR TWO AND HALF YEARS AS AN DATA ANALYST. IN ORDER TO DIRECT RESOURCES TO THOSE WITH THE GREATEST NEED, THOSE THAT NEED EVICTION SERVICES, I MAPPED EVICTION CLUSTERS THAT I GOT FROM THE METRO COURT DATA SO THAT THE ADMINISTRATION MIGHT USE A DATA-DRIVEN APPROACH TO PREVENT HOMELESSNESS DURING THE PANDEMIC. THAT DATA-DRIVEN APPROACH WAS NEVER USED BY WHAT WAS FAMILY AND COMMUNITY SERVICES. I DON'T BELIEVE DATA-DRIVEN APPROACHES ARE STILL BEING USED TO PREVENT HOMELESSNESS OR SERVE THOSE WITH THE GREATEST NEED. THERE ARE NO STANDARDIZED PROCESSES OR GUIDELINES ESTABLISHED AT THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE TO ENSURE A DATA-DRIVEN CULTURE WILL ALLOW A FACILITATE, IMCREASE THE IMPACT OF A PROGRAM THAT ARE PRODUCED BY THE ADMINISTRATION OR ESTABLISHED BY COUNCIL. I'VE BEEN REALLY -- I'VE BEEN EXCITED TO SEE THAT YOU ALL HAVE BEEN ASKING MORE QUESTIONS ABOUT IMPACTS AND ASSESSMENTS AND DATA. IT'S BEEN REALLY GREAT TO HEAR THAT RHETORIC COMING FROM THE COUNCIL, PARTICULARLY AROUND INTERVENTIONS FOR UNSHELTERED PEOPLE OR FOLKS THAT REALLY FACING OUTCOMES BECAUSE WE DO WANT TO SEE IF INTERVENTIONS ARE WORKING EFFECTIVELY. AND, YOU KNOW, I JUST DON'T HEAR THE ADMINISTRATION REALLY CREATING A TRANSPARENT APPROACH OR A DIRECTED APPROACH AND ENSURING THE PUBLIC IS ABLE TO SEE THOSE IMPACTS. I ENCOURAGE YOU TO TAKE THAT APPROACH TO THIS ADMINISTRATIVE ORDINANCE AS WELL. TO REALLY RECOGNIZE THE DISPROPORTIONATE IMPACT IT HAS ON INCREASING THE FINANCIAL ALLOCATIONS WE HAVE TO MAKE AS A CITY FOR TREATMENT AND SUPPORTING THEIR POLICY AND PROCESS. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. >> SARAH FOLLOWED BY NICOLE FOLLOWED BY MATT. >> GOOD EVENING, EVERYONE. MY THOUGHTS ARE SCATTERED. BUT TO ECHO WHAT ANDREA SAID, I APPRECIATE HEARING MORE ATTENTION TO WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE HOUSING SPACE. AND I WOULD LOVE TO SEE LESS FOCUS ON THE SYSTEMS AND MORE FOCUS ON SOLUTIONS. VERY EXCITED TO HEAR THAT THE SAFE OUTDOOR SPACE HAS BEEN APPROVED. WE CAN HAVE MORE OF THOSE. TO JANICES POINT ABOUT PEOPLE FREEZING. HAVING WARMING STATIONS WITHIN EACH DISTRICT, NOT USING COMMUNITY CENTERS AS A LAST RESORT, OR LIBRARIES. THEY PROTUP -- BROUGHT UP THE IDEA OF USING THOSE SPACES TO RESPECT PEOPLE'S FREEDOM OF MOVEMENT. PEOPLE HAVE BEEN RESIDING IN THE COMMUNITY KNOWING THEIR SHELTERS CANNOT MEET THE POPULATION NEED. I WANTED TO KNOW WHY THE DASHBOARD THAT WAS SHOWING THE HOUSING PROGRESS HAS NOT BEEN UPDATED SINCE JUNE. NOW WE HAVE THE DASHBOARD ABOUT SHELTERS AND NOW IT'S PROPOSED A DASHBOARD ABOUT THE DOLLARS. THE DASHBOARDS ARE GREAT BUT THE ACTION IS EVEN BETTER. REGARDING THE POLICY PROPOSED, THIS IS ANOTHER INHUMANE ATTEMPT TO SANITIZE OUR STREETS FROM PEOPLE EXPERIENCING POVERTY. WHO HAD THE QUESTIONS. AND THINGS TO SAY. WHEN ASKED WHAT SPACE DO THEY HAVE THAT WON'T TRIGGER PTSD, ANOTHER SAID IF THEY'RE PAYING DRIVERS TO THE WEST SIDE, HOW MUCH ARE THEY PAYING ME TO STAY THERE? WHAT AM I WORTH? A 65-YEAR-OLD, A GRANDMOTHER WHO HAS NO PRISON RECORD, IS NOT A PRISONER, DOES NOT WANT TO GO TO WHAT WAS A JAIL, SHE OFFERED ANOTHER SOLUTION. SHE SAID THE CITY SHOULD SAVE MONEY. SET UP A WALK THROUGH YOUTH INNOVATION -- SAVE US THE PAIN AND TRAUMA AND HARASSMENT THAT IT'S CAUSED. STOP DRAINING THE SYSTEM TO TAKE OUR LIVES. YOU PUT US HERE, SHOOT. YOU TOOK EVERYTHING FROM ME. TAKE WHAT'S LEFT. >> THANK YOU, SARAH. >> MY TIME UP? >> YES, IT IS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU, GOOD NIGHTED. >> NICOLE, FOLLOWED BY MATT. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILORS. SORRY, I DON'T HAVE VIDEO AVAILABLE. MY COMMENT IS NOT RELATED TO HOUSING. HOWEVER, I DO SUPPORT HOUSING FOR OUR UNSHELTERED CITIZENS. IT HAS BEEN EXPOROSISED -- EXPRESSED. MY COMMENT IS TO COUNCILOR LEWIS, AND I WANTED TO POINT OUT THAT COUNCILOR LEWIS REPORTED IN THE ALBUQUERQUE JOURNAL THAT HE THINKS THE $500,000 OWED BY THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN TO THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE IS A REALLY STUPID POLITICAL GAIN THAT SHOULD BE PAID BY THE TAXPAYERS. I ALSO FIND IT INTERESTING THAT COUNCILOR LEWIS INSISTS ON DISRESPECTING OVER 200,000 REGISTERED DEMOCRATS IN BERNALILLO COUNTY BY MISNAMING THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AS THE DEMOCRAT PART. COUNCILOR LEWIS MAY THINK THIS IS INSPIRED PERHAPS BY THE BRILLIANT MIND OF HIS PARTY'S LEADER THAT REDUCED POLITICAL DISCOURSE TO NAME-CALLING AND PLAYGROUND INSULTS. THE ORIGINS OF THIS WEIRD EXPRESSION IS ACTUALLY FOUND IN THE 1950s AROUND THE McCARTHY PERSECUTIONS. FOR AT LEAST 70 YEARS REPUBLICS WHO HAVE WANTED TO INSULT DEMOCRATS HAVE MISLABELED THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. IN 1956, CONSERVATIVE COLUMNNIST AND McCARTHY MENTOR WROTE, WHEN A POLITICAL PARTY IS LED TO BELIEVE THAT IT CAN DOWNGRADE ITS OPPONENT BY REMOVING AN AJECTIBLE SUFFIX FROM ITS NAME, IT REDUCES ITSELF TO CHILDISHNESS. >>COUN. LEWIS: THANK YOU. NEXT SPEAKER. >> MATT FOLLOWED BY JOAN, FOLLOWED BY SEPTEMBER. >> GOOD EVENING. I AM THE DIRECTOR OF ADVANCEMENT AND OPERATIONS. EN LACE, IS A DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SERVICE PROVIDER IN NEW MEXICO. WE VOICE OUR STRONG CONCERN ABOUT THE PROPOSED CHANGES TO THE INTERNAL GUIDELINES REGARDING RESPONSES TO ENCAMPMENTS TO UNSHELTERED NEIGHBORS. DESPITE IT FAILED WEEKS AGO, WE'RE DISHEARTENED TO SEE SIMILAR EFFORTS BE EXPENDED THROUGH THE GUIDELINE CHANGES TO DISPLACE AND CRIMINALIZE UNHOUSED INDIVIDUALS OR INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCES A MENTAL HEALTH CRISIS. AS WE KNOW, THESE PROPOSED CHANGES DO NOT ADDRESS THE ROOT CAUSES OF HOMELESSNESS, RATHER THEY FURTHER MARGINALIZE INDIVIDUALS EXPERIENCING COMPOUNDED CRISIS, RATHER THAN EXPENDING THE TIME AND RESOURCES OF THE SOLID WASTE DEPARTMENT, AND PUTTING STAFFERS IN SITUATIONS IN WHICH THEY'RE INADEQUATELY TRAINED, WE URGE THE CITY TO FUND AREA SERVICE PROOUDERS OFFERING TRAUMA-INFORMED HOUSING SERVICES WHILE ALSO INVESTING IN TRULY AFFORDABLE HOUSING FOR THE UNSHELTERED NEIGHBORS. THE EXTENT TO CORPORATE GREED MADE STABLE HOUSING A SCARCE RESOURCE MAKES IT DIFFICULT FOR LOW INCOME INDIVIDUALS OR INDIVIDUALS IN CRISIS INCLUDING DOMESTIC VIOLENCE SURVIVORS WHO ARE LEAVING AN ABUSIVE SITUATION TO FIND SECURE HOUSING. MOREOVER, THESE GUIDELINE CHANGES WILL TRAUMATIZE SURVIVORS, AND CONTRIBUTE TO THE FINANCIAL INSTABILITY. MAKING THEM MORE LIKELY TO RETURN TO AN ABUSIVE SITUATION. BY SHUFFLING UNHOUSED INDIVIDUALS TO UNDERRESOURCED AREAS AND FRAGMENTING SOCIAL CONNECTION, THE CITY WOULD MAKE IT DIFFICULT FOR UNHOUSED NEIGHBORS TO ACCESS THE RESOURCES THAT HELPED THEM TRANSITION TO SAFETY. WE STRONGLY URGE THE CITY TO CENTER COMMUNITY CARE AND NOT MOVE FORWARD WITH THESE REVISED CHANGES. THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> JOAN FOLLOWED BY SEPTEMBER FOLLOWED BY MADELEINE. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, AND COUNCIL MEMBERS. I'M HERE TONIGHT TO ASK FOR YOUR SUPPORT FOR THE APRESENTINGSHIP EMPOWERMENT ORDINANCE. I'M JOAN BAKER. I'M THE POLITICAL AFFAIRS DIRECTOR FOR UA LOCAL 411. AND THE SOUTHWEST PIPING INSTITUTE WHICH IS A REGISTERED APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM. IN THE CONSTRUCTION TRADES, WE'RE SEEING A RETIRING WORKFORCE FOR EVERY FIVE INDIVIDUALS RETIRING, ONLY ONE PERSON IS REPLACING THEM. THAT'S -- THAT HAS CREATED A NATIONAL SHORTAGE OF A HALF A MILLION INDIVIDUALS. ONE SURE WAY TO REPLACE THIS SKILLED WORKFORCE IS THROUGH REGISTERED APPRENTICESHIP. WE'RE EXCITED TO WELCOME ALL THE NEW BUSINESS LIKE THE ONE HERE TONIGHT. BUT WITHOUT REPLACING THE SKILLED TRADE WORKFORCE, WE WON'T BE ABLE TO BUILD WHAT THEY'RE ASKING US TO. REGISTERED APPRENTICESHIP IS BRO-BUSINESS. ACCORD AGO THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE A RETURN OF INVESTMENT OF EMPLOYERS IS AT 44.3%. IT IMPROVES PRODUCTIVITY AND, INCREASES SAFETY AND REDUCES TURNOVER. AS FAR AS PUBLIC BENEFIT, ACCORD TO THE DEPARTMENT OF COMMERCE, THERE IS A $28 RETURN ON INVESTMENT IN PUBLIC BENEFITS. JUVENILES WHO WERE JUSTICE INVOLVED, AND WENT INTO APPRENTICESHIP WERE TWO TIMES MORE LIKELY TO BE EMPLOYED. REGISTERED APRESENTSSHIP IS PRO-WORKING, PRO-BUSINESS, AND PRO-ALBUQUERQUE. I ASK YOU TO SUPPORT IT. >> SEPTEMBER FOLLOWED BY MADELEINE. >> HELLO COUNCILAL -- COUNCIL MEMBERS. I AM DISGUSTED TONIGHT. MY FELLOW CONSTITUENTS HAVE DONE A WONDERFUL JOB OUTLINES THE POLICIES IS CRUEL AND COLD-HEARTED. YOUR CONSTITUENTS HAVE COME OUT. THEY'RE ON THE GROUND MEETING PEOPLE AND FINDING PEOPLE WITH SLEEPING BAGS AND KEEPING PEOPLE ALIVE. THE CONSTITUENTS ARE DEMONSTRATING SOMETHING I CALL -- WHAT ABOUT YOUR ACCOUNTABILITY? WHAT DO YOU CALL IT WHEN PUBLIC OPPOSITION -- IS MET WITH BACKDOOR POLICY MASQUERMASQUERA. THANK YOU. >> MADELEINE -- IF YOU INTEND TO SPEAK, PLEASE PUT YOUR HAND UP WITHIN ZOOM. >> PLEASE PROCEED, MADELEINE. >> CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? >> WE CAN HEAR YOU. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. THERE IS AN INTERNAL GUIDELINE BEING SUGGESTED TO THE MAYOR BY THE CITY ATTORNEY. IT IS TO MAKE A BACKDOOR CITY POLICY TO CRIMINALIZE HOMELESSNESS. IT CATEGORIZES ENCAMPMENTS INTO THREE CATEGORIES. PRIORITY ONE CAMPS WILL BE DEMOLISHED. AND PRIORITY THREE IN 36. PRIORITY TWO CAMPS ARE JUST LABELED MORE THAN ONE TENT. AND THAT IS REALLY HARD FOR HOMELESS PEOPLE TO HAVE ANY SORT OF COMMUNITY OR STABILITY IF THEY'RE NOT ALLOWED TO HAVE ANYONE TO SUPPORT THEM. THIS POLICY IS BEING INTRODUCED AS AN INTERNAL GUIDELINE BYPASSING CITY COUNCIL APPROVAL AND PUBLIC SCRUTINY. SIDE-STEPPING ACCOUNTABILITY AND OPEN DEBATE. ALL THESE PEOPLE HAVE ARE TENTS AND WE'RE GOING TO CRIMINALIZE THAT? TODAY IT SNOWED. CAN YOU IMAGINE LIVING ON THE STREETS AND YOUR GOVERNMENT MAKES THE ONLY SHELTER YOU HAVE ILLEGAL? I'M FROM MICHIGAN, AND THIS IS HOW I WATCHED MY LOCAL GOVERNMENT KILL OFF OUR LOCAL HOMELESS POPULATION. SO THAT WE DID NOT HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THEIR EXISTENCE. THAT IS WHAT THIS WILL DO HERE. IT'S NOT GOING TO STOP MORE PEOPLE FROM BECOMING HOMELESS. THANK YOU. >> THANK YOU. MR. PRESIDENT, THAT CONCLUDES GENERAL PUBLIC COMMENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE'LL TAKE A 30-MINUTE BREAK. -- JUST A MOMENT. COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: I'VE BEEN GIVEN ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENT, I'D LIKE TO HEAR FROM THE ADMINISTRATION ABOUT A COUPLE QUESTIONS I'M GETTING FROM CONSTITUENTS AROUND THIS SPECIFIC POLICY. WHEN IS THIS GOING INTO EFFECT? IS THERE A CHANCE TO CHANGE COURSE? AND HOW CAN THE COMMUNITY BE INVOLVED IN DESIGNING THIS PROCESS? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, THIS POLICY IS A POLICY IN PLACE SINCE 2021. WE UPDATED IT IN 2022 AND WE'RE BRINGING CHANGES TO THE POLICY AND PRESENTED IT TO A COMMITTEE LAST WEEK, I BELIEVE IT WAS. AND WE'LL ALSO BE MEETING WITH MRAC ON NOVEMBER 19th, 18th OR 19th FOR CONTINUED FEEDBACK. MULTIPLE ITEMS SHARED IN THE COMMITTEE MEETING, WE HAVE ALREADY INCLUDED IN THE LANGUAGE. IT'S NOT THE VERSION THAT HAS BEEN WRITTEN DOWN, WE'VE TAKEN THE FEEDBACK AND HOW TO INCORPORATE IT. THIS IS NOT NEW POLICY COMING FORWARD. IT'S AN UPDATE TO THE POLICY WE HAVE BEEN HAVING ON THE BOOKS SINCE 2021. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. CAN YOU ALSO PROVIDE WITH YOUR FALSE A MAP ON WHERE PEOPLE ARE ALLOWED TO BE? BASED ON WHAT WE'VE HEARD FROM THE COMMUNITY, THERE'S NO PLACE BASED ON YOUR PEERS THAT PEOPLE ARE TO BE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO THAT NOW, BUT MAYBE INCLUDING THAT IN YOUR GUIDE. THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. WE'LL BE BACK AT 8 O'CLOCK. 30-MINUTE BREAK. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE'RE GOING TO GO THROUGH APPROVALS. ITEM 13. THIS IS EC-219. MAYORS RECOMMENDATION FOR THE BIO PARK. CHILDREN'S FANTASY RENOVATION. I MOVE APPROVAL. MOVED AND SECONDED BY COUNCILOR ROGERS. ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? ADMINISTRATION, ANYTHING TO SAY? >> MR. PRESIDENT, JUST TO ENCOURAGE YOUR SUPPORT APPROVAL. THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCIL, ANY QUESTION OR DISCUSSIONS? >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I HAD A QUICK QUESTION ON THIS ONE. THIS IS $5 MILLION FOR A CHILDREN'S FANTASY GARDEN IN THE BIO PARK. IS THIS ALREADY APPROPRIATED TO ARTS AND CULTURE? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, MY UNDERSTANDING IS THIS IS ALREADY IN THE MASTER PLAN LIST OF PROJECTS THAT COMES THROUGH AND HAS BEEN PREVIOUSLY IN THEIR PLANS. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU. YOU KNOW, I REMEMBER WHEN WE WERE UP HERE DURING THE BUDGET PROCESS AND WE WERE FINDING MONEY TO LITERALLY FEED THE ANIMALS, AND NOW WE'RE SPENDING $5 MILLION ON THE GARDEN. IT SEEMS SUSPECT ON THE GRAND SCHEME OF BUDGETING FOR THE CITY. >>COUN. LEWIS: OTHER DISCUSSION? ALL RIGHT. THAT'S MY CLOSE. MADAM CLERK. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: [ INAUDIBLE ]. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: NO. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: NO. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES ON A 7-2 VOTE. >>COUN. LEWIS: EC245 IS AUTHORITIATION FOR SOCIAL SERVICE AGREEMENT FOR CHICANOS POR LA CAUSA FOR 24-7 FOR GATEWAY WEST. MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR ROGERS. ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? >> WE DID HAVE LISA SIGNED UP, BUT I DO NOT SEE HER PRESENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: OKAY. ADMINISTRATION, ANYONE ON THIS? >> MR. PRESIDENT, WE'RE VERY HAPPY THAT CHICANOS POR LA CAUSA HAS BEEN IDENTIFIED AS AN OPERATING FOR THE GATEWAY WEST. WE LOOK FORWARD TO THIS PARTNERSHIP AND I THINK IT WILL BE AN INCREDIBLE OPPORTUNITY FOR US TO IMPROVE THE ENVIRONMENT, OPERATIONS, AND SERVICES PROVIDED. >>COUN. LEWIS: THESE ALL SAY BY REQUEST. OKAY. EC-245. COUNCILORS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. JUST HAVE A QUICK QUESTION ABOUT -- IT GOES BACK TO THE SAME QUESTION WITH THE EXTENSION FOR THE WEST SIDE SHELTER FOR THE OPERATOR. I DON'T SEE A TRANSITION PLAN IN THIS CONTRACT OR IN THE CONTRACT WITH THE WEST SIDE SHELTER. WHAT IS THE TRANSITION PLAN? >> MR. PRESIDENT, WE HAVE -- >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, THANKS FOR THE QUESTION. WE'RE CURRENTLY WORKING WITH THE CURRENT PROVIDER, HEADING HOME, AND HOPEFULLY THE NEW PROVIDER, IF YOU SELECT THEM TONIGHT, ON A PROCESS OF WHAT THAT WOULD LOOK LIKE. WE'LL MEET WITH THE PROVIDER EVERY WEEK. AND MEETING WITH THEM TOGETHER. THE TRANSITION PLAN IS BASICALLY TO PHASE ONE IN AND ONE AT THROUGHOUT OVER THE PERIOD OF TWO MONTHS. WE'RE REALLY EXCITED ABOUT IT. I THINK IT WILL WORK WELL AS LONG AS WE HAVE ALL THE PLAYERS AT THE TABLE. WE WANT TO MAKE SURE THEY'VE MET EACH OTHER AND THEY'RE GOING TO BE WORKING WITH OUR STAFF TO BE ABLE TO IDENTIFY EXACTLY WHAT THAT TIMELINE LOOKS LIKE. WE'LL MEET REGULARLY AND THEN OVER THAT PERIOD THE IDO -- IT'S FOR OUR NEW PROVIDER TO BE HIRED UP. THEY CAN BE COMPLETELY HIRED AND WE'LL PHASE IN THERE STAFF AND WE'LL WORK TOGETHER AS A TEAM OVER THE SHIFT. AND IN MID-NOVEMBER WE'D LIKE FOR THE CURRENT PROVIDER TO BE ABLE TO GIVE NOTICE TO ALL THE CONTRACTORS. THAT'S WHAT'S TRICKY ABOUT THIS IS BOTH CONTRACTS ARE GOING TO HAVE TO CONTRACT EXTERNALLY FOR CUSTODIAL, ALL OF THE EXTERNAL SUPPORTS. HEADING HOME HAS TO GIVE NOTICE TO THOSE CONTRACT SKWRZS -- THEY'RE READY TO DO THAT. THEY'RE WILLING, EXCITED TO COME TO THE TABLE. THEY JUST NEED THIS TO BE APPROVED TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD. >>COUN. ROGERS: THAT MEANS WE DON'T HAVE A PLAN RIGHT NOW? IT SOUNDS LIKE WE HAVE AN IDEA, WE'RE GOING TO MEET. CAN YOU GIVE ME A DETAILED TRANSITION PLAN? >> SURE. I HAVE A LOT OF DETAILS WRITTEN IN OUT ALL OF THE ITEMS THAT NEED TO BE TRANSITIONED. IT'S ALREADY WRITTEN OUT. I'D BE HAPPY TO PROVIDE THAT SHORTLY AND YOU CAN GIVE IDEAS ON THINGS WE'RE MISSING. WE'RE ALWAYS HAPPY TO HAVE FEEDBACK. IT WILL BE IMPORTANT TO GIVE THEM HOW THE IMBURSEMENT PROCESS WORKS AND THE REPORTING PROCESS. WE HAVE A CONTRACT DRAFTED. WE JUST NEED APPROVAL FROM THIS BODY TO MOVE THAT CONTRACT FORWARD. >>COUN. ROGERS: I THINK MY POINT IS THERE IS NO CONTRACTTUAL OBLIGATION FROM EITHER OF THESE PROVIDERS TO BE ABLE TO DO THE TRANSITION. THAT FRIGHTENS ME. I'VE BEEN VOCAL SINCE MARCH, DIRECTOR RAMIREZ, AND THE FAILED RFPs THAT LED UP TO THIS, I'M EXCITED TO BE HERE, DON'T GET ME WRONG. BUT I'M JUST REALLY WORRIED ABOUT THE TRANSITION. NEITHER OF THOSE CONTRACTS HOLD EITHER OF THEM TO ANY TRANSITION BECAUSE YOU DIDN'T WRITE IT IN THEIR CONTRACT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: EC-245. CAN WE PUT ALL BY REQUEST ON THESE? I THINK IT BY DEFAULTS COMES TO ME, I THINK THE ADMINISTRATION THOUGHT IT WAS IMPORTANT ENOUGH THAT IT'S BY REQUEST. >> MR. PRESIDENT, ECs DON'T COME IN BY REQUEST. THE ADMINISTRATION SUBMITS THEM TO THE COUNCIL AND SINCE COUNCIL CAN'T AMEND BECAUSE IT'S EXECUTIVE COMMUNICATION. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. JUST A CLARIFICATION. YOU SAID THAT THE CURRENT GROUP THAT'S WORKING THERE HAS CONTRACTS OUT WITH CERTAIN SERVICES? THE NEW ONE COMING IN IS GOING TO COVER ALL THAT? I MISUNDERSTOOD WHAT YOU SAID. THEY HAVE TO WRITE UP NEW CONTRACTS FOR THE SAME CONTRACTORS WORKING? SO, HEALTH CARE FOR THE HOMELESS IS MOVING OUT AND WE'RE REPLACING IT WITH SOMETHING ELSE? BUT THE DOLLARS AND CENTS SAY IT'S GOING TO BE DOING ITS OWN STUFF NOT SUBCONTRACTING. AM I MISREADING THAT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, YOU'RE NOT MISREADING THAT. THEY'RE ABSOLUTELY GOING TO BE CONTRACTING SOME SERVICES OUT AND SOME SERVICES THEY'LL TAKE INTERNAL. THAT'S SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT FROM THE CURRENT PLAN. WHAT THEY'LL TAKE IS THE CUSTODIAL SERVICES. THE CITY OVERSEES AND PAY FOR THE SERVICES. THEY'RE GOING TO BRING THATTERNAL THROUGH THE CONTRACT. THE MEDICAL TRANSPORTATION AND REGULAR TRANSPORTATION ARE ALSO GOING TO BRING INSIDE THEIR CONTRACT. IT'S GOOD OR US BECAUSE IT'S CHALLENGING. HAVING THE CONTRACTOR TAKE CARE OF BOTH COMPONENTS WILL BE MORE EFFECTIVE OF SUPPLYING GATEWAY WEST. THE SECURITY THEY'RE GOING TO CONTRACT OUT. AND HEADING HOME CONTRACTS OUT SECURITY. THEY'VE BEEN TALKING TO EACH OTHER. HOPEFULLY YOU GUYS APPROVE THIS BECAUSE THEY'RE TALKING TO EACH OTHER. THEY PROBABLY WILL BE TALKING TO SOME SIMILAR CONTRACTORS. THEY MAY GO WITH DIFFERENT CONTRACTORS. HEADING HOME DOESN'T HAVE ENOUGH LINEN CONTRACTS TO DO WHAT THEY NEEDED TO DO. THEY'RE WORKING WITH A VERY SMALL PROVIDER WHO CAN'T KEEP UP WITH THE WORKLOAD REQUIRED FOR THAT FACILITY. THIS CONTRACT WOULD HAVE THE ABILITY TO HIRE A PROFESSIONAL SERVICE AND DO A COMPREHENSIVE JOB. THAT'S GOOD SO THAT WILL BE A DIFFERENT PROVIDER. THE DORM MONITORING THEY'LL BE DOING INTAKE AND CLIENT REFERRALS. THEY'LL BE DOING FOOD DISTRIBUTION. THEY WON'T BE THE CATERER FOR THE FACILITY. WE'RE KEEPING THE EXTERNAL CONTRACT FOR CATERING. I'D LOVE TO BRING THAT INTERNAL TO THE CONTACT TOO. THEY CAN TAKE OVER ALL OF THE CONTRACTS EXCEPT FOR LINEN AND MAYBE CUSTODIAL, I'D LIKE TO BRING THAT INTERNAL. IT'S A GREAT QUESTION OF WHICH PIECES ARE GOING TO BE CONTRACTED OUT AND WHICH ARE NOT. I THINK THAT'S ALL. JUST CUSTODIAL, TRANSPORTATION IS WHAT THEY'LL TAKE IN AND THEY'LL BE CONTRACTING OUT FOR SECURITY. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. MAYBE I'M READING IT WRONG. THE 7.1 ANNUAL BUDGET FOR THIS, THEY WILL TAKE OVER THE TRANSPORTATION, CUSTODIAN SERVICES, MANAGED BY HHS AND TEMPORARILY STAFFED, LINEN CLEANING, REFERRALS, FOOD DISTRIBUTION, ALL THAT STUFF IS WHAT IT SAYS. IT'S NOT GOING TO DO ALL WHAT THIS SAYS? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE YES. THEY'LL BE DOING ALL OF THOSE THINGS. THE CURRENT PROVIDER DOES A LOT OF THESE THINGS BUT THEY HAVEN'T BEEN ABLE TO DO IT TO THE CAPACITY THEY NEEDED TO BECAUSE THE FUNDING STRAIN WASN'T ENOUGH TO COVER ALL THOSE THINGS. THEY'RE GOING TO DO DORM MONITORING, CLIENT MONITORING, TRACKING, CASE MANAGEMENT. THE SECURITY AND LINEN WILL BE CONTRACTED OUT. THEY'LL BRING THOSE PIECES IN TO SUPPORT THE FACILITY BUT THEY'LL BE WITH AN OUTSIDE CONTRACTOR. THEY'LL DO INTERNAL TRANSPORTATION, THEY'RE GOING TO HIRE DRIVERS TO BE THE MONITORS ON THE BUS AND DRIVING THE BUS. THE CUSTODIAL, LINEN AND SECURITY WILL BE EXTERNAL CONTRACTS. AT LEAST AT THIS TIME. >>COUN. LEWIS: ANYBODY ELSE? OKAY. EC-245. MOVED AND SECONDED. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE'RE ON FINAL ACTIONS. ITEM A IS COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE -- WE GOT ONE MORE. EC-254. SOCIAL SERVICE AGREEMENT WITH -- TO PROVIDE GUEST MANAGEMENT FOR GATEWAY WEST. I MOVE APPROVAL. MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR GROUT. ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK ON THIS? >> YES, MR. PRESIDENT. WE HAVE ANAMI SIGNED UP TO SPEAK. >> I MEANT TO SIGN UP FOR THE LAST ONE, SO NEVER MIND. >>COUN. LEWIS: ANYBODY ELSE? >> NO, MR. PRESIDENT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE'RE GOOD. COUNCILOR ROGERS. >> >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. WHO IS GOING TO BE SERVICES FOR THE OVER 200 SENIORS ABOVE 60 THAT I'M VERY WORRIED ABOUT? >> GOOD QUESTION. SORRY YOU'RE HEARING SO MUCH FROM ME TONIGHT. THE INTENTION FROM THE BREAKOUT OF THESE SERVICES IS THIS BODY ALLOCATED $750,000 FOR SERVICES. WHEN WE RECEIVED THE RFP WE REVIEWED THAT AND IN REVIEWING ALL OF THE APPLICANTS WE DECIDED IT WOULD BE BEST TO DISTRIBUTE THEM BY POPULATION. THIS PARTICULAR ITEM IN FRONT OFFIA GUYS TODAY IS GOING TO BE FOR UNDER 60. ANYBODY UNDER 60 IS GOING TO RECEIVE SERVICE FOR 200 PEOPLE A YEAR. UNDERSTAND THAT'S NOT EVERYONE. AND THEN THE ENSEMBLE IS THE PROVIDER OF SERVICES TO PEOPLE OVER 60. THEY HAVE A SMALL CONTRACT WITH TRIPLE-A AND THE SENIOR DEPARTMENT HERE IN THE CITY. WE'RE GOING TO SUPPLEMENT THAT WITH ANOTHER $200,000. THAT GIVES THEM $400,000. THEY CAN SERVE 150,000 ANNUALLY. YOU HAVE ENSEMBLE THAT WILL SERVE 150. THAT PUTS YOU AT 350. AND WE'RE GOING TO BRING AN M.A.T. PROVIDER. THEY BELIEVE THEY CAN SERVE 100 A YEAR. WE'RE HOPING TO DISTRIBUTE THE POPULATION BY SERVICE -- THE PARTICULAR EXPERTISE IN THAT SERVICE PROVIDER'S AREA AND BE ABLE TO SERVE EVERYBODY THROUGH THAT GATEWAY WEST. I BELIEVE 750 IS NOT ENOUGH TO PROVIDE AS MUCH CASE MANAGEMENT AS WE NEED. WE'VE NEVER HAD SERVICES THERE BEFORE AT ALL. THIS IS A REALLY BIG STEP UP. IT'S A REALLY BIG IMPROVEMENT FOR WHAT WE'VE SEEN BEFORE AND OUR HOPE IS BY SETTING THIS OUT AS A PILOT, YOU GUYS WILL BE ABLE TO SEE HOW MUCH WE CAN PROVIDE, HOW MANY WE CAN SEE A YEAR. WE CAN REALLY START TO TRACK THE METRICS OVER TIME. AND NEXT YEAR, IF WE BELIEVE THERE NEEDS TO BE MORE FUNDING WE CAN ALLOCATE IT. THIS GIVES US A GOOD BASELINE TO UNDERSTAND HOW MANY WE CAN SERVE WITH $750,000. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. IT'S AN EQUITY NIGHTMARE. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO DEAL WITH THAT. >> AND ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH. WE DON'T WANT TO DECIDE SOME PEOPLE SERVICES AND SOME PEOPLE DON'T. IT'S GOING TO SERVE INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE UNDER 60. THEY'RE GOING TO START WITH INDIVIDUALS WHO ARE BEEN THERE LONGER THAN 90 DAYS. THAT'S HOW WE DECIDED TO BREAK IT OUT. AND OVER 60 THAT'S GOING TO BE ENSEMBLE, THAT'S SERVING 150. THAT GIVES YOU A GOOD JUMP ON THE POPULATION TO START RECEIVING SERVICES. AND WHEN OUR NEW PROVIDER, HOPEFULLY WE CAN CONTRACT WITH THEM, IT'S STATE OF THE HEART. THEY CAN DO M.A.T. AND TRANSPORTATION INTO HOUSING. IF YOU CAN GET 100 PEOPLE ANNUALLY INTO HOUSING AND ON M.A.T. YOU'RE NOT DECIDING BASED ON EQUITY, YOU'RE DECIDING BASED ON WHAT THEIR NEED IS. IF THEY HAVE SUBSTANCE USE DISORDER, YOU DIRECT THEM TO STATE TO THE HEART. IF THEY'RE UNDER 60 AND HAVE BEEN THERE A LONG TIME, LET'S GET THEM WITH A CASE MANAGER. I BELIEVE WITH THEIR OPERATIONS CONTRACT AND CASE MANAGEMENT THEY'LL BE ABLE TO SERVE MORE THAN 200, THAT'S MY HOPE. WE'VE SET IT AT A CONSERVATIVE LEVEL. I BELIEVE THEY CAN DO SOME CASE MANAGEMENT INITIALLY WITH THE MONITORS AND TRANSFER OVER TO THE CASE MANAGEMENT TEAM OF THOSE THAT ARE UNDER 60. IT MAY NOT BE EVERY SINGLE PERSON THERE. THEY HAVE 660 A NIGHT. BUT WE'RE UP TO 500. I THINK THAT'S PRETTY GOOD. WE WANT TO SERVE PEOPLE THAT ARE THERE. INDIVIDUALS THAT ARE TRANSFERRING TO OTHER FACILITIES LIKE A TRANSITIONAL HOUSING PROGRAM OR INTO A DETOX OR ANOTHER SUBSTANCE TREATMENT DISORDER PROGRAM. WE CAN REALLY START TO HONE IN ON INDIVIDUALS THAT HAVE BEEN THERE A LONG TIME THAT HAVE HIGH ACUTETY AND HIGH NEED AND FIGURE OUT WHAT IT IS THOSE INDIVIDUALS NEED TO GET THEM TO THE RIGHT PROGRAM. >>COUN. ROGERS: HOW MANY PEOPLE AT THE WEST SIDE SHELTER HAVE BEEN THERE OVER 90 DAYS. >> JUST PULLED THE DATA RECENTLY, AND I BELIEVE IT WAS OVER 30% THAT HAD BEEN THERE LONGER THAN 90 DAYS. I CAN PULL YOU THE EXACT DATA. IT'S A GREAT QUESTION. IT'S IMPORTANT TO UNDERSTAND HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE PIN THERE LONG-TERM AND WHY. AND WHAT ARE THEIR PARTICULAR NEEDS. ONE OF THE THINGS I LIKE TO RECOMMEND TO THIS BODY IS TO HIRE A CONTRACTED AGENCY TO COME OUT AND ASSESS EVERY SINGLE PERSON AT THE GATEWAY WEST AND GET THEM A SOLID ASSESSMENT AND UNDERSTAND THEIR ACUITY AND NEED. IF YOU'RE LOWER NEED AND JUST BECOME HOMELESS OR YOUR MIDDLE ACUITY, OR HIGH ACUTETY AND NEED WRAPAROUND SERVICE. >>COUN. ROGERS: CASE MANAGEMENT WAS CONTRACTED AREN'T GOING TO DO THAT NEEDS ASSESSMENT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, ABSOLUTELY THEY'LL DO ASSESSMENTS WITH THE CLIENTS THEY'RE WORKING WITH. IF WE CAN HAVE A CONTRACTOR COME ASSESS EVERYBODY AT ONCE OVER A PERIOD OF THREE WEEKS. WE CAN GET EVERYBODY OUT TO THE CASE MANAGEMENT TEAM THEY NEED AND GET THEM ADDRESSED EFFECTIVELY. I THINK WHAT MIGHT MAKE SENSE IS HAVE THEM START WORK WITH CASE MANAGEMENT TEAMS AND IF WE HAVE CLIENTS THAT HAVEN'T BEEN ASSESSMENT WE CAN START WITH THE CONTRACT. I THINK YOU'RE RIGHT, IF YOU HAVE CPLC AND SIERRA IN THERE AND STATE OF THE HEART THAT'S THREE PROVIDERS THAT CAN DO ALL OF THE ASSESSMENT UP FRONT. LET'S SEE HOW THAT WORKS AND IF IT GOES WELL WE CAN BRING IN THE SECOND ASSESSMENT PROVIDER. >>COUN. ROGERS: LAST QUESTION. MEDICAL ONSITE. WHEN I DID MY POP UP VISIT, THERE WAS ONLY EMT BASIC. I'M AN EMT BASIC. IT'S NOT ADEQUATE FOR THE LEVEL OF ACUITY AT THE WEST SIDE SHELTER. WHAT ARE THE PLANS FOR ADVANCED EMT OR PARAMEDICS WHO CAN ADMINISTER MEDICINE FOR FOLKS WHO HAVE THEIR HEART STOP? BECAUSE EMT STOP IS ONLY ABLE TO DO CHEST COMPRESSIONS UNTIL AN AMBULANCE GETS THERE. WHAT'S THE PLAN FOR MEDICAL, SINCE IT'S NOT INCLUDED IN THEIR CONTRACT, WE'RE GOING TO CONTRACT FOR MEDICAL AND IT'S PLEASE TELL ME IT'S NOT BASIC LIKE WE HAD BEFORE. >> COUNCILOR ROGERS, THANKS FOR THE QUESTION. I WOULD PREFER TO HAVE HIGHER LEVEL OF MEDICAL PROVIDER. WE DO HAVE MEDICAL DIRECTOR THAT CAN SUPPORT THOSE INDIVIDUALS. BUT WE NEED NOT ONLY HIGHER LEVEL OF PROVIDERS. BUT WE NEED MORE PROVIDES. THEY'RE ADDRESSING THE CASELOAD. THE MEDICAL -- AND SO I THINK YOU GUYS ALL UNDERSTAND THE CHALLENGES WE FACE AROUND BUDGET. ABSOLUTELY, IF I COULD PROVIDE MORE MEDICAL SERVICES THERE I ABSOLUTELY WOULD. >> COUNCILOR ROGERS, IF WE CAN ADD TO THAT, WE STILL HAVE LEVERAGE PARTNERSHIP WITH FIRST NATIONS COMMUNITY HEALTH CARE AND ALBUQUERQUE HEALTH CARE FOR THE HOMELESS TO ADDRESS THOSE NEEDS. THEY HAVE A LOCAL PHARMACY AND OTHER ADDITIONAL SERVICES ONSITE. WE ARE DOING A LOT WITH GETTING MEDICAL RESPITE ONLINE AT GATEWAY CENTER. AND THAT'S GOING TO OFFLOAD 50 INDIVIDUALS WHO SHOULD HAVE NEVER BEEN AT THE SHELTER, BUT THERE WAS NO OTHER PLACES. SO, THERE'S A STRATEGY TO ADDRESS THAT. YOU'RE RIGHT, WE COULD ALWAYS HAVE MORE. >>COUN. ROGERS: WHAT ARE WE GOING TO HAVE AT -- I'M SORRY, GATEWAY WEST? FOR MEDICAL PERSONNEL, AS IS, WHO IS GOING TO BE THERE MAKING SURE WE'RE LOWERING THE NUMBER OF FATALITIES? >> MEDICAL DIRECTOR CONTRACTING, EMT BASICS, AND PARTNERS THERE DURING THE DAY. >>COUN. ROGERS: HEALTH CARE FOR THE HOMELESS IS ONLY THERE ONCE A WEEK. MEDICAL DIRECTORS AREN'T ONSITE ALL THE TIME. AGAIN, YOU'RE TELLING ME WE ONLY HAVE EMT BASICS? >> YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: ALL RIGHT. THIS IS EC-254. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? COUNCILOR GROUT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS TOO. DID HEADING HOME PROVIDE JANITORIAL AND SECURITY SERVICES? >> COUNCILOR GROUT, HEADING HOME PROVIDES A CONTRACTED SECURITY PROVIDER. AND THE CUSTODIAL IS COVERED BY THE CITY. >>COUN. GROUT: OKAY. THANK YOU. MR. PRESIDENT, WERE THESE SERVICES LISTED IN THE SCOPE OF SERVICES IN THE ORIGINAL RFP? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, YES, THEY WERE. >>COUN. GROUT: OKAY. WHY WAS THE OPERATING CONTRACT FOR THE WEHC REDUCED FROM 750 TO $233,000? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, THE NUMBERS YOU'RE REFERRING TO ARE A THE CASE MANAGEMENT NUMBER. THE 750 IS SEPARATE FROM THE OPERATING COST. IF WE'RE TALKING ABOUT THE CASE MANAGEMENT. THERE'S 750 ALLOCATED. THE 233 IS FOR THE NEXT EIGHT MONTHS UNTIL JUNE. THE FULL CONTRACT WE'RE GOING TO BE CONTRACTING WITH IS GOING TO BE 350 ANNUALLY. >>COUN. GROUT: OKAY. HOW WILL THIS IMPACT THE INTENDED SERVICES OUTCOMES OUTLINED IN THE RFP? 2024-WEHC? ARE THERE SPECIFIC SERVICES OR POPULATION GROUPS THAT WILL RECEIVE LIMITED SUPPORT AS A RESULT? >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, THANK YOU FOR THE QUESTIONS. THIS IS WHAT WE WERE TALKING ABOUT BEFORE WITH THE CASE MANAGEMENT AND MAKING SURE WE HAVE ENOUGH SERVICES TO SUPPORT EVERYONE IN NEED. THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE ANY CHANGES TO THE OBJECTIVES OUTLINED IN THE RFP. OUR INTENTION IS TO BE ABLE TO DIVIDE THE POPULATION INTO SUBPOPULATIONS BASED ON NEED. SUBSTANCE ABUSE, SENIORS, AND UNDER 60. THEY'LL BE PROVIDING THE SAME TYPES OF SERVICES AND OBJECTIVES OUTLINES IN THE RFP. >>COUN. GROUT: THE DEPARTMENT CONFIRMED WHICH RFP OBJECTIVES, IF ANY, WILL BE SCALED BACK DUE TO THE BUDGET ADJUSTMENTS? I KNOW THESE QUESTIONS -- I KEEP GOING OVER THE SAME THING. WE HAVE QUESTIONS. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, NOTHING WILL BE SCALED BACK. OUR HOPE IS WE'RE GOING TO PROVIDE ALL OF THE OBJECTIVES AND ALL OF THE REQUIREMENTS THAT WE'RE HOPING TO DO WITH THE FULL 750, IT WILL BE DIVIDED ACROSS MORE THAN ONE PROVIDER. >>COUN. GROUT: WHAT MECHANISMS WILL BE IN PLACE TO ENSURE THE CURRENT BUDGET ALLOCATIONS CAN ACHIEVE MEASURABLE OUTCOMES WITH A PERFORMANCE METRICS OUTLINED IN THE CONTRACT? VERY IMPORTANT. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, VERY IMPORTANT. I AGREE WITH YOU. I BELIEVE THAT DATA TRACKING AND DATA COLLECTION IS ONE OF THE MOST IMPORTANT THINGS WE DO IN ORDER TO UNDERSTAND OUTPUTS AND OUTCOMES. THE INTENTION IS TO MEET WITH PROVIDERS MONTHLY TO TAKE MONTHLY REPORTS AND MONTHRY REIMBURSEMENT FROM OUR PROVIDERS TO BE ABLE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY'RE DOING, HOW THEY'RE REACHING THE OBJECTIVES THAT ARE OUTLINED IN THE CONTRACT. THE PARTICULAR THINGS THAT WE'RE GOING TO TRACK ARE SPEND DOWN. WE WANT TO SEE HOW THEY'RE DOING TO SPEND DOWN THE ENTIRE CONTRACT AND IN THE WAYS ADDRESSED IN THE BUDGET AND CONTRACT. WE'RE MONITORING, WE'RE DOING ANNUAL AUDIT OF EACH PROVIDER. THEY'LL DO THE ASSESSMENT FOR BENEFITS, TRACKING BENEFIT ACQUISITION, TRACKING OF INDIVIDUAL TREATMENT PLANS, AND TRACKING INTO INTENSIVE CASE MANAGEMENT. THERE'S SEVERAL PERFORMANCE METRICS OUTLINED IN THE CONTRACT WE PROVIDED FOR YOU. A FEW THAT I WANTED TO IDENTIFY WERE 75% WILL HAVE HOUSING STABILITY AND 65% WILL HAVE ACCESS TO SERVICES. BASICALLY, YOU FOUND OUT HOW MANY INDIVIDUALS THEY'VE WORKED WITH THAT MUN MONTH AND WE FIND OUT HOW MANY ALLOCATED TO BENEFITS AND TRANSITION TO STABLE HOUSING AND TRACK THE METRICS AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE MEETING THEIR OBLIGATIONS. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. THIS IS GOOD. I REALLY WANT TO SEE THESE REPORTS MONTHLY. I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT. WE HAVE LOTS OF EYES ON IT SO WE CAN SEE IF SOMETHING IS MISSING. BECAUSE WE'RE SPENDING SO MUCH MONEY BUT WE'RE NOT SEEING RESULTS IN THE STREET. I DON'T LIKE SEEING PEOPLE ON THE STREETS. I DON'T LIKE SEEING WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THEM. I JUST DON'T LIKE IT. I THINK IT'S NOT HEALTHY. WE'RE SPENDING A TON OF MONEY ON THIS, BUT WE'RE NOT SEEING CHANGE. AND I WANT TO SEE CHANGE. I WANT TO SEE THESE PEOPLE HAVE BETTER LIVES. I WANT TO TO THEM ON A SOFT BED WITH A WARM BLANKET. I WANT TO SEE THEM IN A PERMANENT HOME. I WANT THEM TO GET BETTER. I WANT THEM TO BE HEALTHIER. WE NEED TO BE ABLE TO TRACK AND SEE WHAT WE'RE DOING WRONG AND SEE WHAT WE CAN DO BETTER. AND I THINK THE MORE PEOPLE -- I'M NOT AN EXPERT BY ANY MEANS, BUT I DO HAVE A HEART, AND I HAVE COMMON SENSE. IF THERE'S SOMETHING THAT WE'RE MISSING, WE NEED TO FIX THAT. I ALSO THINK THERE NEEDS TO BE SKIN IN THE GAME FOR THESE PEOPLE THAT ARE RECEIVING THESE. THEY NEED TO HAVE ACCOUNTABILITY AS WELL. THEY HAVE TO HELP TOO. I THINK THEY WANT TO. WE JUST HAVE TO GIVE THEM A LITTLE NUDGE. THANKS FOR ANSWERING ALL MY QUESTIONS. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MR. PRESIDENT, I CONCUR VERY MUCH WITH COUNCILOR GROUT ABOUT HOW WE WANT TO SEE THE REPORTING OF ALL THIS TRACKING. THE TRACKING SOUNDS GREAT, BUT IT'S KIND OF LIKE A NEW STUDY. YOU GET ALL THIS DATA AND WE NEVER SEE IT, WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S HAPPENING OR HOW TO MAKE ADJUSTMENTS TO IT. I WOULD LIKE TO SEE IF IT WORKS AND SEE IF IT'S ON TRACK TO CONFIRM IT WITH US. YOU MENTIONED THE THREE PROVIDERS. AGAIN, ALL OF THIS SOUNDS GREAT, I'M CURIOUS HOW IS THIS GOING TO IMPACT THE FUNDING AT THE GATEWAY, GIBSON GATEWAY, NOT GATEWAY WEST, NOT GATEWAY YOUTH. HOW IS THIS GOING TO CHANGE THAT? IF WE'RE PUTTING ALL THIS FUNDING BECAUSE ALL OF THIS SOUNDS REALLY POTENTIALLY PRODUCTIVE. I THINK THAT WOULD BE LOVELY. HOWEVER, WE HAVE ALSO BEEN TOLD FOR YEARS NOW THAT GATEWAY IS SUPPOSED TO BE DOING WHAT YOU'RE SAYING GATEWAY WEST IS GOING TO BE DOING. IS IT GOING TO BE A TRIAL AND WE'RE GOING TO MOVE IT TO BIG GATEWAY AND ASK FOR MORE MUNLY LATER? WHAT IS THE VISION ON THOSE TWO WORKING TOGETHER OR SEPARATE? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR BASSAN, IDEALLY YOU'RE LOOKING AT A CONTINUUM OF CARE. WE LOOK AT MEDICAL RESPITE. AT THE WEST FACILITY THERE SHOULD BE A RESPITE PROGRAM. AND WE TALK ABOUT INDIVIDUALS IN HOUSING NAVIGATION AND PREP FOR CASE MANAGEMENT. IT'S GOING TO TIE INTO THE SERVICES AT GATEWAY SERVICES. WE'LL PREP THEM AND GET THEM TO THE HOUSING NAVIGATION PROGRAM SO THEY CAN GET PERMANENTLY GET HOUSED. THE BEAUTY IS WE'VE SEEN THE ADVANCEMENTS WE'VE PUT INTO THE SHELTER, THANKS TO THE SUPPORT OF COUNCIL, MAKING THAT FACILITY MORE HUMANE. MOVING THEM INTO THE FACILITIES AT GATEWAY WHICH IS INCENTF OF NEXT LEVEL AND CONNECT THAT. I THINK WHAT WE'VE SEEN IN THE PAST IS WE HAD A SHELTER THAT WAS LIKE A BATH TUB THAT WAS BLOCKED. IT WAS OVERFLOWING. WE'RE TRYING TO HAVE A SYSTEM WHERE YOU SHOW UP, GET ENGAGED, AND LET'S GET YOU TO A PLACE WHERE YOU HAVE AN INCOME, CLEARED WARRANTS AND NEXT PHASE OF HOUSING NAVIGATION. HOUSING NAVIGATION TAKES PLACE AND YOU GET PLACED. THAT IS THAT CONTINUUM OF CARE. THE OTHER SERVICES IS THE RESPITE PIECE, OR CASES OF TREATMENT. WE HAVE SEVERAL PROVIDERS ONBOARD AT GATEWAY CENTER. THOSE ARE THE CONTINUATIONS WE WISH TO CONTINUE TO HAVE. AND DIVERT FAMILIES FROM THAT AND THE NEXT PIECE IS DIVERSION. ONCE YOU GET HOUSED, IT'S MAKING SURE YOU DON'T RE-ENTER THE UNHOUSED ARENA BY MAKING SURE WE HAVE ADDICTION PREVENTION RESOURCES. THEY WERE SILOED, THEY WEREN'T BILL. WITHIN A YEAR THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE ONLINE. THAT IS ULTIMATELY YOU THAT WILL ROLL OUT. >>COUN. BASSAN: RESPECTFULLY, THAT'S A LOT OF WORDS. I WANT TO SEE ACTION. AND I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT THE PLAN. I HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ABOUT ALL THIS. I GUESS THAT'S MY OVERALL POINT OF IT, IS THAT WE NEED TO SEE THE RESULTS. BECAUSE IN THAT, I GUESS I'M GOING TO ASK THE ADMINISTRATION AND OUR STAFF, CAN WE GET AN UPDATE, NOT TONIGHT, ON WHERE WE'RE AT WITH THAT BEAUTIFUL MEDICAL RESPITE AND SOBERING CENTER AT THE GATEWAY? I REALLY HOPE NO ONE IS GOING TO ASK FOR MORE MONEY FOR THOSE. IT'S ABOUT TIME THAT WE PROBABLY GET AN UPDATE ON ALL OF THAT. BECAUSE IF THIS IS PART OF THE CONTINUUM OF CARE AND ALL THE WORK WE JUST HEARD AND ALL THESE THINGS THAT ARE REALLY BEAUTIFUL, WHERES THE PRODUCTATIVITY? I ALSO THINK IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR US TO GET AN UPDATE ON HOW MANY PEOPLE ARE ACTUALLY BEING SERVED BY THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE NOT THE OTHER NONPROFITS AT GATEWAY. I DON'T KNOW. I'M GOING TO COME UP WITH A NEW NAME THAT I CAN STICK WITH A LITTLE BIT BETTER. I THINK WE NEED TO KNOW ALL THAT. IF WE'RE GOING TO BE DOING ALL THIS ON GATEWAY WEST AND MAKE IT WORK, THEN WHY FUNNEL MILLIONS OF MILLIONS OF DOLLARS ON GATEWAY ON GIBSON -- I FEEL LIKE WE'RE TREADING WATER EVEN THEN. I'M STILL WAITING TO SEE SOMETHING FOR IT. IF I'M STILL WAITING TO SEE SOMETHING FOR IT, I KNOW THE PUBLIC IS STILL WAITING TO SEE SOMETHING FOR IT. WITH THAT, THE OTHER QUESTION THAT I HAD, HOW WOULD CONTINUED ASSESSMENT OF EACH OF THOSE PROVIDERS -- PEOPLE ARE NOT ALWAYS THERE. YOU MENTIONED THAT IDEALLY YOU GET SOMEBODY CONTRACTED TO DO AN ASSESSMENT OF EVERYBODY AT ANY WAY WEST TO DO AN EVALUATION TO SEE WHERE THEY'RE AT AND WHAT THEY REALLY NEED IN ORDER TO GET ON THEIR FEET AND BECOME INDEPENDENT AND THRIVE. IS THAT JUST FOR THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE BEEN THERE OVER 30 DAYS OR 90 DAYS? THERE'S ALSO PEOPLE THERE, FROM MY UNDERSTANDING, THAT ARE VERY FLU -- FLUID. HOW ARE YOU GOING TO GUARANTEE THAT WE'RE NOT PUTTING A CONTRACT FOR SOMETHING THAT WILL NOT EXIST FOR ANOTHER WEEK BECAUSE OF THE FLUIDITY OF THE INDIVIDUAL? >> THANKS FOR THE QUESTION. I THINK IT'S COMPLICATED. I COME FROM A RESEARCH BACKGROUND. I ALWAYS RECOMMEND THAT I FEEL LIKE GETTING DATA IS THE MOST HELPFUL. A LOT OF PEOPLE ASK HOW LONG PEOPLE HAVE BEEN AT THE GATEWAY WEST, ARE THE DEMOGRAPHICS. AND I CAN'T REALLY TELL YOU. IF I CAN GET A RESEARCHER TO DO A QUICK ASSESSMENT OF EVERYBODY I CAN GET A BETTER PICTURE AND THE NEED. ONE OF MY CONCERNS IS THERE'S A FLUIDITY OF THE POPULATION. IT MIGHT -- I THINK WE'RE TRYING TO FIGURE OUT WHAT'S THE BEST WAY TO HANDLE THIS. IF YOU CAN BRING CASE MANAGEMENT PROVIDERS AND THEY CAN START TO WORK WITH THE CLIENT AND DO THE ASSESSMENT, THAT MIGHT MAKE MORE SENSE THAN ASSESSED AND HANDED OFF TO THE CASE MANAGER. I THINK IT'S DIFFICULT SOMETIMES TO SEE PROGRESS WHERE IT TAKES TO BUILD PROGRAMS. I WANT TO MENTION TO YOU THAT IT'S AMAZING WHAT'S HAPPENING. BUILDING A MEDICAL SOBER AND RESPITE, TO HAVE TWO SHELTERS OPENED IS AMAZING. WE'RE SEEING INCREASING NEED OF UNSHELTERED MRAPGSZ POPULATIONS ACROSS NEW MEXICO AND THE COUNTRY. THIS ISN'T A LOCAL PROBLEM. TO BE ABLE TO BUILD THESE PROGRAMS AS THE ENTRY INTO THE CONTINUUM OF CARE. AND ALL OF THE SYSTEMS ALONG THE WAY OF THAT CONTINUUM, THERE'S GOING TO BE MORE SUCCESS. WE HAVE PLACES LIKE MEDICAL RESPITE, AND THE LANGUAGER TERM SHELTER, NOT 90 DAY NOT JUST EMERGENCY SHELTER LIKE GATEWAY WEST. WE HAVE TRANSITIONAL SHELTER, AND YOU BUILD OUT YOUR STABLE HOUSING AND AFFORDABLE HOUSING. I'M EXCITED TO SEE THIS SYSTEM GROW. I THINK FUNDING IS WHAT'S NEEDED TO BUILD OUT THE SYSTEM. I THINK WE'RE GROWING AS A COMMUNITY, AS A NATION AND ADDRESSING THE PROBLEM. >>COUN. BASSAN: JUST A COUPLE MORE QUESTIONS. I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU SAID. I DON'T WANT TO SOUND TOO HARSH ABOUT IT. I DON'T THINK I'M LOOKING FOR THAT DATA. BECAUSE FROM EVERYTHING WE'RE HEARING FROM THE PUBLIC, FROM THE EMAILS, FROM THE PHONE CALLS, I FEEL PRETTY CONFIDENT IN SAYING THAT THE GATEWAY WEST PROBABLY HAS SOMEONE IN NEED OF EVERY SINGLE WHATEVER IT IS THAT YOU WOULD BE ASSESSING. AND UNTIL WE ELIMINATE SOME OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT DO NOT HAVE THAT NEED ANYMORE BECAUSE WE'VE CONNECTED THEM, AND WE'VE GOTTEN THEM INTO A THRIVING ENVIRONMENT, THEN I CAN SEE US NEEDING TO ASSESS WHAT'S REMAINING AND WHAT NEEDS ARE REMAINING. UNTIL THEN, WE HAVE A NEED FOR EVERYTHING. SO, MY NEXT QUESTION IS DO WE KNOW, AND IF WE DON'T I'D LOVE TO FIND OUT AND GET THE INFORMATION AND THIS DATA WOULD BE BENEFICIAL, HOW MANY TRANSITIONAL HOUSING ORGANIZATIONS OR DRUG TREATMENT ORGANIZATIONS AND NONPROFITS OR ALL OF THE THINGS YOU TOLD US EARLIER ON THE CONTINUUM OF CARE, HOW MANY OF THOSE EXIST? I KNOW OF A FEW. HOW MANY EXIST? BECAUSE I ALSO KNOW THAT WE CONSTANTLY ARE HEARING ABOUT THE NEED. WE NEED MORE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH TREATMENT FACILITIES. WE NEED MORE DRUG TREATMENT FACILITIES. WE NEED MORE TRANSITIONAL HOUSING FACILITIES. HOW MANY DO WE CURRENTLY HAVE? DO WE HAVE SOME? OR DO WE HAVE NONE? >> WE JUST RECENTLY FINISHED AN ANALYSIS OF RECOVERY HOUSING, THERE'S 800 TRANSITIONAL LIVING BEDS THROUGH DIFFERENT AGENCIES. THE REASON WE DID THAT STUDY IS BECAUSE WE WANTED TO LOOK AT WHAT NEED AND GAP IS FOR HIGHER ONSITE VERSUS RELAXED RESIDENTIAL LIVING. THAT IS CRUCIAL FOR US TO PUT INDIVIDUALS INTO THAT TRANSITIONAL HOUSING BECAUSE WE NEED EVERY BIT OF HOUSING AS NECESSARY. I'M HAPPY TO SHARE THE REPORT. IT DOES OUTLINE THE PIECE. WE'RE DOING NOT ONLY TRANSITIONAL LIVING ARENA, PERMANENT SUPPORTIVE HOUSING, AND THE GAPS WE'RE TRENDING. >>COUN. BASSAN: THIS WILL BE MY LAST ONE. I KNOW THIS IS GOING TO BE ANOTHER THING FOR ANOTHER DAY. OUT OF THE 800 TRANSITIONAL BEDS THAT YOU SAID HAVE BEEN IDENTIFIED, ARE ALL OF THEM FULL WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE IN NEED OF TRANSITIONING? >> COUNCILOR LEWIS, COUNCILOR BASSAN, SO, I CAN'T SPEAK TO IF EVERY SINGLE ONE IS FULL. IT LOOKED AT HOW MANY ARE AVAILABLE. I THINK ONE OF THE THINGS IT TAKES TO COST TO PLACE INDIVIDUALS THERE. WHEN WE LOOKED AT THAT ANALYSIS, IT'S LIKE THERE'S A PORTION OF THE FUND THAT'S LIKE WHAT COUNCILOR GROUT MENTIONED, THERE'S A STAKE IN THE GAME TO SAY I CAN PAY A PORTION OF THE RENT, MOST OF THE TRANSITION WILL PAY 100% OF YOUR RENT, WHEN YOU GET YOUR OWN JOB IT WILL PHASE IN. THERE'S DIFFERENT LEVELS, EVERYTHING FROM SITE-BASED FULL CLINICAL WHICH IS A PROGRAM WE'RE INITIATED. ALL THE WAY TO VERY PEER BASED AND PEER RAN WITHOUT SUPERVISED SITES. SAMSA AND HUD HOUSING HAVE RELEASED A BEST PRACTICES FOR HOUSING. WE LOOKED INTO AND THE LEVEL TWO OR HIGHER IS VERY SUCCESSFUL BECAUSE THE SERVICES ARE ON-SITE. AGAIN, SORRY I COULDN'T TELL YOU HOW MANY ARE FULL. WE KNOW THE BEDS ARE AVAILABLE AND THERE'S AN ONGOING ISSUE WITH HOW TO PAY FOR PLACEMENT. >>COUN. BASSAN: DIRECTOR, THANK YOU. THE POINT IS IF THERE'S AN ESTIMATED 3 TO 5,000 PEOPLE THAT ARE UNHOUSED IN ALBUQUERQUE, I DON'T SEE A REASON WHY ALL 800 OF THOSE BEDS SHOULD HAVE SOMEBODY IN THEM REGARDLESS OF THE DOLLAR AMOUNT. BECAUSE OUT OF 3 TO $5,000, SOME OF THEM MIGHT BE ABLE TO PAY MORE THAN OTHERS OR WHATEVER, SO WE CAN'T KEEP HEARING AND SAYING, LIKE WE NEED MORE BEDS WHEN THERE'S -- WE CAN FILL WHAT WE DO HAVE BEFORE WE START DOING MORE STUDIES AND BEFORE WE ARE DOING MORE EVALUATIONS. FILL WHAT WE HAVE, AND MAKE IT WORK AND MOVE ON. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. I HAVE ONE QUESTION. LAST YEAR, WE WERE TOLD THAT WE WOULD HAVE SOMETHING AT THE GATEWAY OPEN THIS YEAR. THIS MONTH. WHAT'S OPENING THIS MONTH AT THE GATEWAY? >> THIS PARTICULAR MONTH, COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR GROUT, THIS PARTICULAR YEAR WE HAVE RECEIVED CERTIFICATE OCCUPANCY FOR SOBERING. AND WE'RE WORKING ON FINAL SCOPES FOR THAT PROVIDER THAT WE PUT OUT. PREMEDICAL RESPITE AND EXECUTING THE OPERATING CONTRACT AND MOU FOR MIDRESPITE TO BE ABLE TO OPEN THAT. THAT'S STILL UNDER CONSTRUCTION. WE'RE NOT FINISHED BUT IT WILL BE CLOSE TO JANUARY. I WILL SAY, YOU'RE GOING TO SEE SOME OFFERS TO BE ABLE TO ATTEND SOME RIBBON CUTTINGS AND OPENINGS FOR THOSE EVENTS VERY SHORTLY. >>COUN. GROUT: SO, IF I HEARD YOU RIGHT, BECAUSE YOU TALK FAST. MEDICAL SOBERING HAS CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY AND YOU'RE JUST DOING THE FINAL STUFF AND WE'RE GOING TO BE THIS MONTH. >> NOT NOVEMBER, I'M HOPEFUL FOR DECEMBER. >>COUN. GROUT: THAT'S NEXT MONTH. I WILL BE THERE. AND MEDICAL RESPITE? JANUARY 2025? WHEN WILL YOU GET THE CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY FOR THAT MONTH? >> OUT OF MY CONTROL FOR CONSTRUCTION. I'M HOPING WITHIN THIS MONTH WE'LL HAVE IT TO BE ABLE TO MOVE FORWARD. I THINK WE'RE CLOSE. >>COUN. GROUT: DO YOU NEED HELP WITH GETTING THAT CERTIFICATE OF OCCUPANCY, LET ME KNOW. >> THANK YOU. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I JUST HAVE ONE QUESTION OR CLARIFICATION. THE OTHER NIGHT AT THE FGO MEETING I WAS ADVISED THAT THESE SERVICES THAT WE'RE DISCUSSING ARE ALREADY BEING OFFERED AT THE WEST SIDE THING, BUT THEN I WAS TOLD TONIGHT THIS IS THE FIRST TIME THESE SERVICES ARE GOING TO BE OFFERED. I'M CONFUSED. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, THE CURRENT OPERATOR IS PROVIDING OPERATING SERVICES AT THE GATEWAY WEST. ALSO, WE HAVE TWO PROVIDERS, HEALTH CARE FOR THE HOMELESS AND FIRST NATIONS THAT PROVIDE HEC SERVICES. THAT'S ALL. WE'VE NEVER HAD CASE MANAGEMENT SERVICES IN THIS FACILITY. THAT'S THE CONTRACT THAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU TONIGHT. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: I'M JUST CONFUSED. BECAUSE I WAS ADVISED THEY WERE DOING CASE MANAGEMENT AT THE WHEC FGO. I'M KIND OF CONFUSED NOW. THANK YOU FOR THE HELP CLARIFYING. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, IF I CAN MENTION, I THINK THE COMMENT WAS RELATED TO THE OPERATIONS THE OTHER NIGHT THAT WE'RE DOING THAT. IT'S THE SAME PROVIDER NAME IN BOTH THE OPERATIONS AND SOCIAL SERVICES. WE'VE HAD CONFUSION TRACKING THE CONTRACTS BECAUSE WE HAVE THE SAME PROVIDER NAME ON THEM. THE OPERATING CONTRACT WAS WHAT WAS SAID WAS ALREADY PROVIDING THE SERVICES BUT WE'RE REPLACING THEM. THIS CONTRACT IS NEW IN TERMS OF PROVIDING THE SOCIAL SERVICES TO THE SAME PROVIDER NAMES. I GOT CONFUSED WHEN WE HAD THE TWO AS WELL. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: THANK YOU. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I JUST WANT TO ADD ON TO WHAT COUNCILOR CHAMPINE WAS JUST ASKING. AT FGO, THE QUESTION THAT HE ASKED WAS IN THE DAY LABOR PROPOSAL DISCUSSION, WHERE WE WERE TALKING ABOUT ALL THE SERVICES THAT FOLKS ARE GOING TO BE IN THAT PROGRAM, BETTER WAY FORWARD, FOLKS ARE GOING TO BE IN THAT PROGRAM ARE GOING TO GET ALL THESE SERVICES. WRAPAROUND SERVICES. AND COUNCILOR CHAMPINE ASKED IF THEY'RE AT THE GATEWAY WEST, AREN'T THEY ALREADY GETTING THIS. HE WAS TOLD YES, NOT BY THESE TWO FOLKS. THESE ARE THE KIND OF THINGS THAT MAKE IT HARD TO UNDERSTAND WHAT'S HAPPENING BECAUSE IF WE ASK STRAIGHT QUESTIONS WE'RE NOT GIVEN THE CORRECT INFORMATION. >> MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, I THINK THE STATEMENT WAS ABOUT HAVING OPERATORS AND THE NEW SERVICES THERE THAT THESE ARE SERVICES THAT WILL BE THERE. IT WAS A STATEMENT TODAY VERSUS WHAT WE ANTICIPATE AND EXPECT TO BE HAPPENING AT GATEWAY WEST. IT WOULD BE INCORPORATED INTO THE SIMILAR POPULATION. >>COUN. LEWIS: COUNCILORS, ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR DISCUSSION? >>COUN. ROGERS: SORRY, MR. PRESIDENT. LAST THING. I DID NOT SEE MAINTENANCE. WHEN I DID MY POP UP VISIT, IT WAS NOT IN GREAT CONDITION. THIS CONTRACTOR, ACCORDING TO THIS CONTRACT, IS NOT REQUIRED TO DO MAINTENANCE. DOES THAT MEAN WE HAVE PUT AN ON-SITE MAINTENANCE PERSON TO STAY AND BE DEDICATED AT THE WEST SIDE SHELTER TO FIX THE THINGS THAT I SAW? >> COUNCIL PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS YES. OUR CITY IS HANDLING THE MAINTENANCE OF THE FACILITY. AND WE'RE GOING TO GROW THAT TEAM BY TWO MORE INDIVIDUALS TO DO THE WORK. WE UNDERSTAND IT'S NOT HAD THE CAPACITY TO KEEP IT. WITH THE INVESTMENTS WE'RE PRIORITIZING HAVING THAT DONE. >>COUN. LEWIS: ALL RIGHT. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES UNANIMOUSLY. >>COUN. LEWIS: WE'RE ON FINAL ACTIONS. ITEM A IS COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN AND COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. O-39. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. O-39 FLOOR SUBSTITUTE ADOPTIN AN ARTICLE FOR ESTABLISHING THE USE OF APPRENTICES FOR CONSTRUCTION CONTRACT. I MOVE A DO PASS. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOTION AND SECOND BY COUNCILOR ROGERS. LET'S GO TO PUBLIC SPEAKERS. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. OUR FIRST SPEAKER IS RON, FOLLOWED BY JIM, FOLLOWED BY ERIC. >> GOOD EVENING, MR. PRESIDENT, COUNCILORS. THANK YOU FOR HEARING ME TODAY. I AM LICENSED JOURNEYMAN WIREMAN. PROUD MEMBER OF THE IBEW AND PRODUCT OF THE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM. I'M IN MY FIFTH YEAR. IT'S BEEN A COMMITMENT. FIVE YEARS, FIVE HOURS A DAY. THE REASON I STAND IN SUPPORT OF THIS BILL AND THE REASON WHY IS BECAUSE TWO-FOLD. FIRST PART IS, WE ARE RUNNING OUT OF JOURNEYMAN. AS WAS MENTIONED BEFORE, WE'RE RUNNING OUT OF JOURNEYMAN. THERE'S NO RETENTION RIGHT NOW. AND THE BEST METHOD OF RETENTION WE HAVE RIGHT NOW IS THROUGH APPRENTICESHIP. MAKE COMMITMENT FOR FIVE YEARS TO STUDY, TO DO THE WORK, AND TO MAKE A CAREER OUT OF IT. I WANT TO GIVE YOU A SCENARIO OF TWO DIFFERENT CONTRACTORS. FIRST IS A GUY NAMED TIM, UTILIZES APRESENTSES. AND ALSO AS MUCH AS THE CONTRACTOR. THAT WAY SAFETY IS UPHELD FROM THE BOTTOM UP. THE WORK IS DONE RIGHT. YOU'VE WORKED IN THESE BUILDINGS, AND I SEE SOME THINGS. I CAN TELL WHO DIDN'T DO THE WORK. THE MONEY YOU MIGHT THINK YOU'RE SAVING BY HIRING BOB, WHO IS ANOTHER CONTRACTOR WHO HAS HIS LICENSE AND JOURNEYMAN AND A COUPLE FRIENDS THAT HELP HIM OUT, AND PAYS THEM A LITTLE BIT. THEY DON'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ELECTRICAL. THEY JUST KNOW WHAT BOB TELLS THEM TO DO. YOU'LL SEE ME BACK HERE REPAIRING WHAT BOB'S GUYS DID. THAT DOESN'T HELP THE CITY, THE BUDGET, THE CITIZENS OF THE CITY. I HEARD A LOT ABOUT TRANSITIONING HOMELESSNESS INTO THESE SERVICES. APPRENTICESHIPS ARE GOOD OPPORTUNITY FOR PEOPLE WHO JUST GOT BACK ON THEIR FEED TO GET INTO THE WORKFORCE. NOT JUST A JOB, BUT A CAREER THAT CAN KEEP THEM OFF THE STREETS. I KNOW MANY PEOPLE I WORKED WITH OUT FACEBOOK AND OTHER PLACES THAT'S HOW THEY GOT INTO THE PROGRAM. ONE THORE THING. I SEE THAT THE ORDINANCE WAS REWRITTEN AND SOME OF THE TEETH WAS TAKEN OUT AS FAR AS THE HOURS WERE DEMINGSED AND THE PENALTIES WERE NOT STICK TO THE TERMS OF THE AGREEMENT WERE TAKEN OUT. THAT DOESN'T HELP US. IT DOESN'T HELP US AT ALL. NOT US AND NOT YOU. I WOULD ASK THAT YOU GUYS VOTE YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: DO YOU MIND IF I HAVE A FEW QUESTIONS? >> SURE. >>COUN. LEWIS: YOU MENTIONED SOME OF THE TEETH WAS TAKEN OUT. WOULD YOU PREFER LIKE 50%? >> I WOULD PREFER 100%. THE TEETH I WAS TALKING ABOUT WAS IT WENT FROM BEING SUSPENDED FROM A CONTRACT, BIDDING OPPORTUNITY, TO A LETTER AND ANOTHER LETTER. AND I BELIEVE ANOTHER LETTER. I JUST READ IT QUICKLY. ENFORCEMENT IS IMPORTANT BECAUSE OTHERWISE PEOPLE CAN WORK AROUND THESE. >>COUN. LEWIS: SURE. WHEN YOU SAY APPRENTICESHIP AND JOURNEYMAN, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT UNION WORKERS? >> NO. STATE REGISTERED APPRENTICES. NON-UNION, AND UNION. THERE ARE MORE NON-UNION THAN UNION. >>COUN. LEWIS: ALL RIGHT. >> THANK YOU. >> JIM FOLLOWED BY ERIC FOLLOWED BY SOPHIA. >> THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. COUNCILORS, I AM THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE ASSOCIATED CONTRACTORS OF NEW MEXICO. WE ARE THE HEAVY HIGHWAY CIVIL CONTRACTORS THAT BUILD YOUR HIGHWAYS. WE'RE OPPOSED TO THE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM AS IS WRITTEN. WE THINK THE TIME IS NOT RIGHT RIGHT NOW WITH THE DISPARITY BETWEEN AVAILABLE APPRENTICES IN THE STATE WHICH IS 2500 AND THE MANDATE TO HAVE 15 TO 25% PER PROJECT WILL NEED TO NUMEROUS WAIVERS AND PAPERWORK ON EVERY PROJECT. I WILL GIVE YOU A GREAT EXAMPLE. ON THE I-25 MONTH GUMRY PROJECT, THAT'S A $275 MILLION PROJECT WITH 400 EMPLOYEES. IF THIS WERE ENACTED UNDER THE SAME ELECTION OF THE ORDINANCE, THAT REQUIRES 60 APPRENTICES ON THE PROJECT. RIGHT NOW THERE'S ONLY ONE. WE LOVE THE APPRENTICES. RIGHT NOW THE NMDOT IS FACING LABOR SHORTAGES AFFECTING THEIR ORGANIZATION. THE DOT AT THE LAST MEETING SAID THEY'RE FACING DOUBLE-DIGIT VACANCIES IN ALL THEIR DEPARTMENTS INCLUDING ADMIN, FRONT LINE, AND SKILLED TRADE. MY AND MY COUNTER PARTS ARE HERE TO TELL YOU THAT. OFFERING INCIDENTIVES INSTEAD OF MANDATES WILL HELP COMPANIES CONTINUE TO PROMOTE THE TRADES. I APPRECIATE YOUR TAKING THE TIME TO LISTEN TO OUR CONCERNS TONIGHT. THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. ONE MORE THING, THE NON-COMPLIANCE PENALTIES WHICH IS ONE-YEAR SUSPENSION LEAVES NO ROOM FOR CORRECTIVE COMPLIANCE ACTIONS FOR ANY OTHER CONTRACTORS. WE HOPE YOU WILL THINK THIS THROUGH A LITTLE BIT MORE. TAKE A LITTLE BIT MORE TIME AND COME BACK WITH ANOTHER WAY WE CAN DO THIS. THANK YOU, COUNCIL PRESIDENT. >> SOFIA,S -- FOLLOWED BY CARLA, FOLLOWED BY KELLY. >> MR. PRESIDENT, MADAM PRESIDENT COUNCILORS. I AM WITH ASSOCIATED BUILDERS AND CONTRACTORS. WE'RE A COMMERCIAL CONSTRUCTION ASSOCIATION. WE HAVE AN APRESENTINGSHIP PROGRAM. WE HAVE THE LARGEST MULTITRADE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAM IN THE STATE. IT'S A WONDERFUL WAY TO BUILD A SKILLED TRADE PEOPLE. IT'S THE THING WE DO BEST. IT'S WHAT I'M MOST PROUD WE DO. IT IS NOT THE ONLY WAY TO BUILD SKILLED TRADES PEOPLE. WITH SUCH A NARROW RECOGNITION OF WHAT CONSTITUTES WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT, BY JUST HAVING REGISTERED APPRENTICESHIP DOESN'T REALLY DO OUR INDUSTRY ANY HELP. COMMUNITY COLLEGES, IN HOUSE TRAINING PROGRAMS, SPECIALIZED TRAINING, IT ALL BUILDS SKILLED TRADES PEOPLE TO PERFORM WORK, AND GET GOOD JOBS AND BRING THEM SELF-UP. I WILL ALWAYS PROMOTE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS, IT WILL NOT BE THE ONLY WAY. AND MY FEAR IS NARROWING IT TO REGISTERED APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS WILL DECREASE THE CONTRACTORS THAT WILL BE WILLING TO DO THIS WORK WHICH DOESN'T HELP THE CONTRACTORS OR THEIR EMPLOYEES. WE ALREADY HAVE PROJECT LABOR AGREEMENTS, WE ALREADY NARROWED THE CONTRACTORS THAT WILL BE WILLING TO BID PROJECTS AND WE'RE GOING TO EXACERBATE THAT WITH THIS MANDATE. AT THAT POINT YOU'LL HAVE TO BE APPRENTICES BECAUSE YOU'LL BE THE ONLY ONE TO DO THIS WORK. APPRECIATE YOUR TIME. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SORRY, I DIDN'T BRING YOU A PRESENT. >> CARRY, FOLLOWED BY IZAA, FOLLOWED BY BRIAN ON ZOOM. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILOR LEWIS, COUNCIL MEMBERS. THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME. MY NAME IS KELLY, I REPRESENT AN ORGANIZATION CALLED AGC. ASSOCIATED GENERAL CONTRACTORS. WE'RE IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY. REPRESENTING UNION AND NON-UNION ALIKE. WE APPRECIATE THE COUNCIL'S EFFORTS TO STRENGTHEN THE LOCAL WORKFORCE. WE UNDERSTAND THE INTENT BEHIND THE PROPOSED APPRENTICESHIP EMPOWERMENT ORDINANCE. HOWEVER WE EXPRESS OUR OPPOSITION TODAY TO THE WAY IT'S CURRENTLY WRITTEN. THAT IS, IN MAIN PART DUE TO THE MANDATE ASPECT OF THIS PROPOSED LEGISLATION. WE BELIEVE AN INCENTIVE-BASED VOLUNTEER PROGRAM IS MORE EFFECTIVE APPROACH TO ACHIEVING WORKFORCE DLUMENT GOALS. IT'S ALSO ESSENTIAL THAT IN-HOUSE TRAINING PROGRAMS, AS YOU JUST HEARD FROM CARLA, THAT PROGRAMS THAT ARE IN-HOUSED SHOULD BE RECOGNIZED ALONG STATE CERTIFIED PROGRAMS. MANY CONTRACTORS INVEST IN TRAINING EFFORTS AND THEY SHOULD NOT BE DISMISSED OR EXCLUDED. FLEXIBILITY IS KEY TO OUR INDUSTRY AND MANY OTHERS WHEN IT COMES TO WORKFORCE SHORTAGE. ANOTHER CONCERN IS PENLALITY OF CONTRACTORS THAT ARE NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR ADMINISTERING THE PROGRAMS. WE SUPPORT WORKFORCE DEVELOPMENT. WE SUPPORT APPRENTICESHIP, INTERNSHIP, AND ADMINISTER CONSTRUCTION CAREER HIRING FAIR THE LAST THREE YEARS WITH SANDIA NATIONAL LABS AND MAXEON AND MANY ASSOCIATION COLLEAGUES. THE EXPECTATION THIS MANDATE IS GOING TO SOLVE THE WORKFORCE SHORTAGE IS ESSENTIAL TO ACKNOWLEDGE THAT WE'RE 11% BELOW THE EMPLOYMENT PEAK IN 2006. THERE'S A PROBLEM THAT REMAINS WHICH IS OUR STATE'S STAGNATION IN POPULATION GROWTH. THANKS FOR THE PERSPECTIVE AND WE LOOK FORWARD TO CONTINUING THIS WORKFORCE CONVERSATION WITH YOU. >> ISIAH FOLLOWED BY BRIAN FOLLOWED BY STEPHANIE. BRIAN FOLLOWED BY STEPHANIE FOLLOWED BY LETICIA. >> COUNCILOR LEWIS, THANK YOU VERY MUCH. THANK YOU, PRESIDENT LEWIS, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I STAND IN FULL SUPPORT OF THE APPRENTICESHIP EMPOWERMENT ORDINANCE. ESPECIALLY IN THE JAWS OF THE MOST CRITICAL SKILLED LABOR SHORTAGE WE'VE SEEN IN OVER 50 YEARS. I LIKE TO ACKNOWLEDGE THE SPONSORS OF THIS ORDINANCE. AND TO ADDRESS SOME OF THE COMMENTS I HEARD JUST A MOMENT AGO, THE FACT THAT THERE IS AN EXEMPT THAT EXISTS AS THE ORDINANCE IS WRITTEN, THERE IS INCENTIVE IN HERE. THE BIGGEST CHALLENGE WE'RE SEEING IN THE INDUSTRY RIGHT NOW IS IS THAT THE STATE PUBLIC WORKS MINIMUM WAGE ACT ACTUALLY REQUIRES THE PAYMENT INTO EXISTING APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS. SO, THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE IS PAYING FOR PARTICIPATION IN REGISTERED APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS BUT THEY'RE NOT RECEIVING THE FULL BENEFIT OF THEM. THE INVESTMENT AND THE BENEFIT AND THE APPRENTICESHIP TRAINING, I'VE LISTENED TO YOUR FASCINATING CITY COUNCIL MEETING. WE'VE GOT A NUMBER OF PROBLEMS IN THIS GREAT CITY. WHEN YOU CALL FOR 20 PIPEFITTERS OR 20 PLUMBERS OR IRREN WORKERS, DO NOT TAKE FOR GRANTED THEY WILL BE THERE. THIS IS A SMALL INVESTMENT THAT THE CITY ALREADY PAYS FOR. WE STAND IN FULL SUPPORT OF THIS AND WOULD URGE THE CITY COUNCIL TO ENACT THIS VERY IMPORTANT ORDINANCE INTO THE FACE OF THE LABOR SHORTAGE WE'RE EXPERIENCING RIGHT NOW. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. >> STEPHANIE FOLLOWED BY LETICIA. >> HELLO, COUNCIL. CAN YOU HEAR ME? >> YES, KEY -- WE CAN HEAR YOU. >> THANK YOU. ALL RIGHT. MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, THANK YOU FOR THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK TODAY. I'M HERE ON BEHALF OF THE NEW MEXICO CHAPTER NICA. WE'RE PROUD TO EXPRESS OUR SUPPORT FOR THE BILL THAT WILL BENEFIT THE REGISTERED APPRENTICES. AND PROVIDING CONTRACTORS WITH THE TOOLS THEY NEED TO SUCCEED. THIS BILL IS NOT JUST FOR THE FUTURE OF OUR WORKFORCE, BUT A STRATEGIC INVESTMENT IN THE STRENGTH AND SUSTAINABILITY OF OUR ENTIRE INDUSTRY. AS AN ASSOCIATION COMMITTED TO THE ADVANCEMENT OF SKILLED TRADES, WE UNDERSTAND THE CRITICAL ROLE THAT APPRENTICESHIPS PLAY IN SHAPING OUR WORKFORCE. THEY'RE MORE THAN JUST A TRAINING MODEL, THEY'RE A FOUNDATION WHICH WE BUILD STRONG AND WELL-EQUIPPED WORKFORCE. CAPABLE OF MEETING THE DEMANDS OF AN EVER EVOLVING ECONOMY. THIS SUPPORTS CONTRACTORS BY PROVIDING THEM THE TOOLS THEY NEED TO BID JOBS MORE EFFECTIVELY. WE UNDERSTAND THE PRESSURE THAT CONTRACTORS FACE. RISING COSTS, TIGHT MARGINS AND FIERCE COMPETITION. BY OFFERING INCENTIVES SUCH AS DISCOUNTS TO REGISTERED APPRENTICES WE LEVEL THE PLAYING FIELD. THIS WILL MAKE IT EASIER TO WIN BIDS, BUT ALSO CREATE A RIPPLE EFFECT THROUGHOUT THE ECONOMY HELPING BUSINESSES GROW, CREATING MORE JOBS, AND FOSTERING A HEALTHIER MORE RESILIENT INDUSTRY. THANK YOU, GUYS. >> STEPHANIE. >> GOOD EVENING, MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL. I'M REPRESENTING THE NEW MEXICO BUILDING CONSTRUCTION AND TRADES COUNSEL. AN ALLIANCE OF CONSTRUCTION CRAFT UNIONS REPRESENTING REPRESENTING THOUSANDS OF UNIS I. WE STRONGLY SUPPORT THE APPRENTICESHIP EMPOWERMENT ORDINANCE. WE KNOW THE PROGRAMS ARE A PROVEN TOOL TO BUILD THE HIEL HIGHLY-KILLED WORKFORCE AND ACCESS TO HIGH-PAYING JOBS AND REDUCE THE GAP AND RECRUIT AND RETAIN MORE WORKERS WITH PRACTICAL EXPERIENCE WITH THE APPRENTICESHIP PROGRAMS. THIS ORDINANCE WILL SUPPORT CRITICAL OPPORTUNITIES FOR -- THE U.S. BUREAU OF LABOR STATISTICS REPORTS THAT 55,000 INDIVIDUALS WORKING IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY IN NEW MEXICO. AND UNFORTUNATELY, ONLY ABOUT 2,000 OF THESE PEOPLE ARE REGISTERED APPRENTICE. THE APPRENTICESHIP EMPOWERMENT ORDINANCE WOULD PROACTIVELY HELP TO INCREASE THE NUMBER OF REGISTERED APPRENTICES IN THE WORKFORCE. I'D LIKE TO THANK THE SPONSORS FOR BRINGING THIS ORDINANCE, AND TO ALL OF THE STAKEHOLDERS THAT WORKED HARD ON THE LEGISLATION. IF PASSED, THIS ORDINANCE WILL CONTRIBUTE TO OUR COLLECTIVE ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT EFFORTS ON VARIOUS LEVELS INCLUDING THE JOB RETENTION, JOB CREATION, AND OUR ABILITY TO LEVERAGE RESOURCES. I ASK THAT YOU VOTE TO PASS THIS ORDINANCE. THANK YOU, ALL. >> THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT, THAT CONCLUDES COMMENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: BACK TO THE SPONSORS. COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: MR. PRESIDENT, THANK YOU. AFTER HEARING ALL THE PUBLIC COMMENT AND SUCH, I'D LIKE TO MAKE A MOTION TO WITHDRAW THIS BILL PLEASE. IT IS WITH A HEAVY HEART THAT I'M DOING THIS. WHEN I INITIALLY SUPPORTED THIS BILL, I DID SO WITH THE CONVICTION THAT IT WOULD SERVE THE COMMUNITY'S BEST INTERESTS. HOWEVER, AFTER DISCUSSIONS INVOLVING, AND FEEDBACK FROM VARIOUS STAKEHOLDERS, INCLUDING CONSTITUENTS, EXPERTS, ADVOCACY GROUPS, I BEGAN TO REALIZE AND UNDERSTAND THE IMPLICATIONS OF THIS WAS INCOMPLETE. YOU CAN TELL BY THE TESTIMONY TONIGHT FROM A LOT OF THE PEOPLE, WHICH I AGREE WITH, THE NUMBERS AREN'T THERE THOUGH. UNFORTUNATELY, WE NEED THESE. WE NEED APPRENTICES AND JOURNEYMAN. BY IMPLEMENTING THIS WE'RE PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE. AS A NEW PERSON TO THIS POSITION, I FIND THIS TO BE AN AMAZING PART OF MY JOB. YOU CAN COME UP WITH AN IDEA, PRESENT IT TO THE PEOPLE ANDIGATE FEEDBACK AND DISCUSSIONS WITH THEM OVER TIME AND LEARN MORE ABOUT IT AND SAY -- AND THEN HAVE THE COURAGE TO SAY, OKAY, LET'S EVOLVE IT AND CHANGE IT AND MAKE IT THE WAY IT SHOULD BE. AND WITH THAT BEING SAID, IT DID COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT I THINK WE'RE PUTTING THE CART BEFORE THE HORSE. AND WE NEED TO EMPHASIZE MORE ON THE BUILD UP OF THOSE NUMBERS AND SUPPORT THE PROGRAMS TO INCREASE THESE NUMBERS INSTEAD OF MANDATING THE NUMBERS THAT WE DON'T, AS MANY OF THESE PEOPLE SAID, WE DON'T HAVE. I THINK WE'RE PUTTING THE EMPHASIS IN THE WRONG DIRECTION. I MAKE A MOTION TO WITHDRAW. >>COUN. LEWIS: MOTION IS FOR WITHDRAW. IT'S SECONDED BY COUNCILOR GROUT. COUNCILORS, ANY DISCUSSION? COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. I WOULD LIKE TO RESPOND TO BOTH COUNCILOR CHAMPINE AND TO THE FOLKS THAT SPOKE AGAINST THIS ORDINANCE TONIGHT. WE HEARD OVER AND OVER AGAIN THAT THE NUMBERS AREN'T THERE. THAT'S TRUE. THAT'S THE POINT OF THIS ORDINANCE. THIS ORDINANCE SAYS WE DON'T HAVE ENOUGH SKILLED LABOR TO MOVE FORWARD IN THE CITY. AND IT SAYS -- THERE'S NO MANDATE IN HERE. YOU DON'T HAVE TO DO ANYTHING. IF YOU WANT TO DO A BIG $2 MILLION FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE, WE HAVE THE RITH TO LEAD BY EXAMPLE AND SAY FOR THOSE PROJECTS WE WANT TO SEE APPRENTICES USED. I FEEL THE POINT OF THIS HAS BEEN LOST. I THINK YOUNG PEOPLE IN OUR COMMUNITY HAVE A RIGHT TO CAREER PATH THAT GETS THEM OUT OF POVERTY. FOLKS THAT HAVE BEEN LAID OFF. PERHAPS SOME OF THE FOLKS THAT ARE TRANSITIONING OUT OF UNHOUSED AND LOOKING FOR A FUTURE, THOSE FOLKS HAVE A RIGHT TO MOVE FORWARD AND TO FIND A JOB THAT GETS THEM ON THAT CAREER PATH. AND THIS IS ONE OF THE WAYS TO DO THAT. WE ALSO HEARD SOMETHING THAT I FOUND VERY, VERY INTERESTING. APPRENTICESHIPS ARE NOT THE ONLY WAY TO MOVE FORWARD AND NO ONE EVER SAID THEY WERE. APPRENTICESHIPS ARE A REALLY GREAT WAY, IN MY OPINION THE BEST WAY, TO GET YOUNG PEOPLE INTO THOSE JOBS. CERTAINLY, IT'S NOWHERE IN HERE DID IT SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THERE NOT BEING THE ABILITY TO HIRE OTHER PEOPLE ON THESE JOBS. LASTLY, I WILL SAY OVER AND OVER AGAIN, THE IDEA THAT THERE'S NO INCENTIVIZATION IN THE BILL IS NOT TRUE. WE WORKED ON THIS FOR SEVERAL MONTHS TO MAKE SURE THAT INCENTIVIZATION WAS CORRECT AND IN THERE. I'M NOT GOING TO OPPOSE WITH THE DRAWL BECAUSE I CAN COUNT. I WANT TO SAY IT'S A SHAME THAT THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE CANNOT MOVE FORWARD WITH SOMETHING THAT IS A LEAD BY EXAMPLE METHOD OF MOVING PEOPLE INTO CAREER PATHS, GIVEN THE VAST AMOUNT OF POVERTY WE TALKED ABOUT TONIGHT AND WE TALK ABOUT EVERY SINGLE TIME WE HAVE A COUNCIL MEETING. IT DOESN'T FEEL LIKE WE WANT TO DO THE THINGS TO GET FOLKS OUT OF THE POVERTY. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >>COUN. LEWIS: I SEE NO INCENTIVES IN THIS BILL, ONLY MANDATES AND PENALTIES AND HIGHER COSTS. I THINK IT'S A LOT LIKE THE PLA WHICH ABSOLUTELY DOES NOT WORK. THE PLA, OUR OWN DEPARTMENT HAS DIFFICULTY MANAGING IT. AND PROVIDING THE SCAPES OUT OF IT, WHEN IT COMES INTO PLAY. AND ALL IT DOES IS REALLY OPEN UP OUR STATE TO OUT OF STATE CONTRACTORS AND OUT OF STATE WORKERS AND CREATES THIS ENVIRONMENT THAT SOMEONE COULD COME AND PILLAGE OUR CITY -- WITH OUT OF STATE OF WORK. IN-F WE WANT TO COME UP WITH INCENTIVES LET'S WORK WITH THE STAKEHOLDERS AND CONTRACTORS AND FIND OUT WHAT INCENTIVES AND HOW COULD THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE COME ALONGSIDE THEM TO REALLY SOLVE THE ISSUE. WHEN YOU HAVE THINGS LIKE THIS THAT HAVE SO MANY UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES THAT ARE MORE DAMAGING THAN GOOD. I AGREE WITH WITH THE DRAWL, ANY OTHER DISCUSSION? QUESTIONS ON THE BILL? MOVED AND SECONDED FOR WITHDRAWAL. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: NO. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: NO. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: NO. >>COUN. ROGERS: NO. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >>COUN. LEWIS: YES. >> PASSES ON A 5-4 VOTE. >>COUN. LEWIS: ALL RIGHT, COUNCILORS. ITEM C. COUNCILOR BASSAN, COUNCILOR GROUT R-99. I GUESS, B. COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. SO, O-53 IS AMENDING CHAPTER TWO, ARTICLE TWO OF THE INTERGOVERNMENTAL RELATIONS FOR NEW LANGUAGE FOR THE STATE LEGISLATION. WE HAVE A FOUR-POINT -- WE'RE PREPARING THE LEGISLATIVE PACKET AND OUR FEDERAL PACKET, IT'S IN AN ORDINANCE. WE HAVE TO FOLLOW WHAT IS EXISTING. SO THIS WAS THE -- PUTTING IT FORWARD WAS ANESTY TO MOVE FORWARD. IT DOES A FEW THINGS. I'LL LET HIM SPEAK AND I'LL WRAP UP AFTER HE SPEAKS. THANK YOU, MR. PRESIDENT. >> MR. PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, THE FOUR POINTS THAT THIS DOES TO THE EXISTING ORDINANCE IS IT REMOVES REQUIREMENT THAT THE CITY ADOPT ANNUAL FEDERAL AND STATE PRIORITIES RESOLUTIONS AND REPLACES IT WITH REQUIRING ADOPTING STATE AND LEGISLATIVE ADDITION AGENDAS. THE CONCEPT OF PRIORITY IS REMOVED AND IT GOES MORE TOWARD A LIST OF REQUESTS. REMOVES REQUIREMENTS THE CITY ADOPT A STAND ALONE CITY RESOLUTION AND LISTS THE REQUESTS ADOPTED UNANIMOUSLY. INSTEAD, JUST KEEPS THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL REQUEST RESOLUTION AND ATTACHMENTS TO REQUEST AS ADOPTED BY A MAJORITY VOTE. ESTABLISHES THE PROCESS BY THE THIRD POINT ESTABLISHES A PROCESS WHY IT'S NOTIFYING CITY COUNCIL SERVICES AS TO THREE REQUESTS BY THE STATE RESOLUTION AND THREE FROM THE FEDERAL RESOLUTION THEY WOULD LIKE TO BE PLACED IN THE MEMO NOTING THE LOBBYISTS TO WORK WITH THE LEGISLATURE WITH INSTRUCTIONS TO FOCUS ON ADVOCATING REQUESTS IN THE MEMO. REQUESTS WOULD, BE INCLUDED IN THE RESOLUTION AS ATTACHMENT. IT WILL BE SEPARATED INTO A LIST OF REQUESTS FROM THE MAYOR AND A LIST FROM CITY COUNCIL AND THE COUNCILORS. WHAT IS MAINTAINED THE IS THE REQUEST WILL BE INCLUDED WITH SEPARATE ATTACHMENT. THE TIMELINE SUBMITTING THE RESOLUTION STAYS FOR NOVEMBER AND DECEMBER FOR STATE AND FEDERAL RESPECTIVELY. AND ALLOWS COUNCILORS TO SEND REQUESTS TO THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND CONGRESS ON THEIR OWN BEHALF WITHOUT REQUEST FOR RESOLUTION. AND THE ABILITY FOR COUNCILORS TO SUBMIT REQUESTS WITHSTAND ALONE RESOLUTION AT ANY TIME DURING THE YEAR. AND ENABLES THE ADOPTION OF AMENDED FEDERAL LEGISLATIVE REQUEST ADDING LIST OF PROJECTS TO THE DIRECT INVESTMENT GRANT INCLUDED IN THE ANNUAL FEDERAL RESOLUTION THAT USUALLY OCCURS IN THE SPRING. THANK YOU. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. COUNCILORS, ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. JUST TO WRAP IT UP. IT'S REALLY, REALLY -- I KNOW IT'S SIMPLIFYING. I WAS REMINDED WE'RE GOING THROUGH THIS EXERCISE AND I WAS REMINDED THAT YEARS AGO WE HAD ACTUALLY, THE MAYOR, WE DIDN'T HAVE IDR WHERE THE MAYOR OR ADMINISTRATION PARTICIPATED. AND THEN AS WE STARTED REALLY EMPHASIZING THE IMPORTANCE OF THIS COMMITTEE, WE AS A BODY ASKED THAT THE ADMINISTRATION PARTICIPATE AND THEY DID SO WE CAN IDENTIFY THINGS THAT WE'RE ALIGNED ON AND MOVE FORWARD ON THOSE PRIORITIES. IT SEEMS AS THOUGH THIS -- WE'RE NON-PARTISAN, BUT SOMETIMES WE DO PARTISAN THINGS. IT MAKES IT DIFFICULT TO FIND CONSENSUS ON SOME THINGS. WHAT THIS BILL IS IT REALLY JUST CREATES AN ACCEPT OR REJECT VOTE FROM THE CITY COUNCIL. SO WE WOULD PUT FORWARD OUR AGENDA ITEMS AND I DON'T REMEMBER WHAT WE CALLED IT IN THE BILL, I'M SORRY, TOM. WE WOULD PUT A LIST OF OUR PRIORITIES AND AGENDA ITEMS TO PUT FORTH. AND EACH COUNCILOR WOULD DO THAT. AND WE VOTE ON IT. THIS REALLY TAKES AWAY FROM COUNCILORS LOOKING AT OTHER COUNCILOR ITEMS AND WHAT THEY HAVE AS A PRIORITY AND WHAT THEY DON'T HAVE AS A PRIORITY. IT ALLOWS US TO PUT OUR ENTIRE BEST FORWARD AND WE SENT OR REJECT IT. BUT WHAT WE DO AFTER WE DO THAT IS WE SEND TO THE DIRECTOR, WE SEND HIM THE LIST OF WHAT WE WOULD LIKE OUR LOBBYIST TO PRIORITIZE. THE LIST CONSISTS OF TWO OR THREE, TOM, I'M NOT SURE. WE WOULD SEND THOSE TO THE DIRECTOR AND HE WOULD SEPPED SEND THOSE TO THE LOBBYIST AND SAY THESE ARE THE PRIORITIES TO THE COUNCIL. AND THE SAME WITH THE ADMINISTRATION. THEY PUT FORWARD THEIR AGENDA, AND WE WOULD ACCEPT OR REJECT THEIR AGENDA. AND THEN THEY THEN, TOO, CAN DO THE EXACT SAME THING. THEY CAN DETERMINE ON THEIR OWN WHAT THEY FEEL THEIR PRIORITIES ARE. ONE THING THAT I WAS THINKING ABOUT TONIGHT IS MAYBE, AND THIS IS FOR MR. PADILLA, WE MAY BE ABLE TO PUT IN AN AMENDMENT THAT JUST SAYS WHERE OUR PRIORITIES ALIGN, MAYBE THOSE BECOME OUR CITYWIDE PRIORITIES. BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, I KNOW HOMELESSNESS AND ADDRESSING HOMELESSNESS AND OTHER ISSUES, CRIME, PUBLIC SAFETY, ARE PRIORITIES. THOSE ARE LIKE GENERAL TOPICS. IF WE -- I DON'T WANT TO -- I DON'T REALLY WANT TO ADD AN AMENDMENT IF IT'S NOT NECESSARY. I THINK THIS HELPS US TO REALLY BE ABLE TO MOVE OUR PRIORITIES FORWARD. YOU KNOW, WE GET KIND OF STUCK ON THE IDEA OF WHAT EACH BODY IS PRESENTING AND MOVING FORWARD. AND THIS IS REALLY OUR ONE TIME A YEAR ABILITY TO BE ABLE TO GO TO THE STATE LEGISLATURE AND EITHER ASK THEM FOR A $50 MILLION THAT WE HAVE IN OUR COMMUNITY, OR GO OVER THERE AND ASK THEM FOR A PARK BENCH. SO, I THINK THIS EXERCISE HELPS US TO BE ABLE TO ACCOMPLISH THAT. WITH THAT, I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. GROUT: OKAY. COUNCILORS -- COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. I APPRECIATE THAT THIS IS VAST IMPROVEMENT FROM WHAT WE'VE BEEN DISCUSSING RECENTLY. I DEFINITELY INTEND TO SUPPORT, BUT I DO WANT TO MAKE A STATEMENT THAT EVERY OTHER COMMUNITY HAS CITYWIDE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES. ALL OF THE COMMUNITIES AROUND US, INCLUDING THE COUNTY, SANTA FE, CRUSES, AND I THINK WE'VE GOTTEN TO A POINT WHERE WE CAN'T EVEN AGREE WITH THE ADMINISTRATION ON SOMETHING THAT'S SIMPLE AS, OBVIOUSLY, AFFORDABLE HOUSING SERVICES FOR PEOPLE EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS AND CRIME REDUCTION ARE CITYWIDE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES. IT'S JUST A SAD DAY BECAUSE I THINK THOSE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES ARE CITYWIDE. THEY REALLY DO HELP WHEN WE'RE GOING TO THE LEGISLATURE AND TALKING ABOUT PIECES OF LEGISLATION. NOW, GRANTED, CAPITAL OUTLAY I'M NOT SURE WHY ANYTHING WHAT I'M GOING TO ASK FOR IS GOING TO COUNCIL BECAUSE I'M GOING TO ASK FOR WHAT I ASK FOR. I THINK EACH INDIVIDUAL COUNCILOR WILL AS WELL. I THINK THERE'S GOT TO BE A WAY FOR THIS BODY AND THE MAYOR'S OFFICE TO DETERMINE TWO OR THREE THINGS LEGISLATIVELY PRIORITY WISE THAT WE AGREE ON. BECAUSE WE ALL KNOW WHAT THIS COMMUNITY NEEDS AND IT'S SAD WE CAN'T COME TOGETHER AND SAY THAT. I THANK THE PEOPLE THAT SERVE ON IGR. IT'S A TOUGH PLACE TO SERVE. I DEFINITELY SUPPORT THIS, BUT AGAIN, WE HAVE TO FIGURE OUT A WAY TO WORK TOGETHER FOR THE PEOPLE OF ALBUQUERQUE. THANK YOU. >>COUN. GROUT: COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, THIS HAS BEEN THE MOST PAINSTAKING PROCESS FOR THE THIRD, FOURTH YEAR IN A ROW, EVER. I MEAN, BANGING HEADS ON A WALL, PAINSTAKING. AND RESPECTFULLY, TOO, I DON'T THINK WE REALLY DISAGREE ON SOME OF THE PRIORITIES. HONESTLY, I THINK WE WOULD BE ABLE TO COME TOGETHER AND SAY, YES, PUBLIC SAFETY, HOUSING, NORTH DOMINGO AQUATIC CENTER, JUST TEASING. BUT PUBLIC SAFETY AND HOUSING IS SOMETHING WE ALL AGREE ON. THE PROBLEM TO ME, WHY IS IT WHEN WE DON'T WANT TO HURT ANYBODY'S FEELING, AND WE MAKE SURE WE INCLUDE EVERY IDEA AND EVERY PRIORITY, AND EVERYTHING GETS ADDED TO THE LIST, NOTHING IS A PRIORITY ANYMORE. IT IS SO FRUSTRATING AND SAD. BECAUSE I IMAGINE, I DON'T WANT TO BE A LEGISLATOR, BUT I IMAGINE THAT THE LEGISLATORS HAVE ENOUGH TO READ OF SUBSTANCE. NOT AN ENDLESS BOOK OF EVERYTHING UNDER THE SUN IS A PRIORITY. I TRULY HAVE JOKED AROUND, AND I'M 10% SERIOUS, ABOUT ADDING WORLD PEACE AS A CITY PRIORITY. BECAUSE AT THIS POINT WE MIGHT AS WELL. I FULLY SUPPORT THIS. I FULLY THINK WE NEED TO GET OUT OF OUR OWN WAY, AND MAYBE IT'S JUST AN ALBUQUERQUE THING, I GET OTHER MUNICIPALITIES OR COUNTIES CAN MANAGE TO MAKE IT WORK. THIS HAS BEEN IMPOSSIBLE FOR YEARS IN A ROW. I THINK, GO GET THEM, LOBBY, LET'S DO THE THINGS WE NEED TO DO FOR OUR CITY, LET'S TRY TO MAKE THINGS BETTER. LET'S TRY TO WORK TOGETHER AS MUCH AS WE POSSIBLY CAN ON IT. I ABSOLUTELY AGREE WITH ALL OF THAT. BUT, I DON'T THINK BY ASKING THE LEGISLATURE FOR WORLD PEACE THAT I'M GOING TO GET EVEN PROBABLY LIKE A 100th OF WORLD PEACE GRANTED TO ME BY ANY OF THEM. THANK YOU, COUNCILOR PEÑA, FOR FINDING A WAY TO SAY THAT THREE IS THE MAGIC NUMBER FOR YOUR PRIORITIES. CAN'T HAVE MORE THAN THAT IF YOU WANTED TO GO FROM COUNCIL SERVICES TO THE STATE OR FED, THREE IS THE MAGIC NUMBER. OTHER THAN THAT MAKE YOUR ENDLESS LIST OF DREAMS AND WISHES. I WILL REFRAIN FROM THAT. GOOD LUCK TO YOU, I HOPE IT'S A SUCCESS. AND ALBUQUERQUE WILL BE BETTER OFF IF WE GET EVERYTHING THAT WE ASK FOR. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU, COUNCILOR. COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM VICE CHAIR. NOTE TO SELF, WATCH THE IGR MEETINGS. STRAIGHT UP, BECAUSE I'M A LITTLE CONFUSED. AS THE NEW GIRL HERE, I THOUGHT THE POINT OF THIS ALL WAS THAT WE WORK TOGETHER FOR OUR COMMUNITY. I'M READING THIS, AND I'M READING THE NEXT ONE, AND I WAS CONFUSED. WHERE IS THE PRIORITIES? THE POINT IS JUST REFERENCE, CAN WE FIX THIS TODAY AND ADD SOME PRIORITIES THAT WE JUST SAID WE COULD AGREE ON? IS THAT A POSSIBILITY? CAN SEE SALVAGE THIS AND GET ON THE SAME PAGE WITH SOME CITYWIDE RECOMMENDATION PRIORITIES? >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. I DON'T KNOW -- THIS IS A LEGITIMATE QUESTION. NOTHING -- IF THIS IS PASSED, IT'S SIMPLIFICATION AND CLARIFICATION OF A LOT OF THINGS, NOTHING IN THAT SAYS WE CAN'T ALSO HAVE A LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES BILL THAT WE ALL AGREE ON. IS THAT TRUE? >> MADAM CHAIR, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN YES. YOU CAN STILL DO IT BECAUSE IT'S NOT REQUIRED. RIGHT HERE IT SAYS YOU'RE REQUIRED TO AT LEAST GET A REQUESTED AGENDA BILL. WHAT'S BEFORE US IS SIMPLIFICATION OF THE PROCESS. IT'S CLARIFYING ROLES AND IT'S SAYING WHAT'S ACTUALLY REQUIRED EVERY SINGLE YEAR. THERE'S NOTHING IN HERE THAT SAYS IF WE DO DECIDE, FOR EXAMPLE, I DON'T KNOW, R-100, WOULD COME BEFORE THIS BODY THAT SAYS OUR CITIYWIDE PRIORITY SUFORDABLE HOUSING, THERE'S NOTHING THAT SAYS WE'RE NOT ABLE TO DO THAT. FIRST OF ALL, THAT'S MY UNDERSTANDING -- CLARIFY. >> COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, YES. THERE'S NOT A PROHIBITION. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I'M ASSUMING THE ADMINISTRATION WOULD ALSO AGREE THAT SOMETHING LIKE AFFORDABLE HOUSING IS SOMETHING THEY AGREE TO. >> MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, I THINK IT'S VERY CLEAR IN THE ADMINISTRATION PRIORITIES THAT ARE IN THE NEXT ITEM ON THE AGENDA THAT AFFORDABLE HOUSING AND PUBLIC SAFETY, CRIME FIGHTING, ARE ABSOLUTE PRIORITIES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: I THINK BACK TO COUNCILOR ROGERS'S POINT, THIS IS REALLY SETTING THE MINIMUM. THERE'S NOTHING SAYING WE CAN'T GO ABOVE AND BEYOND. THANK YOU. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. DOES THE ADMINISTRATION HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO SAY? >> MADAM VICE CHAIR, THANK YOU. I APPRECIATE THAT COUNCILOR PEÑA HAS DONE THE WORK IN THIS VERSION. I THINK IT'S A SIGNIFICANT IMPROVEMENT TO WHAT WE'RE ATTEMPTING TO DO IN ENSURING THERE'S CLARITY. I APPRECIATE THAT THERE IS DEFINITELY AN OPTION FOR CITYWIDE PRIORITIES IF WE SO CHOOSE. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. OKAY. LET'S GO AHEAD AND VOTE. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. PEÑA: IF I CAN JUST CLOSE. >>COUN. GROUT: OF COURSE, I'M SORRY. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. YEAH, YOU KNOW, YES COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, COUNCILOR ROGERS, YES ABSOLUTELY. I BELIEVE IN A WAY THIS ORDINANCE ACTUALLY HELPS TO ACCOMPLISH PRIORITIES BECAUSE AS IT STATES EACH ONE OF US COUNCILORS WOULD PUT OUR THREE FORWARD FOR LOBBYIST TO WORK ON. THEN, I THINK, REALLY, THAT WOULD ACTUALLY CREATE WHAT WOULD BE OUR PRIORITIES AS A COUNCIL, RIGHT? AND THE MAYOR PUT THEIR FORWARDS AND WHATEVER THEY DECIDE TO WORK ON. IT DOESN'T PREVENT ANY OF US, ANY BODY, FROM SAYING THESE ARE PRIORITIES. WHATEVER THE TOP THREE FROM EACH ONE OF US ARE WOULD BE OUR PRIORITIES BECAUSE THAT'S WHAT OUR LOBBYIST WOULD BE FOCUSED ON AT THIS LEGISLATIVE SESSION. AND THE MAYOR HAS THE ABILITY AND THE FLEXIBILITY TO BE ABLE TO DO THE SAME, RIGHT? BECAUSE EVEN THOUGH I KNOW SOMETIMES THEY SAY THE PATH TO HELL IS LED WITH GOOD INTENTIONS BECAUSE SOMETIMES AFFORDABLE HOUSING, OR HOW EWE LOOK AT THE PREVIOUS BILL, WE ALL AND COUNCILOR CHAMPINE ALLUDED TO THAT, IS YOU'RE TRYING TO WORK TOGETHER TO ACCOMPLISH SOMETHING BECAUSE WE KNOW WE NEED APPRENTICES. SOMETIMES THE PATHS THERE TAKE TWO DIFFERENT PATHS TO GET THERE. IT'S NOT ALWAYS AS SIMPLE. IF WE GENERICALLY SAY WE SUPPORT PUBLIC SAFETY AND HOUSING FOR PEOPLE, OR HELPING THE HOMELESS IN OUR COMMUNITY, I THINK WE ALL DEFINITELY AGREE THOSE ARE OUR PRIORITIES. SO, THANK YOU FOR ALLOWING ME THAT CLOSE, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >> PASSES ON AN 8-0 VOTE. >>COUN. GROUT: VERY GOOD. THANK YOU. WE'RE GOING TO MOVE ON TO ITEM C. R-99. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, R-99 IS ESTABLISHING MAY ORAL AND CITY COUNCIL FOR THE FIRST SESSION OF THE 57th STATE LEGISLATURE. I MOVE A DO PASS. >>COUN. GROUT: I'LL SECOND THAT. I. >>COUN. BASSAN: I LIKE TO MOVE THE FLOOR SUBSTITUTE IN YOUR iPADS. BECAUSE OF THE BILL PROCEEDING THIS WE HAVE TO HAVE A FLOOR SUBSTITUTE TO CHANGE LANGUAGE INSIDE THIS BECAUSE NOW WE ELIMINATED THE WORD PRIORITY. I THINK THAT SUMS IT UP PRETTY CLEAR. WE HAVE TO STREAMLINE IT TO WHERE IT MATCHES. SO, DID YOU SECOND THAT? >>COUN. GROUT: I WILL SECOND THAT. >>COUN. BASSAN: ONE REAL QUICK THING, I BET YOU I CAN GET ALL OF YOU TO VOTE IN FAVOR OF WORLD PEACE AS A CITYWIDE PRIORITY BECAUSE NONE OF YOU WOULD VOTE AGAINST IT. JUST SAYING. WITH THAT, QUESTIONS, COMMENTS? >>COUN. GROUT: MR. MENACUCCI. ON PAGE TWO, LINE FIVE, I DID FORGET TO REMOVE ONE PRIORITY. THAT SHOULD PROBABLY BE AMENDED TO SAY, DELETE THE WORD PRIORITIES AND INCERT THE WORD REQUEST. AN ERROR ON MY PART. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, CAN WE INCORPORATE INTO THE FLOOR SUBSTITUTE? >>COUN. GROUT: OKAY. THANK YOU. ANY QUESTIONS? PUBLIC COMMENT. WE MIGHT HAVE ONE. >> THANK YOU. TREVOR FOLLOWED BY JANICE, FOLLOWED BY JOSEPH. >> GOOD EVENING, ONCE AGAIN, COUNCIL. I RECOGNIZE THAT THIS BUDGET PRIORITIES OR BUDGET REQUEST IS BOTH THE INTEREST OF THE MAYOR AND THIS COUNCIL. SO, I'M NOT SPEAKING EXCLUSIVELY TO YOUR INTENTIONS. I WANT TO BEGIN BY THANKING COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN FOR INCLUDING CLIMATE CHANGE LANGUAGE IN THE BUDGET PRIORITIES. I WOULD LOVE TO SEE MUCH MORE OF THIS, IT'S SOMETHING THAT -- I WANT TO THANK THE COUNCIL IN GENERAL FOR INCLUDING SEVERAL PUBLIC SERVICES INCLUDING LIBRARIES AQUATIC CENTERS AND PLACES THAT PEOPLE CAN GO. AND BUILD COMMUNITIES FOR PARTS OF ALBUQUERQUE, AND IMPROVE THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE COMMON PERSON. I WANT TO CAUTION AGAINST THE IDEA OF USING POLICING AS A DEFAULT SOLUTION TO PROBLEMS. WE DO NOT HAVE TO AGREE ENTIRELY ON THE HARMS OF POLICING. NONETHELESS, I'M SURE EVERYONE HERE WORRIES ABOUT -- I'M NOT GOING TO USE ANY SPECIFIC MODEL, I WANT YOU TO CONSIDER HOW AUTOPILOT GOVERNANCE PAVES THAT ROAD. THIS IDEA OF JUST INFLATE THE BUDGET, MORE POLICING, MORE AND MORE MONEY SPENT, MORE AND MORE TAXPAYER DOLLARS SENT TO THE POLICE. I WANT US TO ENGAGE IN THE DIFFICULT AND COMPLEX EFFORTS TO ALLEVIATE AND ELIMINATE POVERTY. WHICH I BELIEVE IS A VERY POSSIBLE GOAL. AS THE ADDAGE GO, WHEN ALL YOU USE IS A HAMMER, EVERYTHING LOOKS LIKE A NAIL. THE REAL INTEREST, INTENTIONS AND REQUESTS SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON ALLEVIATING POVERTY AND CLIMATE SOLUTIONS. IMPROVING THE QUALITY OF LIFE FOR THE PUBLIC IS A GOOD ELECTION STRATEGY. THANK YOU, ALL. >> JANICE FOLLOWED BY JOSEPH. >> GOOD EVENING. FIRST OF ALL, I JUST WANTED TO SHOUT OUT COUNCILORS GROUT AND BASSAN. SO THOSE OF US WHO ARE INTERESTED HAVE A CHANCE TO HAVE TRANSPARENCY. I WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT A FEW OF THE COUNCIL-LED INITIATIVES THAT I THOUGHT WERE ESPECIALLY EXCITING. COUNCILOR PEÑA, I REALLY LIKE THE REBUILDING THE BEHAVIORAL HEALTH SYSTEM. LOOKING AT IMMEDIATE OPTIONS. KEYWORD IMMEDIATE AS AN ALTERNATIVE TO JAIL. I THINK THAT IS FANTASTIC. COUNCILOR ROGERS, THE RENT STABILIZATION PROGRAM, I KNOW THAT'S A TOPIC DURING THE REDEVELOPMENT POT LUCK. I'M HAPPY TO SEE THAT COMING FORWARD. COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN, THE CABQ MIDDLE RIO GRANDE HOUSING COLLABORATIVE FUNDING. I THINK IT'S EXCELLENT. I THINK WE'VE SEEN THE RESULTS THERE. I'M EXCITED TO SEE WHERE THAT COLLABORATIVE EFFORT MAY LEAD. AND MY OWN DISTRICT, DISTRICT TWO, COUNCILOR BACA, THE 12th AND SAWMILL STRIPING. THAT'S ONE I HAD TAKEN TO OUR COMMUNITY TOWN HALL. I KNOW OTHER PEOPLE WERE INTERESTED IN THE VERY DANGEROUS INTERSECTION. THAT ONE LOOKS FANTASTIC TO ME. LET'S SEE, COUNCILOR PEÑA, THE SOUTHWEST PUBLIC SAFETY CENTER, I WORK IN PUBLIC HEALTH. I'M EXCITED ABOUT SAFETY. I DON'T HAPPEN EXACTLY WHAT A SAFETY CENTER IS. I CAN'T WAIT TO LEARN MORE ABOUT IT. I SURE HOPE IT'S 24 HOURS BECAUSE WE REALLY NEED SOME DROP-IN CENTERS THAT PEOPLE CAN GO AROUND THE CLOCK. COUNCILOR ROGERS, DISTRICT SIX PARTICIPATING BUDGETING. I THINK THAT'S THE FIRST TIME THAT'S BEEN DONE HERE. REALLY EXCITED TO SEE THAT PROCESS UNFOLDING. I SURE HOPE WE CAN SEE THAT SPREAD AND GROW TO OTHER DISTRICTS. IT LOOKS LIKE OUT OF TIME. THANK YOU VERY MUCH. HAVE A GOOD TIME. >> JOSEPH. >> GOOD EVENING, COUNCILORS. WE MADE IT, RIGHT? FIRST AND FOREMOST, I WORK FOR HOMELESS USAE. I WANTED TO START BY THANKING MADAM VICE CHAIR, AND MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, HAVING WORKED FOR BOTH CITY OPERATIONS AND CITY COUNCIL, I KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT WHAT GOES INTO MAKING THIS ALL WORK. I WANTED TO THANK YOU FOR DOING WHAT YOU DO FOR THE CITY OF ALBUQUERQUE. I WANTED TO ALSO SAY THAT AS IT RELATES TO SPECIFICALLY TO THE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES AND GOING INTO THE 60-DAY SESSION, AS WE THINK ABOUT PUBLIC AND PRIVATE PARTNERSHIPS, PLEASE KEEP IN MIND LOCAL SMALL BUSINESS. FOR THOSE OF YOU THAT DON'T KNOW ABOUT HALLMANS, IT'S A HARDWARE AND SOFTWARE RESELLER OF HP AND APPLE. THEY'VE BEEN IN OPERATION FOR OVER 65 YEARS. THEY DO A NUMBER OF EFFORTS WITHIN THE COMMUNITY. LAST YEAR, THEY SPENT OVER $200,000 IN EFFORTS IN ALBUQUERQUE. THE OWNER LIVES AND WORKS IN ALBUQUERQUE. IT'S NOT AN ORGANIZATION THAT IS JUST IN COLORADO OR ARIZONA, IT'S ACTUALLY LIVING AND WORKING IN THE COMMUNITY. AGAIN, I THINK SMALL BUSINESSES IS SOMETHING WE ALL AGREE ON. WE HAVE A NUMBER OF PROCUREMENT VEHICLES, SO ANYTHING THAT THE CITY IS INTERESTED IN PROCURING, YOU CAN WORK WITH HALLMANS. IT'S A NON-PAID RESOURCE TO ANY CITY DEPARTMENT. WITH THE BUDGET PRIORITIES THERE'S A NUMBER OF INITIATIVES FOR APD TECHNOLOGY AND DATA ANALYTICS AND INTERPRETING THAT DATA. THE UPLIFT THAT GOES INTO IT, ESPECIALLY IN THE SHADOW OF THE BUILDER PATH, YOU MIGHT WANT TO THINK ABOUT HARDWARE. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. THANK YOU, ALL. OKAY. ANY OTHER DISCUSSION BEFORE WE GO TO A VOTE? LET'S VOTE ON THE FLOOR SUBS. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >> PASSES ON AN 8-0 VOTE. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. I WOULD LIKE TO MOVE THE RULES BE SUSPENDED FOR ALLOWING R-99 TO BE ADOPTED AT THE SAME EVENING IT'S SUBSTITUTED. >>COUN. GROUT: I WILL SECOND THAT. AND WE NEED A VOTE OF TWO-THIRDS OF COUNCILORS PRESENT TO GET THIS VOTE ON TONIGHT. [ -- >>COUN. GROUT: WE HAVE A FLOOR AMENDMENT. DO WE HAVE TO DO THAT FIRST BEFORE WE TAKE THIS VOTE? >> YOU CAN TAKE THE VOTE TO SUSPEND THE RULES AND YOU CAN AMEND THE BILL AFTERWARDS. >>COUN. GROUT: ALL RIGHT. LET'S GO AHEAD. MADAM CLERK, ROLL CALL. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >> PASSES ON AN 8-0 VOTE. >>COUN. GROUT: VERY GOOD. WE CAN VOTE ON IT IN JUST A MINUTE. COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM VICE CHAIR. I'D LIKE TO MOVE FLOOR AMENDMENT TO THE FLOOR SUB R-24-99. THIS INCLUDES SOME CAPITAL OUTLAY PRIORITIES SPECIFICALLY FOR DISTRICT SIX THAT I RECEIVED LATER FOR MESA DEL SOL. ONE IS FOR PUBLIC SAFETY INFRASTRUCTURE, SINCE WE DO NOT HAVE A POLICE SUBITATION IN MESA DEL SOL, IT WILL HELP TO INCLUDE CAMERA, SHOT SPOTTER AND OTHER TECHNOLOGY AND EQUIPMENT WHILE WE WAIT FOR THE POLICE SUBSTATION TO BE CONSTRUCTED. THE OTHER IS FOR PEDESTRIAN BRIDGE NEEDED FOR PEDESTRIAN SAFETY FOR ACCESS AND RIGHT-OF-WAY TO CONSTRUCTIVE BRIDGE OVER BOBBY FOSTER ROAD. AND THE LAST IS A WATER STUDY, SPECIFICALLY TO FUND WATER SYSTEMS REQUIRED FOR POTABLE AND RECLAIMED WATER FOR THE ENTIRE MESA DEL SOL. THIS IS REALLY EXCITING TO BUILD SOME INFRASTRUCTURE ON TOP OF A MESA. I URGE YOUR SUPPORT. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: SECOND. >>COUN. GROUT: COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN SECONDED. ANY QUESTIONS? [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >> PASSES ON AN 8-0 VOTE. >>COUN. GROUT: VERY GOOD. NOW, LET'S GO TO VOTE ON THE FLOOR SUB AS A-MINDED. -- AMENDED. THE BILL AS SUBSTITUTED AND AMENDED. THANK YOU COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. I'M NOT GOING TO VOTE FOR THIS. I'M JUST GOING TO POINT OUT THAT DESPITE ALL OF OUR EFFORTS TO MAKE SURE THAT THERE'S SOMETHING WE ALL AGREE ON, WHAT WE'RE REALLY VOTING IN IS A LIST OF CITYWIDE PRIORITY THAT ARE THE MAYORS THAT ISN'T CHECKED BY THE COUNCIL. I DON'T THINK THIS IS WHAT WE MEANT TO DO. I'M FINE. IF YOU WANT CITYWIDE PRIORITIES TO REFLECT WHAT THIS COUNCIL THINKS IS CITYWIDE PRIORITIES, SIMPLY DOPTING THE ONLY ONES BY THE MAYOR DOESN'T FURTHER THAT EFFORT. THANK YOU. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, I GUESS I WOULD ASK STAFF AND COUNCILOR PEÑA, BEING THAT WE CHANGED EVERYTHING AND NOW OMITTED THE TERM PRIORITIES, IT IS A LIST OF THINGS THAT WE THINK IS FABULOUS, AND IF WE WANT TO CIRCLE BACK WITH OUR STAFF AND OUR COUNCIL SERVICES DIRECTOR, IF ON MY LIST OF ALL THE THINGS I SEND TO THE COUNCIL SERVICES DIRECTOR THREE OF THEM, AND THAT IS WHAT OUR LOBBYIST WILL BE DIRECTED TO WORK FOR ME AS A COUNCILOR AND ALL OTHER EIGHT COUNCILORS AND FOR THE MAYOR AS WELL IS WHAT MY UNDERSTANDING IS ON THIS. I DON'T RECALL THAT WE HAVE CHANGED IT TO WHERE THIS IS VOTING FOR A LIST OF THINGS THAT THE MAYOR WANTS WITHOUT US VETTING IT. >>COUN. PEÑA: MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. >>COUN. GROUT: COUNCILOR PEÑA. >>COUN. PEÑA: THANK YOU, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. THIS BILL IS ACTUALLY A BILL THAT WAS JUST ALREADY IN THE HOPPER. NEXT YEAR, THE WAY THE ORDINANCE READS IS THAT IT WOULD BE TWO DIFFERENT -- IT WOULD COME DOWN, I THINK MR. MENACUCI,IT WOULD COME DOWN AS EC. WE WOULD HAVE TWO BILLS ACCORD TO THE NEW WAY THE ORDINANCE WOULD WORK. IT WOULD HAVE THE COUNCIL REQUEST, AND ACCEPT OR REJECT BY THIS BODY, AND THERE WOULD BE THE MAYOR REQUEST WHICH WOULD BE AN ACCEPT REJECT. BECAUSE THIS WAS ALREADY PUT FORWARD, WE'RE NOT GOING THROUGH THAT EXERCISE. SO -- I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WOULD REQUIRE THAT. I GUESS MAYBE MY QUESTION, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, WOULD BE TO MR. MENACUCCI, ARE WE REQUIRED TO DO THAT? >> MR. MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, THE ORDINANCE THAT WAS JUST PASSED WILL STILL JUST WOULD BE WHAT YOUR SEEING NOW, ONE BILL WITH TWO ATTACHMENT. ONE RESOLUTION FOR THE MAYOR AND CITY COUNCIL AND IT WOULD HAVE TWO ATTACHMENTS, ONE FOR THE MAYOR, ONE FOR THE CITY COUNCIL. AND THAT'S VERY SIMILAR TO WHAT'S IN FRONT OF YOU NOW. >>COUN. GROUT: COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. PEÑA: MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, IF I CAN FOLLOW MY THOUGHT. IT WOULD BE AN ACCEPT OR REJECT, IT WOULD NOT BE A DO PASS? >> MADAM CHAIR, IT WOULD BE PASS AS A MATTER OF ACCEPT OR REJECT. IT WOULD BE ACCEPT OR REJECT BY VOTE OF MAJORITY. IT WAS PASSED BY MAJORITY IT'S ACCEPTED, IF IT'S NOT, ITS REJECTED. >>COUN. PEÑA: BUT THIS IS BILL ISN'T DOING THAT? >> YES, IT IS. IT'S A MAJORITY-VOTE BILL. IF THE MAJORITY ACCEPTS IT, IT'S PASSED. IT'S NOT ACCEPT OR REJECT LIKE AN EC. IT'S MORE PASS OR NOT PASS AS A RESOLUTION. >>COUN. PEÑA: I'M CONFUSED NOW. BECAUSE THE CONVERSATIONS I HAD BEEN HAVING WERE ACCEPT OR REJECT. >> MADAM CHAIR, I THINK ACCEPT REJECT IS AN EC. I MADE THE ERROR ON MY PART. IT'S NOT UNANIMOUS ANYMORE. IT'S JUST BY MAJORITY VOTE. >>COUN. PEÑA: RIGHT. IT'S BY MAJORITY VOTE. >> IT WOULD BE FOR RESOLUTION. >>COUN. PEÑA: MY INTENT IS THAT IT WOULD NOT -- THE COUNCIL WOULD PASS THEIR AGENDA AND THE MAYOR WOULD PUT FORTH HIS. MAYBE I JUST READ THAT WRONG? >> YEAH. >>COUN. PEÑA: COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN IS THEN CORRECT, WE'RE VOTING YES TO ALL THE MAYOR'S PRIORITIES. AND THAT'S NOT WHAT OUR INTENTION IS TO DO. IT'S TO GIVE THE ADMINISTRATION THE FLEXIBILITY TO PUT FORTH WHAT HE BELIEVES ARE HIS PRIORITIES. BUT IT DOES NOT COMMIT COUNCILORS TO SAY YES TO WHAT HIS PRIORITIES ARE. I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT LEAVES US. IT HOLDS TRUE FOR THE SAME FOR EACH OF THE CITY COUNCILORS. THIS IS AN ADMINISTRATION-COUNCILOR THING. EVEN IF IT'S INDIVIDUAL COUNCILORS WHO MAYBE ARE PUTTING SOMETHING FORWARD THAT I DON'T NECESSARILY SUPPORT, I DON'T WANT TO BE ON RECORD AS SUPPORTING THAT ITEM. I THINK THIS IS WHERE THE WHOLE -- I MAY HAVE MISUNDERSTOOD SOME THINGS, BUT IT LOOKS LIKE MR. PADILLA WILL ADD SOMETHING. >> MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR PEÑA, WE CAN DRAFT AN AMENDMENT TO THE LEGISLATION WHERE WE WOULD ELIMINATE PARAGRAPH D ON PAGE TWO. AND WE CAN SAY THE MAYOR CAN SUBMIT EXECUTIVE COMMUNICATION WHERE IT'S THE MAYOR'S PRIORITIES AND COUNCIL WOULD SUPPORT AN OTHER COMMUNICATION FOR COUNCIL PRIORITIES AND YOU CAN ACCEPT OR REJECT THOSE. WE CAN MAKE CHANGES TO THE LEGISLATION THAT WILL GO INTO EFFECT NEXT YEAR. NOW THAT WE UNDERSTAND WHAT YOU'RE SAYING WE CAN GET THAT DRAFTED. >>COUN. PEÑA: MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, MR. PADILLA, FOR THE ORDINANCE YOU JUST PASSED? >> CORRECT. WE WOULD HAVE TO CHANGE THE ORDINANCE. WE DON'T WANT TO FLY DRAFT SOMETHING. WE CAN MOTION TO RECONSIDER. MY RECOMMENDATION IS ALLOW US TO GET THE LANGUAGE CORRECT, INTRODUCE AN ORDINANCE CHANGE TO CHANGE THE ORDINANCE AND THAT WOULD BE THE MAYOR WOULD SUBMIT EXECUTIVE COMMUNICATION WITH THE LIST OF PRIORITIES AND THE COUNCIL WOULD INTRODUCE IN OTHER COMMUNICATION WITH THE LIST OF PRIORITIES AND EACH ONE OF THOSE WOULD BE ACCEPT OR REJECT. >>COUN. PEÑA: I THINK THAT'S -- MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, I APOLOGIZE. I THINK THAT'S A GOOD IDEA. WHERE DOES THAT LEAVE US WITH THIS BILL TONIGHT? BECAUSE I'M IN FEAR NOW THAT IT MAY NOT PASS BECAUSE THERE'S NOT ANY -- EVEN WITH DIFFERENT COUNCILORS AND THEIR AGENDAS I DON'T NECESSARILY WANT TO BE ON RECORD FOR SUPPORTING CERTAIN THINGS THAT I DON'T SUPPORT. >> MADAM CHAIR, COUNCILOR PEÑA, MY RECOMMENDATION WOULD BE TO DEFER THIS PIECE OF LEGISLATION. LET US SEE WHAT WE CAN DO TO MAKE THE CHANGES THAT ARE NECESSARY SO WE CAN REFLECT WHAT YOUR WISHES ARE AND THE COUNCIL WISHES ARE. >>COUN. GROUT: COUNCILOR FIEBELKORN. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: THANK YOU, MADAM VICE PRESIDENT. I UNDERSTAND THIS MIGHT BE DEFERRED. I'M NOT SAYING IT SHOULD BE OR SHOULD NOT BE. I WILL SAY FOR THE LAST TWO YEARS I'VE BEEN VOTING FOR LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES THAT I DID NOT SUPPORT BECAUSE THEY WERE THINGS THAT THE MAJORITY OF THE CITY COUNCIL SUPPORTED AND I THINK AT SOME POINT WE HAVE TO ACKNOWLEDGE WE HAVE DIFFERENCE OF OPINION UP HERE AND THAT'S OKAY. AND SO, YOU KNOW, I REALLY JUST WANT US TO GET TO THE POINT WHERE I'M GOING TO GO AFTER WHATEVER MONEY I'M GOING TO ASK FOR AND I'M GOING TO SUPPORT THE LEGISLATION I'M GOING TO SUPPORT. I EXPECT EVERY OTHER COUNCILOR TO DO THAT. I THINK THE VALUE OF A CITYWIDE LEGISLATIVE PRIORITIES BILL IS WE HAVE A COUPLE OF THINGS THAT WE ALL, INCLUDING THE MAYOR AND THE ADMINISTRATION, AGREE ON ARE VALUABLE FOR EVERY SINGLE PERSON THAT LIVES IN OUR CITY. SO, I HAVE NO PROBLEM PASSING THIS TONIGHT BECAUSE I AM NOT ASSOCIATING WITH THE THINGS THE OTHER COUNCILORS ARE PUTTING IN THEIR INDIVIDUAL PRIORITIES. I'M JUST POINTING OUT THAT'S WHAT WE HAVE BEFORE US SO WE'RE VERY CLEAR. AND MADAM CHAIR, IF I CAN ALSO, WHATEVER THE RESULT OF ALL THIS IS, IF YOU GO TO THE LEDGEISTR AND LOOK AT THE BILL THAT'S THERE, THERE ARE TWO ATTACHMENTS AND NO ATTACHMENT ONE. WHATEVER HAPPENS, I THINK WE SHOULD FIX THAT AS WELL. >>COUN. GROUT: COUNCILOR ROGERS. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU, MADAM VICE CHAIR. AGAIN, I'M CONFUSED. I ASKED EARLIER IF WE COULD -- GET TO THE POINT WHERE WE GOT TO CITYWIDE PRIORITIES. IF WE ALREADY PASSED THIS, WHAT'S THE POINT OF PROCEDURAL -- IF WE ALREADY PASSED THIS, BECAUSE WE HAVE, HOW DO WE UNDO THIS AND REDO THIS SO THAT THIS MAKES SENSE? BECAUSE IF I'M CONFUSED, THE PUBLIC WATCHING IS CONFUSED. I'M AT A LOSS FOR WHY WE THIS IS SO HARD. >> MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, ANOTHER OPTION IS MOTION TO RECONSIDER AND DEFER. AND WE CAN DRAFT LANGUAGE THAT MORE REFLECTS WHAT THE INTENT OF THE COUNCIL IS. THAT IS ANOTHER PATH. THAT'S SOMETHING WE CAN ALSO DO. IF THAT IS THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL. >>COUN. ROGERS: THANK YOU. I'M SORRY, MADAM VICE CHAIR. THAT MEANS WE CAN ALSO DEFER AND AMEND IT TO SAY WE HAVE CITYWIDE AGREEMENTS? >> MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR ROGERS, IF WE'RE GOING TO AMEND THE ORDINANCE, I THINK THERE'S TWO DIFFERENT WAYS TO DO IT. WE CAN INTRODUCE ANOTHER ORDINANCE TO AMEND IT TO REFLECT WHAT COUNCILOR PEÑA SAID. OR DO A MOTION TO RECONSIDER AND DEFER IT. BASICALLY, UNDO PASSING OF IT AND DEFER IT AND WE HEAR IT AT THE NEXT COUNCIL MEETING. THAT DEALS WITH THE ORDINANCE. THE RESOLUTION ITSELF, IF WE WANT TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE RESOLUTION OR DO IT WITH ANOTHER PROCESS, RECOMMEND DEFERRING THE RESOLUTION, FIGURING OUT WITH THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL IS, AND EITHER SEND DOWN AN OC FOR COUNCILORS, AND EC FOR THE MAYOR'S THINGS AFTER WE GET THE ORDINANCE FIXED. IF IT'S THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL TO PROCEED WITH THE ORDINANCE, YOU CAN JUST PASS THE RESOLUTION AT THE FOLLOWING MEETING. RIGHT NOW WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR THE WILL OF THE COUNCIL TO DETERMINE WHAT TO DO. LIKE HOW TO PROCEED. >>COUN. ROGERS: SO, THAT MEANS WE DON'T GET TO DO CITYWIDE? >>COUN. GROUT: ALL RIGHT. ON THE FLOOR WE HAVE A BILL, A FLOOR SUB, THAT HAS BEEN AMENDED. WE HAVEN'T PASSED IT. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, I MAKE A MOTION TO DEFER R-99 AS SUBSTITUTED AND AMENDED, FOR TWO WEEKS. >>COUN. GROUT: I SECOND THAT. ALL RIGHT. WE'RE GOING TO DEFER IT FOR TWO WEEKS. >>COUN. ROGERS: I'M SORRY. I THOUGHT WE VOTED. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >> PASSES ON AN 8-0 VOTE. >>COUN. GROUT: OKAY. NOW, COUNCILOR BASSAN. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM VICE-PRESIDENT, IT WILL BE MY PLEASURE TO MAKE A MOTION TO RECONSIDER O-53. >>COUN. GROUT: MOTION TO RECONSIDER O-24-53 AND A SECOND BY COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. ANY DISCUSSION? [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >> PASSES ON AN 8-0 VOTE. >>COUN. GROUT: OKAY. NOW WE HAVE TO DEFER. >>COUN. BASSAN: MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, I MAKE A MOTION TO DEFER O-53 FOR TWO WEEKS. >>COUN. GROUT: OKAY. WE HAVE A MOTION FROM COUNCILOR BASSAN. AND A SECOND BY COUNCILOR ROGERS TO DEFER O-24-53 FOR TWO WEEKS. MADAM CLERK. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: YES. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: YES. >> PASSES ON AN 8-0 VOTE. >>COUN. GROUT: VERY GOOD. WE'LL GET IT ALL FIXED UP. ADD WORLD PEACE IN THERE. WE'LL BE GOOD. LET'S MOVE ON TO APPROVALS. EC-252 IS MAYOR'S APPOINTMENT OF MS. MONTANO TO THE JOINT AIR QUALITY BOARD. I MOVE CONFIRMATION. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: SECOND. >>COUN. GROUT: SECOND FROM COUNCILOR PEÑA. IS THERE ANYONE SIGNED UP TO SPEAK? NOPE. OKAY. COUNCILORS, ANY DISCUSSION? I JUST HAVE A COUPLE QUESTIONS TO THE ADMINISTRATION. WE RECEIVED FOUR RESUMES. CAN YOU TELL US HOW -- WHAT -- THESE ARE ALL REALLY GREAT APPLICANTS. CAN YOU TELL US HOW THIS PERSON WAS CHOSEN? >> COUNCILOR GROUT, MEMBERS OF THE COUNCIL, THE INDIVIDUAL THAT WE HAVE BEFORE YOU TONIGHT WAS CHOSEN BASED UPON THEIR SERVICE IN THE COMMUNITY AND THEIR CONNECTION TO BOTH LIVING IN DISTRICT TWO AND HAVING INTIMATE KNOWLEDGE AND INFORMATION RELATED TO DISTRICT THREE. THE AIR QUALITY BOARD TODAY DOES NOT HAVE A REQUIREMENT FOR SPECIFIC REPRESENTATION ON THE BOARD, AS WE ALL KNOW. THE LANGUAGE IS FOCUSED ON ENSURING WE HAVE INDIVIDUALS THAT REPRESENTATIVE OF THE COMMUNITY. AND THIS INDIVIDUAL WE HAVE BEFORE YOU WE FELT WAS A GOOD REPRESENTATIVE FOR THE COMMUNITY THAT WE HAVE CONSIDERING THE ISSUES RELATED TO THE AIR QUALITY BOARD. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. COUNCILORS, ANY QUESTIONS? COUNCILOR CHAMPINE. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: JUST A QUICK CLARIFICATION. IF THERE REQUIREMENTS DON'T REQUIRE WHAT DISTRICT IS IN CONSIDERATION, WHY IS IT THEIR INFORMATION OR KNOWLEDGE FOR DISTRICT TWO OR THREE ARE SO IMPORTANT? >> MADAM VICE PRESIDENT, COUNCILOR CHAMPINE, WHEN I READ THE LANGUAGE SPECIFICALLY RELATE TO THE AIR QUALITY BOARD IT FOCUSES ON SELECTED FOR THEIR CONCERNS ABOUT AND COMMITMENT TO THE LOCAL AND AIR QUALITY AND REPRESENTING THE INDIVIDUALS IN THE COMMUNITY. SO, I AM JUST PHYSICALLY SPEAK TO THE BROADNESS OF THIS INDIVIDUAL'S REPRESENTATION BASED UPON PREVIOUS WORKS. I SHOULD MENTION, ALSO, PREVIOUS WORK WITH NONPROFITS, WORKING WITH CHILDREN. AGAIN POPULATIONS THAT ARE REPRESENTED WITHIN OUR COMMUNITIES. >>COUN. GROUT: THANK YOU. ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? OKAY. [ ROLL CALL ]. >>COUN. BACA: YES. >>COUN. BASSAN: YES. >>COUN. CHAMPINE: NO. >>COUN. FIEBELKORN: YES. >>COUN. GROUT: YES. >>COUN. PEÑA: YES. >>COUN. ROGERS: YES. >>COUN. SANCHEZ: NO. >> PASSES ON A 6-2 VOTE. >>COUN. GROUT: OKAY, THANK YOU. THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS -- THERE BEING NO FURTHER BUSINESS THIS CITY COUNCIL MEETING IS ADJOURNED.