you guys ready good morning and welcome to the glendale city council budget workshop session of march 2nd 2021 the meeting is called to order i will now conduct an attendance roll call please signify by saying president council member al dahmer president council member clark here council member malnour president council member tom mcchoff president council member turner mayor wires blessed to be here thank you and i'm here as the chair before we get started with item one we have a special guest here to speak to council our guest is a phoenix native who graduated from st mary's high school and attended asu before being drafted by the oakland a's he was then traded to the los angeles dodgers where he remained for the rest of his 12-season career with major league baseball he is a two-time mlb all-star silver slugger and gold glove award winner and as my understanding he would have been inducted in the arizona sports hall of fame this past year before the ceremony was cancelled please welcome mr andre ethier and the special momento a testament to the team's hard work that he brought with him welcome mr ethier before you get started mayor wires would like to present you a proclamation honoring the team and then the floor is yours to speak all right well thank you all uh thank you for uh just literally being blessed to have the opportunity to be here at these meetings so sometimes you don't realize how good we got it until things get taken away from us so with that uh proclamation the city of glendale whereas the major league baseball routes date back to the early 19th century when a baseball light game was played with semi-professional baseball clubs sprouting up both during and after the american civil war and whereas the major league baseball is currently made up of both national and american leagues who annually participate in division playoffs with the winner of each division facing off in the world series and whereas the world series game were first held in 1903 and whereas glendale's own camelback ranch glendale is the proud spring training facility of the los angeles dodgers and where the 2020 world series was a best of seven playoff series held in october of 2020 between the american league champion tampa bay rays and the national league championship los angeles dodgers and whereas the los angeles dodgers won the 2020 world series four games to two and took home the pennant and they're and and they're now now therefore jerry p wires mayor of the city of glendale arizona on behalf of the glendale city council do hereby recognize the world championship los angeles dodgers for their hard working and dedication in overcoming a tremendously difficult year in winning the 2020 world series and i ask that everybody please join me in congratulating the la dodgers on a job well done that was signed by myself and our city clerk so congratulations sir [Applause] thank you mayor wires mr ethier let him turn your microphone on there you go sorry sorry about that thank you uh mayor and members of the city council for allowing me and especially this trophy to join you this morning i like to let you guys know that the chase and that dream of holding this as a dodgers member dodger's organization started here in glendale last year i know abbreviated but started last year here in glendale i would like to recognize your all you members of glendale and especially the residents for always providing the dodgers organization with a first class and one of the best spring training homes of all baseball i can tell you that the owners players staff and fans look forward every year to returning to glendale just kick off spring training in another baseball season this trophy represents a championship and the excellence that the dodgers players staff organization achieved and something we as an organization the dollars organization find here in the city of glendale every year when we return to start off our season so thank you so much we appreciate everything you've done to help us jump start this season and look forward next year to returning with another world series trophy with the dodgers thank you [Applause] thank you mr ethier and something i learned about him today he also attended elementary school right in the heart of old town glendale at glen of burton school so we appreciate that yes yes thank you i looked uh fort i always brag that that's where i got my start was in glendale and uh i appreciate everything in the city of glendale well you're welcome on behalf of the council and olive glendo we thank you for your time and congratulations the los angeles dodgers on winning the 2020 world series [Applause] and now moving on to the workshop agenda ms bowers would you please introduce item one fiscal year 2122 budget workshop good morning mayor vice mayor members of the council again thank you for your time this morning we're going to kick things off with a couple different items and so i'll turn this over at this time to vicky rios lisette camacho and amy lindsey who will be talking today and leading this discussion good morning mayor members of the council today is our third budget workshop on capital improvement plan today we'll talk about the city court remodel update then we'll go through the various projects for psego highway user revenue fund transportation sales tax development impact fees and grants funded capital projects at the end of the presentation we'll open it up for council feedback and questions again today is the third workshop on the capital improvement plan and we'll be discussing the pay as you go or cash funded capital projects transportation sales tax highway user revenue funds development impact fees and grants funded cip projects and with that i'll turn it over to mr phelps um just a couple quick comments as we uh give you an update um on our court situation i think the our court issue today is a series of kind of good news bad news and some even better news obviously what you're going to see on the bad news side today is you're going to see just the condition of our existing courthouse facility it has a number of significant issues that that need to be addressed and and it's it's time to begin starting to address that the the good news is that in working with our new presiding judge we believe that the existing footprint of the courthouse if done if if redeveloped and re-energized it can be a home well into the future and the reason why that's good news is is that the city at one time about 15 years ago had identified a new court facility on new property and had budgeted between had estimated a budget between 45 to 50 million in which to do that the great news is we believe that with a thoughtful approach to the court remodel that we're going to be able to do to repurpose and give a new life to our court facility in working with our our judge that will last us for for many years to come for far less than that and so with that i'll turn it over i believe michelle would tank are you going to hit us off all right thank you mr phelps and uh i am joined today by judge t piazza to help speak to the court needs so just a little bit of of background there are kind of two capital projects we kind of want to clarify what happened so back in fiscal year 1819 we introduced a project into the capital budget for four million dollars we had 400 000 in approximately fiscal year 22 and 3.6 million in 23 and we called that what's now the cipps [Music] that was 19031 but yeah so i could be mistaken i don't know where the 2105.3 came from i had it as 1903 or maybe is that that's a new number i'm sorry okay that's a new number so that was introduced into the capital plan back in 1819 when we did the public safety building assessments which we presented to council in january of 2020 at that time going through the assessments we found there were some urgent needs at the court and so we wanted to accelerate some of those and so we had a capital project the 2003 that had 7.5 million in it this current year and we uh when we were doing the capital presentation accounts last year we talked up to four million to essentially to accelerate that from 2223 into fiscal year 21 and it was it was really predicated by those assessments we did when you know as part of any um potential building remodel the first thing you want to look at is what are the needs with it and so up until you know just several months ago we were working with the presiding judge finn and she had a definite vision for the court and what she wanted and since that point in time we've got a new appointed judge and we wanted to work very closely with him on what his future vision for the court was the last thing we wanted to do was have the building impede the needs of the court and the way he needed it to operate it's not just his needs he also has to comply with arizona supreme court requirements to actually operate a court and we've identified some critical needs issues that need to be addressed immediately and then some long-term needs things that um are i won't say nice to have because i think they're necessary but they're less critical and could be addressed in the longer term just to hit the high points we have some technology needs which will be addressed this morning we have some storage needs that need to be addressed short term and long term we have very basic restroom needs both for visitors and also for the staff and there are security updates that need to be made to the building to make it secure and and and to protect not only our our people our visitors but also our records beyond that there are the long-term needs that uh i'll address at the end of the presentation thank you thank you and so after we we talked with with with the judge and looked at the building needs we went back to the building assessment and we looked at you know what were those critical tier things that we need to do and then what were those other ones and he hit some of the high level ones that we need to take care of that that came out both functionally how does a building building function as well as you know with the infrastructure in the building some of the systems were deficient and we want to make sure we cover all those tonight or this morning sorry and then finally we want to look at you know that future needs and usage and as mr phelps spoke to we looked at the structure of the building the integrity of the building and could this building be you know potentially repurposed or reused if it couldn't be used as a court um so what what's what's the structure like and we actually found some pretty good bones in the building such that we could re repurpose or even renew the court and that's what we want to talk about today is what we're going to do to renew this court building so one of the first needs that we discovered and this is both from an operating perspective what the judge has to go through on a daily basis and what facilities has gone through and so if you want to imagine this building was built in 1991 and while they did a renovation in 2003 what they didn't do was look at the electrical and cooling needs if you remember back to 1991 nobody heard of the term zoom and the technology that we have today is absolutely amazing and part of kovid and pre covid they've changed some of the back of the house ways that the court operates so occasionally they will see a suspect who actually stays in the jail stays in the detention cells and they don't bring them up to the court so they need those video and audio requirements to comply with the court needs and and with the this um the suspect's rights as well and so through this time since 1991 we've continued to add electrical and mainly that it and the technology needs to it and this is a picture of one of the two data closets as we call them today the other data closet we couldn't get it to photograph well because the light is bad it's an old detention it's an old holding cell but there's two things i really want to point out in this the first one is a water sprinkler and i think leset is pointing to that for us right now so in the middle of our electrical and data room if something happens you've got water pouring into it and so that's something we have to take care of and that's not a simple quick fix we actually have to drain the system and move that because you don't want water over your electrical system the other thing that demonstrates the lack of cooling is we have a portable air conditioner not portable anymore because it's been vented in it's now in that room and we still can't maintain temperatures we have to prop the door open and that's the security risk because now anybody who gets into the back part of the court can accidentally get into this room and do whatever they need to so one of the things we want to address immediately with the court is get them proper electrical and data rooms and make sure that the infrastructure is there to support them such that they don't worry about their computer system going down if i could just add to that we refer to these as data closets and they are indeed closets we all have closets in our home that are larger than these data units and it's not just a matter of size uh we're networked of course with the city we're networked with the state courts so there's a lot of technology in the courthouse and it's all based in these little data closets we need to leave the door open during the day and we need to have portable fans in there to keep the room cool i'll tell you that over the weekend court staff comes in from time to time because the alarm goes off and it's going off it's a heat alarm it's going off because the temperatures are rising because on weekends we tend to close the doors for security reasons so it is a critical issue it's critical because our technology uh depends on it um and it's also critical because it's a health and safety issue we have people working within feet of these data closets and there are fans that are constantly on and you could feel the heat actually flowing out of the room this needs to be addressed it needs to be addressed now so that we'll have not only improved technology but also uninterrupted power and service and and that kind of segues into the second issue and that is the issue of electrical service the electrical service for the building was not designed to support the technology needs that we have today and that's part of our problem as you can imagine we have folks now working in in cubicles and everybody's got a computer and many people have printers and there's insufficient power to support the needs thank you michelle so one of the next issues we have is just just inadequate space as the court's added staff over time as they've had to process more cases they've moved people into every possible area and what that's done for them is they've had to look for different locations for storage and so shelving exists in hallways and if you look at each one of those squares on the floor that's about a foot see we've got about two and a half feet of clearance maybe three feet in places that does not comply with current building codes so if we had a fire in that building we'd have a hard time getting people out it does not comply with ada uh and it's just it's it's just a bad situation that we need to rectify you also look at those tiles and chances are those are original to the building in 1991 you know and part of the reason you've you put me in this position is i i can be very critical and so one of the conversations i had with the judge and with his staff was why do you have so much paper and you know truly vetted that out to see is this storage required but when you think about it is a court and they are required to have certain forms and these need to be secured storage as well yeah i i think uh we we speak of storage but it's it's really not a storage issue in my mind it's primarily a safety issue that corridor leads to two courtrooms it leads to a jury room and it also leads to two points of egress from the courthouse and i think it's critical to immediately clear that passageway so that there can be easy ingress and egress from the building and from those particular rooms that i just described to you i think that it's important for us to find an immediate short-term fix to carry us through to the point where we have a long-term solution but i i think it's absolutely critical for us to to move that stored material out of there this is stuff that we use every day it's forms and other administrative supplies and it's uh it's dangerous so i know that the city attorney's office has moved their prosecutors or in the process of moving the prosecutors maybe a short-term fix would be to move storage across the street into that space if it's available to us until we could come up with a more long-term solution to the problem um i'll turn it over to michelle the next need we want to want to just discuss is restrooms um so the the city did go through another we talked about you know i built in 1991 and a major renovation in 2003. it did a minor ada upgrade about 12 years ago they didn't address the aesthetics of the restroom at all all they did was they added a ada compliant restroom well really what that meant was we we lost a stall and so in the court today i think it's 50 plus people that work in there plus all the public and these are the back of the house this is staff only there are two women's stalls and if you just look at this the the number it's that's insufficient for the current building capacity so when you look at the occupants of the building we don't have enough restroom capacity for them so it's one thing we do have to address with it and the men's restroom has actually been converted to a unisex because it's a single stall so anybody can go in and use it just not a good situation and we do want to fix the restrooms for them again three stalls for more than 50 people it's not uncommon for people to leave the building and to to go to nearby facilities can i say it i mean people actually go to the police department to use the restroom uh it's really unacceptable and uh and inconvenient and i think the staff deserves better the problem goes beyond staff the facilities for visitors to the courtroom are also limited and should be addressed as well there are things that have not been improved probably in over 20 years and it's time for that to happen thank you so there's other items that we have also at the the court and these don't photograph as well so i didn't add pictures to these so the security cameras they are outdated so we don't get a good clear image you know part of this is the the court requirements if he's going to have a video court the cameras don't meet the requirements the air conditioning system it was a good design in 1991 but it doesn't work today so we are in the building very frequently from a facility's perspective addressing air quality issues essentially the air conditioning system is fed from the main police station goes into the building and just kind of goes into an open plenum so there's no duct work up there and so any dust or anything like that that might get in this space is actually transmitted so that's one of the fixes we want to make the alarm system fire alarm system does not meet current code requirements and so we want to get that one updated and addressed the furniture doesn't meet current ergonomic standards and i've had discussions with them on their workers comp concerns and that so we want to make sure we take care of that but the other things i want to point out is things that don't impact the operation of the court because we do have to keep this building operational while we do this things like the roofing we've actually been able to get in and already complete that we've we've got some other things coming forward council will see shortly contract for bulletproofing it's bulletproof film and other material that will be done to improve the court we actually also removed a tree outside the tree tree was dead but it's also a security hazard in the sense that somebody could climb the tree get on the roof and make entrance to the court that way so there was other needs we wanted to take care of as part of this project as well again i think we have a dual issue here one is security for the building there are security updates and i won't go into details in an open session but there are security updates that need to be made immediately i know there's planning to update cameras and and other systems but beyond that i think there are health and safety issues um this is a building that has windows that don't open and close all of the air that comes in to the building comes in through the hvac system it's an old system and it needs to be renovated if not replaced you could see the dust around the vents i'm not sure the last time the system's been cleaned out but it's a health and safety issue for the staff people work in that building day in day out i am with them shoulder to shoulder and we we need to update that for health and safety reasons um i think that the building and i'm going to adopt an expression used by michelle has good bones it may have been built in 91 but it's a solid building i'm not an engineer but it looks like it still has a lot of good years ahead of it i know that i've been around for 16 years in glendale we've gone through some difficult years when there just wasn't money to do anything that was necessary and some things got put off um this is a building that could serve the city for a long time and i think in order to make that happen the city needs to invest in the building today to bring it up to standard and and to make it something that is safe and secure for visitors and staff alike and will allow us to use it well into the future so the money that's necessary i think would be money well spent because we'll get many more years out of that building it's serviceable it just needs a little tender loving care there are also some general updates renovations rehabilitation that needs to be done these are the things that are less critical but you know there there are sections of the building that has flooring that's probably close to 30 years old um the ceiling those tiles need to be replaced and it's not a matter of aesthetics alone we had roofing problems before i arrived the the roof has been addressed but the damage that was caused by leaking has not been thoroughly addressed so things like that need to to be dressed as well and it's it's not just aesthetics it's not just to make the building look pretty it's to make it a safe place to work a comfortable place to work and a building that the city can be proud of thank you vice mayor that's meredith thank you vice mayor um just before we move on most of what i'm seeing here is pretty basic fundamental needs for the court absolutely i i'm very supportive of them um you know some of what the building looks like on the interior looks more like the end of the judicial system not the beginning what i mean by that is more of a jail setting than the beginning of what you do so i i i'd like to see this done the hallways don't meet ada access for employees should we have any but what i want to ask is i see all of this that needs to be done but there's also some aesthetics on the exterior of the building that i don't see in your plan here's why i waited to the end that i feel needs to be addressed as well so as i said this is the beginning of the judicial system and as people come into that complex there are some things that we need to be doing i'm not talking complete redoing the landscape but there's some hardscape there that looks doesn't look aesthetically pleasing there's some awnings that we need to take care of so i'd like to ask for our staff and our city manager to consider that as well these are not all aesthetic aesthetics that you're looking here more of needs but we our curb appeal isn't there for that facility we have a lot of visitors and so i'd like to somebody to address what is the plan for that period thank you vice mayor you're welcome council member tom shaw thank you vice mayor um i i think this is the first phase i think what we're talking about now this is this isn't the complete project for the city court remodel isn't it uh vice mayor councilmember thomas off you're correct and so if you want me to i could go through the next slide and just go through the next steps i do have another question though because i'm i see that it was removed from public safety the project's been removed but i don't because i was going to look and see where you know where there was money more money in out years but i don't even find it in the book now is it where where is it in this book vice mayor members of the council the project hasn't been added yet it will be added in the next draft of the um cip okay because that's what i was looking for was additional funding in the out years and i don't see that so i do have another question when she's finished so thank you so uh the the next steps on the on the court project just one second councilmember clark thank you vice mayor and it relates to the the two major issues that you identified as immediate needs the data closets and the storage space that building is finite in terms of space available to use i just and i'm sure the design expert consultant will come up with something but how do you propose to increase space for data storage or the data closet and your storage space i mean that's been the problem all along there's been no place to put it vice mayor council members and council member clark uh i i'm not an architect but we've had uh people go through the building and we believe we found an area where we could add some square footage to it and create a storage room part of that next step the contract with the architect would actually be to look at that and determine could it actually be done and that's part of the design phase so that would be one of the next steps we'd want to do we think it might work we just you know haven't gone to that extent to making sure it would work thank you so the next steps our staff would like to bring back to council a contract for the architect and the architect would do just that we would review the programming with a new presiding judge to make sure we're meeting his needs meeting the needs of a functioning court there are concerns that we have and it's not a simple remodel because we do need to keep the building functioning so while we may want to get into a courtroom we have to work very closely with the judge on how do we do that how does it impact his schedule how does he continue to operate a court while we do undergo a major renovation so there's a lot of need for a design of phases potentially after hours work and weekend work but we do know he's also got weekend courts so we really have to work very closely with the judge and then it's it's looking at you know can we address all those short-term needs well we also look at you know what's the future of courts and what other technology needs they have so there's a very good chance that this is not a one-and-done project that we have to then look at what's next and if it's some of that where you know it's there's a subsequent phase where we do have to address those things that we couldn't get in the first one like the exterior of the building but that's part of what we we need the architect to go through and do this programming with us first of all i'm uh encouraged by comments made by council um councilmember aldama councilmember tomaszeff and also council member clark we are concerned with more needs what we tried to highlight this morning are the immediate and critical needs but they are by no means the only needs that we have i certainly would not come in to you this morning and suggest let's address the aesthetics first the items that we brought to your attention are the ones that need to be addressed first however budget allowing we do want to address the aesthetics as well again this is downtown glendale it's it's in the heart of the the city we want it to be an attractive building a welcoming building uh and a comfortable building um and and we want it to be a showcase but i'm not going to come in here and say let's let's do the uh the facelift and make it look pretty but not functional so there's a lot more that needs to be done but i think these are the first steps and if we do these then we could continue operating safely and securely and address the other issues as we go on thank you council member thomas thank you vice mayor so i i want to circle back to the the our the binder um i'm not i'm not sure i understood the answer that we're so we're having the presentation today but we don't we're not able to see a snapshot of the future planning for the courthouse so is it just are we getting another binder or i'm not vice mayor members of the council yes you will get a new binder after we um we discuss all of the cip that would incorporate all the changes and consensus from the city council we expect to provide that to you before tentative cip adoption um that's scheduled for the 20th and the binders will be ready by monday the 12th okay um vice mayor if i could i have another question i know the courthouse was constructed probably too late to be and have any concerns about asbestos but are we sure there's no asbestos in that building vice mayor and council members council member tom mcshaff part of any reconstruction or remodel project we do go through and do asbestos testing so we would we would determine that prior to doing any actual construction so that's part of when we're done the design phase we actually go in and do the testing for hazardous materials thank you hopefully we don't find any that that that creates more cost so thank you anyone else council member turner thank you sir appreciate the presentation today i didn't notice anything in it today that was new that we haven't seen and i've been on the council six years and i think probably five of them we've been seeing these kinds of issues so i'm glad that we're continuing we've cured some issues over there over the five years we've taken care of problems and i'm glad to see that we're continuing on addressing these kinds of problems but as it's been alluded to we have bigger problems there too as well i think you know been over there on several times several occasions and employees are shoehorned into much too small square footage we have them shoehorn you know warrant processing officers that are shoehorned into what you know kind of cubbyholes and walkway spaces as well i'm also you know we spoke some quite a bit about security but we have sight line issues um through that courtroom where security can't see hallways that lead to courtrooms and that sort of thing so there's adding a minor amount of square footage to resolve some space needs for technology will help in that area but i i think that we need to look at adding some more serious square footage to the building perhaps another a new courtroom or two that are outside but attached to the current footprint of course and then perhaps converting courtroom space into more back of the house employee space those sorts of things i think we've got more work to do here than what this is looking at i think it's a lot more work and i'd like us to proceed with some haste in that direction this has been a long drawn out project so far and if we're going to be planning our financials for the future we need to know that we have these kinds of of needs out there before we while we're looking at future money streams and that sort of thing thank you okay thank you mayor council the next slide is a pie chart of the draft 10-year cip by funding source you've seen this slide before the total draft 10-year cip is about 1.3 billion dollars the two largest components are general obligation bonds at 31 and the enterprise funds at 38 percent for today's presentation we'll be discussing the pay as you go the transportation sales tax the highway user revenue funds development impact fees and grants funded cip and you can see those pie slices kind of pulled out in this chart the focus for today's presentation is the the first year which is your fiscal year 2022 that is the budget that city council is appropriating with the fiscal year 22 budget adoption this slide is the the various funds for the funding sources so you have two funds for pay as you go that's fun 1080 general government capital projects and 2110 for the arts commission the next bullet is the general obligation bonds then you have all the development impact fees funds you have highway user revenues transportation sales tax enterprise funds for water sewer landfill solid waste and grants fund and with that i'll turn over the presentation again to ms michelle waitenko thank you lissette so the first section we're going to go through today is the facilities cip projects and this is just a list of the funding sources we've got general government we're going to talk about perf because there is a her funded project and then the transportation capital projects this next slide lists all the individual projects so the first one there the glendale operations campus this is you know the transportation component of it and as we discussed the glendale operations campus on february 9th the descriptive justification and funding of this project will change and will be updated so this was the the prior allocation of 6 million and as we discussed as programming and design progresses one deliverable coming out of this project will be a new updated cost allocation model so currently we're looking at instead of six million coming out of that transportation fund it would drop to about four million those next projects the electrical system renewal elevator system renewal fire protection renewal plumbing system renewal hvac repair and replacement space planning interior updates and building exterior ceiling and renewal these are ones where you see that funding in general in fiscal years 26 through 31 these are these are placeholders and what we mean is that we we know the buildings have some needs and we're trying to uh put funding in when we think it's needed and so to do this we developed these programs knowing that buildings could need you know for example as we just saw in the court electrical system needs and what we do is every year we go through as we're in the buildings completing preventative maintenance and other activities we assess these systems as part of our asset management program we're developing and what we try and do is as we get closer we develop specific projects within like three and four years so the reason you don't see a lot of these in like electrical systems is when we do the court project we're going to address it but let's say for example if we didn't have a city hall project and we had no plans to go and do a complete remodel in that building for the next 10 years we might want to address it through our electrical system renewal and that would be an example of it so if we look at you know some of the recent things we've discovered we've addressed them the recent sign building remodel that we did we addressed a lot of these programs with it the ones if we look at i'm looking for rick if we look at um your security camera improvements uh so in fiscal year 22 we see some needs and so we put funding in there mayor members of the council as you know uh this council dedicated funds from the fund balance to assist with this project this year i'm happy to say that we've done sidewalks at all of our phase one facilities we have 25 phase one facilities that range from libraries to community centers to skate parks and and saguaro ranch park city hall the court building airport landfill kind of a broad range across the city of facilities that we believe need to have security camera systems installed sooner rather than later those sidewalks are all completed we're doing the the scope and for the proposal that should come to council on march 23rd and we will begin installing cameras after that the funds that are dedicated to this security camera improvement project for next year will likely be used for access control and then to enter into our phase two of security cameras but the overwhelming majority of this funding will be for access control our access control system today that's your key card access your badge if you will to get into facilities is an old system and a failing system and so working with mr mercia and i t and his deputy director arlene camelo we are talking to vendors about what we need to do to make those improvements so that our facilities are secure from an access standpoint and then from a security camera standpoint and again a contract for security cameras will be coming in about a month and then we'll follow that up with an access control contract for this council to review so the roofing system renewal project that we have it also started as a program we were able to working very closely with some contractors and we've got a roofing specialist in-house we were able to develop some specificity to it so we brought these projects forward and that's really what we should be doing in any program so as you see more specific funding so in fiscal year 22 the 83 000 there is for large maintenance types projects so non-capitalized repairs and if you remember back we talked the geo bond funded project we had a roofing project in that and so anything we can capitalize we put that way and so we actually have fiscal year 23 24 and 25 with potential roof projects in it staff recommended roof projects so for fiscal year 23 we can look at the media center manistee ranch and some community centers although we may bring the community centers forward if the cash funding with the az cares this year provides for it so skipping over the next projects which are just the programs as i described before the fleet air compressor replacement that 32 000 is the one we saw in a transportation project that's a carry over amount so that's current fiscal year project so that's a carryover estimate that project as we sit here today is currently complete and so that will be removed from the final cip as we get the final cost in on that project the next project to city hall third floor hvac unit that's also a carryover amount that's a current year project and it is 98 percent complete engineering and facilities worked all weekend shut down the third floor put the new unit in and that air conditioning is functioning really well right now and just some minor tweaks needed on on the programming so that will be complete here shortly the second floor hvac unit is in the same status it's going to be complete by the end of the fiscal year we're just waiting on the unit to arrive to schedule its installation the next project is building maintenance reserve this is the fund that addresses all those issues that that cannot wait this is our immediate we found it we we have to go fix it now and so it's it's not the 1.5 million as a high level estimate what we've done is we've taken uh the 83 000 up and roofing from the 1.5 million and then we've got some carryover added into it so whatever we hadn't spent as a as a one budget ran this snapshot um we we look at you know when we did that public safety building assessment back in january 2020 and i said to you all those tier one all those critical items that were life and safety we fixed them we fixed them out of this fund and this is this is what facilities uses every year to go it's the fix it now fund the camelback ranch 1.67 million is staff's recommendation for funding the camelback ranch facility just as a reminder it's it's uh you know a lot of acres 118 000 square feet of clubhouse space 13 full-size ball fields three half fields and so contractually we're required to replace two fields on an annual basis and those cost us between 250 and 350 000 so this is a staff recommendation for that and then the arena we have also programmed in and recommending 1.3 million for next year and if you remember back early in the in the past year we did an emergency contingency request for 450 000 for a cooling tower that's one of three and we looked at the other two and they're in need of replacement so we've got one programmed in each of the next subsequent years we also have the roof being replaced in sections as well as variable speed pumps for the chilled water distribution system and that kind of goes through a summary of all these projects and with that we have slides on each specific project i'd be happy to answer any questions you have thank you councilmember tom and shaw thank you vice mayor i um of course want to talk about camelback ranch um i i la two years ago i remember we we got i think the first time we ever got a request for this amount of money one point almost 1.7 million dollars and um and we met with you and then we went out and actually walked the property um and we we scaled back um the requests the requests that were submitted i still have that request but a lot of the stuff was carpet um my favorite 100 500 chairs 12 tvs phones monitors things like that i thought we had at that point decided that we were going to scale back to and and do a set-aside every year instead of you know basically a 1.7 million dollar i don't want to say slush fund but i mean if you give somebody a hundred dollars and say take care of the things that you need and and they're gonna find a hundred dollars worth of things that they need if you give them fifty dollars to say take care of things that you need they're gonna prioritize the things that they need my point being we're going to need to address some big ticket items in the future and setting some of this money aside every year now and scaling back from the tvs and the telephones and the carpet that facility is getting way more wear and tear because they're running their entire minor league operations out of there which i contend wasn't what the agreement was for in the first place so it's getting way more wear and tear and um you know it it's the hard use with cleats and things like that on the furniture and the facilities out there so i'd like to have a discussion about lowering the actual the fields the netting the batter's eyes the things that that have to be replaced absolutely but the vacuums and some of this other stuff to basically start doing a set-aside every year so in three or four or five years when we have a big ticket item out there we've got some money set aside to address it rather than spending 1.7 every year every year and then in a few years we've got a big ticket item anyway and we've spent that money on things that probably maybe weren't really priorities so i'd like anybody else to weigh in vice mayor council member turner i probably couldn't agree more with councilmember thomas off i was surprised to see this big of a number put in here for annual i was under the impression that we would be looking at something at about um roughly half that number and then also the the set aside fund that would grow over time so that when these big ticket items come that we know will come that we'll have been responsible and planned ahead for it a million seven for all intents and purposes year after year after year after year adds up to some real money pretty quick and you know like in the first year i think we owe it to our residents to trim this as much as contractually possible and make sure that they're not carrying any more of the burden out there than the contract calls for and also to continue to encourage the teams to take a more active role in our community providing benefits whether they be financial or non-financial back to our residents for all of the money that we're spending out there not just this maintenance money but also the capital money the bonds that we're retiring it's it's quite a burden on our residents and i'm it's one of those kind of deals if you had to do it all over again you wouldn't so make sure you get everything you can squared away in the deal that you do have so i'd like to see that rethought and these numbers look different before final approval anyone else no mr vice councilmember clark the only comment that i would make is that it's been a long long time since i've reviewed the camelback ranch agreement and i would like staff to provide me and hopefully the rest of council with what are our contractual obligations with regard to major maintenance and day-to-day maintenance i just need more information thank you you ready please please move forward the next presentation is on public safety capital improvement projects i'll turn it over to miss waitenko and mr st john so in these projects we have a far west fire station as you know we've acquired two parcels of land in the far west area in anticipation of eventually needing to build a fire station in that area for the growth in speaking with mr phelps and chief garrison of the fire department we are also in communication with the bordering cities in the automatic aid system to ensure that there's adequate coverage until and at such time as we need to place an engine company or a medical response unit in that area probably medical response unit first and then eventually we may need an engine company based on calls in the area and the growth needs i'll ask chief briggs to step in he's got a lot more information about the drone project or the unmanned aerial vehicles as it's labeled and also about the growth police vehicle so if we can give him just a minute to step over and hopefully he's paying attention so chief if you would uh discuss the unmanned aerial vehicle project please sure what we're asking for are two drones that would be operated out of our real-time crime center with the drones we'll be purchasing some software that allows it to be geospatially operated so height floor would be preset and essentially if you get a priority one call the drone will launch it will get over the scene it will be much like the real-time crime center with our cameras but we'll then have the ability to pilot it so if the scene moves the suspect moves we can provide that information to the officers as they're responding or while they're on the scene so it increases our response time to priority ones and priority twos in addition to that makes us more efficient because we know what's going on and we can send resources where they need to be rather than just chasing the call itself thank you vice mayor uh two questions are the drones flexible enough or fast enough that they can follow a a vehicle that's fleeing the scene well it depends on the speed of the vehicle but the vehicle is going 50 60 miles an hour it would probably be able to catch up maybe not stay with it but i'm sorry not stay at the same speeds but be able to track it but there will be some distance restrictions on the drones as far as how far we can fly them out and that's based on our software and the drones that we get as well as faa requirements okay my other thought was and this is just a weird way out thought but we have a lot of issues with fireworks in the city is there any way these drones can be used to actually identify those who are shooting off illegal fireworks in different parts of the city so we had an email conversation about this we still have to look into it our initial thought as we roll this out is not to make these drones part of a patrol function so they won't just be out flying around it will be very specific in nature of what they go up for the other concern is when it's night time when the fireworks are going up not always but most of the time and i would hate for the drone to get shot out of the sky so there's some safety considerations with that okay if if you can figure out a way to work it out i think that would be a good use of the drone thank you councilmember thomas thank you vice mayor good morning chief briggs um would these be able to be used for traffic control for um events where were responsible for traffic say you know concerts football games super bowls that kind of thing would they have that kind of ability where they would be able to um i know we're obligated for a helicopter but would they be able to be working in conjunction or maybe even in place of a helicopter vice mayor council member barring the the contractual obligations that we may or may not have with the helicopter they could be used for something like that maybe not these two drones we are getting some other drones that we're going to be using for um person crimes and vehicular crimes that we could possibly use for special events absolutely i in the sky being able to look at traffic control um people in grassy grass yes okay awesome they're they're a lot more maneuverable i mean helicopters are maneuverable but drones are a lot more maneuverable um and then one last question this covers i think that you need specialized training so this uh dollar amount includes training for at least a couple of of your officers this is for the purchase of the drones in the budget process we have a sub for software that's ongoing and that will include the training okay awesome thank you vice mayor if i may add that uh the drone program and the far west station are part of the development and p improvement fees uh in the in the programming under the dif funds nicely council member yeah thank you sir um so if i heard correctly um my understanding is the drones we're talking about today would be drones that would be deployed from a static location uh to a class one a high priority event but then later we may have requests for additional drones that would be more site-specific or have other more utilitarian uses is that what we're looking at uh vice mayor council member that's correct so we are getting some other drones um not as expensive um because of the purpose with our persons crimes and our vehicular crimes unit these will be specific to the real-time crime center and as we write our policy we're going to be pretty restrictive but we could see some growth there's also distance issues with these drones so as we expand this program we'll have to have other sites further north or further west to get the coverage that we're looking for thank you anyone else vice mayor if we may uh we'll move on to the growth of vehicles chief can you speak to the growth vehicles please uh yes so we're running out of vehicles we have increased our sro program as you're aware and we didn't get any vehicles with that and many years ago we also increased or didn't increase we added the cso program and didn't have any vehicles for that we had some extra vehicles so we were absorbing that but as time has gone on we've had vehicles go down we've had some vehicles that have been involved in some serious collisions that are part of evidence so they can't be totaled and insured out there we have to keep them so this is just to help us with the vehicles nice mayor councilmember clark how many vehicles were you talking about i think i read three it was just three that's not enough is it i mean is this the bare minimum yeah this year this is this is what we're looking for do you anticipate i mean there's nothing beyond this year there's no nothing for 23 24 25 do you anticipate coming back and asking for more funding for more vehicles at some point vice mayor council member yes we do this particular diff fund and i need budget to help me but this is a specific year and then there's other out years for the diff for public safety vice mayor members of the council there's also a budget in the vehicle replacement fund which is funded by general fund for police vehicles for new vehicles and replacement of vehicles are do we typically get x number of new vehicles per year vice mayor members of the council yes we have uh we're on track to replace about 43 police vehicles per year all right thank you this is our fire apparatus replacement and so we are currently in the process of perching an engine and we're looking at in the future of replacing chassis rather than entire engines but this would meet the needs of the fire department and the replacement of their larger more expensive engines the next section of the presentation is on parking lot capital improvement projects and i'll turn it over to ms moytenko thank you mr macho so this is very similar to sorry everything here is very similar what we discussed earlier with with the programs so we know that our parking lots across the city have needs and as we start identifying actual parking lots with actual needs will add specificity to it so right now these are these are placeholders out there and you'll remember when we talked the general obligation bonds there was a project in there for the city hall parking garage as we did the assessment of that we found we we needed to do some work uh we worked with with budget and finance and identified a separate capital project and and put it in there so we have nothing identified in the first four years and as we get closer to needing money we'll add specific parking lots with specific costs in the description and funding for this project uh vice mayor for clarification i just want to understand what you just said there is a separate project to address the needs of of city hall parking coming up is that correct uh vice mayor uh council members councilman clark that is correct we discussed that project in under the general obligation bond several weeks ago yes and it's been several weeks and i've already forgotten about it thank you the next section of the presentation is the arts capital improvement projects and i'll turn over the presentation to ms lindsey mayor or vice mayor members of the council we have one project within the uh the arts commission fund that's the municipal arts program this is the annual funding that helps support that program through uh the purchase of art of in public places as well as performing arts um implementing the annual arts plan and maintaining and restoring the city's art portfolio and there is a member of economic development here if you have any specific questions about this project any questions on hearing uh yeah i do council member clerk yeah just one um can we just talk historically the municipal arts program it was many many many years ago that an ordinance was passed requiring one percent from new development projects to go into the arts program can you talk about that a little bit so that the general public has a better understanding because some constituents have um and believe that this is a frivolous program vice mayor members of the council i'll defer that question to moshkin oh yes so um vice mayor council members good morning you would like to know the history of the program so the program was established back in the 80s and it directs one percent of qualifying capital improvement projects that are completed each year through the city into the fund and this is this was established to kind of improve quality of life projects and programs including public art and city infrastructure and so the fund balance that you see is the sole source of funding to administer and support the programs and projects of the arts and culture program what contributes to this each year the office of budget and finance go through and calculate the qualifying projects that have been completed throughout the city the capital improvement projects and so a deposit is made into this fund and um for the last uh to give you an example last three years that calculation averages about 428 000 a year so um that forms the basis of the of the fund and each year through the operating to through the budget process council approves our operating budget from this and as you will see um in the next few weeks the operating budget that's being proposed will come out of this fund in addition to that any capital improvement public art projects that the arts commission will recommend throughout the year anything over a 50 000 will come to the entire commission to counsel for review and approval for funding so any type of public card will be subject to your approval council remember thomas thank you vice mayor um so the one point uh one million two hundred forty five thousand one hundred twenty five dollars is showing as a carryover yes so that's a cumulative fund each year so our operating as i mentioned our operating budget and any future capital improvement public art projects will be coming out of this fund typically to give you an example if our operating budget is 340 000 a year or 280 000 a year that is approved by council then subsequently the the calculation for the money that gets deposited into the fund as a result of capital improvement city projects that are completed is slightly over that it has been on average like i mentioned 428 000 a year so um there is a positive balance that's maintained each year for the last few years regardless of our expenditures for the project nice mayor if i could so so we may we basically maintain that 1.2 million dollar balance it has been exactly as i mean i'm just i'm just curious is there a reason for that or we just want to keep that in case for like for a big project or so again um for the capital projects there's an opportunity each year to work with other departments for example the court building if there's there are going to be improvements for that facility there's an opportunity for the for the staff to come to the arts commission and request public art to be included as part of that infrastructure improvement okay thank you absolutely vice mayor i have one more okay i don't remember when might have been with all the payments we made for hockey and having the nhl operate the arena or manage the team or whatever for us but it seems to me that at one point the city borrowed money or took money out of the municipal arts program i think it was around a million dollars has that ever been replaced or put back into the municipal arts program uh vice mayor council member clark to my understanding that was before my time in my current role but to my understanding when the external and the internal audit programs were done they determined that that money had been removed with authorization and therefore was not required to be paid back well it seems to me and from what i remember it was council's intent at that time that the money would be replaced that wherever we borrow i think we borrowed from landfill we borrowed from arts municipal arts i can't remember where else we borrowed from to accumulate 50 million dollars toward paying paying the nhl and i i remember that it was always council's intent that that those funds would be replaced i wish someone would check into it further and and see if there's any way that we can make it whole i know we're repaying landfill slowly but i also think we have an obligation to repay the arts program thank you vice mayor that's remember just one quick question uh one of clarification what are the restrictions on the use of this this fund i mean when when can the arts council say here we have the money we would like to do this project what restrictions do you have in recommending those so typically for the capital improvement public art projects it is requested that the the item come to the arts commission through the department the commissioning department for example if transportation has a streets project that they would like to include public art the request goes to the commission and the commission will then review the the request and work with staff to set a budget for that and then subsequently that item would come to city the city city council for approval for the funding um in addition if the council approves the funding for that project the artist contract will come before city council for funding as well for approval as well this would be for any project that that is over fifty thousand dollars for anything below fifty thousand dollars the arts commission has the authority to recommend that and move forward obviously we would make that a an item that we would definitely let the council know about an example of that is last week's arts commission meeting the arts commission approved the mural for the family advocacy center in downtown glendale and that was reported through the city manager's weekly update the council uh again i i don't know if i quite answered my question um so can you recommend any art project anywhere in the city at any point in time the preference you know recording according to the existing guidelines for the arts which is the last master plan that was completed for the city of glendale um it is recommended that public art be placed in the most visible areas for public art for the for the benefit of the public and visitors and residents alike obviously it also funds the performing arts component of the program as well you know and and definitely the arts commission is the the body that recommends those projects to the council um but that's basically it it's as long as it's a benefit to the public and present it free of charge if it's a performing arts event thank you absolutely council member turner thank you um i mean little voice trouble today um i'd just like to add a little bit to the history of this program it was back during the mayorship of george renner in which this came forward and it was originally as i recall a half a percent and it was successful and it went on to be a full percent we've seen the money used for one of the earliest pieces was the lundin which is here in downtown glendale as you enter the library there at 58th avenue it's been hugely popular since the day it went up and it's a touchstone for many people in the community but we've also done at our other libraries at our public safety facilities you know sculpture and purchasing art for all of our buildings as you walk through our buildings um instead of having you know prints that came from the dime store we've got real pieces of art that are produced by local artists in a lot of cases the city uh inventory of art um i think appreciates on an annual basis with some outstanding artists like mccall and edmel and many others that uh and not to mention chihuly the last work up at the north library up there so it really has been a i think a contribution to what was mentioned the quality of life we may we may have opportunities i think to do more i know the new library out in the western area art was a major part of the design or a significant part of the design with that and arts money was used to complete those portions of it so it's all i think it's i think it's something that's appreciated by far more residents than residents who might be critical or of it so i think it's a valuable program as i recall at the time that the city did that i think we were the first city in the country to statutorily set aside a portion of our capital improvement program and dedicate it to art so it really is something that we were a first and we should be proud of the question i have is that it seems to me that a council member made an inquiry a year or two or three ago about this urban legend that money had been taken from the arts fund and used to cover i think hockey expenses and i believe there was research done at that time and i thought we got feedback that maybe it was something had possibly been considered but there was no no on a trail showing that it ever occurred so could we have some clarity on that thank you uh vice mayor members of the council i i don't remember that and so we'll have to go do the research and get back to you i don't have a recollection of that but it may have happened but we'll just do it again if that's what the council would like thank you i would like to see us put it to bed one way or the other one final time and and maybe use some of the arts fund to make a plaque and put it on the wall so everybody can see whether it did or didn't happen i don't know thank you the next group of projects are projects that are in the finance department there is one project within this particular funding source which is general government capital this project was established as a contingency for the projects that were approved by council or received that count council consensus back in october that were used with funding within the general fund so if any of those projects start to reach their funding limitations and need additional funding the department can request a transfer out of this project and into one of those projects go ahead for instance give me an example please uh vice mayor council member clark if the painting at murphy park project was going to exceed the funding that council had approved for it and i know you guys have been receiving project updates on some of those i think there was one a couple weeks ago that indicated that one of those projects required some additional funding council would approve that request and then the department can request a budget transfer from this project into that particular project in order to complete it thank you councilmember tom chav so i'm not sure that the visitors or a customer service center would fall under this category but i did kind of revise my um idea and request for that i don't know if this would be the appropriate time to bring that up i it was in mrs rios's responses to previous questions that were asked that we received this morning right before the workshop so i don't know if i should save that for um what kind of i've kind of rethought what i thought we should do or at least consider doing um with i just wanted to know if this was the appropriate time to bring that up if that would be part of this finance cip vice mayor members of the council if it pleases the entire council we can certainly discuss it at this time okay so um i know you know every budget year i've i've you know said i i feel like we should have a customer service center or someplace that's that is to greet the public when they come into city hall and because we're considering you know moving forward with remodeling city hall although that's probably at least a few years away i thought we could at least talk about turning that lobby where they're where the bill pay is and put up some signs and make that a customer service center where there's already people there there's already a space there um you know it's busy a couple of days a month but not every day i mean most the time when we come in and out of the first floor there's not a whole lot happening there where somebody could uh you know pass out maps of downtown and answer questions direct people if somebody needs to pick up something from one of the council offices or from the city clerk or something there could be a window basically operate it like uh like you would a bank and when there's a lot of customers lined up in there to pay their bills then everybody's a bill uh you know everybody's doing that process but you know a lot of times and um in in banking because the people that are staffing those teller windows are doing other things when there's not a line of people to make deposits and cash checks so this would be literally probably just putting up signs and it wouldn't require a new person it would just require maybe some additional training but when somebody walks into city hall it says customer service center they can accept bill pays but they can do other things besides just accepting payment on on their utility bills so i just thought i would throw that out there this really would be almost almost no cost to accomplish that but when we when somebody walks into the city hall lobby it's it says that we want to offer customer service vice mayor yes this is uh first i've heard of this but it sounds like a good win-win short-term solution i know that our our general intent is when we do the city court remodel we will have some kind of customer service center but councilmember tom choff is right there a lot of times when there are not a lot of people paying bills water bills or whatever at the existence site and cross-training a person or two to act as a customer service rep might be a good idea and as she said it's it doesn't cost a whole heck of a lot other than the training and some signage um it's not a bad idea council member tom job i'd like um staff just to pursue it and see if what the cost implications and staffing implications would be if we were to do something like that city manager mr vice mayor members of the council it seems to me this would be um you know really kind of the way we would approach a council item of special interest uh we can sit down with councilmember tomlinshof and scope out exactly the you know kind of the specifics of it then we can bring it back um as as was indicated this may not be a large budget item but more just an operational item so i would maybe propose that we just will kind of treat this as a council out of a special interest and immediately reach out to the council member and start kind of framing the uh that'd be our recommendation obviously we can we can do it however the council pleases vice mayor if i could respond to that so would you like me to bring that up as an item of special interest at the march 9th workshop vice mayor um councilmember tom and jeff no i think we can go ahead and just we'll process it today i mean there's no need to to wait on that okay um that would be in my mind if that if you're comfortable with that approach we'll assign somebody as we always do to sit down and scope it out with you all right thank you the next section of the presentation is on drainage capital improvement projects and with that i'll turn over the presentation to mr bessler and mr milanese good morning vice mayor members of council i'm don besser with the engineering department i'm joined by james milanese also from the engineering department we have a very strong storm drainage and flood control program in history frankly in the city of glendale and in your cip today you have two projects and a program that has smaller projects in it um as we go through the slides but those projects are drainage improvements on glen drive from 59th to 52nd excuse me bethany home storm drainage from 43rd to 51st and then we have a program called local drainage problems and what that consists of is a variety of smaller projects that we've either identified from feedback and input from our council members from our residents or field observations of local flooding conditions that happen in neighborhoods or projects that we've identified in our glendale area storm drainage master plan i'll explain those projects in just a moment go to the next page the first item is the glenn drive 59th the 52nd and we're very fortunate that we have about 2.1 million uh dollars of of um bonding authority left to spend on that as well as 3.4 million dollars worth of bond i'm sorry of grants i said that backwards 2.1 million worth of grants and about 3.4 million dollars worth of bonding authority left over to affect that project it's again to address problems in this vicinity in the downtown area documented drainage local flooding issues that we have the next item is bethany home 43rd to 51st this is a significantly large project what you're seeing today is just the grant portion along with some carryover but the project is about 9.4 million dollars in total it's again to deal with local flooding issues in the area around 43rd to 51st it's around bethany home there'll be actually a small amount of improvements on bethany home proper but it will address known flooding issues that we have in that area in the local drainage program is really as i said to address smaller projects on more of an ongoing basis the two projects that are next in the queue are royal shadows that's in the area of 67th and olive and the one that will follow up after that is apollo gardens and that's in the area 59th and thunderbird approximately again small local flooding issues it's a way for us to show a level of care with the storm drainage issues that neighborhoods have to encounter during significant events that's the total of our presentation and we can certainly answer any questions you might have about those projects nice mayor councilmember clark mr bessler would it be fair to say that drainage or as we call it flooding is driven in large part by grants that we receive from maricopa county flood control district and usually in terms of matching what do they require 10 50 percent what is the amount of matching that that the county usually requires to okay a project thank you vice mayor council member clark generally it's about 50 50 but there are times when they match us at a little bit higher percentage and there are times that they are slightly lower but generally it's around that 50 50. it's a very good value for our residents thank you all right thank you the next section of the presentation is on park's capital improvement projects and with that i'll turn over the presentation to mr burke mayor members of the council just one item of note before mr burke starts i just wanted to remind um council that at this point these are just the parks projects that are funded by these funding sources mr burke has already done a presentation on the um on his projects in parks that are funded from general obligation bonds so this is a subset of his entire uh project plan thank you vice mayor go ahead i don't know if this is the appropriate place and if it's not you tell me but one of the questions that that had been asked at the last last council meeting was if the amphitheater would qualify for a cultural facility bonds and we were told that the answer is yes does this fit in with our parks discussion or should i hold off till later uh vice mayor it's really up to you as the chairperson if what we discuss at this time so we're okay with it okay how how much capacity do we have under cultural facility authorization vice mayor members of the council give me a minute i have the numbers here okay and and while she's looking while miss camacho's looking if we were decide to decide to use cultural facility appropriation for the amphitheater and wanted to start work on it immediately in the upcoming fiscal year is this one of those situations where we have to bump something else or is there enough capacity debt capacity left that we could initiate this as a project vice mayor members of the council there's about 13 million in remaining voter authorization under the cultural facility okay so my second question is is if we decide to appropriate or authorize say for the design of the amphitheater in the upcoming fiscal year is there enough debt capacity to do that or do we have to bump a project mayor our vice mayor members of the council before we answer that question i i did want to remind council as i put in my um memo to you that bond authority is for one cultural facility so keep in mind that if we do use this which it's up to the um decision of the council if we do use this for the amphitheater that will be the one cultural facility that you're able to use it for it still has capacity to do historical properties which was it was cultural and historical within the bond language but it contemplates a culture a cultural facility in addition to that there is capacity to do at least a study beyond that [Music] and some type of programming and probably some architectural design or something like that we could probably do in the next fiscal year beyond that it would depend on what is the estimate of the cost of the amphitheater itself hopefully that answers your question yes you did and and i would ask council for consensus to consider this as the one cultural facility for which this authorization can be used and to consider an appropriation for design of the facility in this coming fiscal year and i would appreciate any discussion i would support that um again i would like to also know if we had plans for other cultural uh facilities that this would bump uh if there's any plans down the road um so that it would have an informed decision councilmember darwin thank you vice mayor um i'm never opposed to improving the amphitheater however we've had conversations about the improvements to city hall so i'm wondering if it's a better idea to have the holistic conversation about city hall and include the amphitheater all at once rather than bifurcate it and not give it the justice that it actually deserves and so when we design city hall we we also discuss the amphitheater and how it can be part of the whole design so i'm not too sure that this is premature or we wait to include it as part of that council member tom and john thank you vice mayor um i understand that sentiment but this could move up um i mean maybe we need to have the discussion i think we're going to be having a discussion about our vision for our future for downtown and if we decide that we're going to change our vision and what we're going to focus our funding and attention and energy on in downtown and we decide that it's going to be featuring the amphitheater i like the idea council member clark because this gives us the ability to move it up if it's part of the city hall remodel it's still probably at least maybe at the earliest three years away um so if we're going to change if we're going to change um our vision for downtown and it's going to be pursuing the music and and you know making uh the amphitheater of the focal point down here i'd rather do it sooner than later so but i don't know whether that would be a discussion that we would need to roll into our downtown discussion that we're having i think sometime later this spring council member clark thank you and and that is what what council member tomichov stated is exactly my reasoning until we develop some destination entertainment locations for downtown we are doomed to see downtown exist as it is the amphitheater i think is one component of creating that ongoing destination entertainment venue i think it is critically important to downtown and to all the downtown merchants and i do appreciate that it's part of the city hall remodel project but as councilmember tomachoff stated i'll be we'll be lucky if we see anything in three years realistically it may be far longer than that i for the benefit of the merchants downtown and for the benefit of some major revitalization project for downtown i would like to see a start on the amphitheater as soon as possible and if this is a funding venue vehicle that we can use i think it's to our advantage to consider it i'm not sure waiting till we have a vision for downtown because that may be after budget is already approved so i would at least like support to at least fund the design and get that much started it doesn't commit major dollars to construction and that can be considered after we have had our discussion on the downtown's vision but but i would at least like to see us proceed with some design for the amphitheater thank you vice mayor nice welcome i have councilmember turner thank you vice mayor i recall a few weeks ago the idea had been raised that perhaps the amphitheater might also qualify for funding bond funding through the economic development authorization that we have and i forget if we've heard back as to whether that's a possibility or not we might want to also get clarity regarding the cultural facility whether that needs to be a new cultural facility versus in essence what would be the rehabilitation or improvement of an existing cultural facility thank you councilman raul dahmer thank you vice mayor uh yeah so my assumption is that we've already had a conversation about city hall my assumption was that since we did that we're moving forward with the design so if that's not going to be three years from now then yeah it absolutely makes sense to move the amphitheater up now i absolutely agree my assumption was that uh we're having those conversations now so we can include it but yeah i agree move it up and and let's make uh the amphitheater part of downtown and that's going to be most likely depending on the design one of the attractions to bring people to downtown so yeah i absolutely agree my assumption was just that it was going to happen much sooner than two or three years for for the whole design so yeah thank you uh all all good comments anybody else mayor go ahead i support councilmember clark's idea of at least if we can put the funding for design no matter which way we go we're still going to need the design so i would be supportive of let's let's take a look you know fund the design piece of it and then we can figure out when when is the right time and what is the right funding source city manager mr vice mayor member of the council yeah thank you for the input we'll uh why don't you give staff an opportunity we'll we'll huddle up on this and look at it i think clearly i know the conversation kind of taking you back was if we are going to do a major remodel and if you are going to do an amphitheater make sure they're at least designed to interface well but how you sequence the construction and the remodeling of those is you know can be at a different timing level and i think you clearly since the amphitheater is outside with thoughtful design in theory you could accelerate the construction there so what we can do is we'll meet with facilities and and look at what a scope of work would be on a design team uh for that and we'll come back to you and and see if we can't accommodate what appears to be a request of the council thank you mr vice mayor i would like to address one of the questions that mr turner uh asked because we did check with bond council on that it does not have to be a new cultural facility per our bond council as long as it substantially changes something about the old facility and in this case the addition of perhaps back i'm going to call it backstage amenities was sufficient to to make it qualify for that bond mr vice mayor uh maybe i could have staff address councilman turner also asked about the use of economic development and i believe we do have an answer on that vice mayor members of the council we'll have to take a look at the use of economic development and get back to you on that mayor or vice mayor we didn't check on on that i didn't take that down as a question but we can do that now and we can check with them i don't think it will but certainly we can check with on council you have something else oh okay thank you good morning vice mayor members of the council so the list in front of you are the projects in the parks cip under these funding sources that we're discussing today the first one is the master plan update this is a carryover and uh we do anticipate this will be spent this fiscal year the soil ranch park improvement project is part of the fund balance projects that you were briefed on last week by mr melanie's as are the next seven projects all the way down to the swirl ranch painting park entrance painting all those projects you were updated on last week and are projects that are ongoing and a significant portion of each of these will be spent this year some of them will carry into the next year the uh we anticipate expending that money this fiscal year the uh foothills park pickleball courts was a diff project the project is in design in review right now we anticipate having it under construction before the end of the fiscal year and this is the current projected carryover balance this might change before the end of the cip process here and the final project here is the new river trail in zone two that is a project to do new signage along the new river trail system with that i'd be glad to answer any questions thank you any questions vice mayor councilmember turner um i was distracted for a moment so if i missed it forgive me um but on the saw ranch park entrance painting we had originally several weeks ago been talking about 57 000 but i believe last week we council agreed consensus was to bump it up to 75 000 because we thought we might be able to get all of it down in there and i know the main entryway is a priority and and should be and the 59th avenue side a lot of people see it but in reality if you go into the park into the parking lots and things like that you can see that there's plenty of that black fencing that's actually in worse condition than what's on our short list so i just want to confirm that we're looking at the 75 000. vice mayor members council yes that's correct that was the conversation last week thank you the next section of the presentation is on the airport capital improvement projects and with that i'll turn over the presentation to mr ebersole excuse me good morning okay the airport has uh two funding sources heavily the projects are heavily uh weighted on grants we leverage heavily on grants and we also use the transportation capital funding for these projects so the list of projects what we have coming up in fy 22 is the south apron phase one rehabilitation and this project is the first of two phases to rehabilitate the south apron it's about 38 000 square yards of asphalt and this this is anticipated to be complete in fy 22. the next project in 22 is the uh what's called the aywas this is the automated weather observing station and this received a large grant so it was bumped from 23 to 22 and or excuse me 22-21 so this project will be complete this year the next project is the taxiway paving pavement rehab and preservation and this project uh is uh additional work was added um to the project to include reorienting the uh taxiways alpha four and alpha six just basically changing the angles of the the alpha taxiways and providing a million overlay for the primary taxiway itself the next projects in uh 22 is parking rehab no so the airport parking rehab is um moving to a locally funded it's going to be cash funded uh presently this slide is showing faa grant but i'm i'll be talking about that here briefly it's changing to transportation sales tax east side development so the east side development study is to identify what type of infrastructure needs we have to make the the 75 to 100 acres of vacant land marketable on the east side of the airport and that's what this project is associated with and it's scheduled for fy22 the airside pavement maintenance that is the basically the same thing as the pavement management program for the streets the airport also has a pavement management program and that's what this project is associated with we intend to provide treatments to the aprons and taxiways in the means of crack sealing and slurry sealing that's what this is this is a perpetual program to present to preserve the asphalt council remember thomas thank you thank you vice mayor mr bursal so what are the funding sources for the south apron pavement reconstruction and the taxiway pavement rehab and preserve are they all part of our pavement management program or is it grant funded faa where does the money come from for that vice mayor and council i'm sorry i should have stated that that these are these are all uh heavily weighted with faa grant fundings so the um the i go past south apron so okay these are all all the all these projects are receiving 90 or more grant funding from the faa and then the local matches transportation sales tax and then one more question if i could the parking what is the difference between the two parking lots the auto parking rehabilitation is one project and then the airport auto parking lots is another project i'm just not sure what the difference is right vice mayor and council so the the first one the auto uh the auto parking rehab is was applied for federal grants from the faa but it's a low priority for the from the faa's perspective so we'll likely never see that grant but we had the opportunity to use that that grant money for the automated weather observing station in fy 21 so that's what we did we recognize that the faa identifies the land side there's the land side and then the air side the air side is the runway the land side is the vehicles the faa recognizes the land side parking lots as a very low priority so it's not likely that we'll receive grant funding for those so the second project the airport auto parking lots is a request to move that into transportation sales tax so that we can get the parking lots uh in a in a usable state right now they're they're falling apart and we have paying customers out there so we need to we need to address those parking lots with a pavement treatment so if i could i just want to make so you basically you broke the part you broke part of the project off because you thought you were going to receive grant funding right okay thank you okay the airport design standards this is a project that will be complete in fy 22 to design or identify plans for the buildings at the airports that don't have design standards these will identify the building materials and the colors it's not a component of the master plan but presently we don't have any guidance as to what materials or colors can be associated with the the buildings at the airport these do go through the design review um through our development services and ultimately these these buildings that are out there these hangers will after their their leases expired in typically a 40-year period they'll revert back to being owned by the city so we want to make sure that their their building standards are what we want and compliant with our policies so i just talked about the airport auto parking lots that will be designed the airport auto parking lots will be designed in fy 22 and then we'll actually conduct the work in fy23 and the airport matching funds is local match money to leverage grant opportunities for projects in fy 22 we're actually using the grant funding for or leveraging for the taxiway rehab preservation project and the east side development planning study and with that i'd be happy to answer any airport questions nice man nice mayor councilman the mask thank you sir uh mr episode the uh not specific to funding or anything just really want to know uh the state of the restaurant the last time i visited was prior to covet and we had a lease with someone so can you tell us is it still under the lease still operating and will that require any renovations to it and it's the restaurant vice mayor and council i brought carl newman our airport administrator to maybe he can help out with this question as well but currently we don't have an operator of the cafe there is interest and our we're going through a strategic plan at the airport right now to identify what the best use of that that particular facility will be the tenants of the airport do wish to have a cafe of some sort we've explored the options of having food trucks out there or having turning that that particular area into something other than a cafe the cafe is the desired operation from our customers position and getting a a viable and sustainable cafe operator in there is the challenge and i'm not sure if you can elaborate more on that carl good morning council members vice mayor mr mr ebazold is correct the uh the restaurant is currently unoccupied and it's a little bit of a challenge at this point in time to uh find someone especially with the advent of covet we've had a number of operators potential operators show up uh only to determine at you know as they've gone through this process that now is not the right time so we want to get covert behind us and i think we will have some success at that point in time once cobit is behind us thank you vice mayor if i may uh continue thank you both of you for for that brief update um here's what i'm thinking so the far west valley is is building out quite significantly just city glendale alone but the west far west valley is significantly building out with some really good promoting and marketing of that i'm sure we can fill it but what i'm thinking is we have a lot of culinary programs within our schools and within colleges good opportunity to partner with a college or with a high school culinary program i know raymond s kalis has a significant program post covered whenever that is maybe that's something that the the city can look into in partnership if we can't find somebody to lease it maybe we start working with with some educational organizations that can operate it but thank you for that that brief update i was just wondering where we were with it thank you vice mayor yes go ahead i i think that when we do successfully acquire an operator for the cafe one of the major issues that has got to be resolved is signage on glendale avenue uh so that people are aware that there is a restaurant in our airport that's part of enemy an ongoing problem is that there has never been adequate signage for who whomever the operator wasn't there so i hope you will take that into consideration and if additional funding is required you can find enough money to to put some significant signage for a cafe up thank you anyone else vice mayor councilmember turner i i'm excited i've been some great out of the box thinking here with the food truck concept and with the culinary west mecca is out there as well almost literally at the airport so i have a feeling this is maybe where we'll find the answer for what we need out there but as long as we have the administrator here i wanted to ask the question too in this day and age is a restaurant at a local airport like this considered a nicety or a necessity thank you very much vice mayor and councilman turner it is not an absolute necessity but it is certainly one of the items that draw people pilots to airports as they as they move along consider if you will you're flying across country california to texas and you have a stop to make one of the things that you're going to take into consideration is the opportunity to get food as well as fuel as you move along and so while it is not an absolute necessity it is very helpful in terms of the operation of the airport and as has been mentioned the folks that are there day in and day out really can use a place where they can go and get a decent meal probably several times a week so thank you sir thank you thank you thank you carl the next item on the presentation are the streets capital improvement projects and mr ebersole will continue on with his presentation thank you lizette okay our streets capital this uh seen on this slide here that we have several funding sources associated with our streets capital projects we have the general fund which that particular item is associated with the cares grant that we received which that money will be it's in process right now being put into our pavement management program so that that will be expired or exhausted by the end of fy21 and we also have our herf and transportation sales tax operations and capital funding sources and we also have our development impact fee or diff funding sources running through these projects our pavement management we you're very well versed on we've touched on that this is associated with that 2.3 million dollars of cares money uh that was shown on line one uh that will be exhausted but what we are requesting here is an additional two million dollars to be applied to the pavement management program for fy22 we received a credit from our city of phoenix fixed route bus contract at two million dollars so that relieved two million dollars of transportation sales tax uh funding that we would like to apply towards the pavement management program for fy22 next project is our ballpark boulevard this is a development impact fee project where this is this is phase two and we anticipate this to be complete in fy 22. this is largely dependent upon the bureau of reclamation and the roosevelt irrigation district there's a lot of coordination that's occurring with this project so if all goes well that project will be complete in fy 22. the next project is our capital bridge repair program the city of glendale has about 43 bridges city-wide and this program provides annual funding in the amount of 250 000 to make the necessary repairs and perform maintenance items to those bridges we can do about three bridges per year based on the list of repairs that we have presently and they're all uh low risk type of repairs nice mayor go ahead council member how many bridges do we have in glendale we can't have that many vice mayor and council members we have about 43 i actually think it is 43 bridges all right thank you the next project is the flash and yellow arrows you're you're all well versed in the flash and yellow arrow indications throughout the city uh this program is uh or this project is uh heavily funded uh federally funded we're getting about a a little over two million dollars from the as a federal grant for this project and this is in this is to install the flashing yellows at 21 locations city wide and that project will be complete in fy 22. the next project is our vehicle replacement program this is funded from both herf and transportation sales tax we have a list transportation has about 77 vehicles that we need to provide our vehicle replacement for this program takes care of that or programs those vehicle replacements earlier on you heard about uh some of the police vehicles what we're experiencing with the transportation vehicles is some of the manufacturers are having difficulties procuring componentry such as the computer brains that run the cars so there's a backlog of ordering these vehicles the next project is our our bike projects match fund this money is used to fund projects bicycle and pedestrian projects city-wide we have i'll be talking about it here briefly but we have a couple of projects that are coming up in fy22 63rd and at 63rd avenue in northern is going to be receiving a new traffic signal it met safety warrants so we received grant funding to put in a new traffic signal at 63rd avenue in northern that project will be completed by the end of fy 21. northern parkway cable barrier is the next project that project is another safety project that we received nearly a million dollars of grant funding for so that's providing two and a half miles of cable in the median along northern parkway and that project will be complete by fy21 the next project is 75th avenue and aspara improvements excuse me this project is in large part due to the all the development on the uh where the on the northwest corner of 75th avenue and aspara and we are providing some striping on 75th avenue to extend left turn lanes and put in some additional signage and this project is also on track to be completed by the end of fy 21. the next project is the central core sidewalk gaps this is a transportation sales tax funded project and this project is to fill in the areas of missing sidewalks such as in front of schools and businesses or high traffic areas this project is on track to or will be complete by fy21 or excuse me 22 and then we have another set of projects in fy 24 for this vice mayor go ahead council member thank you sir mr ebersole what are the boundaries of the quote central core vice mayor and council member turner can you repeat that question please uh for the central core sidewalk gaps project what are the boundaries of the central core so the boundaries of the central corridor on the north 46th avenue on the east bethany home road to the south and grand avenue to the west almost thank you the next project is 67th avenue bike lanes this project will be complete in fy 22 and this is leveraging grant dollars this project is to install bike lanes along 67th avenue between on both sides between missouri and choya primarily consists of striping but it does have some curb relocations closer to the intersections this is a great project because we are leveraging um grant dollars to provide some pavement management treatments along that corridor we're blitting the striping which is going to scar the asphalt so we're able to put down some pavement treatments the next project is 67th avenue and thunderbird this is a development impact fee project and this project we're working very closely with the city of peoria on so this project is going to be pushed out we aren't sure what year what year but we're trying to match what the city of peoria is going to put into their cip because it's in large part beneficial to peoria the pavement cut repair project is an ongoing project this is a program that was developed to repair damaged street segments from various utility projects so the utility company will seek a work permit from us in advance of the repairs and then the funding request will come as we or additional funding requests will come as we gain experience but basically when a contractor comes in and they they cut up our our roads uh we go in and uh make a repair on the road and they'll reimburse us the next project is the pedestrian led conversion this program includes this is an fy 22 and this program includes the replacement of luminaires on approximately 830 pedestrian lights in the downtown area this project will save us on electrical costs it'll also reduce our maintenance activities it also addresses the aesthetics of the street lights and this is also a dark skies compliant project the next project is our transportation safety program so this is an ongoing program and this program addresses citywide safety concerns such as hawk beacons and replacing of signal poles and bridge crash barriers council member clark thank you vice mayor what is the cost of one hawk vice mayor and council members the cost of one hawk is approaching three hundred thousand dollars okay and that's for information thank you the next project is a development impact fee or diff project it's 89th avenue connecting from ocotillo to glendale currently that there's a gap in that roadway so fy 22 we're going to design the the roadway segment and then request construction in 23. it's a missing it's a missing road this will serve the residents in the area it'll provide them an alternate access to the neighborhood this is part of our master plan and this will really help during event days for those residents that live in that area 57th and greenway is the next project this is also a diff project or development impact fee project this project is the city's portion a one-third portion required per agreement towards the traffic signal that serves the village at thunderbird so 57th avenue in greenway the next project is 59th avenue and northern this is also a development impact fee project this project is to construct a southbound right turn lane onto northern avenue it's scheduled for fy22 design and fy23 construction the next project is our its upgrades this is an ongoing matching program that leverages a lot of grants a lot of grant funding and this in fy 22 we're going to be receiving 59th avenue vehicle detection glendale avenue vehicle detection in partnership with the city of phoenix and we're also going to be receiving fiber optic cabling along 99th avenue from camelback road to to cardinals way the next project is our bus pullouts [Music] so this is an ongoing item to design and improve bus pull out city-wide the next project is councilmember turner who asked the question that was asked before what typically does a bus pull out project cost vice mayor and council typically the bus pullout would cost about 120 to 120 000 depending on complexity so we're looking at doing one next fiscal year and a couple for the ones a couple of year each year following until we get down to yep for the next five years or so thank you vice mayor and council so it's design in fy 22 and then an ongoing design and construction every year thereafter vice mayor ryan if if i would i would just like to comment on this um if i remember correctly we've got like 358 bus pull out locations maybe it's 400 around there but i know it's pretty high and out of those i think there were like 80 that were fully implemented bus pullouts and the rest are in various stages of incompletion my only comment would be is i think this program is woefully underfunded that at a minimum every bus pullout should have some kind of shade a bench to sit on and a waste paper receptacle and what most people don't realize is there are a lot of locations that don't have any of those three so um i would appreciate it if if staff could figure out a way to to dedicate additional funding to the annual bus pullout program until we have more compatible bus stops if we're really going to try to encourage people to use mass transit then you have to make it so that it's at least halfway comfortable to do so thank you vice mayor you're welcome thank you vice mayor and council i think you'll be pleased council member clark i think you'll be pleased with the one of my final slides oh good okay the next project is the northern parkway this is an ongoing project where we have a 670 thousand dollar obligation to put applied towards the project the city of glendale has a 38 million dollar total uh investment in the in the project and we have five more years to pay on our our share of the project the next project is the new river multi-use pathway this is this project is actually complete but we have the funding shown in fy 22 because it's pending potential settlement costs so we don't anticipate the settlement cost to be this high but we just don't know so we have to preserve the funding the next project is the sidewalking curb improvements excuse me this project is actually complete so this funding is not needed in fy 22. the next project that's shown is also complete it's the cardinals way 83rd avenue to 91st avenue the funding is not needed in fy22 the next project is the infield lighting program excuse me this project includes 85 street lights for fy21 that received a 1.1 million dollar appropriation the project designed for those locations was started in fy20 we're working with aps and srp so we're we're kind of at the mercy of the utility companies timing but we anticipate going into construction with these in fy 22 and beyond vice mayor council member aldome thank you vice mayor mr abersol in reading the project description it reads as if it needs to be initiated by the resident or staff these lights here that you have identified have they already been identified by someone and you're going to go out and then there's probably others that may be identified outside of this project vice mayor and council yes they've been identified already by residents and we have an ongoing list of these locations thank you sir thank you vice mayor welcome vice mayor councilmember turner how about a resident or the residence representative go about uh getting new ida new uh locations on the list vice mayor and council members they could do it they could submit their request via glendale one or make a phone call to the transportation department at two nine 623-930-2940 zero i like how he has that memorized um thank you addition a question along the same lines we recently went to led lights throughout the city and is it possible to have rather than a whole new pole put in to have a different head or a head adjusted to increase street lighting and would they use the same glendale one to put in a request for that vice president council yes they can use the same poll generally generally the the actual luminaire is approximately 2 400 so they can go through the glendale one or contact transportation direct what was that number again never mind thank you next project is the streetlight pole program so we've identified city-wide there's about 18 000 poles that needed inspection they for rust and structural integrity we identified that 300 of about 300 of those polls needed to be replaced and we anticipate completing that project in fy 21. the ongoing money annually is to keep up on that program to ensure that all the street light poles are structurally sound that concludes the streets portion of the presentation i'd be happy to answer any questions vice mayor councilmember clark not a question but a comment for many years we had a scallop street program which we no longer have i would like council to consider reinstating that program it may be too late to allocate funding for it this fiscal year but certainly in the coming fiscal year i consider scallop streets to be really a safety hazard for vehicular and pedestrian traffic and these are streets where where you travel along and maybe they've got two lanes and all of a sudden it's one lane and you'll go a couple hundred feet and it's back to two lanes again um it's very confusing for the motorist it's dangerous for the pedestrian and i know it's an expensive program but at some point we're going to have to deal with our scallop street issue because these are usually scalloped streets or unimproved portions of streets are usually in front of structures or homes that have been in glendale for 50 years and it is obvious that those people are going to remain in their homes or their businesses and will not be leaving and are do not have the funding and would we ask them for the funding to improve the street in front of their properties so i would ask this council to consider the reinstatement of the scallop street program not for this fiscal year but for the next fiscal year's budget thank you vice mayor welcome vice mayor members of the council i would like to point out that on page 240 of your cip there is a scallop street program project it is funded by general in addition to it being a safety issue it makes the neighborhood look unfinished and and we're going to have to address scalp streets at some point and i know that we had a previous scallop street impr program so i'm just asking that we consider reinstating the program next fiscal year thank you the last section of the presentation is the transit capital improvement projects actually be completed this year so this funding won't be needed in fy 22. uh vice mayor councilmember clark i get an explanation of what this project refers to vice president council members 10 stops were improved to include the ada accessibility the locations were identified to be ada compliant and [Music] i'm not sure what more information you're looking for but we do have a bus stop uh project coming up that addresses ongoing needs that's that's what i'm waiting for thank you the next project is the glendale north excuse me north glendale park and ride project this project is to secure a location for a north glendale park and ride the dream city church is located on the southwest corner of rose garden and 75th avenue as a potential site the church is under new management who's interested in discussing the project presently we're using the foothills recreation and aquatic center as a park and ride it's working so this project is to help construct a new or designated and permanent north glendale park and ride the next project is the bus stop enhancement project this is an ongoing program to address bus stop location excuse me bus stop locations to provide them with amenities such as benches shade trash cans concrete pads to to improve their their overall aesthetics and comfort councilman required with that amount of money and i know it varies because some some bus stop pullouts need more enhancement than others but on average what is the cost to do one bus stop enhancement vice mayor and council one complete not including the bus pull out just the amenities the the shelter bench trash can and the concrete pad is about twenty five thousand dollars all right thank you and the final project in the transit component is the transportation program engineering consultant transportation uses this professional engineering services to help with design of our safety design and analysis for future transportation projects this is a an ongoing need for the transportation department with that i'd be happy to answer any questions any questions council members vice mayor the north glendale park and ride project um i know that there's been some different scenarios about how we're going to accomplish that one of them being a lease so how would that work with just basically one-time funding vice versa that conversation is old and i don't we aren't aware that that's a that's not a current conversation anymore because the church is under new management where it may be viable that the foothills recreation aquatic center is a good location we also have the arrowhead town center as a park and ride so the dream city church would work well but we're still negotiating with the management of that facility okay so we would make those changes later if that that was that was we were able to come to terms i mean i know that's it's been ongoing for a long time the it's already uh foothills is already being used isn't it yes okay thank you very much councilmember turner if frack and arrowhead are serving the needs and could continue to do so do we need to do another parking right up there vice mayor and members of council that's [Music] certainly worth exploring council member thomas thank you because where the bmw dealership is is where the park and ride i do hear from residents in the area who were looking forward to having the park and ride there i mean i absolutely agree we did the right thing by selling the land of bmw but there are residents who i mean it was part of our plan was to put a parking right there at one time so if we're not able to accomplish it at a you know reasonable amount of money then then we don't but i think we're still trying to explore doing what we said we were going to do right yes okay vice mayor yes else remember not i'm not attempting to be contentious i'm just um and i think we perhaps have chatted about this in the past that the previous uh potential location over where the bmw car dealership has gone in and even the 75th avenue north of the 101 location um it seems to be more likely to be serving residents from outside the city than inside the city given the flows of traffic and if we could have a location utilizing existing city resources that well serves our residents which is our priority then i would you know i'm not saying i'm not going to support something i'm just saying you know what i'd like to support the most is a location that does that and serves logically serves as many of our residents that would be headed into phoenix where they wouldn't have to go backwards away from phoenix to get to the parking rate that's all thank you welcome mayor if i could respond to that one of the issues with the site at frack is the proximity to a freeway i think the idea of park and rides is there you know ideally they're they're in close proximity to a freeway because they're expressed routes um and that's what that would be basically that would just serve express routes so if you know if you're 15 20 minutes away from the freeway at the park and ride it they're less likely to be used because they they take they don't save all that much time for people so um i think that's one of the reasons is to try to keep it close to the freeway which was our original intent um frack's not really all that close to a freeway you either got to go up 59th avenue which is very busy or over to i-17 down union hills which is also very busy so um and then what was the other one the mall you know different times of the year the mall carries a lot of traffic in and out of the mall so that's it's in close proximity to the freeway but it still takes several minutes to get to the freeway from there because of all the traffic in the area so um i i'm with you i mean i don't want to spend the money if it's not going to serve the needs of our residents but there are some issues with residents using the because it of the not being in close proximity to a freeway which is ideal for a park and ride councilman valdomi thank you vice mayor um two questions here if staff could if if you have that now i like to have it if you don't email it to me how many park and rides and where the locations do you know that to answer that question within glendale yes in glendale only uh i'm going to have to get that that's okay not a problem um and then secondly i think i'm comfortable knowing the reason but can you explain why the city of glendale has invested in park and rides what is the purpose of a park and ride vice mayor and council members the purpose is to promote carpooling and reducing overall congestion and vehicle emissions so it reduces our our our footprint right boxes in the air i just wanted to know for what reason we have them so could could you follow up with me and maybe the rest of the country like them from it i just like know where they are and how many we have please thank you your hand council member uh in response to that i believe we have two the one up north that's at frack and the one at glendale and 99th just off the freeway i will tell you the parking lot on the one on glendale 99th is always full so they're utilizing it for whatever reason but as far as i know those are the only two that we've got in glendale thank you vice mayor members of the council our next presentation will be on march 16th that will be our fourth workshop on capital improvement plan and then the last budget workshop on the cip is on march 30th and after that we'll compile all the changes in the council consensus and we'll provide the updated cip to city council on monday april 12th and with that that concludes our presentation thank you council members you have any questions or comments saying then know their business would the meeting is adjourned you